Agreed. These old consoles work perfectly fine besides menu / gameplay slow down as they age but being able to elimage that makws them feel like brand new
It's also makes the console start quicker and more efficient, the Menu becomes snappier and responsive and also helps load in gameplay quicker. Not just a time saver.
With SSDs, remember you want to get an SSD with a DRAM cache. If you get an SSD without this cache you won't really notice a difference compared to a normal HDD. This DRAM cache is needed to buffer longer writes/reads on the SATA bus and to maintain the higher speeds the SSD can offer. Cheaper quality SSDs without this DRAM cache will seem great at first, but if there is ever an extended read or write operation it will turn into a slog slower than a regular HDD. Also note that if you are getting an SSD for the Xbox One, make sure it's a SATA3(III) SSD as they do still sell SATA1 and SATA2 SSDs that just can't reach the speeds you want from a drive you are going to throw into your Xbox. You also cant use an NVME SSD in something like the Xbox One as that requires a PCIe connection which the Xbox One is not providing for the hard drive. The other thing to is every console game is going to use virtual memory and this is on your hard drive that is then cycled into and out of active memory when and if it's needed. With an SSD, you will see vastly, I mean vastly, better performance in a variety of scenarios when virtual memory is used. This will lead to much less stuttering among a host of other improvements such a texture loading etc. You also want this SSD to be internal and not connected to the console via a USB port. This will add a bunch of unnecessary overhead to that connection. Hope this helps someone.
DRAM cache is not necessary. Do not fearmonger people. I've tested storage media from all classes throughout the years, and even use a combination of cheap and expensive parts on my own computer, and based on my experience, pushing people to go for the more expensive models for SSDs is not productive. One needs to understand the differences of all models, their performance for their use-case of interest and their objective value, before buying a part. Otherwise, it is likely they'll be ripped off. I use Windows on my PC, and store most of my games on a SATA SSD which averages at about 450MBps. Even though most modern SSDs can exceed that, the real world performance is negligible, especially in gaming (unless you're using a PS5 or XB Series console. Then again, in that case you'd be going after NVME Gen 4 SSDs by necessity, and I doubt you'd have any problem, as long as they reach their advertised spec and that matches the minimum recommended one by Sony and MS). Then there's also pricing. Let alone the fact that checking if a model has DRAM Cache is a pain in the ass. In general, get the cheapest thing that provides a decent level of real world performance as well as a good warranty (~4 years), and don't get caught up in the details.
This was a really helpful video! I installed a similar drive and the difference is stunning overall. The way that it woke up my tired v1 XBOne is clear. Menus, in particular, and load times on open world games... it's a lot. Cleaning it up inside helps a lot too :)
Especially since xbox requires physical games to "install" on the drive. Also with the rumors of going all digital, larger drives will me needed even more.
As a PC gamer, I don't even take up half of a terabyte, barely a quarter with all the games I got. I'm not the type that downloads my entire library, tho 2TB is overkill, but for those who bloat their storage with games they'll never play and/or only play bloated games like CoD, I guess 2TB would be fine As someone who owns a console, I REFUSE to buy digital. I recommend AVOIDING digital copies at all cost. Your games will be stuck on that platform, you'll never get your money back, and you'll be left with "backwards compatibility" bs and/or port begging your console manufacturer overlords, just to rebuy them as remasters PC is the only legitimate platform, especially for non-exclusives. Once you own a game, you own it forever
@@cqllel5186 Haha I only have 7 installed currently that are 100gb or more and many that are either near that or are at least 50gb in size. I also have over 600 games on steam according to steam itself but don't have anywhere near that many installed. I'm just weird I guess 😂.
Added a 2Tb SSD to my Xbox one X and read dead 2 saved me about 43 seconds in loading and Forza horizon 5 took my HDD 3ish minutes for a completed saved file but on the SSD it saved me about a minute and a half
I'm considering doing this to my Xbox One. I don't really care much for the newest and biggest in videogames these days so I'll likely only be playing Halo and Hitman, but they take up almost all my space. Having a large enough internal drive that also makes the console and games load a little bit faster, even if it's only 10-15 seconds, is a good enough upgrade for me! And a reason to clean it's internals after 8 years of use. I wonder if there are more (simple)mods to do while I'm already thinking of opening it up...
I just recently bought a External 500gb SSD for my original Xbox one , and it's way better with how smooth it runs and the load times on red dead , forza horizon 4, warzone and far cry 5 is better
@@jjcd94 Even if it did the HDD is still bogged by a sata 1 bus so you're capping at 150mb/s anyways Most modern mechanical HDD's are capable of hitting those speeds so paying a premium on an SSD is not worth it for a xbox 360. MIcrosoft really should've had a final update to allow users to format their own HDDs internally especially now as the consoles are getting old and HDD's are dying.
