SWINGIEST SPACE MARINE UNIT?! Math teacher explores the eradicators

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  • @moparjockle2542
    @moparjockle2542 22 дні тому +44

    Guy behind the cam is like cave man hearing of math for the first time and I love it cause it’s my reaction too

    • @HenryOddy-Propsting
      @HenryOddy-Propsting 18 днів тому +2

      It really makes the video! Takes it from dry maths to edutainment

  • @daynoart
    @daynoart 27 днів тому +40

    Dude, I want to see what the Vindicator can do! Can we do that next?

    • @christiangallus
      @christiangallus 22 дні тому +6

      But the csm One. In the pactbound detachment 😀
      Damage Range: -3 to 108

    • @foxenstinevon.gaming12
      @foxenstinevon.gaming12 22 дні тому +2

      I really want to see chaos vindicator on a spread like they have, it’s such a silly unit

    • @isaacshipley858
      @isaacshipley858 20 днів тому +1

      I ran 3 nurgle vindicators vs my buddy's armored guard list and they were incredibly good. We both deployed on the line hoping for spicy first turns and I managed to wipe 1000 pts of leman russe's, chimeras and dorns because I got first turn

  • @KyllanMan
    @KyllanMan 22 дні тому +10

    This is exactly the Warhammer content i have been looking for

    • @KyllanMan
      @KyllanMan 22 дні тому +2

      I would like to know how best to use the classic space marine Devestators against enemy vehicles, my 3 lascannons and 1 rocket launcher have been seemingly ineffective

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  22 дні тому +1

      Interesting. I like the idea of

  • @jules9094
    @jules9094 26 днів тому +19

    How do you guys only have 7 subs? You got me, great vid. Keep it up. Be interesting if you added a biologis in to the equations how much that improves them

  • @Grimmlocked
    @Grimmlocked 25 днів тому +46

    tell your cohost to throw back one or two less beers XD
    great video

    • @nickontheinternet
      @nickontheinternet 23 дні тому +6

      i think you just told him xD glad for the feedback @grimmlocked. you rule

    • @KyllanMan
      @KyllanMan 22 дні тому +6

      I'd say give him 2 more beers

  • @usssztorm1410
    @usssztorm1410 26 днів тому +14

    Looks like a start of an awesome new channel

  • @simeonbradstock4214
    @simeonbradstock4214 19 днів тому +3

    Really enjoying your channel, i fully expect it to blow up with the high quality content and theres so much you can do. Thanks for the good videos especially maling maths interesting

  • @richardmartin6069
    @richardmartin6069 22 дні тому +2

    Just discovered, and yet this may be my favorite warhammer content creator. Data like this keeps me hooked

  • @BadmanOfBanterbury
    @BadmanOfBanterbury 23 дні тому +9

    This is the nature of any unit with a low shot count, but potentially high damage. They're always going to be swingy. The only time you get a nice clean standard distribution curve, like you describe early on in the video, is with units that have a large quantity of shots, with small but consistent damage.
    This is why I run 6 man.

  • @ryanandreason6530
    @ryanandreason6530 22 дні тому +2

    As a fellow math teacher, this is really rad stuff. Thanks for showing the world how fun math can be!

  • @chaptermasterkathal
    @chaptermasterkathal 26 днів тому +6

    Awesome quality content for such a small channel :) Happy to have found ya

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  26 днів тому +1

      Thank you, we're working hard to figure some stuff out and what people would like to see.

  • @garethnichols3555
    @garethnichols3555 25 днів тому +3

    Awesome breakdown, great presentation. Can't wait to see more.

  • @bighanku
    @bighanku 25 днів тому +2

    Blessings of the Omnissiah to the servitor crunching the numbers in the background- also Blake’s stash is giving bell curve. Can’t wait for the next ep lads!!

  • @talgero981
    @talgero981 25 днів тому +3

    I love a data-driven reason to swing for the fences. Great analysis - can’t wait to see more unit breakdowns!

  • @pastorkris
    @pastorkris 25 днів тому +1

    That was great fun to watch! Waiting for more insight like this, as I love to listen about probability in games :)

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  25 днів тому

      I really see 40k as a game about probabilities, its one of the reasons I love it so much.

