Why Pokemon's Newest Type is a Total Failure

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  • @gavanator7
    @gavanator7 7 місяців тому +36122

    You don't use stellar tera type because it sucks. I don't use stellar tera type because I don't have the DLC. We are not the same

    • @lexruptor
      @lexruptor 7 місяців тому +796

      I do use stellar tera type, it does not actually suck. Just stellar tera type metronome, see how insane it is and you'll get me.

    • @alestrius
      @alestrius 7 місяців тому +471

      I honestly thought this was a couple-days-early april fool's joke because I've never seen it brought up and didn't play the DLC.

    • @RockOrso2
      @RockOrso2 7 місяців тому +37

      So you aren't getting it for what reason?

    • @Zer0AsWell
      @Zer0AsWell 7 місяців тому +98

      ​@@lexruptor who, again, is here for competitive advice on the format no one plays?

    • @politoed06
      @politoed06 7 місяців тому +245

      @@lexruptor ah yes metronome the most reliable of moves ever.

  • @myhairhasamindofitsown
    @myhairhasamindofitsown 7 місяців тому +25564

    To be fair, the stellar type is not a new type. It's a gimmick within a gimmick, marketed as a new type to generate hype and expectation.

    • @sb6196
      @sb6196 7 місяців тому +1471

      They didn't call it a new type they called it a new tera type.

    • @BladeSerph
      @BladeSerph 7 місяців тому +659

      Ultimately its them trying to reinvent the Gigantimax hype which is just them copy-pasting Mega evolutions into Dynamax. Where even that goes as far to have some `special` dynamax moves and/or animations tied to them to add to the fluff bait when they either are gonna be wastefully stupid on asset recycling by getting rid of it by the next mainline game or just use it as a `testing grounds` to shove it back in later when they get to a certain remake and call it an alternate reality, just like how ORAS got mega evolutions because it was a different place from R/S to further get away with the whole rainbow rocket gag in US/UM.
      Im very sure plenty of people are just sick and tired of them constantly axing previous mechanics that may of been present for even less then a year for some of them, even having way too many pokemon that had to bank on the gimmick including older pokemon to boost them into relevanacy and constantly force players to abandon previous team comps, where they arent even hiding the fact they will drastically buff/nerf abilities/moves/pokemon each generation like its a MOBA, which further takes away the appeal of childhood favorites.
      At this point, Pokemon is the same as Yugioh in more ways then one, they try to huck in new gimmicks in so often, they get lazier with it that they ignore previous balancing reasons and break the game with the stuff they originally were against adding in. Thought since Pokemon would of likely hard-capped only having one specific gimmick avail to a player at a time if they actually LEFT the older gimmicks in, instead of removing them each version. It would of then result in players figuring out exploits with older gimmicks and newer pokemon that could ruin the game, especially the competitive scene when someone could take a particular pokemon, use a newer gimmick and then it turns them into a unstoppable beast that just sweeps everything.
      At this point, Pokemon just needs to `reboot` into a Classic generation where no more special state gimmicks are added in (basically would be like Gen 1 thru 4 for the most part) and kept vanilla and then have a different sub-generation where that one has all the gimmicks and just have it where the older gimmicks return via post-game completion to let the competitive players have freaking fun, just like how alot of the hand-held console games handled it with stuff like battle frontier and what not.

    • @lycrowkurato
      @lycrowkurato 7 місяців тому +180

      I mean, a one time buff to the move used, it's just a Z-move

    • @octopi3018
      @octopi3018 7 місяців тому +38

      @@lycrowkuratofor more than one move though.

    • @eglol
      @eglol 7 місяців тому +236

      Exactly - Stellar "type" isn't really Pokemon's newest type in the way the title and thumbnail imply, just a random gimmicky thing for the funzies, and it says that it's a "Tera Type" which means that it's only a type found in terastalization.

  • @dblaze23
    @dblaze23 5 місяців тому +4296

    Its such a failure, that i had no idea it existed before this video.

  • @Wolfie0936
    @Wolfie0936 5 місяців тому +461

    I think that Ditto works well for it. The problem with picking a tera type for a ditto is that you don't know what pokemon you are going to become until you switch out the ditto, so your prediction of a type could go to waste due to it either not having a move that matches your offensive tera type or being a better type combo than your tera. Ditto also doesn't have alot of hp so it won't always last as long as you may want. With the stellar type, you don't have to mess up your typing, and you can get in a few really strong hits before fainting. Keep in mind I am not an expert in Pokemon, especially competitively, so if you can prove me wrong, do it.

    • @claudiobacelis678
      @claudiobacelis678 5 місяців тому +49

      i feel like relying on your opponents to do...anything is very bad in competitive

    • @shadowsnake5133
      @shadowsnake5133 4 місяці тому +39

      The problem there is that dittos only ever good when restricted pokemon are on the field, as any other pokemon is usually better brought yourself, and only ever if there's only 1 restricted pokemon allowed. Otherwise, you're giving up 25% of your team for a gimmick any battle, and 1/6th of your team in general, which could be spent on a pokemon you can pivot in to the main team to deal with an actual problem way easier. Dittos a gimmick. And doubling down on that is suicidal.

    • @coreydopson2030
      @coreydopson2030 3 місяці тому +15

      Ditto usually holds choice scarf so it can actually win the speed tie which would make tera stellars whole gimmick of once per move really awful.

    • @simbast9726
      @simbast9726 3 місяці тому +3

      Thats true​@@coreydopson2030

    • @dragongodslayerreal9643
      @dragongodslayerreal9643 Місяць тому +1

      You can use it on Pokemon with the ability contrary

  • @Saivenie
    @Saivenie 7 місяців тому +2572

    Worth noting, Stellar form Terapagos is not a Stellar type; it's still considered a Normal type that is Terastalized into Stellar. Funnily enough, because the type of Tera Starstorm changes, this actually means that it loses the STAB boost and gets slightly weaker, which is why on Showdown you sometimes see Terapagos running moves like Tri Attack alongside or instead of it.

    • @armaggedon390
      @armaggedon390 7 місяців тому +326

      Wow, that's pathetic.

    • @dse763
      @dse763 7 місяців тому +275

      Game Freak being very good at programing design.

    • @frownyclowny6955
      @frownyclowny6955 7 місяців тому +62

      Hey it’s either that or Ivy Cudgel

    • @Saivenie
      @Saivenie 7 місяців тому +99

      @@frownyclowny6955 True, that move is pretty bonk-ers

    • @colossaldonut5190
      @colossaldonut5190 7 місяців тому +94

      Sometimes you get Ivy Cudgel and sometimes you get Tera Starstorm what can you say.

  • @danielcm4237
    @danielcm4237 7 місяців тому +2701

    And to think that Masuda removed the Azure Flute event back in D/P/Pt because he thought it would be too difficult for players to understand it...

    • @Richtofen-gy9cj
      @Richtofen-gy9cj 7 місяців тому +56

      @@TheNamelessOne888 And i thought Rockstar Games was bad

    • @riccardovacca6707
      @riccardovacca6707 7 місяців тому +64

      Like guides didn’t exists smh

    • @Idkpleasejustletmechangeit
      @Idkpleasejustletmechangeit 7 місяців тому +163

      I don't understand how you wouldn't understand it. It's get the thing, go to the top of that mountain and fight God.

    • @happylikehappy
      @happylikehappy 7 місяців тому +11

      But why is it still in the game then but as a "mysterious gift"? Or am I mistaken the Arceus battle with something else?

    • @martinhill9561
      @martinhill9561 7 місяців тому +53

      No your right. It was simply easier and cheaper to keep the item out of the region than to recall all the games, reprogram them, and send them back out. The only legitimate way to get the azure flute is if you had a Japanese version and went to one of the few occurring events that it had in Japan.

  • @drugerrv9717
    @drugerrv9717 7 місяців тому +7515

    The true stellar type was the incineroar we found along the way

    • @domenichughes7792
      @domenichughes7792 7 місяців тому +212

      The incineroar we did nothing to ban along the way

    • @ophiuchus_kin
      @ophiuchus_kin 7 місяців тому +70

      Until we saw he had high speed IV's and Blaze

    • @adraxer1365
      @adraxer1365 7 місяців тому +57

      ​@@domenichughes7792 The Insineroar they Boosted along the way

    • @magicalcapi9148
      @magicalcapi9148 7 місяців тому +20

      _STELLAR FAKE OUT INTENSIFIES_

    • @prismaticpaul
      @prismaticpaul 7 місяців тому +42

      Darkest stellariat: deals damage to the opponent on the other side of the screen irl, ignoring any stat changes

  • @AgentForest
    @AgentForest 2 місяці тому +25

    I think Fairy was one of the best additions to pokemon. It helped provide checks and balances to the previous types that were added (Dark and Steel) which shook up Gen 1's psychic dominance. Fairy gave Steel and Poison some offensive potential, took dragons down a peg, and brought life to some old forgotten pokemon like hidden abilities did. I just think Grass and Ice are struggling right now and we need a new type to give them some potential. This is why so many people suggest Sound type.

