So you mean which one catches fire first, or which one outputs the most toxic smoke, or which one burns longer? ua-cam.com/video/yOA7qKMcjcE/v-deo.html
So much cheaper to have everything on the screen.. And bigger repair BIll as EVERYTHING is on the screen.. Must be some bribes payed to get that legal in the Eu.
The BYD seal costs < 30k pounds in China. The single motor version costs about 24k pounds, taxes and fees included. Ultimately I think the EVs in EU are still not that affordable.
yes let them ship EVs to europe without taxes and see every single European car manufacturers go bankrupt in 5 years! lol the whole EU is a lot cause when it comes to manufacturing
The up front cost is likely not affordable for a lot of people, but they are much more affordable than ICE cars in the long run. I did a cost analysis of my tesla model 3 vs a ford focus and over 9 years the tesla was far cheaper despite costing a lot more up front.
@@Kewickviperthe difference is that works for people who can afford brand new petrol cars, but a lot of people have 5-10 year old petrol cars which are wayyyy cheaper
True but it’s a bit different for cars. Actually, e.g iPhone costs about the same price. And cars in China used to cost much more when China was not able to produce competitive cars. Now the China wages increase but cars prices decreased dramatically
As an Indonesian, I think I would choose BYD over Tesla, you can buy BYD Seal here half the price of the basic Tesla model 3. Tesla infrastructure and support is still considered too remote to beat other competitors like Hyundai or Wuling in terms of infrastructure and support (in fact, almost all electric cars I've seen is Hyundai or Wuling because it is cheap especially Wuling here smashed the electric car market). Tesla is still considered as a luxury car though.
Ummm, when he was doing the test drive and he said the Tesla handled better, but when he was driving the Tesla, the road was dry and when he was driving the BYD it was raining and wet. How can you compare?
This is also why I dont watch this channel to draw actual comparisons. Its because Matt becomes very baised between many brands including brands belonging to the same parent company and country.
Carwow will help tesla on review.. ? You don't know tesla famous for not willing to advertise? I could say byd paid carwow to make their car review better.
In my opinion, Byd Seal is superior for 3 reasons. 1. It is easier to navigate and it is closer to a normal car with buttons. 2. The interior is way superior. Amazing attention to detail and the quality is just better. 3. Battery. Byd has the best battery in the world right now. Even Toyota wants to use Byd's battery for their new EV cars.
Your kind will extinct, like dinosaurs 😂😂😂. In the era of AI, we no longer drive a car, we just sit on moving thing to go to another place, as simply as that
@@goodmoviesrl5089Their whole manufacturing is set up to avoid lots of different SKUs and options. Adding HUD would add more cost than you might think given their processes. But they really need to bring back indicator stalks!
@@goodmoviesrl5089 Thing is Tesla is still selling the M3 in the millions, so why would they add something that costs them? If demand ever slackens (though frankly I think it's telling that pretty much everyone has given up the ghost on that ever happening and stopped predicting it, there genuingly seems to be limitless demand for any Tesla product annoyingly enough) and Tesla's research indicated adding one would bring a load of new customers to buy a 3, then sure I could see them do it, but we're probably a looooooong ways off from them feeling any need to do so.
@@vjhushashi what??? BYD is the world leading producer of rechargeable batteries. They are the innovator of blade batteries which has much higher energy density and safer than previous batteries. Even Tesla, Toyota and other EVs started using blade batteries supplied by BYD. Whether u like it or not China is moving fast and is rapidly coming to its own technological innovations and ideas..Now even their phones from copying apple have started to have their own designs. Their government is obsessed with havintg the latest cutting edge technology by incentivising young engineers to compete in robot fighting tournaments, events and what not. And the government even at the local level are always ready to finance struggling companies if they think they have potential. Look i don't wanna dive into politics or their foreign policies but one thing for sure is China is just different when it comes to pushing for the future(together). If the US had not intervened, Huawei could have become the world leading provider of 5g technologies.
@@vjhushashi You may not know the advantages of BYD's whole industry chain, as far as I know, except for tires and window glass, steel, the rest are self-produced, and the price of seal in China is less than 25,000 US dollars
The issue of BYD Seal copying Tesla lights, I think you should ask BYD's global design director Wolfgang Josef Egger, who used to be the chief designer of Audi and Lamborghini, so it is hard to convince me that the Germans copied Tesla
you know, it looks almost identical to the Tesla 3, I don't care who is in charge, there is unlimited number of choices and he choosed the same design as the direct competition.
@@M7awesatand if some products are this easily to be beaten just by other’s copy it’s outlook, then those products deserved to be chased out of the market, instead of criticizing the competitor on an imagined “moral high ground”
They're both awful. The Tesla has absolutely zero personality. It's the blandest car someone could possibly design. The BYD looks better, but still it looks too much like the Tesla to be considered good.
The BYD Seal has just landed on Indonesian shores this week and it already beat Tesla due to several factors: • Factory support - BYD is fully factory-supported and partnered with a well-known dealership network. On the other hand, Tesla doesn't have full factory support over here since it's sold through a general importer. • Established reputation - Prior to selling passenger cars in Indonesia, BYD won procurement contracts for taxicabs and low-deck city buses. The buses have decent quality and excellent performance.
@@BreathOfDustnot necessarily true ,I am not a fan of electric cars but I did noticed that the sells of BYD are quickly increasing around the world , they haven’t yet hit the US and some other Europeans countries yet but it seem that soon they will ,it was even on the news about how BYD could became a tough competitor
@@Mathis218337 That's the magic, In alot of asian countries, BYD already won without even selling. If people are buying electric cars, they go after BYD without a thought. Most people think , its just cheaper, built better, faster speed, better service. There is no competition at this point.
BYD seal just launch in Malaysia, the Premium version ( extended range ) is even cheaper than Tesla Model 3 standard version. And comes with 19 inch rim as standard. And BYD seam more of a complete car than Tesla model 3. I just not use to no stalk at all for Tesla.
as I understand it depends a bit how you park your car, when "Auto shift from Park" is activated, the Model 3 is designed to automatically select drive mode or reverse mode. That is, if there is a wall, for example, in front of your car, the car will automatically drive back when you step on the accelerator and vice versa when you have an obstacle behind. The touch screen will show the selected driving mode when the driver's door is closed and the seat belt is fastened. A friend told me about it.
I always wonder why Carwow never talk about charging costs. public charging is so expensive in the UK (Around 85P per KWH) - tesla superchargers cost around 45P Per KWH - this is a massive consideration for any potential EV buyer but never gets a mention
Basically all Tesla chargers are now open for non Tesla vehicles in UK and Europe, for 10 bucks a month you also pay the cheapest price. We only charge at them with our Kia 😊
I don’t know if its an app bug, but just recently Tesla increased their prices and has opened most of their superchargers across Europe to everyone. It’s not exclusive anymore
@@Pouimatiomthat’s factually incorrect. Only several sites are open to non-Tesla vehicles in the UK. And the cost of doing so is more expensive than a Tesla driver pays.
ehh you get used to it. it's fine. People need to stop complaining about change, until they experience it for themselves. Then if it sucks, that's fair, feel free to complain.
Great comparison! Just an idea: please consider to put on screen the ranges in kilometers whenever you mention "freedom units". Your videos are viewed all over the world, and most of us use the international system. That would be awesome!
Freedom units are used in the US. This is good old imperial. He's advertising a UK based website, so makes sense he would talk primarily in the Langauge the customers he's aiming for will understand. But yeah, no issue with putting other units on the screen
Exactly. White vinyl doesn’t cost any more than black vinyl. They have no sense of style at Tesla, the same colors forever and then they add two more, a grey and a red that look almost identical to other colors they already have. Tesla’s are so boring.
The light interior was available in all trims and external color choices, but now it's only available in some trims and with certain external colours. Australia.
If I knew nothing about the BYD, I would still pick it, because it doesn't need the touch screen to change gears P/R/D 😅 Also I can't stand the lack of driver's screen. These 2 things aren't "features" they should be standard. After watching the video, I'm quite keen on trying the BYD when I go electric.
Honda e is fun if you dont need a real car for trips and stuff. Its small, quirky and fast up to 160kmh. Plenty analog too on top of the crazy screens.
This is why I bought a Model 3 Gen 2 instead of Gen 3. The gen 2 does have the Creep options. Also has the better gear shift and signal poke. Has even more room under the boot and drives somehow better and faster because it has 513hp.
In a 'normal' car there's usually a dedicated ESC button. Car makers need to move away from putting everything on a touch screen before it kills someone, if it hasn't done already🤬
Even if your phone is in a cradle its illegal to use the touchscreen whilst driving. How is taking your eyes off the road to try and turn the traction control off using the built in touchscreen any different?
It looks like near the end, you drive the Tesla when it was just starting to rain so the roads were still somewhat dry and had more grip, but you drove the BYD after its already rained and the roads were fully wet. You should have done a proper comparison of when the roads were dry for both cars.
@@nht_vng8669 It depends on how you define performance. To me, the Model 3 is extremely heavy and is mediocre in anything but a straight line. Driving one really feels like an old muscle car from the 70s. Silly fun in a straight line and then you have to actually make that corner.
The Tesla Model 3LR in Canada is about 38,000 Pounds after all rebates and taxes and about $48,000 USD after all. its about $66,000 CDN. We only currently get the Shanghai built Tesla's here with the CATL batteries. If the BYD was $10000 cheaper im sure alot of people would choose it instead if we had that option. Currently you can't buy any BYD's in Canada. Great Video!
