Taylormade P770 vs. P790 Irons
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- Comparing the new P770 to the now legendary P790 iron - which player is each design best suited to? How would a combo set of both work? Answers to those questions and more in this test!
0:00 // Intro
3:53 // P790
6:31 // P770
9:43 // Results
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Thank you for the reassurance. I’m glad i put in my order for 5-6 in p790 and 7-pw in the p770. Again awesome videos! 🙏🏽 Can’t get enough!
Great video gents - this video reinforces how excited I am to get my P770’s with Oban CT 100 shafts.
You guys make the greatest videos! I love the info I get from your reviews! Thank you for all your hard work!
I would like to see P770 vs 921 Forged vs 921 HM Pro.
I was able to hit a P770 6 iron after one was left in the tee box from a group ahead. Not ashamed to say I hit a couple balls before I turned it in and I have never experienced that crispness of the ball coming off the face before. I was in awe! I gotta get a full set of these in the bag soon. Beautiful!
I've gone for a combination set. Pw to 7 iron p7mc and then 6 to 4 iron in the p770. Absolutely love them
Recovering from a knee injury so my golf is all through the lads of TXG. Thanks guys :))
I have been waiting for this video. Thank you!! You guys are awesome
New viewer here - big fan so far! I was fitted for P790s about a month ago and cannot wait until they arrive later this week. It's going to be a huge improvement over my 10+ year old Callaways. Keep up the great content!
Great video, I love how technical you get. Would love to see TM P7MC vs. Mizuno MP-20 MMC.
Thanks! Since I have both the P790 long/mid irons and a full set of the P770, it is nice to see they will combo well together just by adjusting lofts...excellent!
Would you go combo set or p770 thinking poss p770 up to 7 and then p790?
Would like to see more off centre strikes with both of these since the irons are designed to be “forgiving”. Great job tho, keep’em coming
Great timing on the video. Just got fitted for 6-gap P770s & 4-5 in P790 with Oban CT-125 X shafts. Was scared about forgiveness bc I’m currently playing Titleist 718 AP1. Makes me feel better so I’ll probably buy them now.
Great job as usual, guys.
I have to test the p770s, but from what I’ve seen so far, it seems they’ve won the battle in my short list: mizuno hmb, srixon x7 and ping i210.
Another great piece of content....those two models side by side with great data....super helpful for the consumer. Bucket list item is a one hour fitting with Ian.....your clients must feel totally dialed in
I got a full set of p790 a few weeks ago, moved from Titleist mb’s. Feel and feedback are very different. But you can still shape the p790. Still bedding them in but might drop back to MB’s to compare again. Nice work lads, keep up the great content! 👍
would love to see you guys do a trackman vs gc quad test indoors. Highlight the pros and cons of each - would be helpful for us going into fittings where someone has a trackman to be able to know what to expect numbers wise, etc.
Was fitted for P790s. Looking forward to them coming in this week even though it’s end of season. Needed to retire my titleist DCI 962 from 17 years ago lol
That must have been an eye opener?
I just put DCI in my bag, 6 iron 32deg .. hit them pure, replaced my modern 7 iron 31 degree clubs
I hit my dci’s pretty well but very high and spinny. Even my “knock down” shots are 120-140 in height. Just figured nearly 20 years was time for an update. The lofts are going to be interesting to get used to. Will be spending some time on range top tracer to get an idea.
Ian Jackson it was. But both will play similar so not worried. Thinner top line would be nice but not a deal breaker for me. I’m a 12-15 type capper who doesn’t have time to play a ton and isn’t too picky.
Brad Millar 💯 .. I hit them spinny as well coz of the shaft. I prefer them spinning to stick on the greens without rolling off. If your swing speed average you will be going on to the fringe with 790.. test Wilson staff model blades. Compare them .. they were the closest for feel and loft
Im really confident with my 5 year old Speedbalades full set but looking to upgrade. Been looking at the 790 as a full set, but the short irons on 770 sounds plus a more forgiving long irons 790 sounds like a great option. Thus is the perfect info I was looking for. Thank you.
