Matt is so used to insane cars that even though this car is super quick to accelerate, all we get on the first launch is a dry "That's quick..." 🤣
Its because it doesn’t give any feeling, watch all his EV launches. There’s no emotion.
Complains about phantom people and objects - checks for cameras, misses the camera on the side literally looking at the camera 😂
When you got to the twisty dual carriageway you said “let’s see how fun this Tesla Model S performance is” at 8:54 😂
In the US, we get m3p with 510 hp. People have been doing 1/4 mile in 10.9 seconds consistently
@@marcelodias8019 No, that's not true. Model 3 for Europe is built in China and has a battery from LG. Model 3s from the USA have a Panasonic battery that can deliver more power. Therefore, the Model 3 from the usa actually has more power.
Anyone noticed how this video format is extremely different from before? I kinda miss the old format with 5 annoying things and a proper intro :(
They tried, but the video turned out to be 2 hours long with just annoying things
To keep the video shorter/more entertaining which is important in the modern world
@@nazxhereDoug Demuro has many of those things that Carwow lacked completely.
those ghosts are probably the cameras you mount on the sides :D still funny
He even shows that in the video, maybe see the whole thing before commenting...
The sensors can sense interdimensional beings between the physical and astral planes. That's what you get for your money.
@@GOD999MODEhow much anime and marvel have you watched ma boy 🤣🤣
Dear Santa, all I want for Christmas is BMW M3 versus Tesla M3P.
@@johnkeen4271 in any other realistic scenario the Tesla M3 is simply better ️
Now, we want to see Model 3 Performance vs Hyundai Ioniq 5N. When's that coming?
the 5n looks so much different then the normal ionic 5, Tesla should take note and add unique features to their performance models (like a different steering wheel, black roofliner, wider arches etc etc)
@@tubejorritbut... they did? The performance has unique bumpers, front splitter, rear diffuser, carbon spoiler, ludicrous badge, sports bucket seats, red brake calipers, performance rims, carbon details on the dash. All unique to only the performance.
@@jacobjensen5759 Not different enough, a BMW M3 is far more different then a normal 3 series. Also Tesla doesn't have bucket seats, just seats with a little bit more bolstering.
@@tubejorrit As of writing this, the cheapest M3 is over $30k more than the standard 330i. The Model 3 performance is around $16k more than the cheapest RWD Model 3 if you don't consider tax credits. So, yeah, for $30k more you should be expecting a lot more differences. $30k gets you a brand new car.
give us what we want. M3 standard vs long range vs performance
@@bilboriches7216 🤣🤣🤣🤣 model S is for kids like you, who neither knows how to drive nor know what a really good car is like.
There’s no such thing as an m3 standard. It’s m3, m3 competition, and m3 cs.
@@bilboriches7216a model S isn’t a proper car, badly designed, ugly.
I prefer this head lights than previous model!
Imo the new headlights look so ugly.
Seen it in the metal a few times and they look awful
@@karlin_orileyyou have ZERO taste If you think the new headlights look worse than the old ones. 🤣
Definitely! The old ones combines with the old front bumper looked strange and not as modern as these.
As an owner of one of these, it’s fun!
Keep in mind, the US verson has a better battery that makes 50-100 hp difference and the car is also cheaper. Otherwise this would have been an instant buy from me, however it feels like the rest of the world is getting scammed a bit.
@@gregbaniak9650I can tell you know nothing about evs the battery is what give the motor its power if the battery cant discharge enough power motor is slower so different batteries discharge at different rates so thats why us one is faster than others
@@gregbaniak9650Motor can not run at its peak performance unless it has enough juice. It’s like putting 80 octane gas instead of 91. It won’t perform the same way.
8:48 You can literally see the go pro stuck to driver side front fender that'd what's causing the phantom bike rider and the ghosts... the Tesla cams and live overlay are usually quite accurate.
I wish the cams were accurate in USEFUL stuff, like cruise control that works or windshield wipers that understand rain.
Wow - never thought I'd say it. But this is 36 900 GBP in Norway. I guess UK puts a lot of tax on their EVs.
The UK price is on par with the US versions, as well. Norway gets hella incentives.
Tesla’s price plus about 1k in registration fees and the 20% sales tax, no incentives any more
@@TheReal_JG - the only incentive is not having any tax on the car at all. Also, maybe Tesla is feeling the Chinese competition a bit more here, pricing themselves aggressively...
