Just a tip for others who may try to get an NVMe drive to work: Even if you get an adapter that works, the SSD will be limited to SATA speeds, which caps at around 600 MB/s, so don't waste the money.
That adapter for M2 drive is no use. When you put the M2 to the normal slot that goes to the pci exp. interface, the adapter goes to Sata interface and that is much slower. So this isn't worth the money for that adapter, this little adapter is a bit overpriced... Not to mention that there problems with the adapter limits, some of them won't support the drives well.
After getting a Series X I just couldn't stand using the One X and it's lag and slow load times anymore. I followed the same tutorial you did and absolutely have no regrets (also did the thermal compound replacement). I did find a video to restore the startup splash screen which was super easy even though I had to remove the drive again. It really does make the One X run almost as fast as the Series X just tooling around the menus and what not and games definitely load faster. I've let my kids basically take over the One X while I keep the Series X to myself. If anyone has doubts just do it. The One X should always have shipped with an internal SSD, it really unlocks the capabilities of the hardware.
A 1TB SSD costed about $400 when they released. I know that because I got an XBOX One X and a PS4 Pro at the same time, and realized I couldn't put it in the XBOX ONE X without voiding the warranty. So it went in the PS4 Pro...and the SSD costed the same as the PS4 Pro. Price doesn't bother me (don't even get me started on my PC), but consoles are aimed at the masses.
Just be really careful. When you pull it apart, when you are removing all the screws, be really careful removing the cable with 2 screws in the plate. Easy to gently remove, if you don't notice when pulling it apart you'll break the connector off. This will remove your pairing controller button and the front usb.
Yes you will. LOL Ask me how I know. Doesn't matter, I got a Series S because I couldn't find a X at msrp. The little thing is pretty impressive. Runs better than the One X. I still use the One X, but prefer the S. When I eventually get a X the two will complement each other perfectly.
This happened to me on the Xbox one s, my controller pairing button broke but it doesn’t rly matter to me since I use the cable for my controller all the time and when u connect the cable to your controller from the console it pairs itself automatically to the console also,Thank you for putting it out there.
Great! I did this last week! I installed a Silicon Power 1TB SSD. I knew the Xbox was sata so I didn't try anything else. However, I feel like it was a missed opportunity for you there, you should have replaced the thermal paste! I did that too and my Xbox one x is dead silent now. Cheers
@@retro-unboxing Its amazing! Just like you said it would. It really feels like a new console. I saw improvements in games as well, especially Cyberpunk 2077! Less texture popped and stuttering. Great upgrade
@@retro-unboxing Well, some of the bugs are still present. But overall, on the One X the performance is not that terrible, but it could definitely be better. I did experience the textures loading issues when I had the HDD à few times. However, since the SSD upgrade (and CP2077 installed on the SSD), those issues were resolved. The game it's fun over all! But I'd say get it on sale haha. I purchased mine for 50$ CAD (the game is 91$ CAD taxes in) second hand from a unhappy player... He was playing on the One S however. Cheers!
@@El1988Che I’ll perhaps hang on a bit before I spunk out any cash on it.... Besides the glitches etc, what do you think of the game? Story and playability etc..
I love this idea, I’ve had my Xbox one x since the middle of 2019 and I noticed since day 1 it takes forever to boot up and an ssd will fix that problem.
11:20 it's the thought of having it internal. The OS runs off the internal drive so that is a little faster. Plus, If you take the machine on the road, it's so much easier not to have to drag around a external drive.
The one X actually was designed with an M.2 in mind probably. It has an unused unpopulated M.2 slot on the PCB. Maybe they wanted to go with hybrid fast and slow storage. M.2 boot, HDD storage or like they just canceled it because of upcoming series SX design. X and One X both use vapor chamber cooling plus the casing is of the same better quality. It's probably a marketing move to hype the use of SSD. I own both One X and a series X. The one X holds up pretty nicely.
has anybody tried ti populate the M2. socket on the board? what is the capacity limit on One X is it 26TB?? The system tolerate 4 drives at one time. (3 external + 1 internal) and recall the mex capacity is 8TB for each socket and max 2TB for the internal, so 3x 8 + 2 internal = 26TB. how does the Series X works with external SSD drives... are they valid for modern 4K games? or is it only older less demanding games tou can put on external and you need these properitary Seagate MS drives for 4K games?
I was considering doing that but ended up just running games from external ssd. The same ssd which is now plugged (without formatting etc) straight into my series s for extra memory. I play my Xbox one games from it and use internal for optimised games.
As far as drives are concerned, regardless of what SSD and adapter one uses, the limiting factor is still the SATA 3 connection to the console. I put one of them 2TB Seagate SSHD drives in mine around the same time you did yours and whilst it's still no SSD, it does bring the cold boot time way down from stock (41s as tested last night and it's beyond 80% full) it makes the user interface feel responsive, and it just feel like the drive should have been on the console from day one! seriously though, the 2TB SSHD was probably used in prototypes as the elite has a 1TB variant, the one s had the option of a 2TB regular drive, and there was so much buzz around just how much faster things loaded on the one x during development and initial testing. If I find a game still doesn't load fast enough, I'll just use an external SSD, because USB3 has slightly more available bandwidth than SATA 3, and even if the external drive is SATA based, it still removes the overhead of having to deal with the operating system simultaneously. I find it funny that you forgot to reconnect the fan, as whilst I had mine apart I also replaced the thermal paste between the heatsink and processor. it made my console so damn quiet that I was near convinced I'd forgotten to reconnect the fan, but I figured I'd run the console for a while to see if it overheats. About a week later, I found out there's a location in fallout 76 that makes the one x in it's standard form either howl like a PS4 or flat out overheat, so I went there, and for the first time since the upgrade I actually heard the fan spin up! It still wasn't particularly loud though which is great, so if you're still running the stock thermal paste it's well worth the upgrade 👍 As far as thermal pastes go, I hear MX4 recommended frequently, but I just used some arctic silver 5 I had laying about the place for 4-5 years. Great video by the way
@@retro-unboxing you won't regret it 👍 A few tips though, just take your time with it, and use the line method length ways on the APU. I mean you probably already know, but it's by far the best advice that I've ever been given
Xbox One X is using Sata 3 interface so using any 2400MB/s SSD will reduce speed to 600MB/s because its max of Sata 3 Normally best option is typical 2.5 inch SSD with 550MB/s speed. I also make mod like this on my XOX, system speed and response is superior. Games also working super fast. Good advice to all, when You open X for SSD replace its good also to change thermal paste on GPU. Original is bad quality and always dry. This operation plus cooling mod (from ebay) makes now my console much colder than originally.
i just tried doing this and now my console keeps turning off after a few seconds, i dont know what the hell i did, i also tried putting the original drive in and it still does it, any idea what is causing this or do i have to send it to microsoft? thanks
@@thegr8rambino I’m probably not the best person to ask to be honest! I’m that much of a muppet that I forgot to reconnect the fan! I hope you get it sorted though..
You aren’t going to find a PCIe to SATA adapter. It makes no sense to slow down an NVME drive. There are SATA drives that are M.2 form factor, but they are no faster than a 2.5” SATA drive. The Xbox one/ one s/ one x all use SATA, and there is no advantage to buying a faster drive as the read and write speeds will be limited.
@@Cricis11700 Yes SSD vs. HDD will be fasster, but an NVMe drive is faster than the SATA interface that the xbox one uses. It will not have any advantage over a less expensive SATA 2.5" SSD
@@jasraj_1237 I have had good luck with the Samsung drives. I also use crucial SSDs in my PCs. I’d go for whichever is a good deal for 1TB. You can do the 2TB upgrade but it isn’t as easy.
Great Video! I think is really worth it. The Xbox One X is still a great powerful console, and with the ssd is really good! And for another year (or 2 maybe) you will play new games without no problem.
Thank you! And yes, absolutely. There’s always been some generational crossover, like the 360 to the first Xbox One. But it’s different this time... especially with crossplay, they’re all part of the same ‘eco system’ now...
I did the same upgrade recently. Bought a WD blue 1tb ssd for £80 + new shock blue controller for £45. Both were on sale. It's a very nice upgrade. But still fairly expense so I'm not sure if I would recommend to anyone. If you have to choose between the ssd and the new controller, go for the ssd. The difference is far more noticeable.
@@retro-unboxing only upgrade that controller has that is really important at all is the d-pad if you prefer one over the other. Not sure fully with the share button does but that's the only other real benefit.