That battlefield 2042 on game pass on this🔥, The one X has 4k just in case with the Xbox one Kinect port which makes the Xbox way better Kinect support on a lot of games like Battlefield 4
Hi @@wallstreet2909 , thanks for the offer. I am not setup to do upgrades/mods for others. I like to play around with the consoles as a hobby, but not interested in turning it into something more than that right now.
Did this to my Xbox One X. Upgraded to an internal SSD and wow. What a difference. That was two years ago and I bought the series X controller. I did own a series x but I sold it since I had a ps5 and the one x runs so well still. I watched this video to see if it was worth upgrading my girls OG Xbox one to an internal SSD for her. Might just get her to upgrade though.
I use krynoaut grizzle thermal paste. It's a premium thermal paste, but a really good thermal paste for conductivity and longevity. The original xbox one has SATA Il. While the xbox one x\s has SATA lll. So you'll be able to fully utilize 600mb read and write speeds with SATA lll SSDs on the xbox one x/s. It would be interesting to get a xbox one s and put the same SATA lll SSD in it, and compare it to this xbox one to see if there is any real difference in load times between SATA ll vs SATA lll on these consoles.
Thanks for the recommendations. I'll check out the thermal paste. That is good to information about the xbox one x/s. If I come across one, I may try that test comparison.
@@pathfindercastdont use it its designed for setting records so its longevity is very bad. Used it on a 13600k and within 3 months temps rose 10 degrees celcius.
I traded for mine, some electronics worth maybe $30 on marketplace. I just wanted it for backwards 360 games and some physical XB1 games. The kid swore that it worked. Well....when I got it home, I had to leave it in the garage for a few days because it wreaked like weed smoke. It was almost as dirty inside as the one in the video, starving for air. The laser was shot in the disc drive. I ended up tearing it completely down and washing all the parts in the bathtub. New thermal paste and a few days later, it's up and running, I used a ton of essential orange oil on it, so it's smells really good. I still have to swap a new laser in. The front panel also needs replaced, it was shorted with some type of dust/tar/weed tar and I tore the connector cleaning it. It's a digital console as of now, plays Fortnite and acts as a streaming device. I love the "VCR" for some reason, it's big and sleek looking, super quiet when maintained and cleaned properly.
Glad to hear you got it cleaned up. I came across a ps3 slim that was gummed up with weed smoke and I still never got it working again. Hopefully you can get the laser replaced. I did replace the capacitor in the power supply which I did post a follow up video on.
Sometimes that means the power supply needs replacing. I recently had an Xbox one being slower than usual on start up and the power supply did eventually die on me.
Dang thank you so much for this video. I would totally would have done the same to see if there’s a difference and if I could upgrade the internal ssd.
I think the primary benefit of an SSD is that the disc is much less likely to fail in the future. HDDs are much more volatile to failure than SSDs. I upgraded my Xbox One to a 500GB SSD but then use an external 2TB SSD for game installs. The 500GB SSD internally was just to reduce the likelihood of the system failing. Plan on doing the same to my Xbox 360 once it loses all support and connectivity to my Xbox account. Right now the achievements still transfer so I'm catching up on that library atm. lmao
Did u check to see if the ssd has dram. Then it will slow down as the drive fills up. Dramless drives are extremely slow for boot drives but is perfect for game storage drive
Interesting point. I did not check if it has DRAM when I purchased, it but the drive I used was a Lexar NS100. I did a little research and the SSD controller is the 88NV1120 Artemis from Marvell, a DRAM cache is not available. Is that good?
@pathfindercast yea you looking for a dram cache. Without the cache the ssd can slow down as slow as a hard drive. That's why they are not recommended for boot drives. They are perfect for game storage drives though. Linus tech tips has a video on why that are not good for boot drives and explains why they slow down. Basically cheap ssds won't have the cache. I'd buy a Samsung drive or a sk hynix drive. You should also fill the drive up and redo the speed test to see if it slows down.
I miss the old days where we had an external power brick so if it stopped working, all you had to do was buy a replacement online instead of taking console apart and replacing the internal power supply
Sometimes just taking apart the power brick, cleaning it out and lubricating the fan spindle in it fixes it. It's not always necessary to throw out power bricks when all they may need is simple maintenance. I've noticed too many people including myself back in the day would do that. Nowadays I open up my power brick on the xbone every 6 months for maintenance.
SSD speeds may not be a huge difference compared to the HDD but the in-game textures and assets will load in way faster and smoother and the whole system will feel snappier overall.
