Bought an XOP Vanish Evolution four years ago from Amazon for $150. It was an open box return, but in "like new" condition. Platform footprint is the same as the Rubicon, and comes in just 1lb heavier than the Rubicon; no sweat. It has served me very well. People need to wake up and stop throwing away thousands of dollars by feeding the glutenous hunting industry. I appreciate XOP keeping it real for the average middle class hunter that works hard for their money.
I agree the vanish is an absolute perfect first or second or even third purchase. Especially the new 2024 version. 2024 is a tad bit lighter and seems stronger than the earlier model
They also have the gamma backpack straps. It was on sale for $50. Definitely worth it. It has 3 compression straps that can attach your backpack to the back of the stand. I know you use parachord but the compression straps are very convenient. Especially if you had to pack something out with you.
You sold me, I was debating on ordering the Lone Wolf but watching your first review on this the money difference is worth the buy prior to your 3 weeks of using it and giving complete review. I’ll just check it out on my own and see for myself
Hey jason! All you have to do is drill a tiny hole about 1-2” below the versa button and drop it down! Makes the stand even more secure and it’s out the way of the strap now!
glad i found this video. Was pretty close to the buy once cry once method for a lone wolf. Still may go down that route but I cannot stomach that $ that easily. Excited to hear how this worked out for you.
I’m glad you mentioned the versa button and batwing being so close together. That is my only minor gripe so far. Setting the stand a lot, I’ve noticed I’m not a super fan of where the strap ends up in relation to the points of the tree bracket if you get just a little angle on it. Maybe I’m doing something wrong, I really try to get my straps very level and very tight before setting them, but it’s a thing I’ve noticed.
Yep i can see thst being a spot to watch just by looking at the distance in pictures. But I do like how it fits between the straps on average to big sized trees. On small size trees I have not tried it yet but will report back when I figure out the best way to set it up on the skinny ones.
The mesh seat looks pretty narrow front to back. Like your tailbone would be more on the metal rod section. Anxious to hear your overall review after putting it through the paces!
@jimpeterson3806 sat on it for about 20 mins when I first got it. Very impressive so far. i will find out on this trip. But so far the seat is absolutely amazing
@@SamkoTradBow. Would the seat fit on the Lonewolf custom? (Brackets are the same size? ) Love my LWC, but I hate the seat & would switch it out if I could
For anyone watching this trying to decide what is right for them. Or is shopping around for their first mobile set up. I absolutely would choose XOP. And i wouldn't turn my nose up at an affordable option like the vanish evolution (especially the new 2024 version) For the price the Vanish doesn't get any better! But this Rubicon is the bee's knees! The cold world is another awesome lock on! XOP has become my choice for affordability and quality. I really hope they stick with the price ranges they run their products on. It truly works and gets us out there hunting in this economy 😅
Great review! Smh as to how we went from $50 loc on lems to $600 hang ons. I guess its just inflation. My first job paid less than $4 hour and you couldn’t get someone out of bed for that these days.
@mb748 used to use Crawford steps all the time loved them. I just put them loose in a pouch. Grab a step as I climbed and pull it out of the pouch to hang.
I’m torn between the rubicon and the ion but I think the rubicon’s big enough for me being 6’2” and 130 lbs w 13 shoe. I have always been for 30 plus years a climber stand hunter so I’m learning something new. I have a great HSS harness and lineman’s belt. I think I understand the process but I will be practicing a lot. I still find it hard to believe you can set up by a loc on as fast as a climber but not doubting it just the same. My favorite climber my “ treewalker” has about the same bottom base demensions as the rubicon. Hell I might buy both of them and have the x2 sticks already on the way. Appreciate the info!
I just bought this stand and I love it to. Only thing I didn’t like about it was the top versa button is to close to the stand off. The stand off was biting in to my cam strap unless I really got it set perfectly and then it was still almost touching it. I lowered the versa button down the post a lil bit and man I honestly feel like this is one of the best stands I’ve ever owned and def the cheapest!!
