@@LIRetroGaming Yeah, I think RGB is king but if you dont have the skillset to mod your own TV, or want to pay for that service, the HD retrovision cable is a viable alternative
Thank you going over the mod, there are so much space in there to do the RGB mod. The jumper wires look really convenient to solder onto instead of directly to the jungle chip's legs. I have this same model as well. Since it already has component, did you see any improvement over RGB?
Hey nice name man. Rare to see someone proud of their ethnicity. I rarely see arcade monitors since like 2015 and theyre all beatup now. Only thing i liked about them is the screen size
Hello friend, I have a CRT '21 TV and the Component input has the image flickering, I connected the Y to the Composite AV1 input, the perfect and stable image appears, but black/white, it is possible for me to inject the other 2 cables from the Component in Composite to be colored?
@@LIRetroGaming It's a Sony Trinitron KV-20TS30. Manufactured in 1989. It has an S-Video too. And I was thingking of copying the 8-bit-guy's methods. But I'm glad I bumped into your video.
I still don't understand the difference between an rgb/scart if they're the same as component? I can only imagine for better controls of the osd but if I want best quality picture, isn't component all I need? Cuz' if that's the case, I don't need it modded, right?
You are correct, component video and RGB video are equal in terms of quality. Therefore if all of your systems are already using component cables then you would not need this mod. This mod is only beneficial if your existing setup uses RGB or if you’re planning to use the tv to replace a monitor in an arcade cabinet
@@LIRetroGaming So just to understand. Are you saying that if I choose to have my NES RGB modded and use SNES multiport component cables to component inputs, it will look the same as using my non modded NES with composite to composite inputs on the JVC D? I had a feeling it's better to mod my NES with RGB and then feed it into the component inputs on the JVC rather than non modded straight traditional composite.
still not clear on something. when adding resistors to the TV (or on the scart input) during an rgb mod, do i still need a scart cable that includes its own resistors? (sometimes they have caps too) or should i get a regular old cable that doesn't include these things?
The TV needs its own set of resistors like I did in the video, and that will make it compatible with all types of cables including the ones that you described
@@lgmnowkondo938 SCART and Component are connection types. They describe the actual style for the connector. Like philips head screw or flat head screw. RGB is actually a name for a colorspace. The component inputs accept RGB signal in the yPbPr format. Some argue overall there is an ever so SLIGHT difference in quality between RGBS (red, green, blue, sync) over scart as opposed to RGBS over component. You can use something like HD RetroVision component cables for the Sega Genesis and pull the native RGB directly from the genesis and pump it into the D-Series component inputs and it will be all but indistinguishable from the picture quality of an RGB Scart mod like this one.
@@lgmnowkondo938 This TV has component inputs, which MOST CRT's do not have. Those made in the early 2000's before CRT's stopped being made had them. Those made before the 2000's almost never had them, so the vast majority do not. If you have a JVC D-Series, then you get component input. By default the component inputs are set to composite mode. If you hook up component cables and feed in an RGB signal, you'll get a black and white screen. You have to go into the menu and set component mode on AV2 to ON. If you perform this RGB SCART mod, the way you access the RGB SCART input is by hitting the menu button. Since we are injecting the RGB signals into the lines that the OSD menu would normally be transferred, we have to turn the menu on to active that signal. The mod simply hijacks the input for the TV's menu, and injects the RGB data coming from the SCART connector we wired in. The toggle switch that got wired up is to enable the ability to actually display the TV's menu signal, instead of the RGB from the SCART socket.
I know that leon kiriliuk is an extremely talented modder that is located in Canada, I’m just not sure exactly where he is. Definitely check him out as an option
I have an N-Series JVC. I got most of the parts to do the mod, only missing thing now is an old gpu, which sadly i dont have a budget for. But looking at it, this Toshiba jungle ic seems compatible with this mod as it has separate digital rgb for the osd and unused Analog rgb input.
