Conspiracy theory: The entire reason ZA exists is because all of the Pokémon that still aren’t available on the Switch are available in base X & Y. This way, no Pokémon would have to be stuck in permanent Pokémon Home limbo.
Just Wish After This, We Get A Gen 8 Legends Treatment. Pokémon Legends: Eternatus 🎮 Needs To Happen. The Focus is On eternatus 🐉💀, The Game Mascot For Pokémon Legends: Eternatus 🎮. Pokémon Legends: Eternatus 🎮 is Set in galar, But galar From The Distant Past, it is Set in The 19th Century, Where The Humans & Pokémon Living in galar Haven’t 100% Coexist Yet. And eternatus 🐉💀 is Causing A Phenomenon Known As dynamax & gigantamax in Which Pokémon Turn Big & Go Rampage. Your Job is To Stop Those Gigantic Pokémons & Stop & Capture eternatus 🐉💀 & Save The Region. And You Can Now Use eternamax eternatus 🐉💀 in This Game 🎮. Just Wishes That This Came True. But There’s Going To Be Gym Leaders Here Too. So This Makes galar The First Region To Have Gym Leaders At The 19th Century, & Most Of The Gym Leaders Are Ancestors Of The Current Gym Leaders in galar. And The Main Antagonist is The Ancestor Of chairman rose, So This is A Trait Shared With The Descendant chairman rose. So chairman rose Turns Bad Runs From His Ancestor.
More likely: they planned out the availability of Pokemon on the Switch games to spread them across all of those releases to some extent. Why? So you would need to buy at least a version of nearly every Pokemon game on the Switch to be able to actually use all the Pokemon.
My personal conspiracy theory is that they chose to highlight Lumiose City because of the 2024 Olympics taking place in Paris with the Eiffel Tower being referenced in the game. And it's a huge marketing strategy.
They should make the gens 1-4 regions into a single game. Allow you to choose your starting region and choose your starter from any gen to use in your selected region.
@dusakim they definitely are capable they just won't. Why work harder than you need to to be one of the most profitable companies of all time, right?
You neglected to address ORAS formally establishing the multiverse in Pokemon. Zinnia references an alternate universe that would be destroyed by Grand Meteor Delta if it were warped there to protect the ORAS world, implied to be Gen 3 Hoenn. (Which by all accounts turned out to be a relative nothingburger, seeing as Deoxys landed safely on Birth Island with no apparent harm done, but I digress.)
Well keep in mind there is no meteor in Gen 3 Hoenn, there is only Birth Island with no sign of a meteor or crater for that matter, just the triangle, Zinnia is saying teleporting the Meteor to another dimension that didn't have one and doesn't have mega evolution, would be apocalyptic, and she'd be right, look at what one meteor did to the dinosaurs, literal first nuclear winter.
Pokémon has always had a multiverse, else there's no way to explain story differences between e.g. Ruby and Sapphire. That said, It's much more expansive than that. While the timelines are mainly divided into the "Mega branch" and "pre-Mega branch", the device that would be used to connect to another dimension is called the Link Cable. For anyone unaware, this is the real-world add-on you used to connect two Game Boys back in the days, implying not only every game version is a separate timeline, but every single _save file_ is a "canonical" timeline. The gen 7 games took the multiverse stuff even further, where you can travel between the Sun and Moon versions of Alola _in the same game._ Later in USUM there's also the whole Team Rainbow Rocket storyline, where you fight previous generations' villains from timelines where they won (Maxie and Archie even have their original character designs).
@@Destinum There's also Eternatus in gen 8 who's ultimate form is outright stated to be warping time and space because it's so powerful and the Paradox mon from Scarlet/Violet which the game STATES are from the past/future but look way to... alien for that to actually be the case.
@@ScorbunGame Not to get too into DLC spoilers, but it is later mentioned that the Paradox Pokemon might actually be from completely different timelines or worlds then the one in Scarlet and Violet
Imagine a Johto game released today that takes place in modern timeline. I can imagine all the upgrades throughout Johto as time passed while running into older familiar faces
meh, dont give me a modern Johto... Give me an older Johto. A game where the Traditional aspect comes through. Maybe even let the big baddy be Kanto itself, like during the waring states periode, just PG. Think about it. During the post game u go into Kanto and "fight back" and get pushed back into the direction of Johto just to have one big last standoff in the Indigo Platau with leads to peace between Kanto and Johto and have u be the very first Kanto/Johto champion that establishes the Elite 4 that now keeps the peace.
@@edgyguy7084I thought an obvious Pokemon: Legend game would be a game in which you help establish the first Elite 4 and first Pokemon League. It would be an old version of both Kanto and Johto with a focus on fighting and rock Pokemon; no fairy, steel, or dark. You just go around and catch Pokemon and find the toughest trainers to recruit into the elite 4.
@@edgyguy7084 I disagree, we already had a past legends game and if they do a pokemon war in a PG way it'd just be boring. No characters would die, which is an important part of war and we wouldn't see how pokemon would be adapted to war, which would be the most interesting part, as pokemon has made it clear it doesn't want to be fantasy dog fighting.
I agree, Gen 5 will be hard to remake but BDSP is a BAD template of how to do a remake. It WASN'T a faithful remake as it DIDN'T have the same moves, same movesets, same everything. On the other side, it wasn't even an improvement either. You had to download half the game onto your console at launch, which makes it anti-future proof, and that's a bad move for consumers.
@@galariangoldthey mean that when the switch servers go out, like the 3DS and Wii U servers recently did, that BDSP will be Unable to download the Day-1 Patch. which includes the entire OST actually being remixed instead of MIDI tunes, an actual post-game, as you’re unable to go to the Battle Zone (Battle Tower and Heatran) before the Day 1 patch, and other things too. So with the Day-1 patch being unable to be downloaded in the future, the games will be forever unfinished. Not to mention how glitchy BDSP was at launch too. You could actually reach the credits in less than 20 minutes lmao
Apparently later carts have the early updates already on the cart. It's not really a fix per se, but it could be reason enough for people buying the game down the line to keep an eye out.
@@peterrealar2.067 Bdsp is misunderstood it may not have had platinum content but it did add it’s own new stuff like expanded underground, updated qol, modern type chart, modern movepool, ramanas park etc and it’s got wholesome vibes Also Ilca is more experienced now It was loved by the mainstream casual audience The more hardcore fans may not have liked it but they weren’t the target audience The game was designed to be an approachable game for beginner players so they had to make it look as cute and as welcoming as possible hence the chibi appearance Bdsp added more new content than platinum tho It’s got the up to date type chart as well as the move pools It completely overhauled the underground It gave us the hardest elite four and champion out of any pokemon game We got ramanas park It’s got clothing customization as well It removed the hassle of HMs It’s way faster not slow anymore Bdsp fixed more than it “didn’t” Most people who were gonna play bdsp have already played it Ur bringing up hypotheticals that don’t even exist yet 😂
I personally think that Z-A is the direct result of Game Freak having some influence in what they get to create. Given that pokemon Z was cancelled, I can imagine where the desire came from
@@kefkapalazzo1I searched it up and it said it was, I don’t know where it comes from though, but every game before this had a 3rd game except for Pokémon BW which had sequel games. Also a part of the anime was called XYZ.
@@kefkapalazzo1 it hasn't been officially confirmed, but there's A LOT of evidence that a Pokémon Z was originally planned, both the XYZ season of the anime, Zygarde's presence in Alola and IIRC also certain file names that hinted at Z
@@kefkapalazzo1 X and Y were made during the same time as Sun and Moon and due to a time limit I guess they reused all the ideas planned for X and Y in Sun and Moon so it's unlikely that they planned originally intended to have Zygarde play a bigger role most likely in Pokemon Z.
@@austenlangfordin that case, I would prefer it if they remake the 2nd ones and not the 1st haha. But that's just me, and just in case they only release 1 pair.
@@robertwolfgan damn You right but then again we did have two sets of games a revival of gen 4 which was kinda meh and a brand-new story about the original Region before it became gen 4 Golden child of all the regions So that's why I thought that Gen 6 was getting the revival and the Origins story of what will be the war
ORAS was the blueprint if they were going for overall quality, same story but build upon it. i don't love that theyre separate now with legends with remakes being carbon copies and legends being lore. In ORAS I liked that i can play the classic story, battle the gyms and become champion, AND learn about the lore all in one via the post game. ORAS has both depth and details that made the story even more interesting and engaging to play, gave the main character a better heroic arch too
The remake of unova needs to be the best game they will ever made. I think they know how much the community loves gen 5. I'd rather wait a little longer than getting the gen 4 treatment... As far as exploration, lore and world build goes, Black and White was the peak of Pokemon. The remakes can't be mediocre.
I don't think the Legends games were ever supposed to follow the same chronological order as mainline games, Legends ZA's announcement probably doesn't mean much when it comes to remakes. I'd be shocked if gen 5 didn't get a remake in 2027 during gen 10 as the usual pattern suggests (hopefully it will be an actual improvement over the original and not the same game with chibi characters and HD graphics). As for Johto I also don't think it has to get a second remake, Let's Go was mostly made in order to get Pokemon Go players into the main series
My only issue is johto is (so far) the only gen that wasnt really improved on or vastly different in its remake. Give me johto but expanded to include lugia actually guarding over the 3 birds and drop whirlpool isles for an in game orange island. It would be so cool.
@@franciscoflamenco the remakes are virtually the exact same as the originals. They got a safari zone, so there is that, but otherwise nothing new happened. Im not saying they are bad games, they're my favorite, but look at how much changes for firered and leafgreen compared to the originals, or oras. They got whole areas, cool new features from games that had released since they were made, and/or storyline overhauls. They could have fixed the spawns so there were fewer kanto pokemon in johto and more johto pokemon there. I guess they did at least make Silver (the rival) more interesting at least
@@pzillgy The good part of ORAS are the good parts of the original Ruby and Sapphire. The good parts of HGSS are the things they added to Gold and SIlver.
Why they would realese unova remakes without new console and new generation? Legends Z-A realeseing before black and white remakes dont mean anything in my opinion and its meant to close the gap between generations like legenda arceus and lets go did
I think they want to use unova to launch in gen 10 alongside the new consoles and Johto would either become also a game in gen 10 like how gen 9 has the mainline gamea scarlet and violet, BDSP as remakes and legends arceus, well now it also gets legends Z-A, Z-A is probably there to fill in the blanks and help circle back onto the ORAS remakes by allowing them to go backwards Z is afterall the last letter in the alphabet and A is the first so you could read Z-A as from Z to A, meaning the plot may be something like they want to re-redevelope lumios city, this brings the play to the last time this happened and gives some expansion on Zygarde, Zygarde and megas seem to be kinda important in this story considering the theme of modernisation, redevelopement and the A looking like AZ's weapon, this may suggest that we will revisit old history like in XY to prevent the predicaments of the same mistakes being made again. I think thats why they are doing what they are doing, they arent planning anymore one game at a time but multiple games at a time to tell new stories but also enrich the old stories, they probably want to take Gen 10 and the new consoles to modernise the franchise so they take the region that started the megatimeline to build off of, go to the last soft reboot and finish the loop the remake of what originally was meant to be the franchises end.
also we’ve only had BDSP for like 3 years now, why did everyone forget remakes don’t come out for a good while after a remake drops? we probably wouldn’t get BW remakes for like another 4 years at least and why is everyone acting like because we are getting a zygarde spin off game that means they skipped over gen 5 or that gamefreak is “changing the way remakes work”
Yep, gen 5 is still the next likely remake. Every time a remake has come out, it's been on a new console, after the first mainline Generation game. GBA comes out, Gen 3 released, followed by Gen 1 the next year. DS comes out, Gen 4 released, followed by Gen 2 remake 3 years later but before the next Gen. 3DS comes out, Gen 6 released, followed by Gen 3 remake the next year. Switch comes out, Gen 8 released, followed by Gen 4 remake 2 years later but before the next Gen. If there's a new console in 2025, then Gen 10, then we'll probably see a Gen 5 remake shortly after. With a new console coming soon(possibly 2025), I could see Gen 5 remake around 2027 with 2026 being DLC year for Gen 10, to reflect the DLC release windows of Gens 8 and 9. This is similar to the past couple of release cycles. Switch launches Gen 8 late 2019 Gen 8 DLC 2020 Gen 4 Remake 2021 ----------------------------- PL:A early 2022 Gen 9 late 2022 Gen 9 DLC 2023 Nothing so far 2024 ----------------------------- New console launches 2025 PL:ZA early 2025 Gen 10 late 2025 Gen 10 DLC 2026 Gen 5 Remake 2027 So it makes sense to anticipate Gen 5 remakes sometime soon, but certainly not as soon as some people are thinking. And I agree that thinking that they're skipping 5 is strange, and it's pretty big speculation on their part. There's speculation, then there's WILD speculation, and for some reason the Pokemon community seems to prefer WILD speculation. lol
@@yvesthursdaybecause legends isnt a spinoff series, it's referenced the same way mainlines are in japan. and considering other factors in LA and that gamefreak always says they dont like doing the same thing over and over, i have a feeling that LA was always meant to be the true sinnoh "remake", and TPC had ILCA make bdsp out of fear that people wouldnt like that. LA was a sign of gamefreak getting more freedom, and i think LZ is taking that a step further as you can already see with the extra year of development time. of course unova isnt off the table forever, but i think indigo disk was meant to make up for it not being next, like how teal mask was probably meant to make up for no johto content. tldr i think legends is the new way gamefreak wants to do remakes, and theyre probably doing kalos because its the least developed while unova has stood on its own for years
Also gen 5 already has remakes (sorta) in w2/b2, gen 6 only has XY and no more, being the only game that didn’t had any other game outside of the 2 originals, making it the game that needed a remake the most
Let's assume they were saving black and white remake for last because it's one of the most significant and beloved pokemon games and the last of the pixel era
In theory it's supposed to be gen-10 since the only remake to not happen in a generation double its count is FR/LG, but thanks to B2W2 it would make more sense to make a B3W3 than to remake only half the story (either B1W1 or B2W2). There also isn't an ironclad rule saying there only have to be 10 generations of Pokemon, which would also mean more regions for more remakes to stall out the "Gen-5 is last" theory.
Another key point I don't see many people addressing is how the legends games can be used as their story based mythical Pokémon distribution. Pokémon like Darkrai and Shaymen were schoolyard legends only achievable through action replay until legends (and eventually BDSP events) and for years they were some of the few Pokémon I had been unable to collect. Legends Z-A have the opportunity to release research tasks to get Pokémon like Volcanion Hoopa and Diance which all are difficult to collect without occasional events on Pokémon go or hacking, and I have a great deal of hope that that will change with Legends Z-A.
@@yvesthursday Legends Arceus is a mainline and also reimagines the story of Diamond and Pearl (the narrative structure is similar), so it is a different kind of remake.
@@iviyohane it is a spin off. A spin-off game is a video game that takes gameplay mechanics, characters, or story elements from an existing series and takes them in a different direction.
“Remakes innovating on the old games with new features and sometimes story edits is bad because it makes the lore confusing” has got to be one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard bro :/
I just want a modern remake of gen 2 as it was my favorite. There was nothing better than playing through the game beating the Johnto league and finding out you can go to Kanto and defeat all those gym leaders as well.