@@mightygamerjames HDDs have longer lifespans. They hold more data and they're ideal for storage purposes. Although, SSDs are now pretty close to HDDs in lifespan these days
On an OG xbox one the external USB 3.0 port believe it or not has a higher bandwidth bus than the Sata II port internally build into the console. Though later model Xbox Ones ( non launch VCR style ) all have Sata III buses instead of Sata II so you could get much faster speeds off SSD.
The speed differences on the Xbox 360 between using a disc, HDD, or SSD are heavily influenced by whether the console is modded or unmodded. On an unmodded console, games run faster when played directly from the disc because they rely on the disc for data and the HDD or SSD mainly for saving game progress. However, on a modded console, you can copy game files from the disc to the console's storage. This allows games to be played without needing the disc for DRM checks, resulting in potentially smoother and faster gameplay when using the HDD or SSD. Modding the console provides a clearer comparison of disc speed versus HDD or SSD performance because it eliminates the disc's role beyond initial verification. In essence, modding can significantly affect how games perform on the Xbox 360 by allowing them to bypass disc-based limitations and utilize the faster read speeds of HDDs or SSDs for gameplay. I WROTE THIS! AND I REGRET I! I think I know why Xbox 360 was the fastest. So on Xbox One you need to install games to run them so it only needs DISC to read DRM and for Xbox 360 it is similar but it doesn't need you to install the DISC onto the console. You can but it won't reply on the SSD/HDD until you do install the games from the DISC to the console then it uses that. So if you don't install the games them self from unmodded Xbox 360 from the install method Xbox allows which rarely games don't support, you will rely on the DISC to play the game which can introduce issues like scratched spots on the DISC causing corruption on save files which is rare but possible so always if you can rely on the hard drive but sometimes relying on DISC is better somehow on very scratchy copies meanwhile some people may experience less stutters and issues relying on disc or hdd. I can't really say at this point my comment is a mess so I'll just summarize: if you run a game on its disc its gonna be faster than a HDD or SSD because it is relyed on and the only thing game is being played by and the only process the hard drives are doing is saving the game and progress and profiles pictures and achivements etc. But because IT does introduce explotiablity Xbox One for privacy reasons NEEDs DRM checks and many of them. That's why Xbox One is slowest and unhackable unless you make it offline only etc which ruins the point of it. And I think some games or most you can't even install without DISC being verified by a DRM service by Xbox One or Microsoft. I am unsure. About the Xbox 360 chapter. I'd like to address the reasons why it happened to be that SSD and HDD was slower. It was mainly due to you not using a modded console. If you'd used a modded Xbox 360 you'd know that running a game while disc is in it and game isn't installed partially or fully makes it signfically slower as it relies on reading the disc but only uses HDD or SSD for saving data. You could lbe better off comparing them three which you are techically only compaing DISC to HDD to SSD rather than being internal from my understanding. And another point is if you are installing via what Xbox 360 allows then it only reads the disc casually and randomly to check if the game's disc is still there and that your running an authetic copy of that game currently running. So in short if you had a modded console and you copied over the files from the DISC that you own and eject the DISC and play the game on the modded console you'd see that its way faster with the HDD and SSD as it doesn't read DRMs or checks just plays the files. But I don't know if your into that kind of stuff like modding consoles. But from my experience it is like that! Sorry for this messy comment!
Noctua is my favorite thermal paste seems to be a few degrees lower and the best power supply is actually a 203w fat 360 power supply with one of them 5 dollar Xbox 360 to Xbox One AC Adapter thing will outlast everything and gives it a little extra power overhead also im pretty shure fat xb1 used SATA 2 which limits it to 300MB/s the one-s used sata 3 tho which could double it also external hdds can have a advantage because they do not have to load the operating system also.
It's an upgrade, I guess, but who is still using an Xbox one original in 2024 it's so underpowered I have the limited edition advanced warfare console planning to keep it maybe ut would go up in value
I installed the drive directly into the Xbox one straight from the packaging. The Xbox will boot up with an error which is why the firmware has to be on a USB drive.
was the external usb drive a solid state drive or a moving platter? In theory the fastest performance should be on an external ssd drive as the 3.0 usb interface was faster then the internal sata 2 interface. That being said I remember the xbox one interface being somewhat sluggish and i heard an internal SSD makes the system OS perform like a current gen console.
I used a Toshiba DTB310 which is a 1TB HDD 5400 RPM. I chose this because it was the closest to the OEM internal HDD and I wanted to test if the USB 3 was faster than the SATA2, which it was. I agree using an external SSD or NVMe is going to be even more performant for loading gams. The xbox one dash is just plain sluggish, but yah I do think the internal SSD can make a difference there.
