China's Mini EVs Are A Game-Changer & Going Global
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- China has a solution to the EV problem: Price! Electric cars are expensive in Europe but China is producing a wide range of cheap small electric cars and now they are going global! Will these mini-cars be just as big of a hit in Europe as they were domestically?
00:29 Peter Fintl, Director of Technology & Innovation Capgemini Engineering
00:47 Stefan Bratzel, Director Center of Automotive Management
01:01 Günther Schuh, Aachen University Professor
01:17 Johr Zhou, Dayun Auto
01:27 Small affordable EV's for Europe
01:47 Chinese EV's sold in Germany
01:57 Dayun ES 2
02:09 ZhiDou D2S
02:20 Wuling Hong Guang
02:29 BYD Seagull
02:35 Geely Panda Mini
02:42 The Chinese EV Market: Price Analysis
04:07 China vs Europe: Average Price of Electric Cars
06:31 European Car Manufacturers and Battery Costs
07:44 The Role of EU Regulations in Hindering Small EVs
09:56 Lars Stevenson, Elaris CEO
10:49 The EU's Costly Safety Regulations: A Barrier to Affordable E-Cars
12:00 The Time Factor: China's Entry into the European Market
12,58 Jens Schulz, Emil Frey Group
13:35 The Possibility of Chinese Carmakers Producing in Europe
14:10 Dieter Trzaska: A Pioneer in Importing Chinese E-Cars
REV - The Global Auto and Mobility Show from Deutsche Welle
#DW #DWREV
Young people may not know that VW invented the Beatle, a practical, functional, and affordable "People's Car" that was sold & loved by millions around the world. Car companies nowadays only serve the rich with expensive models for greater profit. I hope China can succeed in making car affordable again for everybody.
This is nonsense. Even in China, the appeal of small, mini-EVs is limited to densely populated, urban cities. China's problem here is that the battery tech the Chinese gov't is promoting and pushing for export is less energy efficient and heavier (and loses a lot of capacity in cold) strictly limiting its use to entry-level, low-range EVs.
@@tooltalk maybe what he/she mean is "beatle"-ish / proper sized EV cars... like byd's seagull or wuling's bingo... etc, for me personally I was drooling toward Zeekr X.
The govt wants to make cars unaffordable to poor.. they want to create 2 tier society.. the poor travel in public transport and rich in cars and planes..
@@tooltalk
All those but more long lasting than the ones used in Tesla and other US and European carmakers.
If an average German drives 40km a day, which is better? One that has a lower distance per charge but last longer or vice versa?
@@ij4674 >>All those but more long lasting than the ones used in
The cars in China are almost two times cheaper than those in Europe this outrageous
Sure, it costs less not only b/c of cheaper labor, but also substantially cheaper energy cost which comes from burning coals -- ie, more global warming.
Nope. They share the price in China.
Actually not only small ones but also some high class premium ev cars produced in China. It’s fierce competition on going now in China within Chinese car brands.
🎉A small and affordable electric car
Volkswagen ID3 is selling for 16000 EURO in China ! German Car actually can be very very competitive !
Those European OEM's are SOOOOOOO arrogant. You think they can't afford to homologate their products to global standards? REALLY? Of course they can and they'll do it at a fraction of the price because they are quick, nimble and not usually bogged down by as much bureaucracy when it comes to product launches... 24-month design cycles and model lifespans are common there... In the EU and the USA? 60-month if you're lucky... I mean the VW 2026 launch that I believe has already been cancelled is a galling reminder of how NOT serious VW is at making mass-market EV's... Much less the $77K CAD entry level price for their freakin' Microbus...
Yes
Wouldn't it be nice if the UK were to spearhead the importation of these, considering they are no longer constrained by Europe. I'm sure due to the success Europe would follow suit.🤷♂
The UK may not have to do anything at all. Now that the EU has announced plans to slap additional tariffs (ranging from 17% to 36.3%) on Chinese EV imports, Schmidt Automotive Research predicts that Chinese carmakers like SAIC and BYD will turn their sights on non-EU countries -- like the UK, Norway and Switzerland.