They added new fun features Bdsp is misunderstood it may not have had platinum content but it did add it’s own new stuff like expanded underground, updated qol, modern type chart, modern movepool, ramanas park etc and it’s got wholesome vibes Also Ilca is more experienced now It was loved by the mainstream casual audience The more hardcore fans may not have liked it but they weren’t the target audience The game was designed to be an approachable game for beginner players so they had to make it look as cute and as welcoming as possible hence the chibi appearance Bdsp added more new content than platinum tho It’s got the up to date type chart as well as the move pools It completely overhauled the underground It gave us the hardest elite four and champion out of any pokemon game We got ramanas park It’s got clothing customization as well It removed the hassle of HMs It’s way faster not slow anymore
@@madnessarcade7447 | I haven't done the contests yet but what little I saw of them was enough to turn me off in comparison to what they were like in gens 3 and 4. The updated chart/movepools would've been nonsensical to leave out. "Overhauling the Underground" includes butchering secret bases. Instead of fun decorations, you got ... statues. Statues that impacted types' encounter rates in the Underground. Hardest E4 and Champion? If I'm bored enough to play through an easy Pokemon game I might plow through SP's gyms and see if the E4 actually becomes difficult. The closest it's come so far is Maylene being able to set up a Metal Claw KO against my Flamethrower-wielding Clefable. Whoop dee doo, Ramanas Park lets us catch legendaries from ... gens one through three. Swish's DLC covers all of the past generations and the ability to shiny hunt those legendaries even drew in people who had played through SV and its DLC, who were stung by the legendaries in SV all being shiny-locked. _Limited_ clothing customization, perhaps the fewest options out of any main-series Pokemon game that gives you the option at all. Oh whoop dee doo, I can use all six Mons at full power. All while they're already gaining far more EXP than they should thanks to a forced EXP-ALL being in place like with Swish, even when I'm running from wilds I don't intend to catch. I have to skip dex completion and trainers to *NOT* grind. Slower EXP gain at least let more experienced players use status-attribute moves to even the playing field. Here, though, SP saw me take a Monferno to Roark, and whatever level disadvantage I _did_ have was so insignificant that I could just figuratively autopilot. If I had known SP would be this boring and pathetic I would've skipped it like I did with Let's GO and should've with Omega Ruby.
2025 - Legends: ZA (X/Y) GEN 10 2026 - Main Series: Gen 10 (Greece) 2027 - Remake Game (Crystal) 2028 - Main Series DLC 2029 - Legends: (Black/White) GEN 11 2030 - Main Series: Gen 11 (Australia) 2031 - Remake Game (Emerald) 2032 - Main Series DLC 2033 - Legends: (Sun/Moon) GEN 12 2034 - Main Series: Gen 12 (Scandinavia) 2036- Remake Game (Platinum) 2037 - Main Series DLC 2038 - Legends: (Sword/Shield) Each Gen has 4 Year Life Cycle. 4 Year Production of Each Game. Start with Main Line Game then each year after adds to it. Main Series, then add Pokemon not in National Dex from an older Gen through classic remake, then add just a straight forward DLC, then top it off with Legends regional variants. Essentially 3 years of Main Series DLC through different mediums (Remake, DLC Story, Legends) Toss In Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, Ranger, Stadium, Snap, etc. in between these games.
Always wanted a Legends Kyurem game cause I feel like the lore behind the original dragon still hasn't been answered at all, like we only know about the separation but not what it looked like or where it came from and such
It was a result of both a shortage of (very) needed development time and Game Freak forbidding any kind of actual improvement. They didn't even take the bare minimun stuff that could've been moved cleanly from platinum to BDSP like... actual hideout designs instead of reused assets.
@@TechnoTrainer Bdsp is misunderstood it may not have had platinum content but it did add it’s own new stuff like expanded underground, updated qol, modern type chart, modern movepool, ramanas park etc and it’s got wholesome vibes Also Ilca is more experienced now It was loved by the mainstream casual audience The more hardcore fans may not have liked it but they weren’t the target audience The game was designed to be an approachable game for beginner players so they had to make it look as cute and as welcoming as possible hence the chibi appearance Bdsp added more new content than platinum tho It’s got the up to date type chart as well as the move pools It completely overhauled the underground It gave us the hardest elite four and champion out of any pokemon game We got ramanas park It’s got clothing customization as well It removed the hassle of HMs It’s way faster not slow anymore
@@saxor96for the record bdsp added more new features than platinum did simply put Bdsp is misunderstood it may not have had platinum content but it did add it’s own new stuff like expanded underground, updated qol, modern type chart, modern movepool, ramanas park etc and it’s got wholesome vibes Also Ilca is more experienced now It was loved by the mainstream casual audience The more hardcore fans may not have liked it but they weren’t the target audience The game was designed to be an approachable game for beginner players so they had to make it look as cute and as welcoming as possible hence the chibi appearance Bdsp added more new content than platinum tho It’s got the up to date type chart as well as the move pools It completely overhauled the underground It gave us the hardest elite four and champion out of any pokemon game We got ramanas park It’s got clothing customization as well It removed the hassle of HMs It’s way faster not slow anymore
@@madnessarcade7447 Some of those features are quick to program, and the speed was the *bare minimum* they could have done. And none of that excuses them outright ignoring platinum stuff that doesn't conflict with the main story in the slightest. Why choose a plain looking room instead of the exact same room, but with unique assets and textures so it's unique and nice to look at and shows it's part of the Team Galactic storyline? Why choose the objectively bad pokedex lineup instead of the Platinum one, which includes *all* new Shinnoh Pokémon instead of them being stupidly walled behind the post-game?
I will say that Gen I&II were the only generations that I think explicitly needed remakes. But Gen III, IV, and V still look beautiful to this day, and are a blast to go back to.
If you wanna be technical the multiverse lore of pokemon had been in the series since gen 1 for example the two versions being alternate realities Their approach was just more subtle about it
colored versions weren't alternate realities, what a dumb cope. they are the same game twice because of sales which is fine. what isn't fine is cohesive pokemon lore is ruined until they decide to decanonise multiverse. if they keep tiptoeing around the problem forever and don't actually decide anything, it only proves the point that cohesive pokemon lore is ruined.
That's only a technical byproduct of the game's being remade. It's true, but it's not likely they were thinking about it like that. Which is why I think GameFreak is only really acknowledging things related to Mega evolution as a separate timeline. You could probably include the anime as a timeline as well since it's still an ongoing series, that has affected the games from time to time lol I think what the video helps point out is that GameFreak cares about its world building but won't let that get in the way of a feature they want to try. from a 'lore' perspective the Let's go games allowed them to show how different that world is. The game is based more on yellow because they're making a casual version of red and blue, which they already remade. The original timeline is the Gen 3 versions because this and Gen 4 is when they started caring about continuity, like it was said in the video, they didn't expect Pokémon to last outside of the original Gameboy systems.
I'm all for a change of pace so long as there's still ways to experience the original versions of these games in a way that doesn't cost a kidney or two😅
Not going to lie, I would love to see the let’s go franchise go into all the third games from a Gen like Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, etc., Legends should continue to explore the mythical Pokemon and there should also be remakes of the gens like BW3, Z, Gen7 (Eclipse). Will make a ton of money with me at least.
Holy crap, thank you for making this make sense. Just realized that 6th gen was the most unfinished and thus this isn’t completely an unreasonable move. I want AZ’s Floette!
They have to remake Gen 5 especially for the younger generations. Also last I checkrd Z-A is a Legends game so technically doing a Legends before a remake isnt bad. There was many Unova references in Gen 9 so not having Gen 5 Remakes would make no sense and would upset a lot of people including me.
Agreed. gen 5 is hands down tue best generation in my opinion. The story of both Black and White and Black and White 2 are so good. And the music is awesome, specially, the battle themes
This was an interesting pov in terms of making a more faithful remake so as not to break to current lore alongside a Legends game which can further enhance that gens lore. I'm glad this video showed up on my feed 😊
Pokemon X and Y actually deserve remakes. They are iconic pokemon games that changed pokemon forever. They added another type, added mega evolution, and it became a best seller. I love Pokemon X and Y.
😂😂 I'm glad. It's not my favourite remake but it's fine alongside PLA and I'm glad it exists, even if it could have been done better. I get the criticisms totally though
@@o1sytI'm not very sure about that claim, not because I'm against it but literally haha I don't know enough to make an educated choice, I prefer to be among the ones that calmly admit they don't know instead of being among the dummies who don't really know yet they answer with baseless half made up knowledge. Is the next Pokémon game (I'm extremely excited for it!) Z-A considered a remake? I question that too, but to be fair here, I would say that any Pokémon remake is a good thing for any true fan out here hehe. Even ROM hacks.
Personally, I hope this means remakes are done. BDSP basically destroyed my faith in remakes, and I consider them the worst remakes for the same reasons you praised them. Pokemon remakes are different from other game remakes - they bring older generations up to the modern standard, in terms of mechanics, graphics, and lore, and BDSP just didn't do that. No Pokemon past Sinnoh were available, the graphics didn't match SWSH at all, and the only mechanics brought over was the addition of the Fairy-type. Unlimited TMs were scrapped, TRs made no showing, Daimax and Kyōdaimax weren't in the game at all, and nothing referenced the third version Platinum in the main story. And this isn't to get into the horrifying large day one patch which had such things as the music, the opening screen, AND THE POST GAME. When this game is as old as DPPt were when BDSP was made, DPPt will be objectively the better titles because the Switch won't have support if anyone gets the game for the first time.
Bdsp is misunderstood it may not have had platinum content but it did add it’s own new stuff like expanded underground, updated qol, modern type chart, modern movepool, ramanas park etc and it’s got wholesome vibes Also Ilca is more experienced now It was loved by the mainstream casual audience The more hardcore fans may not have liked it but they weren’t the target audience The game was designed to be an approachable game for beginner players so they had to make it look as cute and as welcoming as possible hence the chibi appearance Bdsp added more new content than platinum tho It’s got the up to date type chart as well as the move pools It completely overhauled the underground It gave us the hardest elite four and champion out of any pokemon game We got ramanas park It’s got clothing customization as well It removed the hassle of HMs It’s way faster not slow anymore
Give me a Legends: Mew/Two, where you follow the story lines of Mew and a human counterpart while simultaneously following a Team Rocket Grunt and the creation of Mewtwo (maybe TR Grunt and ancestor are connected?). I’d love to see Gen 1 do something with Mew since it hasn’t really been touched upon, other than as a random dlc. Plus, seeing things from a Team Rocket perspective witness Giovanni go absolutely bonkers over the creation of Mewtwo would be a compelling creative spin!
I got this video randomly from the algorythm and I found it so interesting listening to you ^^ Really well made video and it helped me a lot that you used subtitles :3 Keep up the great work ! Would you say that we can expect the new Pokemon Legends game being released on the new console or will it release for switch? :)
Thanks for the kind words! I think the new Switch will be backwards compatible and technically still a Switch so I think it will come out on both but look better on the newer model :)
This is amazing. I grew up with Kalos/Gen 6 and it's stil my favourite gen to this day. That being said Legends Arceus is by far myfavourite Pokémon game. So to see that Kalos is getting a Legends game, is absolutely the best news I've heard in a while. I'm sure it might not be AS good as Legends Arceus but I sure hope it's nearly as good.
I just went back and played X and Y and it was such a mess of a game. The story is all over the place, there are 3 mega evolution battles in the main game despite it being the main gimmick, and the leveling/gym spacing is AWFUL
Hopefully they fix the game but seeing how Arceus had such a boring story I doubt it will be good. They dont take risks or put the extra effort they should
Yeah they made X and Y so easy. Probably to appeal to children. But considering it was the big switch to 3D you would think they would of made them the best they could
I think the reason we don't get gen 5 yet is cause the can't "just" remake black and white without also remaking black2 and white2 as otherwise the story wouldn't be complete
I still rather have remakes that are made with the idea of making the same game but up to the current Gen's standards. The fact that visually ORAS is just a way better looking game than what BDSP were is really a huge letdown. And even in that chibi style they should have done a lot more for the environments and background details. Like you said there should have also been a lot more content added especially since how scaled back this remake is compared to past remakes. BDSP being given to another company to do the legwork with GF's supervision mixed with what we got really does make BDSP feel like a "budget" Remake. This comes from someone who loves Legends Arceous and is glad we got it but hopefully now future legend games will be like Z-A and not need a remake to pair it with.
When they remake gen 2, i hope that instead of 2 games, one for lugia and one for ho-oh, that they make 3 games, one for each of the legendary dogs making the story around their origins in the burned tower. Tidal crystal, scorched shadow, and charged earth. They could even give the 3 dogs new forms with a duel typing (could be primal, mega or somthing new) suicune could be water (tidal) and fairy (crystal), entei could be fire (scorched) and dark (shadow) and raikou could be electric (charged) and ground (earth)
We're way past the need of "remakes", imo. This new style of revisiting old generations by telling a new story in a completely different game is superior than remaking games that, at this point, don't need it.
your bit about legends expanding barely talked about pokemons opened my eyes on why we're getting legends z-a (before kyurem, for example), bc zygarde was basically an afterthought in xy; it got extra stuff in sun/moon but that's not where the fella is from, and isn't giving a real role to zygarde either; he has no role given, and he's the only one in a box legendary trio to have that problem (giratina had platinum, kyurem had b2w2, necrozma had ultra s/m); so now he's finally getting some damn lore relevancy thru the upcoming game
I completely agree, despite the mixed reception to BDSP gen 4 has gotten the best treatment for revisiting an older generation yet, and they should definitely continue that trend. Hopefully next year along with legends ZA we get a crystal remake with new mechanics. But my first game was black 2 so I’m still holding out hope that in the next few years we get a faithful gen 5 remake, potentially both games in one
I disagree, I could see an argument for BDSP being their most faithful remake yet, but the most meaningful remake so far has been either FRLG or HGSS, they both overhauled their respective past gen games in much more meaningful ways, and you could tell they put heart and soul into making those remakes. BDSP is just a soulless cash grab that changed nothing for the better and subtracted from how good the original gen 4 games were.
Being faithful and being a blatant copy of a past game are two different things. A remake can be faithful and have the possibility of enhancing the experience of a past game at the same time granting it a better sense of quality, or else it's just a copy with better graphics (which is the case for BDSP). One mustn't have played the og games or must be brainwashed to think that BDSP were the best remakes ever done, I'm sure you never played HGSS, FRLG or even any of the Let's Go (which imo are not so great as well), or else you wouldn't say something so biased
@@thesleepylippi every other remake is better, but BDSP is still good imo. They should’ve added more from platinum, spent more time with level design with diagonal movement, and worked out all the other kinks before publishing. But the game we did get is the easiest and best way to play the gen 4 games today, and they did add new content just not as much as they could’ve.
I don’t personably refer to the Legends titles as remakes. They aren’t. They’re new games set in locations we know. I can see the Legends games *interacting* with the remakes in some way, but I don’t think they should be *called* remakes. It’s why I don’t understand why people lost their minds when they “skipped” generation 5. I’m almost positive we’ll get the gen 5 remakes next, in generation 10. There’s been a pattern for every remake, save for the very first ones. Gen 2 - remakes in 4 Gen 3 - remakes in 6 Gen 4 - remakes in 8 _Gen 5 - remakes in 10_ They didn’t “skip” or “forget” anything. It’s just not the right generation for it. And what better way to ring in a new console than with a remake of a game loved by so many?