I just picked up a used Xbox one X Project Scorpio for 240. Came with rare sea of thieves controller and hard drive 😬 It’s definitely worth the upgrade. I’ll be waiting at least a year to get the series x
The upgrade isn't as good because the sata connection is 2nd generation which actually slows the speed you could just do a ssd to store games on a external ssd which is the better option
The moment you showed that m.2 drive the PC enthusiast in me knew exactly the mistake you'd made. Don't get me wrong, it is probably an easy one to make because there's several different types of drive using that form factor now. A. SATA m.2, B. PCIE-3 nvme m.2, and C. PCIE-4 nvme m.2. You bought one from the second category. When I did my own SSD upgrade on this I went for an 2.5" SATA I had lying around because the X only has SATA 3 speeds anyway. The drive your adaptor would have worked with is a SATA m.2 drive, but you'd still have been throwing good money after bad in that instance since you have to use an adaptor and that's extra money, an extra possible point of failure, and exactly the same speed as the 2.5" drive anyway.
Did you have to format the new ssd to ntfs format? I am asking because I swapped the hdd with an ssd (crucial mx500) and when I trying to install the update I kept getting an error and the update couldn’t be installed.
As a PC builder I agree it is confusing. No, PCIe NVME are not compatible with SATA M.2 or enclosures - they will only work in PCIe M.2 slots on ATX/ITX motherboards or PCIe cards - they are specifically designed to tap into the PCIe lanes of the CPU. The guy on the channel you refer to is looking into a way to solder the M.2 port on to the motherboard of the Xbox One X as there is a space for one which is interesting, but I have heard that this section of the motherboard is disabled - possibly was designed as part of a devkit or other "internal" purpose. To further answer your question M.2 in 2.5 enclosure is still capped at 6gb/s so you gain nothing over an SSD - other than a bit cheaper - but then you have to buy a ten quid enclosure anyway.
Thanks for the empathy!! I think I have my head around it now, but I’m sure something else will be out soon to further confuse things! It really has made a massive difference to the running of the One X, it’s reduced/removed all the OS hangs that I used to get, the OS in general is much faster. I’m glad there’s no benefit from having a faster ssd, I’ll experiment no further! I noticed that he’d discovered the m.2 port.... I imagine it’ll be locked by firmware?
@@retro-unboxing i would imagine it is locked out for the consumer. Im still unsure about whether to do internal or not. I just figured id test it out as an external with a few games first. Little project to do as im now in Tier 4 🙄
@@retro-unboxing you might have guessed i'm in London. ffs - what a sh*tshow. I ordered a spudger/screwdriver set but realised i need a T10 Torx for the Xbox.
Just ordered a 1TB WD Blue M.2 SATA SSD and Orico adaptor from Amazon today. It actually worked out a bit cheaper than buying the equivalent 2.5” SATA SSD. Prices fluctuate all the time though. Fitted a Samsung EVO 860 500GB SSD to the One S I have in the kitchen two days ago as a trial run and game load times do not seem any different compared to the HDD. Not for Borderlands 3 anyway. Still takes 3 days to load!!! Bit disappointed really. Hopefully better results on the One X.
Good stuff. I can’t say for the S, but it most definitely improved the X. I did a comparison video on load times on RDR2…. Not massive, but definitely an improvement…
it's pretty common to not affect games much as they're just too large anyway, my main issue is with the operating system loading when turning it on.. i got a refurbished one s and its annoying having to wait about 2 mins to launch, navigating through the menus sometimes feels slow aswell
I believe the sata connection on Xbox one s is limited to sata 2 where the one x is sata 3, so will see a performance boost from an ssd that the one s won’t
Be careful doing this if you have dev mode or partner. You'll need to clone the old drive as osu won't work. The dev dashboard is newer and of course you can't downgrade
Thanks for highlighting the pitfalls. Agree with you to get the 2.5” SATA SSD first rather than trying PCIe/NVMe - Waste of money on adapters etc. I got the XSX in June 2022 and am underwhelmed, not much difference - the XOX was a great system.
Glad to hear this because I'm trying to decide whether or not to get a Series X and sell my XOX or just try to swap an SSD into my XOX and enjoy it for a few more years.
@@dusty1268 Two things I wish I had kept XOX: 1) With XSX I lost the IR blaster; HDMI CEC sucks in comparison. Laggy and frustrating. 2) I lost 3D blu ray player; the children loved their 3D cartoons, Little Mermaid etc. So sad. Only benefit of XSX to me is the fast loading/quick resume. Meh. 4K differences barely noticeable IMO.
@@izidororaziel4918 The XSX can read normal Blu Ray and 4K UHD discs like the XOX, but the old XOX could also do 3D discs, which the new XSX can't read. It's mental.
are there any difference if I make the ssd portable with enclosure, and not put it directly in my og xbox one.. I watch og xbox one tear down and super confuse for me.. atleast xbox one x kinda look more simple tear down..
@@Nick-4K Excellent! What do you think of the difference in graphics at the minute. The Series X is the first time in ages that I haven’t had the newest console... it didn’t feel like I’m missing out too much..... yet!!
@@retro-unboxing The Series X seems to pop more in graphics and resolution. Like Gears 5 just runs better on Series X than the One X. But the one x is still really good tho.
Nice video and indeed very good upgrade. Also just bought myself an 1tb evo 2,5inch ssd. Put it in a usb 3.0 case and connected in the back of the xbox one x. Formatted via xbox and done. So much easier! Use option 'move games' and everything works great. Don't forget to restart the xbox after formatting, otherwise your are waiting 30min for feedback that's it's done... :-) Speeds should be almost the same as an internal ssd.
Did mine tonight, had no issues, It now takes 1/2 sec boot up time from pressing controller button to main xbox screen on tv. Superfast!!! What a Big difference... Thanks buddy!
@@retro-unboxing thanks, yes I did a fresh install, then updated my games and apps through the xbox account and web. I used a blank the new evo 1tb 870 SSD not the 860 SSD's, there both the same anyway, I didn't copy files over from one drive to another before install. It's wonderful now and extremely quite. Will format the xbox original HHD and used it as spare to hold and transfer data. Thanks
i just tried doing this and now my console keeps turning off after a few seconds, i dont know what the hell i did, i also tried putting the original drive in and it still does it, any idea what is causing this or do i have to send it to microsoft? thanks
@@aris8683 thanks Mike! I’d definitely try to stick to 1tb.... the OS seemed to take up about 230GB iirc.... so even 500GB may only allow you to install 1/2 games!!
@@retro-unboxing It's not how it works. If you have a bigger drive then the space loss compared to the selling capacity is bigger aswell. On a smaller drive your are more close to the selling capacity.
@@retro-unboxing definitely a noticeable visual improvement, I bought a dell 32” Qhd gaming monitor on sale. (www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-32-led-curved-qhd-freesync-monitor-with-hdr-displayport-hdmi-usb/6375331.p?skuId=637533). You can’t see a pixel on the screen. Going from 1080p to 1440p image or 4K because the monitor will upscale to 4K is a huge improvement. Response time is quick too! Would recommend. Thanks for the cool videos man, I watch you on break at work. I’m going to give the ssd a try
@@jakeladd6569 Thank you Jake, I’ve got plenty more to come!! I do mainly use the One X on my living room TV which is 4K 60. I’m certainly curious about higher or vrr performance. I’ll have a look into one of those monitors!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, I know the PS4 is limited for external SSDs by the throughput of USB 3.1 i.e. 625 Mb/sec so those 2,000 + read speeds are overkill for the connection?
Yes, absolutely. The Xbox One X is exactly the same.... anything above 625mbs is bottlenecked. I elected to fit a Samsung SSD that has speeds of around 550mbs. The reason I wanted to explore the M.2 option is they are becoming much cheaper than 2.5" SSD's.... and will be far more useful in the future, if you wanted to transfer the drive into a PS5 or Series X etc....
@@retro-unboxing Regardless of SATA3 (750MB/s) or USB 3.1 (625MB/s) you're never actually going to see those speeds. There's a lot of service overhead such as link management, protocol response and host latency which usually saturate 10-20% of the overall rated performance.
I haven't played Warzone but I will say that any items in other games that didn't load when they should have in the distance because of the slow mechanical drive now load on time (early to me). The SSD won't change the draw distance since that's set by the developers but it will ensure that it loads exactly when they meant it to and that's what I've noticed in other games.
I have a series X and a One X but I don't want to take the Series X with me on the road for fear of it being stolen. I am upgrading my One X right now to a 2TB SSD. Currently I have the physical portion completed. I'm doing the offline update right now so crossing my fingers everything goes well.
Just make sure you run the appropriate patch/scripts so that the firmware recognises the larger drive size (I don't know how to do it - I just know that it needs doing), I believe that if you don't do this it will just show up as 1tb rather than 2tbs... Best of luck!
QQ: The m2 adaptor you mentionned (where you can put 2 m2)., which one it is ? I am curious about this little adapter (especially if it can run in raid)
I've just had a look on Amazon, and its either not there now, or I was mistaken in the first place.... probably the latter! As others have said though, it would be a waste in terms of speed at least for the One X...
@@retro-unboxing raid wouldn't be a waste of speed, it's quite the opposite. That's why I was curious, as I have never seen a raid controller that small. Anyway, good you did some experimentation with all and learnt about different type of M2 adapters (e.g. pci vs sata), that's the best way to learn about those tech :)
I bought one of those Samsung t7 ssd external hard drive. I play most games off it and load times is quicker. Also installing games off disk onto the ssd was quick as well.