After 3 yrs with the p970s, I've moved to p770s following a fitting with Taylormade - I only found 3-4 yards in difference for me, but chalk & cheese with the spin, more hiehgt height & spin, 800rpm (but standard loft, so that would count for that difference) p770s so much easier to control (for me that is) - loved every shot with the p790s which have helped me improve my game, which has allowed me to move to an even better player irons for me. Great video guys.
I looked at the 790s about 2 years ago and loved them. Got a great deal on Callaway Apex Pros and bought them instead. I'll be in the market again in the spring and will probably end up with the 790s this time.
I have the P770 for almost two weeks now. These are by far the best irons I have had so far. The 5 iron is just as easy to hit as an 8 iron.
Awesome, and lucky based on the delivery dates I'm seeing. Curious how you would describe your ball striking?? I'm leaning towards the 790s in 4 and 5 then getting into the 770s. Not a very consistent Striker, but decent club head speed.
What shafts did you go with?
@@bl6369 Nippon Pro Modus3 Tour 120, X-Flex. Played the same shaft in my old iron. Simply the best shaft in my opinion.
@@erikcrossley5048 I do not have a 4 iron, my setup is 5 - PW. I am also not the perfect ball striker. I could hit the 5 iron of my old irons, but I didn't really like doing it. Had to put in a lot of effort to get a good result. Even bad shots with the P770s give me better results than my old irons. Especially with the long irons, the P770 has given me a big boost in confidence.
@@christianmarkuz5519 oh cool. I never tryed those shafts. I tested modus105 and hit them good but just felt too light. I ultimatley went with the KBS tours which gave me best numbers and feel.
Great video and a very sound conclusion, guys. I'd love to see a head to head between P770 and JPX 921 Forged and/or Hot Metal Pro.
same here !
Nice video, best product reviews on UA-cam.
I love these when Luke Searle fitted me a few weeks back, but we couldn’t get them to stay straight, kept hitting a flat hook, hit the 790 got a lovely high fade.
@@zacharycuthill5060 I just leave it to the fitter bud. Lovely clubs. Just couldn't find a shaft that would give me the numbers and the flight i was after. (his words not mine)
A lot of players pick 790 over 770. A lot of very good players too.
Thanks to youtube and all the talk about how chunky many of the irons being reviewed are, the top line on my P760 irons is the biggest I can overlook on most shots. There is always a shot or two during a round though where I think, jeepers that top line is BIG. I otherwise really enjoy them.
I’m playing the 770’s . So far two rounds and several range sessions. Absolutely love them. Im getting plenty of spin with the scoring clubs and just the right amount of forgiveness in the longer irons. I was playing Srixon Z Forged MB’s.
I was very sold on the Mizuno Hot Metal Pro until I walked by the rack with the p770. Some decisions to be made for sure.
I love my 790's (4 handi). I only get out 1-2 times a month now, so the added forgiveness of the 790's is awesome. I would be interested in maybe combo-ing to a 770 8-pw maybe. This was just the test I was looking for! Thanks!!
Great review guys. Looks like a winner for Taylormade. I can see this and Mizuno’s Hotmetal Pro battling it out for top selling irons.
T100s by far a better iron
Finally !!! Somebody testing at equal loft. Thank you.!
Thanks for another great video!
Would love to see someone that is mid-high handicap hit a variety of irons from performance improving to player's irons, and getting their thoughts/hesitations from the lot. If you can't find a high handicapper willing, I make the perfect candidate :p haha
Great video as always! Love the channel! 🔥
Years ago(15-18) I played the ICW 5's by Taylormade. The 3-6 were cast/ perimeter weighted with an enclosed back to look like forged and the 7-PW were forged. They were ahead fo their time I guess. I am up for a fitting in mid-October and am looking forward to the iron combination conversaton
Awesome review. Thanks for posting..
@txg great vid boys. I thought Matty Boy might spin the 770 a bit more but really cool to see they were literally apples to apples. Crazy good irons. I found I hit them exactly the same but my spin rate went up quite a bit with 770 all while maintaing launch, speed and distance. AKA Unicorn irons:)
Great video guys. Really good to see if your a good ball striker that 770 is a better fit and if u miss a few sweet spots 790 might be a better choice👍
I own the previous generation P790's. Although they go far, I've found them to be 'heavy' if you know what I mean. I just tried the P770's at my home course, Rattlesnake Point. Let's just say I'm buying the 770's. They actually carried farther than my 790's measured on Trackman.