I feel like another partial reason we got Z-A before Gen 5 remakes is that gamefreak knows those games are their highest quality games, so Gen 5 is on the back burner to take things slow and make sure it doesnt turn out a disaster. But what do I know
FYI, if you paid attention to what the villans said and did in Gen 6 it confirmed that there are 2 time lines. One where the giant ray was activated and one where it wasn't. The Ray created megas.
buddy's it's pokemon, i don't think most people care about the lore, why would it affect sales that bad, the only reason gen 4 remakes did so well because it was on the switch and there is over a 100 million people so no wonder pokemon has been selling like hotcakes and i don't think alot like it man it's clearly rushed and was insanely bad at launch and better now but platinum is still a better choice
Please dont ever say bdsp is "modern graphics" lol they could have easily made bdsp faithful with swsh graphics. Bw will get remakes in gen 10 maybe sequels.
You mean the swsh graphics that everyone made fun of and said they don’t wanna see games that look like that ever again and how they wished Pokémon went back to its old style? Careful what you wish for I guess
@@madnessarcade7447 those guys are all idiots 😂 I never said that I always liked swsh graphics. Most people didn’t really hate on the graphics there was that small loud group that you’re talking about but the vast majority like 95% loved swsh graphics. Most people hated on the dex cut. However with bdsp here there’s fanboys that defend the giant step backwards in graphics saying “it’s cherbi art style” when in reality that’s what the old games looked like second they look horrible lol.
@@psychopat4402 SwSh had horrid graphics, and the shading was fucking awful. BDSP should've had the Switch equivalent of ORAS Graphics, nice and smooth, less pixelation, but still KIND OF kept the Chibi art style rather than fully committing to it.
@@megaman37456 how can you sit and say swsh had horrible graphics? LMFAO “bdsp should’ve had the switch equivalent of Oras graphics” ….uhhhhh swsh basically did bud?? “The shading was awful” are you seriously focusing on something so small? 😂
I think they should tie in all the worlds to one big game. No need for new generations if they could finally have one huge world with a full pokedex for once. I know they wont though..
Very late to the party but I see what you’re saying. Perhaps even the events of Kalos tie into the Events of Unova which is where Legends Z-A also composes these origins. (The kings garden had Reshiram and Zekrom hedges) so perhaps due to the secret weapon something may have changed the course of history and we as the player get to decide how it happened. And maybe the remakes are deliberately delayed to come for a switch 2 brand deal as well which is why it’s not announced
I fully agree with this video and now Legends is a way for GameFreak to not trap themselves in a pattern with the series. Going back and revisiting older regions in a different way with the Legends games will be a way for the series to keep itself from stagnating while giving us something different between main line generations.
If you mean no pattern in the order of regions visited by Legends games, yeah. I'd agree. They could pick any region in any order for their Legends releases; and it wouldn't need to coincide with the standard remakes' release order. If you mean pattern in regards to release timings of various games however, there absolutely is a pattern. Generations are being released in 3 year windows, in November of those years. (2016/2019/2022/2025/etc.) Legends games are being released earlier in the same year as a new Gen (2022/2025/etc.) The year following a new Gen sees their expansions/DLC. (2017/2020/2023/2026/etc.) Remakes have always released only when there's a new console, and only then after the first Gen on said console. (FRLG after Gen 3 on GBA / HGSS after Gen 4 on DS / ORAS after gen 6 on 3DS / BDSP after Gen 8 on Switch / and likely Remake 5 after Gen 10 on Switch 2) Meaning Remake 6 might not be until whatever console is after Switch 2. We don't know if Let's Go was a one off, or if there will for sure be more like it, but if they make more it's likely that they could have them in place of standard remakes in years where there is no new console. OR those years may be blank, as they were for 2024. ----------------------------- 2016 = Gen 7 2017 = Gen 7 expansion NEW CONSOLE 2018 = Kanto spin-off (Let's Go) 2019 = Gen 8 2020 = Gen 8 DLC year 2021 = Remake 4 ----------------------------- Early 2022 = 1st Legends game Late 2022 = Gen 9 2023 = Gen 9 DLC year 2024 = (nothing / or not yet announced) NEW CONSOLE Early 2025 = 2nd Legends game Late 2025 = Gen 10 2026 = Gen 10 DLC year 2027 = Remake 5 ----------------------------- Early 2028 = 3rd Legends game Late 2028 = Gen 11 2029 = Gen 11 DLC year 2030 = Johto Spin-off (similar to Let's Go) (might not even be Johto) Early 2031 = 4th Legends game Late 2031 = Gen 12 2032 = Gen 12 DLC year NEW CONSOLE (give or take a couple years, which may push remake 6 forward or back a cycle) 2033 = Hoenn Spin-off (might not even be Hoenn) Early 2034 = 5th Legends game Late 2034 = Gen 13 2035 = Gen 13 DLC year 2036 = Remake 6 -----------------------------
The timeline didn't get messed up, it was just split into different timelines which I honestly adore. And I love that we get remakes so that we can explore the different regions in a new way, I didn't grow up with the gameboy games so it's nice to get a chance to explore regions like kalos, hoenn etc on newer consoles with updates graphics and gimmicks etc. And I hope nintendo and gamefreak doesn't feel like they have to limit themselves to what they do with the timeline or what-not, I hope they continue to make cool remakes that add more to the original game the remake is based on.
Also,every game after gen 6 has been in the mega timeline,even if they arent in the games, scarlett and violet straight up mentions mega salamence Even masters and unite Masters has mega evolution,so does unite
@@kannan07 ? *Let's Go contradics the Mega Timeline:* *1.* Red isn't the protagonist (instead, it's Chase/Elaine), Blue isn't the rival... he didn't become the Kanto Region champion. *2.* Actually, Red and Blue ARE there... but they ALREADY completed their journey... btw, the pokedex wasn't invented, and none of them could've stopped Team Rocket (it was the protagonist of the game who did it) *3.* If Red DIDN'T beat Giovanni, why would him remember it in USUM? *4.* If Red (and Blue, at some point) wasn't the champion, how come it was mentinoned in SM? *5.* Concept Art of LGPE reveal the characyter *Mina* is 13-15 years old, while in SM/USUM she is *at least,* not older than 19 years old (as she mentions, trial captains retire when they reach 20 years of age), which may not sound like a problem... until you realise it means ONLY 4-6 years have passed between these games... Good luck trying to fit ALL the games in the Mega Timeline in this short timespan... *6.* If only 4-6 years have passed, how would the timeline look? LGPE/ORAS -3y-> MEGA-JOHTO/BDSP -(11-12y 💀)-> MEGA-BW -2y-> MEGA-B2W2/XY -2y-> SM The timeline needs about 20 YEARS to work 💀💀💀 *IF* we disconsider the 11-12 year old gap between JOHTO/BDSP and UNOVA (that happens due to 1. that Rocket Grunt that, AFTER the Johto events, gets married and has a SON, about the age of becoming a trainer himself at the time of BW, 2. some pokedex entries we'll get to later), because *"bW dIdN't hApPeN iN tHe mEgA tImElInE, oNlY iN tHe nON-mEga, sO nOtHiNg tHaT hApPeNs tHeRe iS cOnFirMeD iN tHe mEgA, aLtHoUgH iT iS sAid ThEsE uNiVeRsEs aRe sImiLaR aMoNg tHeMsElVeS"!!!,* then we MAY have: LGPE/ORAS -3y> JOHTO/SINNOH/UNOVA (Contradicting official info that says BW happens AFTER GS/DP)-2y> UNOVA/XY -2y-> SM/USUM It fits 7 years exactly (it STILL can't fit in the 4-6 years range)... but I needed to create a HUGE stretch to fit it like this (even contradicting official info), shortening the timeline from about 20 years to just 7. *7.* Porygon dex entries from SM/USUM state it was created "roughly 20 years ago", and some official media, specifically the book "Pokedex (1996)", state it was created in 1995 (and the Pokedex research is 100% completed in 1996), pretty much confirming the whole timeline to be in a 19-20 years old range (even basically confirming my first timeline, minus LGPE). *8.* Did I mention Red has "96" written in his shirt? (Like, honestly, doesn't that ring a bell? That he *MAY* have completed his journey/became the champion in 1996, establishing a link with my previous point?) Btw, in the (now-defunct) official Sun and Moon website, it is said that "The rising popularity of Pikachu-styled merchandise around 20 years ago is the reason that Mimikyu makes itself look like Pikachu." A popular theory connects the dots and says that Red, winning the League with a (unevolved) Pikachu, made it become a celebrity, and, with that, ended up creating some in-lore Pikachu merchandise boom... *9.* Pokemon Origins fits the role much better.
I think if we have a final let's go game representing Johto then they can reference that originally the pokemon series was going to end with gold, silver and crystal and maybe have silver be there as a mentor for the characters, gold being somewhere else in another region or something, maybe Kris is still trying to complete the Pokedex, and maybe trip(or whatever he's called I don't know) could be a researcher, maybe the male let's go protagonist could be on mt silver and the female one could be in cerulean cave, and maybe red could again be similar to how he was in the original let's go games and blue is still the Champion and green is doing green stuff(side note: if this does happen than please have cinnabar island be nonexistent and have that random kid's house be destroyed so they could make the magnet train station and have lavender tower be a radio station and maybe even have viridian forest be a field now liek in gold, silver and crystal)
I can’t wait until Black and White get remakes! They’re the absolute best gen hands down. Give me the remakes! I’m thinking… JetBlack and SnowWhite? Maybe a Legends Kyurem? Who knows
Again I want to say it for anybody just in case they forgot remakes are once per console generation and they usually happen when a new generation is going to launch to
they dont change the format they added it with more games. besides of gen 1 remake in gen 2 and gen 2 remakes in gen 4 was there always a 2 year gap and 2 gens between and 2 gens and 1 remake on every Consol DS: gen 4, gen 2 remake, gen 5 3DS: gen 6, gen 3 remake, gen 7 Switch: gen 8, gen 4 remake, gen 9 so its normaly that on the switch 2 comes the gen 10 first, then the gen 5 remakes and then the gen 11 and so on. Legends games and other spinoffs dont count really in this and can come every time GF or Nintendo wants it. dont watch the Legends game as a remake. Its not. This are betas for a better Open world games until GF knows how to make the best open world game for the main games.
so glad so you said this! i couldn’t understand why everyone is treating legends Z-A as a remake when all it is , is a spin off game. it’s weird everyone is acting like gamefreak/pokémon just skipped over gen 5 when that isn’t the case at all (also gen 4 remakes came out like 3 years ago so why would we get gen 5 remakes this soon)
The let's go games and Legends Arceus ARE mainline pokemon games btw. So switch has Gen 7: Gen 1 remake (Lets Go games), and Gen 8: Gen 4 remakes (BDSP) so yes the format did change at least once. :).
@@Goro_Maj1ma i know, but if you look on them you can count them more as something like Pokemon rangers, PMD and else. and nothing like RBGY, GSC, RSE, DPP and else. but yes, they are main games. but do they look like mainlines?
@@Goro_Maj1ma | I classify Let's GO and Legends Arceus as Unconventionals: Main-line games that don't play like main-line games. Colosseum (GCN) might've been the first Unconventional since it didn't have wilds, but Let's GO and Legends Arceus are basically what molded the categroy.
Pokemon has been following a pattern for years now and I think they will continue to do it this way. Gen2 Remakes in Gen 4 Gen3 Remakes in Gen 6 Gen4 Remakes in Gen 8 Gen5 Remakes in Gen 10 Gen1 is the odd one out but with the rest following a pattern, I think this is what they'll keep doing. They'll release a new region, an enhanced version or DLC, and then a remake. Though in generations like 7 and 9, they'll release something new or different. This is what I believe at least. I've always expected Gen5 remakes in Gen10 and will expect Gen6 remakes in Gen12 if we ever get that far. (Hopefully we do lol)
Y'all are so unobservant and impatient, it hurts to watch. For the past 14 YEARS, we've had the remakes come every EVEN NUMBERED GENERATION. THE GEN 5 REMAKES WILL BE GEN 10 GAMES. They aren't "skipping" a generation. Because so far as we know, legends games do not count as remakes, and are NOT replacing remakes.
Sorry.. why do you think a pattern of even numbers is going to have any sort of priority over what game actually feels right for GF to make, and what will be the best business decision? Let's Go was a remake that came during gen 7 and FRLG came out during gen 3 so there is no truth to what you're saying beyond a convenient cherry picked coincidental pattern within a 14 year window that ignores Let's Go and that you are choosing to apply as context to future decisions. Do you think if gen 2 or 5 games felt right for GF to make now, they would have a big business meeting and decide not to go ahead with them because they don't line up with a pattern of even gen numbers? My word. They absolutely, unequivocally have skipped a generation, because the last Legends game directly correlated to faithful remakes and came out alongside them. These were based on the region that chronologically was due remakes, whereas Legends Z-A has not followed that pattern. The irony of calling others unobservant!
@@galariangold Holy crap, I did expect this much salt in response to my comment. Sorry if I ruined your day, which is the only assumption I can make after a comment like this, but I don't appreciate seeing misinformation. Either way, this comment is not a good look, and its dropping the level of respect I had for you. Just admit you made mistakes. Either that, or your only motivation was following the trend of overanalyzing and milking the existence of a reveal trailer that didn't even show a speck of gameplay. Analyzing your comment- I'm gonna go ahead and ignore the near instantaneous response of silly billionaire bootlicking that is your commentary on "big business meetings" and "the best business decisions", and instead, I'm gonna look at you using the Let's Go games as a defense. Let's go Pikachu and Eevee are are irrelevant, due to them being an outlier for multiple reasons. Number 1: They didn't even let you battle wild pokémon, they added a broken system of stat raising candy that didn't stick around, and they added a weird real time catching system similar to GO. This makes people debate whether its even a mainline game. (And with the weirdly meta changes made to the story, and the piss poor difficulty levels compared to the originals, a lot of people don't want to see it as a mainline game either way) Number 2: they weren't made for the purpose of being a remake, they were only made as a failed attempt of drawing attention to Pokemon GO and restoring it to its former worldwide glory. Number 3, the biggest reason: They were entirely unnecessary, due to there already being a superior remake, Fire Red and Leaf Green. Let's Go pikachu and eevee are clear outliers of any remake release schedule/structure, and thus, irrelevant parts of the argument. Now to analyze somehow even MORE absurd part of your comment: *"They absolutely, unequivocally have skipped a Generation, because the last legends game directly correlated to faithful remakes and came out alongside them."* What do you mean, the last legends game? Unless you're living in the future, at this time of this comment, there has only been one legends game. And that's the problem. You are trying to say there's a pattern to be seen in the release of legends arceus, ONE GAME, being alongside remakes of the same generation. A pattern requires for there to be MORE THAN ONE THING in that pattern for it to be CONSIDERED a pattern in the first place. You know what also happened with legends arceus? It was revealed on the same day as the remakes of generation four. You know what didn't happen with Legends: ZA? It was not revealed alongside remakes. Which means that so far as we know, aside from the geography, it is probably completely separate from the remakes. Which means that the existence of Legends: ZA currently has no impact on ths release schedule of the remakes. Because there has currently been only one legends game, and minimal information about the new game, there is no pattern to be observed, and thus, they don't tell us anything about the future of the series. Which means that you're trying to observe a pattern which to our knowledge, does not currently exist. Which is insanely ironic, given the fact that you tried to scold me for observing what is currently a pattern that has been occuring for MANY YEARS. TL;DR? When you're wrong, don't make a fuss about it. Just. Admit. Your. Mistakes. If you change, and make a video about the inaccuracy of your theory is gonna make for more interesting content than you doubling down.
