Hagia Sophia: What Western news isn't telling you | Dr Yakoob Ahmed | Unscripted #55
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- On the grand reopening of Masjid Aya Sophia, Ottoman historian Dr Yakoob Ahmed discusses the history and broader Eurocentric discourses surrounding the Hagia Sophia, Islamic history and conquest. He speaks about decolonising history, epistemicide, empowering the next generations of Muslims, and much more.
This Unscripted Live episode was pre-recorded due to scheduling constraints.
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Subhan’Allah very very good podcast.
Wow Dr Ahmed speaks so much sense as he knows history, he sees where things are coming from and where they’re heading.
Regrettably so many people are just ignorant of basic history or even educated to any level. He is correct again in saying only people who are experts should actually have an opinion which is valid. Anyone else’s should be put in the recycle bin (yep even mine).
JazakAllah khair. Clear the confusion n doubt.Islam stand for justice.
i have to say something about the turk=muslim part
a turkish historian explained it very good he said turk wasnt a nationality.
muslims who fight for islam were called so.
Must be a crappy historian giving the fact that "turk" is also used to describe a language familiy existing much earlier than islam.
@@amuthi1 a words meaning can change troughout history. stop insulting someone you dont know.
@@DieTopVideos Just listen to a hadith to understand that that defending this historian is rather futile without specifying context:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2928
In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 141
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 52, Hadith 179
The historian is right because there is evidence in my country that people called themselves Turk meaning muslim, eventhough their ethnicity was albanian.
Such a beautiful episode. Full of gems
Beautiful thanks Mr Yakoob
MashaAllah, very insightful.
Barakallah feekuma
Love vid
Thanks for your hard work. This was a discussion with scope far beyond the Haga Sophia 'incident'. Dr Ahmed's thoughts represent maslaha, ijtihad, ihsan and ikhlas inshallah at both the micro and macro level- his students are lucky to have him. Where are we going as an ummah is such a complex, pitfall-ridden question that requires many hours of discussion and analysis. Upon reflection, on one hand, we find the plight of the Uighurs, Syrians, Yemenis, Rohyingas, Palestinians and others as a damning reflection of our cowardice, 'presentism' and myopia. However, on the other hand, we have so many leaders around the world that continue to do amazing work politically, academically, socio-culturally and much more. Unifying and uniting these great minds and hearts would be a glorious achievement for the most glorious of communities. It would be possible and amazing if we were able to collectivize and mobilize more but that assumes all groups in the ummah want the same thing, which is patently, sadly not the case. The reality is that the ummah is as heterogeneous as it's ever been. The ideological potion of secular liberalism, postmodernism and critical theory here in the West has long been drunk by the hearts and minds of many in the ummah- while the wounds of colonialism, collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the two World Wars continue to weep and moan in myriad manifestations, lamentably. We seek power, courage and perspicacity from Allah alone, and he is sufficient for us a guide and Lord..
Good podcast, watched all of it.
beautiful podcast
Really interesting episode Mashallah👏
Excellent podcast.
Interesting clip
This was a interesting podcast .... wow thank you Islamic 21
Well you can argue that Israel has a right to take the mosque Al asqa and the land Palestine due to being 'booty' after the ottoman empire lost all its Arab possessions after thr Turks lost the war!.
I would appreciate if we had subtitles for this as the Dr's microphone is not very clear and his speech is a little fast . Thank you
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Barakallahu feekum
Alhamdulillah very good post bring more like this
Symbolic move
Haclilarin en büyük zaferi bizim tarih kitaplarimizdir CEMIL MERIC
I want to know what the Turks in London think about this. Majority of Turks in London are so far away from Islam.
@@entername_ True. Having visited Turkey, Istanbul, Ankara and Konya I was amazed to find how friendly Turks are, how cosmopolitan and multicultural it is and how much people love and care about Islam in Turkey too. I respect Turks and Turkey alot.
@@disciple60 The Turks showed more love and respect than I've received from any Arab in any Arab country I visited.
Respect to the Turks
Great convo māshāAllāh
Very interesting and insightful analysis
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Imran Hosein's worst nightmare. JazakAllahu khairan for the awesome talk. Love this channel!
Mash'Allah the holy relics are in Istanbul Al Mahdi shall return and Hagia Sophia is the heart and soul of Islamic Istanbul may the Ottoman spirit live on in the 💕 hearts of the Ummah and not let our faith to be robbed by nationalistic tropes and propoganda. We are one Ummah! The Muslims shall be one nation again. Al Fatiha 🌹
For this channel you should make as many useful videos as possible
As well Islamic History
Interview more smart scholar like this
From a political perspective what is the reason for converting Hagia Sofia from a museum into a mosque at this time. What happened/changed that the turkish gov decided now is the right time? Something i dont fully understand but hopefully u may clarify is if the aim of Turkish gov is to enhance Islam and make it stronger why do they persist in the persecution of the Kurdish people? Im genuinely asking do they not see the kurds as muslims and if so why?