Same here. The 1st gen does feel a little heavy
Had a cool test idea. "Longest forged iron of 2020" with each iron set at the same loft with same shaft as in this video. Maybe pick longest forged iron from each manufacturer. Great video as always!
Now this I would like to see .. not 5 irons stamped with a "6" on it
Callaway Epic Forged or Cobra King Forged Tec. Both are rockets.
i have watched a ton of your videos this dude is a machine.
Purchased the P760's in January. Love them! Most consistent iron play I've had in a long time. Took me a few months to get comfortable with them, but very happy with my purchase.
Very interesting review, I would like to see a cobra king forged vs p770 ..😉🏌️♂️⛳️🍻
I currently game the 2019 p790s. They have been great clubs for me. That being said, I’m ordering p770s after getting fitted. Was worried about forgiveness but that went away after going to hit them on different days. Maybe it’s the more traditional lofts in the p770 that gave me tighter dispersion without any real distance loss. Also agree with softer feel like Matt said. I also went through the pxg fitting process. Was a good experience but I felt the Taylormade p790 and p770 were better for me.
As soon as I’m able to take a flight to your location I will travel for a full bag fitting... my bag today: M6 Driver D3, Ping G30 D3.5, P790 D2.5 from 4 to 9, ALL CLEVELAND WEDGES... PW 45 D4, GW 50 D4, SW 54 D4, LW 58 D4...
I need to stop watching the videos that show the same category of club I just bought
Currently playing P - 6 P770 standard lofts and P790 5 & 4 lofted to match the P770 5 & 4
I can't wait to get my P770s got fitted going to be sooooo sick
It would be interesting to see a comparison of the 2017-18 P-770s vs the new P-770s. I own the former and would be interested to see the differences in performance. Thanks, guys!
Would love to see a fit where you find the type of player that would benefit from these in like a 4-6 or 7 range but would out the MC in the bag for 7/8-wedge, and the process used to actually determine that?
I think that is the definition of me. I'm a former cavity blade player (Taylormade C300 Forged Lehman Miura clubs), 20 years off, went to Mizuno Hot Metal Pros, weakened them, took the 5 iron out because didn't like seeing the back of the club and replaced it with a 24 degree HMB 5 iron (carry 197). Still take my Titleist AP2s out to the range, 5 iron when flushed is amazing but doesn't hold a candle to the HMB 5 iron. I could easily combo the MCs & P770s - 5 HCP, 108 Driver speed
This! 👆🏻Paul O’Neil you sound like me. I started playing 3 yrs ago after taking about 10 yrs off and went from the old Titleist DCI 990 to a used set of the original P770. Didn’t care for the P770 in the shorter irons but loved them in 4-6. Went to MP18 MMC/SC combo. Best irons I’ve ever played but been drooling over the P7MC since they came out. So much that I ordered a 6 iron to my current specs and shaft to test. Love it! I’m a 7 hcp with a sometimes scratchy short game but a pretty consistent ball striker. I’m not getting any younger (51) and gapping 4-6 could use a boost. A potential P770 / P7MC combo has my interest. 6 iron 90-92mph and currently play PX6.5.