    • @bobby69g
      @bobby69g 5 годин тому

      fairy made steel even more OP than it was

  • @ajbeasley2771
    @ajbeasley2771 7 місяців тому +2018

    Stellar isn’t even really a new type it can only be used when in Tera form that’s like saying mega Pokémon are entirely new Pokemon

    • @youtubeuniversity3638
      @youtubeuniversity3638 7 місяців тому +74

      ...Gamefreak probably would say that...

    • @ajbeasley2771
      @ajbeasley2771 7 місяців тому +33

      @@youtubeuniversity3638 that is to true I also hate that you brought that bad juju out into the world

    • @youtubeuniversity3638
      @youtubeuniversity3638 7 місяців тому

      @@ajbeasley2771 Blame Gamefreak man.

    • @ojasvijain8051
      @ojasvijain8051 6 місяців тому +43

      Given many megas have new typings and abilities and the fact megas were taken out while the base form remained
      Yeah they aren't the same

    • @771shadowolf
      @771shadowolf 5 місяців тому +9

      There in the Pokedex. Makes it a new Pokemon to me just can't hold the evolution permanently

  • @footman77
    @footman77 7 місяців тому +195

    It feels like they had a cool idea for stellar type, and then decided they had to nerf it into the ground so it wasn't too good for competitive, but in the process made it absolutely terrible.

  • @Deathnotefan97
    @Deathnotefan97 7 місяців тому +682

    I choose to believe that stellar type was made super effective against terastalized Pokémon because Game Freak saw all the memes about Tera electric Shedinja with air balloon and panicked

    • @jogosengracados1923
      @jogosengracados1923 5 місяців тому +3

      lol

    • @youraveragesub
      @youraveragesub 5 місяців тому +32

      Toxic, will-o-wisp, and confuse ray:

    • @Shawn-mc6yx
      @Shawn-mc6yx 5 місяців тому +4

      We have an entire Pokemon line with the same thing

    • @tylerlee5767
      @tylerlee5767 5 місяців тому +11

      ​@Shawn-mc6yx not necessarily. The tynamo line can still get hot by neutral damage. Shedinja just laughs in everybody's face

    • @salmonellaII
      @salmonellaII 5 місяців тому +11

      except Shedinja isn't even in this generation

  • @samwise1530
    @samwise1530 5 місяців тому +129

    Pokemon Company: "The Stellar tera is great! It boosts all of the Pokemon's moves for a single use! The only way this could be bad is if you would want to use your Pokemon's strongest move more than once. But how could that go wrong?"
    Protect: "Observe"

    • @LudovicoPetroleumScallywagVII
      @LudovicoPetroleumScallywagVII 4 дні тому

      At the same time, inciting your opponent to be overzealous with their protects could lead to outplaying them by using setup moves.

    • @Disatiere
      @Disatiere День тому

      Stellar type is genuinely just a much worse Shadow Type

  • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
    @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 7 місяців тому +3899

    On the Contrary, my Serperior is liking it quite a bit!

    • @Mrempoleon100
      @Mrempoleon100 7 місяців тому +169

      Nice one lol

    • @The_PhantomSnek
      @The_PhantomSnek 7 місяців тому +542

      Serp fans have been eating good from this dlc

    • @RockOrso2
      @RockOrso2 7 місяців тому +113

      Second that since Quagsire raids despise Serperior completely checking it, especially if Logan is in the party to check Yawn and Toxic whenever it uses Safeguard, also don't forget Enamorus & Malamar as fellow Contrarians.

    • @politoed06
      @politoed06 7 місяців тому +170

      idk man even serp i feel prefers a defensive tera like fire or something to let it live a hit and get the +2. Stellar is good for the choice scarf/specs set but in general they are worse than the leftovers/subseed sets.

    • @thksai1684
      @thksai1684 7 місяців тому +110

      ​@@politoed06yeah, this is the realistic take. Not even the contrarians want it

  • @Ice_Trey87
    @Ice_Trey87 7 місяців тому +2117

    It won’t matter in one or two years when gen ten throws terastilization out the window with z moves and dynamaxing.

    • @littlefox_100
      @littlefox_100 7 місяців тому +97

      (And Megas)

    • @SpadeDraco
      @SpadeDraco 7 місяців тому +382

      @@littlefox_100 People don't lump Megas in with other regional gimmicks due to them appearing in 4 games over 2 generations. It was less of a gimmick and more of a proper mechanic that they decided to abandon.

    • @littlefox_100
      @littlefox_100 7 місяців тому +11

      @@SpadeDraco hmmm, oki

    • @willphoenix5464
      @willphoenix5464 7 місяців тому +108

      @@littlefox_100 Adding to this that the newer pokemon legends game will add or has teased Megas so they're bringing it back in some form

    • @littlefox_100
      @littlefox_100 7 місяців тому +44

      @@willphoenix5464 I know! I'm super excited! X was my first pokemon game and megas are the best, not to mention zygarde will finally get it's own game!

  • @smeatar
    @smeatar 7 місяців тому +3675

    This is like the embodiment of everything I dislike about modern Pokémon, they just keep adding these one off, barely realised mechanics that don’t feel connected to the broader game.

    • @jlGenozzV
      @jlGenozzV 7 місяців тому +376

      Yep, at least mega evolutions felt connected to the rest of the mechanics

    • @artur6912
      @artur6912 7 місяців тому +292

      ​@@jlGenozzVNah, megas started this cancer trend of gimmicks. People give it a pass because some megas looked cool, but let's remember it started with them.

    • @Jw87563
      @Jw87563 7 місяців тому +348

      ​@@artur6912yes, but the real problem was when SuMo didn't add any new ones and pushed them to post game "just because".
      Honestly, I wouldn't mind having a new gimmick if they double down and make it a new staple mechanic. Breeding and Doubles were originally gameplay gimmicks themselves, but GF kept those. Why not the same for battle gimmicks? That would help more people actually care about them.

    • @artur6912
      @artur6912 7 місяців тому +67

      @@Jw87563 They didn't put any new ones because it requires relatively way more effort than other gimmicks and they put them in post game to not overshadow Z. It was probably that experience that made GF make all subsequent gimmicks available to all mons, not make special designs (excluding gigantamax) and abandoning them for the next thing in the next game.

    • @Jw87563
      @Jw87563 7 місяців тому +68

      @@artur6912 megas could easily have been made available for all mons anyway by making a "generic" mega stone that gives a flat 20+ stat boost except HP and changes nothing else mechanically. Visually, it could have the Totem aura to show it changed and it would take your mega slot. That, and since GF was inevitably going to get to the point where it's not feasible to include every single mon, they could easily shuffle around what megas are actually available every gen as well. The generic stone would of course be a constant so GF doesn't necessarily need to give a mon a mega, but still let it participate and leave room for a possible true mega in the future. A true mega would be the more drastic and "optimized" form while the generic stone is more of a stat pump to help out mons who are _almost_ good or need that small nudge to be usable.
      That, and it could actually be more helpful than their actual megas. Heck, Mega Chomp was worse than normal chomp because of the speed drop, so the generic stone would have a niche.

  • @kibabissal7033
    @kibabissal7033 3 місяці тому +90

    "Fairy type was a chaos"
    Fairy type balancing the overpowered types such as Dragon, Dark and Fight which not only had the best pokemon by stats, the best moves, but also types that were weak to slightly uncommon things, such like Bug or Flying* (exception: psychic against Fight): 🤡

    • @felidaefatalis
      @felidaefatalis 2 місяці тому +34

      Thank you. It's so weird watching UA-camrs pretend fairy ruined the meta

    • @Dinoman972
      @Dinoman972 2 місяці тому +19

      Maybe Bug wouldn't be so uncommon if it didn't have a whooping 7 types that resist it. Including Fairy itself for no reason at all.

    • @kibabissal7033
      @kibabissal7033 2 місяці тому +6

      @@Dinoman972 Well, yes, but as counterpart Bug Pkmn learn a lot of movements of different types that would counter that (as a monotype player years ago, bug type was one of my best teams)

    • @miimiiandco
      @miimiiandco Місяць тому +15

      I mean, Fairy was and still is the best type in the game, being strong against some of the strongest types, while only being weak to Poison (one of the weaker types) and Steel (one of the best defensive types, making them even better).
      I think having Fairies is better than having busted Dragons, though.

    • @kibabissal7033
      @kibabissal7033 Місяць тому +4

      @@miimiiandco Fairy isn't the best type at all. So easy to have moves that would destroy them, weak Pokémon (about stats), weak attacks, bad typing combos... Dragon still being the strongest BY FAR. Only if you have another Dragon you can fight them properly (if they don't just destroy you faster)

  • @jeffreybenefield2530
    @jeffreybenefield2530 7 місяців тому +1239

    Wolfe has the patience of a saint to explain this to people who: A. Don't have the DLC and B. Don't plan on remembering any of this when it is swept aside for the gimmick of the next generation.