I was very surprised how affordable the new Model 3 Performance was in Norway.
I’ve had a U.S. version 2024 Model 3 Performance for a month now and I have to say it’s the best daily driver for the money on the market today! Clips off 0-60 times of 2.91 seconds without roll out and 1/4 mile times well below 11 seconds and handles brilliantly on the streets. Flip a couple of settings and it’s tamer and plush enough to be comfy for long hauls and gets consistently over the 303 mile range rating. Absolutely worth the price difference to the long range version which is also a great commuter!
That's great and I agree the US version is a beast. But we've been short changed in the UK as we have an inferior car in terms of battery capacity and tech. Very annoying as I was going to trade in my 1st gen M3P 😑
@@bavskijt I would still do it. The ride is 10x better/quieter in the new car.
@@brianiswrong after rebates the equivalent of just over 36,000 pounds...absolutely THE best bang for buck in the world for cars
Cool review as always, Mat 🙂 However, white seats are not standard (£1000 extra), and the carbon fiber "effect" is, in fact, genuine carbon fiber
In the USA the white seats are no extra price for 2024 (they were in 2023) and we have a much better battery. Non US buyers are getting shafted I guess.
@@Cruor34 One caveat is most people who will buy this car will also 'want/are eligible for', the rebate. If you want white seats it MUST be combined with the Stealth Gray exterior color to get the rebate. If you want ANY other exterior color AND White seats you will lose the $7500 rebate. We are going to see a LOT of Stealth Gray cars in the US. I purchased mine on day one so got a Ultra Red and Black interior and still got rebate. Can't get Ultra Red and get rebate now!
That's like putting genuine Uranium on the car, expensive but also utterly pointless
@@draigygochstupid comment, that’s like saying there’s no difference between 12 carat gold vs gold-plated.
the performance badge at the back looked like a union jack for a second there 😆
There's only noise outside if you have the AC on one of the higher settings OR you're in track mode which activates some fans for extra cooling.
The scrubbing sound is the mud flap touching down. It does that when the suspension is fully compressed.
Can't talk smack about weight of performance EV vs ICE anymore now that they're weight comparatively same.
Only Tesla EVs weigh similar to ICE. Most EVs, especially the higher end ones, weigh at least half a ton more than similar ICE models
@@wwanimator It is just insane that latest M5 weighs 200kg more than Model S plaid
Matt: *sticks Go Pro to the side of the car near the side-sensors*
Also Matt: Why does it think there is a pedastrian / motorcycle next to me? 😮
Edit: looks like he figured it out in the end 😂
I own a 2018 Model 3 Performance, and it’s not only the best car I’ve ever owned, it’s the best product I’ve ever owned. The updated 3 Performance will definitely be my next Tesla, and I can’t wait to drive it.
You wont regret it. Absolutely fantastic car for the money. great interior, quiet, great seats, great suspension and performance that stuns!
Yeah but still electric, when you'renot in a country that has 100 charge stations in 2 kms, it's hard. Not to mention winter etc. I go to roadtrips a lot and hence why it doesn't fit for my life.
@@supernotnaturalwell, I drive 3 hours a day. And I have taken road trips out of state just fine. Charging time is longer than fill ups but it's overblown tbh
Same, I also own a 2018 M3P and it’s great. I love FSD too. I’m constantly amazed that a company that was 12 years old at the time of delivery can make such a fine product and these legacy carmakers still can’t compete. The fact that they had the idea to have Bluetooth connect with an app as the key and they delivered it AND it still works flawlessly after 6 years is incredible. Also they had the foresight to make FSD work. To anyone thinking of buying a Tesla, DO IT!
@@supernotnatural good news is infrastructure is only going to get better across the world
the brakes burn up before Adenauer Forst on Nurburgring…. that’s under 4 miles of track driving.
M3P will never compete with real performance sedans like the BMW M3 until they address the braking issue. G80 M3 can do a full lap on stock brakes with no issues.
Considering 99% of all BMW M3s and Tesla M3Ps will NEVER go on a track, your point is invalid. Teslas humiliate BMWs on regular roads!
@@user-os1nh7xq1z considering that driving on a backroad with turns will require you to use your brakes, your point is invalid. its supposed to be a sports car, its performance should not be one-dimensional.