@@LIRetroGaming ahhh...ok. I see what you're saying. But, if I have a computer that is doing 15Khz, I would think that a vga connector would be good? And is the scart connector for a console something you got in europe?
@@lgmnowkondo938 SCART NTSC is very useful for having all RGB inputs and sound. If you are going to use game consoles, SCART is the way to go. If you plan on using a PC, def go with VGA.
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Excellent job! I have been waiting for a proper mod video for a while. Keep up the awesome work!
I just use a plug and play solution with HD retrovision component cables into the CRT’s component input jacks. The quality is on par.
Yeah that’s a great option and looks nice on a crt
@@LIRetroGaming Yeah, I think RGB is king but if you dont have the skillset to mod your own TV, or want to pay for that service, the HD retrovision cable is a viable alternative
Cool. Good job
Quality video, thanks!
That is magnificent 🤩 man great job , are you doing this mods for costumers ?
Yes I am, and you can find my website at 1uprestorations.com
@@LIRetroGaming I see mods for consoles on the website, but no mods for CRTs.
In the video you kept saying 270ohm but in the description you link to a 280ohm resistor. was 270 too bright after using it in the video?
Thank you going over the mod, there are so much space in there to do the RGB mod. The jumper wires look really convenient to solder onto instead of directly to the jungle chip's legs. I have this same model as well. Since it already has component, did you see any improvement over RGB?
I have always thought these JVC tvs looked better than arcade monitors.
Hey nice name man. Rare to see someone proud of their ethnicity.
I rarely see arcade monitors since like 2015 and theyre all beatup now.
Only thing i liked about them is the screen size
As soon as I saw you disconnect like 50 different wires I felt my dream slowly die lol
Lol yeah unfortunately there’s a lot to keep track of
I usually take a picture of it before disconnecting so you know where everything goes. works for me everytime
Hello friend, I have a CRT '21 TV and the Component input has the image flickering, I connected the Y to the Composite AV1 input, the perfect and stable image appears, but black/white, it is possible for me to inject the other 2 cables from the Component in Composite to be colored?
No, unfortunately I don’t think that will work
Well done 👏🏻
Hello 👋🏽 great content. Question: Can a Sony Trinitron KV-27FS17 be rgb modded?
Pretty sure that they can, I think those are a BA5 chassis
@@LIRetroGaming yes, it's a BA5
@LIRetroGaming also, is a rgb mod for KV-27FS17 needed? I was told no it already provides rgb through component?
Found a Sony Trinitron on a curb nearby, I don't know what resistors to use.
It’s going to depend a lot on the model. You should check reddit because there may be a guide for your specific television
@@LIRetroGaming It's a Sony Trinitron KV-20TS30. Manufactured in 1989. It has an S-Video too. And I was thingking of copying the 8-bit-guy's methods. But I'm glad I bumped into your video.
@@raiyu1985 Your television is a year older than mine! Though it is a General Electronics television.
I don’t see why you removed the pull downs that wouldn’t break the connection to the two chips
great video, does the dot crawl go away ? (compared to component input ?)
It’s been a while since I did this, but I don’t recall seeing dot crawl on the RGB input
I still don't understand the difference between an rgb/scart if they're the same as component? I can only imagine for better controls of the osd but if I want best quality picture, isn't component all I need? Cuz' if that's the case, I don't need it modded, right?
You are correct, component video and RGB video are equal in terms of quality. Therefore if all of your systems are already using component cables then you would not need this mod.
This mod is only beneficial if your existing setup uses RGB or if you’re planning to use the tv to replace a monitor in an arcade cabinet
@@LIRetroGaming So just to understand. Are you saying that if I choose to have my NES RGB modded and use SNES multiport component cables to component inputs, it will look the same as using my non modded NES with composite to composite inputs on the JVC D? I had a feeling it's better to mod my NES with RGB and then feed it into the component inputs on the JVC rather than non modded straight traditional composite.
Question:
Those three SMD resistors that had beed removed were situated directly between the two chips correct?