Yep the versa button location is close to the bracket. But love how they chamfered the bracket and rounded it so the strap fits over it. the beast stand was the same way but the bat wing was crazy sharp and you had to be very careful
They guys at XOP were awesome nothing bad to say about them. But I tried this stand out and it would not hook/bite into a tree on the platform side. If I didn’t have that issue I would of loved the stand
@SamkoTradBow Well flip the world upside-down. Today I fletched up a carbon arrow with 4" AA&E Trad Vanes. Shot it out of 4 different bows. With 100gr Magnus Stinger and 200gr Jaeger's cut on contact Ashby myth broadheads. They all flew like a bullet. Me and my hunting buddy also stood behind a tree as the various arrow tips and bows launched them by. Eye opening. Even 3 fletch straight fletch is noisy in flight. The trad vane 3 fletch 4" 7° right helical.....dead silent. I am sold. Now on something slower than the mail....probably not a big deal. I tend to try and always shoot at or above 200fps.
@@SamkoTradBow I would use both straps. I would hate for you to be hanging out on your tree harness. I misspoke. I fletch with EZ Fletch. It is 6° Right Helical. Not that 1 degree matters much. I just like to be accurate with my comments.
Nice stand for the money! I will stay with my Assault 2stand the seat on the X0P is nice but i like keeping the seat up and leaning on it some times. Don't think it would work for that and the smaller V on it and 1.0 isn't the same as the Assaults2. Hope you have a great 3 week hunt!! Thanks again
@george2099 i still believe the assault is the best stand made. But for the money and features of this stand it very well could be my second favorite. I can not wait to put it thru it's paces on my trip to see how it proves itself
I owned 2 XOP Vanish stands, the same platform as the Rubicon but cast seat. The only thing I didn't like was the narrow V for the teeth on the platform. On wider trees it only contacts on the outside 2 teeth and I observed some wobble. I switched to the Air Raid that has a wider notch, larger platform, and only 1.5# heavier on my scale.
I’ve found mesh seats to be less sturdy in the front of the seat during all day sits…which has led to more moving around to get comfortable. I have modified mine to increase the stiffness in the front, while still using the padding.
I have not used the bottom strap on any stand in my life. But doesn't mean it's not a good thing to do. Will help with any chance of kick out and 2 straps is be6ter than one
@@jessenoble1399 od probably use an adjustable bungie strap or id make my own out of paracord with a hook on each end and use a tautline hitch to adjust fast
I was gonna buy this stand until the Coldworld went on sale for $299 and I got a discount code for another 15% off so to my door was $255. Yes a tick smaller but a bit lighter too. Now I do have some complaints on the Coldworld 1-the grippy paint is great for traction but tears clothing up or anything it touches. FYI stealth strips don’t stick to it. 2-the seat is comfortable but not as comfortable as the mesh would be. Other than those two things I have NO complaints!!!! I have about 20 sits from 2hrs to 5hrs in it and even though seat isnt optimal it work fine. I also saddle hunt and have used a rock harness in stands for 20yrs so getting butt relief and honestly back relief is as easy as raising the tether level to head high and I can suspend like I’m hybrid hunting. I know it’s not made in USA but for half the price it’s hard to beat!!!!! This rubicon is gonna be a purchase I make to have a 2nd or 3rd stand setup in case I switch trucks or in case I’m taking a camera man or even as a stand to sit behind the kids ladder stand. Hell in case something breaks on my primary setup. Your right Jason $220 is impossible to beat. 3 basically for price of 1 LWCG, Beast or Elevate. Great video for a Great product.
@@pathfinder5804 James Wood has the cold world and really likes it too. I'm very excited to put this stand thru it's paces on some all day hunts and see how it does
Try the xop X2s as well if you are open to new sticks. They are my favorite sticks out of the many I’ve used. Or the x3 in your case since you like full sized sticks
I have an XOP but not the rubicon and I really like it. What I dont like is the narrow v bracket . On just regular trees you only have two points of contact and it tends to wobble. So please pay attention to that when you do your final review
The v bracket on back of the platform is exact same width as a lone wolf custom gear 1.0. As long as you stomp to set the stand so it slides and locks zero wobble
I got my Rubicon in last week. I ordered one after watching your last video recommendation on the XOP. After watching this video, I'm glad I ordered one. I can't wait to try it!