Wonder if this would give a performance increase in games like party animals or cyberpunk which stress xone to huge drops. Party animals has built in fps counter you can overlay in game, would love to see if you get a slight increase in fps on it?
I might I suggest some way of trying to use a newer M.2 NVMe drive to see what the performance is like? Maybe there's some kind of adapter to make it work.
There are many videos on yt detailing how but I like the spread the paste like an extremely thin layer of butter over the entire die then do a conservative x pattern
I usually can get the cpu pretty clean with isopropyl alcohol and q-tips. If it's really dried out I may use a tiny amount of de-solv-it on a q-tip. For applying new thermal paste, a little bit goes a long way, and I apply a dab about the size of a small grain of rice.
@@tenchotenchev5606That is incorrect. You can upgrade the internal disk in a stock system as well. It's just a slightly different procedure than if you have an RGH or JTAG mod.
@@arunprajapatikumhar8229you certainly can and it's easy. A quick search will come up with results. I used MrMario's tutorial on my RGH3 Trinity console.
How the hell did we ever put up with such long load times?! O_o; Anyway. I've got an Xbox One S that's gathering dust. I'm tempted to replace the hard drive, since the old drive was too small and slow, but it's kind of pointless to bother with it now that I've got a Series S.
If using the newer 360 slim console the upgrade is super simple. And using an SSD, despite the 360 having an older SATA interface, does improve performance due to the faster random reads. I upgraded mine to a 1tb SSD just a week ago.
@@randykoger4646Well that’s the reason people want to use the SSD so it’s possible to play next gen games on the Xbox one X that’s why he posted this video he tried and he failed so it’s a waste of money to even put the SSD into the Xbox one if you can’t play Xbox series X your better off buying the Series x instead
12 seconds is a hell of a time-save
😂😂😂
Agreed. These old consoles work perfectly fine besides menu / gameplay slow down as they age but being able to elimage that makws them feel like brand new
It's also makes the console start quicker and more efficient, the Menu becomes snappier and responsive and also helps load in gameplay quicker. Not just a time saver.
With SSDs, remember you want to get an SSD with a DRAM cache. If you get an SSD without this cache you won't really notice a difference compared to a normal HDD. This DRAM cache is needed to buffer longer writes/reads on the SATA bus and to maintain the higher speeds the SSD can offer. Cheaper quality SSDs without this DRAM cache will seem great at first, but if there is ever an extended read or write operation it will turn into a slog slower than a regular HDD. Also note that if you are getting an SSD for the Xbox One, make sure it's a SATA3(III) SSD as they do still sell SATA1 and SATA2 SSDs that just can't reach the speeds you want from a drive you are going to throw into your Xbox. You also cant use an NVME SSD in something like the Xbox One as that requires a PCIe connection which the Xbox One is not providing for the hard drive. The other thing to is every console game is going to use virtual memory and this is on your hard drive that is then cycled into and out of active memory when and if it's needed. With an SSD, you will see vastly, I mean vastly, better performance in a variety of scenarios when virtual memory is used. This will lead to much less stuttering among a host of other improvements such a texture loading etc. You also want this SSD to be internal and not connected to the console via a USB port. This will add a bunch of unnecessary overhead to that connection. Hope this helps someone.
Nice explanation. Thanks
DRAM cache is not necessary. Do not fearmonger people. I've tested storage media from all classes throughout the years, and even use a combination of cheap and expensive parts on my own computer, and based on my experience, pushing people to go for the more expensive models for SSDs is not productive. One needs to understand the differences of all models, their performance for their use-case of interest and their objective value, before buying a part. Otherwise, it is likely they'll be ripped off.
I use Windows on my PC, and store most of my games on a SATA SSD which averages at about 450MBps. Even though most modern SSDs can exceed that, the real world performance is negligible, especially in gaming (unless you're using a PS5 or XB Series console. Then again, in that case you'd be going after NVME Gen 4 SSDs by necessity, and I doubt you'd have any problem, as long as they reach their advertised spec and that matches the minimum recommended one by Sony and MS).
Then there's also pricing. Let alone the fact that checking if a model has DRAM Cache is a pain in the ass.
In general, get the cheapest thing that provides a decent level of real world performance as well as a good warranty (~4 years), and don't get caught up in the details.
This was a really helpful video! I installed a similar drive and the difference is stunning overall. The way that it woke up my tired v1 XBOne is clear. Menus, in particular, and load times on open world games... it's a lot. Cleaning it up inside helps a lot too :)
That's awesome to see. Thanks for the comment.