@@p4rm3s34nyeah no you're the one who's wrong here. Dude blatantly pointed out your statement of remakes only happening in even numbered generations fOr tHe pAsT 14 years is wrong. Gen 7 Lets Go games prove your comment is utter nonsense and blatantly false. Love how you call them irrelevant to your argue when thats your whole basis. I don't enjoy seeing misinformation after all. :) TL:DR when you're wrong don't make a fuss about it Just. Admit. Your. Mistakes. If you change, and make another comment about the inaccuracy of your statement is gonna make for more interesting discussions than you doubling down. 😊
@@Goro_Maj1ma gotta love how you don't even know how to use the word blatantly, and ignore the actual details of my argument without providing your own. Do you seriously think I haven't had these arguments before? Gotta love how you people think I just FORGOT about Let's Go and pretend bringing them up is some kind of a "gotcha"
The let’s go games aren’t true remakes. And they aren’t main line. To be a true main line game they’d need to have the same capturing mechanics that the games have always had.
Can you get a source that is not ign or Nintendo power of America ever confirming that gen 2 was the end of Pokemon no one at gmaefreak ever has said this literally get a link or something no just some guy on the internet saying generation 2 was the end a actual interview from anyone at Pokemon company or creature's ink and not someguy saying i read a Nintendo power
Just Wish After This, We Get A Gen 8 Legends Treatment. Pokémon Legends: Eternatus 🎮 Needs To Happen. The Focus is On eternatus 🐉💀, The Game Mascot For Pokémon Legends: Eternatus 🎮. Pokémon Legends: Eternatus 🎮 is Set in galar, But galar From The Distant Past, it is Set in The 19th Century, Where The Humans & Pokémon Living in galar Haven’t 100% Coexist Yet. And eternatus 🐉💀 is Causing A Phenomenon Known As dynamax & gigantamax in Which Pokémon Turn Big & Go Rampage. Your Job is To Stop Those Gigantic Pokémons & Stop & Capture eternatus 🐉💀 & Save The Region. And You Can Now Use eternamax eternatus 🐉💀 in This Game 🎮. Just Wishes That This Came True. But There’s Going To Be Gym Leaders Here Too. So This Makes galar The First Region To Have Gym Leaders At The 19th Century, & Most Of The Gym Leaders Are Ancestors Of The Current Gym Leaders in galar. And The Main Antagonist is The Ancestor Of chairman rose, So This is A Trait Shared With The Descendant chairman rose. So chairman rose Turns Bad Runs From His Ancestor.
Oras didnt really break any lore the way lgpe did And that's exactly why LGPE is not canon to neither of the timelines Because the fact is that Red is still the canon protagonist of both mega and non mega timelines,and he's the one who destroyed team rocket While for oras,the only plot hole oras introduced is why groudon and kyogre cant go primal in non-mega timeline,even tho its their true form and has nothing to do with mega evolution But that can be explained pretty simply In the non-mega timeline,their true forms are sealed for good In the mega timeline,the ultimate weapon turned the orbs that sealed them into orbs that could access their true powers once more Also there being two timelines isnt a theory,zinnia mentions it in oras
@@madnessarcade7447 featuring mega evolutions doesn't make it a prequel,and like I said It's not It's still a fact that Red remains the protagonist,Red stopped Giovanni and that still remains a fact Let's go has no placement in the canon lmfao Even the mina you battle in let's go,she's very obviously different from the mina in usum,not just by age And in Pokemon masters,this same Giovanni,after leaving the usum universe to go to a different one, straight up acknowledges that Red beat him And there's litterally no mention of LGPE
@@megaman37456 no you don't,instead of the goats red and blue,there's some cheap rip off called trace(rival[I think]) and I don't even remember the MC's name,says a lot cuz I know the name of th mc of fricking masters
All I’m saying is that when gen 5 get remade, it better not just be a 3D VERSION of the OG games. I want an actual remake like ORAS, where the animations and everything look like the animations of the current generation. Gen 5 was the first set of games I played and i have such a sweet spot for them. I also love the battle themes from unlovable!
Remakes up through ORAS were a way to bring back an older generations on modern hardware with the current gen gameplay. The issue was that these were all done in house as labors of love and to add to the current generation and add in ways to catch pokemon that you either couldn't or weren't easily obtained outside that games. Gen 1/2 was stuck in its own bubble so they remade Gen1 with FRLG to help bring back pokemon that couldn't be caught in Gen 3 but were programmed into the game. HGSS was brought about at a time to help bridge the gap during the DS era and was more so a labor of love from the creators than any of the other remakes which was shown through many of the interviews they did. The devs truly loved Gen 2 and it showed. ORAS was the next in the series and takes the prior reasons as well as simply being 'the next game'. Now throw in Gen 4... which itself was a mess and had a chunk of content that never saw the light of day. This also seemed to be where the devs themselves were getting tired of the constant cycle of new game/remake repeatedly. This is why we got PLA, a new take on the past of Gen 4 which allowed them to do something new, and the remake by ILCA which they put some serious contstraints on because they didn't want it to overshadow and show up their own PLA, and because they may not have had faith that ILCA would do well if they weren't simply doing a faithful remake. The biggest issue with the remakes was honestly that Platinum was ignored because we lost an entire chunk of endgame content from it that was extremely cool to play through originally. That said, I don't think they've truly 'skipped' Gen 5 because we now have a 3rd type of game. Main series, Remakes, and the Experimental games that PLA falls into. Its not truly a main series, but its not a direct remake of an existing game. Plus like PLA, the upcoming PLZ is also dealing with past history of that generation and may likely try new things/play different like PLA did with its difference in how the catch and battle mechanics were from SwSh. Its very possible that we might still see an upcoming Remake for BW/BW2. However, it could be another faithful style remake like BDSP were. Alternatively, BW/BW2 were a very odd generation for the series, as while they shared much, they were also directly sequels to one another and not just a 'third edition' of the game. This leaves room for speculation that we could receive very different treatment for that generation and possible see another sequel, an experimental game, or even some weird fusion of the two titles together because of the legendaries involved. Also, they seriously need to do a Let's Go Johto game. You can cry about not liking them but they were really just and were a way to get people into the game from Pokemon GO as well as great for younger kids, or getting your partner who isn't a gamer but likes pokemon/plays pokemon go to also play with you because of the co-op. Be mad, it was a good game, you're just not the audience for it. :P
Honestly I like Oras because of the mega thing, never really thought of the timeline thing I was just like “oh it’s the same thing but with megas you could perceive both as cannon no problem”
We literally got BDSP alongside the first Legends game, we cannot use Legends ZA to prove/disprove how the remakes are going to be handled from now on...
Nah, I'm sorry that's some fanboy logic, I like most generations of pokemon but gens 8 and 9 should be spit upon for their evident lack of playtesting, polish, and overall lack of any form of quality control.
Been playing Pokémon every gen since gen 1 on the original Game boy. Always buy both versions of the games. Probably spent thousands upon thousands of hours on all the games. My favorite gen is gen 3. :). Hot take. You're the one sounding like a fake fan here.
To be completely honest, I'm glad that we now entered the era of revisits, instead of just remakes. You can't go right with the remake. It's going to upset people either way. ORAS style remake? The games are too different now and lost their "charm". BDSP style remake? The game is too lazy and wasted a lot of potential. I think that the end of remakes should come to an end with older games being directly ported (or slightly refined) for the modern systems (with a few adjustments for dual screen games). This would be the best outcome for everyone.
yes more dex cut in all the future pokemon games. Dex cut allows for far more variety of used pokemon, and allows us to have DLC instead of third versions, and god knows we don't want third versions back.
My main problem with the latest remakes, aside from the pokedex being limited. The Let's Go games departed too much from series norms, while BDSP didn't change nearly enough to set itself apart from what Diamond and Pearl did. One main benefit isn't even because of the game itself just the hardware it's running on. FR/LG could've just been Red and Green with the mechanics introduced in Ruby and Sapphire, but it wasn't. We got meaningful post-game content. Heart Gold/Soul Silver added a whole new route. ORAS remixed the story and added a post-game. BDSP... overhauled the underground?
The biggest issue I have with BDSP is not it being a true to the original remake, but that it did not include the Platinum content and that the overworld sprites for following pokemon were lifeless. It could have been great if they'd just fixed those two things. All story events and Platinum content and just a little tiny bit more effort in the overworld sprites.
ideally we get games where you can explore the whole pokemon world with your adventure starting in a new region instead of remakes. storage and data compression technology have advanced enough to make this an easy feat.
I like your balanced take of BDSP tied with Legends Arceus. As someone who played both, BDSP did not ruin Gen 4 remakes for me. Ofc, BDSP would've done far better as a faithful remake if it also included Platinum features. Even I wouldn't be mad if Dialga and Palkia were marketed as the legendaries in BDSP but were actually red herrings because Giratina was actually the true center and the climax of the narrative, making Dialga or Palkia as more elusive legendaries and catchable later.
I wholeheartedly agree with you and the Gen 4 remake approach. All the commenters complaining about how BDSP was too faithful have gotten rather tiresome. They weren’t perfect remakes, but BDSP truly services old and new pokemon fans that wanted to try Gen 4 in its natural state; Legends Arceus being that nee “remake” that improves significantly on the source material.
Fun fact: Despite the Pokémon company,Nintendo and Gamefreak announcing that every single Pokémon remake is not associated with the current Pokémon generation when the remakes are released 99% of the Pokémon community decides to say that there are no Pokémon remakes. For instance, when Pokémon Pokémon firered and leafgreen versions were released 99% of the Pokémon community said that both firered and leafgreen were apart of the 3rd generation of Pokémon games Despite what The Pokémon company,Nintendo and Gamefreak have said and the trend with all Pokémon remakes continues in the Pokémon community calling them non-remakes. That is why, after the colossal fail of both Scarlet and Violet, I left the Pokémon community. I'm just getting sick and tired of remakes not being properly mentioned by 99% of the Pokémon community that I needed to finally say something. I was a part of the 1% that defended what was said by the Pokémon company,Nintendo, and Gamefreak about the remakes.
Pokémon had a rule. You make two games. And a third. Up till Gen 4. They made one remake per console generation and starting Gen 5 they made one sequel pair and continue forth. Gen 6 they considered a pokémon Z but moved to sun and moon along with their sequel/remake Legends was to add a new gameplay style to pokémon
You know this is a very great take and well considered. Hats of to you man. I remember being so frustrated and confused during the hype season of gen 4 remakes. I felt very much in the headspace to play a cool Pokémon game again since it had been a while since ORAS. And I remembered those times fondly. So when time came for gen 4 I was hyped. I wanted to experience that start to finish instead of in retrospect. So when no news came of new additions, new megas or any other cool new gimmick. I felt let down in some way. Later on Arceus did surprise me obviously and I slowly started to realize those games had done what I wanted from gen 4 remakes. But not entirely. And it wasn't the same as ORAS. But after all this time this explanation makes sense and somehow brings a weird closure to this question I had lol. Not that it's an important one. But a curiosity I had pondered nonetheless.
Conspiracy theory: The entire reason ZA exists is because all of the Pokémon that still aren’t available on the Switch are available in base X & Y. This way, no Pokémon would have to be stuck in permanent Pokémon Home limbo.
Just Wish After This, We Get A Gen 8 Legends Treatment.
Pokémon Legends: Eternatus 🎮 Needs To Happen. The Focus is On eternatus 🐉💀, The Game Mascot For Pokémon Legends: Eternatus 🎮. Pokémon Legends: Eternatus 🎮 is Set in galar, But galar From The Distant Past, it is Set in The 19th Century, Where The Humans & Pokémon Living in galar Haven’t 100% Coexist Yet. And eternatus 🐉💀 is Causing A Phenomenon Known As dynamax & gigantamax in Which Pokémon Turn Big & Go Rampage. Your Job is To Stop Those Gigantic Pokémons & Stop & Capture eternatus 🐉💀 & Save The Region. And You Can Now Use eternamax eternatus 🐉💀 in This Game 🎮. Just Wishes That This Came True. But There’s Going To Be Gym Leaders Here Too. So This Makes galar The First Region To Have Gym Leaders At The 19th Century, & Most Of The Gym Leaders Are Ancestors Of The Current Gym Leaders in galar. And The Main Antagonist is The Ancestor Of chairman rose, So This is A Trait Shared With The Descendant chairman rose. So chairman rose Turns Bad Runs From His Ancestor.
Only those few Pokémon not available
Pansage
Simisage
Pansear
Simisear
Panpour
Simipour
Furfrou
Patrat
Watchhog
Gen 5 won’t get remade because it was the lowest in Units sold. That’s why Gamefreak is skipping to Gen 6.
More likely: they planned out the availability of Pokemon on the Switch games to spread them across all of those releases to some extent. Why? So you would need to buy at least a version of nearly every Pokemon game on the Switch to be able to actually use all the Pokemon.
My personal conspiracy theory is that they chose to highlight Lumiose City because of the 2024 Olympics taking place in Paris with the Eiffel Tower being referenced in the game. And it's a huge marketing strategy.
They should make the gens 1-4 regions into a single game. Allow you to choose your starting region and choose your starter from any gen to use in your selected region.
Nah, they’d rather force you to buy 4 games again then sell it to us all in one game.
if you look at how bad scarlet and violet are coding/performance wise do you really think gamefreak is capable of doing 4 regions in one game?
So basically you mean pokeMMO
@@nxrayxnPokemon mmo did it how i wish gamefreak would
@dusakim they definitely are capable they just won't. Why work harder than you need to to be one of the most profitable companies of all time, right?
You neglected to address ORAS formally establishing the multiverse in Pokemon. Zinnia references an alternate universe that would be destroyed by Grand Meteor Delta if it were warped there to protect the ORAS world, implied to be Gen 3 Hoenn. (Which by all accounts turned out to be a relative nothingburger, seeing as Deoxys landed safely on Birth Island with no apparent harm done, but I digress.)
Interesting point!! Maybe I'll do a video on the multiverse in future
Well keep in mind there is no meteor in Gen 3 Hoenn, there is only Birth Island with no sign of a meteor or crater for that matter, just the triangle, Zinnia is saying teleporting the Meteor to another dimension that didn't have one and doesn't have mega evolution, would be apocalyptic, and she'd be right, look at what one meteor did to the dinosaurs, literal first nuclear winter.
Pokémon has always had a multiverse, else there's no way to explain story differences between e.g. Ruby and Sapphire. That said, It's much more expansive than that. While the timelines are mainly divided into the "Mega branch" and "pre-Mega branch", the device that would be used to connect to another dimension is called the Link Cable. For anyone unaware, this is the real-world add-on you used to connect two Game Boys back in the days, implying not only every game version is a separate timeline, but every single _save file_ is a "canonical" timeline.
The gen 7 games took the multiverse stuff even further, where you can travel between the Sun and Moon versions of Alola _in the same game._ Later in USUM there's also the whole Team Rainbow Rocket storyline, where you fight previous generations' villains from timelines where they won (Maxie and Archie even have their original character designs).