I have a video on both. On my channel search type tree stand set up. The ones with the straps will show up. If you search paracord straps the other will show up
The mesh seat looks nearly identical to the Millennium M7 seat, which is surprisingly comfortable. The only downside for me was I couldn’t comfortably turn my butt to face any other direction than facing forward.
Awsome videos ! Cant help but wait until your next one comes out helped me alot . And settled my mind on alot of things i wasnt sure of ! One question i have for you hope you can steer me right dorection in this . I have been using a saddle since it become the hype but i can not get myself to enjoy jt the way i used to woth my old wimdwalker stand . Should i go back to what i know and what feels good to me or keep trying to use something bc eveyone saying its better ? I know it’s a stupid qeustion but woth your experince i feel like you would be truthful . Thank you
@DanielMohammed-bb4gq never a stupid question. And peer pressure sells and convinces the vast majority of people to do things. Also the reason many of my videos go against the current "grain". People want saddles, I hate saddles. People want mini sticks, I hate mini sticks. People say a expensive stand is better than a cheaper one, People say fancy clothes are mandatory, People say we need to shoot narrow broadheads, etc. The list goes on and on. Find what works best for you and use it without giving one second of thought to what others are doing. Your experiences is all that matters for your hunting. And trying to keep up with the Jones is a vicious loss of originality, and originality is what makes use the best we can be
Had a beast stand for 2 years. Loved it. Sold it after moving to Georgia and wearing bulk snake boots all the time. Just a little too narrow for the bulky boots. Love this rubicon. Been in it all day everyday for a week now. Love it
I’m very intrigued. I hate that i spent twice as much on the Retrograde. It’s been love/hate. Minimalist, so lightweight, but almost too small. The texture is so aggressive I had to add some foam for wearing it. It’s so abrasive I’ll be impressed if my straps last one season.
Same finish as the x2 sticks. To me, this is too abrasive for a stand. When I throw it over my shoulder I don’t need it abrading my jacket. The grit is especially not needed on the underside. The cold world and retrograde are XOPs attempt at ultralight billet stands, but not for me. I’m really happy with the vanish evolution except for the sloppy seat. The rubicon looks like it solves that issue.
Just got my new bear grizzly recurve and shot about 10-15 arrows this evening. When I’m done shooting for the day do I need to unstring the bow? Or is it ok to be strung until tomorrow when I shoot some more? Basically when do I need to unstring it? I don’t want to cause any damage…..thanks brother!
@@SamkoTradBow - oh really wow, ok cool! So I was trying to determine my exact draw length by marking my arrow with 1” increments and coming to full draw and having my girlfriend record it on her phone to see exactly what length I was drawing….I thought I was around 27” but I was only around 25.5”!!! I thought theirs no way that’s true so I did some investigating and here’s what I found….when I first strung the bow it was brand new, never been shot. I measured the brace height and it was exactly 7.5” which is perfect. Well after shooting 10-15 arrows I measured it again and it was 6 and 7/8ths I couldn’t believe the string stretched that much during the breaking in process. That being said, was my draw length drastically reduced because my brace height was no where close to the recommended 7.5”?? Thank you so much man! I seriously appreciate you helping me!!
I’m very interested to see what you think after you put this thing through its paces. I’m in the market for a backup stand that doesn’t cost $500. I have a 1.0, however my versa buttons are different than yours. They are similar in shape, but have rounded edges and bolt on. I did ask LWCG about the seat loosening and they told me to tighten the bolt. I guess they didn’t understand what I was saying.
@kevinanderson4610 so excited for this this stand. I do really like my 1.0 too. But the cost vs quirks is annoying. Would be like owning a Porsche thst rattles, squeaks, and clunks. Still fast to drive but annoying for the money.
You have a code for this if not that okk i never used a tree stand but I'm thinking about getting one. So I will wait and see your review and go from there thank you
I just bought this stand two weeks ago after watching your original lone wolf stand reviews. I love the cold weather seat personally, I don’t wish the tree bracket teeth were sharper but it bites really well regardless. Super sweet stand I’m 100% satisfied especially for the money, I’d rather 2-3 stands than 1.
@SamkoTradBow I had the vanish I believe. Not sure how they can drop the ball on something so simple to test. Keep up the good videos, good luck hunting buddy.
