Honda Atc ignition timing.

Guy on 3wheeler world needed help so I made this video.

[@fallen6191q2w]

45,000 views wow I am glad that this video is able to give people a rough understanding on how the ignition system operates on the 185/200s

[@rubenramirez8076]

I have a No spark Problem on My 1984 ATC 200es can you help me please I have changed the coil and the CDI Box and still no spark

[@brannaganchavis1925]

Sir, your knowledge is greatly appreciated. Thank you

[@haydencarling9463]

Dude! This is the most helpful video on the cdi system ive found, thanks a million man!

[@DATMANCHOPPA]

i know you made this video a year ago but I'm a "MMI flunky" and currently ride an atc110 ('83) that my girl owns. thanks for dropping that knowledge brah

[@fallen6191q2w]

ChoppEsco no problem buddy

[@jamesdavid5997]

Definitely a big help!!!

[@jamesdoyel1356]

My bolt that holds the pulse generator is loose and the pulse generator can spin freely at the moment. I have a Atc 110. Would the best way be to line up the fire and TDC and then line up my pulse generator with the pick up?

[@susanlull2387]

Wow man you're good at explaining this bs 🤣🤣

[@leonwatts6134]

u meant to use a timing light and set the idle to 1400 rpm and align the f mark. At 1700 the advance begins. At 3500 rpm u should hit the two lines for full advance

[@leeanderson918]

Thanks need your help

[@claudiuo2466]

help please the distribution is set correctly at 12 o'clock but the ignition does not hit with F

[@francisguchie1973]

hello, thanks for this video it is what i was looking for exactly

[@fallen6191q2w]

Francis Guchie I’m glad I could help

[@chadnorris9357]

I have a 1984 200s atc I bought it for a couple hundred bucks . it has been running fine up until I cleaned the engine and sprayed Honda cleaner on the head to clean it up and now it won't crank. any ideas why? it has spark. it doesn't have a inline fuel filter and I put a k&n air filter on it when I bought it also but it ran fine until I washed it good

[@80srockerable]

You can remove that metal plug on top of flywheel to see the marks for TDC.

[@fallen6191q2w]

Yeah but sometimes it gets seized to shit.

[@Mornindump]

80srockerable I have an 85 200x has spark but weak. Vid is saying ohms are 91.5

[@vintagerules5207]

@@fallen6191q2w yeah i just broke mine lol should of watched this first

[@leonwatts6134]

thats how its meant to be done with a timing light so u dnt get oil everywhere when u start it and set the timing

[@rubenramirez8076]

I have a no spark on my 1984 ATC 200es can you please help me @Borrance Tecker

[@justbraaapit2311]

Dose the palse gen have two springs on it. I found a spring all broke up and I see there is one spring still on it so I'm assuming it gose on there to

[@justbraaapit2311]

Ah and my three wheeler has F and T and a line in the middle and a line before the F. So dose that mean I still time it to the F

[@fallen6191q2w]

Supposed to have 2 springs on it. You set the valve timing to T and ignition timing to F

[@justbraaapit2311]

Thanks bud

[@dustinpalmer3386]

Have the same bike sometimes it starts on one pull sometimes pull my arm out of socket lol fixing to change CDI and coil

[@fallen6191q2w]

Check how good the spark looks

[@stephenwatson2328]

Easy with a decompression lever

[@sjames3819]

picked up 200s 1985 atc honda. 2 weeks ago. started it few times. the decompressor lever is missing so its a pita. Now cant get it to start. have a spark but doesnt look as good as i think should be. also seems like spark plug is showing wet/gas. the bike came from previous owner with a Chinese carb. i pulled it apart 2 times seems ok. i think he had it running too rich. i tried checking CDI with meter but wasnt sure what setting to use so.... Im guessing its CDI, coil or stator but not sure how to check. Can you give advice?

[@fallen6191q2w]

Replace the spark plug, adjust the valves and timing chain

[@KENPOCHOPPER]

@@fallen6191q2w TY, i put in new plug, started on 3rd pull. When idel set perfect it wants to stall, if i turn it up a notch its fine until i give throttle then it goes high and stsys. Tried adjusting mix screw but didnt seem do much. I noticed the cheap carb choke is bouncing like crazy and wondering if this is causing go crazy. When i ride bike its not smooth. Kinda boggy and putting along. Im guna try to see if i can tighten choke center screw and tighten it up tomm? I took a video of it bouncing but doesn't look can post in comments.i turned mix screw out about 1 turn but not really sure what Chinese carb should be. Any help is appreciated. Ty

[@fallen6191q2w]

2 turns or so

[@sjames3819]

@@fallen6191q2w Hi heres a link that shows you the choke bouncing today after finally getting started ua-cam.com/video/w4cFprxY5qE/v-deo.html

[@brucepeters508]

whats a virtical engine !!!!!!

