Good point on fatphobia/skinnyphobia and how quickly people can quickly assume negative things about others when we do have certain goals for our bodies (I've been accused of "overcompensating" when I first started lifting and trying to gain weight).
I'm Anorexic, but i also suffer from Bulimic symptoms. I'm an artist, Sometimes, I post thumbnails with my hands in them, I cannot tell you how many times I have edited my hands to make them look nicer, I See this horrible blob holding a pen so i edit it until I like it. Does this make me fatphobic? No. This is My own illness and personal biases towards MY OWN BODY. People who label others as fat phobic when they are merely supporting someone's journey towards being healthy is so...stupid honestly. I'm not in recovery yet, But this wednesday as im posting this, hopefully I will be able to start my journey of slowly getting better and gaining some weight back.
I wish you the best of luck and all the strengh in the world. It's gonna be hard work but so worth it. I've been in recovery for a few years. It's gonna be hard to always stay vigilant to not fall back into those behaviours. So please be open with someone in your close sozial group who will also be keeping an eye on you. Ex. When my depression gets worse I stop eating. My partner bring me food I like and small portions over the day. And they never pressure me, but just remind me. (sorry for any mistakes, english is not my native language )
I just want to say that I wish you the best in your ED recovery and I wish you success in overcoming the voice that I also have in the back of my head that self-criticizes. I believe in you. :)
YOU'VE GOT THIS!!!! You can do this 😤 Even when there are bumps along the way, just remember you are still progressing. Just because you hit a few potholes while driving doesn't mean you stop your car! You just keep continuing your journey :) ETA: Something I've been really enjoying is practicing centering my thoughts on body neutrality, centering my thoughts on enjoying what I'm doing and who I'm with, rather than how I look. It's a struggle but correcting and rephrasing my negative thoughts consistently has helped my quality of life.
Her last video is FULL of comments saying "fatphobia is caused by disgust, but skinnyphobia by jealously". That's so messed up, because it implies that, contrary to being too fat, being too skinny can never reach an unhealthy point.
She even said there's "ugly privilege" because no one will want to assault or harass them. Yikes. Part of me thinks she believes everyone is jealous of her, or she's persecuted for being thin/pretty.
Thank you for addressing the whole appearance versus health aspect. I have a body that has always been pretty in the eyes of society (90-60-90 anyone 🙄). Yet I am so far from health with several severe illnesses like strong asthma and debilitating chronic migraines among others... I'm absolutely sure that there are millions of overweight people in the world who are healthier than me. Never judge a book by its cover is a really good saying for a reason. Also you're so right with your thoughts on the constant throwing around of "you're this phobic, you're that phobic" taking away from the actual phobic comments and systemic problems in e.g. our health care system.
Absolutely! I had friends who were fairly overweight but were absolute BEASTS when it came to physical activity. They were really active and could hike circles around everyone else on the trail WHILE carrying 40lb+ packs of camping gear and water.
Excellent discussion! I vote for no labels and “if it’s not your body, it’s not really your business”. And to your point about people doing what’s right for them, as an older woman who is very enthusiastically weight training, I can say that my primary goal isn’t aesthetics. It’s to ensure that I stave off for as long as I can the frailty that robs old people of their independence.
You are so right...when you label people with no thought or understanding it devalues the REAL fatphobia or skinnyphobia. Our society has a lot of twisted attitudes about diet, weight, age and appearance. Sigh... Great video today!!!!!
Oh my God thank you fot saying this. I'm so tired of people labelling regular people as all sorts of problematic for doing normal human things. I'm afraid of saying that I have a good body shape or posting beautiful pics online because I can be labelled as either humble bragging, or triggering someone's body dysmorphia. I saw it online. Please, one's BDD is their and only their response, I must not be villanized for "provoking" it! Most people aren't going to accuse me, but I still haven't overcome that fear yet. For now
As always, I love your honest and informed take on things. I wholeheartedly agree that exterior appearance is not an indicator of interior wellness. I worked out my whole life, have a good diet and have inherent heart disease and high cholesterol. I hope you have great holiday and continue healing!!!
your strength truly is being diplomatic and communicating effectively. you get your point across without sounding preachy or condescending and you can tell it comes from a place of empathy and good intentions. i agree with you on the whole, but i do think there is nuance to these things that people completely gloss over. for example - you post a picture of yourself and like how you look - but why? where do those preferences come from? what does our appearance communicate about ourselves and our lives? people have the right to autonomy over their bodies, and there is a sociological effect of our appearance as well. both are true!