Does the operating system install itself when you plug it into the xbox and fire it up. Or do you have to download from micorsoft and use laptop/computer to pre install it before installing into the console?
You have to download it to a PC from Microsoft and then install it from an external usb drive.... there are other methods, like cloning the drive, but I wanted to start with a blank drive....
I wanna upgrade my xbox one x to an a ssd will this ssd work I have a big question I wanna put a ssd on my xbox one x since I can't get a series x. The ssd that I wanna use is Samsung 870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 2TB will it work?
You can get an nvme M2 disc with over 2000 mb/s read/write with casing USB 3.2gen2 USB-C output as external drive for loading the games, but it make no difference over standard sata SSD because the Xbox one X has only USB 3.0 input where you are stuck with max 600 mb/s. The same is for SATA connector inside the xbox one x. It does not make sense to put faster SSD than 600 mb/s since this is limit of the interface. I am thinking about upgrading my Xbox one X with SSD. But I am not sure if it make sense. in few months hopefully series X will be available for the standard price.
Yes, I understand the bottleneck of Sata, but nvme is becoming cheaper to buy than a 2.5” ssd, and may have other uses later on. I would definitely put and ssd inside your Xbox. Kill All Mechanical Drives!
and yea you can use PCI NVMe on the One X.. most of my drives are NVMe as I use them for other thinsg and I just use PCI NVMe to M.2 NVMe to either USB3.1 10Gbps/1000MB (12USD) or USB 3.2 with 20Gbps/2000MB (35USD) M.2 enclosures. You can also get thunderbolt3 40GBps (2500MB) enclosures to use with your One X, but they are quite expensive at around 100USD but you really need to do your own due diligence before going down this rabbit hole. Last night I finally installed a 2.5" SSD in my One X, as the main system drive for the faster boot-up times, and it was the cheapest 50USD 1TB Netac drive i could find on AliE at a sale. (now the boot-up time is around 30 to 35sec)
and you can easily just move all the 700GB volume from the internal storage to an external fx SSD drive.. it goes pretty fast... stays around stays around 1000Mbps to 600Gbps on Xbox progress bar even though the internal is a 5400RPM but even here the read are pretty good., and then when you have flashed the new SSD systemdrive move it back as that goes way faster from SSD to SSD.. Sofar Im a little unsure if the systemdrive SSD is faster the my external SSDs, like it in theory should be sata3 6Gbps versus USB3 5Gbps.
One thing Im not sure about is the capacity on the One X. is the maxmium 18 TB or 26GB?? I reckon 26GB The system can tolerate 4 drives at once, and the limit is 8TB for each of the 3 external drives and the internal has a limit at 2TB. so 3x 8 + 2 = 26TB.. but mayb there is hardware limit like the Series X that can max tolerate 16TB but that is because of the max 2 external drives as I recall?? though I dont now if your somewhat limited on the external drives on Sereis X and its only old games you can install and not new 4K.
No, there’s no banning at all! It’s supported by Microsoft in terms of re-installing the Operating System, so is quite legitimate. I’ve been playing online daily since doing this with no problem. Get it done!! 👍
Iv done it all working, had a little problem with installing the update crashed on me twice but worked the third time round, very happy, only thing was I used a 1tb but only got 781gb out of it, but runs fast so can't really complain, thanks again
@@GJ0012 Excellent!! Good to hear you sorted it... mine also crashed several times during the update - I about shit myself! Yes - the whole 780GB out of 1TB really gets on my tits! Where does all the space go?!?!
I mean..... not quite! The graphics capability of the Series X is loads more powerful. I’ve done this SSD upgrade as a ‘cheap’ stop gap until I can afford a Series X.... and until the games can justify it!
I personally don't recommend doing it unless you have a spare ssd, I used a crucial BX500 not the fastest for sure, but not too far from the Samsung QVO 870, my startup took 41 seconds and I also lost the screen xbox boot but i don't know why, i tried games like Ori and the will of wisp 1 minute 11 seconds, Quantum Break 53 second, Spyro trilogy to get to the screen where you have to choose the game 38 seconds, crash instead 45 from 0 to game started, personally for like Microsoft treated the Xbox One user would not deserve to put an SSD in it not to mention that some games are not even on Xbox instead of on PlayStation 4 pro where they are also better optimized such as Sekiro, Dragon Ball Z Kakaroth, Resident Evil 3, Dark Souls III, Elden ring, on Xbox One there is not. personally I repeat, if you have a surplus ssd then yes but already spending even 50-60€/$ for an SSD even just 1TB in my opinion is wasted.
Lol, you did the same thing as me but for the PS5. Since I couldn't get one I upgraded my PS4 to a 1TB SSD. But I have a Xbox Series X too, and will definitely do this on mine too.
I've tried both pal, had a Samsung t5 for external and crucial 500 for internal. I didn't notice any difference apart from the t5 sometimes had audio issues. So stook with internal.
I tried this using a 2 tb scan disk plus ssd, no problems getting it installed internal wise , but x box start screen and usb offline update icon will not let me click on it to start the update process. The ssd was used by the x box as a external hard drive before doing this and i used x box to re format the drive to take the games off. Is there something missing which i’m doing wrong.
I watched this guy’s tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/SyOOFrBWKsU/v-deo.html My understanding is that you’ll need to run scripts before being able to use 2tb. I used a 1tb to keep things simple and not need to run scripts..
It really does just make the console 'feel' much nicer and snappier doesn't it? The start up is faster, the dashboard is snappier... well worth the effort!
@@retro-unboxing yeah many of us purchased an Xbox one x recently due to the fact that is cheaper and is better in many ways versus the Xbox S. And the Xbox X is 4 times more expensive. So lots of us don't want to jump to t he is x series and make the Xbox one x better instead. I just recelty purchased an xbobox one x scorpio original with box and manuals so is also a collectors item right now. But with the benefits of 4k and most new games. Just a bunch of games are not compatible because they are made for the series X but is not many. Also many xboxb one x owners are waiting for a new Microsoft console and also wait some time to the market testing and after at least one year of its launch then jump to it
Hello and thanks for your great video. I've got now an Xbox one X which can't be any more formatted, as always the same errors come up. That's why I'm planning to buy an ssd to replace the corrupted hdd of the Xbox. Could you please tell me which os should I put on the ssd? Is there a way to put the file in order to tel it work without problem? Thank you very much in advance
The way that I did it, was to put the blank SSD into the xbox, then you have to download the OS update directly from Microsoft and put that on a USB stick or other external hard drive. When you plug that USB stick/external drive into your xbox, it should recognise it as an update disk and do everything else automatically... Honestly, I followed the tutorial that's linked in my description... Let me know how you get on...
@@retro-unboxing do you know what only worries me? I'm trying to see if a Samsung 870 evo (and not 860 evo like the one that you've used) is compatible even if it's newer. I have to buy it today and I find this information nowhere on the web 😐
@@robyganon Make sure to buy a 1tb. No need to worry the 870 evo is 100% compatible, but don't sue me if you have problems ;-) To be honest I would think that you could use pretty much any 2.5" SSD without problem.
@@retro-unboxing ok thanks👍 really tempted to do it as my Xbox Home Screen is running very slow and I can get a 1tb Samsung QVO 870 on Amazon for only £91! just worried about taking the Xbox apart haha
Can anybody link me to an NVME to SATA adapter that works for Xbox One X? I want to experiment with bottlenecking the Xbox's full 600mb/s instead of running on 860 Evo.
You can use a 2tb, but you do have to use a different method that involves running a couple of scripts to tell the Xbox to expect a bigger drive! I haven’t done it myself, can’t help you on that one I’m afraid. The link in my description was to a guy who has done it on his channel...
I installed a 2TB drive and didn't have to do anything special. I simply got the offline installer from Microsoft and all storage was available immediately. If you want to take the extra time to fix the splash screen here is the video and steps I used. Very easy. ua-cam.com/video/nG1VNqVeSt4/v-deo.html
Im 40 . Just realized what a ssd card is the same day i went from 7 -10 mbps to 500 mbps. Just in time for Witcher 3. New Samsung ssd 1 tb in my Series x. Ballin !