    • @BlackSun404
      @BlackSun404 7 місяців тому +30

      I feel / felt this so hard, I stopped playing Pokémon IDK how many gens ago. 3rd Gen was the last one I still enjoyed. All downhill from there on average. Refused ever using "Mega" because I could only see it for the gimmick it was. Soon after, refused to even play the new games. Now I'm here, wondering wth even HAPPENED to the Pokémon I used to love. No wonder Pal is where it is...

    • @normalperson7
      @normalperson7 7 місяців тому +51

      ​@@BlackSun404gen 5 and 7 was peak wydm ?

    • @pickedceasar1216
      @pickedceasar1216 7 місяців тому +53

      @@BlackSun404 just because something is a gimmick doesn’t make it bad 😂 like I’m not excusing them removing stuff but almost every game has gimmicks

    • @getyoked233
      @getyoked233 7 місяців тому +2

      That’s me😅

    • @SagittariusAyy
      @SagittariusAyy 7 місяців тому

      More forward thinking than TPC seems to be doing these days.

  • @emdal4055
    @emdal4055 7 місяців тому +1787

    Wolf : I think all of you are stellar !
    me : does that mean you think we are all total failures ?

    • @luminatron
      @luminatron 7 місяців тому +37

      💀

    • @DDXofficial
      @DDXofficial 7 місяців тому +56

      truly a "what did he mean by this" moment

    • @snes90
      @snes90 7 місяців тому +19

      Hearing that statement cut right through my defenses, but upon listening to it a second time, it didn't hurt as much.
      🙂

    • @emdal4055
      @emdal4055 7 місяців тому +13

      @@snes90 the first time, it was à crit

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty 7 місяців тому +6

      @@emdal4055 I've just encountered the youtube version of "why is this hidden in the notes this needs to be seen"

  • @SpectroliteDS
    @SpectroliteDS 7 місяців тому +807

    Even better is that's it's probably gonna be a one-off thing that just disappears as soon as the next generation comes by, since it's so heavily tied to the regional gimmick.

    • @GameGodZERO
      @GameGodZERO 7 місяців тому +114

      The fun part is they actually establish in the dlc how terastalization can be ported to other regions; compared to SwSh where they made it pretty clear dynamax can only happen in Galar
      So yeah probably wont be back in gen 10 knowing GF but they definitely left the door open to reuse it in the future

    • @saltator8565
      @saltator8565 7 місяців тому +95

      @@GameGodZERO Well, Megas are able to be used in different regions and they were still cut, so I doubt Tera will return, especially when considering how less charismatic it is.

    • @GameGodZERO
      @GameGodZERO 7 місяців тому +9

      @saltator8565 dunno what you mean "less charismatic" in this context
      And like I did say they probably ditch Tera in gen 10, because they cant help themselves but make something new that's inevitably worse than the prior gimmick. But they left room to be able to bring it back at some point if they want. Unlike Dynamax they specifically wrote in the region lore to only be possible in galar as it deserves.
      And quite frankly Terastal has been the only good new gimmick they've made since Megas so it getting replaced by something god awful most likely will be depressing for sure

    • @saltator8565
      @saltator8565 7 місяців тому +70

      @@GameGodZERO Mega Evolution has been a much more popular and well received concept by Pokemon fans

    • @hamdepaf6686
      @hamdepaf6686 7 місяців тому +13

      not by the competetive community for example.
      But yea Mega pokemon where removed because they brought a lot of problems with them. Considering Terastralization is the first time the regional gimmic is without problems, there is a chance it might be here to stay in some shape or form.

  • @alcatrazia
    @alcatrazia 3 місяці тому +57

    incineroar appears at 18:39

    • @fro4152
      @fro4152 3 місяці тому +3

      Thanks, my brother and I have turned into a game, and we were a bit in an were unsure, but thanks

    • @bananachineyes
      @bananachineyes 2 місяці тому +6

      10:53 is right there

  • @poppyfrancis7338
    @poppyfrancis7338 7 місяців тому +448

    The biggest mistake in my eyes was giving non STAB moves a lower multiplier than just terastallizing into that type. I doubt it would have saved stellar because it still doesn't supply the defense most mons would rather have had, but on mons who don't need a constant damage buff and only struggle with against targets that they can't kill in one hit, it could have been a surprise option nobody usually expects to fight

    • @glurak888
      @glurak888 7 місяців тому +1

      Im out of the loop, what are the multipliers

    • @ManyTanks1
      @ManyTanks1 7 місяців тому +12

      @@glurak8881.2x on moves you’re not the same type of, but only once per type.

    • @felixhenson9926
      @felixhenson9926 7 місяців тому +5

      Agreed, mixed attackers are the obvious candidates here but having one maybe two strong move and 2 or 3 less strong moves kinda sucks.

    • @felixhenson9926
      @felixhenson9926 7 місяців тому +6

      @@glurak888 more or less 1.5 for a non-STAB move and 2x (including STAB) for a same type move for normal terastalisation, for stellar type tera 1.2x for non-STAB moves 1.7x for same type moves but you can only get that boost once per usage of a move of that type

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty 7 місяців тому +5

      @@felixhenson9926 This sounds like the jankiest attempt to try out Shadow Type again but balanced, except that instead of balancing the boat they managed to Titanic it and now it's sitting there with half of it sticking vertically out of the water as everything falls out of it.

  • @stick3448
    @stick3448 7 місяців тому +470

    I'm honestly just glad the DLC-exclusive Pokemon themselves aren't breaking the game this time. It's just a fun little mechanic that is fun for casual players but doesn't have that much impact on competitive.

    • @blu6295
      @blu6295 7 місяців тому +18

      they may not break it, but they are incredibly strong. looking at the culprits that are raging bolt and archaludon

    • @hamdepaf6686
      @hamdepaf6686 7 місяців тому +23

      they are strong, but I have the feeling that powercreep this generation was relatively low. I may be totally wrong on this, people always tend to point tmat previous OU staples dropping tiers like crazy, but to me it feels more like a shuffle, where there are winners and loosers of the new mechanics and meta. I mean we have seen a lot of previously "meh" pokemon getting some time in the light and I feel there is still plenty of old pokemon being relevant.

    • @itztaytay2
      @itztaytay2 7 місяців тому +22

      @@hamdepaf6686 In singles at least (with the whole dropping tiers thing) there are many, many more losers than winners this gen mostly due to this being the first mainline game where movesets didn't transfer and so a lot of mons lost their old staple moves (Defog, Roost, Heal Bell, Toxic to name a few). That combined with an absolute slew of new mons with high BST and great abilities + moves has made for an insane generation powercreep wise

    • @emceemikey
      @emceemikey 7 місяців тому +1

      I felt this way with kitakami, but there are so many good mons in teal mask that I skipped reg F

    • @a_potato
      @a_potato 7 місяців тому

      ​@@hamdepaf6686 i KNOW you did not just try to say gen9 didn't have powercreep. Possibly the worst take i have ever heard.

  • @bagthecadran
    @bagthecadran 7 місяців тому +4250

    It took me way too long to realize this wasn’t an April Fool’s joke and I’m just out of the pokemon loop

    • @kaiyagazley8502
      @kaiyagazley8502 7 місяців тому +256

      I'm almost halfway through the video and I also thought it was an elaborate April Fools joke. I thought it was funny how elaborate he was being, throwing in so many different exceptions and rules.

    • @artur6912
      @artur6912 7 місяців тому +156

      Well, by the end of the day it's just an extra gimmick on top of the gimmick, from an optional dlc, not a real type, and as such it will be forgotten in the next game.

    • @Dorito_Djinn
      @Dorito_Djinn 6 місяців тому +32

      I just clicked to see what the type was and I'm not even disappointed anymore. The games fell off after gen 7, pokemon go is going down the drain, the original anime ended and it's clear the series is officially past its prime. It's sad to see as a former fan but at least Palworld opened the way for new entries in the genre and it's only a matter of time before something that can actually compete with pokemon releases.

    • @thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong
      @thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Dorito_Djinn don't forget Subjectively's Enigmorphs :D

    • @rubysworld7640
      @rubysworld7640 6 місяців тому +15

      Bro it took me way too long to realize you said "wasn't" not "was" and I was Googling trying to find the article about the joke and realized it was real.

  • @blvck1635
    @blvck1635 3 місяці тому +20

    I just feel like Pokemon has been trying so hard to do something new or have a new gimmick when mega evolution was the most natural progression of the series and it reinforced the idea of having a bond with your pokemon.

    • @Yami-mugoni613
      @Yami-mugoni613 17 днів тому +1

      But nah it’s actually hurts your pokemon

  • @leesoftpaw5086
    @leesoftpaw5086 7 місяців тому +795

    Just pointing out they seemed to announce this type only as the 19th Tera-type, not just the 19th type as a whole

    • @Rodrigo_Vega
      @Rodrigo_Vega 7 місяців тому +22

      WTF is a "Tera-type", bro. I'm old, I was born in the 90s. I gave up on this video's first 5min, because I don't even get the basics of what he's talking.