  • @Kattbirb
    @Kattbirb 22 дні тому +6

    Take heart, dear co-host, the Avatar of Khaine used to be completely immune to flamers and melta back in my day. Three wounds is a *huge* improvement.

    • @cyclone8974
      @cyclone8974 22 дні тому +1

      It makes sense that it would be immune to flame though.

    • @Kattbirb
      @Kattbirb 22 дні тому

      @cyclone8974 It really does. I'm kind of sad to see Molten Body get nerfed.
      I never begrudged that even as a Sisters of Battle player. It just took some lucky bolter rolls and/or some exorcist missiles.

    • @cyclone8974
      @cyclone8974 22 дні тому

      @@Kattbirb Kinda glad the Avatar just halves damage though. I was always way to easy to kill from what I've heard.

  • @froghugger41
    @froghugger41 21 день тому

    Excellent channel concept! Looking forward to seeing more uploads from you

  • @HeavyMetalHobbyist
    @HeavyMetalHobbyist 9 днів тому

    This is the content we need! You gotta do an episode on the C'tan shard man. That thing is a menace!

  • @lucasharsh1396
    @lucasharsh1396 23 дні тому

    This channel concept is great and I expect you guys to go far!

  • @Questioningbasics
    @Questioningbasics 23 дні тому +1

    NGL I thought this was Auspex Tactics from the thumbnail.
    Useful and informative video though, earned a sub.

  • @deifiedtitan
    @deifiedtitan 16 днів тому

    Love the channel, exactly the kind of content I want to see for WH. Humbly requesting Eldar coverage, and that the cohost dials it back a smidge. All aboard having a hype-man, just don’t need it on every line as it takes away from the content a bit.
    Good luck with the vids, looking forward to seeing more

  • @Daft3Joe
    @Daft3Joe 26 днів тому +1

    This the best production of Warhammer content on the TUBE!! I want moorrreeee❤

  • @pqzm0
    @pqzm0 24 дні тому

    Glad I found this channel. Keep it up guys! I was just thinking about this since I'm looking at getting some eradicators myself.

  • @mhicks31
    @mhicks31 21 день тому

    I love this video and the format. subscribed!

  • @JLRowket
    @JLRowket 21 день тому

    Very cool video! I’m really looking forward to more of these.

  • @mojorn8837
    @mojorn8837 23 дні тому

    Love to see a channel like this one breaking down the probability behind the units. I’m just over a month into collecting and painting, but I’m coming from D&D where there’s tons of DPR charts and discussion from min/maxers and optimizers. It seems like rather than just embracing the meta of what is performing well right now in tournaments, there should be more discussion of what has the best average outcome against the main threats on the tabletop. Charts like this can really tell the story of how risky it is to set your weapons to hazardous or to try and risk that charge, a skill that some people have developed instincts for, but many haven’t.

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  22 дні тому +1

      I’ve been toying with the idea of creating a “cheat sheet” of sorts … but it’s hard to know exactly what would be useful to most players though rather than just going unit by unit. I want to experiment with some of this on the channel once we get a little more established and I can get some broader feedback.

  • @decker080
    @decker080 25 днів тому

    Awesome content, great production value. Keep up the good work!

  • @BurningNeyko
    @BurningNeyko 20 днів тому

    This was an eye-opener. Amazing analysis and discussion.

  • @jakesetzer8377
    @jakesetzer8377 23 дні тому

    Good luck with the new channel! Just seeing the math can be a little bland, but having someone read through and competently explain distribution makes understanding why my dice hate me much easier! Also as a filthy Drukhari player, I’d like to request a video on our best bird bois, the Scourge squad. There’s plenty of weapon options to chew through with them!

  • @AdamSinnott
    @AdamSinnott 22 дні тому

    Great energy with the two of you. Would love to see you both interacting. It would also be great to see a video of how you did those simulations.

  • @goldjaw
    @goldjaw 20 днів тому

    I love hearing math teachers talk about statistics and probability.
    I love Warhammer and the MathHammer involved.
    This channel was made for me.