1. Handling. For most people, the handling of BYD Seal is good enough and the softer suspension make it more comfort than Model 3. So the handling difference is none in 99% circumstances. 2. Charging network. If you often drive a long trip, Model 3 is far more better than BYD. If you charge at home in 99%, there is no difference. 3. Driving habit. If you still own ICE cars after you buy an electric car, just choose a more traditional-handling EV. You can switch EV and ICE cars effortlessly and keep safe. That's far more important.
To be fair, you could just use ABRP for navigation in BYD. I use it all the time in my Leaf, and it does exactly what Tesla maps does. Plans route for your car with charging stops, and tells you how long to charge at each stop.
Sorry but you dont talk about battery tech. BYD has far better battery thech, blade battery (lfp) that wants to be charged to 100% much better than have to think about only charge 80%
You forgot to mention BYD's batteries are all glued together and you can't replace battery blades and need to replace the ENTIRE battery unlike Tesla which you can replace each module.
Again one of my favourite features of EVs is the one pedal driving with regen. Absolutely love it and almost Zero wear on your brake pads. My model S has done 66k miles and still on original brake pads.
@@i679n5 but it hasn’t. You do use it a little, enough for no rust to build up. As I said 66k miles done and no rust and still with original discs and pads.
For vehicles built at the Tesla Fremont Factory, the company sources 2170-type batteries with a nickel-cobalt-aluminum cathode chemistry from Panasonic's production line at Gigafactory Nevada.[163] For vehicles made at Gigafactory Shanghai, batteries with a nickel-cobalt-manganese cathode chemistry are sourced from LG Energy Solution's factories in China.[163]
Nice review matt, BYD is starting to get better and better with their Evs. I like Tesla but some of their decisions make me shake my head in disbelief. Like who are the people that come up with removing stalks, gear selectors or changes the horn to a button. Cost cutting is 1 thing to lower cost and make Evs more affordable but it shouldn't come at the expense of reliable driving options like stalks and gear selector that have been tried and tested for decades.
Eh its not a big deal. Dive it for 10 mins and it becomes 2nd nature, your thumb automatically selects the turn signals and swiping to reverse is straight a up better.
@@laciadams7899 Yeah straight up better, that's why he nearly crashed into the beemer in reverse LOL. It's an idiotic decision and a complete deal breaker for me personally.
A new Performance 3.8 model in Australia costs ~ £35,000, and there's a £1,750 govt rebate after that. A new Model 3 Tesla costs ~£45,000. One of these marques is currently selling through the roof, the other, not so much.
Here's a suggestion to enhance future comparisons: consider evaluating the sound system. The sound system often gets overlooked in car reviews, which is a significant disappointment. I'm confident that many people prioritize the quality of the sound system when considering potential car purchases.
Especially us who drive 40000+km a year and most of it by ourselves. Also the microphone quality check on calls would be much appreciated. There is a huge difference between mf’s. My Audis and MB’s has had great quality mics but our ‘20 Skoda Superb and our previous VW Passat had subpar quality on that department. So much road noise that they were pretty much useless
True. Lately I've seen few instances including high-end cars where branded sound system was just weak or dull. I bought a quad set of Kenwood speakers for my car and the difference is very noticeable. Also few years back I got to drive 2012 X3 that had upgraded sound system, and it also was one of those "oooh there is more background in this song than I heard" moments.
Tesla model 3 sound system is very good. I am an Audiophile that own a 200k system at home. (it can't compare to a 200k system but it very good for car audio.)
I agree but also testing how loud they can go and still sounds good, because lots of people like to have the music loud to sing along on the motorway ect..
The most inconsequential and pretentious aspect of cars. The Tesla has a frameless window and doesn't create the pressure, which causes the thump sound.
@@gauravk_in then open the window of the other car by a bit. there, problem fucking solved. and op's wasn't talking about it being a benchmark or anything, only that it's satisfying
You have no idea how hard it is to get all that live info. A Tesla even redirects you if a charger is full or it senses to much Tesla are en route or if it just isn’t functioning. Many brands struggle with it.
Yeah, Tesla is still the only one that does this well. Any other manufacturer will depend heavily on the limited Apple car play or Android auto or use some basic charging data with no real time update for road trips.
I don't understand all the tesla bashing. Everything works in mine ... other than the paint. The charging infrastructure is clearly the best, that's why it will never be the cheapest.
Actually, in China, the cheapest BYD Seal just costs 150k CNY (about 16.5k pounds), and Model 3 costs about 250k CNY (about 27k pounds). So the seal takes more advantages in China lol.
In the old British driving school system, they called parking between two cars "Flush Parking", I passed my flush park on the first try, go next to the car in the front, be side by side, start moving back and half way, make a hard turn to enter the space keep going and then a hard turn the other way and you fit in perfectly
I genuinely believe telsa could do with taking some advise from its customers, like keeping the stalk, those lights a gimmick but people like so should have been in previous models too, seat covers etc.
They won't listen tho, because Elon wants to cut the costs as much as possible. Any feature that consumers would like would make the car more expensive to produce, so you can be rest assured that they will not do it. It is a similar situation with removng Lidar and ultrasonic sensors and only relying on cameras for Autopilot.
their customers won't complain, because even if you took the seats away, they would say "great idea Elon! why didnt the other car manufacturers think of that before." 😅
26:00 - Yes, the original Model 3 offers the stopping modes. They removed it with the refresh. One downside to the Tesla is they'll take features away out of nowhere for "reasons".
Tesla got rid of the Roll and Creep modes after the EPA made changes to how the manufacturer had to calculate range estimates in different modes. Other OEMs will probably follow.
Main reason I cannot switch. Driving can never feel as seamless if you cannot coast. I'm sure some get to used to it, but it is so disgustingly jarring for me.
We have an ID4 with no one pedal drive possible, and a '23 M3. One pedal is absolutely the way to go and we both prefer it. Getting back into the ID4 is a letdown, plus having to always flip the lever twice just to get it into B for Regen, annoying. In the '24 M3 it looks like they won't let you switch one pedal off, while in our '23 there are three brake modes which is great. Tesla and VW are both mistaken. All cars should have one pedal as an option, but allow the driver to choose like our '23. And it should be able to remember your preferred setting. This is all easy in software so it's pretty nasty they don't all do this.
I’m really impressed with that BYD. As an American I would’ve never considered purchasing a Chinese vehicle before now but assuming we’re not at war with China in 5 years time I could definitely see adding them to my list of EV options. Even over Tesla.
The BYD isn't supposed to cost that much. It is far cheaper in Asia, which is why it has been so popular recently. In Europe, European cars are cheaper but Asian cars are more expensive. It's the same vice vera.
It is cheaper because they aare supported by the Chinese government. Soon every major market would wake up to that reality and start putting tariffs on the Chinese as China wants to dominate and thus they undercut the competition.
@@Undisputed_King That's only a minor part as BYD makes something like ~10x the profit per car in Europe compared to in China. The real reason is that BYD is capacity constrained, not just in manufacturing, but in distribution, sales, support, etc. in Europe right now. If they sold them with a similar profit margin as cars in China, there would be a year-long backlog of orders.
Mat thinks the front resembles a tesla roadster than a Porsche Taycan. Like... come on dude, atleast try to act that you've not been paid to promote Tesla
@@admrsh testla designs are known before even ByD came. It's ByD that adopted Tesla designs because they want to be like Tesla kk. China does not make their own remember
I recently ordered a Tesla Model 3 Performance, and I have no regrets. Even if a BYD car were one-third the price, I would still choose Tesla. However, there's no denying that BYD offers excellent performance for the price, and the more competition there is among electric vehicle companies, the better it is for us consumers. So, I hope electric car makers from China, Korea, Japan, Germany, and the United States all engage in fierce competition.
@@Lewis_Standing Presumably because neither of these (or most any popular EV) function like a normal car, Tesla being the prime example of that with their insane minimalism that is no only impractical but borderlines on dangerous.
@@Lewis_Standing Seems like if something happens to that screen, your car is effed. Kids roughhousing, break the screen, trip over. Lighting malfunction on the screen, car is dead. Nonsense.
I have both. I think many people missed the point, Tesla ultimate goal is not about making EV cars on the road, but an autonomous car, so the way they engineered their cars is very different from the Chinese. Whereas BYD is just trying to make cars as appealing to the eyes as possible, while running on batteries, but they certainly do cut costs on where your eyes cant see.
15:00 - wtf did the car think you were trying to do? I saw you swipe the “drive selector” to Drive, and it switched back to Reverse with no warning? That looked like a cut-rate website designer built the control interface. How did they let this get through testing? It’s stuff like this that make me wonder which other corners were cut during development.
AMERIKA. Every murican car/product is pure SHIT. Kapitalism make sure everything is made as cheap as possible. Tesla Still have worse panel gaps than the T ford and lada Niva. Batteries catching on Fire... Fast charging batteries is just stupid and dangerous.
There's a lot of corner cutting in the software for sure. But I think a lot of quality talent is missing in the industry anyway. Taking a CS degree won't educate you on how to make reliable and performance-aware software - at least not if you took it after 1990. Most software is focused on time to market and imagined reusability ("Clean Code™"), in my experience. Tesla's software has some above average software parts but other parts are severely lacking, simply judging from the clock speed of the hardware. I can't speak to QA but they don't have the best rumors. They're mostly focused on impact safety, I've read. It feels like they're cost-cutting and preparing for the future, sacrificing UX in the present.