@@Destinum There's also Eternatus in gen 8 who's ultimate form is outright stated to be warping time and space because it's so powerful and the Paradox mon from Scarlet/Violet which the game STATES are from the past/future but look way to... alien for that to actually be the case.
@@ScorbunGame Not to get too into DLC spoilers, but it is later mentioned that the Paradox Pokemon might actually be from completely different timelines or worlds then the one in Scarlet and Violet
Imagine a Johto game released today that takes place in modern timeline. I can imagine all the upgrades throughout Johto as time passed while running into older familiar faces
Kinda disappointing that they didn’t go with a johto theme or game in general.
meh, dont give me a modern Johto... Give me an older Johto. A game where the Traditional aspect comes through. Maybe even let the big baddy be Kanto itself, like during the waring states periode, just PG.
Think about it. During the post game u go into Kanto and "fight back" and get pushed back into the direction of Johto just to have one big last standoff in the Indigo Platau with leads to peace between Kanto and Johto and have u be the very first Kanto/Johto champion that establishes the Elite 4 that now keeps the peace.
@@edgyguy7084I thought an obvious Pokemon: Legend game would be a game in which you help establish the first Elite 4 and first Pokemon League. It would be an old version of both Kanto and Johto with a focus on fighting and rock Pokemon; no fairy, steel, or dark.
You just go around and catch Pokemon and find the toughest trainers to recruit into the elite 4.
Id be okay with this.
@@edgyguy7084 I disagree, we already had a past legends game and if they do a pokemon war in a PG way it'd just be boring. No characters would die, which is an important part of war and we wouldn't see how pokemon would be adapted to war, which would be the most interesting part, as pokemon has made it clear it doesn't want to be fantasy dog fighting.
I agree, Gen 5 will be hard to remake but BDSP is a BAD template of how to do a remake. It WASN'T a faithful remake as it DIDN'T have the same moves, same movesets, same everything. On the other side, it wasn't even an improvement either. You had to download half the game onto your console at launch, which makes it anti-future proof, and that's a bad move for consumers.
I see your point, but Pokémon Home is the future proofing, if you're referring to the ability to preserve Pokémon you catch from BDSP saves
@@galariangoldthey mean that when the switch servers go out, like the 3DS and Wii U servers recently did, that BDSP will be Unable to download the Day-1 Patch. which includes the entire OST actually being remixed instead of MIDI tunes, an actual post-game, as you’re unable to go to the Battle Zone (Battle Tower and Heatran) before the Day 1 patch, and other things too.
So with the Day-1 patch being unable to be downloaded in the future, the games will be forever unfinished. Not to mention how glitchy BDSP was at launch too. You could actually reach the credits in less than 20 minutes lmao
@@galariangold No, I mean, you need a CONNECTION to get the rest of the game which won't last forever.
Apparently later carts have the early updates already on the cart. It's not really a fix per se, but it could be reason enough for people buying the game down the line to keep an eye out.
@@peterrealar2.067 Bdsp is misunderstood it may not have had platinum content but it did add it’s own new stuff like expanded underground, updated qol, modern type chart, modern movepool, ramanas park etc and it’s got wholesome vibes
Also Ilca is more experienced now
It was loved by the mainstream casual audience
The more hardcore fans may not have liked it but they weren’t the target audience
The game was designed to be an approachable game for beginner players so they had to make it look as cute and as welcoming as possible hence the chibi appearance
Bdsp added more new content than platinum tho
It’s got the up to date type chart as well as the move pools
It completely overhauled the underground
It gave us the hardest elite four and champion out of any pokemon game
We got ramanas park
It’s got clothing customization as well
It removed the hassle of HMs
It’s way faster not slow anymore
Bdsp fixed more than it “didn’t”
Most people who were gonna play bdsp have already played it
Ur bringing up hypotheticals that don’t even exist yet 😂
I personally think that Z-A is the direct result of Game Freak having some influence in what they get to create. Given that pokemon Z was cancelled, I can imagine where the desire came from
Where was it confirmed a was cancelled?
@@kefkapalazzo1I searched it up and it said it was, I don’t know where it comes from though, but every game before this had a 3rd game except for Pokémon BW which had sequel games. Also a part of the anime was called XYZ.
@@kefkapalazzo1 it hasn't been officially confirmed, but there's A LOT of evidence that a Pokémon Z was originally planned, both the XYZ season of the anime, Zygarde's presence in Alola and IIRC also certain file names that hinted at Z
@@williamwolffgang im not denying there's evidence im just asking if it was confirmed or not
@@kefkapalazzo1 X and Y were made during the same time as Sun and Moon and due to a time limit I guess they reused all the ideas planned for X and Y in Sun and Moon so it's unlikely that they planned originally intended to have Zygarde play a bigger role most likely in Pokemon Z.
Legends isn't a remake though. It's more of a prequel (and honestly one that alot of people want to see). The next remake is still going to be B/W.
It should be black and white 1 and 2 remade into one game. But the greed will make it 2 games. If we only get 1, that will be disappointing.
@@austenlangfordin that case, I would prefer it if they remake the 2nd ones and not the 1st haha. But that's just me, and just in case they only release 1 pair.
Mmmmm I don't think so I think Kalos are the next remakes
@@yaycoffe123 Bro...I assume you're joking since they pretty much announced Z which is the Remix of Kalos best...
@@robertwolfgan damn You right but then again we did have two sets of games a revival of gen 4 which was kinda meh and a brand-new story about the original Region before it became gen 4 Golden child of all the regions
So that's why I thought that Gen 6 was getting the revival and the Origins story of what will be the war
ORAS was the blueprint if they were going for overall quality, same story but build upon it. i don't love that theyre separate now with legends with remakes being carbon copies and legends being lore. In ORAS I liked that i can play the classic story, battle the gyms and become champion, AND learn about the lore all in one via the post game. ORAS has both depth and details that made the story even more interesting and engaging to play, gave the main character a better heroic arch too
YES! ORAS was a Godsend... did the Hoenn region story and Hoenn legends (probably my favorite legends, especially Groudon) justice.
The remake of unova needs to be the best game they will ever made. I think they know how much the community loves gen 5. I'd rather wait a little longer than getting the gen 4 treatment... As far as exploration, lore and world build goes, Black and White was the peak of Pokemon. The remakes can't be mediocre.
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Lol exactly the same thing people thought about Gen 4.
I honestly dont think gamefreak knows that they are beloved. Its a company and BW had the lowest sales for them
They need to redo gen 4 first
@@ericbeaudry8118lowkey, remaking the worse gen (x and y) while leaving the best one in the dust is disappointing tbh
I don't think the Legends games were ever supposed to follow the same chronological order as mainline games, Legends ZA's announcement probably doesn't mean much when it comes to remakes. I'd be shocked if gen 5 didn't get a remake in 2027 during gen 10 as the usual pattern suggests (hopefully it will be an actual improvement over the original and not the same game with chibi characters and HD graphics). As for Johto I also don't think it has to get a second remake, Let's Go was mostly made in order to get Pokemon Go players into the main series
My only issue is johto is (so far) the only gen that wasnt really improved on or vastly different in its remake. Give me johto but expanded to include lugia actually guarding over the 3 birds and drop whirlpool isles for an in game orange island. It would be so cool.
@@pzillgy What are you talking about? HGSS are the best remakes to date and among the most universally beloved Pokemon games.
@@franciscoflamenco the remakes are virtually the exact same as the originals. They got a safari zone, so there is that, but otherwise nothing new happened. Im not saying they are bad games, they're my favorite, but look at how much changes for firered and leafgreen compared to the originals, or oras. They got whole areas, cool new features from games that had released since they were made, and/or storyline overhauls. They could have fixed the spawns so there were fewer kanto pokemon in johto and more johto pokemon there. I guess they did at least make Silver (the rival) more interesting at least
@@franciscoflamenco in terms of 'best' i would argue ORAS did the most with improving on its original games designs
@@pzillgy The good part of ORAS are the good parts of the original Ruby and Sapphire. The good parts of HGSS are the things they added to Gold and SIlver.
Why they would realese unova remakes without new console and new generation? Legends Z-A realeseing before black and white remakes dont mean anything in my opinion and its meant to close the gap between generations like legenda arceus and lets go did
I think they want to use unova to launch in gen 10 alongside the new consoles and Johto would either become also a game in gen 10 like how gen 9 has the mainline gamea scarlet and violet, BDSP as remakes and legends arceus, well now it also gets legends Z-A, Z-A is probably there to fill in the blanks and help circle back onto the ORAS remakes by allowing them to go backwards Z is afterall the last letter in the alphabet and A is the first so you could read Z-A as from Z to A, meaning the plot may be something like they want to re-redevelope lumios city, this brings the play to the last time this happened and gives some expansion on Zygarde, Zygarde and megas seem to be kinda important in this story considering the theme of modernisation, redevelopement and the A looking like AZ's weapon, this may suggest that we will revisit old history like in XY to prevent the predicaments of the same mistakes being made again. I think thats why they are doing what they are doing, they arent planning anymore one game at a time but multiple games at a time to tell new stories but also enrich the old stories, they probably want to take Gen 10 and the new consoles to modernise the franchise so they take the region that started the megatimeline to build off of, go to the last soft reboot and finish the loop the remake of what originally was meant to be the franchises end.
also we’ve only had BDSP for like 3 years now, why did everyone forget remakes don’t come out for a good while after a remake drops? we probably wouldn’t get BW remakes for like another 4 years at least and why is everyone acting like because we are getting a zygarde spin off game that means they skipped over gen 5 or that gamefreak is “changing the way remakes work”
Yep, gen 5 is still the next likely remake.
Every time a remake has come out, it's been on a new console, after the first mainline Generation game.
GBA comes out, Gen 3 released, followed by Gen 1 the next year.
DS comes out, Gen 4 released, followed by Gen 2 remake 3 years later but before the next Gen.
3DS comes out, Gen 6 released, followed by Gen 3 remake the next year.
Switch comes out, Gen 8 released, followed by Gen 4 remake 2 years later but before the next Gen.
If there's a new console in 2025, then Gen 10, then we'll probably see a Gen 5 remake shortly after.
With a new console coming soon(possibly 2025), I could see Gen 5 remake around 2027 with 2026 being DLC year for Gen 10, to reflect the DLC release windows of Gens 8 and 9.
This is similar to the past couple of release cycles.
Switch launches
Gen 8 late 2019
Gen 8 DLC 2020
Gen 4 Remake 2021
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PL:A early 2022
Gen 9 late 2022
Gen 9 DLC 2023
Nothing so far 2024
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New console launches 2025
PL:ZA early 2025
Gen 10 late 2025
Gen 10 DLC 2026
Gen 5 Remake 2027
So it makes sense to anticipate Gen 5 remakes sometime soon, but certainly not as soon as some people are thinking. And I agree that thinking that they're skipping 5 is strange, and it's pretty big speculation on their part.
There's speculation, then there's WILD speculation, and for some reason the Pokemon community seems to prefer WILD speculation. lol
@@yvesthursdaybecause legends isnt a spinoff series, it's referenced the same way mainlines are in japan. and considering other factors in LA and that gamefreak always says they dont like doing the same thing over and over, i have a feeling that LA was always meant to be the true sinnoh "remake", and TPC had ILCA make bdsp out of fear that people wouldnt like that. LA was a sign of gamefreak getting more freedom, and i think LZ is taking that a step further as you can already see with the extra year of development time. of course unova isnt off the table forever, but i think indigo disk was meant to make up for it not being next, like how teal mask was probably meant to make up for no johto content.
tldr i think legends is the new way gamefreak wants to do remakes, and theyre probably doing kalos because its the least developed while unova has stood on its own for years
Also gen 5 already has remakes (sorta) in w2/b2, gen 6 only has XY and no more, being the only game that didn’t had any other game outside of the 2 originals, making it the game that needed a remake the most
Let's assume they were saving black and white remake for last because it's one of the most significant and beloved pokemon games and the last of the pixel era
In theory it's supposed to be gen-10 since the only remake to not happen in a generation double its count is FR/LG, but thanks to B2W2 it would make more sense to make a B3W3 than to remake only half the story (either B1W1 or B2W2).
There also isn't an ironclad rule saying there only have to be 10 generations of Pokemon, which would also mean more regions for more remakes to stall out the "Gen-5 is last" theory.
@@RaceBandit that makes so much sense actually
That would only make sense if it was actually a good game, which it isn't
Another key point I don't see many people addressing is how the legends games can be used as their story based mythical Pokémon distribution. Pokémon like Darkrai and Shaymen were schoolyard legends only achievable through action replay until legends (and eventually BDSP events) and for years they were some of the few Pokémon I had been unable to collect. Legends Z-A have the opportunity to release research tasks to get Pokémon like Volcanion Hoopa and Diance which all are difficult to collect without occasional events on Pokémon go or hacking, and I have a great deal of hope that that will change with Legends Z-A.
I don’t think legends ZA is gonna be a remake, more just revisiting kalos since legends is such a different format than the mainline games
the legends games are spin offs yet for some reason everyone is considering them to be remakes?
@@yvesthursday yea its weird
@@yvesthursdayright?! it's so weird and even dumb
@@yvesthursday Legends Arceus is a mainline and also reimagines the story of Diamond and Pearl (the narrative structure is similar), so it is a different kind of remake.
@@iviyohane it is a spin off. A spin-off game is a video game that takes gameplay mechanics, characters, or story elements from an existing series and takes them in a different direction.
“Remakes innovating on the old games with new features and sometimes story edits is bad because it makes the lore confusing” has got to be one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard bro :/
I just want a modern remake of gen 2 as it was my favorite. There was nothing better than playing through the game beating the Johnto league and finding out you can go to Kanto and defeat all those gym leaders as well.
Scrapping the fun features and attractive designs is a problem with the remakes.
They added new fun features
Bdsp is misunderstood it may not have had platinum content but it did add it’s own new stuff like expanded underground, updated qol, modern type chart, modern movepool, ramanas park etc and it’s got wholesome vibes
Also Ilca is more experienced now
It was loved by the mainstream casual audience
The more hardcore fans may not have liked it but they weren’t the target audience
The game was designed to be an approachable game for beginner players so they had to make it look as cute and as welcoming as possible hence the chibi appearance
Bdsp added more new content than platinum tho
It’s got the up to date type chart as well as the move pools
It completely overhauled the underground
It gave us the hardest elite four and champion out of any pokemon game
We got ramanas park
It’s got clothing customization as well
It removed the hassle of HMs
It’s way faster not slow anymore
@@madnessarcade7447 Hardest Elite Four and Pokemon Champion.
Volo: WHAT?! PATHETIC!
@@megaman37456 Volo isn't even hard.
@@madnessarcade7447 | I haven't done the contests yet but what little I saw of them was enough to turn me off in comparison to what they were like in gens 3 and 4.
The updated chart/movepools would've been nonsensical to leave out.
"Overhauling the Underground" includes butchering secret bases. Instead of fun decorations, you got ... statues. Statues that impacted types' encounter rates in the Underground.
Hardest E4 and Champion? If I'm bored enough to play through an easy Pokemon game I might plow through SP's gyms and see if the E4 actually becomes difficult. The closest it's come so far is Maylene being able to set up a Metal Claw KO against my Flamethrower-wielding Clefable.