I often think that people project their own insecurities onto other people way too much. Neutral comments are so easily misconstrued into the negative, and concerns can be assigned biases that were never intended. Unfortunately it usually takes one-on-one conversations to clear such things up, which is pretty much impossible on the internet. But more awareness usually helps realizing that external judgments can be much more indicative of the self than others.
I do agree with you on a lot of things you said…but, okay, Chloe really didn’t do anything wrong. My main issues comes from ED recovery spaces, it’s so triggering to see someone go from an underweight body to the same thing and claim recovery, that does make promote body dysmorphia I’d say, and so many people will use their (dangerous) advice because they think they can recover into an ED body too, like Em_fit or Katie, it’s really triggering. That’s part of why I can’t watch Zoe, to me, the parts of her saying that she eats SoOo much, but really only eats twice a day, so of course it seems like more, bother me. She’s playing both sides and to me, it just kind of feels wrong. She has a much bigger appeal then say, Michelle McDaniels for people with restrictive EDs, because she has one and recovered into one. I get that it’s an ED’d persons bodies problem, but that’s who she built her audience off of, the lack of awareness of that is so wrong. So is her saying stuff like she forgot to eat carbs for 6 months or slim leg videos that are body checks. It’s someone who is possibly disordered making content for disordered people that won’t help them at ALL. And her saying stuff like, “oh starving makes you GAIN weight” and that being the main issue is terrible. Why not say it’s bad because it makes you feel terrible or could kill you? Her content also really isn’t high quality, sorry but it’s not. The quality and the citations and the lack of data is concerning, but the reason she’s so popular is because of her “recovered body” with Chloe, it’s an exercise Chanel with the goal of about you to lose fat and build muscle. Someone with anorexia isn’t going to use it, because Chloe is someone with an outwardly healthy body, that’s beautiful, and also not thinspo. That’s why her making it the way it is isn’t bothersome. That’s why when Hanson makes videos about ability, but only has a few about weight loss, no one gets mad. That’s not the point. But people come to Zoe because they want quasi recovery her way, and that’s where my issues lies with her. If she was outwardly pro Ana, at least someone like me, trying to recover, could avoid it. But then she preaches self love, and so it’s going to reach vulnerable people, along with a crowd of disordered people. That’s my issue with her, and yes, it does promote dysmorphia.
I agree with you. Zoe does pay both sides. She prays self love but constantly talks about how to fast to lose weight and her most watched videos are of her crying at a camera because her already very normal sized body is too fat in her opinion and body checks. Then she creates commentary videos judging other people all high and mighty like she has found the answer to the weight loss equation??? She reacted to a criticism video a while back. Her reaction to criticism was literal CRYING. Just today she (20th December 2023) she uploaded a short called the curse of skinny fat. Meaning you have a small frame but you´re a little "puffy". Babe. THIS IS NOT SELF LOVE AND THIS IS VERY MUCH NOT A CURSE WHAT What tf does the curse mean. Omg you can literally have a normal smal frame with a higher fat percentage how is that a curse WHAT
@@Ekklesia2680 You said everything so well! That’s exactly why I don’t like her, she hasn’t found some magical secret to weight loss, she dieted herself down to being underweight and that’s why people love her, they want to do the same and recover like that. Fine. If it was just that then it wouldn’t be as dangerous, but playing both sides is wrong, and she should be stopped, especially the “I was fat thing” I get she probably does have a case of body dysmorphia, but you can’t say that stuff while also having a disordered audience, what happens if someone is in that body while active in and ED? What if that’s their recovery body? Why promote IF to a disordered audience, she needs to be actually careful
I partially agree with you. I think you are right but in the end everything comes down to how you are phrasing it. I had anorexia for many years and then I gained too much weight because of depression and the medication I was taking. Right now I am on a weight loss journey, and it makes me happy every time I lose 1kg. That doesn't make me fat phobic, I don't hate on fat bodies and on fat people. I do hate my body but it has always been the case, no matter my weight. Now, the thing with ZoeUnlimited is that I felt very triggered watching her old videos. It was the way she spoke about her own body that reminded of my self hatred and it felt wrong. However, I have seen many people online who speak about weight loss in a healthy way. It is important to be careful and to approach the subject carefully because it is a very delicate one. Then we have to look inwards and see how we really feel towards fatness. I hate it on me. I was taught to hate being fat. I was taught it is pretty to be skinny and when I was unhealthily skinny people preaised me for it. Now that is fatphobia. See? Just like we have internalised misoginy we can have internalised fatphobia without being aware of it. We have to do what is healthy and good for our bodies and our minds. For any weight loss or gain journey I recommend to go to therapy to talk about your feelings too. That way, we can learn to love ourselves more.
