What Even Is This Club - TaylorMade P790 Irons Review

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  • @chiglf4argy227
    @chiglf4argy227 Рік тому +40

    Ahhhhh, “Let’s get stuck in”. Like old times. Love it.

  • @johnk.atchley5079
    @johnk.atchley5079 Рік тому +23

    Fully agree with you. I have for years played forged blades with traditional lofts, Mizuno MP-33s and now another that is almost identical to the MP-33. But I also admit at age 82 it would be nice to have some lost distance back. My 34 degree 7 iron used to be my 150 carry club 20 years ago, then 140 10 years ago, and then a year ago down to 130. My clubs had 120 gram stiff Rifle Lite shafts, needed lighter, so had a second set of the same heads built with 87.5 gram Nippon NS Pro Zelos 8 stiff shafts. That helped add 5 or 6 yards carry on average, up to 141 on a perfect shot. This past week I tested the new Titleist T150 and T200 7 irons with Nippon NS Pro 950 GH R flex shafts at the PGA Superstore I go to that has practice bays with Foresight GC Hawk launch monitors. Was pleasantly surprised, got added carry with essentially the same height, descent angle and spin. Then a day ago I tested the 2023 P790 7 iron with a DG 95 regular shaft. Previously had not found the P790 appealing for sound and feel. But this time I was really impressed. It looks good, topline not too thick even for me. It sounds good, there is a definite crack to a good strike, but it is a solid one, not at all tinny. Best of all, I got 14 yards more carry on average, which one might expect from a 30.5 degree loft versus 34 degree, but in addition I got 6 to 7 mph more ball speed, even greater peak height, less than one degree lower descent angle, and the runout (total yds vs carry) was less, meaning the ball will stop on the green better than with my own 34 degree 7 iron. Ironic, no? (Sorry, couldn't resist the pun.) I have always thought that the trend to stronger lofts was kind of a marketing gimmick, and turning a 7 iron into a 5 iron might give more distance, but at the expense of a lower descent angle and longer runoff, so shots would not hold the green. But the P790 has proven me wrong. And you are right. TM is really on to something.

    • @RJWSuffolk
      @RJWSuffolk Рік тому +3

      Thanks for this insight

    • @davidscott9341
      @davidscott9341 Рік тому +3

      Hi would just like to thank you for this as I am on same path as you and this will help me in my future golf

  • @daviddicker6288
    @daviddicker6288 Рік тому +9

    Thank god someone can do a decent review of the p790 very good mark anybody thinking of buying these do not watch RS review on how not to hit a golf ball

    • @NicFau
      @NicFau 11 місяців тому +4

      Just came from his video and was extremely concerned.

  • @jonathanthomason7896
    @jonathanthomason7896 Рік тому +10

    Your swing has evolved more than clubs have brah!

    • @MarkCrossfield
      @MarkCrossfield  Рік тому

      💯

    • @markscott3267
      @markscott3267 Рік тому

      @@MarkCrossfieldI visited Newquay last week and it prompted me to watch your old video with Buzz, Harper and Pickard. Your swing is unrecognisable. Everything was pat pat!

  • @richardboyce8536
    @richardboyce8536 Рік тому +5

    Would be great to see you do a head to head comparison with 2021 790’s. Only because I trust your opinion over so many others that are doing reviews. Thanks.

    • @canyonaro
      @canyonaro Рік тому +2

      Other reviewers have done this (ahem, TXG). Slight improvement in spin & descent angle. The more interesting story is that they tried to make the flight more consistent through the whole set with the different structures inside each iron.

  • @Orryv
    @Orryv Місяць тому +1

    Execlent vid. I'm very pleased with the p970!

  • @trxe420
    @trxe420 Рік тому +2

    The distance was nice in my fitting, coming off Mizuno MP18 blades, but what sold me on the clubs was 1) The dispersion, it was as tight as I have ever seen when I got the right shaft in it, 2) I was able to still work it (just not as much). I also did not have any hot shots after 2 hours of testing, they were all pretty much within 10 yards of each other and this was with me hitting normal all over the face shots and a few with a positive angle of attack. I was trying to get more forgiveness with the same workability I am accustomed too with my Mizuno's. Also testing the 225's and those were similar, but not as good of dispersion for me and I liked the muted satin look of these better. Yes, in the end, looks still matter. Great review Mark, really liked the distance control at the end that is super important!