They need to launch the new consoles in a few years here with a 2tb SSD anything less is not enough storage in my opinion
Especially since xbox requires physical games to "install" on the drive. Also with the rumors of going all digital, larger drives will me needed even more.
As a PC gamer, I don't even take up half of a terabyte, barely a quarter with all the games I got. I'm not the type that downloads my entire library, tho
2TB is overkill, but for those who bloat their storage with games they'll never play and/or only play bloated games like CoD, I guess 2TB would be fine
As someone who owns a console, I REFUSE to buy digital. I recommend AVOIDING digital copies at all cost. Your games will be stuck on that platform, you'll never get your money back, and you'll be left with "backwards compatibility" bs and/or port begging your console manufacturer overlords, just to rebuy them as remasters
PC is the only legitimate platform, especially for non-exclusives. Once you own a game, you own it forever
@@cqllel5186 Then there's me installing most of my stuff and still not having enough storage with 6tb worth of ssds 😂.
@@WyattOShea Dambbb. Why so mamy games lol? There's not actually a lot of games that surpass 100gb
@@cqllel5186 Haha I only have 7 installed currently that are 100gb or more and many that are either near that or are at least 50gb in size. I also have over 600 games on steam according to steam itself but don't have anywhere near that many installed. I'm just weird I guess 😂.
Added a 2Tb SSD to my Xbox one X and read dead 2 saved me about 43 seconds in loading and Forza horizon 5 took my HDD 3ish minutes for a completed saved file but on the SSD it saved me about a minute and a half
Totally. I upgraded my Xbox one x to an internal SSD two years ago and I’m so glad I did. I still think it runs so well.
I'm considering doing this to my Xbox One. I don't really care much for the newest and biggest in videogames these days so I'll likely only be playing Halo and Hitman, but they take up almost all my space. Having a large enough internal drive that also makes the console and games load a little bit faster, even if it's only 10-15 seconds, is a good enough upgrade for me! And a reason to clean it's internals after 8 years of use.
I wonder if there are more (simple)mods to do while I'm already thinking of opening it up...
I just recently bought a External 500gb SSD for my original Xbox one , and it's way better with how smooth it runs and the load times on red dead , forza horizon 4, warzone and far cry 5 is better
@@maxswayy3497 I've used an external SSD for playing movies through my Xbox and it really does work fast! Nice to know that also applies to games!
WIsh I could do this to a 360. Great video!
the problem with that its the xbox 360 dosent support ssd without rgh
@@jjcd94 Even if it did the HDD is still bogged by a sata 1 bus so you're capping at 150mb/s anyways Most modern mechanical HDD's are capable of hitting those speeds so paying a premium on an SSD is not worth it for a xbox 360.
MIcrosoft really should've had a final update to allow users to format their own HDDs internally especially now as the consoles are getting old and HDD's are dying.
Yup. One of those capacitors is a bulger. 😕 Nice to put in an SSD though to cut the amount of moving parts you have to worry about. 🙂
That battlefield 2042 on game pass on this🔥, The one X has 4k just in case with the Xbox one Kinect port which makes the Xbox way better Kinect support on a lot of games like Battlefield 4
Thanks for the recommendation. I wanted to try some additional Kinect games.
what does kinect do?
@@pathfindercast hey man would you be willing to do a upgrade on my console? I would happily pay you.
Hi @@wallstreet2909 , thanks for the offer. I am not setup to do upgrades/mods for others. I like to play around with the consoles as a hobby, but not interested in turning it into something more than that right now.
Did this to my Xbox One X. Upgraded to an internal SSD and wow. What a difference. That was two years ago and I bought the series X controller. I did own a series x but I sold it since I had a ps5 and the one x runs so well still. I watched this video to see if it was worth upgrading my girls OG Xbox one to an internal SSD for her. Might just get her to upgrade though.
Nice! I have the Series S, so I use my Xbox One for the disc based games. I'm also waiting to see if M$ is going to a mid-generation refresh or not.
Hello fellow Arizonan! I also got an. Xbox One, I got one for 50$ working and all.
Cheers! ☀
In my opinion the ssd is worth it ,if you don't plan to upgrade yet to next gen
this is a great video, answered a question I didn't know I had lol
Thanks for the comment.
I use krynoaut grizzle thermal paste. It's a premium thermal paste, but a really good thermal paste for conductivity and longevity. The original xbox one has SATA Il. While the xbox one x\s has SATA lll. So you'll be able to fully utilize 600mb read and write speeds with SATA lll SSDs on the xbox one x/s. It would be interesting to get a xbox one s and put the same SATA lll SSD in it, and compare it to this xbox one to see if there is any real difference in load times between SATA ll vs SATA lll on these consoles.
