Hard Starting Honda ATC, Easy Check for the Mechanical Ignition Advance!

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  • @tobias6867
    @tobias6867 3 роки тому +2

    2:44 Thank you so much for mentioning that! I put it in the wrong way and couldn't start my machine at all. I watched this video and put it in the proper way and it finally started. You've earned a subscriber!

  • @Donny_Buysall
    @Donny_Buysall 5 років тому +2

    Thank you Harvey! Always kinda never fully understood how the mechanical advance worked and how it could fail. My only complaint is I would've liked to see you assess and fix the Auto X's advance and you left us hanging at the end!

  • @royalracingtechroyalracing6128
    @royalracingtechroyalracing6128 5 років тому +5

    Alot of people dont know this buddy , awesome sauce much love from upstate New York RRTECH, dont forget me

  • @beastlybluenose7281
    @beastlybluenose7281 3 роки тому +1

    Harvey your the best man was having hell of a time trying to start a 1983 200e the Springs in cdi completely Rush powder thanks alot

  • @901boyz
    @901boyz 2 роки тому

    Thanks man I'm goona try this tomorrow on my 84 trx200 I have no spark and replaces the entire wiring harness never heard it run I bought it for 20$ hopefully thanks to this video I will hear it run soon thanks man

  • @thatkidintheranger9014
    @thatkidintheranger9014 3 роки тому

    That explains my tendinitis and arthritis , thx i have to now put more money into my pos

  • @bunkybell1120
    @bunkybell1120 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this video. My pulse genartor got to close an sheered off the metal tit. Ran good when I parked it. Went to ride it. No spark. I took the cdi cover off an found the pieces. I found this video an checked my springs. They are there. But there very sloppy. Thanks again for this video. It helped me. And my 83 185s

  • @AaronMartinCOOLVIDEO
    @AaronMartinCOOLVIDEO 5 років тому +1

    This is really good information Harvey thank you and I believe those Springs will break in after using the bike for a little bit.👍

  • @TheScarySquares
    @TheScarySquares 4 роки тому +1

    Mine takes forever to start then once it fires it runs great all day fires right up no issue next day won’t cold start worth a fuck

  • @rustyedmoore
    @rustyedmoore 5 років тому +1

    I may have sent that person your way. I had one of my subscribers ask about a source for springs and I told him to go check out Harvey's Honda Hoard. Lol!

  • @acetech9237
    @acetech9237 Рік тому

    Usually you set the gap with a business card on mowers. So probably the same with this.

  • @Hillbillypunk
    @Hillbillypunk 14 днів тому

    Was riding my 185s yesterday, kinda was running weird, i parked it.
    Today it won't even try. Has spark, has fuel.
    Took off the CDI cover, springs were dust.

  • @geoffreyjones2000
    @geoffreyjones2000 5 років тому

    Awesome, just what I needed. I really appreciate you peace

  • @logansampica4798
    @logansampica4798 2 роки тому

    my springs are broke and it will never stay idling by itself. Under load it works just fine. Under idle I can hear it misses every once in a while and it will die if you leave it alone. Guessing the springs are the culprit?

  • @nickwhitaker8602
    @nickwhitaker8602 Рік тому

    Getting ready to do to replace springs for a friend the springs are avalible new from Honda. xr200 motorcycle which are the same.

  • @ObuaGoddy-mn7rj
    @ObuaGoddy-mn7rj Рік тому

    I don't understand very much about cdi and mechanical advance ignition can you explain in a simpler way thanks

  • @MjS-zb6jr
    @MjS-zb6jr Рік тому

    A business card is normally a good place to start with gaping anything like that

  • @thepyrodude
    @thepyrodude 5 років тому

    If the points or pulse generator isn't in a mag or stator its usually got a mechanical advance

  • @hiphopman72
    @hiphopman72 3 роки тому

    Aweosme video, will try that

  • @KENPOCHOPPER
    @KENPOCHOPPER 3 роки тому

    Just bought '85 200s. Its hard to start but person before removed decompressor so i fig that was why. I got it started but and it wouldnt idle and shut off. Pulled carb and stuff. Put together. Out of about 12 pulls it would try to start but shut down. Did that 3 times. I pulled plug to test spark and there wasnt one.so i guess its sporadic. I will take look at magnet to check springs and it its clean. Not really sure about adjustments? I dont believe you showed that, right? Thx

  • @JesusDiaz-vw3ts
    @JesusDiaz-vw3ts Рік тому

    Donde puedo comprar esta pieza?