Great video and great points. I've come to agree with the idea that *sometimes* the broader discourse in so many facets of the online world seems to pathologize everything (not always the case, just sometimes). We live in a moment that has a very binary understanding of things and how our actions fit into some broader scheme. As you said, being told that if you want to have a heavy but lean and muscular physique you're either/both fatphobic/skinnyphobic - or maybe you have your own goals for your own reason, agency outside of that dichotomy? It's a shame that isn't an accepted notion more often, I think there are many people operating outside that framework as they just have goals for their body and life.
Nice video Harry! Great discussion to have. Ive heard many opinions on body since I was a child! Needless to say I had body dismorphia most of my adult life. Now at 41 I don't care what others think. A healthy body comes in all shapes and sizes! Im all about accepting yourself for you and self love! Have a great day Harry!
As the old saying goes, “it’s better to be too honest to be polite than too polite to be honest”. Such attempts to shame anyone who thinks differently are outright pathetic. If you can’t live with a different opinion without judging it solely from the standpoint of its confomity to your own opinion you’re immature and quite stupid - and before such identit-arian itch comes around, let me make it very clear that I’m openly stupidphobic…
Good job taking on such a complicated topic. I would be afraid for my thoughts to go on record! We have to live in these bodies, so we get to choose. No hate here.
I really appreciate your opinions on these topics. I'm in a weird space myself where I'm not really... belonging? in most of the default groupings. It's good to feel like at least some gym bros are cool with me being around. I honestly have mostly felt weird judgment from other women? It's confusing. Also got a TON of backlash from creepy fetish dudes but that's an entirely different can of worms. I feel like the body positivity movement started with some good ideas but also needs a complete restart because it's kinda just all around icky in every fetishistic way possible. (for context, I have a lifetime from 18 mos old of ED and was 557 lbs 2 years ago and I've lost 150 lbs and the social pressures that surround these issues are overwhelmingly toxic and are often what causes my short relapses)
This is spot on. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that your worrying about getting to your happy place and haven't got time to worry about others. Those comments come from people who are unhappy and therefore want to burn the bridges or those trying to become happy. Here's a thought though.... what if by looking the way you want to look then has a profound effect on those around you for example, if you are morbidly obese, 500lbs etc, we all know this is not healthy. No one van argue that fact and someone at some point is going to have to care for that person, resuscitate that person preform life saving treatment at thr cost of the tax payer etc. When do we draw the line here. Should we sugar coat it because they are happy with the way they are? There's always extreme points to this argument and somewhere I think there will always be room for discussion. I hope this makes sense 😂
Complicated discussion. In today's society, you are not allowed to do anything anymore cause someone will get offended and call you names. I appreciate you for having the courage to speak openly about such a complicated topic ❤. I support you 100% on this!