I picked up a rubicon last month and only used it once on a hunt but I found that the stand off was too close to the versa button. I need to play with it more but it was kind of annoying in the woods. Curious to hear if anyone else noticed this. Otherwise comfortable stand
Yep the versa button is very close to the bracket. But love how they chamfered and rounded the bracket to accommodate it. I'm excited to test it more. But on a small diameter tree I can see it taking an extra few seconds to make sure you get the strap set right to work with the bracket
@@SamkoTradBow so I got curious and I ended up drilling a 1/4” hole right above the top leveling bracket slot. It’s about an inch under the stock versa button hole. I think it will be much better now.
Could you explain how it's comfortable to have your butt/legs just on those metal sides? I've seen these seats, but with no padding, it just looks uncomfortable. But, with that pad at least you have options...and the seat looks wider too.
XOP is listening to hunters. They have made some awesome improvements over the last 3yrs. Really liking their newer offerings
@@PhotoBob I'm sure impressed so far
They are I agree, but, it’s CHINAAAA
Bought an XOP Vanish Evolution four years ago from Amazon for $150. It was an open box return, but in "like new" condition. Platform footprint is the same as the Rubicon, and comes in just 1lb heavier than the Rubicon; no sweat. It has served me very well. People need to wake up and stop throwing away thousands of dollars by feeding the glutenous hunting industry. I appreciate XOP keeping it real for the average middle class hunter that works hard for their money.
Agree xop is crushing it with great value products.
I agree the vanish is an absolute perfect first or second or even third purchase. Especially the new 2024 version. 2024 is a tad bit lighter and seems stronger than the earlier model
I got my cold world on sale. It was only like $280. I love that stand! It's only 7.5lbs too
I bought one with the x2 4 sticks as well. Love how dead silent it was once setup.
James Wood just got the cold world and loves it
@@SamkoTradBowjust got the cold world it was night and light but the seat was terrible I returned it for this stand it’s supposed down this week!
@robertdane1212 the seat on the rubicon is amazing. And the finish is smooth and not rough textured
XOP knows who to send it to 💯.
Nice review Jason. You’ve sold me on it. Thanks for sharing.
I'm excited to work it hard and see how well it does. But I have high expectations and betvits gonna do excellent
Looks like a great stand can't wait for your review after your Midwest hunt.
@DixieBowhunter-m5g so excited to put it thru it's paces.
They also have the gamma backpack straps. It was on sale for $50. Definitely worth it. It has 3 compression straps that can attach your backpack to the back of the stand. I know you use parachord but the compression straps are very convenient. Especially if you had to pack something out with you.
Perfect
You sold me, I was debating on ordering the Lone Wolf but watching your first review on this the money difference is worth the buy prior to your 3 weeks of using it and giving complete review. I’ll just check it out on my own and see for myself
@cregp72 I'm in it right now. Have been for 6 hours and 6 hours more to go. Love it
Love XOP. I’ve got a cold world stand that I love, otherwise I’d definitely be picking up on of these rubicons. Great review!
@@DouglasMiller98 heard the cold world is fantastic too
Looks like a great stand for the money. Thanks for sharing and looking forward to the field use results.
Just bought one myself, can’t wait to give it a try
@@calmlikeabomb1340 very impressed so far
Hey jason! All you have to do is drill a tiny hole about 1-2” below the versa button and drop it down! Makes the stand even more secure and it’s out the way of the strap now!
@@jonah-n8l i have no probels or worries where it is now. But if it ever does bother me I will do thst
My favorite feature is that all their stands, sticks, harnesses, and saddles are weight rated for 350lbs.
glad i found this video. Was pretty close to the buy once cry once method for a lone wolf. Still may go down that route but I cannot stomach that $ that easily. Excited to hear how this worked out for you.
@@tylerboy34 just spent 23 days straight huntingball day every day with 35 tree changes in the rubicon. It's now my favorite stand
@@SamkoTradBow How would you compare the Rubicon to the Cold World?
@tylerboy34 never used the cold world
I’m glad you mentioned the versa button and batwing being so close together. That is my only minor gripe so far. Setting the stand a lot, I’ve noticed I’m not a super fan of where the strap ends up in relation to the points of the tree bracket if you get just a little angle on it. Maybe I’m doing something wrong, I really try to get my straps very level and very tight before setting them, but it’s a thing I’ve noticed.