  • @nelsonmike1807
    @nelsonmike1807 3 роки тому

    I was wondering if you have a motor that will go into a 1982 honda xr200r . I got the bike for my son with bad information and the motor is unrebuildable .

  • @jwoo1302
    @jwoo1302 3 роки тому

    Do you need the middle nut on that?
    Mines broke off, but I have a new one.
    I was just curious. I have spark but still no start. This is the last issue I'm tackling.
    My issues seem to point me to this.

  • @davekimbler2308
    @davekimbler2308 5 років тому

    Good to know !

  • @johnnymartin9991
    @johnnymartin9991 3 роки тому

    Mine flooded and I pushed it over a mile, now it's dead what do you think happened?

  • @captainjerk
    @captainjerk 5 років тому +2

    Thanx for the informative video!
    I'm sure I will use these tips if I ever own a ATC from that period.
    Thanx Harvey! :D

  • @2strokeguru
    @2strokeguru 5 років тому

    Great video real good to know

  • @wtbm123
    @wtbm123 5 років тому

    Good info

  • @dknowlt
    @dknowlt 4 роки тому

    Hey bud I have the 1984 125 m I have changed the pulse generator and the magnet and got it all in time but still no spark what would you recommend the next step to be???

  • @dave1135
    @dave1135 5 років тому

    I've had customers bring me these where they wouldn't start, ife found them with them put together 180 out, and with the pin lost out of the cam.

  • @Bradygoodz
    @Bradygoodz 5 років тому +1

    Hey Harvey, ever had a strange loud chirping noise coming from the top end ? Hard starting and runs bad. Very low hour 84’ Honda trx200. I’ve had it for years and it’s always ran well and is a garage queen. Just don’t know where to start. Thank you

    • @HarveySpooner
      @HarveySpooner  5 років тому +1

      Hey North Texas! Yes, seen this a few times, for some reason, Ur top end is not getting oil, seen it on a DX225, the oil filter was put in backwards, having a similar problem on a 400ex, I checked the oil filter, it is in correctly, so, I'm thinking the line that sends oil to the head is clogged.... I hope this helps!!! Good Luck, thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!

    • @Bradygoodz
      @Bradygoodz 5 років тому

      Harvey Spooner thanks for the reply!! I will check the filter and change the oil ASAP!

  • @fan1701
    @fan1701 5 років тому

    Great info 🖒

  • @luissalazar9125
    @luissalazar9125 5 років тому

    Hey harvey, so one of the timing advance springs broke and the camshaft isnt lined up, theres times when it turns on then it throws a bit of an explosion and turns off, and i was wondering if you could help

  • @adam31957
    @adam31957 5 років тому

    My advance assembly is seized on the cam so I cant take it apart how do I fix this tried soaking it **update had a little talk with Mr prybar and mrs hammer and they persuaded it off lol no parts were harmed

  • @mikeshobbiesandrandomstuff
    @mikeshobbiesandrandomstuff 5 років тому

    I need a spark advancer for a 1980 atc 185 is there any chance you might be able to help me out Harvey?

  • @BB-hi5of
    @BB-hi5of 4 роки тому

    I think i come across the part number for these springs. Honda Number #30224-437-000. I took the advancer assembly completely apart, is there just one way it goes back together?

  • @Thumper68
    @Thumper68 Рік тому

    Just like an HEI on a small block Chevy more or less. Lmao yeah I guess so few minutes later in video.

  • @wheelpew4903
    @wheelpew4903 5 років тому

    Hey Harvey come buy my 1986 Yamaha 4 moto $350 lol

  • @countrygentleman4084
    @countrygentleman4084 5 років тому

    Use a a business card

  • @trentoncroft1879
    @trentoncroft1879 5 років тому

    I had to get a new email sry

  • @ObuaGoddy-mn7rj
    @ObuaGoddy-mn7rj Рік тому

    I don't understand very much about cdi and mechanical advance ignition can you explain in a simpler way thanks

    • @thurgogopro5338
      @thurgogopro5338 Рік тому

      The spark should be slightly before the piston reaches top dead centre, but as the engine revs faster it has to spark sooner to enable combustion to take place at The correct time so the advance unit makes the spark happen sooner the more you rev. Its all done by centrifugal force throwing weights out which moves the ignition plate