Ottoman Decline & Muslim Collective Amnesia with Dr Yakoob Ahmed

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  • Опубліковано 16 лип 2021
  • The Ottoman state was the last Islamic Caliphate, that at its height brought diverse Muslims together under one banner. Yet, for a state that dominated world politics and created a unique order in the world, very little of its details are studied and understood by Muslims.
    According to Dr Yakoob Ahmed, our guest this week, this ‘collective amnesia’ was deliberately devised as a means to consolidate the modern nation state. I initially asked Dr Ahmed to discuss Ottoman decline, why this vast empire fell in 1924, but as you will hear, his rich understanding of Ottoman history takes the conversation to many fascinating places.
    Dr Ahmed has become an authority on Ottoman history, and we talk about his research on Ottoman decline, his move from London to Istanbul, his quest to reorient a Muslim thinking of history, the phenomenon that is Ertugrul and how he believes any Caliphate project has to be profoundly wedded to an accurate reading of our history.
    As always, you can comment your thoughts below.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 32

  • @kimxt7562
    @kimxt7562 2 роки тому +15

    I instantly gobble up anything by Dr. Yakoob Ahmed. He’s a gem to this Ummah

  • @alib7489
    @alib7489 2 роки тому +20

    This channel deserves far, far more views and subscribers. The quality of content and interview is very high indeed. Jazakallah Khair.

    • @TheThinkingMuslim
      @TheThinkingMuslim  2 роки тому +4

      Wa iyyakum and Jazakallah Khair for your kind words, they are much appreciated. We have only started uploading episodes to UA-cam in the last 6 months - the podcast is listened to more on platforms like Apple Podcasts and Spotify alhamdulillah.

    • @alib7489
      @alib7489 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheThinkingMuslim Alhamdulillah that's great to hear. There is great demand for podcasts focusing on the Muslim discourse and you guys are perhaps the only ones out there!

    • @Ameer-is3dh
      @Ameer-is3dh Рік тому

      @@TheThinkingMuslim What would you say about hizb ut ..for calling kilafah.
      They seems calling for the rights.

  • @imank4902
    @imank4902 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you so much, it was an outstanding discussion. Loved all of it. May Allah reward you and Dr. Yakoob Akhmad

  • @muhammedrahman1280
    @muhammedrahman1280 Рік тому +3

    Loved the discussion. It removed misconceptions. Nuances was eye opening.

  • @humaparacha0808
    @humaparacha0808 Рік тому +1

    This is sooo sooo brilliant. So comprehensive. So well delivered. Thank you for this!!!

  • @redihaderi8188
    @redihaderi8188 Рік тому

    What a gem of a scholar, and what a beautiful channel. Just discovered this, wish you all the best and may Allah expand your efforts!

  • @iyadhilal5011
    @iyadhilal5011 2 роки тому +4

    "‘collective amnesia’ ". Exactly! We are suffering from it. I call it political alzheimer.

  • @ish8891
    @ish8891 2 роки тому +3

    Jazakallahu khairan. Could you possibly do a video on the concept of the nation state?

    • @redihaderi8188
      @redihaderi8188 Рік тому +1

      I recommend Imam Tom's lectures on Blogging Theology.

  • @aqibjavaid5291
    @aqibjavaid5291 Рік тому

    Theory of 'declinism' should go now.

  • @azy22222
    @azy22222 Рік тому +1

    The Young Turks were definitely not Islamic based - they were on the border of "dark room" religions(won't mention here). Especially people at the top - there is no way a religious person would try to overthrow the khalifate.

  • @fasihturkce
    @fasihturkce 2 роки тому +9

    What should have been mentioned is the language revolution in Turkey. They basically hijacked the Turkish language taking on Latin isntead of Arabic whilst prohibitng transliterations in the early years of the republic, but more importantly creating nonsense words, just to severe the intellectual ties of the Turkish speakers of Anatolia with their Ottoman past. Both literary and spoken Turkish are filled with words that do not conform to Turkish derviation grammar. Also many of the previously Arabic words have been replaced by French ones. This is a very concise linguistic outlook but youtube comments are not the most fit place for expounding. You would not believe what refined articles, books, journals, government documents lie dead because of that. I as a speaker of unadulterated Turkish am suprised on how succinctly yet poignantly a defense of Islam was done even in casual newspapers. We have to realise the fascist Kamalist governments transgression and put these guys into the long line of cultural oppressors and hijackers of conscience along with Hitler and Mussolini.

    • @ruhmuhaccer864
      @ruhmuhaccer864 2 роки тому +2

      Nice channel brother. You are lighting an unregarded neglected aspect. God bless you inshallah.

    • @goodwifelucy5602
      @goodwifelucy5602 2 роки тому +1

      Where would you point someone who has no knowledge of what you describe to understand this further?

    • @fasihturkce
      @fasihturkce 2 роки тому +5

      @@goodwifelucy5602 If you know Turkish I recommend "Türkcenin Sirlari" by Nihad Sami Banarli. If not you might consider "The Turkish Language Reform - A Successful Catastrophy" by late Professor Geoffrey Lewis. I myself do a series aswell albeit in Turkish.

    • @goodwifelucy5602
      @goodwifelucy5602 2 роки тому +1

      @@fasihturkce thank you, unfortunately I have absolutely no Turkish , so will try to find professor Lewis' book. Thank you.

    • @goodwifelucy5602
      @goodwifelucy5602 2 роки тому +4

      @@fasihturkce thank you very much for the book recommendation, Geoffrey Lewis'book has arrived and I'm finding it pleasantly readable 😁 many thanks 💐

  • @Ameer-is3dh
    @Ameer-is3dh Рік тому

    What would you say about hizb ut ..for calling kilafah.
    They seems calling for the rights.

  • @ImadudeenAugustSarvaHusayn
    @ImadudeenAugustSarvaHusayn 6 місяців тому

    21:42

  • @BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY
    @BAFREMAUXSOORMALLY 2 роки тому

    Speak rather about MUSLIM DECLINE!
    BAFS