When you speak your mind on something that you disagree or agree on something people are so quick to jump at your neck and sometimes think you're evil or selfish or they may call you a narcissist it breaks my heart that we are willing to demonize others because of the way they think people today get so easily offended to the point you might as well not make friends but one day I think society will move past this
I am very curious what is your opinion about Growingananas... I know that you've made a few videos about her. But how is it possible that she is so popular when every single one of her workout contains exactly the same movements (in different order). Duration and intervals are also very similar so I think that it might be very hard to built good endurance. The only thing that changes is...Anna's outfit. I don't want to be mean of course! I just...still don't get it.🤔
I think the fact you are delivering your message with your shirt on and not shirt off speaks volumes that you are not doing this to promote something... nor can we gather if you are fat phobic or skinny phobic. Because we are only able to focus on your words since you are covered up. Many of these fitness advice are given showing their physique to prove they are a voice of reason or an expert in the fitness industry. The fact that you aren't showing off your abs I think means something.
You can be acutely healthy at any size. Size is statistically indicative of relative risk of numerous health outcomes, however. That's perhaps a more comprehensive way of saying it.
I suspect she has issues with malabsorption, hense she is that skinny even with the amount of food she has shown herself eating in past videos. Malabsorption is a serious issue. That doesn’t mean I agree with most of what she spews online about health, diets etc. Just some food for thought, many people don’t actually know the spectrum of how malabsorption can present its self. Also this comment isn’t really related to this video lol.
It does show the flaws of using BMI as a metric by itself, I'm considered obese by BMI too (TBF I'm not nearly as lean as Harry, but my bf% is still lower than average).
Isn’t a phobia a fear? Technically I AM fat phobic but it has nothing to do with other people’s body and life choices 🤷🏻♀️ I’m not going to scream in terror and be highly uncomfortable when I see an obese person in public However I, myself have a fear of being fat, so I don’t eat a lot of junk and I workout.. I’m not “healthy” though and I know that. I drink alcohol, would that mean I’m WaTeRPhoBic 🤦🏻♀️ how about let people live and make their own life choices and not insert yourself where you’re not concerned
This is your 4th video about her in 3 months and you keep repeating the same points over and over. You also keep making videos about mostly female influencers. And you keep re-using the same few '0o0' and '-_-' faces for your thumbnails.
Videos are done based on viewer requests/submissions, and given that 90+% of viewers are women, it has made sense to cater to majority audience, whom typically request content from fellow women content creators since that is what they are consuming themselves. When videos are done on male influencers, they typically haven't done as well, so those videos are comparatively more limited (though you'll find videos where the sexism of Bret Contreras and Ryan Read were called out actually did quite well 🙂).
@@austinhenshaw2140 I understand that the videos are created to garner views, but the optics of focusing on only female influencers are still shady. Calling out sexism of other creators is good, but doesn't absolve you from potentially acting sexist yourself. The thumbnails are still lazy. This channel used to be interesting, offered insight on actually damaging content and had some great workout advice. Now it's monotonous commentary videos that are just long enough to monetize.
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she also recently said in one of her vids that "ugly" ppl would not be s3xually assaulted and called it "ugly privilege" disgusting
I read that too. It was what made me lose any ounce of support permanently. She's been given opportunities to learn and grow and hasn't taken them.
WTF?!? Jesus who says that? Vile
this is such a disrespectful and frankly delusional take
Good point on fatphobia/skinnyphobia and how quickly people can quickly assume negative things about others when we do have certain goals for our bodies (I've been accused of "overcompensating" when I first started lifting and trying to gain weight).
Ily x
Why overcompensating?
You were successful based on pfp :)
Got told the overcompensation comments too because of being a short woman
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I'm Anorexic, but i also suffer from Bulimic symptoms. I'm an artist, Sometimes, I post thumbnails with my hands in them, I cannot tell you how many times I have edited my hands to make them look nicer, I See this horrible blob holding a pen so i edit it until I like it. Does this make me fatphobic? No. This is My own illness and personal biases towards MY OWN BODY. People who label others as fat phobic when they are merely supporting someone's journey towards being healthy is so...stupid honestly. I'm not in recovery yet, But this wednesday as im posting this, hopefully I will be able to start my journey of slowly getting better and gaining some weight back.