Isn't the GoPro at 8:47 the reason for your backward motorcycles issue Matt ?
You could have waited 2 minutes until he pointed it out instead of fishing for likes...
@AT_Lemongrab good job you can see 2 minutes into the future mate. Most of us don't possess such a skill
@@dueckiswhat either forget or keep a note for every video you watch for your remarks at the end?
People just engage with content. Better for Carwow anyway.
Someone tested one round Thruxton and couldn't beat old model cos new one overheated and reduced the power at around 60% charge
The performance has so many improvements over the long range i cant understand why anyone would give up the better motor, brakes, suspension, chassis, seats and performance settings unless they were on a tight budget.
Will it come with a speed limiter fitted? Can you do an article on them please?
Im getting mine in nj tomorrow. Grey/black. So pumped!
@lemongavine don't know for sure cuz this is my first ev, so I leased. But I don't see sales tax on any payments so perhaps not then.
Matt don't be silly, your gopro out on the offside is causing the ghost apperitions.
I placed an order on Apr. 26 (took delivery June 14) and they weren't doing the rebate on the Dual Motor...so, the Performance was actually cheaper with the rebate, so it was a no brainer. I thought the price was going to be closer to $60K with all the hype about how much improvement & tech was coming to it, so, if it was above the Tax Credit threshold, I was going to just wait until they figured out how to make the Dual Motor model qualify. It didn't take em long. I still don't regret my purchase of course, it was the car I wanted and waited for. Such a badass daily commuter! Cheers from Southern California!
Yeah I got the TM3P with rebate. Ultra red. Absolutely love it. $46k cash. Mine! For the $$$ it is impossible to find a car with same performance!
@@user-os1nh7xq1z This is true...paid cash for mine also. The interest rates are just too crazy right now...
may I ask can this model 3 performance can drive in winter? or have to change the winter tires?
What a car! Only issue is the previous Model 3 Performance models prices dropped $20K+ now..
Aren't most Tesla depreciating simply because of their batteries degrading and replacing it is like $20k or something?
@@desertsandfly2277 No it because they are shit build-quality and boring AF!
@desertsandfly2277 Nah, it's just Tesla lowering their prices for both inventory and order cars.
Is fun that this Tesla is the become lighter than c63 M3 M5…
@@Nse19 my parents own the new Model 3 and the materials look way batter than competitors in the same prices.
Also low parts of the door are made in soft material
@@gabgas27there are multiple cases where Tesla interior literally falls apart after 30k km. Its not about materials but build quality. I didn’t think you can do worse than Italians. I heard it depends on where they were manufactured though. Still even panel fitment on Teslas is dogsh*t. They have many pros, but don’t deny their existing problems
@@Nse19
The refresh is a lot better in that aspect. It's still very simple inside, but the materials are higher quality.
@@TheShattan Top gear literally testing tesla after 430K miles with original battery and drivetrain and it is still going strong. Their build quality has vastly improved, even German reviewer said it is almost on par with porsche for third the price.
Love that the white interior is included on the door panels. My MYP 2023 only has a small section of the door white.
I upgraded from a 2022 performance to this and I'm sooo stoked. It's an insane car - so much better and faster (I'm in The USA so I do have the better spec)... :)
That oversteer and understeer is actually a great feature for us petrol heads , other than the sound
Meh, still sounds better than almost all 4 cylinder cars, I think that's a non-issue, from a driving perspective this seems pretty great. The lack of HUD and stalks kind of ruin that of course, those are properly odd choices.
@@ApothecaryTerryI agree most modern cars with 4 bangers sound terrible IMO when you compare them to a proper Honda Vtec from the 90s etc. An F16 doesn’t make a v8 rumble from the cockpit just the hum of a gas turbine but no one seems to complain about that 😂
@@paulsimpson8990 Ha so true about the F16 😄 I love driving EVs, they're so satisfyingly smooth - exactly how a Lexus or Merc should be! On the other hand, there's a reason my last 3 cars were 2x V6 and 1x flat 6
...currently in a 4 pot, but that's about the handling (308 GTi - see AutoTopNL video today for why I like it!). NA Honda engines or old school rally-style turbo 4 bangers are both awesome. Any current Golf engine though? Nah, sleeping pills are cheaper 🤣
I think the ghosts are the fitted gopros!