    • @zozzinator
      @zozzinator 7 місяців тому +46

      ​@@Rodrigo_Vegaso in the new pokemon games you can do something similar to mega-evolution where your pokemon changes its type. The type it changes to is freely choosable, for example you could make pikachu become a fire type. Also similar to mega-evolution: only usable once per match

    • @mechadeka
      @mechadeka 7 місяців тому +52

      ​@Rodrigo_Vega It's when you parallel summon a new Beyblade from your Digivice.

    • @Rodrigo_Vega
      @Rodrigo_Vega 7 місяців тому +5

      @@zozzinator I guess that's like a single-use item or something?

    • @zozzinator
      @zozzinator 7 місяців тому +25

      @@Rodrigo_Vega in theory yeah, but activating it doesn't waste a turn and there are no activation requirements

  • @Nako3
    @Nako3 7 місяців тому +2527

    What are they even going to do with Terapagos and Ogerpon in future gens when there is no tera?

    • @luizfelipevbf5567
      @luizfelipevbf5567 7 місяців тому +681

      Ogerpon without its special forms is still a very solid pokemon
      Terapagos will just be shit.

    • @korinsumazi4239
      @korinsumazi4239 7 місяців тому +333

      I agree with Ogerpon being solid even without its form changes.
      For Terapagos, they have a few options, but they seem less likely to do anything meaningful. They could make a held item that replaces his tera-forms stat buffs. They could also recode his signature move to be like the tera-form version all the time.
      It might also depend on the current gimmick. Whatever Big Pikachu comes up with next might buff Terapagos more than expected.

    • @ashleyvanbeek7045
      @ashleyvanbeek7045 7 місяців тому +227

      Ogerpon's masks will function just fine without terastalization. Terapagos might just not come back though.

    • @JaimeCastillo-o4f
      @JaimeCastillo-o4f 7 місяців тому +44

      @@luizfelipevbf5567 Atleast Terapagos is cute... Ok, I just need an excuse to not feel ripped off yet again with the Pokemon DLC.

    • @LegendStormcrow
      @LegendStormcrow 7 місяців тому +41

      To be fair, the wolves are still relevant despite there not being gigantimax. Who knows?

  • @AMwatcher
    @AMwatcher 7 місяців тому +1957

    2:19
    “I think all of you are stellar”
    Well I feel offended

    • @actuatioN352
      @actuatioN352 7 місяців тому +163

      So he's calling us a total failure?!

    • @averychurch1392
      @averychurch1392 7 місяців тому +8

      If you comment within one hour like we did, then it isn't about you

    • @BoldMold
      @BoldMold 7 місяців тому +23

      Just passing by to say your avatar is great.

    • @igorlopes8463
      @igorlopes8463 7 місяців тому +6

      Yeah, we all know regular humans are normal type

    • @wittingcave5591
      @wittingcave5591 7 місяців тому +2

      @@actuatioN352Not that we all can deny and be correct though.

  • @sinnastyx
    @sinnastyx 6 місяців тому +42

    I wish pokemon had just kept mega evolutions, and introduced a handful of new ones each gen or smth :(

    • @justjoannak
      @justjoannak Місяць тому +4

      Agreed

    • @Sr_Cheto_
      @Sr_Cheto_ 10 днів тому

      I personally don't like megas, but if they were the only gimmick and **all** Pokémon had access to it, I would have little to no problems
      I really like this idea

  • @thibaud1330
    @thibaud1330 7 місяців тому +1336

    "What's the point ?"
    Marketing.

    • @ojasvijain8051
      @ojasvijain8051 6 місяців тому +19

      Poor marketing

    • @michaeldaniels642
      @michaeldaniels642 6 місяців тому +5

      Tera Raids

    • @kuro4282
      @kuro4282 5 місяців тому

      ​@@ojasvijain8051introducing a new type without actually introducing a new type.
      they get the people talking about it without risk ruining the game.
      as you see, good marketing

    • @staringatthesun861
      @staringatthesun861 5 місяців тому +10

      Lazy marketing. Which has plagued the series every generation since Gen 6.

    • @kuro4282
      @kuro4282 5 місяців тому +1

      @@staringatthesun861 i dont agree, you just want a reason to hate pokemom

  • @williamgreenhalgh4260
    @williamgreenhalgh4260 7 місяців тому +528

    A problem with stellar that most people overlook is that the boost for non-stab moves is just not enough to make it worth staying the same type. Ogerpon’s masks give it a 20% boost to all of its moves with no need for Tera, leaving other Pokémon to swap to a different type if they need to survive a strong move. At the end of the day it just isn’t worth it.

    • @flopps1051
      @flopps1051 7 місяців тому +11

      I’ve never heard of Ogerpon’s masks boosting damage to all its moves

    • @awesomeperson5150
      @awesomeperson5150 7 місяців тому

      @@flopps1051Look it up. The Heartflame, Wellspring, and Cornerstone Masks have that effect, probably to compensate for how they take up the held item slot

    • @ttmfndng201
      @ttmfndng201 7 місяців тому +49

      @@flopps1051 it's to compensate for not being able to hold an item. The base form of ogerpon doesn't get this boost because it can hold an item

    • @gametugboat3985
      @gametugboat3985 7 місяців тому +2

      surperior is sad

    • @GabrielHodge
      @GabrielHodge 6 місяців тому

      Good take

  • @Whimsykit
    @Whimsykit 7 місяців тому +309

    how to die tutorial: take a shot every time he says tera type

    • @Tobunari
      @Tobunari 7 місяців тому +13

      Or treat the Stellar type as the 19th type and not a part of the terastalization gimmick that it is.

    • @Servellion
      @Servellion 5 місяців тому +4

      Challenge accepted *Dumb Ways to Die starts playing*

  • @Arak_Drakoniz
    @Arak_Drakoniz 6 місяців тому +9

    I mean, this really is nothing special. Hell, the move Burn Up was more interesting than this new type.
    During the US/UM era, someone once tried to skill swap a burn up Arcanine with wonder guard in a double battle. The only problem with that is that it takes too many turns and one too many switch outs to pull off, making it easy to foil.

  • @samryan6643
    @samryan6643 7 місяців тому +553

    It seems like stellar was more so added for things like Tera raids. While it’s not good in actual battles it feels really good in the raids since it gives unlimited Tera boosts.

    • @Genericmug
      @Genericmug 7 місяців тому +27

      yeah especially for a mon like arceus

    • @lsekai2101
      @lsekai2101 7 місяців тому +1

      Yeaaaaa true

    • @sctheacat
      @sctheacat 7 місяців тому +1

      Same.

    • @Mystmon
      @Mystmon 7 місяців тому +23

      And it always hits super-effective.

    • @cobaltordinaire5219
      @cobaltordinaire5219 7 місяців тому +97

      so it's a gimmick for a gimmick for gimmick made for raids designed around these gimmicks

  • @EnergyDragonG
    @EnergyDragonG 7 місяців тому +78

    Stellar type is an added feature to the games terastal gimmick
    Like with GMax and Exclusive Z Moves

    • @artur6912
      @artur6912 7 місяців тому +7

      Yup, it's just confusingly named for what it really is.

    • @light6666
      @light6666 5 місяців тому +2

      Atleast Gmax and exclusive Z moves where both good and a fair investment.. stellar is worthless no really there is no reason to use stellar at all

  • @josepharmstrong1788
    @josepharmstrong1788 7 місяців тому +69

    I feel that I should mention that Contrary and Sniper Pokémon run the Stellar Tera type well as they’re able to ignore or reverse any drawbacks. Though even then, Malamar can’t get Power Trip or Stored Power so it’s really not worth it on all Pokémon that fall in this category.

  • @NeoFrThatGuy
    @NeoFrThatGuy 5 місяців тому +5

    i feel like wolfeyVGC is gonna make a video title
    :How I Won A Pokemon Tournament Using a Stellar Type Pokemon

  • @theprismaticsystem2833
    @theprismaticsystem2833 7 місяців тому +72

    Ngl this smells like someone at Gamefreak looked at the "shadow type" in original colosseum and was like make that a terratype but not broken and repeatably got scared they over did it at each stage of it's development.

  • @legodrakie
    @legodrakie 7 місяців тому +197

    Having not played the DLC, I didn't know the stellar-type existed and had to look up if it was a real type or an April fools video that was released a couple of days to early.

    • @Druid-T
      @Druid-T 7 місяців тому +30

      That really goes to show how much if a flop it is

    • @eglol
      @eglol 7 місяців тому +1

      Whoa

    • @NA-ys9ib
      @NA-ys9ib 7 місяців тому +7

      I knew it existed and totally forgot it was a thing

    • @gentlepeeps3351
      @gentlepeeps3351 7 місяців тому +6

      yeah i played didnt realise it exised until looking at terapagos summary its not that tied to the dlc which is pretty good tbh

  • @pokezach494_
    @pokezach494_ 7 місяців тому +4694

    The Stellar Tera Type is my favorite Tera Type in fact I just love Tera Types don’t you guys just LOVE Tera Types???