Greetings brother, the prof should have a better answer , but I'll try to help out, I hope I won't be long winded
The answer of yr questions lies in domestic politics and a bit of history
History: armenia, Israel, ...are good egs...to be very short, a 100 yrs ago they both weren't on the map, u can say they were supported to be built in to divide between states in that region , the attempt now seems to be with the Kurdish pple as well.
Dom politics: Kurds generally are actually not persecuted , to latch on the History point above, some ideological political Kurd groups are being supported (In Turkey, Iran , Syria, iraq) Nd that would cause the problem mentioned above as well , so this is what "against the Kurds " propaganda is a about really.
Hagia Sophia situation now,..in the last few yrs with the Turks gov direction,especially after the coup attempt, is a message for 1) Muslims in general to like and support Turkey (and it's actions ,Libya , Somalia etc)
2) the outer world, as political declaration of war in a sense , threatening the predominant soft power and international power of the west.
Sorry if I was not short enough , and there are a lot more details .
Have a good day :)
Ibrahim Sharara wsalaam brother i understand why it would now at this stage would be problematic for turkey to allow a independant kurdish state in the region however why does the turkish regime persist in suppressing the kurdish culture eg. Language/music. It seems to me it is this attempt to eradicate the kurdish culture that has sparked the rise of groups such as PKK, also how can it be justified islamically for turkey to bomb/arrest innocent people? Erdogan has been in power for years could he not have sent that message to muslims and the west years ago?
@@OWA1S. hi ,it's a pleasure for me to have this dialogue , and thank you :) .
Ok , I'll mention in a general quick style :
turkey has been doing that for the last 130 yrs more or less , in a terrible way, at the end of caliphate and beginning of hard secularism,and since then ,until 11 yrs ago to be precise .why ? Because turkey has been nationalistic secularist for all that time,... the first "real conflict" between islamic turkey and hard secularism turkey started in 2009 , that is when u can really pin point the beginning of islamic sentiment practically in turkey , lead by erdogan, minor but obvious, then reinforced by a 2016 coup as louder and prominent . Since then u can actually start realistically putting islamic resp. On turkey.
The innocent civilian matter:
I'll give an example , there are really two main incidents in the last few yrs , set by Euro court of HRights. (The Syrian /Kurd politician and fighters incident ---the 19 Kurd fighter bombing) were both claimed had civilian deaths in them . The EU court has not reached a decision yet, but the investigations and reports put on these two incidents, mention actually conflicting stories ,wether there were civilian deaths or not. Worth mentiong though as well that the EU Court has actually applauded turkeys continuous factual efforts on the HR of Kurdish pple( which is a very important distinction between them and PKK, it's like saying the American pple and the American gov.) .btw , I can provide u all that from the UN and EU websites if you would like .
I hope I didn't bore u :D
My main point here actually in short is , there are a lot of "pushed perceptions" being put out there, and I think in these messed up times, we should exert way too much effort to sort things out :D
Ibrahim Sharara jazakallah brother this has helped my understanding a lot but correct me if im wrong what ur saying is that there is now a divide in turkey between nationalists and islam? In regards to the kurds i have seen many examples online of young men being arrested for listening to kurdish songs and people speaking kurdish language as well as a recent video of a innocent family being bombed. This is without doubt oppression so why is there not a big push in turkey especially from the Islamic split which i understand to be a 50/50 between islam and Turk nationalists. Whose side would you say Erdogan is on because it is his gov that is comitting these crimes. If he is on the side of islam eg. Hagia Sofia, then why is he going against islam by persecuting a people. Also i believe the coup in 2016 was by the military? Whose side are the military on then? Theres a lot of confusion for muslims outside of Turkey, especially from the West where many muslims are seeing Palestine, Kashmir, Yemen being bombarded everyday and asking where are the muslim nations/islams leaders? So from the outside we can not tell if Erdogan is one to trust or not
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Just one question for the Turkish historian, “ is treaty of Lausanne ending in 2023”?
Thanks
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the kaaba, it was originally built to worship God alone then became corrupted.
Exactly! lol
And let's just ignore the first nearly 1000 years of Saint Sofia -- so easy to do. Just pick the historian and that gives you a particular perspective. How about an interview of a Byzantine historian or any mainline Christian historian (a Catholic, an Eastern Orthodox, etc) to get that perspective? It would be fascinating to see you interview such a historian and that at least would give you a more balanced understanding rather than just calling any other narrative as "Eurocentric" -- sounds rather dismissive. I am quite sure the Phanar could find you such a historian -- or how about interview the Greek Orthodox Archbishop of the US? He is well-educated, English-speaking, relatively young, spent many years in charge of Halki, and a Turkish citizen.