@@DWREV Well that would be nice, but i'm sure our government would probably fall into European line (with tariffs)...Who knows, it is Labour so there's more of a chance than the Tories.😬🤷♂
@@DWREV P.s subbed for replying on a year ago vid.
@@SeeDaRipper... Yeah, it will be interesting to see what Starmer & Co. decide to do: follow the US, the EU, or go their own way. We'll keep our eyes peeled.👀
@@DWREV Preferably the latter🤞
Mini EV=Mini battery=Mini range. What happens to you if it gets hit by a 10,000 pound EV Hummer?
are you suggesting that KIA and Mercedes share the same quality? sorry, so disrespect to KIA
No not at all🤣 solves nothing better off using a bunch of small mechanical diesel cars that can last 300k miles and be rebuilt easier and keep going and run on veggie oil or other waste oils.
What's with the Volkswagen E-up? At the end you can buy a Smart E or a E Twingo (or the named Dacia Spring or the E.GO) if you want a cheap electric car. No need to buy sweatshop cars without any control of a fair supply chain! I doubt that a used Nissan Leaf or a Hyundai Ionic are more expensive than the shown retrofitted deathtraps
Talk of sweatshops ha, like how Volks Group BMW and Daimler outsourcing manufacturing to Easter European countries? If you enjoy secondhand stuff, ya eBay's always there for you.
Knowledge points: Dacia Spring is an EV imported to Europe after being made in China by Dongfeng-EGT, a 50-50 joint venture between Chinese state-owned Dongfeng Motor and Renault, located in Hubei Province, China.
By the way, the Chinese version of this car is called Dongfeng EX-1, unfortunately poor sales ~ (not competitive).
why are the regulations so strict like requiring lane assist or drowsiness assist to be there when many of their gas powered cars don't even have those features? Like how are those features made into a required standard? They shoould juist be seen as a bonus. We have drivers that have drives cars with no lane assist for GENERATIONS. Requiring them to be installed isn't doing any difference.
while america is guarding the oil fields in syria!!!!!!!!
Smaller and affordable EVs are the answer to greener future.
Smaller and affordable cars were always the answer to greener future, but never took off.
@@tooltalk small cars and public transport is for broke boys. 😂😂😂
@@johnsmith-cw3wo : of course, most of these Chinese mini EVs are literally death trap boxes.
There’s another solution: ELECTRIC TRAINS.
@@ianhomerpura8937 Just get a bike.
Seeing it as a catalyst of world improvement is a positive thinking. Tired of the mentally of can't do better than others, then calling others a threat instead of improving ourselves. 👍🏻💪🏻
That's the american way..... glad u figure it out
😂My family have one Mini EV and another oil car. Mini EV is super cheap (in every sides, electribity bill is much cheaper than oil, maintenance fee)and easy to park. Now it is more popular than oil car in my family
Love China for its approach to facilitate the world in cost effective manner and efficiency wise. China really deserves to be super power now. Love from Pakistan ❤
this is an expected response from Pakistan. LOL
@@tooltalk True, and true on the OP.
Stop making driving complicate, just keep it simple. What a driver acctrually need are 4 wheels, a sit, a gas pedal and some proper designed and well working breaks. Nothing more!
Complicate means more money and profit.
While In most cases it's useless to be complicated
Citroen 2CV !...oh wait... working brakes...never mind.
Exactly! Govts over-complicate in the name of protection to the point that people can't exercise discretion. That's dumbing people down and wresting responsibility away from people.
China not only has small EVs but also has a lot of big EVs.
As a proud Chinese, I'm very happy to watch and hear western programs giving genuinely high praises to China. Normally, the comments are genuinely nasty with or without basis.
glad to see the rise of EV, better for the planet...better for our kids and any country that does this should be praised!