@@Muskar2 It's not really about the way it's coded- it's a design flaw. There's no room for mistakes or interpretation with a physical switch that discretely selects a specific gear, but with the Model 3the software (and your own senses) have to interpret whether you pulled a virtual lever far enough.
I bought a model Y, but if the BYD is available in the US, I would pick it over the Tesla. That gear change on screen is ridiculous, why makes simple thins complicated?
I have the Model Y and I absolutely love the gear selector. I will not be upgrading to the new Model Y when it comes out because of the gear selector and the steering wheel. That looks very inconvenient and annoying.
Personally I prefer the screen swipe since it’s easy to know that you’re shifting correctly by looking right “at” the screen without having to look “over” a wheel (or to the middle console for other cars). Also predictive gear shifting can be really helpful (eliminating need to shift some times)
@@5kdaking334 actually there are touch capacitive shift buttons right next to the hazard lights button (so you actually have three ways to shift total rather than just one with the stalk)
To answer your question about adjusting the regen braking in the previous version of the Model 3; the previous Model 3 Performance version allows you to adjust the front rear power balance, reduce/remove the effect of the stability control and adjust the regen braking effect down as low as you want in its "Track Mode". This mode was only available in the Performance version but it allows you to make the car rotate in a very controlled manner (a bit like a well sorted BMW M car). As you hinted at in the video, the only electric cars that are a practical proposition for long journeys in the UK (or elsewhere?) are the Teslas, for the simple reason that the Tesla Supercharger network is large and well distributed, with many chargers (8-16) at each location, whereas the public network is patchy and you're lucky to find a couple of working charge points at each location.
I think you should do driving test in same condition as Tesla's. When you drive BYD it was much wetter road so thats why you felt it was handling worthy. In my opinion
Seems like a great situation to me. If you are a fan of Tesla's minimalism, or their engineering and don't mind the minimalism, you get a Tesla. If you want tesla like features and price but you want more bling, go for a BYD. Same price (almost), same performance, different design. I'm a Tesla fan and owner, and I am very happy the BYD seal exists. I want more people in EVs, and more selection and variety is a great thing.
@@Normalhumman Yeah, because no one in an ICE has ever been stranded in the snow. Don't be stupid. I've had a model S for 10 years, been through 10 winters, no problem.
@@GOLD_FEVER Lucid has its own problems. It has some great engineering in parts - like their motors, but there are some deep problems there because their deliveries are shrinking over time, not growing. Do you want to get on a sinking ship? Also, Lucids are nice (at least sitting in one in the showroom) but they are approx 2x as expensive as they should be if they want to sell any.
@@tuankiethoang5869 Chinese companies are at their best when they copy Western technology which they can produce for cheaper thanks to their huge internal market. Chinese people love to hype Chinese products, yet they don't want anything to do with chinese goods as soon as they can afford Western goods. They know better.
Bit of a correction: at 13:22 the "Recall" (a software update) was for Tesla to update their Autopilot driver monitoring system to more actively watch the driver and alert them when they take their eyes off of the road due to a few incidents of drivers abusing the system which lead to injuries or death in resulting crashes. The reason Park Assist (along with some other EAP features) isn't working is because ever since Tesla switched to fully using their Vision (camera only) system from the "Vision plus Ultra Sonic Sensors" setup, they haven't fully re-enabled everything. They will re-enable everything in the future however there is no timeline as of typing this.
Not having physical buttons is a big NO for me. I HATE messing about with having to look at a touch screen and make sure I'm pressing the right thing. I'd rather just reach out for a knob or switch that I know is there and activate it while keeping my eyes on the road. I'd prob panic in an emergency situation trying to F about with a touch screen for everything. But that's just my personal opinion.
@@dsmluck I'm not a "techo-phobe" I own phones and tablets, I just don't need them when I'm driving, it's distracting. A touch screen can be the cause of an emergency situation itself when your taking your eyes off the road to f about with a screen while driving.
@@Desuetus It costs less, and tesla did it and they sell well so a lot of other manufacturers said "Well if they can do it we can do it" but then there was a pushback from consumer and so some are going back on it. Some like mazda never went for it in the first place.
A point of difference is Byd has V2L which is sought after in rural areas. The Seal AWD as tested is only £35k in Australia. The 2wd long range version is £5k cheaper (5.8sec) Similarly, the BYD Atto 3 is only £27k. Sales tax is lower than in UK at 10% which contributes to lower prices, but it appears byd still have got room to lower prices in Europe when they are ready!
erm, why are you putting the onus on lowering prices on BYD when it's likely the europeans putting their high tariffs on (might even be 100% tariff) to prevent chinese competition?
They can't lower their prices, it's do with EU tariffs that have more than doubled on Chinese imported cars. Germany lost their edge and can't compete so their automotive complex lobbies the EU constantly to get their own way, any EV's from China will have tariffs to jack up the prices of imports and make them look as if they are priced poorly compared to German cars. The goal is to obviously push consumers into picking a German car rather than a Chinese car to fuel the German economy. Tariffs used to be 17.1% now they're at 38.4% which has rightly annoyed China along with smaller EU nations as this means they can't get a cheap EV anymore in a time in which the EU have mandated a stop sell on combustion engines from 2035.
Tesla should learn a bit from the Chinese BYD. Greater design, pretty nicer looking interior, and buttons that just make sense and are needed. A BYD seal with Tesla level systems would be a huge hit
Why waste 20k on a car that'll barely last 2 years, when you could invest 22k in one that'll run strong for 20? Thought so. Choose brands that stand the test of time-so far, no Chinese brand has made the cut.
I'd take the Tesla all day over that BYD, but the BYD pretty much beats every other electric car at that price. The Chinese are coming - traditional OEMs are going to have trouble competing.
So to sum up: Tesla Model 3 wins: Range Efficiency Software Navigation Interior Driving Autopilot and assist features Backseats Front luggage Truck Faster charging Better brakes BYD Seal wins: Baby seats easy Gear stalk Blinker stalks Gaugecluster Tesla wins the test from Matt! Did I miss anything?
Are they comfortable to drive? are they quiet? are the seats comfortable? are the parts sturdy? for me this stuff as much more meaningful when buying a car rather than how do they drive at speed around a corner most of us will never even try
This isn't a review, it's an obvious BTD sales pitch. If CarWow asked all those legit questions, then the Tesla would be the obvious winner. BYD is a cheap imitation of Western carmakers.
@@MisterMonsieur Lmao tesla is pure trash with the worst quality and no battery tech, China's BYD and CATL are the world leaders in battery tech, trashla can never even come CLOSE.
A lot of Teslas innovations don’t seem safe. Reverse on the touch screen, car info on the touch screen to the left of the driver not directly in front or HUD. The indicators wheel on the steering wheel doesn’t take into account people with small hands. And what if the touch screen glitches? The BYD at least has a physical gear shift as an alternative.
@@Stratos1988 "Something like 3+ years of use." - It is more interesting to see the owner after the battery replacement process on his Tesla. And ask him how many miles he could drive for $20,000 in a car with an internal combustion engine?!
@@ouner-699 Probably yes, more interesting, but I want to see deteriorated battery. One that is used on daily basis, but not commercialy (so this excludes uber). Just your drives to work, school, shop. I'm curious is it still usable within reason, or if it's just 1/8 of initial capacity, and won't make it around the block.
Rented a model 3 for 3 days in Canada while on vacation. My car is an X3 and I have had sporty sedans before (being a sort of fan of “nervous” type of cars with character). Conclusion: The Tesla won me because it is so easy to DO EVERYTHING YOU NEED ON A ROUTINE basis. It becomes YOU. The control of speed, grip, acceleration, cruise control, charging points and overall FUN while feeling SUPER safe. Cons: Does not have a HUD, yes I love that in my X3!!! I use it to control the different speed zones and for quick GPS instructions. BTW guys there is an option on the 2023 model to adapt de de-de acceleration mode in levels ! My wife never liked it as much as the combustion engine coasting but it just takes a little of getting used to (30 mins). The entertainment system is lots of fun if you have kids like me ! The auto software update in my opinion is more of an advantage ! Great comedy in the trunk guys 😂
I just made this decision in australia and it was easy. The seal was much cheaper here and the interior of the Tesla is awful. The hud and luxury interior made the difference for me
Congratulation on your purchase The significant difference in price is all down to Taxes to try and limit the growth of china's EV industry. At equal tax rates their would not be a comparison, BYD is a far better choice. Even at the prices shown in UK (about equal) I believe BYD looks a great choice. The only 2 advantages I see to the Tesla are the drive planer ( and honestly this could come soon to BYD or to apps like google maps or waze.), and the drive stability (I.E steering at 50+ M/hr) which wouldn't show in 90% of our normal commutes. In terms of looks, interior design, & finish feel i love the BYD seal. Also, in the long term, looking at china's dominance over the battery manufacturing, OEM battery replacement will probably be easier and cheaper on BYD for longevity.