  • @szdmaf
    @szdmaf 24 дні тому

    Very cool concept for a channel. Look forward to seeing you do other species n such

  • @RunesonRPG
    @RunesonRPG 25 днів тому +1

    Just subbed! Can’t wait to see more statistics breakdowns! It would be cool to see a video on Armor of Contempt. Another cool video would be on whether you get more value out of Oath of Moment from big tank guns or tons of little infantry hits.

  • @oninada
    @oninada 23 дні тому

    This was really cool to watch! More please.

  • @CoosaKraken
    @CoosaKraken 25 днів тому +1

    sometimes youtube blesses us with gems of videos i was considering eradicators to and now imma jus get more terminators

  • @fatmaru
    @fatmaru 23 дні тому

    Super useful video. Looking forward to see what else you do!

  • @ASBOmarc
    @ASBOmarc 23 дні тому +2

    Squad of 6 Add a biologis and fire disciple, with the +1 ap and ignores cover strat make sure they are in devastator doctrine and profit. On average dice they can stand a good chance of nuking every vehicle or monster. Use them from rapid ingress specifically to kill something I don’t like. Also because of the full re-rolls they stand a good chance of getting a light vehicle (up to a wardog) on Overwatch

  • @SealableBags
    @SealableBags 23 дні тому

    Would love to see something similar for hellblasters accounting for things like their likelihood of dying due to overcharging and maybe differences based on character buffs that can be added to the squad (offensive and/or survivability), cool channel!

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  23 дні тому

      I think this is going to have to be a video soon. Great idea.

  • @Ogresh
    @Ogresh 24 дні тому +1

    I'd love to see some hellblasters math that takes into account the hazardous chance + shoots on death + potential buffs from characters and detachements! Love to see how they stack up against the performance of the eradicators (same targets)! 😊

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  23 дні тому +1

      Another unit I’m really curious about. I don’t have any, but I’ve been considering them for a while. Maybe it’s time to do a deep dive.

  • @lohikaarmeherra-1753
    @lohikaarmeherra-1753 25 днів тому

    I love this video so much, great job!

  • @evgenymarchenko8473
    @evgenymarchenko8473 21 день тому

    Great video and visualisation!
    Just a note, Avatar of Khaine math is incorrect as damage (D6 roll) is first halved (rounding up), then increased by melta rule. I.e., damage is from [3,3,4,4,5,5] distribution.

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  21 день тому +1

      Don’t know this when I made the video. Already updated for the next one though. Thanks for the heads up. Clearly I need them.

  • @proactive_studio
    @proactive_studio 20 днів тому +1

    I NEED this in excel spreadsheet format!

  • @noahfeldman3377
    @noahfeldman3377 22 дні тому

    So don’t use them against anything with an invuln… interesting
    Great stuff, keep up the good work! I’m always interested in this really nerdy part of a nerdy hobby lol. Would love to see stuff like a lancer or even my favorite fire strike servo turrets

  • @Lomp_64
    @Lomp_64 26 днів тому +3

    You need to include the lethal hits from the Biologus and potentially the sustained 1/critical hit on 5’s from Fire Discipline to get a true scope of the top end damage eradicators are capable of.
    That dramatically bumps damage up combined with the re-rolls from the data sheet ability they have.

    • @jackregan3366
      @jackregan3366 25 днів тому

      I'd love to see this taken into account too. First for 6 eradicators, then with the biologis, then with fire discipline

    • @nickontheinternet
      @nickontheinternet 25 днів тому +1

      that's a really good point. these kinds of comments are *really helpful* in shaping the future of the channel. a salute to you for your service @Lomp_64 your suggestion will be taken into account for future episodes!

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  23 дні тому +1

      I super appreciate the suggestion, totally missed this possibility because I never use it as a blood angels player. I think I’m gonna have to make a shorter video addressing this for sure.

    • @Lomp_64
      @Lomp_64 23 дні тому

      @@nickontheinternet Lots of units really jump in damage potential through effective combos with leaders, enhancements and some stratagems.
      That would be a cool way to show the impact by comparing the damage curve/kill probability as you add layers. Especially things like re-rolls. The actual math impact of re-rolls is interesting and when to re-roll everything but critical hits and when not to.