IMO I would rather upgrade to a 2tb Ssd would be half the price of a series x (( We did upgrade our Xbox One X to a 1 tb SSD, and found that the drive still needed more room due to hungry eat games)) Best wishes
just use external SSDs the system can tolerwate like 26 TB (will eat 4 drives at once, 1 internal max 2TB + 3 external 8TB each) I actually saw faster progress bar moving the 115GB between two external SSDs.. though one was NVMe, but that shouldnt matter as it is still an USB3 sata3 controller. moving the 115GB horizon file between two external took around 5 minutes and the Xbox One X progres bar peaked at 3.2Gbps, and mving the 115GB file back to teh internal systemdrive last night after I finally installed a cheap 1TB Netac SSD.. it took somewhat longer, and closer to 10min.. the console bootup time is around 30 to 35sec. now but before wiht the original 5400RPM.. just having the games on external SSds I saw up around -80% reduction in loading times.. so its nigh an day, and pop in and loading textures, and frame spikes and all that jazz.. gone.. makes a huge difference
I may end up doing the same thing to my one x but without the thermal paste replacement given the manufacture date on my console is 05/07/2021 so not quite a year old... Even though the one s/x were both discontinued in the mid- to late part of 2020
@@retro-unboxing when i remember correctly you have to clone the hatddrive because there is no other way to get the operating system on the new harddrive
@@chrishalle1982 You can definitely use a blank hard drive…. That’s the way I did it! you download the OS from Microsoft… it’s dead easy. I’m sure I covered it in the video? If I didn’t, the tutorial in the link in the description does…. It’s really quite easy.
I also upgraded it last november (2020). You can use a blank ssd. I think before October 2020 your only option was cloning. But in Oct-Nov 2020 they made it, so we can use a blank drive.
This doesn’t work out as planned.I did a decent amount of homework and found out the fault was deeper than the drive itself and it ultimately does very little for performance. But I will watch anyway.
I upgraded my laptops NvME m.2 and thought I'd try the old 256 stick with my Xbox and had the same experience....couldn't get my Xbox to even recognize it. Glad I tried though USB before tearing my Xbox apart. Thankfully only lost a few dollars for the cheapo enclosure I ordered from aliexpress
Did you work out why this wouldn't work.... with the correct enclosure and cable it should certainly work externally.... I'm juts about to upload a video on external SSD options!
@@retro-unboxing I'm not exactly sure, sorry. It is a cheapo enclosure from Amazon, like $15 bucks... but it's not even detected when I plug it into my Xbox one X. I've tried both file formats, nothing. It does work with my PC laptop, so I'm guessing it's on the Xbox side of things. I'm trying to use it with a 256 SSD NVME
@@retro-unboxing I've also tried putting this 256 gb stick into a cheapo m.2->2.5" enclosure from aliexpress, then put that 2.5" into a 2.5"->USB enclosure that I use on my One X successfully with an old spinning 1tb 2.5". ut doesn't detect. So maybe it's something to do with this particular generation of M.2...or maybe the 256gb size?
@@noahwillson9895 I'm fairly sure that the size (256gb) Is the reason it wouldn't work internally... my understanding is that xbox is flashed to expect a certain size drive - minimum being 500gb Xbox One and One S, and Minimum 1tb for One X. I also believe that 256gb is the minimum for external storage... But you have got it working now?
@@retro-unboxing nah, I was hoping to at least use the 256 stick like a flash drive but no dice...doesn't detect. I get why it might not be detected as an internal drive but I'm surprised it isn't even detecting it as usb storage
Yes NVMe is faster, but the limit of the disk speed i determined by the connection. If you convert a NVMe disk to SATA, it will only allow SATA speed. With that said a SATA SSD is still much faster. I guess this is a bit of topic, but there are different versions of SATA with different speeds. PS3 had SATA I, PS4 has SATA II and i belive PS4 pro and XBOX ONE X have SATA III. Still, upgrading a PS3 with an SSD is an upgrade in disk speed if you have downloaded games, but the preformance gap wont be as great.
@@paulendo4363 to be fair using bootcamp installs Windows onto the MacBook as if it were an actual Windows machine, I’ve installed Steam and run games on it in 4K. Im not a fan of Windows but there’s just a couple of things I need it to do for me every now and then! Once installed you just have to choose the OS at startup..
@@retro-unboxing iam also missing my xbox one boot up animation , i just put the new drive in and used usb to update now boots straight to dash with no 4k animation , does the aninmation come back with a dash update or have i gotto take it out and add extra files via pc
Just a tip for others who may try to get an NVMe drive to work: Even if you get an adapter that works, the SSD will be limited to SATA speeds, which caps at around 600 MB/s, so don't waste the money.
Still faster than the 550-560MB/s that the 2.5" drives run at.
That adapter for M2 drive is no use. When you put the M2 to the normal slot that goes to the pci exp. interface, the adapter goes to Sata interface and that is much slower. So this isn't worth the money for that adapter, this little adapter is a bit overpriced... Not to mention that there problems with the adapter limits, some of them won't support the drives well.
Your right. I was gonna write that statement as well. It would technically be faster using an external 3.0 SSD.
@@josephgage hey what ssd external drive works for xb1x is it just plug and play
Thank you for info.
After getting a Series X I just couldn't stand using the One X and it's lag and slow load times anymore. I followed the same tutorial you did and absolutely have no regrets (also did the thermal compound replacement). I did find a video to restore the startup splash screen which was super easy even though I had to remove the drive again. It really does make the One X run almost as fast as the Series X just tooling around the menus and what not and games definitely load faster. I've let my kids basically take over the One X while I keep the Series X to myself. If anyone has doubts just do it. The One X should always have shipped with an internal SSD, it really unlocks the capabilities of the hardware.
I let the kids use my one x too but I recently got the gears 5 limited edition one x so I'm gonna try this out for the longterm
A 1TB SSD costed about $400 when they released.
I know that because I got an XBOX One X and a PS4 Pro at the same time, and realized I couldn't put it in the XBOX ONE X without voiding the warranty. So it went in the PS4 Pro...and the SSD costed the same as the PS4 Pro.
Price doesn't bother me (don't even get me started on my PC), but consoles are aimed at the masses.
you get the startup back once you need to update the firmware anyway
Just be really careful. When you pull it apart, when you are removing all the screws, be really careful removing the cable with 2 screws in the plate. Easy to gently remove, if you don't notice when pulling it apart you'll break the connector off. This will remove your pairing controller button and the front usb.
Yes you will. LOL Ask me how I know. Doesn't matter, I got a Series S because I couldn't find a X at msrp. The little thing is pretty impressive. Runs better than the One X. I still use the One X, but prefer the S. When I eventually get a X the two will complement each other perfectly.
This happened to me on the Xbox one s, my controller pairing button broke but it doesn’t rly matter to me since I use the cable for my controller all the time and when u connect the cable to your controller from the console it pairs itself automatically to the console also,Thank you for putting it out there.
Just for the headache you went through, you deserve a thumb up. Lol
yeah, a thumb up the arse
He’s right got mine switched for and ssd it flies now
@Elon Xzavier lmao, I can smell a shitty relationship
Great! I did this last week! I installed a Silicon Power 1TB SSD. I knew the Xbox was sata so I didn't try anything else. However, I feel like it was a missed opportunity for you there, you should have replaced the thermal paste! I did that too and my Xbox one x is dead silent now. Cheers
I agree. I definitely regret not doing it... i may do it soon.
How are you liking the extra speed from the ssd??
@@retro-unboxing Its amazing! Just like you said it would. It really feels like a new console. I saw improvements in games as well, especially Cyberpunk 2077! Less texture popped and stuttering. Great upgrade
@@El1988Che How is Cyberpunk running for you? I avoided buying it for obvious reasons!
@@retro-unboxing Well, some of the bugs are still present. But overall, on the One X the performance is not that terrible, but it could definitely be better. I did experience the textures loading issues when I had the HDD à few times. However, since the SSD upgrade (and CP2077 installed on the SSD), those issues were resolved. The game it's fun over all! But I'd say get it on sale haha. I purchased mine for 50$ CAD (the game is 91$ CAD taxes in) second hand from a unhappy player... He was playing on the One S however. Cheers!
@@El1988Che I’ll perhaps hang on a bit before I spunk out any cash on it....
Besides the glitches etc, what do you think of the game? Story and playability etc..
I love this idea, I’ve had my Xbox one x since the middle of 2019 and I noticed since day 1 it takes forever to boot up and an ssd will fix that problem.
It definitely will! 👍
Just a tip, you know you can change between between booting from completely off to quick booting in the settings? Boots up in no time!
11:20 it's the thought of having it internal. The OS runs off the internal drive so that is a little faster. Plus, If you take the machine on the road, it's so much easier not to have to drag around a external drive.
The one X actually was designed with an M.2 in mind probably. It has an unused unpopulated M.2 slot on the PCB. Maybe they wanted to go with hybrid fast and slow storage. M.2 boot, HDD storage or like they just canceled it because of upcoming series SX design. X and One X both use vapor chamber cooling plus the casing is of the same better quality. It's probably a marketing move to hype the use of SSD. I own both One X and a series X. The one X holds up pretty nicely.
has anybody tried ti populate the M2. socket on the board?
what is the capacity limit on One X is it 26TB??
The system tolerate 4 drives at one time. (3 external + 1 internal) and recall the mex capacity is 8TB for each socket and max 2TB for the internal, so 3x 8 + 2 internal = 26TB.
how does the Series X works with external SSD drives... are they valid for modern 4K games? or is it only older less demanding games tou can put on external and you need these properitary Seagate MS drives for 4K games?