Where did you see praises? This is DW. They smear the Chinese government and the CCP and then plug images of Chinese government and CCP in every video about China. You need to stop being naive. These are racist MFs.
The EU is not your friend. Truth be told, they are even more protectionist than the US, but more subtle and certainly more covertly.
They are currently using China to give them time to catch up with China in EV production and sodium-ion (as opposed to lithium) technology.
Same with the Tesla is also needing China's technology in battery because they started the research almost 5 years later than China in battery material and physical configuration. Tesla is buying BYD's Blade configuration.
ps. I am not Chinese, but I have worked in China, and know how naïve the Chinese layman is because of the lack of access to the social media of the West such as UA-cam, Twitter, Instagram because your people have Douyin, Bilibili, etc.
That's envy! Love Chinese people from Iran
@@HTeo-og1lg If you believe a random collection of average Joes in any country is not "naive" of international affairs, you're joking youself. YT/Twitter/Insta is no better than Douyin/Bili, if not worse.
We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow. -Lord Palmerston
I want my next car to be Chinese EV, not BMW anymore. I hope they export Avatr 11 worldwide
buy Zeeker 001, not Avatar 11.
我也非常喜欢这个车。我的下一辆车就准备买这个。超级智能
Chinese EV, high quality, the best 👍🏼
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Yes, let's buy everything from China and let's lose our jobs...
Chinese auto companies not only make small electric cars, but also electric SUVs and EV MPVs EV Pickup trucks. Even manufacture electric engineering vehicles, such as EV mine car, EV ambulance, EV fire truck。In fact in order to reduce carbon emissions, we need to replace any kind of vehicle with electric vehicles, except tanks and armored vehicles。
as said in other comment, China's inferior LFP batteries doesn't allow that to happen. China needs to use South Korea's NMC or Japan's NCA to be able to sell mid/high EVs.
@@tooltalk so, Tesla do not need? VW do not need？
@@tooltalk Tesla uses CATL. LFP is proprietary technology of BYD. And no matter how you cut it, all the basic materials like Lithium mainly comes from Chinese firms. They have the lithium market cornered. So even if LG Chem or Panasonic makes battery, guess where they source their materials from ... China.
@@DucaTech : >>Tesla uses CATL. > LFP is proprietary technology of BYD. ...> And no matter how you cut it, all the basic materials like Lithium mainly comes from Chinese firms.
@@DucaTech >> So even if LG Chem or Panasonic makes battery, guess where they source their materials from ... China. ...
It seems the EU will throw up significant barriers to importing small EV forcing manufacturers to build in Europe to participate. This will drive the cost up in Europe and ultimately limit competition.
What's driving the cost of EVs globally is China's artificially propped up EV market demand. That in turn creates highly inflated demand for raw materials like lithium, which makes it very expensive for other EV/battery makers to build EVs. When China's last EV tax break/subsidies ended on Jan 1, 2023, the price of lithium collapsed by 75%.
@@tooltalk 锂价的暴跌是因为产能过剩，和纳电池的下线。纳电池成本只有锂电池的10%。虽然容量小点，但成本优势太明显。不太追求体积的场所都可以把锂电换掉
While I agree that building plants in Germany will make car costs higher. You need the common man, whose family has to eat and be sheltered. So China should build some battery and 🚗 car factories.
@@tooltalkthat was the purpose of this report makes you believe that it is unfair the competition for this market bc the CCP was "subsidizing" the companies. Never referred to the hows. However, Europe subsidize most of his economic sector and here in the third we can't say anything despite the unfairness for example in agriculture. Europeans are hypocrites. Let the free market work, be serious.