  • @TheSeanJones
    @TheSeanJones 23 дні тому

    NGL, this has made me rethink my reliance on Eradicators. Too many times I’ve been let down. Thanks for an informative, fun, video.

  • @firedrake110
    @firedrake110 18 днів тому

    The Long Fangs Space Wolf unit is also full of casino cannons, but it's glorious fire support for their gnarly shock troops. They get the much more frightening options of Grav Cannons, Lascannons, Missile Launchers, Heavy Flamers, or the Multi-Melta's that Eradicators prefer. They're also notably cheaper to field 6 models, being 145 vs. 200. I've been telling people about how nasty they are for quite some time, but people just love cavalry in that chapter and won't open their ears XD

  • @DarkAzure00
    @DarkAzure00 14 днів тому

    As a data scientist who is into warhammer this is the content I need :3

  • @MattDer-ff2us
    @MattDer-ff2us 23 дні тому +1

    Eradicators costed for the fire discipline combo. That combo makes these guys reliable. The spread of damage would still be huge but the minimum damage levels are high enough that they are effectively reliable.

  • @meekotreeko
    @meekotreeko 18 днів тому +1

    Just found the channel and love the content! What happened to the video color profile after the intro? it looks like a log profile didn't get added or Color correction didn't export...

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  18 днів тому

      lol, actually it was my first time doing a video like this and I had the lights turned up waaaaay too high. I tried soo hard to fix it, but that was the best I could do :) I feel like I’ve learned a lot since then already. Thank you so much for the support.

  • @oinked
    @oinked 20 днів тому

    Simultaneously the scariest and least scary unit in the SM arsenal.
    It's like the Guard Vanquisher...
    A lot of the time not much happens... But every so often something goes supernova. And the thing is that people need to respect that anything at any time could go supernova!!!

  • @VulkanGrills
    @VulkanGrills 25 днів тому +2

    Very well done distribution charts! They're the one thing I'm always too lazy to lay out and it really does show the quartiles well. You should consider doing a video on the benefits of rerolls and when to farm for dev/lethal/sustained. Very interesting results. Often it's not worth it to farm, in my findings.

    • @nickontheinternet
      @nickontheinternet 25 днів тому

      excellent points, thanks for the feedback @vulkangrills

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  23 дні тому

      I have definitely found that a lot of people go fishing when they shouldn’t. Definitely a topic I will be covering.

  • @Colin-e2w
    @Colin-e2w 26 днів тому

    Awesome analysis! Looking at how modifiers like CP re-rolls and individual hit/wound/damage re-rolls impact the spread would be a great video. There's the rules of thumb, like "attacks and damage rolls are the best return" but looking at how a you can do things like moving the lower quartiles with a hit re-roll would be really cool.

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  23 дні тому

      I love this idea. I want to do a video on rerolls and fishing specifically. I’m a little afraid to be too mathy in the videos but ima do some experimenting. I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about this

  • @Jason-wh7in
    @Jason-wh7in 24 дні тому +3

    Stand alone they are unreliable, you need to attach the biologis to get the lethal hits. Adding fire discipline gives them so much more with extra wound rolls etc. hitting on 4’s sucks on the multi melta but if you are in gladius, getting the FD to proper activate in dev doctrine and then using storm of fire, you’re criting those hits on 5’s and getting ap-5. Into invulns it’s not as great l, but 2+ save units don’t get a save.

  • @jackkosidowski8794
    @jackkosidowski8794 20 днів тому

    Sustained and lethal shots from a fire discipline Biologis make them reliable enough that it feels they zap pretty much anything off the board.

  • @fergin4979
    @fergin4979 12 днів тому

    That shirt is amazing and you’re rocking it

  • @Orzine
    @Orzine 17 днів тому

    This channel is great, can you do the deathwatch kill teams? I say teams because it can be built into several team comps, the most popular being assault, range, and both 10 man (better for leaders) and 5 man hammer (gets an extra phaseblade and pistol/shield among 2 units of 5).

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  17 днів тому

      I’ll have to look into that. Lore wise I have always been a fan of deathwatch… but I’ve literally never faced any.