    • @foolishlysnowy
      @foolishlysnowy 7 місяців тому +245

      If I was a gym leader I'd have a stellar type gym team 😍

    • @yonkodude
      @yonkodude 7 місяців тому +359

      @@foolishlysnowyi was gonna ask how cause only 1 tera per battle but i assume your love for tera is so strong u bypass the limitations of tera to tera every pokemon possible

    • @lumpytoad1357
      @lumpytoad1357 7 місяців тому +270

      Strong Tera Types. Weak Tera Types. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites.

    • @domenichughes7792
      @domenichughes7792 7 місяців тому +77

      ​@@lumpytoad1357absolutely correct. This is what I always say.
      My favorite types are steel, fairy, water, and fire. I am very brave

    • @krnprsd498
      @krnprsd498 7 місяців тому +42

      @@yonkodudeThey’re the first gym leader, and they just have 1 Pokémon that always teras turn one

  • @andrussia_3909
    @andrussia_3909 6 місяців тому +7

    I personaly think that stellar tipe is "one game feature" and it will be forgotten in gen 10 or later

  • @kai0318
    @kai0318 7 місяців тому +141

    In competitive, it doesn't do much.
    When doing raids, it works differently since it's damage boosts are unlimited, allowing Pokémon with coverage to use it at will. You could also use a Pokémon with Contrary in these raids to use Stellar Tera Blast, where you'll constantly put out guaranteed super effective damage no matter what whilst buffing your own attack.
    But even from there, it all feels kind of underwhelming.
    My two proposed changes are:
    1. Stellar boosts do not run out, but you need to alternate between types. If you used Flamethrower, you will not get a boost on Fire-type attacks until you use an attack of a different types.
    OR
    2. Stellar overrides defensive properties, effectively removing both your resistances and weaknesses.

    • @sctheacat
      @sctheacat 7 місяців тому +2

      I like this idea. It would give it so balance.

    • @sctheacat
      @sctheacat 7 місяців тому +11

      I like this idea. You having to use different types before getting the boost can help.

    • @QCCBigZam
      @QCCBigZam 7 місяців тому +6

      Opened the comments to post the exact bit about raids and contrary. It honestly feels like that’s the only point of the Stellar Tera currently.

    • @HappyGick
      @HappyGick 7 місяців тому +6

      If your second proposal went through, pretty sure National Dex AG would be plagued by Tera Stellar Choice Band Tera Blast Shedinja. Eh... I think I'm leaving Tera Stellar as a pure offensive boost.

    • @kai0318
      @kai0318 7 місяців тому +7

      @@HappyGick I will be completely honest: I always forget about Shedinja lmao, good catch

  • @jjab7996
    @jjab7996 7 місяців тому +257

    Stellar type is basically the gigantamax equivalent to the tera mechanic, it's marketed as a new type but really it's just an extra to the gimmick

    • @MaximusChivus
      @MaximusChivus 7 місяців тому +31

      No, y'all just can't read apparently. They specifically said new tera type in just about every press release on it.

    • @Rusty_Spy
      @Rusty_Spy 7 місяців тому +40

      It's more like the tera equivalent of Behemoth Blade, I.e designed to counter any user of the games gimmick

    • @abyssalnothingness
      @abyssalnothingness 7 місяців тому +3

      ​​@@MaximusChivus blatantly untrue as they claimed it was the 19th type. I remember they said it in an pokemon news teaser thing on their website

    • @lucasveley5400
      @lucasveley5400 7 місяців тому +6

      To be fair gmax is a new form and unique moves. It just so happens to also be big. But I think it's worth not putting gmax in garbage tier like stellar is

    • @NokoTheTaco
      @NokoTheTaco 7 місяців тому +18

      It said “19th Tera Type” so the one your responding to is correct.

  • @jamonero
    @jamonero 7 місяців тому +159

    I think the Stellar Tera function is do the tera raids more easy. You can hit the shield with tera-super effective attacks with types that resist the tera-raid boss.
    Also, you don't have the limitation of 1 attack boost in raids with stellar type.
    Nice video, have a nice day!

    • @moosecannibal8224
      @moosecannibal8224 7 місяців тому +27

      So they made a problem and then made a feature to solve that problem.
      They could have just not made the problem in the first place.

    • @jamonero
      @jamonero 7 місяців тому +22

      @@moosecannibal8224 Tera Raids isn't a problem. They have good difficulty in the 7* raids events.
      DLC users can do it more easy. It's like... pay 2 easy.

    • @Gravity_cat
      @Gravity_cat 7 місяців тому +6

      Indeed, all of the 'mons I converted to Stellar are for Raids, and figured their natural types were good enough for what they were intended for.

    • @nerdyfalco408
      @nerdyfalco408 7 місяців тому +8

      ​@@jamonero tera raids are bugged, that is the problem

    • @moosecannibal8224
      @moosecannibal8224 7 місяців тому +2

      @@nerdyfalco408 Yeah exactly, the concept of a tera raid doesn't sound bad, it's just how it was implemented causes a problem.
      They could have just not implemented it that way.

  • @NewDealChief
    @NewDealChief 5 місяців тому +5

    That thumbnail is just crazy. Leave that little guy alone!

  • @TheOnlyTherazan
    @TheOnlyTherazan 7 місяців тому +495

    The slowly dawning realization this wasn't an April's Fools video, they are really discussing the Tera-only Type as if it was a full-on Pokémon Type.

    • @cometnight0
      @cometnight0 7 місяців тому +35

      When I first saw this in my recommended I was like. Okay. There is no way this isn't an april fools video. 1.4 million views later I am here, regretting not keeping up with pokemon.

    • @Bladieblah
      @Bladieblah 6 місяців тому +3

      He*. It makes for better clickbait and is more appealing angle to casual audience

    • @gaddiusgaddium9082
      @gaddiusgaddium9082 5 місяців тому +2

      Hidden Power typing ah ah

  • @chaosinc.382
    @chaosinc.382 7 місяців тому +321

    I miss Megavolving. That shit was awesome.

    • @gabrielgoes0
      @gabrielgoes0 4 місяці тому +5

      Fr

    • @zarudegaming4427
      @zarudegaming4427 4 місяці тому +21

      Well a new pokemon game is coming in with mega evolution. You getting yo wish bro.

    • @chaosinc.382
      @chaosinc.382 4 місяці тому +9

      @@zarudegaming4427 Really? Shewt, I might actually pick it up. First time since X/Y!

    • @RudraakshSurongSharma
      @RudraakshSurongSharma 4 місяці тому +10

      ​@@chaosinc.382 it's Pokemon Legends Z-A, it'll be set in Kalos and will be coming out next year

    • @ihateidiots-y4v
      @ihateidiots-y4v 3 місяці тому

      @@RudraakshSurongSharma this is how i'm finding out about it. I CANT WAIT OMG i loved legends arceus, and x&y was my fave anime but i could never get into the game itself.

  • @turkeytuesday9348
    @turkeytuesday9348 7 місяців тому +239

    When I first heard it had no weakness I thought shedninja was going to run everything

    • @PokeMasrerJ
      @PokeMasrerJ 7 місяців тому +67

      Thankfully, that's not in the game. Terra Electric with an Air Balloon would make it impossible to hit with any damaging move. ofc status like Burn / Poison still work, and Hazards as well.

    • @Rainstorm_100
      @Rainstorm_100 7 місяців тому

      honestly I would just run it in the back, wipe out any electric mons, and then side para your own saftey googles shedinja for the win@@PokeMasrerJ

    • @XenoTheTurtle
      @XenoTheTurtle 7 місяців тому +92

      ​@@PokeMasrerJ oddly enough, tera stellar would be a check to tera electric shedinja w/ air balloon, as you'd be able to hit it with tera blast stellar (since it's super effective on terastelized pokemon)

    • @PokeMasrerJ
      @PokeMasrerJ 7 місяців тому +5

      @@XenoTheTurtle oh yeah. True

    • @JanusHoW
      @JanusHoW 7 місяців тому +6

      @@PokeMasrerJ And Sandstorm. Any form of passive damage takes out Shedinja instantly.

  • @Videosaurus_Wrex
    @Videosaurus_Wrex 2 місяці тому +2

    You're high if you think the pokemon types were balanced before Fairy type was added; poison was virtually useless as a type, psychic was ludicrously OP for years even against the ghost types that were supposed to be strong against them, dragons were very non-existent due to their OP nature requiring rarity, ice was extremely rare and the only real way to counter dragons which made most endgames turn into hours of grinding low level ice pokemon you were finally able to catch basically outside the pokemon league.
    Fairy gave purpose to poison, and has allowed much more dragons to exist not just in the game, but throughout the games so finally training a dragon doesn't become its own painfully long side quest in the second half of a pokemon game

  • @RockOrso2
    @RockOrso2 7 місяців тому +66

    I have to agree that Tera stellar is bad, but only in a competitive context since it's best use is in Tera Raids and the best user is Arceus because of the 17 plates, but I sincerely have to thank your dual type tier list since every single dual type you rated as B or higher does really well in 6 star raids and could even do fine with 7 stars since Unrivaled Decidueye & Iron Bundle are the only 7 star raids so far that I've used Stellar Arceus on to adapt it's Poison or Steel plate,but on the B rank or higher dual types I now made Tera Stellar can now cover 2 types effectively AND keep the defensive perks of their combination, except for those with a 4x weakness, but that's an acceptable drawback.