@@felipe1031 : Sure, I agree Europea's woke environmentalism and unrealistic regulatory goals set for automobile industry is partly to blame here. Also you can't forget the fact that this whole process of mining raw materials for batteries in the 3rd world countries are highly toxic and polluting, yet Europe is willing to turn a blind eye in the name of environmentalism. As long as it's not my backyard! Let Europeans pollute their air and land, clean after them.
The chief editor of DW must be on summer vacation this week!😮
they will use this article to say it's proof that Scholz is pro China.
Yea DW has recently become very biased and untrustworthy
Lol. It does appear that way, doesn't it?!
突然说话正常了，我也不习惯，反复确认这是否是德国之声？
DW的中文版就像个精神病😂
Here in Canada the government pays lip service to EVs, but not much else. If they were really serious about getting EVs on the road they would allow Chinese made small, inexpensive, and energy efficient vehicles into the market and focus their efforts on getting a charging infrastructure in place.
Canada is too cold to have a EV. in Northeastern china with winter like canada. EV is not an option
@@TheKenzhang Canada has many people driving EVs they never complain about the weather affecting their EVs but all of them are Tesla.
@@TheKenzhang Have you spoken to people in Canada who owns EV's?
@@LH1xx Agreed! There's TONS of EV's here. I'm guessing they're American and you know how they are, it's always too cold for anything. Given the state of the climate, I think Canada will be the destination for many Americans who are dealing with the heat, even though we're super hot up here lately.
@@TheKenzhang It's not cold in Canada. In winter, the coldest temperature in Ottawa is -14 degrees Celsius. You can't call it cold.
The temperature of some parts of the world has reached 43 degrees Celsius in this summer. Germany should take action before it's too late.
Carbon has nothing to do with that. In my country June was terrible cold with non-stop rain..
@@dquzmanovic You don't seem to understand climate change. Different parts of the world are effected differently so some areas become hotter while other areas actually become colder than they should be.
China small or mini EV are so attractive in appearance, economical, environmentally friendly, & cost effective. Definitely get one when it's available
Expect politics to slap a 75% tarrif
@@toyotaprius79 they rather w8 till you buy one, and then slam road tax on you, or tax for battery utilization, or just skyrocket electricity price, they will figure it out eventually.
Me too.
@@urimtefiki226maybeＩcan help u soon
It's the opposite of environmentally friendly
German car companies prioritize focus on brand value (design, marketing, promises, potential) aimed at investor not product value for consumer.
If this program is a criticism for China, the views must be huge!
But it doesn't mean people don't watch it. It starts with the objective and open minded people, thought leaders.
Of which aspect of china has to be criticized.
@@tamayaytam skin color
$4K a EV! Count me in! I’ve always want a city car.
It's not happening the base model BYD dolphin is $13-14k US in China - Australia is a "cheap" market the same car is $27k US, that's 2/3rd's the price of a base Tesla model 3.
None of the really cheap EVs can pass minimum safety standards.
@@TB-up4xi Yet are vastly safer than a motorcycle which kills people at a 27-41X higher rate than even the shittiest car... Go figure...
Ditto! Wuling Mini's should be the Coca-Cola Classic of Kei/City cars... Cheap and available in evey market worldwide... As a Smart Fortwo owner myself very few trips actually need a second seat much less a back seat or even trunk... Though I can fit 12 bags of groceries in my car if need be... As well as a 40" HDTV set...Though sadly not at the same time...
Great documentary but the absence of Chinas largest electric car maker BYD and its push to manufacture in Europe is somewhat surprising...
BYD's EU sales isn't that great so far -- no Chinese EV brand exceeds 1% of the EU market share.
did you know china is making these vehicles and then just abandoning them in a field saying they are selling a lot...
Here is the summary: Small electric vehicles are currently unavailable in Europe. They are made well in China. The only way to get them is to import them.
That's the process I'm currently going through.
As long as it is structurally safe in a accident, it makes sense for people who simply need basic transportation. Revision: I was informed the mini EV max speed is about 30 mph. Make sense since a crash at 65 mph in these tiny EV looks fatal. OK for city driving only. I would feel unsafe driving a tiny EV at 65 mph.