Thanks for sharing, I'm hoping the best for you!
I wish you the best of luck and all the strengh in the world. It's gonna be hard work but so worth it. I've been in recovery for a few years. It's gonna be hard to always stay vigilant to not fall back into those behaviours. So please be open with someone in your close sozial group who will also be keeping an eye on you. Ex. When my depression gets worse I stop eating. My partner bring me food I like and small portions over the day. And they never pressure me, but just remind me.
(sorry for any mistakes, english is not my native language )
I just want to say that I wish you the best in your ED recovery and I wish you success in overcoming the voice that I also have in the back of my head that self-criticizes. I believe in you. :)
YOU'VE GOT THIS!!!! You can do this 😤 Even when there are bumps along the way, just remember you are still progressing. Just because you hit a few potholes while driving doesn't mean you stop your car! You just keep continuing your journey :)
ETA: Something I've been really enjoying is practicing centering my thoughts on body neutrality, centering my thoughts on enjoying what I'm doing and who I'm with, rather than how I look. It's a struggle but correcting and rephrasing my negative thoughts consistently has helped my quality of life.
That’s really sad 😂
Her last video is FULL of comments saying "fatphobia is caused by disgust, but skinnyphobia by jealously".
That's so messed up, because it implies that, contrary to being too fat, being too skinny can never reach an unhealthy point.
She even said there's "ugly privilege" because no one will want to assault or harass them. Yikes.
Part of me thinks she believes everyone is jealous of her, or she's persecuted for being thin/pretty.
Thank you for addressing the whole appearance versus health aspect. I have a body that has always been pretty in the eyes of society (90-60-90 anyone 🙄). Yet I am so far from health with several severe illnesses like strong asthma and debilitating chronic migraines among others... I'm absolutely sure that there are millions of overweight people in the world who are healthier than me. Never judge a book by its cover is a really good saying for a reason.
Also you're so right with your thoughts on the constant throwing around of "you're this phobic, you're that phobic" taking away from the actual phobic comments and systemic problems in e.g. our health care system.
Absolutely! I had friends who were fairly overweight but were absolute BEASTS when it came to physical activity. They were really active and could hike circles around everyone else on the trail WHILE carrying 40lb+ packs of camping gear and water.
Excellent discussion! I vote for no labels and “if it’s not your body, it’s not really your business”. And to your point about people doing what’s right for them, as an older woman who is very enthusiastically weight training, I can say that my primary goal isn’t aesthetics. It’s to ensure that I stave off for as long as I can the frailty that robs old people of their independence.
You are so right...when you label people with no thought or understanding it devalues the REAL fatphobia or skinnyphobia. Our society has a lot of twisted attitudes about diet, weight, age and appearance. Sigh... Great video today!!!!!
Oh my God thank you fot saying this. I'm so tired of people labelling regular people as all sorts of problematic for doing normal human things. I'm afraid of saying that I have a good body shape or posting beautiful pics online because I can be labelled as either humble bragging, or triggering someone's body dysmorphia. I saw it online. Please, one's BDD is their and only their response, I must not be villanized for "provoking" it! Most people aren't going to accuse me, but I still haven't overcome that fear yet. For now
As always, I love your honest and informed take on things. I wholeheartedly agree that exterior appearance is not an indicator of interior wellness. I worked out my whole life, have a good diet and have inherent heart disease and high cholesterol. I hope you have great holiday and continue healing!!!
your strength truly is being diplomatic and communicating effectively. you get your point across without sounding preachy or condescending and you can tell it comes from a place of empathy and good intentions. i agree with you on the whole, but i do think there is nuance to these things that people completely gloss over. for example - you post a picture of yourself and like how you look - but why? where do those preferences come from? what does our appearance communicate about ourselves and our lives? people have the right to autonomy over their bodies, and there is a sociological effect of our appearance as well. both are true!