Is it worth upgrading to this if I already have a 2021 model 3 performance?
I had one of these new models for the day. It was really fun but once you get used to the performance its a very numb drive. I havnt driven the previous models so not sure what the improvments were. I think its worth the money for the performance alone but its probably not your cup of tea if your after engagement.
If you need a point A to point B daily driver I don't think you can beat it. Need a manual 911 in the garage for weekend drives.
@@xm3ntal620 Yeah thats what I had it for. I am looking for a new daily to bang some miles on. Ive got a BMW m2 for the more engaging drives.
Sold a BMW M3 for the Tesla M3P and have never looked back. It's been an amazing no maintenance car.
Why is no-one talking about the fact that the American version is faster and has more horsepower due to it having a different battery. The US version does 10.9 in the quarter mile
10.9s is very unlikely in real-time conditions, probably measured with the rollout. Reality is around 11.1s or slower. They actually had the same stats until they changed it on the german website due to EU Law. Now less power but apparently similar times.
@@Nisimo6787 Yes, US version is considerably faster. With rollout, they do 10.8 1/4. Standard, they are 10.9 at 124 mph.
@@genderlessyoutubefanperson No. The Rollout time is officially set at 10.9s.
The adaptive Dampers and reprogramming going on in the Sport mode caused the SCCA in National Autocross to move all 24 models to SS were it will compete against GT4 cayman, older GT3 models as well.
When you saw the ghost chasing the car were you near a cemetery by any chance? i hear if you drive a tesla around a cemetery you'll see lots of humans walking on the screen lol
"Cancel your M3?" No.
its putting down better lap times then a m3 and m2 comp tho...? bro wants to be scammed
It's like half the price of an M3, not exactly fair to compare the two. I'd expect something double the price to be better.
right....buy a car that costs a bunch more, is slower, costs a fortune to run, and guzzles gas like there's no tomorrow. That's the ticket.
Y would I cancel my m3?
Because you want to make the insufferable Musk a bit richer? You want to turn the tide on global warming all by yourself? You hate nice cars?
Hey Matt what’s the name of the shoes you have in this video?
@carwow did you know there are buttons and that you can also change the gears from the top(next to the hazards)??
Too bad Matt can't test the more powerful US version
I can already see all the excuses lined up for when we get the carwow drag race between this and the m3 xdrive. 😂😂 keep crying . BMW is going to gaptize this ugly fish
Yeah the U.S model is doing dragy runs at 10.9s in the 1/4 mile. It's unfortunate the EU model is so much slower this time around.
@@manuelight
There is limited battery supply, so Tesla are using two seperate battery manufacturers, Panasonic and LG.
EU gets the LG battery, and the LG battery happens to have a lot less power output than the Panasonic.
Let's be real. We will never get such comfy, fast and stylish ICE car in this price range. 60k pounds is actually a bargain for what this car has to offer. I hope germans will learn something from it
Yes, lets be real. The BMW M340d is £58,470. Decent performance and compared to this one it's like being in a Bentley.
@@dangosypethau4.8 seconds 0 to 60mph. That's slower than the long range model 3. Compared to this car, it's slow.
@@dangosypethau m340d doesnt have ventilated seats, 90% of features this tesla has and is 4s slower on 1/4 mile and 2.5s slower 0-60. Very bad comparison
@@Pablo-fn5sd But the BMW can be back on the road with a full tank of fuel in under 5 minutes, which I am sure on a long journey will more than make up for the 2.5s slower 0-60 :o)
As i am little bit expert i battery tech if you keep speeding the car you put alot of pressure in the battery which degrade the battery quicker
The time Teslas are actually cool because the start was insane with that drift
The problem with Teslas is that the insurance bracket in the UK is 50. Makes it soooo expensive to run
Anyone know what watch he’s wearing ?
You can now get aftermarket stalks, they look and feel exactly like the old ones and are easy to fit.
Imagine buying a car, and then having to go look for aftermarket indicator stalks 🙄
@@mad4tar77 yes, it sucks. But not getting a Tesla sucks more. I think the stalk factor isn't felt yet because the model Y still has them, when it doesn't there'll be more pushback.
You missed the point Matt. With such a low price, this tesla can be a REAL alternative to a sports car. I'm driving an i30N right now. I saw what m2 can do and I'm dreaming about, but the price difference is huuuge.