    • @Kingnothing7x
      @Kingnothing7x 7 місяців тому +3

      I like contrary mons for stellar, the catch from tera blast becomes a buff, kinda cool

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 7 місяців тому +38

    Feel like if the Stellar Tera Type gave a 3x boost for it being a one time per type of move or keep the boost the same but switching out brings back the boost, it would definitely be an offensive threat compared to what it currently is

  • @Glory2Snowstar
    @Glory2Snowstar 7 місяців тому +105

    Fairy was perhaps the best addition to the series since Gen 4’s Physical/Special split. People say it’s busted but y’all do NOT wanna go back to the era of DragMag. Also I’m biased because Poison is my favorite Type.
    Honestly I wouldn’t mind us never getting a new Type. Just supplements to the existing ones. All thematic bases are covered by either Types or properties (sound for example), and it would be quite hard to retroactively change the Types of some Pokémon when OVER 1,000 OF THEM exist now.

    • @alphacraig4784
      @alphacraig4784 7 місяців тому +18

      I honestly think they should have just buffed ice instead of adding fairy.

    • @spreadwuvokay
      @spreadwuvokay 7 місяців тому

      ​@@alphacraig4784Why do you say that?

    • @alphacraig4784
      @alphacraig4784 7 місяців тому +23

      @@spreadwuvokay Because ice is weak as hell in the current and old meta and Ice is super effective against dragon. Buffing it a bit would have been better than adding fairy and making it super busted

    • @PigeonOfTheAbyss
      @PigeonOfTheAbyss 7 місяців тому +19

      @@alphacraig4784 Tbf ice is mostly trash as a defensive type, which for some reason gamefreak has an obsession with. Most fast/ high attack ice mons have been meta defining in the gen they were introduced at. I feel like its fine to have types that are very good offensively like ice and types that are very good defensively like steel, but then you actually have to play into the strenght of the type and not release the 50th slow bulky ice type.

    • @alphacraig4784
      @alphacraig4784 7 місяців тому

      @@PigeonOfTheAbyss i mean yeah definitely. Most dragons were also double weak to ice and all it needed as a buff imo tbh is an ice type quick attack tbh

  • @gabrielgoes0
    @gabrielgoes0 4 місяці тому +13

    The main problem with terastalization is not that it doesn't work or something, it's that it looks ugly and stupid af. I hate it because of that

  • @Lumpyrox1412
    @Lumpyrox1412 7 місяців тому +34

    Hey editor, I love when you randomly put Wolf's talking face on pokemon hes talking about, It's very entertaining!!

  • @malcolmduru1854
    @malcolmduru1854 7 місяців тому +161

    That's why I see the Stellar-type as a catalyst type to the 18 regular types compared to Shadow-type not being an actual type on paper but yet the possible antithesis to Stellar due to Shadow moves being super effective to every other type but is resisted by Shadow Pokemon.
    Edit: HOLY HECK! 100 likes! Wow...thanks guys. 😳

  • @guts60
    @guts60 7 місяців тому +30

    The thing about the fairy type is that it was eventually made more balanced just by being worked on over the last decade. And yeah, it’s still really powerful but so is Dragon type and, to an extent, ghost type.

    • @Eclipsed_Embers
      @Eclipsed_Embers 7 місяців тому +6

      one slight counterpoint here is that the Dragon type itself wasn't what was powerful, it was the pokemon that happened to be Dragon type.
      for a long time (gen 5 was the first point where they started to move away from this but it really increased once we hit gen 6, by which point Fairy type had already been added) Dragon type was basically reserved only for pseudo-legendary and legendary pokemon (from gen 1 to gen 5 the only dragon type pokemon that weren't legendary or pseudo-legendary were Kingdra (gen 2), Vibrava, Flygon and Altaria (gen 3), Axew, Fraxure, Haxorus, and Druddigon (gen 5). 8 pokemon split between 5 evolution trees), pokemon which naturally tend to be on the more powerful side of things.
      offensively Dragon type has always been pathetic. it's only strong against other Dragons, it's resisted by Steel, and since Fairy's introduction it's had no effect on Fairies.
      defensively it wasn't exactly a type to write home about either. 2 weaknesses (itself and ice), 4 resistances (fire, water, grass, and electric), 0 immunities.
      Dragon type was nothing special, it was just slapped onto a lot of very special pokemon, even now it's still primarily slapped onto naturally stronger Pokemon that would probably do just fine without it (one could even argue that since Fairy's introduction many of those strong Pokemon would be better off without the Dragon typing).

    • @RoninCatholic
      @RoninCatholic 7 місяців тому +4

      @@Eclipsed_Embers Dragon was always a really, really good type by resisting four of the most common special attacking types (okay, three common plus my personal favorite, Grass) and only having two weaknesses (itself and Ice). Give typical early game fodder like an early bird, three stage rapid evolve bug, or regional rodent the Dragon type and even with the same low BST it's better than it'd have been as bug, normal, or flying type because dragon is just a better type than normal outside of Gen 1. Dragon needed a hard counter, because Dragon type attacks were almost never resisted (Steel types only).
      Between being neutral offensively, lots of powerful moves from gen 3 onward, and being a defensive juggernaut only outpaced by Steel and Ghost, Fairy was a necessary addition to the game.

    • @miimiiandco
      @miimiiandco Місяць тому +1

      Dragons could spam Outrage and nothing but Steel types could stop it.

  • @TyanaAlexandra
    @TyanaAlexandra 27 днів тому +2

    All considered I think GameFreak handled the addition of the Fairy Type quite well

  • @mrclownyclown_
    @mrclownyclown_ 7 місяців тому +94

    wait there was a new type? this was so unimpactful i didnt hear about it at all😭😭😭

    • @itaiko5498
      @itaiko5498 5 місяців тому +3

      Ikr?!

    • @leila13dnd
      @leila13dnd 4 місяці тому +6

      It's dlc locked AND only a Tery Type + a pretty useless one at that, so I am not surprised at all.

    • @miimiiandco
      @miimiiandco Місяць тому

      It's a Tera Type.

  • @TheGoodDoctor049
    @TheGoodDoctor049 7 місяців тому +29

    So it's basically almighty from SMT, you can't be weak to it, but you can't resist it either.

    • @hyokamatsuriyo5399
      @hyokamatsuriyo5399 6 місяців тому +1

      Certain bosses resist it in games and there's an Anti-Almighty skill in Devil Survivor 2

    • @TheGoodDoctor049
      @TheGoodDoctor049 6 місяців тому

      @@hyokamatsuriyo5399 Well I've only played Persona so I wouldn't know.

  • @Blue_EmeraldX
    @Blue_EmeraldX 7 місяців тому +62

    I didn't find anyone else bringing this suggestion up, regarding the "fixing Stellar" segment, but I was wondering: why not have it so Tera-Stellar boosts every move by 25%, and _without_ losing the Stellar boost after using that move type?
    That was the big sticking point with it, right: that the boost was gone after using the attack-and that boost wasn't even as good as traditional Tera, anyway? Couldn't maintaining that minor boost during the Tera make it a more considerable option?
    For one, it would decomplicate/declutter the mechanic a little. There's less rules around it to deal with, basically. It's effectively solidifying Stellar's presentation as a "jack of all trades, master of none" type, with the caveat of Stellar being super-effective against Tera. Stellar is basically all the types, but its lack of specialization means it won't be as impactful as the rest of the types-that would be an easy enough explanation for players to grasp and remember. It's also why I suggest buffing the non-STABs to a non-ephemeral 25%, because that's simple enough to explain, too-that it boosts every type, but only _half_ as well as other Tera types.
    Plus, it gets rid of the rule stating "every attack type gets buffed, but after you use a non-Stellar attack in Stellar mode, that type loses the boost." I honestly think that rule needlessly complicates the Stellar type. This then means Terapagos won't be the only one to maintain the non-STAB boosts in Tera mode, which is another rule gone-basically, streamlining the Stellar mechanic.
    Next, giving Tera-Stellar a persistent half-boost means certain players might seriously consider it for offense if they care more about making _all_ of a Pokémon's moves better, rather than focusing on one attack type being the strongest. It's kind of like the Expert Belt or the Wise Glasses in that way: their effects are nowhere near as powerful as Choice Band/Specs, but they're still available for any player running a Pokémon with a varied spread of attack types, that cares more about just having somewhat better attacks all around, without worrying about being locked into one option. So, in terms of offense, Stellar would not be a particularly strong type, but it now becomes a choice for players who like keeping their options open-it fits their play style, basically.