I often think that people project their own insecurities onto other people way too much. Neutral comments are so easily misconstrued into the negative, and concerns can be assigned biases that were never intended. Unfortunately it usually takes one-on-one conversations to clear such things up, which is pretty much impossible on the internet. But more awareness usually helps realizing that external judgments can be much more indicative of the self than others.
Yay thank you Harry!! Brightens my day when you post. ❤
But really, thank you for saying all of this. Many people need to hear it
Guys won’t often be called something-phobic if fitness is to do with appearance, it seems to be a symptom of the double bind women end up in
Engagement things.
I do agree with you on a lot of things you said…but, okay, Chloe really didn’t do anything wrong. My main issues comes from ED recovery spaces, it’s so triggering to see someone go from an underweight body to the same thing and claim recovery, that does make promote body dysmorphia I’d say, and so many people will use their (dangerous) advice because they think they can recover into an ED body too, like Em_fit or Katie, it’s really triggering. That’s part of why I can’t watch Zoe, to me, the parts of her saying that she eats SoOo much, but really only eats twice a day, so of course it seems like more, bother me. She’s playing both sides and to me, it just kind of feels wrong. She has a much bigger appeal then say, Michelle McDaniels for people with restrictive EDs, because she has one and recovered into one. I get that it’s an ED’d persons bodies problem, but that’s who she built her audience off of, the lack of awareness of that is so wrong. So is her saying stuff like she forgot to eat carbs for 6 months or slim leg videos that are body checks. It’s someone who is possibly disordered making content for disordered people that won’t help them at ALL. And her saying stuff like, “oh starving makes you GAIN weight” and that being the main issue is terrible. Why not say it’s bad because it makes you feel terrible or could kill you? Her content also really isn’t high quality, sorry but it’s not. The quality and the citations and the lack of data is concerning, but the reason she’s so popular is because of her “recovered body” with Chloe, it’s an exercise Chanel with the goal of about you to lose fat and build muscle. Someone with anorexia isn’t going to use it, because Chloe is someone with an outwardly healthy body, that’s beautiful, and also not thinspo. That’s why her making it the way it is isn’t bothersome. That’s why when Hanson makes videos about ability, but only has a few about weight loss, no one gets mad. That’s not the point. But people come to Zoe because they want quasi recovery her way, and that’s where my issues lies with her. If she was outwardly pro Ana, at least someone like me, trying to recover, could avoid it. But then she preaches self love, and so it’s going to reach vulnerable people, along with a crowd of disordered people. That’s my issue with her, and yes, it does promote dysmorphia.
I agree with you. Zoe does pay both sides. She prays self love but constantly talks about how to fast to lose weight and her most watched videos are of her crying at a camera because her already very normal sized body is too fat in her opinion and body checks. Then she creates commentary videos judging other people all high and mighty like she has found the answer to the weight loss equation??? She reacted to a criticism video a while back. Her reaction to criticism was literal CRYING. Just today she (20th December 2023) she uploaded a short called the curse of skinny fat. Meaning you have a small frame but you´re a little "puffy". Babe. THIS IS NOT SELF LOVE AND THIS IS VERY MUCH NOT A CURSE WHAT What tf does the curse mean. Omg you can literally have a normal smal frame with a higher fat percentage how is that a curse WHAT
@@Ekklesia2680 You said everything so well! That’s exactly why I don’t like her, she hasn’t found some magical secret to weight loss, she dieted herself down to being underweight and that’s why people love her, they want to do the same and recover like that. Fine. If it was just that then it wouldn’t be as dangerous, but playing both sides is wrong, and she should be stopped, especially the “I was fat thing” I get she probably does have a case of body dysmorphia, but you can’t say that stuff while also having a disordered audience, what happens if someone is in that body while active in and ED? What if that’s their recovery body? Why promote IF to a disordered audience, she needs to be actually careful
I partially agree with you. I think you are right but in the end everything comes down to how you are phrasing it. I had anorexia for many years and then I gained too much weight because of depression and the medication I was taking. Right now I am on a weight loss journey, and it makes me happy every time I lose 1kg. That doesn't make me fat phobic, I don't hate on fat bodies and on fat people. I do hate my body but it has always been the case, no matter my weight. Now, the thing with ZoeUnlimited is that I felt very triggered watching her old videos. It was the way she spoke about her own body that reminded of my self hatred and it felt wrong. However, I have seen many people online who speak about weight loss in a healthy way. It is important to be careful and to approach the subject carefully because it is a very delicate one.