Yep i can see thst being a spot to watch just by looking at the distance in pictures. But I do like how it fits between the straps on average to big sized trees. On small size trees I have not tried it yet but will report back when I figure out the best way to set it up on the skinny ones.
@@SamkoTradBow I’m excited to see that review! I have one of these.
Hey man, fantastic video! Can you do a quick video of how you use the paracord for your bag, and what you do with it once you get to a tree? Thanks!!!
What kind o backpack straps does it come with
simple nylon ones
The mesh seat looks pretty narrow front to back. Like your tailbone would be more on the metal rod section. Anxious to hear your overall review after putting it through the paces!
@jimpeterson3806 sat on it for about 20 mins when I first got it. Very impressive so far. i will find out on this trip. But so far the seat is absolutely amazing
@@SamkoTradBow. Would the seat fit on the Lonewolf custom? (Brackets are the same size? ) Love my LWC, but I hate the seat & would switch it out if I could
@leafinitup1 id have to check but I doubt it as they are different types of sest posts. But lwcg does sell a mesh seat for all of there stands
For anyone watching this trying to decide what is right for them. Or is shopping around for their first mobile set up. I absolutely would choose XOP. And i wouldn't turn my nose up at an affordable option like the vanish evolution (especially the new 2024 version) For the price the Vanish doesn't get any better! But this Rubicon is the bee's knees! The cold world is another awesome lock on! XOP has become my choice for affordability and quality. I really hope they stick with the price ranges they run their products on. It truly works and gets us out there hunting in this economy 😅
Great review! Smh as to how we went from $50 loc on lems to $600 hang ons. I guess its just inflation. My first job paid less than $4 hour and you couldn’t get someone out of bed for that these days.
well said and agree.
I was able to find one on sale for 179$
An absolute steal.
So comfy I almost fell asleep before sun up
Excellent deal
Where at? I’m wondering if they will go on sale for Black Friday.
Thanks a million for your review. Love your videos and I just purchased the rubicon. Cant wait to get it. What are your thoughts on it so far.
its amazing. full review coming out in a coulpe days.
Thanks for the review. There you go again helping me spend my money! lol
@@donaldbuckner2935 😂😂
Jason what do you do with the cam straps when you're packing in/out?
@mb748 wrap them top to bottom on the sticks and the stand one across the stand. I do not remove the straps
@SamkoTradBow That's the thing, plan on packing in Cranford steps...
@mb748 used to use Crawford steps all the time loved them. I just put them loose in a pouch. Grab a step as I climbed and pull it out of the pouch to hang.
I’m torn between the rubicon and the ion but I think the rubicon’s big enough for me being 6’2” and 130 lbs w 13 shoe. I have always been for 30 plus years a climber stand hunter so I’m learning something new. I have a great HSS harness and lineman’s belt. I think I understand the process but I will be practicing a lot. I still find it hard to believe you can set up by a loc on as fast as a climber but not doubting it just the same. My favorite climber my “ treewalker” has about the same bottom base demensions as the rubicon. Hell I might buy both of them and have the x2 sticks already on the way. Appreciate the info!
@@FDRGREG you will love either of these xop stands. The mesh seat is amazing!
I just bought this stand and I love it to. Only thing I didn’t like about it was the top versa button is to close to the stand off. The stand off was biting in to my cam strap unless I really got it set perfectly and then it was still almost touching it. I lowered the versa button down the post a lil bit and man I honestly feel like this is one of the best stands I’ve ever owned and def the cheapest!!
Yep the versa button location is close to the bracket. But love how they chamfered the bracket and rounded it so the strap fits over it. the beast stand was the same way but the bat wing was crazy sharp and you had to be very careful
They guys at XOP were awesome nothing bad to say about them. But I tried this stand out and it would not hook/bite into a tree on the platform side. If I didn’t have that issue I would of loved the stand
Do you not use a lower strap too?