  • @GoalOrientedLifting
    @GoalOrientedLifting 22 дні тому

    Finally a channel with some science

  • @Andreas67335
    @Andreas67335 23 дні тому +1

    Could you do a dark Angel hellblaster squad? If possible can you include lethal/sustained hits to that?

  • @offspring118
    @offspring118 22 дні тому

    That was sick, please more math

  • @carlosjqable
    @carlosjqable 26 днів тому +2

    great video bro, im expecting more

  • @DamagePlanXII
    @DamagePlanXII 24 дні тому

    Easy sub thanks guys. Please keep blasting out different unit content

  • @historically_bad2787
    @historically_bad2787 18 днів тому

    Perfect content and I want more

  • @gregorypack3003
    @gregorypack3003 12 днів тому

    Can we get an analysis of the Firestorm Assault Force strategem "immolation protocols" and the best units to utilize it. The 10 man squad of infernus vs the 5, vs ... some other flamer heavy unit🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @TravelingAnvil
    @TravelingAnvil 22 дні тому

    Visualizing invulnerable saves like this just blew my mind. Id love to see hellblasters. I wonder how the whacky shoot on death would show up.

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  21 день тому +1

      I have been considering hellblasters for a while. The shoot on death mechanic should result in about 11% (1/6*2/3) more shots than you started with on average. I think they should be pretty reliable. Enough people have asked that I think this is on my short list.

  • @elgurkus6885
    @elgurkus6885 17 днів тому

    This is really fun and informative. Keep it up!
    Edit: Some questions I have about the simulations you did:
    - Did you factor in any common buffs, like Oath of Moment? I feel like whatever you're shooting with eradicators will more often than not be your Oath-target.
    - How did you decide to reroll the damage? Since there is no "succesful" result, this is always the thing I struggle with. I usually reroll 1s and 2s, but what did you do?

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  17 днів тому

      Since they re-roll hits against monsters and vehicles I didn’t really have to worry about OOM. For the damage I was going for maximum possible output so I rerolled 1,2,3’s. This doesn’t account for those edge cases where you might hold onto a 2 or 3 on a final damage roll to reach some critical value…. But I felt it made the most sense.

  • @Max_Haus
    @Max_Haus 25 днів тому +1

    shout out to the youtube recommended feed for sending me here

  • @PomaiKajiyama
    @PomaiKajiyama 23 дні тому +1

    How does oath or other reroll mechanics affect the swingyness of a unit? I assume it makes less swingy but how much?

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  22 дні тому

      I’m definitely doing a vid on rerolls and fishing at some point!

  • @Grimmlocked
    @Grimmlocked 25 днів тому

    wait is this why my opponents terminators are so much more vulnerable to my havoc autocannons then my raptor metalguns?

  • @masterch33fII7
    @masterch33fII7 22 дні тому

    Would a charging aggressor squad or las fusil eliminators be more reliable? Lower damage potential sure, but less swingy? I don’t play the game much, but this was a fun to watch!

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  22 дні тому

      Def more reliability with the aggressors. Fewer shots almost always results in more swings. Sure do love the eliminators though, great for some plink damage.

  • @the-bzs
    @the-bzs 20 днів тому

    Great video, i was genuinely surprised that your channel is small, because the quality is great. Would like to see similar video for Morkanaut!
    What program do you use to simulate dice rolling?

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  19 днів тому

      I’ve been writing my own program. Still a work in progress. Ork will get a video in short order.

  • @christopherherdman153
    @christopherherdman153 17 днів тому

    I'm just starting out Horus Heresy with a 30K Emperor's Children army. I played constantly as a teen (former Eldar player) but have had to be an adult since. Now my son is of an age that he's into 40K. Any Slaneshi content welcome.

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  17 днів тому

      Loooove Slanesh. Yeah, I have quite a few friends who had to put it down and are just getting back into as their kids are aging in. It’s pretty sweet! I’m really glad you get to share it with him.

  • @franza94
    @franza94 25 днів тому +1

    Good content please make more

  • @Mamoswindle
    @Mamoswindle 21 день тому

    Not sure if this came up in another comment, but it's worth noting that the avatar's half damage applies before melta 2 so the bonus 2 can't be halved, not that you're expecting to get huge results in the scenario but it does add a reasonable touch of damage back

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  21 день тому

      Yeah, this was my biggest error. Should result in a 33% increase in mean damage. These comments really help though so I can update my program. Thank you.