    • @2013YASLS
      @2013YASLS Рік тому

      What was your gapping like? I've read comments and seen other videos where PW-9-8-7 are spaced out and then 4-5-6 are bunched up. But this is likely a function of the strong lofts and swing speed of user.

    • @trxe420
      @trxe420 Рік тому

      @2013YASLS it wasn't bad at all with the 2023s, if you look at the lofts at the top of the bag they are much more traditional that you would think.

    • @paulbutler5052
      @paulbutler5052 Рік тому

      Same here I had mp-4’s which I loved but hitting the height and therefore stopping in 6-4 irons is what sold me. I have titleist wedges 58, 54, 50 and 46 to make up for the distance of my p790 wedge.

  • @timshearer9145
    @timshearer9145 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for taking us to the course, so much better review .the spin numbers, sound , feel comments outside mean so much

  • @leafs2994
    @leafs2994 11 місяців тому +1

    Playing Rsi1 irons for last 8 years. Would P790 or Stealth irons be a huge improvement in accuracy ? Thank you. Love the videos

  • @sl1ck557
    @sl1ck557 8 місяців тому +5

    I waited until I broke 90 to get myself a set of irons (that’s 2 years of saving up!) and bought this set 3-4 months ago.
    There is always a honeymoon phase with golf equipment, but these have to be the best purchase I made toward my golf game. My 4th round with them I shot an 83! I usually shoot low to mid 90’s. Haven’t shot higher than 92 since I got these clubs.
    I feel much more confident laying up and hitting 4 iron off the tee instead of driver, being rewarded for playing it safe is always nice (most of my strokes are from hitting it OB with driver).

    • @mre_man
      @mre_man 7 місяців тому

      How about your GIRs? I always hear these irons have hot spots and dispersion front to back not great.

    • @sl1ck557
      @sl1ck557 7 місяців тому

      @@mre_man Considering I went from Nike Cavity Back irons the dispersion is much better for me.
      Let me preface by saying everyone’s swing is different, but when I hit these vs the Titleist T-200’s my dispersion was much tighter with the 790’s and distance wasn’t much different.

  • @mrmatt8949
    @mrmatt8949 3 місяці тому +1

    Good looking clubs

  • @rockitman7276
    @rockitman7276 Рік тому +2

    Gorgeous looking iron💯👍

  • @simonhague2674
    @simonhague2674 Рік тому +2

    Hi Mark,
    Any chance you could do a compare of the Titleist T200 vs these P790's..?

  • @SolomonLi
    @SolomonLi Рік тому +1

    Love the throwback review Mark! The iron looks the biz… but, that is definitely some big dent in the pocket for someone like me.

  • @randallpennington5976
    @randallpennington5976 Рік тому +3

    I am lucky to play 3 times a month and when I switched from players irons to game improvement irons I dropped from a 9 to a 4 handicap with no practice! Never going back!

    • @davidthomas7032
      @davidthomas7032 3 місяці тому +1

      I’m playing off 10 and using Srixon 785 and are great irons but from 7 down to 4 iron I’m struggling and want to go p790

    • @randallpennington5976
      @randallpennington5976 3 місяці тому +1

      @@davidthomas7032 I gave up long irons also! My longest is a 7 with the rest being hybrids. I just saw Fred Couples did the same!

  • @edpearce2281
    @edpearce2281 Рік тому +4

    Hi Mark, will you be doing course vlogs again in the future?

  • @mcnillerandsons7906
    @mcnillerandsons7906 Рік тому

    How do you feel about the gap wedge in this set? Worth using or do you recommend buying 50 degree?