Whoop dee doo, Ramanas Park lets us catch legendaries from ... gens one through three. Swish's DLC covers all of the past generations and the ability to shiny hunt those legendaries even drew in people who had played through SV and its DLC, who were stung by the legendaries in SV all being shiny-locked.
_Limited_ clothing customization, perhaps the fewest options out of any main-series Pokemon game that gives you the option at all.
Oh whoop dee doo, I can use all six Mons at full power. All while they're already gaining far more EXP than they should thanks to a forced EXP-ALL being in place like with Swish, even when I'm running from wilds I don't intend to catch. I have to skip dex completion and trainers to *NOT* grind.
Slower EXP gain at least let more experienced players use status-attribute moves to even the playing field. Here, though, SP saw me take a Monferno to Roark, and whatever level disadvantage I _did_ have was so insignificant that I could just figuratively autopilot.
If I had known SP would be this boring and pathetic I would've skipped it like I did with Let's GO and should've with Omega Ruby.
Honestly if they release the game again I wouldn’t even need remake
2025 - Legends: ZA (X/Y)
GEN 10
2026 - Main Series: Gen 10 (Greece)
2027 - Remake Game (Crystal)
2028 - Main Series DLC
2029 - Legends: (Black/White)
GEN 11
2030 - Main Series: Gen 11 (Australia)
2031 - Remake Game (Emerald)
2032 - Main Series DLC
2033 - Legends: (Sun/Moon)
GEN 12
2034 - Main Series: Gen 12 (Scandinavia)
2036- Remake Game (Platinum)
2037 - Main Series DLC
2038 - Legends: (Sword/Shield)
Each Gen has 4 Year Life Cycle. 4 Year Production of Each Game. Start with Main Line Game then each year after adds to it. Main Series, then add Pokemon not in National Dex from an older Gen through classic remake, then add just a straight forward DLC, then top it off with Legends regional variants. Essentially 3 years of Main Series DLC through different mediums (Remake, DLC Story, Legends)
Toss In Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, Ranger, Stadium, Snap, etc. in between these games.
I don’t think legends arceus is considered “remake” that’s why they can do this and not break any trends!
I firmly believe we should slow down with new regions now and we should be going to older ones with new stories and characters
Bro you got me so hyped for Pokemon and full of hope thanks man keep up the videos bro
Always wanted a Legends Kyurem game cause I feel like the lore behind the original dragon still hasn't been answered at all, like we only know about the separation but not what it looked like or where it came from and such
The copium to say that there was a reason for BDSP to stay faithful other than money lmao
It was a result of both a shortage of (very) needed development time and Game Freak forbidding any kind of actual improvement.
They didn't even take the bare minimun stuff that could've been moved cleanly from platinum to BDSP like... actual hideout designs instead of reused assets.
@@saxor96 Exactly. It was damage caused by self-inflicted deadlines, knowing that the bare minimum will do fine.
@@TechnoTrainer Bdsp is misunderstood it may not have had platinum content but it did add it’s own new stuff like expanded underground, updated qol, modern type chart, modern movepool, ramanas park etc and it’s got wholesome vibes
Also Ilca is more experienced now
It was loved by the mainstream casual audience
The more hardcore fans may not have liked it but they weren’t the target audience
The game was designed to be an approachable game for beginner players so they had to make it look as cute and as welcoming as possible hence the chibi appearance
Bdsp added more new content than platinum tho
It’s got the up to date type chart as well as the move pools
It completely overhauled the underground
It gave us the hardest elite four and champion out of any pokemon game
We got ramanas park
It’s got clothing customization as well
It removed the hassle of HMs
It’s way faster not slow anymore
@@saxor96for the record bdsp added more new features than platinum did simply put
Bdsp is misunderstood it may not have had platinum content but it did add it’s own new stuff like expanded underground, updated qol, modern type chart, modern movepool, ramanas park etc and it’s got wholesome vibes
Also Ilca is more experienced now
It was loved by the mainstream casual audience
The more hardcore fans may not have liked it but they weren’t the target audience
The game was designed to be an approachable game for beginner players so they had to make it look as cute and as welcoming as possible hence the chibi appearance
Bdsp added more new content than platinum tho
It’s got the up to date type chart as well as the move pools
It completely overhauled the underground
It gave us the hardest elite four and champion out of any pokemon game
We got ramanas park
It’s got clothing customization as well
It removed the hassle of HMs
It’s way faster not slow anymore
@@madnessarcade7447 Some of those features are quick to program, and the speed was the *bare minimum* they could have done.
And none of that excuses them outright ignoring platinum stuff that doesn't conflict with the main story in the slightest.
Why choose a plain looking room instead of the exact same room, but with unique assets and textures so it's unique and nice to look at and shows it's part of the Team Galactic storyline?
Why choose the objectively bad pokedex lineup instead of the Platinum one, which includes *all* new Shinnoh Pokémon instead of them being stupidly walled behind the post-game?
I will say that Gen I&II were the only generations that I think explicitly needed remakes. But Gen III, IV, and V still look beautiful to this day, and are a blast to go back to.
I do agree that Gen 6 is the least complete at this point, and best suited for new content.
If you wanna be technical the multiverse lore of pokemon had been in the series since gen 1 for example the two versions being alternate realities
Their approach was just more subtle about it
colored versions weren't alternate realities, what a dumb cope. they are the same game twice because of sales which is fine. what isn't fine is cohesive pokemon lore is ruined until they decide to decanonise multiverse. if they keep tiptoeing around the problem forever and don't actually decide anything, it only proves the point that cohesive pokemon lore is ruined.
@@nirgunawishyou’re getting worked up over a game made for children. If you can read the lore is no where near as complicated as you’re making it.
That's only a technical byproduct of the game's being remade. It's true, but it's not likely they were thinking about it like that. Which is why I think GameFreak is only really acknowledging things related to Mega evolution as a separate timeline. You could probably include the anime as a timeline as well since it's still an ongoing series, that has affected the games from time to time lol
I think what the video helps point out is that GameFreak cares about its world building but won't let that get in the way of a feature they want to try. from a 'lore' perspective the Let's go games allowed them to show how different that world is. The game is based more on yellow because they're making a casual version of red and blue, which they already remade.
The original timeline is the Gen 3 versions because this and Gen 4 is when they started caring about continuity, like it was said in the video, they didn't expect Pokémon to last outside of the original Gameboy systems.
I'm all for a change of pace so long as there's still ways to experience the original versions of these games in a way that doesn't cost a kidney or two😅
Not going to lie, I would love to see the let’s go franchise go into all the third games from a Gen like Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, etc., Legends should continue to explore the mythical Pokemon and there should also be remakes of the gens like BW3, Z, Gen7 (Eclipse). Will make a ton of money with me at least.
Holy crap, thank you for making this make sense. Just realized that 6th gen was the most unfinished and thus this isn’t completely an unreasonable move. I want AZ’s Floette!
I would like to point out that the legends games arent remakes of their corresponding games. You could have easily had BDSP without legends arceus.
They have to remake Gen 5 especially for the younger generations. Also last I checkrd Z-A is a Legends game so technically doing a Legends before a remake isnt bad. There was many Unova references in Gen 9 so not having Gen 5 Remakes would make no sense and would upset a lot of people including me.
Agreed. gen 5 is hands down tue best generation in my opinion. The story of both Black and White and Black and White 2 are so good. And the music is awesome, specially, the battle themes
There have been tons of Gen 5 references since Gen 7.
Honestly I glad they finally acknowledge gen6 with a legends remake
Bruh legends kyurem would be dope. Imagine the final boss is the original form with all 3 combined
This was an interesting pov in terms of making a more faithful remake so as not to break to current lore alongside a Legends game which can further enhance that gens lore. I'm glad this video showed up on my feed 😊
Pokemon X and Y actually deserve remakes. They are iconic pokemon games that changed pokemon forever. They added another type, added mega evolution, and it became a best seller. I love Pokemon X and Y.
Definitely a perspective about the remakes I hadn't considered. Well articulated video
Man, I am so happy about the direction pokemon is going in, TO A BRIGHTER FUTURE
I haven't finished the video, I'm at 11:04 yet I gotta say you're the ONLY one I've ever seen not throwing 💩 at BDSP and I'm here for it.
😂😂 I'm glad. It's not my favourite remake but it's fine alongside PLA and I'm glad it exists, even if it could have been done better. I get the criticisms totally though
Bdsp is the best remake
Believe it or not
@@o1sytI'm not very sure about that claim, not because I'm against it but literally haha I don't know enough to make an educated choice, I prefer to be among the ones that calmly admit they don't know instead of being among the dummies who don't really know yet they answer with baseless half made up knowledge. Is the next Pokémon game (I'm extremely excited for it!) Z-A considered a remake? I question that too, but to be fair here, I would say that any Pokémon remake is a good thing for any true fan out here hehe. Even ROM hacks.
you know what desperately needs a remake?
my GOAT pokemon conquest
Personally, I hope this means remakes are done. BDSP basically destroyed my faith in remakes, and I consider them the worst remakes for the same reasons you praised them. Pokemon remakes are different from other game remakes - they bring older generations up to the modern standard, in terms of mechanics, graphics, and lore, and BDSP just didn't do that. No Pokemon past Sinnoh were available, the graphics didn't match SWSH at all, and the only mechanics brought over was the addition of the Fairy-type. Unlimited TMs were scrapped, TRs made no showing, Daimax and Kyōdaimax weren't in the game at all, and nothing referenced the third version Platinum in the main story. And this isn't to get into the horrifying large day one patch which had such things as the music, the opening screen, AND THE POST GAME. When this game is as old as DPPt were when BDSP was made, DPPt will be objectively the better titles because the Switch won't have support if anyone gets the game for the first time.
5:00 based on things like the link cable, EVERY copy of EVERY game is a different universe
B/W are hard to remake, so much content, so good of a lore feels like we don't even need it
I think it's the sequels that make it hard to remake.
Also B2W2 mean we have two parts of a story.
Gen 4 hands down the worst remakes ever. :l
Bdsp is misunderstood it may not have had platinum content but it did add it’s own new stuff like expanded underground, updated qol, modern type chart, modern movepool, ramanas park etc and it’s got wholesome vibes
Also Ilca is more experienced now
It was loved by the mainstream casual audience
The more hardcore fans may not have liked it but they weren’t the target audience
The game was designed to be an approachable game for beginner players so they had to make it look as cute and as welcoming as possible hence the chibi appearance
Bdsp added more new content than platinum tho
It’s got the up to date type chart as well as the move pools
It completely overhauled the underground
It gave us the hardest elite four and champion out of any pokemon game
We got ramanas park
It’s got clothing customization as well
It removed the hassle of HMs
It’s way faster not slow anymore
@@madnessarcade7447no
BDSP and PLA combined or just BDSP?
@@galariangold BDSP I'll never forgive them for what they've done to our awaited remakes. >:(
@@KouzieBaby I kind of agree but when you factor in the fact we got PLA as well, then there's argument that they were the best remakes!
Give me a Legends: Mew/Two, where you follow the story lines of Mew and a human counterpart while simultaneously following a Team Rocket Grunt and the creation of Mewtwo (maybe TR Grunt and ancestor are connected?). I’d love to see Gen 1 do something with Mew since it hasn’t really been touched upon, other than as a random dlc. Plus, seeing things from a Team Rocket perspective witness Giovanni go absolutely bonkers over the creation of Mewtwo would be a compelling creative spin!
Gen 1 has been remade, twice. Can we please give some other regions love before we go back to Kanto, please?
If they are stopping classic remakes they should just release the DS games on the switch e store PLEAAAAASE
I got this video randomly from the algorythm and I found it so interesting listening to you ^^ Really well made video and it helped me a lot that you used subtitles :3 Keep up the great work !
Would you say that we can expect the new Pokemon Legends game being released on the new console or will it release for switch? :)
Thanks for the kind words! I think the new Switch will be backwards compatible and technically still a Switch so I think it will come out on both but look better on the newer model :)
This is amazing. I grew up with Kalos/Gen 6 and it's stil my favourite gen to this day. That being said Legends Arceus is by far myfavourite Pokémon game. So to see that Kalos is getting a Legends game, is absolutely the best news I've heard in a while. I'm sure it might not be AS good as Legends Arceus but I sure hope it's nearly as good.
I just went back and played X and Y and it was such a mess of a game. The story is all over the place, there are 3 mega evolution battles in the main game despite it being the main gimmick, and the leveling/gym spacing is AWFUL
Hopefully they fix the game but seeing how Arceus had such a boring story I doubt it will be good. They dont take risks or put the extra effort they should
Yeah they made X and Y so easy. Probably to appeal to children. But considering it was the big switch to 3D you would think they would of made them the best they could
I think the reason we don't get gen 5 yet is cause the can't "just" remake black and white without also remaking black2 and white2 as otherwise the story wouldn't be complete
I still rather have remakes that are made with the idea of making the same game but up to the current Gen's standards. The fact that visually ORAS is just a way better looking game than what BDSP were is really a huge letdown. And even in that chibi style they should have done a lot more for the environments and background details. Like you said there should have also been a lot more content added especially since how scaled back this remake is compared to past remakes. BDSP being given to another company to do the legwork with GF's supervision mixed with what we got really does make BDSP feel like a "budget" Remake. This comes from someone who loves Legends Arceous and is glad we got it but hopefully now future legend games will be like Z-A and not need a remake to pair it with.
When they remake gen 2, i hope that instead of 2 games, one for lugia and one for ho-oh, that they make 3 games, one for each of the legendary dogs making the story around their origins in the burned tower. Tidal crystal, scorched shadow, and charged earth. They could even give the 3 dogs new forms with a duel typing (could be primal, mega or somthing new) suicune could be water (tidal) and fairy (crystal), entei could be fire (scorched) and dark (shadow) and raikou could be electric (charged) and ground (earth)
We're way past the need of "remakes", imo.
This new style of revisiting old generations by telling a new story in a completely different game is superior than remaking games that, at this point, don't need it.
your bit about legends expanding barely talked about pokemons opened my eyes on why we're getting legends z-a (before kyurem, for example), bc zygarde was basically an afterthought in xy; it got extra stuff in sun/moon but that's not where the fella is from, and isn't giving a real role to zygarde either; he has no role given, and he's the only one in a box legendary trio to have that problem (giratina had platinum, kyurem had b2w2, necrozma had ultra s/m); so now he's finally getting some damn lore relevancy thru the upcoming game
I completely agree, despite the mixed reception to BDSP gen 4 has gotten the best treatment for revisiting an older generation yet, and they should definitely continue that trend. Hopefully next year along with legends ZA we get a crystal remake with new mechanics. But my first game was black 2 so I’m still holding out hope that in the next few years we get a faithful gen 5 remake, potentially both games in one
I disagree, I could see an argument for BDSP being their most faithful remake yet, but the most meaningful remake so far has been either FRLG or HGSS, they both overhauled their respective past gen games in much more meaningful ways, and you could tell they put heart and soul into making those remakes. BDSP is just a soulless cash grab that changed nothing for the better and subtracted from how good the original gen 4 games were.
You already got Crystal in HGSS
Being faithful and being a blatant copy of a past game are two different things. A remake can be faithful and have the possibility of enhancing the experience of a past game at the same time granting it a better sense of quality, or else it's just a copy with better graphics (which is the case for BDSP).