@@soulei1990 Not sure how taxes trying to "limit the growth of china's EV industry" applies here - the Telsa and BYD cars we get in New Zealand (and Australia) are both made in China. Up until the EV rebate finished about 3 weeks ago, the Tesla Model 3 Long Range was £32,000 while the Seal Perfomance was still £40,500 (as it was over the rebate cap) so the Telsa was an even easier choice
@@mindtpi I can't speak for New Zealand, but in the makers country, the Seal is cheaper than Model3. so the reason the seal is more expensive in Europe(and I suspect New Zealand) than model3 is because of tariffs that are higher for Chinese brands. US and EU have some tariff easing between them that benefits Tesla. These tariffs are a big source of tension right now between EU and China and are well documented. China increased tariffs on French wine as a warning a couple weeks ago for example.....
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BYD just made a flying car.
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Chinese car experts or mechanics show you the Real BYD car technology.
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BYD EV technology at its finest.
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The rear wheels falling off, was hilarious 😂 @illusion180976
It’s a tough call, but ultimately I’d choose the Fiat Multipla
It's a great car actually, place for 6 adults, almost 400L boot, shorter than 4m, great visibility, large mirrors and unique Italian style 😊
94 celica
@@basshead.1991 Celica ST205 GTR & 1995 Celica GT4 ST205.
@@m4ci3j88add also FIAT COUPE TURBO PLUS.
Geely's Zeekr brand will soon revive a Multipla lookalike with 3+3 layout and it's electric.
6:50 reverse gear on the touchscreen is absolutely insane. Who the hell thought that would be a good idea.
elon
Except there are physical buttons on the rear mirror. But i am sure you would still complain
@@nguyep4 physical buttons on rear mirror to change gears?!?!
cost saving department
So much cheaper to have everything on the screen..
And bigger repair BIll as EVERYTHING is on the screen..
Must be some bribes payed to get that legal in the Eu.
The BYD seal costs < 30k pounds in China. The single motor version costs about 24k pounds, taxes and fees included. Ultimately I think the EVs in EU are still not that affordable.
yes let them ship EVs to europe without taxes and see every single European car manufacturers go bankrupt in 5 years! lol the whole EU is a lot cause when it comes to manufacturing
The up front cost is likely not affordable for a lot of people, but they are much more affordable than ICE cars in the long run. I did a cost analysis of my tesla model 3 vs a ford focus and over 9 years the tesla was far cheaper despite costing a lot more up front.
@@Kewickviperthe difference is that works for people who can afford brand new petrol cars, but a lot of people have 5-10 year old petrol cars which are wayyyy cheaper
Yeah, also a Big Mac is like 3 dollars in china, compared to an average of 6 dollars in the euro zone... It's how our economies works.
True but it’s a bit different for cars. Actually, e.g iPhone costs about the same price. And cars in China used to cost much more when China was not able to produce competitive cars. Now the China wages increase but cars prices decreased dramatically
As an Indonesian, I think I would choose BYD over Tesla, you can buy BYD Seal here half the price of the basic Tesla model 3. Tesla infrastructure and support is still considered too remote to beat other competitors like Hyundai or Wuling in terms of infrastructure and support (in fact, almost all electric cars I've seen is Hyundai or Wuling because it is cheap especially Wuling here smashed the electric car market). Tesla is still considered as a luxury car though.
You picked your money over safety
@@Yaybravl What the f is so safe about Tesla ? Both are Chinese made !!
@@hossain_nemo
Engineering design 😂
@@Gunter_Custom you mean engineering a foot pedal that gets stuck easily? that sounds "safe" indeed...
@@wahahabuh
yes exactly 🤦
Who at Tesla thought swiping screen to change gear was a brilliant idea
Looks so incredibly inconvenient
Great for a passenger to do it
The cost cutting department
they should do like in cybertruck, because you can use left hand for shifting and right hand for steering.
There are buttons for it down at the wireless chargers and above at the hazard buttons but it seems that Matt didn't know that
The seal here in Aus is considerably cheaper than the 3
Bum Ya Daddy
yep!
Yes was just about to say that, but all these wouldn't work inland
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Sort of but there isn’t a performance version to compare it to
Ummm, when he was doing the test drive and he said the Tesla handled better, but when he was driving the Tesla, the road was dry and when he was driving the BYD it was raining and wet. How can you compare?
This is also why I dont watch this channel to draw actual comparisons. Its because Matt becomes very baised between many brands including brands belonging to the same parent company and country.
Because he's a Musk simp.
also different tires can make big difference
24.28 he is testing on the wet road too....
Carwow will help tesla on review.. ? You don't know tesla famous for not willing to advertise? I could say byd paid carwow to make their car review better.
In my opinion, Byd Seal is superior for 3 reasons. 1. It is easier to navigate and it is closer to a normal car with buttons. 2. The interior is way superior. Amazing attention to detail and the quality is just better. 3. Battery. Byd has the best battery in the world right now. Even Toyota wants to use Byd's battery for their new EV cars.
Yeah but I wish bye had the as good steering and efficiency as Tesla. I love byd sealion 6 but Inclining towards model 3 now.
Byd look better too
I hate the trend of exchanging physical controls for touch screens or gestures or something. And I will resist it as best I can.
Most actual car manufacturers are changing back to physical for important stuff and leaving the touch for entertainment.
That doesn't feel or pleasure while we driving it gives us driving a golf club car with great speed on the road 😁
Your kind will extinct, like dinosaurs 😂😂😂. In the era of AI, we no longer drive a car, we just sit on moving thing to go to another place, as simply as that
你又没用过，怎么会了解呢？😂
The car should at least revert to a simpler screen with few big buttons.. That amount of buttons and details on the road is dangerous
I understand Tesla wants simplicity. But a heads up display would be a great option to offer.
Tesla wants cost cutting. That's why you get physical nothing inside. A HUD is an expensive add-on.
@@patriotbarrowokay but couldn’t it be offered as an option? I’m sure a lot of people would buy it as an add-on.
@@goodmoviesrl5089Their whole manufacturing is set up to avoid lots of different SKUs and options. Adding HUD would add more cost than you might think given their processes. But they really need to bring back indicator stalks!
@@goodmoviesrl5089 Thing is Tesla is still selling the M3 in the millions, so why would they add something that costs them? If demand ever slackens (though frankly I think it's telling that pretty much everyone has given up the ghost on that ever happening and stopped predicting it, there genuingly seems to be limitless demand for any Tesla product annoyingly enough) and Tesla's research indicated adding one would bring a load of new customers to buy a 3, then sure I could see them do it, but we're probably a looooooong ways off from them feeling any need to do so.
@@patriotbarrow yes. That’s why it would be an option.
The exterior design of Seal is designed by JuanMa Lopez from Lamborghini and the interior is designed by Michele Paganetti from Mercedes Maybach 🎉
Oh darn, no wonder I love the design so much
This thing will do by every company. Every company buy someone
So you can't say it's really Chinese then, eh? The battery tech is from Panasonic, etc. etc.
@@vjhushashi what??? BYD is the world leading producer of rechargeable batteries. They are the innovator of blade batteries which has much higher energy density and safer than previous batteries. Even Tesla, Toyota and other EVs started using blade batteries supplied by BYD. Whether u like it or not China is moving fast and is rapidly coming to its own technological innovations and ideas..Now even their phones from copying apple have started to have their own designs. Their government is obsessed with havintg the latest cutting edge technology by incentivising young engineers to compete in robot fighting tournaments, events and what not. And the government even at the local level are always ready to finance struggling companies if they think they have potential. Look i don't wanna dive into politics or their foreign policies but one thing for sure is China is just different when it comes to pushing for the future(together). If the US had not intervened, Huawei could have become the world leading provider of 5g technologies.
@@vjhushashi You may not know the advantages of BYD's whole industry chain, as far as I know, except for tires and window glass, steel, the rest are self-produced, and the price of seal in China is less than 25,000 US dollars
The issue of BYD Seal copying Tesla lights, I think you should ask BYD's global design director Wolfgang Josef Egger, who used to be the chief designer of Audi and Lamborghini, so it is hard to convince me that the Germans copied Tesla
you know, it looks almost identical to the Tesla 3, I don't care who is in charge, there is unlimited number of choices and he choosed the same design as the direct competition.
@@M7awesatand if some products are this easily to be beaten just by other’s copy it’s outlook, then those products deserved to be chased out of the market, instead of criticizing the competitor on an imagined “moral high ground”
They're both awful. The Tesla has absolutely zero personality. It's the blandest car someone could possibly design. The BYD looks better, but still it looks too much like the Tesla to be considered good.
So your entire point is that Germans are too high class to copy?
@@spooky.- I just want to make a point that China enterprises have no bad habit of copying design and intellectual property rights.
The BYD Seal has just landed on Indonesian shores this week and it already beat Tesla due to several factors:
• Factory support - BYD is fully factory-supported and partnered with a well-known dealership network. On the other hand, Tesla doesn't have full factory support over here since it's sold through a general importer.
• Established reputation - Prior to selling passenger cars in Indonesia, BYD won procurement contracts for taxicabs and low-deck city buses. The buses have decent quality and excellent performance.
already beat yet isnt selling yet? ok
Only in Indonesia lol
@@BreathOfDustnot necessarily true ,I am not a fan of electric cars but I did noticed that the sells of BYD are quickly increasing around the world , they haven’t yet hit the US and some other Europeans countries yet but it seem that soon they will ,it was even on the news about how BYD could became a tough competitor
@@Mathis218337 That's the magic, In alot of asian countries, BYD already won without even selling. If people are buying electric cars, they go after BYD without a thought. Most people think , its just cheaper, built better, faster speed, better service. There is no competition at this point.