@@UncleDanBand64 i do not. But it's good to use 2
@SamkoTradBow Well flip the world upside-down. Today I fletched up a carbon arrow with 4" AA&E Trad Vanes. Shot it out of 4 different bows. With 100gr Magnus Stinger and 200gr Jaeger's cut on contact Ashby myth broadheads. They all flew like a bullet. Me and my hunting buddy also stood behind a tree as the various arrow tips and bows launched them by. Eye opening. Even 3 fletch straight fletch is noisy in flight. The trad vane 3 fletch 4" 7° right helical.....dead silent. I am sold. Now on something slower than the mail....probably not a big deal. I tend to try and always shoot at or above 200fps.
@@UncleDanBand64 perfect. And good job on the testing to see what works best
@@SamkoTradBow I would use both straps. I would hate for you to be hanging out on your tree harness. I misspoke. I fletch with EZ Fletch. It is 6° Right Helical. Not that 1 degree matters much. I just like to be accurate with my comments.
@UncleDanBand64 ez fletcher is a great tool. Been using one strap on every stand for last 30 years. The bottom strap just prevents kick out
Nice stand for the money! I will stay with my Assault 2stand the seat on the X0P is nice but i like keeping the seat up and leaning on it some times. Don't think it would work for that and the smaller V on it and 1.0 isn't the same as the Assaults2. Hope you have a great 3 week hunt!! Thanks again
@george2099 i still believe the assault is the best stand made. But for the money and features of this stand it very well could be my second favorite. I can not wait to put it thru it's paces on my trip to see how it proves itself
I owned 2 XOP Vanish stands, the same platform as the Rubicon but cast seat. The only thing I didn't like was the narrow V for the teeth on the platform. On wider trees it only contacts on the outside 2 teeth and I observed some wobble. I switched to the Air Raid that has a wider notch, larger platform, and only 1.5# heavier on my scale.
I’ve found mesh seats to be less sturdy in the front of the seat during all day sits…which has led to more moving around to get comfortable. I have modified mine to increase the stiffness in the front, while still using the padding.
@@adamlang6171 I'm gonna find out when I do all the all days sits with mine starting real soon
How do you like the seat height? If the measurements are measured the same, it’s not quite as tall. Other than that it looks great!!
@@SchaferMagnant seat height was very comfortable for me
I got one as soon as they came out. Only had 2 sits in it and am enjoying so far. Do you ever use the second strap on the lower button?
I have not used the bottom strap on any stand in my life. But doesn't mean it's not a good thing to do. Will help with any chance of kick out and 2 straps is be6ter than one
I like this guy.
What straps would you recommend to hold a back pack in place while sitting on the shelf of the rubicon for transport
@@jessenoble1399 od probably use an adjustable bungie strap or id make my own out of paracord with a hook on each end and use a tautline hitch to adjust fast
@SamkoTradBow thanks
Looking forward to the follow up review, when will we see that?
@andrewpropst787 in a couple weeks. Today is last day of my 23 day hunting trip. Been on the rubicon every day love it
I was gonna buy this stand until the Coldworld went on sale for $299 and I got a discount code for another 15% off so to my door was $255. Yes a tick smaller but a bit lighter too. Now I do have some complaints on the Coldworld 1-the grippy paint is great for traction but tears clothing up or anything it touches. FYI stealth strips don’t stick to it. 2-the seat is comfortable but not as comfortable as the mesh would be. Other than those two things I have NO complaints!!!! I have about 20 sits from 2hrs to 5hrs in it and even though seat isnt optimal it work fine. I also saddle hunt and have used a rock harness in stands for 20yrs so getting butt relief and honestly back relief is as easy as raising the tether level to head high and I can suspend like I’m hybrid hunting. I know it’s not made in USA but for half the price it’s hard to beat!!!!! This rubicon is gonna be a purchase I make to have a 2nd or 3rd stand setup in case I switch trucks or in case I’m taking a camera man or even as a stand to sit behind the kids ladder stand. Hell in case something breaks on my primary setup. Your right Jason $220 is impossible to beat. 3 basically for price of 1 LWCG, Beast or Elevate. Great video for a Great product.
@@pathfinder5804 James Wood has the cold world and really likes it too. I'm very excited to put this stand thru it's paces on some all day hunts and see how it does
Try the xop X2s as well if you are open to new sticks. They are my favorite sticks out of the many I’ve used. Or the x3 in your case since you like full sized sticks
Glad you are loving the XOp sticks
Dude knows everything.Ask him he will tell you.