Indeed. I play in both consoles, Series X is far superior but overall the One X delivers the goods
Glad to see somebody upgrading the ssd on an X with an actual good ssd not a 20 dollar one, lol. Good video.
I was considering doing that but ended up just running games from external ssd. The same ssd which is now plugged (without formatting etc) straight into my series s for extra memory. I play my Xbox one games from it and use internal for optimised games.
Thanks dude, I had plans to upgrade but now after watching your vid I will.
As far as drives are concerned, regardless of what SSD and adapter one uses, the limiting factor is still the SATA 3 connection to the console.
I put one of them 2TB Seagate SSHD drives in mine around the same time you did yours and whilst it's still no SSD, it does bring the cold boot time way down from stock (41s as tested last night and it's beyond 80% full) it makes the user interface feel responsive, and it just feel like the drive should have been on the console from day one! seriously though, the 2TB SSHD was probably used in prototypes as the elite has a 1TB variant, the one s had the option of a 2TB regular drive, and there was so much buzz around just how much faster things loaded on the one x during development and initial testing.
If I find a game still doesn't load fast enough, I'll just use an external SSD, because USB3 has slightly more available bandwidth than SATA 3, and even if the external drive is SATA based, it still removes the overhead of having to deal with the operating system simultaneously.
I find it funny that you forgot to reconnect the fan, as whilst I had mine apart I also replaced the thermal paste between the heatsink and processor.
it made my console so damn quiet that I was near convinced I'd forgotten to reconnect the fan, but I figured I'd run the console for a while to see if it overheats. About a week later, I found out there's a location in fallout 76 that makes the one x in it's standard form either howl like a PS4 or flat out overheat, so I went there, and for the first time since the upgrade I actually heard the fan spin up! It still wasn't particularly loud though which is great, so if you're still running the stock thermal paste it's well worth the upgrade 👍
As far as thermal pastes go, I hear MX4 recommended frequently, but I just used some arctic silver 5 I had laying about the place for 4-5 years.
Great video by the way
Thanks for taking the time to comment! My fan has recently gotten rather loud so maybe it is thermal paste time!!
@@retro-unboxing you won't regret it 👍
A few tips though, just take your time with it, and use the line method length ways on the APU. I mean you probably already know, but it's by far the best advice that I've ever been given
Xbox One X is using Sata 3 interface so using any 2400MB/s SSD will reduce speed to 600MB/s because its max of Sata 3
Normally best option is typical 2.5 inch SSD with 550MB/s speed.
I also make mod like this on my XOX, system speed and response is superior. Games also working super fast.
Good advice to all, when You open X for SSD replace its good also to change thermal paste on GPU. Original is bad quality and always dry. This operation plus cooling mod (from ebay) makes now my console much colder than originally.
I may re-paste the chips at some point....
What’s the cooling mod you mention?
i just tried doing this and now my console keeps turning off after a few seconds, i dont know what the hell i did, i also tried putting the original drive in and it still does it, any idea what is causing this or do i have to send it to microsoft? thanks
@@thegr8rambino I’m probably not the best person to ask to be honest! I’m that much of a muppet that I forgot to reconnect the fan! I hope you get it sorted though..
@@retro-unboxing yea i forgot to reconnect it too, but even after i reconnected it it still does this. Thank you anyways
You aren’t going to find a PCIe to SATA adapter. It makes no sense to slow down an NVME drive. There are SATA drives that are M.2 form factor, but they are no faster than a 2.5” SATA drive. The Xbox one/ one s/ one x all use SATA, and there is no advantage to buying a faster drive as the read and write speeds will be limited.
There is an advantage games load quicker and so do textures ive noticed.
@@Cricis11700 Yes SSD vs. HDD will be fasster, but an NVMe drive is faster than the SATA interface that the xbox one uses. It will not have any advantage over a less expensive SATA 2.5" SSD
@@reddragon042391 I'm going to try to upgrade mine, so which would you recommend? I already know km getting either the 860/870 evo or mx500
@@jasraj_1237 I have had good luck with the Samsung drives. I also use crucial SSDs in my PCs.
I’d go for whichever is a good deal for 1TB. You can do the 2TB upgrade but it isn’t as easy.
@@reddragon042391 thank you
Great Video! I think is really worth it. The Xbox One X is still a great powerful console, and with the ssd is really good! And for another year (or 2 maybe) you will play new games without no problem.
Thank you! And yes, absolutely. There’s always been some generational crossover, like the 360 to the first Xbox One. But it’s different this time... especially with crossplay, they’re all part of the same ‘eco system’ now...
I did the same upgrade recently. Bought a WD blue 1tb ssd for £80 + new shock blue controller for £45. Both were on sale. It's a very nice upgrade. But still fairly expense so I'm not sure if I would recommend to anyone. If you have to choose between the ssd and the new controller, go for the ssd. The difference is far more noticeable.
100% Agree. To be honest I actually sold the controller, because it was no upgrade from my old one...
my offline update just fails on my one s...
@@retro-unboxing only upgrade that controller has that is really important at all is the d-pad if you prefer one over the other. Not sure fully with the share button does but that's the only other real benefit.
Give this man a few subs he deserves it❗
Great job on the video man! Keep up the great work!
Thanks Garrett! I’ll certainly try!
I’m going to do this as well (because i can’t afford a Series X) currently on a one S but i would love a One X in robot white
I’m sure it will make just as meaningful an upgrade for the One S as it does the One X!
I just picked up a used Xbox one X Project Scorpio for 240. Came with rare sea of thieves controller and hard drive 😬 It’s definitely worth the upgrade. I’ll be waiting at least a year to get the series x
@@jason7078 there really isn’t a big jump in graphics to the series x........ yet!! It will be a year before it’s a meaningful upgrade.
The upgrade isn't as good because the sata connection is 2nd generation which actually slows the speed you could just do a ssd to store games on a external ssd which is the better option
@@samuelruiz7377 An SSD is vastly superior to a mechanical HDD. An external SSD doesn’t change the fact that there’s a HDD in your Xbox!
Has your Xbox Live account or console been banned from Xbox Live after doing this upgrade?
The moment you showed that m.2 drive the PC enthusiast in me knew exactly the mistake you'd made. Don't get me wrong, it is probably an easy one to make because there's several different types of drive using that form factor now. A. SATA m.2, B. PCIE-3 nvme m.2, and C. PCIE-4 nvme m.2. You bought one from the second category.
When I did my own SSD upgrade on this I went for an 2.5" SATA I had lying around because the X only has SATA 3 speeds anyway. The drive your adaptor would have worked with is a SATA m.2 drive, but you'd still have been throwing good money after bad in that instance since you have to use an adaptor and that's extra money, an extra possible point of failure, and exactly the same speed as the 2.5" drive anyway.
green Xbox startup screen < you wil get this back with the next dash update
It’s back!!! 😀😀
You inspired me the same year to do this to my one X, i put same ssd in and repasted it with Noctua NT-H2
Did you have to format the new ssd to ntfs format?
I am asking because I swapped the hdd with an ssd (crucial mx500) and when I trying to install the update I kept getting an error and the update couldn’t be installed.
As a PC builder I agree it is confusing. No, PCIe NVME are not compatible with SATA M.2 or enclosures - they will only work in PCIe M.2 slots on ATX/ITX motherboards or PCIe cards - they are specifically designed to tap into the PCIe lanes of the CPU. The guy on the channel you refer to is looking into a way to solder the M.2 port on to the motherboard of the Xbox One X as there is a space for one which is interesting, but I have heard that this section of the motherboard is disabled - possibly was designed as part of a devkit or other "internal" purpose. To further answer your question M.2 in 2.5 enclosure is still capped at 6gb/s so you gain nothing over an SSD - other than a bit cheaper - but then you have to buy a ten quid enclosure anyway.
Thanks for the empathy!! I think I have my head around it now, but I’m sure something else will be out soon to further confuse things!
It really has made a massive difference to the running of the One X, it’s reduced/removed all the OS hangs that I used to get, the OS in general is much faster. I’m glad there’s no benefit from having a faster ssd, I’ll experiment no further!
I noticed that he’d discovered the m.2 port.... I imagine it’ll be locked by firmware?
@@retro-unboxing i would imagine it is locked out for the consumer. Im still unsure about whether to do internal or not. I just figured id test it out as an external with a few games first. Little project to do as im now in Tier 4 🙄
@@JohnDavidSullivan internal all the way!! Don’t get me started on the Tier system... I’m in rural Derbyshire in Tier 3! 😂
@@retro-unboxing you might have guessed i'm in London. ffs - what a sh*tshow. I ordered a spudger/screwdriver set but realised i need a T10 Torx for the Xbox.