@@chrischampion727 we sound like clones - if the MP20 MMCs had of come out before the 919 Hot Metal Pros, I would have instantly bought them after testing. I did a lot of blade testing over a few day period so I got a pretty good feel for my ball striking and which club/loft, having the low in the head Tungsten, really makes a difference in the slight off-center hits - and that seems to be for me a 32 degree 7 iron. While I would, believe it or not, hit the 34 degree MP 20 Blade sometimes further than the 32 degree MMC (i think it is the additional mass directly behind the ball), it was the 1 in 4, 1 in 5 shot, where it was hit 1 groove low, that you would lose 7-10 yards (safe on the course yes - but the loss is real) versus the MMCs which would never miss. I've really bought into the 32 degree 'modern lofted' 7 iron and then I've also changed my loft gapping to slightly larger spreads so I can spread the traditional 47 degree PW to 24 degree 4 iron lofts using 1 less club - and thus gain a club. I've had TXG bend my Hot Metal Pros to (PW,9,8,8,6) & HMB 5 iron to (47,42,37,32,28,24) to give me carries of (133,146,159,172,185,197) - I then get 3 wedges (52/57/62) and 2 hybrids (21/17) and 3w&Driver. I also use a lighter shaft in my HMB 5 iron a graphite Steelfiber i110 - in my irons I use the 120gram DG S300 - I also use the Steelfiber i110CW shaft in my 22 degree #4 Gapr High (playing open at 21 degrees). If I was going to play the P7MC/P770 combo, I would try and do a similar setup that I created - but in this case, I think the 7 iron would be the problem as I would like to have tungsten/help in the toe and heel of the MC in a 32/33 degree 7 iron - but it isn't there - and I wouldn't want to go to a hot faced hollow-headed 7 iron - and thus I think the P760 line is still useful. The Titleist T100s also interest me, but I would order the PW & 9 in the non-S heads and blend to my specs (I really like a 47 degree PW)
@@wallstreetoneil I don't think the 770 has a "hot face" and you could get the forgiveness and feel from it in the 7 iron
@@erikcrossley5048 by hot-face, I mean it isn't a solid piece of metal. I was at a golf store today getting a wedge bent and I took a close look at the p770s - the PW sole width is an abomination - for anyone thinking of these clubs, order the P7MC PW instead. I would split the set at PW-8 (P7MCs) & 7-5(P770s) and bend the 7-5 to 32,28,24
Another great review guys. Any chance you’ll review the Wilson D7 forged? I imagine they are similar players distance irons. I’m looking for a fitting and new set of clubs....and I live way up in the NWT. Keep up the great content.
You know your TXG groupie when everyone around knows not to disturb you on TXG Live Monday...and even better what they don’t know won’t hurt them. 😂👍 🤫
MrsBandit has been asking why I have been even grumpier than normal today!
I told her that I'm worried about the World geopolitical position, but she just gave me that withering look and said, "Ian & Matty are having another Monday off aren't they"? Foiled again
Man so many good clubs, they always make it hard to choose... Been thinking of the p77s tho
I really like your videos and the approach which you’re using for the different fitting. I recently ordered the 2019 P•790 with a Nippon Steel 950GH neo shaft... -1” and 1 flat! I’m really interested in your opinion in regards to the shaft!?
I play the p730’s. And they’re the best club I have ever used!!! Won’t change... until the faces wear out haha.
Ian always looks GQ in Galvin Green. I cant ever look that kewl.
Great video! Still playing the OG P770s and love them but intrigued by these new versions. Was Matt using his typical shaft (DG X7)? Does he use that shaft for all of your iron tests?
I just got fitted a couple days ago at Golftec, 790 is what I ended up with. I like the 770 but on miss hits the 790 just out performed the 770 for me.
you guys should do a review of the new Haywood Signature MB irons
Would love to see P770 vs JPX 921 Tour or Forged
I’ve been waiting for this video!! Thanks fellas, lots of good info. How would you compare the 770 to the Ping i500? Is there any comparison, or does the 770 perform above and beyond the Ping? Thanks again!
I've really been enjoying the P790s. Also Matt might be the best golfer in the world.
Playing 716 ap2 11handicap.
Was fitted by Taylormade rep for combo set p770 A wedge to 7iron and p790 6 to 4 iron making my 4 hybrid redundant. Want to get 790 long irons on the course before pulling the trigger
Would be interested to see the p770s vs the Mizuno HMBs
These game-improvement irons are incredibly easy to hit in comparison with previous game improvements. I came from the Nike Covert Forged 2.0, a great iron in its time, and swapped to the MP-20 HMB, an iron very similar to the P790/P770. (tested these too). If you only look at them coming from an older iron, you might be scared and think blades, but man, these are so easy to hit, i'd say a 20+ hcp player would fit these just as good as a 5 hcp player. I really recommend try these irons out if you get a chance. These are a real game changer for a whole lot of people with old irons. You do not need to hit these hard to have use of them either. As someone else said below, a 5 iron of these is as easy as the 8 iron of the old. It truly is.