One mustn't have played the og games or must be brainwashed to think that BDSP were the best remakes ever done, I'm sure you never played HGSS, FRLG or even any of the Let's Go (which imo are not so great as well), or else you wouldn't say something so biased
@@thesleepylippi every other remake is better, but BDSP is still good imo. They should’ve added more from platinum, spent more time with level design with diagonal movement, and worked out all the other kinks before publishing. But the game we did get is the easiest and best way to play the gen 4 games today, and they did add new content just not as much as they could’ve.
I don’t personably refer to the Legends titles as remakes. They aren’t. They’re new games set in locations we know. I can see the Legends games *interacting* with the remakes in some way, but I don’t think they should be *called* remakes. It’s why I don’t understand why people lost their minds when they “skipped” generation 5.
I’m almost positive we’ll get the gen 5 remakes next, in generation 10. There’s been a pattern for every remake, save for the very first ones.
Gen 2 - remakes in 4
Gen 3 - remakes in 6
Gen 4 - remakes in 8
_Gen 5 - remakes in 10_
They didn’t “skip” or “forget” anything. It’s just not the right generation for it. And what better way to ring in a new console than with a remake of a game loved by so many?
I feel like another partial reason we got Z-A before Gen 5 remakes is that gamefreak knows those games are their highest quality games, so Gen 5 is on the back burner to take things slow and make sure it doesnt turn out a disaster. But what do I know
FYI, if you paid attention to what the villans said and did in Gen 6 it confirmed that there are 2 time lines. One where the giant ray was activated and one where it wasn't. The Ray created megas.
Massive L take. BDSP was a failure even at being faithful. It was a downgrade all around. And Legends Arceus isn't a Gen 4 remake.
buddy's it's pokemon, i don't think most people care about the lore, why would it affect sales that bad, the only reason gen 4 remakes did so well because it was on the switch and there is over a 100 million people so no wonder pokemon has been selling like hotcakes and i don't think alot like it man it's clearly rushed and was insanely bad at launch and better now but platinum is still a better choice
Please dont ever say bdsp is "modern graphics" lol they could have easily made bdsp faithful with swsh graphics. Bw will get remakes in gen 10 maybe sequels.
You mean the swsh graphics that everyone made fun of and said they don’t wanna see games that look like that ever again and how they wished Pokémon went back to its old style?
Careful what you wish for I guess
@@madnessarcade7447 those guys are all idiots 😂 I never said that I always liked swsh graphics. Most people didn’t really hate on the graphics there was that small loud group that you’re talking about but the vast majority like 95% loved swsh graphics. Most people hated on the dex cut. However with bdsp here there’s fanboys that defend the giant step backwards in graphics saying “it’s cherbi art style” when in reality that’s what the old games looked like second they look horrible lol.
@@psychopat4402 SwSh had horrid graphics, and the shading was fucking awful. BDSP should've had the Switch equivalent of ORAS Graphics, nice and smooth, less pixelation, but still KIND OF kept the Chibi art style rather than fully committing to it.
@@megaman37456 how can you sit and say swsh had horrible graphics? LMFAO “bdsp should’ve had the switch equivalent of Oras graphics” ….uhhhhh swsh basically did bud?? “The shading was awful” are you seriously focusing on something so small? 😂
BDSP did have modern graphics...
I think they should tie in all the worlds to one big game. No need for new generations if they could finally have one huge world with a full pokedex for once. I know they wont though..
Obviously gen 5 remakes are coming gen 10 smh
Very late to the party but I see what you’re saying. Perhaps even the events of Kalos tie into the Events of Unova which is where Legends Z-A also composes these origins. (The kings garden had Reshiram and Zekrom hedges) so perhaps due to the secret weapon something may have changed the course of history and we as the player get to decide how it happened. And maybe the remakes are deliberately delayed to come for a switch 2 brand deal as well which is why it’s not announced
I fully agree with this video and now Legends is a way for GameFreak to not trap themselves in a pattern with the series. Going back and revisiting older regions in a different way with the Legends games will be a way for the series to keep itself from stagnating while giving us something different between main line generations.
If you mean no pattern in the order of regions visited by Legends games, yeah. I'd agree. They could pick any region in any order for their Legends releases; and it wouldn't need to coincide with the standard remakes' release order.
If you mean pattern in regards to release timings of various games however, there absolutely is a pattern.
Generations are being released in 3 year windows, in November of those years. (2016/2019/2022/2025/etc.)
Legends games are being released earlier in the same year as a new Gen (2022/2025/etc.)
The year following a new Gen sees their expansions/DLC. (2017/2020/2023/2026/etc.)
Remakes have always released only when there's a new console, and only then after the first Gen on said console.
(FRLG after Gen 3 on GBA / HGSS after Gen 4 on DS / ORAS after gen 6 on 3DS / BDSP after Gen 8 on Switch / and likely Remake 5 after Gen 10 on Switch 2)
Meaning Remake 6 might not be until whatever console is after Switch 2.
We don't know if Let's Go was a one off, or if there will for sure be more like it, but if they make more it's likely that they could have them in place of standard remakes in years where there is no new console. OR those years may be blank, as they were for 2024.
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2016 = Gen 7
2017 = Gen 7 expansion
NEW CONSOLE
2018 = Kanto spin-off (Let's Go)
2019 = Gen 8
2020 = Gen 8 DLC year
2021 = Remake 4
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Early 2022 = 1st Legends game
Late 2022 = Gen 9
2023 = Gen 9 DLC year
2024 = (nothing / or not yet announced)
NEW CONSOLE
Early 2025 = 2nd Legends game
Late 2025 = Gen 10
2026 = Gen 10 DLC year
2027 = Remake 5
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Early 2028 = 3rd Legends game
Late 2028 = Gen 11
2029 = Gen 11 DLC year
2030 = Johto Spin-off (similar to Let's Go) (might not even be Johto)
Early 2031 = 4th Legends game
Late 2031 = Gen 12
2032 = Gen 12 DLC year
NEW CONSOLE (give or take a couple years, which may push remake 6 forward or back a cycle)
2033 = Hoenn Spin-off (might not even be Hoenn)
Early 2034 = 5th Legends game
Late 2034 = Gen 13
2035 = Gen 13 DLC year
2036 = Remake 6
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The timeline didn't get messed up, it was just split into different timelines which I honestly adore. And I love that we get remakes so that we can explore the different regions in a new way, I didn't grow up with the gameboy games so it's nice to get a chance to explore regions like kalos, hoenn etc on newer consoles with updates graphics and gimmicks etc. And I hope nintendo and gamefreak doesn't feel like they have to limit themselves to what they do with the timeline or what-not, I hope they continue to make cool remakes that add more to the original game the remake is based on.
Also,every game after gen 6 has been in the mega timeline,even if they arent in the games, scarlett and violet straight up mentions mega salamence
Even masters and unite
Masters has mega evolution,so does unite
Let's Go isn't in the Mega Timeline though...
@@kawafernandes7025 ...
@@kawafernandes7025 reflect on what you just said, maybe you'll realise how stupid it is
@@kannan07 ?
*Let's Go contradics the Mega Timeline:*
*1.* Red isn't the protagonist (instead, it's Chase/Elaine), Blue isn't the rival... he didn't become the Kanto Region champion.
*2.* Actually, Red and Blue ARE there... but they ALREADY completed their journey... btw, the pokedex wasn't invented, and none of them could've stopped Team Rocket (it was the protagonist of the game who did it)
*3.* If Red DIDN'T beat Giovanni, why would him remember it in USUM?
*4.* If Red (and Blue, at some point) wasn't the champion, how come it was mentinoned in SM?
*5.* Concept Art of LGPE reveal the characyter *Mina* is 13-15 years old, while in SM/USUM she is *at least,* not older than 19 years old (as she mentions, trial captains retire when they reach 20 years of age), which may not sound like a problem... until you realise it means ONLY 4-6 years have passed between these games... Good luck trying to fit ALL the games in the Mega Timeline in this short timespan...
*6.* If only 4-6 years have passed, how would the timeline look?
LGPE/ORAS -3y-> MEGA-JOHTO/BDSP -(11-12y 💀)-> MEGA-BW -2y-> MEGA-B2W2/XY -2y-> SM
The timeline needs about 20 YEARS to work 💀💀💀
*IF* we disconsider the 11-12 year old gap between JOHTO/BDSP and UNOVA (that happens due to 1. that Rocket Grunt that, AFTER the Johto events, gets married and has a SON, about the age of becoming a trainer himself at the time of BW, 2. some pokedex entries we'll get to later), because *"bW dIdN't hApPeN iN tHe mEgA tImElInE, oNlY iN tHe nON-mEga, sO nOtHiNg tHaT hApPeNs tHeRe iS cOnFirMeD iN tHe mEgA, aLtHoUgH iT iS sAid ThEsE uNiVeRsEs aRe sImiLaR aMoNg tHeMsElVeS"!!!,* then we MAY have:
LGPE/ORAS -3y> JOHTO/SINNOH/UNOVA (Contradicting official info that says BW happens AFTER GS/DP)-2y> UNOVA/XY -2y-> SM/USUM
It fits 7 years exactly (it STILL can't fit in the 4-6 years range)... but I needed to create a HUGE stretch to fit it like this (even contradicting official info), shortening the timeline from about 20 years to just 7.
*7.* Porygon dex entries from SM/USUM state it was created "roughly 20 years ago", and some official media, specifically the book "Pokedex (1996)", state it was created in 1995 (and the Pokedex research is 100% completed in 1996), pretty much confirming the whole timeline to be in a 19-20 years old range (even basically confirming my first timeline, minus LGPE).
*8.* Did I mention Red has "96" written in his shirt? (Like, honestly, doesn't that ring a bell? That he *MAY* have completed his journey/became the champion in 1996, establishing a link with my previous point?) Btw, in the (now-defunct) official Sun and Moon website, it is said that "The rising popularity of Pikachu-styled merchandise around 20 years ago is the reason that Mimikyu makes itself look like Pikachu." A popular theory connects the dots and says that Red, winning the League with a (unevolved) Pikachu, made it become a celebrity, and, with that, ended up creating some in-lore Pikachu merchandise boom...
*9.* Pokemon Origins fits the role much better.
@@kawafernandes7025 oh that's what you meant
In that case,you're semi correct,it's still the mega timeline,it's just that lets go isn't canon
I think if we have a final let's go game representing Johto then they can reference that originally the pokemon series was going to end with gold, silver and crystal and maybe have silver be there as a mentor for the characters, gold being somewhere else in another region or something, maybe Kris is still trying to complete the Pokedex, and maybe trip(or whatever he's called I don't know) could be a researcher, maybe the male let's go protagonist could be on mt silver and the female one could be in cerulean cave, and maybe red could again be similar to how he was in the original let's go games and blue is still the Champion and green is doing green stuff(side note: if this does happen than please have cinnabar island be nonexistent and have that random kid's house be destroyed so they could make the magnet train station and have lavender tower be a radio station and maybe even have viridian forest be a field now liek in gold, silver and crystal)
I can’t wait until Black and White get remakes! They’re the absolute best gen hands down.
Give me the remakes! I’m thinking… JetBlack and SnowWhite? Maybe a Legends Kyurem? Who knows
I say legend kyurem because maybe finally they let us see what the true dragon is that suppose to be complete kyurem
They completely ruined the Gen 4 remakes, why would you want that done to Gen 5?
@@eduardog3000 gen 5 was perfect, you can’t ruin perfection. If the gen 5 remakes do suck then we’ll always have the majesty of BW and B2W2
Again I want to say it for anybody just in case they forgot remakes are once per console generation and they usually happen when a new generation is going to launch to
they dont change the format
they added it with more games.
besides of gen 1 remake in gen 2 and gen 2 remakes in gen 4 was there always a 2 year gap and 2 gens between and 2 gens and 1 remake on every Consol
DS: gen 4, gen 2 remake, gen 5
3DS: gen 6, gen 3 remake, gen 7
Switch: gen 8, gen 4 remake, gen 9
so its normaly that on the switch 2 comes the gen 10 first, then the gen 5 remakes and then the gen 11 and so on.
Legends games and other spinoffs dont count really in this and can come every time GF or Nintendo wants it.
dont watch the Legends game as a remake.
Its not.
This are betas for a better Open world games until GF knows how to make the best open world game for the main games.
so glad so you said this! i couldn’t understand why everyone is treating legends Z-A as a remake when all it is , is a spin off game. it’s weird everyone is acting like gamefreak/pokémon just skipped over gen 5 when that isn’t the case at all (also gen 4 remakes came out like 3 years ago so why would we get gen 5 remakes this soon)
The let's go games and Legends Arceus ARE mainline pokemon games btw. So switch has
Gen 7: Gen 1 remake (Lets Go games), and Gen 8: Gen 4 remakes (BDSP) so yes the format did change at least once. :).
@@Goro_Maj1ma i know, but if you look on them you can count them more as something like Pokemon rangers, PMD and else. and nothing like RBGY, GSC, RSE, DPP and else.
but yes, they are main games. but do they look like mainlines?
@@Goro_Maj1ma | I classify Let's GO and Legends Arceus as Unconventionals: Main-line games that don't play like main-line games.
Colosseum (GCN) might've been the first Unconventional since it didn't have wilds, but Let's GO and Legends Arceus are basically what molded the categroy.
Pokemon has been following a pattern for years now and I think they will continue to do it this way.
Gen2 Remakes in Gen 4
Gen3 Remakes in Gen 6
Gen4 Remakes in Gen 8
Gen5 Remakes in Gen 10
Gen1 is the odd one out but with the rest following a pattern, I think this is what they'll keep doing. They'll release a new region, an enhanced version or DLC, and then a remake. Though in generations like 7 and 9, they'll release something new or different. This is what I believe at least. I've always expected Gen5 remakes in Gen10 and will expect Gen6 remakes in Gen12 if we ever get that far. (Hopefully we do lol)
Y'all are so unobservant and impatient, it hurts to watch.
For the past 14 YEARS, we've had the remakes come every EVEN NUMBERED GENERATION. THE GEN 5 REMAKES WILL BE GEN 10 GAMES.
They aren't "skipping" a generation. Because so far as we know, legends games do not count as remakes, and are NOT replacing remakes.
Sorry.. why do you think a pattern of even numbers is going to have any sort of priority over what game actually feels right for GF to make, and what will be the best business decision? Let's Go was a remake that came during gen 7 and FRLG came out during gen 3 so there is no truth to what you're saying beyond a convenient cherry picked coincidental pattern within a 14 year window that ignores Let's Go and that you are choosing to apply as context to future decisions. Do you think if gen 2 or 5 games felt right for GF to make now, they would have a big business meeting and decide not to go ahead with them because they don't line up with a pattern of even gen numbers? My word. They absolutely, unequivocally have skipped a generation, because the last Legends game directly correlated to faithful remakes and came out alongside them. These were based on the region that chronologically was due remakes, whereas Legends Z-A has not followed that pattern. The irony of calling others unobservant!
@@galariangold Holy crap, I did expect this much salt in response to my comment. Sorry if I ruined your day, which is the only assumption I can make after a comment like this, but I don't appreciate seeing misinformation. Either way, this comment is not a good look, and its dropping the level of respect I had for you.
Just admit you made mistakes. Either that, or your only motivation was following the trend of overanalyzing and milking the existence of a reveal trailer that didn't even show a speck of gameplay.