@@dechubasco830so your product is so good nobody buys it 😅 doesn’t add up
BYD seal just launch in Malaysia, the Premium version ( extended range ) is even cheaper than Tesla Model 3 standard version. And comes with 19 inch rim as standard. And BYD seam more of a complete car than Tesla model 3. I just not use to no stalk at all for Tesla.
Nobody cares about byd except for one race in Malaysia lol
@@Ash-io2wrcommoners only care about proton and perodua
Tesla suspension is also way too stiff. very uncomfortable for daily city driving in roads with imperfections..
@@Ash-io2wrjealousy is an ugly thing my friend, best for you to start learning Chinese instead of seething
@@Ash-io2wryou can't afford neither so it doesn't matter
as a cartel hitman that is interested in being eco friendly I really appreciate you showing how many bodies can fit in the new BYD trunk. Thank you!
U work for the DEA
a hit man is a eco friendly job, eliminate the source of pollution permanently 😅
@@passby8070 DEA run the cartel
😂😂
Fit better in pieces though.
Byd looks more premium and beautiful too
That swiping when you are parking is just stupid :D
as I understand it depends a bit how you park your car, when "Auto shift from Park" is activated, the Model 3 is designed to automatically select drive mode or reverse mode. That is, if there is a wall, for example, in front of your car, the car will automatically drive back when you step on the accelerator and vice versa when you have an obstacle behind.
The touch screen will show the selected driving mode when the driver's door is closed and the seat belt is fastened. A friend told me about it.
There is a gear selector on the roof near the hazard light button, slighty above the rear mirror
@@Guezz87 Who the hell thought it was a good idea to put a drive selector (and hazard light switch!) on the ceiling…
It’s not a problem in US I assume where they have giant cars and giant parking space
@@LJ-wo1wfsomeone who doesnt have to do a 7 point turn just to get out of the dead end road where he lives i guess.
I always wonder why Carwow never talk about charging costs. public charging is so expensive in the UK (Around 85P per KWH) - tesla superchargers cost around 45P Per KWH - this is a massive consideration for any potential EV buyer but never gets a mention
Basically all Tesla chargers are now open for non Tesla vehicles in UK and Europe, for 10 bucks a month you also pay the cheapest price. We only charge at them with our Kia 😊
The majority of owners charge at home which is often less than 20p per kWh
I don’t know if its an app bug, but just recently Tesla increased their prices and has opened most of their superchargers across Europe to everyone. It’s not exclusive anymore
@@Pouimatiomthat’s factually incorrect. Only several sites are open to non-Tesla vehicles in the UK. And the cost of doing so is more expensive than a Tesla driver pays.
Cuz they have to put electric woke agenda how they are green and all the positives 😂
Agreed, the removal of stalks is the dumbest decision by Tesla in a long time.....right up there with forcing the YOKE on fools.
How do you feel about Lambhorghini and Ferrari removing them years ago? Yoke is not forced, it is an optional change.
No it’s not. Get used to driving super cars instead of shitboxes and the stalks will never be a problem
i have the 2023 model 3, it's the dumbest thing i've seen tesla do and i won't buy another tesla if they don't have them in the car@@chabweezy9905
ehh you get used to it. it's fine. People need to stop complaining about change, until they experience it for themselves. Then if it sucks, that's fair, feel free to complain.
@@chabweezy9905you are a complete clown 😂 Removing stalks in a normal car is stupid AF champ.. Let me guess, you don't even own a car yet.
I just love the way you tested shutting the car doors on both Tesla & BYD Matt. Hahahaha....
I’m really impressed with that BYD.
Don't worry, is another fire hazard like all of their cars.
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Yeah! It's amazing and more cheaper
its like 20k cheaper 😅
Ikr! What's more impressive is the random self-ignite feature!
@@smiling_dog ironically the model 3 has the same battery 🤣🤣
Great comparison! Just an idea: please consider to put on screen the ranges in kilometers whenever you mention "freedom units". Your videos are viewed all over the world, and most of us use the international system. That would be awesome!
Agreed, +1 from New Zealand
god yes!!!
these videos are meant for casual viewers and especially children lol. Matt is more of a comedy fun guy .
Freedom units are used in the US. This is good old imperial.
He's advertising a UK based website, so makes sense he would talk primarily in the Langauge the customers he's aiming for will understand.
But yeah, no issue with putting other units on the screen
It's not very hard to do conversions
17:58 the BYD Seal is also available with a light blue interior for free, whereas the white interior on the Tesla is a €1200 option...
Yeah the interior posterior it's a win for byd
Exactly. White vinyl doesn’t cost any more than black vinyl. They have no sense of style at Tesla, the same colors forever and then they add two more, a grey and a red that look almost identical to other colors they already have. Tesla’s are so boring.
The light interior was available in all trims and external color choices, but now it's only available in some trims and with certain external colours.
Australia.
in aus it's a $1500 option.
Does the BYD Seal play "kiss from a rose" on the audio system when you drive it for the first time?
With a car expert like Matt, that 2 min parking was the most stressful thing I’ve ever seen 😅
If I knew nothing about the BYD, I would still pick it, because it doesn't need the touch screen to change gears P/R/D 😅
Also I can't stand the lack of driver's screen. These 2 things aren't "features" they should be standard.
After watching the video, I'm quite keen on trying the BYD when I go electric.
Guess I'm a "boomer" for liking PHYSICAL switches and selectors
Honda e is fun if you dont need a real car for trips and stuff. Its small, quirky and fast up to 160kmh. Plenty analog too on top of the crazy screens.
@@kenric1460have you tried the touchscreen?
@@AWAVAVA I have on a Teslsa Model S and 3, and I'm not a fan of it
@@kenric1460 I see. I personally like it. It's just like my phone. Just curious what it is about a touchscreen that causes strong feelings.
correct me if I am wrong, it was dry when you drove the Tesla where the BYD was in the wet.
money talks.
You are right. They probably did that on purpose to show that Tesla's control was superior.
In fact, BYD's handling performance is completely superior to Tesla's.
25:03 clearly wet for the Tesla
26:31 and see the dust coming up at 26:34@@jptj7729
This is why I bought a Model 3 Gen 2 instead of Gen 3. The gen 2 does have the Creep options. Also has the better gear shift and signal poke. Has even more room under the boot and drives somehow better and faster because it has 513hp.
For the Seal, you can turn off stability control by swiping down from the top right and pressing the "ESC off" button.
Thats quite complex to do in the BYD SEAL.
In a 'normal' car there's usually a dedicated ESC button. Car makers need to move away from putting everything on a touch screen before it kills someone, if it hasn't done already🤬
ya, these people are too lazy to explore.
Even if your phone is in a cradle its illegal to use the touchscreen whilst driving. How is taking your eyes off the road to try and turn the traction control off using the built in touchscreen any different?
yep with that off you can drift and do donuts with the Seal. Really fun to drive.
In Seal you can change climate temp and fan speed by pressing a button on steering wheel to enter a menu on the smaller screen.
It looks like near the end, you drive the Tesla when it was just starting to rain so the roads were still somewhat dry and had more grip, but you drove the BYD after its already rained and the roads were fully wet. You should have done a proper comparison of when the roads were dry for both cars.
The BYD's stability control was clearly being Audi-aggressive. Same with the brakes.
I agree with you, I would like they test in same conditions. After all that, I guess Tesla still performs better.
@@nht_vng8669 It depends on how you define performance. To me, the Model 3 is extremely heavy and is mediocre in anything but a straight line. Driving one really feels like an old muscle car from the 70s. Silly fun in a straight line and then you have to actually make that corner.
The Tesla Model 3LR in Canada is about 38,000 Pounds after all rebates and taxes and about $48,000 USD after all. its about $66,000 CDN. We only currently get the Shanghai built Tesla's here with the CATL batteries. If the BYD was $10000 cheaper im sure alot of people would choose it instead if we had that option. Currently you can't buy any BYD's in Canada. Great Video!
加拿大这么冷的天气是不是不适合开电车？
isn't it China vs China?
lol u remind me almost half tesla were produced in Shanghai
Not wrong there given that the M3 Highland was developed in Shanghai.
Yes😂
@@wongcw08 and tesla uses Chinese batteries too from BYD and CATL.
You're right.
You can turn the ESC off on the BYD, swipe down on the main screen and there is a shortcut button to turn it off.
The thing with the turn signals on the steering wheel is simply a no-go
BYD Wins
The BYD Seal also has another lighter Interior colour choice - which is a no cost option. The Tesla white interior costs an additional £1.1k 😂
Bum Ya Daddy
Omg I can’t believe people actually pay extra for that hideous white Austin powers interior!
lmao true, he's biased towards tesla he doesnt even attempt to hide it
1. Handling. For most people, the handling of BYD Seal is good enough and the softer suspension make it more comfort than Model 3. So the handling difference is none in 99% circumstances.
2. Charging network. If you often drive a long trip, Model 3 is far more better than BYD. If you charge at home in 99%, there is no difference.
3. Driving habit. If you still own ICE cars after you buy an electric car, just choose a more traditional-handling EV. You can switch EV and ICE cars effortlessly and keep safe. That's far more important.
Until u crash and rip😂
@@lahiruprasad2931this guy needs to discover Euro NCAP or C NCAP with IIHS
To be fair, you could just use ABRP for navigation in BYD. I use it all the time in my Leaf, and it does exactly what Tesla maps does. Plans route for your car with charging stops, and tells you how long to charge at each stop.
you dont see that BYD had to lose?