    • @Lokisif34
      @Lokisif34 7 місяців тому +6

      Well yeah pretty reasonable, or honestly you can go the other way and make the values extreme so it's a hail Mary one use type of effect. Not to the level z moves were, but enough for it to at least be anti terra tech (which it kind of if you squint hard enough already is)

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty 7 місяців тому +2

      Another possibility would be to keep the messy "loses the stellar boost when used in Stellar mode", but to TRANSFER IT to defense: you lose the offense of that specific type, but you gain defense on said type in exchange.
      It'd mechanically work similar to Kecleon's Color Change or the Porygon line's Conversion(2), with the extra type boost transferring from attack to defense when you attack with it. You'd still lose the attack boost, but gain something to make up for the loss.
      Possibly could also have like... being hit by a type you have that's "stellar-defended" flipping it back to the attack boost instead of the defense one, which would make multi-hit attacks get through stellar-boosted defenses, since the first hit triggers the swap, and you get un-defended damage for the rest of the chain. (though that part would definitely need more finagling)

    • @roguecloud5674
      @roguecloud5674 7 місяців тому

      Maybe give it a very small resistance to all types or alternatively give it resistance to tera boosted moves.

    • @Lokisif34
      @Lokisif34 6 місяців тому

      @@neoqwerty Super late but Yeah. However then top tier get more annoying, since they get a defense boost on top of blowing you back out if they played right Not to mention the typing would make super effective moves impossible on said mon. Plus getting the right type of moves to actually use said defensive option is a headache to luck dependent at the worst. Would lead to wackier combos, but overall not significant enough i don't think.

  • @abrahamgrimes3055
    @abrahamgrimes3055 6 місяців тому

    I like the flow of the script and how this commentary is going! You have been putting in some work!

  • @MoonlightAntics
    @MoonlightAntics 7 місяців тому +28

    4:18 "Morbillion" 💀💀💀

    • @fatidiot8822
      @fatidiot8822 5 місяців тому +1

      You wont like him when hes hungry

    • @fueledsoul3379
      @fueledsoul3379 2 місяці тому +1

      I read that as he said that 😭

    • @2thirty2pm
      @2thirty2pm 2 місяці тому

      @@fueledsoul3379the new youtube update shows mobile users timestamped comments as the time comes in the video

    • @fueledsoul3379
      @fueledsoul3379 2 місяці тому

      @@2thirty2pm wait what do you mean ? Do you mean the time stamp on the comment? Ik clicking causes you to go back to the time stamp but i actually read the comment as they said it

  • @Doughknut2
    @Doughknut2 7 місяців тому +244

    Wolfey Fairy type was added in 2013, not 2014.

  • @orfeastube
    @orfeastube 7 місяців тому +8

    Just wanted to say that I appreciate how much work you put in your videos.
    No click bates, no cringe memes.
    You give love on your editing and your scripts and I can see it.
    Continue the good work.

  • @J-cz7yv
    @J-cz7yv 5 місяців тому

    Hey I subscribed yesterday after watching your 2-3 most recent videos! I like how you balance the competitive side with the “average” side lol.

  • @teslobo
    @teslobo 7 місяців тому +32

    On the "I don't know how to convey that more clearly" point surrounding tera and STAB boosts, this was probably something for the editing room. A bar to represent how much power a move has, add on a bar 50% longer to show STAB, and another bar to show the tera boost. Just having text on screen saying the thing you're having trouble conveying isn't helping you. Show it visually.

  • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
    @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 7 місяців тому +292

    Funny how the most recently added “type” is deemed a failure, but the one before that became one of the most broken ones of all.

    • @pepperypeppers2755
      @pepperypeppers2755 7 місяців тому +6

      Is it?

    • @uknownhero2764
      @uknownhero2764 7 місяців тому +23

      ​@@pepperypeppers2755Fairy is really good.

    • @austinrivers5088
      @austinrivers5088 7 місяців тому +7

      ​@@uknownhero2764there's a difference between been really good and broken.

    • @uknownhero2764
      @uknownhero2764 7 місяців тому +55

      ​@@austinrivers5088Right. That was an understatement, my bad.
      Fairy is one of the best types, if not THE best, in the series. When they wanted to nerf Dragon types... they ended up creating a second Dragon type.

    • @doublereel-real
      @doublereel-real 7 місяців тому +9

      @@uknownhero2764 not really? Steel and Fire were hard buffed by Fairy, so honestly it isn't that big of a deal. Steel type is by far the best defensive type right now, meanwhile Fairy is a strong type with good offensive and defensive power. Steel hitting fairy super-effectively is a massive achilles heel for fairy types, since steel types are very common. Dragon was a powerful type because it had great defensive utility (similar to normal), but also because many of the best pokemon in the game were dragons at the time. Fairy is just a strong type, I would argue it isn't the best offensive or defensive type. It's just a good type, similar to fire or ground. Where fairy really shines is the pokemon it gets attached to tbh.

  • @LordEgilYGO
    @LordEgilYGO 7 місяців тому +67

    They basically made stellar tera "hey, you want gems back? Here you go"

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 5 місяців тому

      I like how they ping pong between gems and Pokemon boosts, with Paldea having both.

  • @juliettek.9440
    @juliettek.9440 5 місяців тому +4

    Wasn’t Pokémon before the fairy type dominated by dragon types? So they add fairies which makes everyone have fairies? Either way, one type dominated the other.

  • @artilire
    @artilire 7 місяців тому +45

    4:43
    Saying the percentages as fractions might help, like instead of 33% you could say a third, or double instead of 100%

    • @yimkumerjamz1225
      @yimkumerjamz1225 7 місяців тому +6

      Percentages are better tho? Getting exact numbers helps those who want to know the full idea whereas those who don't care about the exact numbers won't care if it's in fractions or percentages.

    • @artilire
      @artilire 6 місяців тому

      @@yimkumerjamz1225 we can do both for those who want either

    • @TriangleChloros
      @TriangleChloros 5 місяців тому +6

      @@yimkumerjamz1225 Exact numbers? You are aware that in this case a fraction is actually more accurate than a percentage, right? The increase is *exactly* a third, but it's actually 33.3333333333...%.

  • @Balven
    @Balven 7 місяців тому +59

    Man I'm getting a weird feeling that Wolfey really dislikes Incineroar for some reason...
    (probably because wolves hate cats)
    We need a compilation of every mention of Incineroar for the last like 20 videos lol

  • @TSLstudio2010
    @TSLstudio2010 7 місяців тому +36

    *They just really need to restore Darkrai*
    Bringing Dark Void back to 80% accuracy and adding Nightmare back to the games!
    Same with giving Gengar back its levitation!

    • @absolutecoolguy4290
      @absolutecoolguy4290 7 місяців тому +4

      Yea and let smergle learn it again

    • @TSLstudio2010
      @TSLstudio2010 7 місяців тому +10

      @@absolutecoolguy4290 nah

    • @Whukariousprods
      @Whukariousprods 7 місяців тому +1

      Nightmare is a terrible move. Giving up a slot for fixed damage whenever you could just like attack the mon that's asleep is NOT worth

    • @TSLstudio2010
      @TSLstudio2010 7 місяців тому

      @@Whukariousprods Yeah I know 😅

    • @ashleyvanbeek7045
      @ashleyvanbeek7045 7 місяців тому

      Gengar having Levitate never made any sense though. That thing clearly stands on the ground.

  • @newjerseylion4804
    @newjerseylion4804 Місяць тому +3

    It’s like mega evolution. Not even a type

  • @potatoqueen5248
    @potatoqueen5248 7 місяців тому +24

    Surprised Wolfe didn't bring up Tera Stellar Contrary sets. I guess most contrary Pokémon aren't good in VGC but I would've figured he'd say SOMETHING

    • @kirbykraftgames
      @kirbykraftgames 7 місяців тому +2

      I mean, Tera Stellar contrary Mons are usually pretty niche, outside of a defensively built Serperior I don’t see any real Pokemon who’d be able to use it without using Skill Swap Malamar

    • @algomaslejanoquiza3174
      @algomaslejanoquiza3174 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@kirbykraftgamesenamorous.

    • @ManyTanks1
      @ManyTanks1 7 місяців тому

      Cause there’s only like 3 contrary mons worth a damn, and even then only two are what most people would consider “good”

  • @simonich9052
    @simonich9052 7 місяців тому +21

    when you said that fairy type was added in 2014, i suddenly felt old, i was like 'what, theres no way it already has been 10 years since fairy type' but yeah, it has indeed been 10 years

    • @RellSpeaks96
      @RellSpeaks96 7 місяців тому

      Not going to lie. That aged me quick too

    • @CIements
      @CIements 7 місяців тому +11

      It has actually been 11. It came out in 2013

    • @kyleellis1825
      @kyleellis1825 7 місяців тому +3

      Pokemon is older than most of the people who play it.

    • @stevenm11920
      @stevenm11920 7 місяців тому +1

      @@kyleellis1825I’m sure everyone knows that lol but there’s definitely a whole generation of people that remember it getting added when they were younger and just havent actually thought about how long it’s been since then

  • @antoniodicorato725
    @antoniodicorato725 7 місяців тому +8

    Honestly, a funny shenanigan would be making the boost reapply on switching in. That would make stellar Fakeout - U Turn users REALLY interesting

  • @thechargedfoxie456yt2
    @thechargedfoxie456yt2 Місяць тому +2

    Stellar tera type is just the "lets make this thing op" type
    And it didnt even do that properly
    They did a pokemon with no weaknesses better eith eelektross
    Go back to that game freak
    Where's our gen 5 remakes?