Yes he does and takes time to tell us also.
I have an XOP but not the rubicon and I really like it. What I dont like is the narrow v bracket . On just regular trees you only have two points of contact and it tends to wobble. So please pay attention to that when you do your final review
The v bracket on back of the platform is exact same width as a lone wolf custom gear 1.0. As long as you stomp to set the stand so it slides and locks zero wobble
I got my Rubicon in last week. I ordered one after watching your last video recommendation on the XOP. After watching this video, I'm glad I ordered one. I can't wait to try it!
@@RobertEatonOutdoors i bet you are gonna love it
Cool review.
Can you show how to attach straps to stand or paracord
I have a video on both. On my channel search type tree stand set up. The ones with the straps will show up. If you search paracord straps the other will show up
The mesh seat looks nearly identical to the Millennium M7 seat, which is surprisingly comfortable. The only downside for me was I couldn’t comfortably turn my butt to face any other direction than facing forward.
@davidrussell631 my first mesh seat but I think I'm gonna love it
Great review I think lone Wolf custom gear is making replacement mesh seats
@autopeep24 they do and I bet it's amazing. But the cost to replace the seat on mine to a mesh is also what it cost to buy this rubicon on sale
Awsome videos !
Cant help but wait until your next one comes out helped me alot . And settled my mind on alot of things i wasnt sure of !
One question i have for you hope you can steer me right dorection in this .
I have been using a saddle since it become the hype but i can not get myself to enjoy jt the way i used to woth my old wimdwalker stand . Should i go back to what i know and what feels good to me or keep trying to use something bc eveyone saying its better ? I know it’s a stupid qeustion but woth your experince i feel like you would be truthful .
Thank you
@DanielMohammed-bb4gq never a stupid question. And peer pressure sells and convinces the vast majority of people to do things. Also the reason many of my videos go against the current "grain". People want saddles, I hate saddles. People want mini sticks, I hate mini sticks. People say a expensive stand is better than a cheaper one, People say fancy clothes are mandatory, People say we need to shoot narrow broadheads, etc. The list goes on and on.
Find what works best for you and use it without giving one second of thought to what others are doing. Your experiences is all that matters for your hunting. And trying to keep up with the Jones is a vicious loss of originality, and originality is what makes use the best we can be
Thanks awesome to hear that comming from a guy like yourself ! Keep up the great stuff really does help the younger generation. God bless
I love my xop air raid
Just got mine.
I thought you got dans hunting Beast stand. ? Do you like his?
Had a beast stand for 2 years. Loved it. Sold it after moving to Georgia and wearing bulk snake boots all the time. Just a little too narrow for the bulky boots.
Love this rubicon. Been in it all day everyday for a week now. Love it
What sticks are you going to use with that stand? Can’t wait for the full review.
@@ashdonovan7705 my original lone wolf (now novix) sticks i always run. I will never, for the rest of my life run a different stick
I’m very intrigued. I hate that i spent twice as much on the Retrograde. It’s been love/hate. Minimalist, so lightweight, but almost too small. The texture is so aggressive I had to add some foam for wearing it. It’s so abrasive I’ll be impressed if my straps last one season.
Same finish as the x2 sticks. To me, this is too abrasive for a stand. When I throw it over my shoulder I don’t need it abrading my jacket. The grit is especially not needed on the underside. The cold world and retrograde are XOPs attempt at ultralight billet stands, but not for me. I’m really happy with the vanish evolution except for the sloppy seat. The rubicon looks like it solves that issue.
@@Pro-ez9eb the finish on the rubicom is smooth. It has cast in dimples for traction on the platform
Just got my new bear grizzly recurve and shot about 10-15 arrows this evening. When I’m done shooting for the day do I need to unstring the bow? Or is it ok to be strung until tomorrow when I shoot some more? Basically when do I need to unstring it? I don’t want to cause any damage…..thanks brother!