  • @danielseddon6138
    @danielseddon6138 Рік тому +1

    Great review 👏

  • @eriksaia6274
    @eriksaia6274 Рік тому +1

    Mark, that Cleveland golf hat is 🔥

  • @GOLFADDICT65
    @GOLFADDICT65 Місяць тому

    Hey i can get a new set of Taylormade P-790's 6 - PW , AW for ( 950 Canadian ) ( 675 US ) a smoking deal i think 700 discount but i am trying to choose between them vs the PXG BLACK OPS 5 - PW , AW ( 1100 canadian ) vs the TAKOMO 101's 4 - PW ( 850 canadian ) what are your thoughts for distance , foregivness , feel thx I appreciate picking your brain and getting your opinion I will be 60 in March and am an 8 handicap thx again for taking the time to give me your welcomed input cheers from Canada

  • @FYD888
    @FYD888 Рік тому

    awesome video mate! those irons look so dam nice!

  • @MrLanceboil
    @MrLanceboil 7 місяців тому

    Hi mark..... how would you compare these to your zx4 mk11s? pls

  • @Michael-yz4mc
    @Michael-yz4mc 5 місяців тому

    Absolutely great clubs

  • @justinstephenson9360
    @justinstephenson9360 Рік тому +2

    I have always liked the looks of the P790 right from the first version onwards. When I have tried them I like the performance, a bit longer than my i210s and spin is a touch low for me but both of those difference are purely loft driven. There are 2 downsides for me - they are just a bit too big for my eye (the P770s though are perfect) and unfortunately I have a bad experience of TM's manufacturing quality control in the irons or maybe it is just that their manufacturing tolerances are a bit too loose.
    I am not anti TM, my driver is a Stealth. Is there likely to be a new P770 soon?

    • @lukehickson3880
      @lukehickson3880 Рік тому

      New P770 irons came out this year and look a lot like second generation P790.

    • @theythinkimmadyouknow
      @theythinkimmadyouknow Рік тому

      I am using all TM clubs and honestly have had no quality issues with anything from the M4 up to my new Stealth 2 driver and woods, so don't let that put you off. If you don't like the looks however, I'd stay clear.

    • @justinstephenson9360
      @justinstephenson9360 Рік тому

      @@theythinkimmadyouknow in fairness it was a few years back with a set of M1 irons but the lie angles were random, the 6i and 7i had almost the same loft and the filling in one of the speed slots fell out within a couple of months of getting them. M1s were a really hard iron to bend back into correct loft and lie. Moved onto Ping i210s which when delivered were all exactly in accordance with spec. But I do like TM clubs, am considering the new MG4 wedges which look really good

    • @theythinkimmadyouknow
      @theythinkimmadyouknow Рік тому

      @@justinstephenson9360 yeah, the mg4 looks really good, kinda thinking about them myself!

    • @usa4x4trucks
      @usa4x4trucks Рік тому

      Manufacturing tolerance for which attribute? Are we talking about lie & loft or actual component tolerance?
      The only issue I have is the flatness tolerance for the 2020 P770 irons and 2019 P790 on the back (non playing side) face. Their flatness spec is either very large or their Cpk is very small but yet acceptable for sign off on. On those models of irons, you tip them to the light and you see a lot of oil can dents fresh out of the wrapper. I sent back my 4-iron and 8-iron from my set because of this. TM did send me 2 replacement irons that were much better. I think this is the reason that they went to a Matte finish on the next gen. The matte finish hid any imperfections. I wonder if later runs of the earlier P770/P790 had this flaw due to tool wear - maybe their tools weren’t touched up since they knew that were moving on?

  • @patrickdegraaf2766
    @patrickdegraaf2766 Рік тому

    miss the part you compair them to the last model, as you said in the beginning. they look more like players irons where the older model looked a bit more chunky..

  • @garyr2723
    @garyr2723 Рік тому

    How do they compare to the previous 2021 P790?

  • @johndupuis7220
    @johndupuis7220 2 місяці тому

    Anyone have issues with the shorter irons playing “short” distance wise ?

  • @paulrachetta935
    @paulrachetta935 Рік тому

    What do you think about a combo. P790 4-7. P770 8-p?

  • @MichaelSimmons-j8k
    @MichaelSimmons-j8k 8 місяців тому

    Just taken delivery 😊

  • @brentcolby7670
    @brentcolby7670 Рік тому +2

    STOP IT, another honest review of a taylormade product.

  • @jackwest5295
    @jackwest5295 Рік тому +2

    Looks like they have taken design ideas - elements from Ping i230 ..