This is a great video! I needed a laugh after a shit day at work!!! I just did my xbox
Just ordered a 1TB WD Blue M.2 SATA SSD and Orico adaptor from Amazon today. It actually worked out a bit cheaper than buying the equivalent 2.5” SATA SSD. Prices fluctuate all the time though. Fitted a Samsung EVO 860 500GB SSD to the One S I have in the kitchen two days ago as a trial run and game load times do not seem any different compared to the HDD. Not for Borderlands 3 anyway. Still takes 3 days to load!!! Bit disappointed really. Hopefully better results on the One X.
Good stuff. I can’t say for the S, but it most definitely improved the X. I did a comparison video on load times on RDR2…. Not massive, but definitely an improvement…
it's pretty common to not affect games much as they're just too large anyway, my main issue is with the operating system loading when turning it on.. i got a refurbished one s and its annoying having to wait about 2 mins to launch, navigating through the menus sometimes feels slow aswell
I believe the sata connection on Xbox one s is limited to sata 2 where the one x is sata 3, so will see a performance boost from an ssd that the one s won’t
1st time viewer. I like this guy ha.
I am happy to finally se which SSD to put in my Xbox. Thank you
I think an upgraded one X is enough for most of us anyway
Be careful doing this if you have dev mode or partner. You'll need to clone the old drive as osu won't work. The dev dashboard is newer and of course you can't downgrade
Thanks for highlighting the pitfalls. Agree with you to get the 2.5” SATA SSD first rather than trying PCIe/NVMe - Waste of money on adapters etc.
I got the XSX in June 2022 and am underwhelmed, not much difference - the XOX was a great system.
Glad to hear this because I'm trying to decide whether or not to get a Series X and sell my XOX or just try to swap an SSD into my XOX and enjoy it for a few more years.
@@dusty1268 Two things I wish I had kept XOX: 1) With XSX I lost the IR blaster; HDMI CEC sucks in comparison. Laggy and frustrating. 2) I lost 3D blu ray player; the children loved their 3D cartoons, Little Mermaid etc. So sad. Only benefit of XSX to me is the fast loading/quick resume. Meh. 4K differences barely noticeable IMO.
@@Carl-Camera it's not the same drive?
@@dusty1268 you should keep them both. Xbox One X is a really good hardware. But Series is the Near Future
@@izidororaziel4918 The XSX can read normal Blu Ray and 4K UHD discs like the XOX, but the old XOX could also do 3D discs, which the new XSX can't read. It's mental.
are there any difference if I make the ssd portable with enclosure, and not put it directly in my og xbox one.. I watch og xbox one tear down and super confuse for me.. atleast xbox one x kinda look more simple tear down..
The Elite series controller is a next level upgrade 🎮💯😎😳
This is what I'm going to do too. Got a really solid deal on a white one x. So I'm upgrading it's ssd
Best of luck! Let us know how you get on...
@@retro-unboxing it works great. I actually managed to get a Series X about a week after. Their speeds are really comparable.
@@Nick-4K Excellent!
What do you think of the difference in graphics at the minute. The Series X is the first time in ages that I haven’t had the newest console... it didn’t feel like I’m missing out too much..... yet!!
@@retro-unboxing The Series X seems to pop more in graphics and resolution. Like Gears 5 just runs better on Series X than the One X. But the one x is still really good tho.
I put a 1 tb ssd in mine and my sons it night and day the speed difference Glad we made the step up .
Nice video and indeed very good upgrade. Also just bought myself an 1tb evo 2,5inch ssd. Put it in a usb 3.0 case and connected in the back of the xbox one x. Formatted via xbox and done. So much easier! Use option 'move games' and everything works great. Don't forget to restart the xbox after formatting, otherwise your are waiting 30min for feedback that's it's done... :-) Speeds should be almost the same as an internal ssd.
Did mine tonight, had no issues, It now takes 1/2 sec boot up time from pressing controller button to main xbox screen on tv. Superfast!!! What a Big difference... Thanks buddy!
Hi Abdul, glad you've done yours too! Did you use a blank drive and do a fresh install?
@@retro-unboxing thanks, yes I did a fresh install, then updated my games and apps through the xbox account and web. I used a blank the new evo 1tb 870 SSD not the 860 SSD's, there both the same anyway, I didn't copy files over from one drive to another before install. It's wonderful now and extremely quite. Will format the xbox original HHD and used it as spare to hold and transfer data. Thanks
The green Xbox startup startup screen returns after the following monthly update. I got it back after the end of September update.
i just tried doing this and now my console keeps turning off after a few seconds, i dont know what the hell i did, i also tried putting the original drive in and it still does it, any idea what is causing this or do i have to send it to microsoft? thanks
did you checked if cooling fan is connected, if fan is disconnected, then it would keep shutting itself down.
@@mhbr at first it got disconnected but then i reconnected and it still did the same thing
Is this possible with a 250GB SSD? Can't get my hands on a 1TB one right now.
No Mike... 500GB is the minimum..
@@retro-unboxing Welp, guess I have to wait for a bit :) Your videos are awesome btw!
@@aris8683 thanks Mike! I’d definitely try to stick to 1tb.... the OS seemed to take up about 230GB iirc.... so even 500GB may only allow you to install 1/2 games!!
@@retro-unboxing It's not how it works. If you have a bigger drive then the space loss compared to the selling capacity is bigger aswell.
On a smaller drive your are more close to the selling capacity.
@@VDani16 ok... so that’s the theory. What were you left with when installing a 250gb ssd in an Xbox one x?
I just upgraded my monitor to a 1440p 165hz display. The Xbox one x is still a powerful machine
I have been tempted... what’s the performance like?
@@retro-unboxing definitely a noticeable visual improvement, I bought a dell 32” Qhd gaming monitor on sale. (www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-32-led-curved-qhd-freesync-monitor-with-hdr-displayport-hdmi-usb/6375331.p?skuId=637533). You can’t see a pixel on the screen. Going from 1080p to 1440p image or 4K because the monitor will upscale to 4K is a huge improvement. Response time is quick too! Would recommend. Thanks for the cool videos man, I watch you on break at work. I’m going to give the ssd a try
@@jakeladd6569 Thank you Jake, I’ve got plenty more to come!!
I do mainly use the One X on my living room TV which is 4K 60. I’m certainly curious about higher or vrr performance.
I’ll have a look into one of those monitors!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, I know the PS4 is limited for external SSDs by the throughput of USB 3.1 i.e. 625 Mb/sec so those 2,000 + read speeds are overkill for the connection?
Yes, absolutely. The Xbox One X is exactly the same.... anything above 625mbs is bottlenecked. I elected to fit a Samsung SSD that has speeds of around 550mbs.
The reason I wanted to explore the M.2 option is they are becoming much cheaper than 2.5" SSD's.... and will be far more useful in the future, if you wanted to transfer the drive into a PS5 or Series X etc....
@@retro-unboxing Regardless of SATA3 (750MB/s) or USB 3.1 (625MB/s) you're never actually going to see those speeds. There's a lot of service overhead such as link management, protocol response and host latency which usually saturate 10-20% of the overall rated performance.
@@cdlink14 SATA III is 600
Appreciate the video but i have a question, does installing ssd on one x improve the draw distance in warzone?
Sorry, not a clue,
Anyone?
I haven't played Warzone but I will say that any items in other games that didn't load when they should have in the distance because of the slow mechanical drive now load on time (early to me). The SSD won't change the draw distance since that's set by the developers but it will ensure that it loads exactly when they meant it to and that's what I've noticed in other games.
@@jcfan1979 awesome. thanks bro
I have a series X and a One X but I don't want to take the Series X with me on the road for fear of it being stolen. I am upgrading my One X right now to a 2TB SSD. Currently I have the physical portion completed. I'm doing the offline update right now so crossing my fingers everything goes well.
Just make sure you run the appropriate patch/scripts so that the firmware recognises the larger drive size (I don't know how to do it - I just know that it needs doing), I believe that if you don't do this it will just show up as 1tb rather than 2tbs... Best of luck!
QQ: The m2 adaptor you mentionned (where you can put 2 m2)., which one it is ? I am curious about this little adapter (especially if it can run in raid)
I've just had a look on Amazon, and its either not there now, or I was mistaken in the first place.... probably the latter! As others have said though, it would be a waste in terms of speed at least for the One X...
@@retro-unboxing raid wouldn't be a waste of speed, it's quite the opposite. That's why I was curious, as I have never seen a raid controller that small.
Anyway, good you did some experimentation with all and learnt about different type of M2 adapters (e.g. pci vs sata), that's the best way to learn about those tech :)
@@OfficialEthern1ty continue to educate me.... how would a raid arrangement of ssd’s help the speed in an Xbox one x?
I bought one of those Samsung t7 ssd external hard drive. I play most games off it and load times is quicker. Also installing games off disk onto the ssd was quick as well.
I'm running a Western digital blue 1tb ssd internal also a Ravpower 1tb ssd external and bought a $10 external enclosure for the stock xbox one x HDD.
That’s the way to do it!!