Thanks for the recommendations. I'll check out the thermal paste. That is good to information about the xbox one x/s. If I come across one, I may try that test comparison.
@@pathfindercastdont use it its designed for setting records so its longevity is very bad. Used it on a 13600k and within 3 months temps rose 10 degrees celcius.
@@DeadlyDragon935the mx4 is a good option, right?
@@jfsps15 that´s the one I use, on Xbox One and Xbox One X
I traded for mine, some electronics worth maybe $30 on marketplace. I just wanted it for backwards 360 games and some physical XB1 games. The kid swore that it worked. Well....when I got it home, I had to leave it in the garage for a few days because it wreaked like weed smoke. It was almost as dirty inside as the one in the video, starving for air. The laser was shot in the disc drive. I ended up tearing it completely down and washing all the parts in the bathtub. New thermal paste and a few days later, it's up and running, I used a ton of essential orange oil on it, so it's smells really good. I still have to swap a new laser in. The front panel also needs replaced, it was shorted with some type of dust/tar/weed tar and I tore the connector cleaning it. It's a digital console as of now, plays Fortnite and acts as a streaming device. I love the "VCR" for some reason, it's big and sleek looking, super quiet when maintained and cleaned properly.
Glad to hear you got it cleaned up. I came across a ps3 slim that was gummed up with weed smoke and I still never got it working again. Hopefully you can get the laser replaced. I did replace the capacitor in the power supply which I did post a follow up video on.
The boot time is the worse part of xbox one
I just bought a copy of The Division on disc at a thrift store so I booted up my xbone today. It still does take a long time to boot up even with SSD.
Sometimes that means the power supply needs replacing. I recently had an Xbox one being slower than usual on start up and the power supply did eventually die on me.
@@pathfindercast it's a shame xbox one not even that bad .my xbox360 boots faster
Dang thank you so much for this video. I would totally would have done the same to see if there’s a difference and if I could upgrade the internal ssd.
I think the primary benefit of an SSD is that the disc is much less likely to fail in the future. HDDs are much more volatile to failure than SSDs. I upgraded my Xbox One to a 500GB SSD but then use an external 2TB SSD for game installs. The 500GB SSD internally was just to reduce the likelihood of the system failing. Plan on doing the same to my Xbox 360 once it loses all support and connectivity to my Xbox account. Right now the achievements still transfer so I'm catching up on that library atm. lmao
Did u check to see if the ssd has dram. Then it will slow down as the drive fills up. Dramless drives are extremely slow for boot drives but is perfect for game storage drive
Interesting point. I did not check if it has DRAM when I purchased, it but the drive I used was a Lexar NS100. I did a little research and the SSD controller is the 88NV1120 Artemis from Marvell, a DRAM cache is not available. Is that good?
@pathfindercast yea you looking for a dram cache. Without the cache the ssd can slow down as slow as a hard drive. That's why they are not recommended for boot drives. They are perfect for game storage drives though. Linus tech tips has a video on why that are not good for boot drives and explains why they slow down. Basically cheap ssds won't have the cache. I'd buy a Samsung drive or a sk hynix drive. You should also fill the drive up and redo the speed test to see if it slows down.
External SSD should be significantly faster than an External HDD.
I agree, that makes sense that it would be.
I miss the old days where we had an external power brick so if it stopped working, all you had to do was buy a replacement online instead of taking console apart and replacing the internal power supply
Sometimes just taking apart the power brick, cleaning it out and lubricating the fan spindle in it fixes it. It's not always necessary to throw out power bricks when all they may need is simple maintenance. I've noticed too many people including myself back in the day would do that. Nowadays I open up my power brick on the xbone every 6 months for maintenance.
Why do you need to disrespect the disk like that? Multiple times too man. My soul…
SSD speeds may not be a huge difference compared to the HDD but the in-game textures and assets will load in way faster and smoother and the whole system will feel snappier overall.
I slapped a SSD into my One S. Worth it.
if he sells the game, he already made his profit back XD
to be honest 12second is a lot of time saved
for £10 that’s a hell of a deal I got mine on ebay for £30 I repasted and cleaned it as previous owner put bad thermal paste on it.
A bit late. The disc drive issue is likely an issue with the front touch cable being torn, or the board not being fully reconnected properly.
This is actually showing us all why we actually get slapped so hard playing warzone on Xbox one og’s lol
Don't forget to copy the Xbox one boot animation from the hdd to the sdd
True. Or if not it’ll install the boot animation after it it updates to new firmware again.
They should have made the HDD easy to upgrade like the ps3 and 4
Thank you
an Xbox One X benefits more of an SSD because it supports SATAIII interface and plus the CPU is faster anyway.