If tm3 perf deliveres 90% of the performance (lacking in sound and fun department) that I would much rather buy it then 2x more expensive bmw (remember the maintenance cost)
I need to drive it on the track to see if it handles as good is I expect
@@johndownes3528 There's no denying it that car enthusiasts that value performance to price ratio will give it a serious thought.
90% performance of what? M2? You wish lol
Maybe compare this to an m240i instead (which is still going to perform better around corners)
They should bring back the model s and x back to the uk in RHD
and other places in RHD!!! We want updated X. Also bring back Tesla X Plaid with 5 or 7 seat option!
As an American I wonder if u guys and other markets beside the US and Canada will ever get the Cybertruck
@@Carfan678 As far as I know the CyberTruck is not allowed in the European Union because of its sharp edges and corners. So I think we will never see it road legal here.
Some have run 10.90 1/5 mile already in these. 11.42 is what I ran in the previous generation. Maybe it had less charge when he tested it?
13:06 matt if you are doing this below the cars grip threshold speed, all your testing is the car's weight balance.
You'd want to do this test at highway speed to eliminate friction and weight balance as limiting factors.
The phantom dude or bike was obviously due to the camera on the right side, where the fender camera is pointing to.
@carwow for a multiple of videos now when you zoom in on the infotainment it is blurry, 240p like blurry. I assume you crop in from gopro or something. It looks kinda bad
been waiting for you to review this!
8:53 “lets see how fun this Tesla models S Performance is” 😂
@@icy1007 but the M3 has much sharper handling! I traded in my MSP for the new M3P. The Plaid is just a tire shredder and the build quality, although much more expensive, just isn't as good!
Great review Matt. The UK version gets 460hp. The US version gets 510hp, 2.9 to 60, 10.9 to 1/4.
This video shows more like 3 seconds and 11.4 seconds quarter mile.
As for the US those are just claims and if anything it was on a sticky drag strip with prepped tires, no Model 3 has ever been spotted doing under 11 on regular roads.
As you could see, 3.2 to 3.3 seconds 0-60 on regular roads, as a reality check. The M4 xDrive is still faster.
@@YTdelsCmts4NoRsn The M4 xdrive is twice the price and not even close in terms of practicality...
And no, those in the US really do 3.0s 0-60 and under 11s 1/4 mile runs
@@YTdelsCmts4NoRsn Plenty of M3P US based are 2.9 0-60 and 10.9 1/4 mile. We have different battery buddy. Get with the program.
the gear shifting has a few options... the scroll up and down on the screen is one... two .. you can change the system to auto shifting... third the top where the rear mirror is... there are also buttons to shift gear there too.. :)
I love the look of white seats, but can you keep them white?
Probably my next car, upgrading my current Model 3P. The one thing I'm dreading is the staggered tire size, making rotation impossible, which negates tire tread wear warranties. No more prorated credits for half-utilized mileage, hello full-price tire replacement bills.
It does not negate tire tread warranties, it just reduces mileage allowed.
0-60 tooks less than 3.5 SECONDS! Matt seems not impressed, almost bored! 😅
Welcome to 2024.
bored because he needs to de-emphasize the fact that objectively this is a better car than the IC competition.
Because an EV is indeed the most boring way of going fast. No sound, no engagement..
@@MacXpert74 when rules of physics (high, immediate torque from silent electrical engine) nails driver to the seat, less than 3.5 sec. , it mustn't be all that booring!
You aren't getting to 2.9 seconds because of the drag caused by the camera. LOL
Great video. When do Carwow get the new Cupra Born VZ models for test.
Looks great but i just cant see the benefit of buying one if you already have the older M3LR/P.
Same. No meaningful difference. The Plaid on the other hand, that’ll be worth the upgrade. I’ll wait till they do another revision of that.
@@markgilbertson1564Lol cope. I bet people used to say their horse drawn buggies had soul and their iron horses didnt.
I think the seats alone are worth the upgrade! I really miss them in my older M3P.
I don't understand the Tesla hate. Is it because ppl refuse to accept change? This car lighter than the new c63, RS6 and RS7 despite being electric and it's quicker than all of them to 60 and every bit as quick if not quicker over the 1/4 mile. And I bet it handles and brakes better because of the weight. People should learn to accept a good car even if it's from a company that may not be to their tastes. Great Job Tesla!