Then we have to look inwards and see how we really feel towards fatness. I hate it on me. I was taught to hate being fat. I was taught it is pretty to be skinny and when I was unhealthily skinny people preaised me for it. Now that is fatphobia. See? Just like we have internalised misoginy we can have internalised fatphobia without being aware of it.
We have to do what is healthy and good for our bodies and our minds. For any weight loss or gain journey I recommend to go to therapy to talk about your feelings too. That way, we can learn to love ourselves more.
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Damn, Harry. This might be the most heat I've seen in one of your responses. And I'm so, so here for it
Great video and great points. I've come to agree with the idea that *sometimes* the broader discourse in so many facets of the online world seems to pathologize everything (not always the case, just sometimes). We live in a moment that has a very binary understanding of things and how our actions fit into some broader scheme. As you said, being told that if you want to have a heavy but lean and muscular physique you're either/both fatphobic/skinnyphobic - or maybe you have your own goals for your own reason, agency outside of that dichotomy? It's a shame that isn't an accepted notion more often, I think there are many people operating outside that framework as they just have goals for their body and life.
Yes. Body autonomy. And support for each other's personal choices.
Nice video Harry! Great discussion to have. Ive heard many opinions on body since I was a child! Needless to say I had body dismorphia most of my adult life. Now at 41 I don't care what others think. A healthy body comes in all shapes and sizes! Im all about accepting yourself for you and self love! Have a great day Harry!
As the old saying goes, “it’s better to be too honest to be polite than too polite to be honest”. Such attempts to shame anyone who thinks differently are outright pathetic. If you can’t live with a different opinion without judging it solely from the standpoint of its confomity to your own opinion you’re immature and quite stupid - and before such identit-arian itch comes around, let me make it very clear that I’m openly stupidphobic…
Good job taking on such a complicated topic. I would be afraid for my thoughts to go on record! We have to live in these bodies, so we get to choose. No hate here.
I really appreciate your opinions on these topics. I'm in a weird space myself where I'm not really... belonging? in most of the default groupings. It's good to feel like at least some gym bros are cool with me being around. I honestly have mostly felt weird judgment from other women? It's confusing. Also got a TON of backlash from creepy fetish dudes but that's an entirely different can of worms. I feel like the body positivity movement started with some good ideas but also needs a complete restart because it's kinda just all around icky in every fetishistic way possible. (for context, I have a lifetime from 18 mos old of ED and was 557 lbs 2 years ago and I've lost 150 lbs and the social pressures that surround these issues are overwhelmingly toxic and are often what causes my short relapses)
This is spot on. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that your worrying about getting to your happy place and haven't got time to worry about others. Those comments come from people who are unhappy and therefore want to burn the bridges or those trying to become happy.
Here's a thought though.... what if by looking the way you want to look then has a profound effect on those around you for example, if you are morbidly obese, 500lbs etc, we all know this is not healthy. No one van argue that fact and someone at some point is going to have to care for that person, resuscitate that person preform life saving treatment at thr cost of the tax payer etc. When do we draw the line here. Should we sugar coat it because they are happy with the way they are? There's always extreme points to this argument and somewhere I think there will always be room for discussion. I hope this makes sense 😂
Complicated discussion. In today's society, you are not allowed to do anything anymore cause someone will get offended and call you names.
I appreciate you for having the courage to speak openly about such a complicated topic ❤. I support you 100% on this!