    • @Mamoswindle
      @Mamoswindle 21 день тому

      @@warphammer-math happy to help with rules interactions, loving the mathhammer, keep up the good work!

  • @mariog-m9512
    @mariog-m9512 20 днів тому

    I'm surprised you didn't bring in the apothecary biologis. He definitely helps with the uncertain damage output, especially in gladius with fire discipline.

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  20 днів тому

      Yeah… mistakes were made, that’s why I need you guys to help me out!

  • @fishtoduface
    @fishtoduface 20 днів тому

    Should do the sunforge suits with and without commanders, very similar unit

  • @jonathanko5471
    @jonathanko5471 22 дні тому

    I think your point came across very well, but i think the avatar of khaine graph was incorrect, as I believe the half damage modifier was applied incorrectly ( i am assuming the damage numbers are inside melta range). I only believe this because it is impossible to deal 2 damage to the avatar (in 40k, you halve damage, then add, then round damage up, so (1dmg/2) + 2dmg, for 2.5, which rounds to 3. Ends up pushing the chance to kill him a little higher, i think it goes closer to like... 2 or 3%, and the upper limit is also 20 damage, not 16. ((6/2)+2) x 4 shots

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  22 дні тому +1

      I honestly didn’t know about this interaction till after this video. I bet this won’t be the only time. Thank you for pointing this out.

  • @jomsviking9948
    @jomsviking9948 22 дні тому

    This is awesome!

  • @AB-ke2lw
    @AB-ke2lw 25 днів тому +1

    Half the damage is only the D6 portion, not the melta 2 part.

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  23 дні тому +1

      Hmmm, I hadn’t considered this. Thank you.

    • @AB-ke2lw
      @AB-ke2lw 23 дні тому +1

      @@warphammer-math Its unintuitive, an easy miss.

    • @spinos1237
      @spinos1237 16 днів тому

      Its because of the order in which you apply modifiers, multiplicative modifiers first then additive. So the damage is halved then add 2

  • @fenristhor9204
    @fenristhor9204 22 дні тому

    I want to compare Noise Marines with Abaddon and hellbrute and without. Also what the difference is compared to havocs with las. Do not forget raid detachment for bonus ap.

  • @suleimansufianov5702
    @suleimansufianov5702 21 день тому

    And people keep being surprised when my LR survives against a full unit of eradicators with smoke and AoC

  • @Lothrean
    @Lothrean 21 день тому

    You would think a math teacher wouldn’t need a simulation to figure those results out. ;)

  • @MegaLdragoDestroy
    @MegaLdragoDestroy 22 дні тому

    Video idea:
    Probability for each key space marine unit to take down a knight :D

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  22 дні тому +1

      Rad!

    • @MegaLdragoDestroy
      @MegaLdragoDestroy 22 дні тому

      @@warphammer-math
      another funny one would be:
      Probability of key Astra Militarum units killing a custodes….

  • @Youschnoob649
    @Youschnoob649 22 дні тому

    I’ve refused to run eradicators for the past year. They’ve wiffed so many times wounding on 5s
    I’ve also given up on the ballistus
    Lancers are where it’s at

  • @IscariottActual
    @IscariottActual 23 дні тому

    Roll back the cohost by 10% and you got a hit. this is real good

  • @enoontnatropmi7174
    @enoontnatropmi7174 25 днів тому +2

    Now do 6 with biologis! lethals...

    • @scolack123
      @scolack123 23 дні тому

      A near 300 pt combo BETTER wreck shit

  • @im2randomghgh
    @im2randomghgh 19 днів тому

    Given that they can re-roll damage and it isnt pass/fail, how did you factor that into your simulations? Did you re-roll 1-3, just 1s etc?

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  19 днів тому +1

      Great question. And yes exactly. Expectations value for 1 roll is 3.5. So if you reroll 1-3 then the total expectation value jumps to 4.25. I may have to build in some more logic later for edge cases.