@@buravan1512 Not sure what you're saying.
@@wtfiswiththosehandles read again
@@buravan1512
Even I cannot understand what you wrote my friend.
Do you use your phone app while driving, or can you download it in the car?
Too many Teslas on the road and for this reason I'll buy a BYD.
Both are Chinese cars so can't complain.
Sorry but you dont talk about battery tech. BYD has far better battery thech, blade battery (lfp) that wants to be charged to 100% much better than have to think about only charge 80%
the use the same battery…. Both use byd jajajaja
You forgot to mention BYD's batteries are all glued together and you can't replace battery blades and need to replace the ENTIRE battery unlike Tesla which you can replace each module.
@@luisa.rodriguez5886 nope Tesla uses CATL batterie
also the BYD burst in flames out of nowhere, so yeh, there's that.
@@stewie_You know Tesla buys BYD batteries right ?
I saw both at Autosport NEC and honestly the BYD looked more premium to the Tesla side by side.
exactly.
Tesla is one of the cheapest looking cars I’ve set my eyes on. Its a shame cause they drive so good just super cheap inside.
I agree with your opinion
Again one of my favourite features of EVs is the one pedal driving with regen. Absolutely love it and almost Zero wear on your brake pads. My model S has done 66k miles and still on original brake pads.
petal
Yes but your disc will rust.
@@MrAdopado opps
@@i679n5 but it hasn’t. You do use it a little, enough for no rust to build up. As I said 66k miles done and no rust and still with original discs and pads.
"Peddle" lol.
3:47 every time my Uber comes with this car 😂😂😂
You forgot about battery. Each of this cars used BYD battery
Panasonic 😂
@@amincasanova The most advanced electric vehicle battery now is BYD's blade battery
For vehicles built at the Tesla Fremont Factory, the company sources 2170-type batteries with a nickel-cobalt-aluminum cathode chemistry from Panasonic's production line at Gigafactory Nevada.[163]
For vehicles made at Gigafactory Shanghai, batteries with a nickel-cobalt-manganese cathode chemistry are sourced from LG Energy Solution's factories in China.[163]
@@玉佳瓏 that will be TOYOTA solid state battery
Now this is a lie
Nice review matt, BYD is starting to get better and better with their Evs. I like Tesla but some of their decisions make me shake my head in disbelief. Like who are the people that come up with removing stalks, gear selectors or changes the horn to a button. Cost cutting is 1 thing to lower cost and make Evs more affordable but it shouldn't come at the expense of reliable driving options like stalks and gear selector that have been tried and tested for decades.
Eh its not a big deal.
Dive it for 10 mins and it becomes 2nd nature, your thumb automatically selects the turn signals and swiping to reverse is straight a up better.
Elon Musk that’s who
Поворотники убрали люди с нетрадиционной сексуальной ориентацией
@@laciadams7899 Yeah straight up better, that's why he nearly crashed into the beemer in reverse LOL. It's an idiotic decision and a complete deal breaker for me personally.
I do hope the byds are more quality than the ones sold in china. They catch fire way too often
That closing door sound test got me thinking that there's a Rickroll incoming
A new Performance 3.8 model in Australia costs ~ £35,000, and there's a £1,750 govt rebate after that. A new Model 3 Tesla costs ~£45,000. One of these marques is currently selling through the roof, the other, not so much.
Here's a suggestion to enhance future comparisons: consider evaluating the sound system. The sound system often gets overlooked in car reviews, which is a significant disappointment. I'm confident that many people prioritize the quality of the sound system when considering potential car purchases.
Especially us who drive 40000+km a year and most of it by ourselves. Also the microphone quality check on calls would be much appreciated. There is a huge difference between mf’s. My Audis and MB’s has had great quality mics but our ‘20 Skoda Superb and our previous VW Passat had subpar quality on that department. So much road noise that they were pretty much useless
True. Lately I've seen few instances including high-end cars where branded sound system was just weak or dull. I bought a quad set of Kenwood speakers for my car and the difference is very noticeable. Also few years back I got to drive 2012 X3 that had upgraded sound system, and it also was one of those "oooh there is more background in this song than I heard" moments.
Tesla model 3 sound system is very good. I am an Audiophile that own a 200k system at home. (it can't compare to a 200k system but it very good for car audio.)
I guess when city slickers have their 4 h daily commute, you must want sound system to keep you entertained while stuck in traffic LMAO
I agree but also testing how loud they can go and still sounds good, because lots of people like to have the music loud to sing along on the motorway ect..
I've been driving a model x and I just bought a byd seal in Hong Kong as my second car, like it a lot, it's awesome!
Weird flex but okay...
@@lawbringer9857 😂😂
Least naive new tech adopter
You are more capable of doing a comparison review, since you live with both cars👍
@@lawbringer9857 is it so unusual to have 2 cars?
In the handling test, you drive the Tesla on a dry and rough road and drive the Byd Seal on a road that is slightly wet like it's been raining bro.
Some white boy don't like Chinese brand, apparently!
24:30 - 24:40 - the road is very wet while driving the Tesla. Might not have been raining from the sky but the road was wet.
I'm sure drag race feature isn't an important feature. Everyones looking save energy not waste it 😂.
door sound test should be included in every review from now on please!! so satisfying!
The most inconsequential and pretentious aspect of cars. The Tesla has a frameless window and doesn't create the pressure, which causes the thump sound.
yes please
@@gauravk_in That's right. Instead, the Tesla's window rattles when the door is closed.
@@gauravk_in then open the window of the other car by a bit. there, problem fucking solved. and op's wasn't talking about it being a benchmark or anything, only that it's satisfying
I find it surprising that you have to manually add charging for the byd. I figured that would have been a standard UI feature.
You have no idea how hard it is to get all that live info. A Tesla even redirects you if a charger is full or it senses to much Tesla are en route or if it just isn’t functioning. Many brands struggle with it.
Yeah, Tesla is still the only one that does this well. Any other manufacturer will depend heavily on the limited Apple car play or Android auto or use some basic charging data with no real time update for road trips.
@@matthewwiemken7293 In China, these functions are all available and very comprehensive
I don't understand all the tesla bashing. Everything works in mine ... other than the paint. The charging infrastructure is clearly the best, that's why it will never be the cheapest.
BYD have said it will include this feature in a future software update.
Actually, in China, the cheapest BYD Seal just costs 150k CNY (about 16.5k pounds), and Model 3 costs about 250k CNY (about 27k pounds). So the seal takes more advantages in China lol.
now Qin costs 798k CNY, buying a car like shopping in Walmart
@@amashengde pretty sure that you meant 79.8k CNY (about 8.8k pounds, or 11k USD )
@@primakoenig4068 YES
其实中国特斯拉比比亚迪多的多，特别是在发达的城市，比亚迪太丑了
@@DYDY-mo5ej那你搞笑了，那你不如看看数据，或者在路上再看一下，即使北京上海，byd数量也非常惊人
In the old British driving school system, they called parking between two cars "Flush Parking", I passed my flush park on the first try, go next to the car in the front, be side by side, start moving back and half way, make a hard turn to enter the space keep going and then a hard turn the other way and you fit in perfectly
I genuinely believe telsa could do with taking some advise from its customers, like keeping the stalk, those lights a gimmick but people like so should have been in previous models too, seat covers etc.
Who?
They won't listen tho, because Elon wants to cut the costs as much as possible. Any feature that consumers would like would make the car more expensive to produce, so you can be rest assured that they will not do it. It is a similar situation with removng Lidar and ultrasonic sensors and only relying on cameras for Autopilot.
@@gclip9883 They just added light strips that no one needs in the interior, I'd rather take a stalk any day..
their customers won't complain, because even if you took the seats away, they would say "great idea Elon! why didnt the other car manufacturers think of that before." 😅
@@Glee73 so true!! 😂
26:00 - Yes, the original Model 3 offers the stopping modes. They removed it with the refresh. One downside to the Tesla is they'll take features away out of nowhere for "reasons".
Tesla got rid of the Roll and Creep modes after the EPA made changes to how the manufacturer had to calculate range estimates in different modes. Other OEMs will probably follow.
Main reason I cannot switch. Driving can never feel as seamless if you cannot coast. I'm sure some get to used to it, but it is so disgustingly jarring for me.
@@mortezamoryhajiha4452 For me it became a game. Quite a dopamine hit to nail a regenerative stop.
@@mortezamoryhajiha4452ever driven a manual?
We have an ID4 with no one pedal drive possible, and a '23 M3. One pedal is absolutely the way to go and we both prefer it. Getting back into the ID4 is a letdown, plus having to always flip the lever twice just to get it into B for Regen, annoying. In the '24 M3 it looks like they won't let you switch one pedal off, while in our '23 there are three brake modes which is great. Tesla and VW are both mistaken. All cars should have one pedal as an option, but allow the driver to choose like our '23. And it should be able to remember your preferred setting. This is all easy in software so it's pretty nasty they don't all do this.
byd in australia is about 50k and tesla is about 60k
So if the tesla screen breaks you are stuck with what you have gear selected
On the ceiling near the rear view mirror there are capacitive buttons for each gear as a backup.
@@toondkn nope
@@jacksmith-mu3ee lmao there is. source: I own one
@@toondkn I own a byd . Oh btw tesla uses byd batteries
So congrats. U own a byd repackaged .