When you speak your mind on something that you disagree or agree on something people are so quick to jump at your neck and sometimes think you're evil or selfish or they may call you a narcissist it breaks my heart that we are willing to demonize others because of the way they think people today get so easily offended to the point you might as well not make friends but one day I think society will move past this
@@hobbyistfairy1712 yeah, it also breaks my heart. It is like people forgot how to empathize and understand each other...
I am very curious what is your opinion about Growingananas... I know that you've made a few videos about her. But how is it possible that she is so popular when every single one of her workout contains exactly the same movements (in different order). Duration and intervals are also very similar so I think that it might be very hard to built good endurance. The only thing that changes is...Anna's outfit. I don't want to be mean of course! I just...still don't get it.🤔
Might be worth him revisiting her content again? From what I remember she was ranked pretty high by him compared to most others.
I think the fact you are delivering your message with your shirt on and not shirt off speaks volumes that you are not doing this to promote something... nor can we gather if you are fat phobic or skinny phobic. Because we are only able to focus on your words since you are covered up. Many of these fitness advice are given showing their physique to prove they are a voice of reason or an expert in the fitness industry. The fact that you aren't showing off your abs I think means something.
1000% agree with everything you said! great video!
You can be acutely healthy at any size. Size is statistically indicative of relative risk of numerous health outcomes, however. That's perhaps a more comprehensive way of saying it.
I suspect she has issues with malabsorption, hense she is that skinny even with the amount of food she has shown herself eating in past videos. Malabsorption is a serious issue. That doesn’t mean I agree with most of what she spews online about health, diets etc. Just some food for thought, many people don’t actually know the spectrum of how malabsorption can present its self. Also this comment isn’t really related to this video lol.
Can you do a video on core training? 😊
People are just far too insecure
I think you're right on dude
She's missing the mark on her content lately.
I was thin in high school and was bullied but an obese girl in my class. I guess she was skinnyphobic 😂
she was probably projecting her own insecurities
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Hi Wheelofhands!
Good video :)
If you pivot to be a zoey101 recap channel you won't lose my views
Why is it fatphobic to lose weight just cuz you feel better at a lower weight and not specifically health reasons?
Why we need an excuse for this now?
I would never look at you and think obese that’s interesting
It does show the flaws of using BMI as a metric by itself, I'm considered obese by BMI too (TBF I'm not nearly as lean as Harry, but my bf% is still lower than average).
Considered obese by mainstream medical models. I don't think they can be trusted entirely.
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Isn’t a phobia a fear? Technically I AM fat phobic but it has nothing to do with other people’s body and life choices 🤷🏻♀️ I’m not going to scream in terror and be highly uncomfortable when I see an obese person in public However I, myself have a fear of being fat, so I don’t eat a lot of junk and I workout.. I’m not “healthy” though and I know that. I drink alcohol, would that mean I’m WaTeRPhoBic 🤦🏻♀️ how about let people live and make their own life choices and not insert yourself where you’re not concerned
why are all this guy's videos about the issues he has with women in fitness?
This is your 4th video about her in 3 months and you keep repeating the same points over and over. You also keep making videos about mostly female influencers. And you keep re-using the same few '0o0' and '-_-' faces for your thumbnails.
Videos are done based on viewer requests/submissions, and given that 90+% of viewers are women, it has made sense to cater to majority audience, whom typically request content from fellow women content creators since that is what they are consuming themselves. When videos are done on male influencers, they typically haven't done as well, so those videos are comparatively more limited (though you'll find videos where the sexism of Bret Contreras and Ryan Read were called out actually did quite well 🙂).
@@austinhenshaw2140 I understand that the videos are created to garner views, but the optics of focusing on only female influencers are still shady. Calling out sexism of other creators is good, but doesn't absolve you from potentially acting sexist yourself.
The thumbnails are still lazy.
This channel used to be interesting, offered insight on actually damaging content and had some great workout advice. Now it's monotonous commentary videos that are just long enough to monetize.
He is literally agreeing with most of what she's saying here. What is there to criticize here?
@@MrBeetlejuice16 the repetitiveness of his content
@@Ella-ik7bhIt’s probably worth watching videos fully and reading the description before commenting. All the best