Analyzing your comment- I'm gonna go ahead and ignore the near instantaneous response of silly billionaire bootlicking that is your commentary on "big business meetings" and "the best business decisions", and instead, I'm gonna look at you using the Let's Go games as a defense. Let's go Pikachu and Eevee are are irrelevant, due to them being an outlier for multiple reasons. Number 1: They didn't even let you battle wild pokémon, they added a broken system of stat raising candy that didn't stick around, and they added a weird real time catching system similar to GO. This makes people debate whether its even a mainline game. (And with the weirdly meta changes made to the story, and the piss poor difficulty levels compared to the originals, a lot of people don't want to see it as a mainline game either way)
Number 2: they weren't made for the purpose of being a remake, they were only made as a failed attempt of drawing attention to Pokemon GO and restoring it to its former worldwide glory.
Number 3, the biggest reason: They were entirely unnecessary, due to there already being a superior remake, Fire Red and Leaf Green.
Let's Go pikachu and eevee are clear outliers of any remake release schedule/structure, and thus, irrelevant parts of the argument.
Now to analyze somehow even MORE absurd part of your comment: *"They absolutely, unequivocally have skipped a Generation, because the last legends game directly correlated to faithful remakes and came out alongside them."* What do you mean, the last legends game? Unless you're living in the future, at this time of this comment, there has only been one legends game.
And that's the problem. You are trying to say there's a pattern to be seen in the release of legends arceus, ONE GAME, being alongside remakes of the same generation. A pattern requires for there to be MORE THAN ONE THING in that pattern for it to be CONSIDERED a pattern in the first place. You know what also happened with legends arceus? It was revealed on the same day as the remakes of generation four. You know what didn't happen with Legends: ZA? It was not revealed alongside remakes. Which means that so far as we know, aside from the geography, it is probably completely separate from the remakes. Which means that the existence of Legends: ZA currently has no impact on ths release schedule of the remakes.
Because there has currently been only one legends game, and minimal information about the new game, there is no pattern to be observed, and thus, they don't tell us anything about the future of the series. Which means that you're trying to observe a pattern which to our knowledge, does not currently exist. Which is insanely ironic, given the fact that you tried to scold me for observing what is currently a pattern that has been occuring for MANY YEARS.
TL;DR? When you're wrong, don't make a fuss about it. Just. Admit. Your. Mistakes. If you change, and make a video about the inaccuracy of your theory is gonna make for more interesting content than you doubling down.
@@p4rm3s34n yeah I'm just gonna let you cook with this one
@@p4rm3s34nyeah no you're the one who's wrong here. Dude blatantly pointed out your statement of remakes only happening in even numbered generations fOr tHe pAsT 14 years is wrong. Gen 7 Lets Go games prove your comment is utter nonsense and blatantly false. Love how you call them irrelevant to your argue when thats your whole basis. I don't enjoy seeing misinformation after all. :)
TL:DR when you're wrong don't make a fuss about it Just. Admit. Your. Mistakes. If you change, and make another comment about the inaccuracy of your statement is gonna make for more interesting discussions than you doubling down. 😊
@@Goro_Maj1ma gotta love how you don't even know how to use the word blatantly, and ignore the actual details of my argument without providing your own. Do you seriously think I haven't had these arguments before? Gotta love how you people think I just FORGOT about Let's Go and pretend bringing them up is some kind of a "gotcha"
The let’s go games aren’t true remakes. And they aren’t main line. To be a true main line game they’d need to have the same capturing mechanics that the games have always had.
Can you get a source that is not ign or Nintendo power of America ever confirming that gen 2 was the end of Pokemon no one at gmaefreak ever has said this literally get a link or something no just some guy on the internet saying generation 2 was the end a actual interview from anyone at Pokemon company or creature's ink and not someguy saying i read a Nintendo power
IIRC, that was a mistranslation of a Japanese magazine...
DYKG explained it better in their Pokémon Gen 2 video though.
Just Wish After This, We Get A Gen 8 Legends Treatment.
Pokémon Legends: Eternatus 🎮 Needs To Happen. The Focus is On eternatus 🐉💀, The Game Mascot For Pokémon Legends: Eternatus 🎮. Pokémon Legends: Eternatus 🎮 is Set in galar, But galar From The Distant Past, it is Set in The 19th Century, Where The Humans & Pokémon Living in galar Haven’t 100% Coexist Yet. And eternatus 🐉💀 is Causing A Phenomenon Known As dynamax & gigantamax in Which Pokémon Turn Big & Go Rampage. Your Job is To Stop Those Gigantic Pokémons & Stop & Capture eternatus 🐉💀 & Save The Region. And You Can Now Use eternamax eternatus 🐉💀 in This Game 🎮. Just Wishes That This Came True. But There’s Going To Be Gym Leaders Here Too. So This Makes galar The First Region To Have Gym Leaders At The 19th Century, & Most Of The Gym Leaders Are Ancestors Of The Current Gym Leaders in galar. And The Main Antagonist is The Ancestor Of chairman rose, So This is A Trait Shared With The Descendant chairman rose. So chairman rose Turns Bad Runs From His Ancestor.
I wouldve loved a legend Gray taking part in the medieval time when the 2 brothers were co-kings with the OG dragon
Oras didnt really break any lore the way lgpe did
And that's exactly why LGPE is not canon to neither of the timelines
Because the fact is that Red is still the canon protagonist of both mega and non mega timelines,and he's the one who destroyed team rocket
While for oras,the only plot hole oras introduced is why groudon and kyogre cant go primal in non-mega timeline,even tho its their true form and has nothing to do with mega evolution
But that can be explained pretty simply
In the non-mega timeline,their true forms are sealed for good
In the mega timeline,the ultimate weapon turned the orbs that sealed them into orbs that could access their true powers once more
Also there being two timelines isnt a theory,zinnia mentions it in oras
Lgpe is in the mega timeline it’s a prequel to sm and it features mega evolution
@@madnessarcade7447 featuring mega evolutions doesn't make it a prequel,and like I said
It's not
It's still a fact that Red remains the protagonist,Red stopped Giovanni and that still remains a fact
Let's go has no placement in the canon lmfao
Even the mina you battle in let's go,she's very obviously different from the mina in usum,not just by age
And in Pokemon masters,this same Giovanni,after leaving the usum universe to go to a different one, straight up acknowledges that Red beat him
And there's litterally no mention of LGPE
@@kannan07 Wait so do you not play as Red in Let's GO? I'm so confused.
@@megaman37456 no you don't,instead of the goats red and blue,there's some cheap rip off called trace(rival[I think]) and I don't even remember the MC's name,says a lot cuz I know the name of th mc of fricking masters
@@madnessarcade7447 It's not, but Pokemon Origins fits the role better...
All I’m saying is that when gen 5 get remade, it better not just be a 3D VERSION of the OG games. I want an actual remake like ORAS, where the animations and everything look like the animations of the current generation. Gen 5 was the first set of games I played and i have such a sweet spot for them. I also love the battle themes from unlovable!
Remakes up through ORAS were a way to bring back an older generations on modern hardware with the current gen gameplay. The issue was that these were all done in house as labors of love and to add to the current generation and add in ways to catch pokemon that you either couldn't or weren't easily obtained outside that games. Gen 1/2 was stuck in its own bubble so they remade Gen1 with FRLG to help bring back pokemon that couldn't be caught in Gen 3 but were programmed into the game. HGSS was brought about at a time to help bridge the gap during the DS era and was more so a labor of love from the creators than any of the other remakes which was shown through many of the interviews they did. The devs truly loved Gen 2 and it showed. ORAS was the next in the series and takes the prior reasons as well as simply being 'the next game'.
Now throw in Gen 4... which itself was a mess and had a chunk of content that never saw the light of day. This also seemed to be where the devs themselves were getting tired of the constant cycle of new game/remake repeatedly. This is why we got PLA, a new take on the past of Gen 4 which allowed them to do something new, and the remake by ILCA which they put some serious contstraints on because they didn't want it to overshadow and show up their own PLA, and because they may not have had faith that ILCA would do well if they weren't simply doing a faithful remake. The biggest issue with the remakes was honestly that Platinum was ignored because we lost an entire chunk of endgame content from it that was extremely cool to play through originally.
That said, I don't think they've truly 'skipped' Gen 5 because we now have a 3rd type of game. Main series, Remakes, and the Experimental games that PLA falls into. Its not truly a main series, but its not a direct remake of an existing game. Plus like PLA, the upcoming PLZ is also dealing with past history of that generation and may likely try new things/play different like PLA did with its difference in how the catch and battle mechanics were from SwSh.
Its very possible that we might still see an upcoming Remake for BW/BW2. However, it could be another faithful style remake like BDSP were. Alternatively, BW/BW2 were a very odd generation for the series, as while they shared much, they were also directly sequels to one another and not just a 'third edition' of the game. This leaves room for speculation that we could receive very different treatment for that generation and possible see another sequel, an experimental game, or even some weird fusion of the two titles together because of the legendaries involved.
Also, they seriously need to do a Let's Go Johto game. You can cry about not liking them but they were really just and were a way to get people into the game from Pokemon GO as well as great for younger kids, or getting your partner who isn't a gamer but likes pokemon/plays pokemon go to also play with you because of the co-op. Be mad, it was a good game, you're just not the audience for it. :P
Honestly I like Oras because of the mega thing, never really thought of the timeline thing I was just like “oh it’s the same thing but with megas you could perceive both as cannon no problem”
legends aren't remake titles
We literally got BDSP alongside the first Legends game, we cannot use Legends ZA to prove/disprove how the remakes are going to be handled from now on...
COMPLETELY DISAGREE.
😂😂
I would love to have faithful remakes of 1-5 gen rather than new games
Hot take Only fake fans have a favorite generation
True fans favor every generation
Nah, I'm sorry that's some fanboy logic, I like most generations of pokemon but gens 8 and 9 should be spit upon for their evident lack of playtesting, polish, and overall lack of any form of quality control.
Wrong swsh, and scv are good. ❤❤❤❤
Been playing Pokémon every gen since gen 1 on the original Game boy. Always buy both versions of the games. Probably spent thousands upon thousands of hours on all the games.
My favorite gen is gen 3. :).
Hot take.
You're the one sounding like a fake fan here.
@@animeladka1264 SwSh and SV are the worst in the series and poorly made games.
@@megaman37456 wrong
To be completely honest, I'm glad that we now entered the era of revisits, instead of just remakes.
You can't go right with the remake. It's going to upset people either way. ORAS style remake? The games are too different now and lost their "charm". BDSP style remake? The game is too lazy and wasted a lot of potential.
I think that the end of remakes should come to an end with older games being directly ported (or slightly refined) for the modern systems (with a few adjustments for dual screen games). This would be the best outcome for everyone.
NO MORE DEX CUT IN ALL THE FUTURE POKEMON GAMES!
Yes, NO MORE.
Being realistic, do you think adding 1k pokemon in one game is possible?
@@randompersontrying9700 Pokemon Go. YES.
yes more dex cut in all the future pokemon games. Dex cut allows for far more variety of used pokemon, and allows us to have DLC instead of third versions, and god knows we don't want third versions back.
@@RancorSnp NO! It has ransacked the movesets, it has screwed up our teams, and some of their choices to remove MAKE NO SENSE.
Wouldn’t mind a gen 1 and 2 remake where you start off in Kanto but then go to Johto second, would make for a nice twist
My main problem with the latest remakes, aside from the pokedex being limited. The Let's Go games departed too much from series norms, while BDSP didn't change nearly enough to set itself apart from what Diamond and Pearl did. One main benefit isn't even because of the game itself just the hardware it's running on.
FR/LG could've just been Red and Green with the mechanics introduced in Ruby and Sapphire, but it wasn't. We got meaningful post-game content. Heart Gold/Soul Silver added a whole new route. ORAS remixed the story and added a post-game. BDSP... overhauled the underground?
Plus 1 billion points for National Park Theme in the background
The biggest issue I have with BDSP is not it being a true to the original remake, but that it did not include the Platinum content and that the overworld sprites for following pokemon were lifeless. It could have been great if they'd just fixed those two things. All story events and Platinum content and just a little tiny bit more effort in the overworld sprites.
ideally we get games where you can explore the whole pokemon world with your adventure starting in a new region instead of remakes. storage and data compression technology have advanced enough to make this an easy feat.
I like your balanced take of BDSP tied with Legends Arceus. As someone who played both, BDSP did not ruin Gen 4 remakes for me. Ofc, BDSP would've done far better as a faithful remake if it also included Platinum features. Even I wouldn't be mad if Dialga and Palkia were marketed as the legendaries in BDSP but were actually red herrings because Giratina was actually the true center and the climax of the narrative, making Dialga or Palkia as more elusive legendaries and catchable later.
I wholeheartedly agree with you and the Gen 4 remake approach. All the commenters complaining about how BDSP was too faithful have gotten rather tiresome. They weren’t perfect remakes, but BDSP truly services old and new pokemon fans that wanted to try Gen 4 in its natural state; Legends Arceus being that nee “remake” that improves significantly on the source material.
Even though ORAS was changed so much it is still my favourite 3ds Pokémon game
Fun fact:
Despite the Pokémon company,Nintendo and Gamefreak announcing that every single Pokémon remake is not associated with the current Pokémon generation when the remakes are released 99% of the Pokémon community decides to say that there are no Pokémon remakes. For instance, when Pokémon Pokémon firered and leafgreen versions were released 99% of the Pokémon community said that both firered and leafgreen were apart of the 3rd generation of Pokémon games Despite what The Pokémon company,Nintendo and Gamefreak have said and the trend with all Pokémon remakes continues in the Pokémon community calling them non-remakes. That is why, after the colossal fail of both Scarlet and Violet, I left the Pokémon community. I'm just getting sick and tired of remakes not being properly mentioned by 99% of the Pokémon community that I needed to finally say something. I was a part of the 1% that defended what was said by the Pokémon company,Nintendo, and Gamefreak about the remakes.
I'm not sure I understand this comment but bro don't leave the community
I still want the let's go game series to continue
Pokémon had a rule.
You make two games. And a third.
Up till Gen 4.
They made one remake per console generation and starting Gen 5 they made one sequel pair and continue forth.
Gen 6 they considered a pokémon Z but moved to sun and moon along with their sequel/remake
Legends was to add a new gameplay style to pokémon
Give me a black-white remake love that gen personally
You know this is a very great take and well considered. Hats of to you man. I remember being so frustrated and confused during the hype season of gen 4 remakes. I felt very much in the headspace to play a cool Pokémon game again since it had been a while since ORAS. And I remembered those times fondly. So when time came for gen 4 I was hyped. I wanted to experience that start to finish instead of in retrospect.
So when no news came of new additions, new megas or any other cool new gimmick. I felt let down in some way. Later on Arceus did surprise me obviously and I slowly started to realize those games had done what I wanted from gen 4 remakes. But not entirely. And it wasn't the same as ORAS.
But after all this time this explanation makes sense and somehow brings a weird closure to this question I had lol. Not that it's an important one. But a curiosity I had pondered nonetheless.
Man I love this and I'm glad I could somehow help
i don’t know if people agree but i am super excited to have a nintendo switch xy remake and bringing back mega evolution
I’ve been waiting so long for a black/white remake. I just hope they don’t forget about making it. Absolutely horrible they are remaking gen 6 first