  • @geewilliams2178
    @geewilliams2178 Рік тому

    If i was to go for a fitting these would, with out question, be in the test.

  • @jonmc73
    @jonmc73 Рік тому +3

    Although 47.8 degrees is a decent angle, is it a descent angle?

  • @dj-flights7376
    @dj-flights7376 Рік тому +1

    Would this be the 4th version of the p790? Or was this a review for version 3?

    • @MarkCrossfield
      @MarkCrossfield  Рік тому

      It's the latest version.

    • @dj-flights7376
      @dj-flights7376 Рік тому

      @@MarkCrossfieldI'm still on version 1, they're holding up nicely. Hey do you have a video on dropping the hands at the start of the downswing? I'm having trouble starting the swing like a whip but also dropping at the same time. Feels impossible to both.

  • @tcofield1967
    @tcofield1967 Рік тому

    They are not cheap. I ordered a set two days ago to replace my 2019 model P790s and it cost some serious cash. But I have always liked these irons, they fit my kind of game.
    These are the irons that someone that hits the ball well, but doesn't have that extremely fast swing speed, could use. I am in my 50s and just don't hit my clubs as far as I did just 10 years ago. Knowing that I looked at clubs that could improve my ability to get my irons out there a bit farther while at the same time still have some kind of control.
    Are the 2023 version of the irons better than my 2019? Probably not to be honest. Distances were identical. Dispersion seemed pretty close. The biggest reason I changed was because my current set was bought used and the lie angle is about one degree off from what I need. I have trouble fading these irons and no trouble drawing them and it turns out they were 1.5 degrees up. Even bent back they were still to high. But, if it wasn't for that I probably wouldn't switch.

    • @garrywilcox2921
      @garrywilcox2921 Рік тому +1

      Love my 2019 ,don't think I'll switch just yet but if I didn't already own p 790 I would be wanting these.

    • @tcofield1967
      @tcofield1967 Рік тому

      @@garrywilcox2921 I probably wouldn’t have either except for the lie issue I have with the irons. They were 1.5 degrees upright and after bending are about 3/4 upright. It’s better but I still tend to hit shots left. After fitting I don’t have this problem. I agree that there probably isn’t a major need to change if you hit the current set well.

  • @cobweb1989
    @cobweb1989 Рік тому

    Looks like you found the previous years price. These are more for the 2023 version which you tested.

  • @marccampbell4739
    @marccampbell4739 Рік тому

    Mark how comparable is this to the Srixon ZX4?

  • @shizzymcfrizzy4016
    @shizzymcfrizzy4016 Рік тому

    Haven’t seen lockey in a bit did i miss something?

  • @richardwheatley8757
    @richardwheatley8757 Рік тому

    Mark idea? 3 styles of iron head with different shafts for 70, 80 and 90 mph swing speeds what data would you achieve? Only you could make sense of that?

  • @williamludwick77
    @williamludwick77 Рік тому +2

    When i checked TM site directly, I see the following for P790s:
    2021 $1099.99 for 7 clubs (4-PW)
    2023 $1399.99 for 7 clubs (4-PW)
    2023 $1599.99 for 8 clubs (4-PW, AW)
    So older model will he about $160 per club while newest is $200.
    Note: Amounts are US Dollar.

    • @trxe420
      @trxe420 Рік тому

      Mine (2023) were $1399 USD for 7 clubs + shaft upgrades, grips and the fitting lol. You're numbers match mine though, it is what it is I guess.

  • @paulmcgee1867
    @paulmcgee1867 Рік тому +1

    From photos I have seen it seems surprisingly close to Stealth maybe too close and people say that with Taylormade you should always have lofts and lies checked

  • @caseyjones3906
    @caseyjones3906 Рік тому

    After hitting the full set, would you recommend the Gap wedge with that set vs a vokey if we typically take full swings with that club? Wondering if the 45 degree wedge is going to leave a big gap with SW, etc

    • @robertpoche1585
      @robertpoche1585 Рік тому

      Would recommend the AW. The PW is pretty strong lofted and you will have a pretty big yardage gap between it and your SW. I like my P790 AW alot

    • @cuttsp
      @cuttsp Рік тому

      I went and got fitted at Golf Galaxy. I hit every brand. Using their launch monitor we dialed in to the 790. Spent time getting the right shaft and you can see on the monitor the difference. Love them and my game is improving. I still have to spend time on the range.