  • @TLPenenn
    @TLPenenn 7 місяців тому +11

    Stellar's at least a great type for dedicated Tera Raid battlers like myself; keeping both of your types when you terastalize is really helpful for certain battles (e.g. Stellar Sap Sipper Sawsbuck being immune to all of Trevenant's raid attacks, Stellar Krookodile walling Gothitelle, Stellar Corviknight keeping its ground immunity, etc.), and it's nice to use on 'mons you only get once in a game, like the Loyal Three or the newest Paradox 'mons. Suppose it also helps that the boosts last for the entire duration of the raid and not just once-per battle; the more I think about it, the more it seems like Stellar's moreso meant for coop raiders than competitive PvP-ers.

  • @dearickangelonej.legaspi6686
    @dearickangelonej.legaspi6686 7 місяців тому +13

    Hearing the words "10" years ago for 2014 hit me harder than a choice spec'd draco meteor
    I actually agree that the Stellar type being weaker than regular ones is fitting cuz of how neutral damage worked in games like FGO and other gacha games

    • @RoninCatholic
      @RoninCatholic 7 місяців тому

      No amount of Draco Meteor can hit me, because I'm a Fairy type.

  • @kobiemartinbose6126
    @kobiemartinbose6126 7 місяців тому +54

    Terapagos looked insane when it was first introduced, a neutral normal type to start with base stats that are evenly well-distributed and becomes even bigger with terastallization turning the already bulky terapagos into this large monster of stats… or so it seemed at least. Terapagos is a failure just like the type it introduced, a large clump of stats with a whole lot going on excelling in nothing particular. It’s tanky yes and possesses an ability that can be crucial for counterplay for upcoming monsters like Koraidon, Miraidon, Kyogre, and Groudon while dealing strong boosted tera starstorm damage… but it requires terastallization, a game changing gimmick under that can change the tide of the match in a single turn.

    • @miimiiandco
      @miimiiandco Місяць тому

      I think Terapagos is a fine Pokemon. It'd prefer more Pokemon like it rather than "big attack go brr" monsters like Miraidon.

  • @GreyFox250
    @GreyFox250 Місяць тому +1

    2013. X and Y were released in 2013. The fairy type was introduced in 2013.

  • @SmubFinger
    @SmubFinger 7 місяців тому +31

    The only time I've ever seen Stellar outpace a normal tera is with Serperior, a Pokemon who you really wouldn't ever use in doubles. In singles it's contrary ability giving it a +1 boost to both offensive stats every time you click a 100 power move that can't be resisted wasn't too bad, especially with all of the coverage it likes to run like dragon pulse. Leaf storm further taking advantage of the tera and of contrary made Serperior a surprisingly funny set up sweeper, but still not the greatest pick for a team.

    • @Kingnothing7x
      @Kingnothing7x 7 місяців тому +1

      Cool for raids tho

    • @SmubFinger
      @SmubFinger 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Kingnothing7x real

    • @MedhaosFEH
      @MedhaosFEH 7 місяців тому +1

      Enamorus-I as well - mostly cause it’s a mixed attacker

  • @neonoah3353
    @neonoah3353 7 місяців тому +89

    Because its a bad gimmick disguised as a new type. Done.

  • @steampunkWizardStudios
    @steampunkWizardStudios 7 місяців тому +19

    There's just so many throwaway mechanics that are never revisited. I wish they made a pPokemon game which brought back things like mega evolution, Z moves, Dyna maxing, etc and letting them interact.

    • @Br1anwastaken
      @Br1anwastaken 3 місяці тому +1

      Well i think you are gonna like Pokemon legends ZA

  • @alaxsparkz359
    @alaxsparkz359 4 місяці тому +2

    Fairy type is really good but people act like there aren’t so many ways to counter or plan for it even during the x&y days I had zero issue once I learned what Pokemon are fairy type and what fairy type was good against and bad against.

  • @lilwhitney5174
    @lilwhitney5174 7 місяців тому +6

    Wolfy now that Scarlet and Violet has been out for some time you should do a video recapping tera as a mechanic. How it compares to other mechanics both in a matter of how fun it is to use and in how impactful it is when compared to the previous mechanics. Also a recap on which pokemon have benefited from it the most and which have been underwhelming, as well as the most frequent ways it has been used. Personally I really like tera and I think it fits really fluidly into completive Pokémon as a short burst of momentum or a long term walling. Thanks for the burst of videos lately!

  • @iancastro1327
    @iancastro1327 7 місяців тому +8

    The fsct that you dont change types is what kills it, with stab mons like flutter, urshifu or ursaluna you are looaing your secondary type wich removes a LOT of weakneses

  • @bobbiejoringulet5040
    @bobbiejoringulet5040 7 місяців тому +39

    They should have just made Stellar type weak against everything defensively and strong against everything offensively

    • @naturegirl1999
      @naturegirl1999 6 місяців тому +5

      Glass Cannon goes brrr

    • @pyroball602
      @pyroball602 5 місяців тому +7

      Nuclear Type in Pokemon Uranium (fangame) basically. Except it can't do much against Steel.

    • @LombaxOttsel
      @LombaxOttsel 4 місяці тому

      @@pyroball602I think about this a lot tbh when they introduced stellar

    • @miimiiandco
      @miimiiandco Місяць тому

      Flutter Mane go brr

  • @aerialapexgamer3121
    @aerialapexgamer3121 2 місяці тому +1

    Im just gonna completely ignore the existence of Stellar type. When Fairy was added, it was SUCH a big deal. It was all over the marketing and was TREATED as a big deal! I mean, the last type added was in Gold and Silver with Dark and Steel! Stellar just.. was underwhelming and not treated they way it shouldve been. A new type should be a permanent change to the game, not a gimmick.

  • @Jman-sv1ll
    @Jman-sv1ll 7 місяців тому +163

    Nobody cares if you watch within one hour or one day or one week 🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @jonathanlinhares7072
    @jonathanlinhares7072 7 місяців тому +32

    Pokemon really decided to answer the age old question:
    "Who asked?"

  • @ASquared544
    @ASquared544 7 місяців тому +15

    It’d be neat if Stellar type worked on a Last Resort style system, or perhaps an inverse. Basically, you need to use all your stellar boosted moves before you refresh. Either that or you need to use a non-stellar boosted move to refresh them all.
    This seems too good a buff… until you realize a. You only get to have 1 type of move, and b. It makes your damage variable and inconsistent, which makes it harder to plan around.

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 5 місяців тому +8

    1:05 isn’t that a success

    • @krysert4552
      @krysert4552 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah like.....first minute was pissing himself from possability of type being broken and then its not and thats somehow bad?

    • @mheich8659
      @mheich8659 2 місяці тому

      ​@@krysert4552yeah. i was thinking this too

  • @Lux_Familiar
    @Lux_Familiar 7 місяців тому +4

    The way he talked about the usage of Terapagos really sounded like he was already building a team around it and knew what it can do ^^

  • @TheMcK777
    @TheMcK777 7 місяців тому +7

    They really implemented the TCG's "This move's damage is unaffected by weakness or resistance" into the game and it went nowhere

  • @Herman-xf4wo
    @Herman-xf4wo 7 місяців тому +10

    1:26 it literally says 19th 'Tera' type

  • @Fbamslol
    @Fbamslol 3 місяці тому

    Probs to you btw, this was a very good video. Gave me a good insight into 'the Stellar Type', alot of good information and you worded everything well and was amazingly explained. Love to you! Earned my sub! ❤

  • @faunihugs
    @faunihugs 7 місяців тому +50

    Wolfe "I think I can win this" Glick

    • @frownyclowny6955
      @frownyclowny6955 7 місяців тому

      Wolfe “Says he loses this but wins anyways” Glick
      The two sides of the same Wolf heehee

  • @alexanderlowery1471
    @alexanderlowery1471 7 місяців тому +5

    There is the obvious outlier with Contrary users getting an attack and special attack up by using stellar Tera blast. If they gave another stellar type move but was supportive like with grassy terrain or weather moves it could’ve been decent.

  • @joviridian7636
    @joviridian7636 7 місяців тому +4

    I think a cool way they could have gone with the Stellar Type is to have it work for every type until that specific type is used.
    So when terastalizing into Stellar, defensively, you get hit by every type of effect neutrally but only for the first hit of that type, every successive hit by a move of the same type would have the normal interaction, and offensively you get a normal tera boost for every type until used.
    And then those two would be shared, so for example, you would lose a dragon type damage boost when first hit by a dragon type move and you would lose protection from your grass type defensive interaction when first using a grass type move.

  • @TyranntX
    @TyranntX 3 місяці тому +2

    They should have just brought Mega Evolution back, not this cryptic nonsense.