When china has progress on one product, it makes it affordable for general public. First tv, then phones, now cars, in the future china will make more affordable boats and planes to lift the living standard of all human.
Thank you China 🎉❤
The watch makers in Swiss took heavy hit when Japanese introduced digital watch. With right product differentiation strategies they are still making billions and billions every year.
A pleasant change with an actually objective report DW has recently become very biased and untrustworthy
I was thinking about the same thing.
you can get a same EV for half of the price in China, I think EU put too much tax on the import Chinese EV. But on the other hand, China also put a lot tax on the luxury cars to double their price.
Is China also taking over the European market with its small electric cars? Or are VW and Co finally waking up? WHAT DO YOU think??
Cheap????? Affordable???
Thats the US's worst nightmare....😅
I want a Chinese EV!
Oh wait, I read on NYT that they are committing a genocide so now we need to resume our previous policy of replacing PRC with the ROC😊
Me too. Here in Taiwan our government won't let us buy them...😢
Chinese EV, high quality.
💪🏼👍🏼
Munro was hinting at the Chinese domination of the EV market. He was discussing how slow the big, established manufacturers are responding to the change. Let's see if GM and Ford can adapt to this new EV landscape.
I'd rather see them crash, executives reprimanded, and the structure be worker ran and owned as a proper American business should be
As a Chinese I am very happy to hear or see such news that the chinese EV will be sold in EU. On the other hand I hope also VW can provide the more convincible and affordable product to the market to meet the demand of customer. As a Chines living in DE I need to buy a new car maybe in 3-5 years. I would like to support the local OEM🙂. Hopefully VW doesn't disappoint me!
Interesting perspective .. Thank you! Which VW do you like the most?
@@DWREV i bought tuguan l rline this January. i watched id4, zeekr001, q5l, byd tang. finally I chose vw tuguan l. 235000rmb after tax. all bcz my wife doesn't want to buy ev.old idea about safety. I prefer byd tang actually
How do you run YT bro?!
Many Chinese brands are already sold in the Nordic countries, unfortunately they are struggling so far.
@@TB-up4xi In France, the best selling Chinese brand is MG and is selling well for a young brand in the market. I had a MG ZS 2 and now a MG4 and I like this MG4, it is not perfect, but still nice (very nice handling, propulsion, more than enough power, nice confort, nice fit and finish, not that expensive compared to other brands). When I bought it, it was the only brand that had a compact car for less than 30000 euros (it might have changed, but I didn't check).
Do Car makers in Germany make driving too complcated nowadays? Should the keep it "more simple" and (with it) more affordable?
EVs no matter the range is most suitable for inner urban driving....which is almost 90% of the time.
Yes those cars are really popular in my country! Almost everyone is buying one and its cheap also environment friendly! China helps people shift to EV easier and solve environment problems one step at a time
There are two reasons why Chinese small affordable cars are not available in the West. Greed by governments and the legacy automakers. Oil taxes and big cars big profits.
>> There are two reasons why Chinese small affordable cars are not available in the West
I having been saying this for year. Small cars make total sense. yet drive around London, all electric cars are big suv types. Makes no sense. they take up more parking space and road space, causing congestion etc. I would love a car that cost £5,000 or less.
the fatality rates in small cars are much higher. not too many want to trade safety for affordabiltiy.
I don't understand why DW News is promoting Chinese vehicles extensively in most of their recent clips, while simultaneously criticizing German manufacturers. May be they are being bribed
The reason why China has such cheap cars because of very low (outdated) mandatory national standard for crashworthiness (Only 50kph front 100% crash test). After mid 2020s, China will mandatory side crash test for all small passenger vehicles. Thus lots of cheap cars (especially vans) will no longer available on the market.