  • @fenristhor9204
    @fenristhor9204 22 дні тому

    Melta bonus dmg does not get halved by Avatar, because it is added after the Avatars ability.

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  22 дні тому

      Ugh… totally didn’t realize this until I saw the comments. Thanks for looking out. I’ll have to fix that for future episodes

  • @nickontheinternet
    @nickontheinternet 26 днів тому

    Maybe an episode about which unit best destroys space marines? Asking for the aliens from Starship Troopers…

  • @anthonysees5015
    @anthonysees5015 22 дні тому

    This is an awesome video! I subscribed to your channel this is so good! I just played a game tonight where Eradicators killed my Nightbringer C'Tan shard with 8 remaining wounds in overwatch of all things. Nightbringer is T11, with 4+ invulnerable save, 5+ feel no pain, and halves damage (not the melta though). It was nuts.
    I would love to run the math on what happened to my Nightbringer. Is there a specific program that you use to run the simularions and produce the data?

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  22 дні тому

      I actually wrote the program myself. I’m still toying with it and adding capabilities. I really hope to make it into a full blown app eventually, but I’m not really a developer. Hopefully this channel will help me get there!

  • @Ragnar42
    @Ragnar42 22 дні тому

    So we learned what we already knew. You need 6 models with 4 Meltaguns and 2 multimeltas.

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  22 дні тому

      3 are still pretty great for softening up targets!

  • @williamwills3460
    @williamwills3460 22 дні тому

    I run full man plus incurred prior. Deletes any vehicle or 5 man. Minus inv

  • @lorenzosgarallino
    @lorenzosgarallino 24 дні тому +1

    20% of the times it happens all the times

  • @phoenixgods1
    @phoenixgods1 24 дні тому

    ive been looking at getting them but i've been postponing it because as cool as they seem i'm pretty unlucky, thanks for the succinct video.

  • @smorg9693
    @smorg9693 20 днів тому

    tell your cohost to turn down the gain and turn on noise suppression

  • @nitrous146
    @nitrous146 26 днів тому

    How does the numbers change if you run it as a six man?

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  26 днів тому +5

      double damage... and doubling the location of of the quartiles would give a decent approximation. odds start to look alot better. maybe ill have to make a short?

    • @nickontheinternet
      @nickontheinternet 25 днів тому

      @@warphammer-math do it! thats a great question to run with @nitrous146

  • @nickthenoodle9206
    @nickthenoodle9206 25 днів тому

    Enjoyed that.

  • @NoxMortem
    @NoxMortem 25 днів тому +1

    Say whatever you want but casino guns are always fun ^^ Best for me was a sagitaur vs a blob of wardens round5 in a tournament.
    So sagitaur the has A2 12 -3 D6 SusD3. He rolls two sixes, and than a 5 and a 6 ^^ so 8! Hits on me. Double grudge token on me so -1 +1 on the wound he passes all 8 xD
    And i didn't activate the 4+++ bc there are zerkers waiting for me and math wise the sagitaur would kill one warden. So 8 saves on a 4++, i pass 7! of them xD
    From that point on it was just a big times fun game, i lost 7-13 but made a friend bc of silly dice luck.

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  23 дні тому

      Don’t get me wrong. I love swingy units. I’m personally more interested in having a good time than I am in having an optimized list.

    • @nickontheinternet
      @nickontheinternet 23 дні тому

      That’s the best, you got a good attitude and making friends over silly dice luck is wayyy better than winning a game!

  • @AntigoneFuriosa
    @AntigoneFuriosa 18 днів тому

    More videos. Now. Keep this going!

  • @LettersFromLynx
    @LettersFromLynx День тому +1

    Love this

  • @bojoggs-ik8tq
    @bojoggs-ik8tq 22 дні тому

    Id like to see multimelta devastators with the cherub.

    • @warphammer-math
      @warphammer-math  22 дні тому

      I love this idea. Worth a look, they will be far less efficient without those re-rolls though. That said…. I like running first born wherever I can.

    • @bojoggs-ik8tq
      @bojoggs-ik8tq 21 день тому

      @warphammer-math I run a squad in FAF with an Apothecary, Champion of Humanity and in a Razorback. Specifically to delete ctan and Avatars