@@jacksmith-mu3ee what is wrong with you
I’m really impressed with that BYD. As an American I would’ve never considered purchasing a Chinese vehicle before now but assuming we’re not at war with China in 5 years time I could definitely see adding them to my list of EV options. Even over Tesla.
Wait till they start making them in Mexico and avoid the 25% tariff and the price drops!
You can go and see about Byd u8, which makes you feel incredible. It can travel in water and turn around 360 ° in place
如果你買了BYD，你一定會後悔的，中國的電動車會自燃，全中國人都知道，建議你多看看中國本地的影片
@@ddd8407 🤣pathetic loser lives in your own world
比亚迪使用自己开发的磷酸铁锂刀片电池，而不是易燃的三元锂电池，电池的安全性是比亚迪在获得中国销量冠军的关键因素，全中国人都知道。@@ddd8407
The BYD isn't supposed to cost that much. It is far cheaper in Asia, which is why it has been so popular recently.
In Europe, European cars are cheaper but Asian cars are more expensive. It's the same vice vera.
Export and import fees
Import tariff
in INdonesia it cost only 50k USD the fastest one 3.8s
It is cheaper because they aare supported by the Chinese government. Soon every major market would wake up to that reality and start putting tariffs on the Chinese as China wants to dominate and thus they undercut the competition.
@@Undisputed_King That's only a minor part as BYD makes something like ~10x the profit per car in Europe compared to in China. The real reason is that BYD is capacity constrained, not just in manufacturing, but in distribution, sales, support, etc. in Europe right now. If they sold them with a similar profit margin as cars in China, there would be a year-long backlog of orders.
The BYD designer is Wolfgang Egger. Take up any design plagiarism complaints with him.
Mat thinks the front resembles a tesla roadster than a Porsche Taycan. Like... come on dude, atleast try to act that you've not been paid to promote Tesla
The seal was announced in May 2022 the Tesla was announced in September 2023 seems Tesla was the one Plagiarising here
@@admrsh testla designs are known before even ByD came. It's ByD that adopted Tesla designs because they want to be like Tesla kk. China does not make their own remember
I recently ordered a Tesla Model 3 Performance, and I have no regrets. Even if a BYD car were one-third the price, I would still choose Tesla. However, there's no denying that BYD offers excellent performance for the price, and the more competition there is among electric vehicle companies, the better it is for us consumers. So, I hope electric car makers from China, Korea, Japan, Germany, and the United States all engage in fierce competition.
So why would you still pick Tesla?
Most of the BYD models are now designed by the previous Audi designing team, so it is not exactly coping others.
I never really thought too much about it, but this review helped me to clearly see that I don't want any EV.
Why's that?
@@Lewis_Standing Presumably because neither of these (or most any popular EV) function like a normal car, Tesla being the prime example of that with their insane minimalism that is no only impractical but borderlines on dangerous.
@@Lewis_Standing Seems like if something happens to that screen, your car is effed. Kids roughhousing, break the screen, trip over. Lighting malfunction on the screen, car is dead. Nonsense.
@@zwerko "insane minimalism that is no only impractical but borderlines on dangerous." - nailed it.
i have seen some good conversions.....one being a porche and audi. done very good
When the wheel is turned on a roundabout I can see it being a nightmare to use the indicators
I have both.
I think many people missed the point, Tesla ultimate goal is not about making EV cars on the road, but an autonomous car, so the way they engineered their cars is very different from the Chinese.
Whereas BYD is just trying to make cars as appealing to the eyes as possible, while running on batteries, but they certainly do cut costs on where your eyes cant see.
15:00 - wtf did the car think you were trying to do? I saw you swipe the “drive selector” to Drive, and it switched back to Reverse with no warning? That looked like a cut-rate website designer built the control interface. How did they let this get through testing? It’s stuff like this that make me wonder which other corners were cut during development.
AMERIKA. Every murican car/product is pure SHIT. Kapitalism make sure everything is made as cheap as possible. Tesla Still have worse panel gaps than the T ford and lada Niva.
Batteries catching on Fire... Fast charging batteries is just stupid and dangerous.
Absolutely insane
It did that at 6:50 too
There's a lot of corner cutting in the software for sure. But I think a lot of quality talent is missing in the industry anyway. Taking a CS degree won't educate you on how to make reliable and performance-aware software - at least not if you took it after 1990. Most software is focused on time to market and imagined reusability ("Clean Code™"), in my experience. Tesla's software has some above average software parts but other parts are severely lacking, simply judging from the clock speed of the hardware. I can't speak to QA but they don't have the best rumors. They're mostly focused on impact safety, I've read. It feels like they're cost-cutting and preparing for the future, sacrificing UX in the present.
@@Muskar2 It's not really about the way it's coded- it's a design flaw. There's no room for mistakes or interpretation with a physical switch that discretely selects a specific gear, but with the Model 3the software (and your own senses) have to interpret whether you pulled a virtual lever far enough.
I bought a model Y, but if the BYD is available in the US, I would pick it over the Tesla. That gear change on screen is ridiculous, why makes simple thins complicated?
Not to mention the looks, saw a few Seal on the road. much more presence and nicer looking the plain and frog like M3
Maybe the American government wouldn't allow BYD to sell on your island?
lol，absolutely it is@@YiDaoWang
比亚迪很棒。它影响了美国的国家安全，所以它被禁止了。
I have the Model Y and I absolutely love the gear selector. I will not be upgrading to the new Model Y when it comes out because of the gear selector and the steering wheel. That looks very inconvenient and annoying.
Personally I prefer the screen swipe since it’s easy to know that you’re shifting correctly by looking right “at” the screen without having to look “over” a wheel (or to the middle console for other cars). Also predictive gear shifting can be really helpful (eliminating need to shift some times)
@@gbmoney8746yup and if anything goes wrong with your screen and can’t drive your car 🤷🏽♂️
You have physical buttons on the roof panel as well.
@@5kdaking334 actually there are touch capacitive shift buttons right next to the hazard lights button (so you actually have three ways to shift total rather than just one with the stalk)
Of course you would say that. First, you're bias. And second, "misery loves company."
19:56 I bet the cameraman started panicking when that button didn't work 💀
Hahahaha
I have both tesla and BYD, after watching this video i just feel like he only want to criticise BYD only. Well done !!
Ccp 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
To answer your question about adjusting the regen braking in the previous version of the Model 3; the previous Model 3 Performance version allows you to adjust the front rear power balance, reduce/remove the effect of the stability control and adjust the regen braking effect down as low as you want in its "Track Mode". This mode was only available in the Performance version but it allows you to make the car rotate in a very controlled manner (a bit like a well sorted BMW M car).
As you hinted at in the video, the only electric cars that are a practical proposition for long journeys in the UK (or elsewhere?) are the Teslas, for the simple reason that the Tesla Supercharger network is large and well distributed, with many chargers (8-16) at each location, whereas the public network is patchy and you're lucky to find a couple of working charge points at each location.
I think you should do driving test in same condition as Tesla's. When you drive BYD it was much wetter road so thats why you felt it was handling worthy. In my opinion
Seems like a great situation to me. If you are a fan of Tesla's minimalism, or their engineering and don't mind the minimalism, you get a Tesla. If you want tesla like features and price but you want more bling, go for a BYD. Same price (almost), same performance, different design. I'm a Tesla fan and owner, and I am very happy the BYD seal exists. I want more people in EVs, and more selection and variety is a great thing.
Sure so that their cars can run out batteries in cold and get them stranded along side you 😂.
@@Normalhumman Yeah, because no one in an ICE has ever been stranded in the snow. Don't be stupid. I've had a model S for 10 years, been through 10 winters, no problem.
If you want something that blows both of those completely out of the water get a Lucid.
@@GOLD_FEVER Lucid has its own problems. It has some great engineering in parts - like their motors, but there are some deep problems there because their deliveries are shrinking over time, not growing. Do you want to get on a sinking ship? Also, Lucids are nice (at least sitting in one in the showroom) but they are approx 2x as expensive as they should be if they want to sell any.
@@ColinFox Their target market is rich people, of course they won't sell like hotcakes.
The Tesla 3 is the better car, and the BYD Seal is the cheaper car. We all knew that from the beginning.
Tesla battery is produced in China and by a China company
@@tuankiethoang5869 Chinese companies are at their best when they copy Western technology which they can produce for cheaper thanks to their huge internal market. Chinese people love to hype Chinese products, yet they don't want anything to do with chinese goods as soon as they can afford Western goods. They know better.
@@docdave1994 Tesla's batteries are literally produced by BYD
stop acting silly
Everything china is bad got it @@docdave1994
Bit of a correction: at 13:22 the "Recall" (a software update) was for Tesla to update their Autopilot driver monitoring system to more actively watch the driver and alert them when they take their eyes off of the road due to a few incidents of drivers abusing the system which lead to injuries or death in resulting crashes.
The reason Park Assist (along with some other EAP features) isn't working is because ever since Tesla switched to fully using their Vision (camera only) system from the "Vision plus Ultra Sonic Sensors" setup, they haven't fully re-enabled everything. They will re-enable everything in the future however there is no timeline as of typing this.
Not having physical buttons is a big NO for me. I HATE messing about with having to look at a touch screen and make sure I'm pressing the right thing. I'd rather just reach out for a knob or switch that I know is there and activate it while keeping my eyes on the road. I'd prob panic in an emergency situation trying to F about with a touch screen for everything.