Agreed
best things about an ssd it will last a bit longer than a hard drive
SSDs are better than HDDs, but they do not last nearly as long as HDDs
@@cqllel5186 I had hard disk drives fail on me more than a solid state
@@mightygamerjames HDDs have longer lifespans. They hold more data and they're ideal for storage purposes. Although, SSDs are now pretty close to HDDs in lifespan these days
Is the Xbox one using SATA3 or SATA2?
It's SATA2, hence the USB 3.0 is able to perform better in some cases.
My day one launch has a 3 min green boot screen. I think the hdd is dying gta takes about 5 mins to load
Back when I had my original Xbox One, I used an external SSD. It was night and day compared to the original drive.
On an OG xbox one the external USB 3.0 port believe it or not has a higher bandwidth bus than the Sata II port internally build into the console. Though later model Xbox Ones ( non launch VCR style ) all have Sata III buses instead of Sata II so you could get much faster speeds off SSD.
Considering the scale of GTA 5, I assume the SSD becomes more notable the bigger the game is compared to smaller games.
The speed differences on the Xbox 360 between using a disc, HDD, or SSD are heavily influenced by whether the console is modded or unmodded. On an unmodded console, games run faster when played directly from the disc because they rely on the disc for data and the HDD or SSD mainly for saving game progress. However, on a modded console, you can copy game files from the disc to the console's storage. This allows games to be played without needing the disc for DRM checks, resulting in potentially smoother and faster gameplay when using the HDD or SSD. Modding the console provides a clearer comparison of disc speed versus HDD or SSD performance because it eliminates the disc's role beyond initial verification.
In essence, modding can significantly affect how games perform on the Xbox 360 by allowing them to bypass disc-based limitations and utilize the faster read speeds of HDDs or SSDs for gameplay.
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I think I know why Xbox 360 was the fastest. So on Xbox One you need to install games to run them so it only needs DISC to read DRM and for Xbox 360 it is similar but it doesn't need you to install the DISC onto the console. You can but it won't reply on the SSD/HDD until you do install the games from the DISC to the console then it uses that. So if you don't install the games them self from unmodded Xbox 360 from the install method Xbox allows which rarely games don't support, you will rely on the DISC to play the game which can introduce issues like scratched spots on the DISC causing corruption on save files which is rare but possible so always if you can rely on the hard drive but sometimes relying on DISC is better somehow on very scratchy copies meanwhile some people may experience less stutters and issues relying on disc or hdd. I can't really say at this point my comment is a mess so I'll just summarize: if you run a game on its disc its gonna be faster than a HDD or SSD because it is relyed on and the only thing game is being played by and the only process the hard drives are doing is saving the game and progress and profiles pictures and achivements etc. But because IT does introduce explotiablity Xbox One for privacy reasons NEEDs DRM checks and many of them. That's why Xbox One is slowest and unhackable unless you make it offline only etc which ruins the point of it. And I think some games or most you can't even install without DISC being verified by a DRM service by Xbox One or Microsoft. I am unsure. About the Xbox 360 chapter. I'd like to address the reasons why it happened to be that SSD and HDD was slower. It was mainly due to you not using a modded console. If you'd used a modded Xbox 360 you'd know that running a game while disc is in it and game isn't installed partially or fully makes it signfically slower as it relies on reading the disc but only uses HDD or SSD for saving data. You could lbe better off comparing them three which you are techically only compaing DISC to HDD to SSD rather than being internal from my understanding. And another point is if you are installing via what Xbox 360 allows then it only reads the disc casually and randomly to check if the game's disc is still there and that your running an authetic copy of that game currently running.
So in short if you had a modded console and you copied over the files from the DISC that you own and eject the DISC and play the game on the modded console you'd see that its way faster with the HDD and SSD as it doesn't read DRMs or checks just plays the files. But I don't know if your into that kind of stuff like modding consoles. But from my experience it is like that!
Sorry for this messy comment!
well it is almost 10 year old now
Noctua is my favorite thermal paste seems to be a few degrees lower and the best power supply is actually a 203w fat 360 power supply with one of them 5 dollar Xbox 360 to Xbox One AC Adapter thing will outlast everything and gives it a little extra power overhead also im pretty shure fat xb1 used SATA 2 which limits it to 300MB/s the one-s used sata 3 tho which could double it also external hdds can have a advantage because they do not have to load the operating system also.
I put 2tb western digital ssd on my xbox one s
How I got a 1t western dig not sure if it’s a ssd tho I’ll get some more info on it but Xbox og wont even find that lol
It's an upgrade, I guess, but who is still using an Xbox one original in 2024 it's so underpowered I have the limited edition advanced warfare console planning to keep it maybe ut would go up in value
Do you have to do anything to the empty drive before you put it in?