  • @usa4x4trucks
    @usa4x4trucks Рік тому

    I know looks shouldn’t matter, but I am getting a bit tired of the matte finish on the irons. I’d like to see a set that looks like my 2020 P770 irons. Mostly brushed steel with a bit of shine and just a little stripe of matte where the model number is.
    Performance is paramount, but looks in the bag also matter when I’m dropping $1200 plus on a set of only 6 irons. Wish they had more of a Titleist T-series look to them.

  • @santiagodeponce9390
    @santiagodeponce9390 Рік тому

    Very thick top line

  • @WerebearEnjoyer
    @WerebearEnjoyer 4 місяці тому

    I find it funny how even golf clubs are now affected by the whole companies saying AI is in all their products.

  • @rogerlindgren148
    @rogerlindgren148 Рік тому

    Will the 2nd hand market explode when pricing for new stuff has become mental? There is virtually tons of great clubs available on that market. At less than half the price compared to the new blingy stuff that’s been pushed out now

  • @mikepariseau5157
    @mikepariseau5157 Рік тому

    25 handicap - Should i get Stealth or P790

  • @kevinrobertson5419
    @kevinrobertson5419 Рік тому

    7 piece set 1800 Canadian dollars

  • @theChef1337
    @theChef1337 Рік тому +2

    The new New NEW P790

  • @CR7hg
    @CR7hg Рік тому

    Watching Marks swing in slow motion. He gets to the top and his wrist is perfect. When I get to the top my wrist bends causing my right arm at elbow bend even more. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO STOP IT FROM BENDING ON THE TOP OF THE SWING? Played golf for 10 years but even people that just started golf dont have that issue.

  • @rexgould
    @rexgould Рік тому

    Got fitted 2 weeks ago, came down to these and the cobra forged tec. Ultimately the cobras had a tighter dispersion and slightly more distance. For me, the cobras were the obvious choice, for someone else the p790’s my be the right fit

  • @jarhead767
    @jarhead767 Рік тому +1

    Just can’t beat the ZX5 mkii. Looks and performance are magic and tend to cost less than clubs like P790

  • @killacamfoo
    @killacamfoo Рік тому +2

    It really is staggering how much these things are now. I'd get fit but buy used heads and shaft accordingly. Probably a far better deal if you can work on clubs yourself.

    • @boswellwhanau
      @boswellwhanau Рік тому +1

      Wait a year and get this years model next year when its cheaper ;)

  • @NotempoT
    @NotempoT Рік тому

    I wouldn't want to demo a club with those adjustable fitter's hosel.

  • @markspence5288
    @markspence5288 5 місяців тому

    I don’t think that’s a bad price really

  • @BAyernaKED
    @BAyernaKED Рік тому +3

    The T350s are too good this year to be looking at anything else in the category

    • @MarkCrossfield
      @MarkCrossfield  Рік тому +2

      Yeah they are nice.

    • @canyonaro
      @canyonaro Рік тому +3

      Different category. The direct competition is the T200 & they're VERY similar.

  • @stevecrombie8421
    @stevecrombie8421 Рік тому +2

    I game 2019 P790…….no need to change.
    My advice…..buy some 2019’s they will do the same thing and be 30% of the price.
    Plus unless you play off 2, don’t bother with a fitting waste of time
    Just make sure the length is correct and lie angle is standard

  • @petekenny3774
    @petekenny3774 Рік тому +2

    Is it any better then the first version 2017😂😂🤯🤷🤷

    • @MarkCrossfield
      @MarkCrossfield  Рік тому +1

      Not really.

    • @paulmcgee1867
      @paulmcgee1867 Рік тому

      Dispersion better? Spin? Flight ?