[@zachwithastache7898]

My notch in the sensor is flipped 180 would that effect it?

[@leroyjankins3944]

YES! My bike didnt run for two years figured out that little pulse generator that peice that physically spins was put back together 180 out of time, its sunple just flip it back around and itll work

[@WhatTheHeckTV]

my cdi failure no spark,was working before but had weak spark at the plug,

[@fallen6191q2w]

You sure its the cdi?

[@larrysledgejr1280]

my 1984 atc200s will not idle . what could be the problem ? itried to idle up the carb but it does not idle up could it be the carb?

[@fallen6191q2w]

Id clean the carb first, and reset it to factory spec. Also check the intake boot for cracks and replace the sparkplug.

[@redneckasmr-xd1gg]

and a tight intake valve lash can cause funky idle or no idle and hard or no start depens on how tight it is that is one reason to clean your air filter

[@johnroyalfoja7229]

how to convert contact point to cdi? my motorcycle is honda tmx 155

[@fallen6191q2w]

Not sure if you can.

[@TheJessicarabbit09]

my screws holding the pulse coil on are starting to strip... i stoped b4 i ruined them. ne ideas?

[@TheJessicarabbit09]

my return springs are broken on the advance, trying take it off to put a new one on

[@fallen6191q2w]

Sorry that this took so long. Go get yourself an impact driver. Looks like a screwdriver but you hit it with a hammer and it works good. I think harbour freight sells them.

[@jdawgl9989]

Stephanie Jonathan where did you get the springs from. I notice one of mine busted and I can't seem to find them anywhere.

[@beereadyyy9849]

@@TheJessicarabbit09 Just dealt with this myself last night, I dont have a impact screwdriver so I used my cordless impact and she rattled them right off

[@ford200555]

You should be using valve feeler gauges to gap the pickup.

[@fallen6191q2w]

ford200555 you could, but the paper works fine. Never had an issue

[@ford200555]

@@fallen6191q2w I know you can get away with it, but if you want to be Mr.Technical by the book......feeler gauge

[@ford200555]

@@fallen6191q2w Also parts expand when you run the engine(heat) so keep that in mind, the paper might work and it doesn't touch cold but may scrape when at temp

[@richiewaychoff2539]

Hey bro thanks.is it possible too get magnet 1 around out.

[@fallen6191q2w]

Which magnet?

[@richiewaychoff2539]

I'm sorry..not sure on exact title.although the spark rotor.bolted off cam..I had it all apart and it will notch in 2 ways the same..almost like 180*...if ya will....may be sugess co.pression stroke opposed too exaust..not sure friend..

[@fallen6191q2w]

@@richiewaychoff2539 is your valve timing in relation to your piston correct?

[@richiewaychoff2539]

@@fallen6191q2w yes sir I do believe so..I can roll around put crank on f..and on top it is at 12:00...although bring it around too f..again then its 6:00....makes sense. Just concerned if that thing is out .I don't want too start it..if there is a chance it fires at exhaust strokes. Maybe I am over thinking...just seems like its possible too be half way out..

[@brucepeters508]

its like man or what ever

[@PappaBen]

Shot you a Facebook message if you happen to get a chance to take a look at it

[@lanestegman9293]

My three wheelier will bump start and run good but will not kick stsrt

[@fallen6191q2w]

weak stator posibly not sparking enough at low engine rpm.

[@redneckasmr-xd1gg]

ive had the same problem on a xr200r and it was a tight intake valve lash bad idling to

[@kibawolf9293]

whats a stater

[@fallen6191q2w]

Stator is what sits behind your flywheel to generate the current for the spark.

[@kibawolf9293]

im thinking its my cdi

[@kibawolf9293]

its eather three things cdi stater or cdi electro box. my coil was just replaced. it fell apart in my hand. lol or it could be my kill switch. thanks for the vid. i have a 1994 haunda xr200r 4stroke.

[@fallen6191q2w]

No problem bud. Should all be basically the same on a xr200

[@jeremymorrison8315]

Any way I can contact you through FACEBOOK. I could really use your help

[@fallen6191q2w]

Yea sure my name is Torrance Becker. My profile picture is a 57 chevy

[@baldotorres1976]

Could I ask you something through facebook

[@fallen6191q2w]

What you need to know?

[@baldotorres1976]

@@fallen6191q2w having trouble trying to turn on, I checked timing, has new spark plug and carb

[@stevenclark8533]

Good info could you please clean up you language.