Excellent
Perfect timing! Deciding between these 2 irons right now. May go the combo route. Thanks for
The great info. Any advice for shaft If I want more spin? My iron spin is a bit on the low side (around 4900 for 7 iron when i was getting fitted) Was thinking NS Pro 950 GH Neo, would love to hear your thoughts.
Pretty sure I got the last set of 770s I’m the DFW area lol. Got the display set
Love all the info you guys provide. Thanks. How would you gap/fit a combo set of Titleist SM8 60, 55 and GW, Mizuno MP20 PW - 8 iron, Mizuno JPX921 TOUR 7-5 iron and P770 4 - 3 iron? Would you make the blades stronger lofts or fit longer shaft to make them go further? Would you use the same make and flex of shaft in all the irons except the 60 and 55? I haven't see much discussion about choosing the length of shaft in irons or deciding on the most suitable swing weight. What is the process?
Very happy with my 790s, but I wonder if the short irons are similar between these two because you lose the hollow body and speed slot in the 770 below the 7i.
P770 are on my short list and have been wondering how the 790's would combo in at the 4 & 5 iron so thanks boys. Now if Matty could just slow it down to around 85 would have been perfect. I don't hit my 4 iron 200.
I still love my 2018 P790s
Love 770’s!!
Would love to see a comparison with the Ping i500. Thx guys
So, It's all aesthetic? What's the outcome of performance across the face? I was hoping they dialled it in for greater consistency.
Excellent video guys!
Recently I was getting fit by a Taylormade rep and he noticed a slightly more spin, less distance from the 7i P770 in comparison to the 7i P790. Given the difference in stock lofts between these clubs that seemed logical. Your experimental data shows equally lofted the clubs would perform nearly identical. Rather than accept the difference in lofts as the disparity between clubs the rep thought changing shafts between both sets would be better than manipulating the lofts. He suggested I should be fit for P770 with KBS C Taper or P790 with KBS $ Taper.
This seemed well and fine until I watched this video. The idea of combining the 2 sets P790 (3i-5i) + P770(6i-AW) seems like a good idea. I would rather tweak lofts for gapping rather than have 2 different shafts for the 2 sets of clubs. Thoughts?
Could you guys clarify how you would gap the irons? The video is a little confusing as to degrees of loft for clubs. Video mentions P770 4i @ 21*, 5i @ 24.5*, 6i @ 28*. Wouldn't the P790s be the longer irons and transition to the p770s for the shorter irons?
Great comparison! I would love to see a head to head with P770 and the P7MC for those that think they would be a killer combo.
I know they’re a completely different design but how would you rate these vs the original P770? I played the original P770 and loved the forgiveness of long irons but the short irons just looked and felt kinda chunky to me so I moved on to MP18-SC.
I agree.
Taylormade have a blending chart between the sets but comparing a same loft 770 and a 7MC would be great to see.
Great video team. Question, what model Nike shoes is Matty wearing??
Waiting for your Ping 425 iron review.
Can you do the Tour Edge Exotics EXS Pro model? You guys had great results from an unfitted standard but never got the pro model. I think with the smaller head it could be a real beast. Looks like the perfect combo of Epic Flash and TS4
dudes got about as good a swing as one could have. Technically extremely sound.
its insane how consistent he is too. every shot is almost robotic and precise he is lol
Looking forward to my P770s arriving tomorrow
How long did they take to come in ?
@@suprand I'm in the UK and just under 2 months. I pre-ordered after a demo day in early august.
@txg. Is there a big difference in swingweight? I play 1.75 over standard so I’m worried about a combo set of 770 and MC. Play a CP2 oversize with 6 extra wraps. MC are stock D3 and 770 are D2
First off great breakdown of the irons. I'm in the market for P770 even though I haven't hit have hit the 790's.
Thinking of combo set 790's for 4/5 and 770 6-pw.
How would you gap these clubs. You had mentioned 4 at 21 5 at 24.5. Would you then strengthen the 770's by a degree?
Thanks!