There is ways of getting the startup screens back! you might find the files and location on google :3
Does the operating system install itself when you plug it into the xbox and fire it up. Or do you have to download from micorsoft and use laptop/computer to pre install it before installing into the console?
You have to download it to a PC from Microsoft and then install it from an external usb drive.... there are other methods, like cloning the drive, but I wanted to start with a blank drive....
I wanna upgrade my xbox one x to an a ssd will this ssd work I have a big question I wanna put a ssd on my xbox one x since I can't get a series x. The ssd that I wanna use is Samsung 870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 2TB will it work?
Thank you for the help. I was given an xbox one and will be upgrading it asap
You can get an nvme M2 disc with over 2000 mb/s read/write with casing USB 3.2gen2 USB-C output as external drive for loading the games, but it make no difference over standard sata SSD because the Xbox one X has only USB 3.0 input where you are stuck with max 600 mb/s. The same is for SATA connector inside the xbox one x. It does not make sense to put faster SSD than 600 mb/s since this is limit of the interface. I am thinking about upgrading my Xbox one X with SSD. But I am not sure if it make sense. in few months hopefully series X will be available for the standard price.
Yes, I understand the bottleneck of Sata, but nvme is becoming cheaper to buy than a 2.5” ssd, and may have other uses later on.
I would definitely put and ssd inside your Xbox. Kill All Mechanical Drives!
and yea you can use PCI NVMe on the One X.. most of my drives are NVMe as I use them for other thinsg and I just use PCI NVMe to M.2 NVMe to either USB3.1 10Gbps/1000MB (12USD) or USB 3.2 with 20Gbps/2000MB (35USD) M.2 enclosures.
You can also get thunderbolt3 40GBps (2500MB) enclosures to use with your One X, but they are quite expensive at around 100USD
but you really need to do your own due diligence before going down this rabbit hole.
Last night I finally installed a 2.5" SSD in my One X, as the main system drive for the faster boot-up times, and it was the cheapest 50USD 1TB Netac drive i could find on AliE at a sale. (now the boot-up time is around 30 to 35sec)
and you can easily just move all the 700GB volume from the internal storage to an external fx SSD drive.. it goes pretty fast... stays around stays around 1000Mbps to 600Gbps on Xbox progress bar even though the internal is a 5400RPM but even here the read are pretty good., and then when you have flashed the new SSD systemdrive move it back as that goes way faster from SSD to SSD..
Sofar Im a little unsure if the systemdrive SSD is faster the my external SSDs, like it in theory should be sata3 6Gbps versus USB3 5Gbps.
One thing Im not sure about is the capacity on the One X.
is the maxmium 18 TB or 26GB?? I reckon 26GB
The system can tolerate 4 drives at once, and the limit is 8TB for each of the 3 external drives and the internal has a limit at 2TB.
so 3x 8 + 2 = 26TB.. but mayb there is hardware limit like the Series X that can max tolerate 16TB but that is because of the max 2 external drives as I recall?? though I dont now if your somewhat limited on the external drives on Sereis X and its only old games you can install and not new 4K.
I'm thinking of doing this with my xbox but will you get banned? Can you still play online with no problem?
No, there’s no banning at all! It’s supported by Microsoft in terms of re-installing the Operating System, so is quite legitimate. I’ve been playing online daily since doing this with no problem. Get it done!! 👍
Thanks for getting back so quickly, that's good to know was a little worried about doing it but I'm going to go for it, thanks again
@@GJ0012 Good luck! let us know how you get on!!!
Iv done it all working, had a little problem with installing the update crashed on me twice but worked the third time round, very happy, only thing was I used a 1tb but only got 781gb out of it, but runs fast so can't really complain, thanks again
@@GJ0012 Excellent!! Good to hear you sorted it... mine also crashed several times during the update - I about shit myself! Yes - the whole 780GB out of 1TB really gets on my tits! Where does all the space go?!?!
You should get your start up screen back when you install the next Xbox update release
Then not is a big change in buy a series x if i already got a xboxone x? only with put a SSD and thats all?
I mean..... not quite! The graphics capability of the Series X is loads more powerful. I’ve done this SSD upgrade as a ‘cheap’ stop gap until I can afford a Series X.... and until the games can justify it!
I personally don't recommend doing it unless you have a spare ssd, I used a crucial BX500 not the fastest for sure, but not too far from the Samsung QVO 870, my startup took 41 seconds and I also lost the screen xbox boot but i don't know why, i tried games like Ori and the will of wisp 1 minute 11 seconds, Quantum Break 53 second, Spyro trilogy to get to the screen where you have to choose the game 38 seconds, crash instead 45 from 0 to game started, personally for like Microsoft treated the Xbox One user would not deserve to put an SSD in it not to mention that some games are not even on Xbox instead of on PlayStation 4 pro where they are also better optimized such as Sekiro, Dragon Ball Z Kakaroth, Resident Evil 3, Dark Souls III, Elden ring, on Xbox One there is not. personally I repeat, if you have a surplus ssd then yes but already spending even 50-60€/$ for an SSD even just 1TB in my opinion is wasted.
Dreamcast Arcade Stick cameo, great stuff.
Lol, you did the same thing as me but for the PS5. Since I couldn't get one I upgraded my PS4 to a 1TB SSD.
But I have a Xbox Series X too, and will definitely do this on mine too.
Series x already has a custom nvme ssd with great optimisation. Changing the ssd would only ruin the performance because the others are not optimised
@@tenidas7345 I think he might've meant he has a One X too
Huh? Why do that to your series x?
Can you weigh the benefit of the internal install vs a USB SSD just for games?
I've tried both pal, had a Samsung t5 for external and crucial 500 for internal. I didn't notice any difference apart from the t5 sometimes had audio issues. So stook with internal.
@@maryhinge40 thank you!
benifit; faster load times
Cons: against Xbox TOS and is bannable by console banning and banning you account for modded hardware
Did you have to write all the scripts on the new SSD?
No
I just bought a xbox one x custom 2tb hybrid hdd/ssd and idk what it means
I tried this using a 2 tb scan disk plus ssd, no problems getting it installed internal wise , but x box start screen and usb offline update icon will not let me click on it to start the update process.
The ssd was used by the x box as a external hard drive before doing this and i used x box to re format the drive to take the games off.
Is there something missing which i’m doing wrong.
I watched this guy’s tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/SyOOFrBWKsU/v-deo.html
My understanding is that you’ll need to run scripts before being able to use 2tb.
I used a 1tb to keep things simple and not need to run scripts..
Retro Unboxing Ok thanks will give that ago.
@@stuart4176 best of luck chap, keep us posted on your progress!
im using evo but when i connect it to console my wifi stops working untill i unplug it out ...
How bizarre!!???
I put an ssd in my XboneX and comparing the load times on Dragon Quest XI to the the old hdd and later sshd the ssd gave me the fastest.
It really does just make the console 'feel' much nicer and snappier doesn't it? The start up is faster, the dashboard is snappier... well worth the effort!
so in resume youo just put a 2Tb SSD and that´s all ? no software no downloading drivers, no fancy fomraitng , it is jusy plug and play ?
No. No of those things are correct.
@@retro-unboxing thank you for clarifying because the video doesnt explain well
@@ShadowlordDio My pleasure, I felt that I owed it to you after your polite and articulate query, keeping my 3 year old upload alive :-)
@@retro-unboxing yeah many of us purchased an Xbox one x recently due to the fact that is cheaper and is better in many ways versus the Xbox S. And the Xbox X is 4 times more expensive. So lots of us don't want to jump to t he is x series and make the Xbox one x better instead. I just recelty purchased an xbobox one x scorpio original with box and manuals so is also a collectors item right now. But with the benefits of 4k and most new games. Just a bunch of games are not compatible because they are made for the series X but is not many. Also many xboxb one x owners are waiting for a new Microsoft console and also wait some time to the market testing and after at least one year of its launch then jump to it
Hello and thanks for your great video. I've got now an Xbox one X which can't be any more formatted, as always the same errors come up. That's why I'm planning to buy an ssd to replace the corrupted hdd of the Xbox. Could you please tell me which os should I put on the ssd? Is there a way to put the file in order to tel it work without problem? Thank you very much in advance
The way that I did it, was to put the blank SSD into the xbox, then you have to download the OS update directly from Microsoft and put that on a USB stick or other external hard drive. When you plug that USB stick/external drive into your xbox, it should recognise it as an update disk and do everything else automatically... Honestly, I followed the tutorial that's linked in my description...
Let me know how you get on...
@@retro-unboxing do you know what only worries me? I'm trying to see if a Samsung 870 evo (and not 860 evo like the one that you've used) is compatible even if it's newer. I have to buy it today and I find this information nowhere on the web 😐
@@robyganon Make sure to buy a 1tb.
No need to worry the 870 evo is 100% compatible, but don't sue me if you have problems ;-)
To be honest I would think that you could use pretty much any 2.5" SSD without problem.