But that's just my personal opinion.
Well its you and any techo-phobe. What do you need to mess with on the screen during an "emergency"?
@@dsmluck I'm not a "techo-phobe" I own phones and tablets, I just don't need them when I'm driving, it's distracting.
A touch screen can be the cause of an emergency situation itself when your taking your eyes off the road to f about with a screen while driving.
@@pclarkey1988precisely
It's not your personal opinion, it's the ignored majority's opinion.
@@Desuetus It costs less, and tesla did it and they sell well so a lot of other manufacturers said "Well if they can do it we can do it" but then there was a pushback from consumer and so some are going back on it. Some like mazda never went for it in the first place.
If I had to choose one I'd go with the BYD even though I never heard of that car brand before
BYD so cool~
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I love his DJ remix on the closing doors lol
That stupid segment of the door slams got me to subscribe, thanks for the laugh 😂
Time code?
A point of difference is Byd has V2L which is sought after in rural areas.
The Seal AWD as tested is only £35k in Australia. The 2wd long range version is £5k cheaper (5.8sec) Similarly, the BYD Atto 3 is only £27k. Sales tax is lower than in UK at 10% which contributes to lower prices, but it appears byd still have got room to lower prices in Europe when they are ready!
erm, why are you putting the onus on lowering prices on BYD when it's likely the europeans putting their high tariffs on (might even be 100% tariff) to prevent chinese competition?
They can't lower their prices, it's do with EU tariffs that have more than doubled on Chinese imported cars.
Germany lost their edge and can't compete so their automotive complex lobbies the EU constantly to get their own way, any EV's from China will have tariffs to jack up the prices of imports and make them look as if they are priced poorly compared to German cars. The goal is to obviously push consumers into picking a German car rather than a Chinese car to fuel the German economy.
Tariffs used to be 17.1% now they're at 38.4% which has rightly annoyed China along with smaller EU nations as this means they can't get a cheap EV anymore in a time in which the EU have mandated a stop sell on combustion engines from 2035.
The Seal has no autopilot, not even a crummy version - that’s no good.
Tesla should learn a bit from the Chinese BYD. Greater design, pretty nicer looking interior, and buttons that just make sense and are needed. A BYD seal with Tesla level systems would be a huge hit
BYD, and everything from China, is a copy from something from the west.
You can't learn anything from BYD. They just copy other auto manufactures. Nothing original ever comes out of China.
🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢the Tesla is way nicer looking
You are funding the Chinese Communist Party - so naive. Where do you think they are going to channel the profits?
@@NoBaconForYouUh oh, wrong detected
Why waste 20k on a car that'll barely last 2 years, when you could invest 22k in one that'll run strong for 20? Thought so. Choose brands that stand the test of time-so far, no Chinese brand has made the cut.
I hate that they removed a physical gear selector and the indicator stalks
Minimalist doesn’t mean you should lose practicality
... except if you cut the costs with it ;) That is the Tesla recipe; cut costs through minimalism which is branded as modern and hi-tech.
I'd take the Tesla all day over that BYD, but the BYD pretty much beats every other electric car at that price. The Chinese are coming - traditional OEMs are going to have trouble competing.
You have to swipe the screen to switch to reverse????
There is a physical selector as well. "This horse-less carriage is missing the experience of flatulence and shit! I do not like it!"
新款是的
@@dsmluck There is? Where?
@@wtfiswiththosehandles Up top, near the rear-view mirror.
@@catbert7 lol that's ridiculous.
EU taxes are insane, here in Australia the Model 3 starts at $60k and the Seal is around $51k
You can go with a top spec Seal for $62k
does it already included all the taxes?
So to sum up:
Tesla Model 3 wins:
Range
Efficiency
Software
Navigation
Interior
Driving
Autopilot and assist features
Backseats
Front luggage
Truck
Faster charging
Better brakes
BYD Seal wins:
Baby seats easy
Gear stalk
Blinker stalks
Gaugecluster
Tesla wins the test from Matt!
Did I miss anything?
BYD won the drag race
@eoinf2773 Not true about better build quality.
@eoinf2773 What country are you in?
in china byd seal19.45K usd ，Model 3 34.2K usd
The BYD in Australia starts at $49k AUD which is £25k GBP. How the hell is it so much more expensive up there? The Tesla is $62k AUD for reference.
tariffs?
@@piotrszpot3206 I didn’t think that would affect automotive imports but then again I’m not an expert on UK trade policy
Are they comfortable to drive? are they quiet? are the seats comfortable? are the parts sturdy? for me this stuff as much more meaningful when buying a car rather than how do they drive at speed around a corner most of us will never even try
This isn't a review, it's an obvious BTD sales pitch. If CarWow asked all those legit questions, then the Tesla would be the obvious winner. BYD is a cheap imitation of Western carmakers.
Indeed, and on all those queries, look and feel, the Seal wins hands down IMO. Performance will be for the Tesla. But how often do you do a drag race?
@@MisterMonsieuryou are ignorant.
@@MisterMonsieur Lmao tesla is pure trash with the worst quality and no battery tech, China's BYD and CATL are the world leaders in battery tech, trashla can never even come CLOSE.
A lot of Teslas innovations don’t seem safe. Reverse on the touch screen, car info on the touch screen to the left of the driver not directly in front or HUD. The indicators wheel on the steering wheel doesn’t take into account people with small hands.
And what if the touch screen glitches? The BYD at least has a physical gear shift as an alternative.
Tesla took out the coasting/roll in the latest update to improve range I believe, tho you can use the accelerator pedal to roll
You can turn it on
@@rustler08 I will check tomorrow but pretty sure it's also gone from my options. Tho my personal preference was always having it on regen brake
I like the new style of comparison reviews carwow. Props to the team for making this one. I hope you keep this format for many comparisons to come.
Looking forward to the next range test. Would love if you included the Polestar 2 refresh and the Zeekr 001.
polestar 2 is not in the same price range lol
I would like to see used electric cars range test. Something like 3+ years of use.
中国深圳最早一批byd电动出租车已经百万公里了@@Stratos1988😊
@@Stratos1988 "Something like 3+ years of use." - It is more interesting to see the owner after the battery replacement process on his Tesla. And ask him how many miles he could drive for $20,000 in a car with an internal combustion engine?!
@@ouner-699 Probably yes, more interesting, but I want to see deteriorated battery. One that is used on daily basis, but not commercialy (so this excludes uber). Just your drives to work, school, shop. I'm curious is it still usable within reason, or if it's just 1/8 of initial capacity, and won't make it around the block.
failed to mention , byd has black tinted glass while tesla is plain glass
Rented a model 3 for 3 days in Canada while on vacation. My car is an X3 and I have had sporty sedans before (being a sort of fan of “nervous” type of cars with character). Conclusion:
The Tesla won me because it is so easy to DO EVERYTHING YOU NEED ON A ROUTINE basis. It becomes YOU. The control of speed, grip, acceleration, cruise control, charging points and overall FUN while feeling SUPER safe.
Cons:
Does not have a HUD, yes I love that in my X3!!! I use it to control the different speed zones and for quick GPS instructions.
BTW guys there is an option on the 2023 model to adapt de de-de acceleration mode in levels ! My wife never liked it as much as the combustion engine coasting but it just takes a little of getting used to (30 mins).
The entertainment system is lots of fun if you have kids like me !
The auto software update in my opinion is more of an advantage !
Great comedy in the trunk guys 😂
Actually tesla also has secondary gear on top beside the double signal button
Most stupid place to put that! Also around the double signal. That in combination with no stocks for the blinkers Light. Tesla is not for me.
I just made this decision in australia and it was easy. The seal was much cheaper here and the interior of the Tesla is awful. The hud and luxury interior made the difference for me
It's the opposite way around in New Zealand, the Tesla Dual Motor is £36,600 and the Seal is £40,500
Congratulation on your purchase
The significant difference in price is all down to Taxes to try and limit the growth of china's EV industry. At equal tax rates their would not be a comparison, BYD is a far better choice. Even at the prices shown in UK (about equal) I believe BYD looks a great choice. The only 2 advantages I see to the Tesla are the drive planer ( and honestly this could come soon to BYD or to apps like google maps or waze.), and the drive stability (I.E steering at 50+ M/hr) which wouldn't show in 90% of our normal commutes.
In terms of looks, interior design, & finish feel i love the BYD seal. Also, in the long term, looking at china's dominance over the battery manufacturing, OEM battery replacement will probably be easier and cheaper on BYD for longevity.
@@soulei1990 Sure except for all the videos coming out of china with byd's burning up. Good luck with chynese quality.
@@soulei1990 Not sure how taxes trying to "limit the growth of china's EV industry" applies here - the Telsa and BYD cars we get in New Zealand (and Australia) are both made in China. Up until the EV rebate finished about 3 weeks ago, the Tesla Model 3 Long Range was £32,000 while the Seal Perfomance was still £40,500 (as it was over the rebate cap) so the Telsa was an even easier choice
@@mindtpi I can't speak for New Zealand, but in the makers country, the Seal is cheaper than Model3. so the reason the seal is more expensive in Europe(and I suspect New Zealand) than model3 is because of tariffs that are higher for Chinese brands. US and EU have some tariff easing between them that benefits Tesla. These tariffs are a big source of tension right now between EU and China and are well documented. China increased tariffs on French wine as a warning a couple weeks ago for example.....