China's the only country that help the lower income earners able to own what is not affordable if produced by other nations. The poor can now own and enjoy what were once unavailable to them and were at the mercy of the rich nations.
The emphasis still needs to be on public transport. Smaller cars take less space than big one obviously, but the traffic problems in big cities will remain.
if the joint ventures are a thing in China, why can't the Europe company start joint ventures with Chinese company in Europe to catch up with Chinese electric car？
It is what they are doing (see VW, Stellantis, Renault...)
I really love DW. So honest and peaceful. Better than respectful. Straightforward and ~0 lies
I recently found out that although China subsidizes it's electric vehicle manufacturers, the US gives out several fold more to it's manufacturers. As an example, BYD got $3.7billion while Tesla got $34billion. Every report will state that China helps it's manufacturers but no western report ever discloses whether they do as well and to what extent. That's either shabby reporting or plain deceitful.
Thanks for commenting! Make sure you watch our latest reports explaining the tariffs the US announced and explaining government subsidies.
China also makes big EVs, I. e. electric buses
EU regulations are Superb, although they increase price of the car but they prefer saftey which is superb, as Life is priceless
Valid point
The europena car maker didn't take e-cars seriously for 40 years, while making billions of profits, now they should invest and try to stay competitive.
why do that when you can just lie about emissions and get out of prison ?
Surprise Lada sell in German. Sounds like EU car industry block the small EV market because they don't have battery manufactory and don't want to under cut their vested car market.
It is fine if the world doesn't want cheap Chinese EVs in their country. Just bring those cheap Chinese EVs to America. We Americans would love to buy them. Don't sell them through dealers because we don't need to pay the middleman. Sell these EVs directly to consumers to keep the price rock bottom. That is the way to compete with Tesla.
>> We would love to buy them. >We Americans would love to buy them. ...
As a last end mobility solution, it is very wrong to think of small car in region like Europe. Alternative solution is to improve the quality of public transport for daily use, change in residential and commercial building plan so that people do not need a personal vehicle, better distribution networks so that people do not need a car for daily needs such as markets (deliver things to home with electric vans. It already happens in china/ Asia) and promoting healthier no carbon traditional solutions of cycling for last mile solution. Cars will not solve the problems of today… they still solve problems those existed until 1990s in Europe. Think different.
So basically national socialism.
China has shared bike system for people to go between bus stops and subway stations. At my hometown Liuzhou, where the Wulin Mini EVs are produced, they also have shared EVs for daily rental. Meanwhile, buses are still doing their jobs are they suppose to. The EVs and shared bikes just fill in the gaps.
Holy shoes, wanted to say this and glad I scrolled this far to find it so I could agree instead.
Agreed, I don't love the trend of mega-sized and high-priced EVs (and cars generally) in western markets, but when you get to a certain level of local mobility...most people really should be walking, biking, taking public transit, etc. rather than driving a car in the first place. I would much rather take quality non-driving alternatives than have to drive these types of little EVs and have only basic features, relatively poor driving dynamics, and still have to deal with the urban driving annoyances such as parking in cities. Unlike the US and Canada, the EU has been making more serious strides in offering viable mobility alternatives to urban driving. If I am going to need a car, I would rather have it be a comfortable highway cruiser and semi-enjoyable to drive. Cars like the upcoming VW ID.2 are my personal ideal from a size, power, feature, and aesthetic preference. And if I can't afford and don't need a car...I'd rather not have to own and pay for one at all if there are better alternatives.
@@ruichen123 Nice to hear, how many of the mini EVs such as the Wulin would you say of their sales are personal vehicles vs. public car share vehicles?
The Wuling Hongguang mini is only a few thousand dollars, and its endurance power is very strong. The main reason is that there are car Charging station everywhere in China, and this basic facility is almost rare in Europe and the United States. In addition, Byd is the world's largest electric vehicle manufacturer, and electric buses are almost all over the world. China is an actor, while Europe and the United States only rely on words.