Is it possible to RGB mod a RF only CRT TV?
Possibly, it depends on what chips are used for the onscreen menu
Having one of these arive shortly. Is there enough room to preform the mod without removing the board?
It’s possible but it would be very difficult to get access to everything. Much easier and safer to discharge the monitor and remove the main board
still not clear on something. when adding resistors to the TV (or on the scart input) during an rgb mod, do i still need a scart cable that includes its own resistors? (sometimes they have caps too) or should i get a regular old cable that doesn't include these things?
The TV needs its own set of resistors like I did in the video, and that will make it compatible with all types of cables including the ones that you described
so do you run this on the composite input? Or how do you select the input for RGB use?
You select the Component video input to access RGB
@@LIRetroGaming and you can use those component inputs no scart required?
I mean, you can use the component inputs as rgb inputs?
@@lgmnowkondo938 SCART and Component are connection types. They describe the actual style for the connector. Like philips head screw or flat head screw. RGB is actually a name for a colorspace.
The component inputs accept RGB signal in the yPbPr format. Some argue overall there is an ever so SLIGHT difference in quality between RGBS (red, green, blue, sync) over scart as opposed to RGBS over component.
You can use something like HD RetroVision component cables for the Sega Genesis and pull the native RGB directly from the genesis and pump it into the D-Series component inputs and it will be all but indistinguishable from the picture quality of an RGB Scart mod like this one.
@@lgmnowkondo938 This TV has component inputs, which MOST CRT's do not have. Those made in the early 2000's before CRT's stopped being made had them. Those made before the 2000's almost never had them, so the vast majority do not.
If you have a JVC D-Series, then you get component input. By default the component inputs are set to composite mode. If you hook up component cables and feed in an RGB signal, you'll get a black and white screen. You have to go into the menu and set component mode on AV2 to ON.
If you perform this RGB SCART mod, the way you access the RGB SCART input is by hitting the menu button. Since we are injecting the RGB signals into the lines that the OSD menu would normally be transferred, we have to turn the menu on to active that signal. The mod simply hijacks the input for the TV's menu, and injects the RGB data coming from the SCART connector we wired in. The toggle switch that got wired up is to enable the ability to actually display the TV's menu signal, instead of the RGB from the SCART socket.
Can you recommend a modding service in western Canada?
I know that leon kiriliuk is an extremely talented modder that is located in Canada, I’m just not sure exactly where he is. Definitely check him out as an option
im in BC if you need a mod done, In the Kootenays.. Where are you located?
arent component the same than RGB¿
The video quality between component and RGB are very similar but they are derived differently
Does This mod take away the use of the components ?
No it does not
Thanks for the fast response.!!
One more question.
Is it possible to add another scart or component input to the tv?
Any idea if this can be done on non-D models of JVC CRTs?
Yes there should be a lot of different versions that are compatible. There are guides on Reddit that you should check out
I have an N-Series JVC. I got most of the parts to do the mod, only missing thing now is an old gpu, which sadly i dont have a budget for.
But looking at it, this Toshiba jungle ic seems compatible with this mod as it has separate digital rgb for the osd and unused Analog rgb input.
also...why use scart? If the computer has vga, why not use that?
I’m not sure what you mean, I was connecting retro consoles to this tv with RGB, not a computer. VGA also has a faster refresh rate (31khz vs 15khz)
@@LIRetroGaming ahhh...ok. I see what you're saying. But, if I have a computer that is doing 15Khz, I would think that a vga connector would be good? And is the scart connector for a console something you got in europe?
@@lgmnowkondo938 SCART NTSC is very useful for having all RGB inputs and sound. If you are going to use game consoles, SCART is the way to go. If you plan on using a PC, def go with VGA.
You want to sell this tv?
It was not mine, I was doing this work for a friend
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LED.LCD.UHD ruim pior porblemo feio TVS nada AV ou HDMI jogos RGB nada Fail froca 😑 cegos difícil TVS