    • @MarkCrossfield
      @MarkCrossfield  Рік тому +3

      @@paulmcgee1867 dispersion would be IMPOSSIBLE to measure (it would be player specific not club)
      Flights pretty much the same. Nothing is moving remember. They look a bit different and sounds can change.
      No magic here. 👍👍

    • @petekenny3774
      @petekenny3774 Рік тому +2

      @@MarkCrossfield exactly my thoughts they just look prettier possibly their the same club TM have a winner here so why change it ...anyone who wants to buy look at 2017 and the nicest one imho are the 2019 model...even so I play srixon zx4s love em

    • @paulmcgee1867
      @paulmcgee1867 Рік тому +1

      @@MarkCrossfield I will stick with my Sim2s then!

  • @147cubster
    @147cubster Рік тому +2

    I want a guitar review😂

  • @Betheball1966
    @Betheball1966 Рік тому

    Been saying this for years. Please stop kicking the clubs 😢😮😂

  • @AaronCollins-if6qr
    @AaronCollins-if6qr 7 місяців тому

    Normally, I turn straight off when mark reviews Taylormade product, I have been a „follower“ for years, but let’s be honest he hates Taylormade. I agree their hype on new clubs can be too much, but, they are now the biggest brand in golf. Hence the Pros they have on the rotate. So nice to see a half honest review, if you ignore the little ‚digs‘

  • @Devlins10
    @Devlins10 Рік тому +1

    Those are some solid chem trails behind you lol

  • @normlang1994
    @normlang1994 Рік тому +3

    Looks like a Takomo 101T...which is about half the price.

    • @simonhuss9619
      @simonhuss9619 Рік тому

      And the caleys

    • @MXJEFF94
      @MXJEFF94 Рік тому +1

      With a 1/3rd of the resale value. When I buy clubs they have to have resale value on the back end. The DTC companys are nice up front....but no one wants to buy it on the back end.

    • @normlang1994
      @normlang1994 Рік тому +1

      @@MXJEFF94 anything I buy will have limited resell because they're 1" longer and 2 degrees upright, stiff with midsize grips.

  • @josey777cat
    @josey777cat Рік тому +1

    What happen to course vlogs, I miss the muppets. Bored watching how you hit a ball and remakes of clubs that are all the same.

  • @davidtomsett
    @davidtomsett Рік тому

    This club is a custom fit club!

  • @auriferous4462
    @auriferous4462 Рік тому

    It's all fun and games till the face cave or crack. But don't worry "TaLoRMade WiLl rEplACE it FoR fRee".

  • @YKATO871
    @YKATO871 Рік тому +1

    $2800 NZD😭

  • @mugz_1437
    @mugz_1437 Рік тому

    5 to wedge is £1200 but most sites have them on offer already for £1050 a lot of money and if you want an Approach or 4 iron then your looking at around £1300 plus. For a new set of irons and woods it’s over 2k now it’s sickening

    • @YKATO871
      @YKATO871 Рік тому

      Agreed..$2800NZD for 4-PW😭😭

  • @Robert-kn5fj
    @Robert-kn5fj Рік тому

    How can you review a set of clubs with progressive "Flighted CG" with just the 7 iron? The practice of sending out 7 irons as review samples needs to change. This review tells me nothing because as far as I can tell the reviewer hasn't even played the clubs. One club does not a review make.

    • @MarkCrossfield
      @MarkCrossfield  Рік тому

      You believe one club will flight/launch/spin in the window but the other won’t.
      If so, please find me the unicorn 🦄 field when you find it.

  • @uwrossl
    @uwrossl Рік тому

    I think they look terrible. Somehow look chunkier. T200 looks miles better while in same category. Still manages to look like a players iron at address.

  • @douglastaylor43
    @douglastaylor43 Рік тому +1

    I learned nothing

    • @MarkCrossfield
      @MarkCrossfield  Рік тому +6

      Haha 😂 haha 😂 this is wild if you think about it.
      The video is packed with info.
      Doug could
      know about this club already,
      Know everything ever,
      Not watched
      Not listened,
      Or just be a troll.
      Very hard to know which. Apart from that, great comment.
      We learnt nothing from your comment. Hang on; maybe we learnt everything. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @charliehooks5801
    @charliehooks5801 Рік тому

    Players Hollow body, there I named them

  • @anthonybending2687
    @anthonybending2687 Рік тому +1

    👍