>> The Wuling Hongguang mini is only a few thousand dollars, and its endurance power is very strong. ...
@@tooltalkwell is it safer than a moped or motorcycle?
Not only small ones.. China will bring all the range of cars. European carmaker they will just follow the latest regulations. But in 2035 will be already late for them.
>> China will bring all the range of cars. ...
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Too bad that they are not available in Canada😢
Go China💪 we need cheap electric cars
When China stops manipulating EV battery supply-chain, EVs would get cheaper.
I 100% agree with the sentiments expressed in this video. Simply put, I definitely WILL buy a small EV for £10,000 & I definitely WON'T buy a large EV for £30,000+! If BYD bring the new Seagull to the UK & slap a £10k price sticker on it, I'll be first in the queue to buy one. As the world (but thankfully not the UK) bakes in record heat, we absolutely need to go green BUT NOT AT ANY PRICE. It has to be affordable. The Chinese understand this, already have products ready to ship & we in the west should buy their cheap EVs..
Problem is Chinese ev cars tend to set on fire, and be hard to put out
And so are Teslas
Asia is shifting faster into electric cars faster than europe. US is lagging way behind. Here in the phils, I use an e-scooter for short distances. Used to have top speed of 30kph now new ones can go up to 120kph and 200km range and only cost $500. Most deliveries are made with small e-delivery vans that can carry 300-500kilos. Public transportation now have e-trikes that can carry 6-8passengers. Its like an electric tuktuks but a little bigger. Downside to electric vehicle is charging time. Takes so long to charge 6-8hrs. For rich people here, they buy european e-cars most of them german cars like audi, mercedez, bmws and porsches But theyre so so so so expensive
The average price of e-bike in Germany is around 4000 dollars with a speed limit of 20 or 25kph. Most of the people consider bikes as a sport/ leasure product.
thy should focus on countries like bangladesh where small cars have a big demand
DW seems to have become a clear chinese stooge
In Indonesia, Chinese Wuling air ev is the #1 sold and most affordable ev car
Wuling memang jos
EV sales in ASEAN are too small.
@tooltalk maybe for now, but these EV car companies think about the long-term game plan. They lay ground their ecosystem require for their specific needs such as charging stations, etc.
Look like “cars” from the movie Idiocracy
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Nice to see respectful analysis. We are in competition with China and the US but we don’t need demagoguery to push european interests.
In terms of production costs China is above the Europeans. Only due to strict EU regulations that hinder the onslaught of competition from Chinese marques in the automobile industry. Or else lots of big European marques will be hard hit in terms of competition because of their high production costs.
>> Only due to strict EU regulations that hinder the onslaught of competition from Chinese marques in the automobile industry.
@tooltalk No, that's not true.
China DID NOT hinder foreign battery companies from overtaking the Chinese market.
They NEVER did, and still do NOT. And you know that!
You should provide proof if you insist on making accusations.
@@tooltalk Are you here to be funny? Is that gonna turn things upside down? When China started developing electric cars 20 years ago, did you in Europe? And what battery companies in Europe can compete? What electric vehicle or electric vehicle brand companies and battery companies existed in Europe 20 years ago? When will Europe be able to compete with China for electric car and battery brands? On the European electric vehicles in China technology and supply chain parts production and manufacturing help to achieve, European electric vehicles are basically made in China😂
@@雅君墨客-i9z :>>When China started developing electric cars 20 years ago, ...
@@ChinaSongsCollection >> China DID NOT hinder foreign battery companies from overtaking the Chinese market.
we should be able to do this in Canada. And we never will, sadly.