It's fine to leave it strung. It's fiberglass limbs so won't hurt anything. I only un string my bows when I need to for travel
@@SamkoTradBow - oh really wow, ok cool! So I was trying to determine my exact draw length by marking my arrow with 1” increments and coming to full draw and having my girlfriend record it on her phone to see exactly what length I was drawing….I thought I was around 27” but I was only around 25.5”!!! I thought theirs no way that’s true so I did some investigating and here’s what I found….when I first strung the bow it was brand new, never been shot. I measured the brace height and it was exactly 7.5” which is perfect. Well after shooting 10-15 arrows I measured it again and it was 6 and 7/8ths I couldn’t believe the string stretched that much during the breaking in process. That being said, was my draw length drastically reduced because my brace height was no where close to the recommended 7.5”?? Thank you so much man! I seriously appreciate you helping me!!
I’m very interested to see what you think after you put this thing through its paces. I’m in the market for a backup stand that doesn’t cost $500.
I have a 1.0, however my versa buttons are different than yours. They are similar in shape, but have rounded edges and bolt on. I did ask LWCG about the seat loosening and they told me to tighten the bolt. I guess they didn’t understand what I was saying.
@kevinanderson4610 so excited for this this stand. I do really like my 1.0 too. But the cost vs quirks is annoying. Would be like owning a Porsche thst rattles, squeaks, and clunks. Still fast to drive but annoying for the money.
Millennium has a nice seat
You have a code for this if not that okk i never used a tree stand but I'm thinking about getting one. So I will wait and see your review and go from there thank you
@woodsboi8556 i do not have a code or get a discount or a commission or anything like that . But I sure am loving the stand!
@SamkoTradBow okk thank you do you know the weight limit on it
Lone wolf was bought out and now they make xop
Maybe a self climbing stand video sometime?
@@cameronkoble943 i don't use them
XOP is very hard to beat for the price. I just hope they don't decide they are some kind of "premium" company and start going crazy on their prices
I just bought this stand two weeks ago after watching your original lone wolf stand reviews. I love the cold weather seat personally, I don’t wish the tree bracket teeth were sharper but it bites really well regardless. Super sweet stand I’m 100% satisfied especially for the money, I’d rather 2-3 stands than 1.
@hunterslifestyle625 love hearing that. I'm gonna run it hard on my trip and see how it does. But I'm expecting to love it
That tight v on the xop= kick out. Got rid of mine was awful in that regard. Everything else was fine.
Same v size basically as a lonewolf custom gear 1.0. Like I showed in the video
@SamkoTradBow I had the vanish I believe. Not sure how they can drop the ball on something so simple to test. Keep up the good videos, good luck hunting buddy.
I picked up a rubicon last month and only used it once on a hunt but I found that the stand off was too close to the versa button. I need to play with it more but it was kind of annoying in the woods. Curious to hear if anyone else noticed this. Otherwise comfortable stand
Commented too early, you touched on this in the video. The tree I was in was probably 10” in diameter. I may throw the post in the drill press
Yep the versa button is very close to the bracket. But love how they chamfered and rounded the bracket to accommodate it. I'm excited to test it more. But on a small diameter tree I can see it taking an extra few seconds to make sure you get the strap set right to work with the bracket
@@SamkoTradBow so I got curious and I ended up drilling a 1/4” hole right above the top leveling bracket slot. It’s about an inch under the stock versa button hole. I think it will be much better now.
Could you explain how it's comfortable to have your butt/legs just on those metal sides? I've seen these seats, but with no padding, it just looks uncomfortable. But, with that pad at least you have options...and the seat looks wider too.
First time I've ever been on a mesh seat. All I can say is it's absolutely amazing comfort wise.
Seems like your butt would have to sit too far from the tree when you look at the distance from the standoff to the back of the seat.
@paulcrave3112 been in this stand all day everyday for a week. Love love love the seat
@ I ordered one today. lol
Thanks for the video.
Rubicon looks stronger thicker material.
It's well built for syre
I would buy a Novix. They are made in the USA not China.
novix doesnt make a stand I like today. so not an option for me.
skinny hunters only
Is it made in china. If so no thanks.
@budbrown9504 yes. Just like 99% of everything in our lives today.
There are plenty of US made deer stands. TV's? Not so much.
@@beaverwithachainsaw and yet I have not found on of those usa made stands that impress me as much as this ones does.
lol have you compared Chinese manufacturing quality to USA now days? I’d take Chinese any day…