Let's then also ignore what would happen if, as the interviewee suggested, and what, logically speaking, your line of reasoning would require Fatih / the Ottoman authorities of the time to do: namely just leave the building in the hands of the church. The church would quickly have become a ruin!
You do know that the building acted as a giant money pit of a liability until the incredibly well carried out strengthening of the building by Sinan during the 1500s?
If the Ottomans had followed your advice the building would probably turn into a wreck with the forces of pigeon / bird poo attacking the structure within the time frame of a few earthquakes hitting the city.
Using your logic there currently would not be a Haghia Sophia on the face of the Earth. (Case in point: look up what happened to the second church of Constantinople... The venetian / crusader invaders ransacked the place and so by the time the Ottomans arrived, the site was an absolute wreck that was so unsafe that they had to tear down in order to build an alternate structure in its place.)
*Referring to the present site of the Fatih mosque in the last paragraph. (This used to be the site of the church where the bodies of multiple roman emperors were originally buried but which were then removed / desecrated by the invading crusaders.)
if Fateh was right then wait for Temple Mount in Jerusalem
East Jerusalem including the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound, the West Bank and Gaza are Palestinian land and illegally occupied by Israel under international law.
Fateh conquered Constantinople in 1543... we are now living in the 21st century, (in case you are still living under a rock). 🪨
according to your understanding wouldnt the indians claim babri mosque as a indian temple be acceptable
precisely, including Dome Of The Rock.......we are now on dangerous grounds.
The blue mosque is near by. This is a imperialist strategy
_Thank you!_
What is a Indian Hindu doing here? Hindustan is not part of International history. You have always been ruled by others. Nobody wants your Ass were it does not belong. Before make Temple, India needs more Toilets!
@@mohammedyawartariqwani8651 That is not the way to talk about fellow human beings!
Non sense if the ancestry of Islam was not capable to build a master peace like agia Sophia , don’t blame the ones you conquered because they had the gift to build this kind of monuments , look in to Islam and ask your selfs why you were not capable even today building something like that ( the Only dome in the world up to today that it’s not supported by columns 😉)
Yes but Allah commanded Muhammad pbuh and the Muslims to take the holy sanctuary Kaaba in the Qur'an... question? Did Allah command sultan Fatah to take hagia Sofia?
It shall so happen as God of Israel desires. This place was built in the honour of God. God is not so weak that he cannot deter evil from vandalizing his place of worship...the events in the days shall reveal to the world what our God desires for this place....come back and read my post then.
The western propaganda ??? My friend i am Bulgarian and that move whas dumb it was poor and with no reason now what should happen is for us to make the mosc in our capital and make it a church
@Ioannis Grivas same way Islam have the Prophet Elijah in the Quran Even though it means my God is Yahweh
@@entername_ the blue mosque is very near. This is a imperialist gesture
Ioannis Grivas you’re a ignorant lol. Keep trolling fool.
Vernon Fabrino who cares?
@@mahmoodsayeed4 I bet you don't even care that there are spellings mistakes in Quran 😁
quran.com/37/123
Elijah is spelt and pronounced Elias
اِلۡيَاسَ
quran.com/37/130
Elijah is spelt and pronounced El-ya-sin
اِلۡ يَاسِيۡنَ
don't cry over Spain.
Taj Mahal and Sophia were built over Hindu temples.
Virtually in these two places , E Slam is praying Hindu gods.
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Dome of the rock built over Jewish temple. See the pattern
Lol you’re ignorance is very clear
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the Conquest of Constantinople was in violation of your Qur'an. what the Ottomans did was disgraceful and sinful. And now they have down it again 600 years later. You just stuck a dagger in the heart of the Greeks Russians and all Eastern Orthodox Christians.
What do you think of the convention of Mosques to Churches & persecution of Muslims during the Spanish Inquisition. What about the demolition of Babri mosque in India? If you look into history & verified by many historians the treatment of conquered community by Ottomans against the Spanish Visigoth & Christian Crusaders vastly difference. The latter are more destructive, vindictive & cruel.
Wow. I can almost bet that you're a listener of sheikh Imran hossein. 🙄
What ottomans did was absolutely right.
@Ionnis Grivas, Before the Roman Constantine conqueted the part of the world, it beling to the Turkic people. , the Ottoman just retook it back. It’s the prerogative of majorityTurks that decide what they want to use Hagia Sofia for as it belongs to them. If you are Turks citizen you can bring this case to court. If not just mind your own business.
@Ioannis Grivas Israel have been doing this and are doing this now, modi govt have goons that do this in UP
@Ioannis Grivas how far do you want to go back? So by your logic USA should be handed back to the natives correct? The white europeans should still be paying reparations to the African and Asian continents and South American continent for looting, raping, pillaging and spreading diseases?