So far I have that controller and Xbox.
I’m hopeful.
I’m thinking of doing this to my Xbox one x what is the Samsung ssd model you used ?
Hi Josh, I used a QVO 860... but literally any SSD will do the job! 1tb 500mbps+ you can’t go wrong!
@@retro-unboxing ok thanks👍 really tempted to do it as my Xbox Home Screen is running very slow and I can get a 1tb Samsung QVO 870 on Amazon for only £91! just worried about taking the Xbox apart haha
@@josh8747 indeed!!! If i can do it, I’m sure you can too... just make sure you have the correct screwdrivers!
Can anybody link me to an NVME to SATA adapter that works for Xbox One X? I want to experiment with bottlenecking the Xbox's full 600mb/s instead of running on 860 Evo.
Haha love the Title of your video ...
I have a Samsung T7 2tb it’s pretty good ..
I have a 2tb ssd that I want to install internally to my one X. how do I make it work. Any difference than your tutorial installing the 1tb????
You can use a 2tb, but you do have to use a different method that involves running a couple of scripts to tell the Xbox to expect a bigger drive! I haven’t done it myself, can’t help you on that one I’m afraid. The link in my description was to a guy who has done it on his channel...
I installed a 2TB drive and didn't have to do anything special. I simply got the offline installer from Microsoft and all storage was available immediately. If you want to take the extra time to fix the splash screen here is the video and steps I used. Very easy. ua-cam.com/video/nG1VNqVeSt4/v-deo.html
Even the latest and greatest One X doesn't have anywhere near enough storage. Puts me off even bothering.
Im 40 . Just realized what a ssd card is the same day i went from 7 -10 mbps to 500 mbps. Just in time for Witcher 3. New Samsung ssd 1 tb in my Series x. Ballin !
IMO I would rather upgrade to a 2tb Ssd would be half the price of a series x (( We did upgrade our Xbox One X to a 1 tb SSD, and found that the drive still needed more room due to hungry eat games)) Best wishes
just use external SSDs the system can tolerwate like 26 TB (will eat 4 drives at once, 1 internal max 2TB + 3 external 8TB each)
I actually saw faster progress bar moving the 115GB between two external SSDs.. though one was NVMe, but that shouldnt matter as it is still an USB3 sata3 controller.
moving the 115GB horizon file between two external took around 5 minutes and the Xbox One X progres bar peaked at 3.2Gbps, and mving the 115GB file back to teh internal systemdrive last night after I finally installed a cheap 1TB Netac SSD.. it took somewhat longer, and closer to 10min..
the console bootup time is around 30 to 35sec. now but before wiht the original 5400RPM.. just having the games on external SSds I saw up around -80% reduction in loading times.. so its nigh an day, and pop in and loading textures, and frame spikes and all that jazz.. gone.. makes a huge difference
is there a way to get the startup screen working when u switch to an SSD?
thanks
Well done (in the end) nice to see a video of a total cluster fuck project that totally reflects my own ineptitude 👍
Haha. Glad it’s not just me!
I may end up doing the same thing to my one x but without the thermal paste replacement given the manufacture date on my console is 05/07/2021 so not quite a year old... Even though the one s/x were both discontinued in the mid- to late part of 2020
I want to but I’m worried I will mess something up. I would rather pay a professional to do it for me.
Did you not have to clone the hatddrive onto the ssd?
I believe you can do it that way, but it felt like a good opportunity to start from fresh!
@@retro-unboxing when i remember correctly you have to clone the hatddrive because there is no other way to get the operating system on the new harddrive
@@chrishalle1982 You can definitely use a blank hard drive…. That’s the way I did it! you download the OS from Microsoft… it’s dead easy. I’m sure I covered it in the video? If I didn’t, the tutorial in the link in the description does….
It’s really quite easy.
I also upgraded it last november (2020). You can use a blank ssd. I think before October 2020 your only option was cloning. But in Oct-Nov 2020 they made it, so we can use a blank drive.
@@MrZisis does this also work with series s and x?
Yeah my xbox one S can't instal offline update ( OSU1 ) Anybody can help?
This doesn’t work out as planned.I did a decent amount of homework and found out the fault was deeper than the drive itself and it ultimately does very little for performance.
But I will watch anyway.
How did you clone drives?
I didn't. I used a fresh one and did a fresh install...
I hope you have better luck with your Elite controller than a lot of people have. Been through two now 🙄
Does this help with the FPS Stutter on Warzone?
I upgraded my laptops NvME m.2 and thought I'd try the old 256 stick with my Xbox and had the same experience....couldn't get my Xbox to even recognize it. Glad I tried though USB before tearing my Xbox apart. Thankfully only lost a few dollars for the cheapo enclosure I ordered from aliexpress
Did you work out why this wouldn't work.... with the correct enclosure and cable it should certainly work externally.... I'm juts about to upload a video on external SSD options!
@@retro-unboxing I'm not exactly sure, sorry. It is a cheapo enclosure from Amazon, like $15 bucks... but it's not even detected when I plug it into my Xbox one X. I've tried both file formats, nothing. It does work with my PC laptop, so I'm guessing it's on the Xbox side of things. I'm trying to use it with a 256 SSD NVME
@@retro-unboxing I've also tried putting this 256 gb stick into a cheapo m.2->2.5" enclosure from aliexpress, then put that 2.5" into a 2.5"->USB enclosure that I use on my One X successfully with an old spinning 1tb 2.5". ut doesn't detect. So maybe it's something to do with this particular generation of M.2...or maybe the 256gb size?
@@noahwillson9895 I'm fairly sure that the size (256gb) Is the reason it wouldn't work internally... my understanding is that xbox is flashed to expect a certain size drive - minimum being 500gb Xbox One and One S, and Minimum 1tb for One X. I also believe that 256gb is the minimum for external storage... But you have got it working now?
@@retro-unboxing nah, I was hoping to at least use the 256 stick like a flash drive but no dice...doesn't detect. I get why it might not be detected as an internal drive but I'm surprised it isn't even detecting it as usb storage
I don't own a computer so can I still add an internal SSD into xbox one x ?
I’m pretty sure you need a PC... the drive needs to be formatted, and you need to download recovery software from Microsoft...
Yes NVMe is faster, but the limit of the disk speed i determined by the connection. If you convert a NVMe disk to SATA, it will only allow SATA speed. With that said a SATA SSD is still much faster. I guess this is a bit of topic, but there are different versions of SATA with different speeds. PS3 had SATA I, PS4 has SATA II and i belive PS4 pro and XBOX ONE X have SATA III. Still, upgrading a PS3 with an SSD is an upgrade in disk speed if you have downloaded games, but the preformance gap wont be as great.
Where can I find a new xbox one x
Do you have windows on MacBook?) Or this is VM?
Yes indeed. It’s installed on a partition via bootcamp... it’s needed every now and then!
@@retro-unboxing i had before installed windows through parallel on my 2010 mac. It was so slow.
@@retro-unboxing Did you play in remember me? Such a good game
@@paulendo4363 to be fair using bootcamp installs Windows onto the MacBook as if it were an actual Windows machine, I’ve installed Steam and run games on it in 4K. Im not a fan of Windows but there’s just a couple of things I need it to do for me every now and then! Once installed you just have to choose the OS at startup..
@@paulendo4363 I’d never heard of it to be honest! I’ve just looked it up and will give it a download....
How to install the System on xbox?!?!?
This guy can save you 15% or more on upload speeds.
I was thinking of putting a mechanical hdd in a Series X. Do you think that would be a good move?
good tip if anyone does this/ does it again make sure you make a clone of the drive and save yourself a lot of time and hassle
Potentially a good tip... but in my case I wanted to do a clean fresh install!
@@retro-unboxing cool makes sense.
I put a great SSD in my ps3 and I've been blown away by the results. Next is my Xbox One X 🥊🥊💥🙏
I’m interested to hear how much better the PS3 is with a modern SSD in it? Improved install/load speeds etc?
And best of luck with the One X install! 👍
@@retro-unboxing Thanks Champ. See for yourself, I upload regularly 👀
I put a 2tb ssd on my Xbox one x it was super easy just plugged in into the use b port took seconds.
Hi any chance selling xbox one x I'm looking buy one hard find one these days I cant afford series x
Check OfferUp or Facebook marketplace
How much free space should be left after a new install
Hi Simon. I have 781GB of useable space..
@@retro-unboxing iam also missing my xbox one boot up animation , i just put the new drive in and used usb to update now boots straight to dash with no 4k animation , does the aninmation come back with a dash update or have i gotto take it out and add extra files via pc
@@simoncooke8563 it will re-appear as soon as there’s an update.... don’t trouble yourself!!!
@@retro-unboxing nice one thank you
@@simoncooke8563 it’s the speed
good job keep your xbox one x it also does 120fps at 1440p if you dont believe me test it !!
I do plan to... just need a monitor that supports 120hz