Electric cars in general are garbage…yeah many of them are incredibly fast…but they are sensational, not sustainable. Just the thought of owning an electric vehicle is stressful in and of itself…
Change ? What change ? Quality is horrible. Lot of cars are better than this overprized crap. And ecology ? Where is ecology ? This is not green car ! Bad job Tesla !
it's less so about the numbers and more about the lack of noise, but more so cause as ppl move into these cars, it does mean the imminent death of ice cars,(just cause of the way the market works)
What is the trap speed at 1/4 mile? 121 MPH?
All I wanna see is a comparison between this and the Hyundai Ioniq 5 N! ❤
I just love how good the software is.
German car manufacturers just suck when it comes to software :/
Did it finally get the sun roof shade lol. Room for improvement with interior ambient lighting I see tho
Got one for about a week now. Absolute dream for me. Everything, even the indicator buttons and vision only. Only thing that is rubish are the assistant systems.
What's the rush? you robbed a bank that you need a 2.9 sec car?
My traditional comment to Golf R owners also applies here: it's fast so you can get to the pub quicker to brag about how fast it is, then it's fast so you can get home quickly before the driving experience bores you to sleep.
Excellent car 👍
This is the first review I've seen that tests acceleration on different track bias modes.
why do car manufacturers dont cover up the upper part of the boot, where the speakers are?..
I mean, it may be fast, but it still doesn't have stalks... only weird buttons on the steering wheel...
Model 3 has somewhat "smart" turning signals. It means that it predicts when to turn them off so basically most of the time you would not need to turn them off by yourself even on the roundabouts if the navigation is set (correct me if I'm wrong). Ofc, stalks are still better, but after driving past-gen model 3 I'm not scared of lack of stalks anymore
You do realize that this is not unique to Tesla and has been a thing is high end sports cars for a while? Ferrari is famous for having this "weird" stalkless configuration for a while now.
Gear selector on the screen? Hell no for me.
Seems odd until you actually try it. After one day you don't even think about it.
He'll no for me as well I love the quietness. Prefer to listen to someone lovely music.
So tell me how many laps around the race track would it be a M3 killer?
Those mud flaps aren’t stock right? Looks like they were purchased from Temu
Actually knew it was the camera since the ghosting started.. ha-ha!!
Bespoke Pirellis. Have fun with that.
Nothing bespoke about them, you can fit any tyre you want. Dont even need so-called "EV" tyres
How is this one the same as the old quarter mile time. I've seen multiple new ones hit 10.75 quarter mile and 10.80. something is wrong here. My one from 2022 ran a 11.5
how is the build quality ? panel gaps ? my model y performance feels like its build out of card board . I also have a Polestar.... much better
8:53 Tesla model S performance ?
Came here to say this. Calling it a model S by accident is telling :D
@Ash-su8gj not sure I understand your question. What I mean is I noticed it him calling it a model s as well, and it us interesting that he did that. So it might be subconscious, since the performance is so close to the S
Can an ep3 keep up with a golf r Standard?
Will it be launched in India ?
The way prices are going for normal cars the standard model 3 is actually really good value for money £39k roughly
Decent sound system as standard and a golf GTI that has a similar 0-60 is 10k more when specced up to similar standards and doesn’t have autopilot etc on top of
Good value … no one will want to buy a used Tesla. Where is the value?
I absolutely love my 2019 Model 3 performance. I'll get one of these after it's been out 3 years, there's no way I'd pay full price for one.
It’s extremely bad value compared to a second hand one unless you don’t care about high monthly payments and not owning the car after 3-5 years.
Don’t buy an EV. Lease one assuming you meet their credit score requirements
My car picks up people that aren't there..
I call em ghost walkers 😂
Can't I ask a daft question (considering it's a Performance), but what realtime milage can this achieve? I'm split between ordering this or a BMW i4 M50.
Tip : Only cancel an M3 for an F90 M5 nothing else
@@borinvlogs it’s still about as exciting to drive as golf cart. I’ll take the M5 everyday and twice on a track day. Far better driving experience.
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That doesn't sound convincing xd
...but what if I don't want to? Is this mandatory? Can I get my stuff out of it first?
how much does it cost you guys to get to use Upper Heyford for the racing/testing?
Hey matt you guys should do a review of scorpio n
Seeing this after watching new car reviews, seems appropriate!