I can’t wait for my p770 4, and 5 iron to get here. Unfortunately taylormade is so overwhelmed with demand that it’s probably going to be the end of the year before my custom order is built.
How long did it take to arrive?
@@lucas99554 it took 97 days
What kind of ball was being used in this test? Just wondering if you loved theirons but needed a little more spin if you could just add a higher spinning ball for the extra help
I miss the weekly therapy session with you guys ☹️
The P770 is the first TaylorMade club I’ve liked in a while aside from the P790.
Interestingly, for me the p770 spun more traditional and higher than my Srixon 785s and flew the same distance as the 785. Forgiveness was the main factor that has me wanting to put them in the bag.
I currently game the 785s and love them. But I hit them high and don't spin them a ton. Worried about hitting 770 too high. Where you kinda low with the 785s?
@@chill0902 I have Modus 120s in my 785s and they fly pretty high. I like the trajectory, stop pretty much where I land them which I love (on solid hits). The 770s were higher but didn't seem to float at all.
I wanted to get the P760. Hard to find off the shelf and no option for custom set. (August 2022) Would love TM to come out with a new version of P760
Whats your opinions on p770 vs apex pro 19 as far as forgiveness and flight characteristics?
You guys should have a show on the golf channel 🤔.
Great video although I do wish with both clubs you would purposefully hit few bad shots (off toe, heel, thin it) to test the forgiveness difference of each club.
Is there any heads with similar size
/Playability of the p770 that you would label as high spin for the player that needs more spin?
Hi Guys. Excellent content as usual. I don't like strong lofted clubs as i don't struggle for distance but the p790's might suit me better in terms of confidence.
Is it possible to change the loft of the p790 to be even as high as the P7MC or P770? Would this ruin the club somehow? My local fitter was suggesting that anything more than a 1 degree change would be too much. Thanks.
What would be some good options for someone who needs essentially the opposite of this?
I’ve got some P790’s but I tend to be a bit steep, but have a fair bit of forward shaft lean, goes for miles but 15 yards roll out on an 8 iron (155-160 carry)
You are the player P770 is made for. This tested them bent to the same lofts but the stock loft of P770 is weaker & will give you much more spin than P790 at stock lofts. You will lose some distance though.
I love the idea of combo’ing clubs in the set. 790/770/P7MB could be nice. Where would you look add the blades at the bottom of your set? Would you intro it at the 9-PW? Or would you start the transition at the 8 iron? I have a full set of Titleist 716 T-MB now and I struggle with my scoring clubs 7-pw. The feel with these just isn’t where I want it to be and I’m looking to change things up. Looking at U500/CB/MB combo if I keep it in the Titleist fam. Thanks for another great video.
T100s all the way by far better feel
Compare against the PXG 0211’s?
I saw a test where the 0211 was very comparable performance wise as the Gen3 0311’s.....
And at $89 a stick......
Was pleasantly surprised how similar the were across the board. They will be one that I expect to hit when I fly over from Edmonton to get fitted in about a year for a full fitting when my rotator cuff is healed and I get my game back close to normal.
So if you went 790 - 4 iron, 5 iron and 770 - 6 iron, 7 iron, 8 iron what would be the model if you wanted to move into something more blade like for the 9,PW, GW. I recently switch from my cleavland GW because it was a smother tradition since i chip with my PW a lot and I really like playing those similar chips shots exactly the same with either clubs.
Would that model selwaalunsyagger your clubs?
My set of p790 4-6 and p770 7 - AW should finally arrive this week despite being ordered in late August. Oban CT 115 stiff shafts. I’d be interested in your views on how to gap the bridge between p790 6 and p770 7. I think the fitter has recommended adjusting p770s to meet 790 lofts i.e 7 at 30.5
Would you combo again or just go 770 or 790?
Would you recommend combo-ing the P770 with the P7MC?
Do they differ a lot in feel?
Hi guys, could you please do a video explaining how one set of irons can have constant gaps of 4 degrees through the set and a different have gaps starting at 5 then 4 then 3 and sometimes 2, I just do not understand how you can get proper gapping, would absolutely love for you guys to able to explain or explain the problem, thanks Keith 👍