I installed the drive directly into the Xbox one straight from the packaging. The Xbox will boot up with an error which is why the firmware has to be on a USB drive.
was the external usb drive a solid state drive or a moving platter? In theory the fastest performance should be on an external ssd drive as the 3.0 usb interface was faster then the internal sata 2 interface. That being said I remember the xbox one interface being somewhat sluggish and i heard an internal SSD makes the system OS perform like a current gen console.
I used a Toshiba DTB310 which is a 1TB HDD 5400 RPM. I chose this because it was the closest to the OEM internal HDD and I wanted to test if the USB 3 was faster than the SATA2, which it was. I agree using an external SSD or NVMe is going to be even more performant for loading gams. The xbox one dash is just plain sluggish, but yah I do think the internal SSD can make a difference there.
this console is bottlenecked extremely by the slow sata that was used
I wish we could upgrade the wifi in these too
Wonder if this would give a performance increase in games like party animals or cyberpunk which stress xone to huge drops. Party animals has built in fps counter you can overlay in game, would love to see if you get a slight increase in fps on it?
Maybe on the Xbox One X
I might I suggest some way of trying to use a newer M.2 NVMe drive to see what the performance is like? Maybe there's some kind of adapter to make it work.
Was the external drive hdd or SSD?
I used an external usb 3.0 hdd.
2:29 APU, not CPU
Nasty i go to...😊
I kind of want to do this, I know nothing about thermal paste, though. How do I remove the old crap and how much new paste should I put
There are many videos on yt detailing how but I like the spread the paste like an extremely thin layer of butter over the entire die then do a conservative x pattern
I usually can get the cpu pretty clean with isopropyl alcohol and q-tips. If it's really dried out I may use a tiny amount of de-solv-it on a q-tip. For applying new thermal paste, a little bit goes a long way, and I apply a dab about the size of a small grain of rice.
Soooo.... just get a large external ssd. Thanks for the experiments! Lol
Can we upgrade SSD in Xbox 360 also ?
Why would you want to do that in the first place? Even with an ssd all other parts are slow af.
@@DeadlyDragon935 I have moded Xbox 360 slim thats why I am asking
@@tenchotenchev5606That is incorrect. You can upgrade the internal disk in a stock system as well. It's just a slightly different procedure than if you have an RGH or JTAG mod.
@@arunprajapatikumhar8229you certainly can and it's easy. A quick search will come up with results. I used MrMario's tutorial on my RGH3 Trinity console.
How the hell did we ever put up with such long load times?! O_o;
Anyway. I've got an Xbox One S that's gathering dust. I'm tempted to replace the hard drive, since the old drive was too small and slow, but it's kind of pointless to bother with it now that I've got a Series S.
You should upgrade your One S. It plays disc games and your Series S does not.
you should try and do the same with a 360 and try to optimize it as much to make it the ultimate 360 😮
If using the newer 360 slim console the upgrade is super simple. And using an SSD, despite the 360 having an older SATA interface, does improve performance due to the faster random reads. I upgraded mine to a 1tb SSD just a week ago.
@@Trains-With-Shane Can you actually use ssd as internal memory in retail console? I have been told that the xbox doesn't let you do that.
So the External Drive is SSD too or what?
Wow. That’s a dirty console!
i agree. It was a lot of dust. I don't think it was in a smokers house either.
Toshiba usb drive? Is it hdd or ssd? Or just a thumb drive
I was thinking the same thing it must have been a ssd
Was the external drive an SSD?
Are save games automatically backed up? Or do you have to back them up manually?
Yes they are backed if you're connected to Xbox live.
was the lexar ssd d-ram less ssds without dram chache are slower then ones with dram
Lol mine came with a 1tb hdd put it in my ps3 and put a 256gb ssd in my xbox
Dam there's software that let's you clone your hdd yes made for xbox
look at the size of that mofo its a VCR
10 DORAR!!!
Even if you put the SSD in it you still can’t play Xbox series X games
You seem to be dumb as shit..... We are upgrading it to load game faster and boot early 🤠
No one stated you could.
@@randykoger4646Well that’s the reason people want to use the SSD so it’s possible to play next gen games on the Xbox one X that’s why he posted this video he tried and he failed so it’s a waste of money to even put the SSD into the Xbox one if you can’t play Xbox series X your better off buying the Series x instead
@@stevestars2966huh?
No one said you could the reason people want to do this is to load in their current games faster or boot up the Xbox faster like you could on you pc
xbox one lol
Could i just clone the old drive
I got probably about 30 games I found inside wii u consoles I bought to flip hahaha