One look at the current car market in Europe speaks volumes of how unprepared the competition and business logic is to electrification. Profit begets problems, and inflation
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关于如何降价，特斯拉给出了答案，在中美对抗的大环境下，特斯拉加大了在中国的投资，利用中国的供应链优势向西方出口汽车，如果西方各国的本地化补贴不能低于供应链优势带来的低价格那么这就是未来了，但是如果欧洲放弃资本主义像美国一样仅限于本国的补贴，那么就代表西方的制度被中国彻底打垮了，毕竟现在还在坚持西方几十年以来所宣传的制度的就只剩下欧洲了
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Lol and how much pollution are produce when they made the lithion battery? Just cause the user isnt using gas ans polluting the production of making abd minning the material to make that battery is very bad for the enviroment. Oh and also when charing your EV is the electric being produce came from coal(like china), gas , wind, hydro? So again using coal and fossil fuel to produce produce that your EV use is not helping the enviroment.
Small e cars that are built for a specific purpose shouldn't need all the bells and whistles, that a family car might need. EU bureaucracy is at work, giving jobs for the boys. New cars that could be bought for around €10k would be considered even by sceptics like myself, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon. So I just watch and smile
U can even afford 2 cars and keep one fully charged and ready to go
ID3 are already dropped to around 15000 EUR here in China.
Any possibility to watch crash tests on these automobiles ?
They probably don't exist since it doesn't qualify as a vehicle on most developed countries.
if bicycle a allowed to be ride on the road without any sort of protection other than the rider's helmet, small electric cars with basic safety features like air bags should also be allowed.
Technically and legally speeking, simply compare to the wellknown Ape trikes. Model 200 comes with a max. speed of 61 km/h and is even allowed to drive on German Autobahn. Will not survive any crash test. No ABS or airbag. However, no original EV ape available here, but e.g. for the Indian market. To be more realistic, such an EV would be well suited for small towns without regular public transport.
There is no such thing as a game-changing EV. EVs will be known as throwaway cars in the near future, because no one will want to spend $30k to replace the battery cells.
Mobile fire hazards
Just like Teslas
The attitude of the European regulator makes me sick: "oh we can't make cheap cars because we have a system that imposes crazy amounts of useless equipment in the car, but this is our system and it works"... But does it ? Where are the affordable cars today? This is just waiting for a revolution. "How but I don't know how to make it more affordable"... Yeah, maybe introduce lower homologation standards for the equivalents of kei-cars and give people what they need, instead of tanks?
For decades we've been told "in the future we will all be driving around in micro-cars"
and yet here we are in 3000kg behemoths
Such a tired story line
That snarky comment from the dude at VW aged like sour wine... Also why I hope they go under...
These Chinese EVs are ripe offs, unfairly competing inEU. They must establish factory in EU countries, hire Europeans and American executives, and most importantly triple their price to match that of BMW, Mercedes and Tesla prices. Stop subsidizing. Charge the real cost!
Never thought i will see the day when europe cant compete with chinese production efficiency. I mean Bangladesh yes, Europe 😱
There is one EV that can bridge the gap between smog filled skies and the clean air goal. It's the Geely Panda Mini EV. It can reach 62 mph if the specs are to be believed. Even if it only hits 55, it would be perfect for the daily commute of a large percentage of people in the US. This is the car whose performance numbers I seek to replicate in my Fiat 500 when I convert it.
It's laughable that the governments and businesses of Western countries expect their citizens to pay more for something than is reasonable. It's good for tax revenue and helps to oppress the people who are stupid enough to fall in line. The trouble is that most westerners do jump in line to get the next big thing. By the time I might convert my Fiat, there may be a very good deal on a used EV because many people only keep their cars for 3 years.
I won't ever buy anything Chinese, I know most things are made there but I only trust EU and US brands. I just hope microlino is successful and it's price goes down, would get one for around 10k€ but now they cost around 20k, too expensive for the car it is.
5:50 how to make the chart look better.
The background is of no use, so it's fine to put the price under the percentage.
Bring more contrast to the color, same scheme different brightness (make the darkest brighter and the brightest even brighter)
Title should be: Prices of ... in EU
Chinese EV = deathtrap.