Still want that Tesla? 2024 BYD Seal 3.8S review
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- Опубліковано 27 лют 2024
- BYD's been in the UK for a year now, so join me for my first drive in one - a full review of the Seal. It's a Model 3 rival, meaning it's an electric saloon that'll do 0-62mph in 3.8 seconds (hence the badge on the back), go for about 300 miles on a charge… or so it says here. Join me as I point out the niggled I've experienced living with one, as well as all the good bits.
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You're new around here aren't you? And clearly didn't watch the video…
This guy probably just spam comments on any reviews about BYD or Chinese cars
How about you watch the video, you goober. He critiques what is good and what is not good about the car and provides his comments.
Hi Tim , I’ve had a Tesla and have now purchased the Seal Excellence model you’ve just demo’d. 17:09
Hands down it’s much better than my Tesla.
The air conditioning and lots of other things can be done by voice control as like a mobile and your screen, you shouldn’t be messing about with it on the move.
Tell the car to alter the heating/cooling, wind windows up/down and lots more.
BYD had to add the bleeps to traffic signs and lane change etc.
to get the 5star rating in Europe to sell the car.
We are waiting very shortly to get the new download to stop this.
But of course you can stop it by pulling the menu down from the top of the screen.
The bings and bongs will be gone shortly.
The indicator arms have also just been changed to the correct way and mine has been changed over.
Of course there will be things that I can compare and miss about my BMW M8 but that’s life, you can say that about most things.
There are people out there that don’t and won’t change to EV’s and some that hate BYD, but after all that why we all have a choice in life.
I don’t like mini’s but I won’t knock them, as other people may like them…
Whatever car you drive out there , just love it , don’t knock anyone else’s choice.
Not everyone can afford a Lamborghini 😅😅
Best comment yet! Good to hear your experiences, thanks for sharing
Hey mate, saying that the EV market is shrinking is misleading and common in the mainstream media. Truth is that sales have increased massively in the last year, it’s just that the rate that the market is growing at has reduced over the past few years. Where it was doubling, it’s been growing by 40 odd percent per year more recently. That WILL happen with any product as it becomes more and more mainstream
Misleading? So you're saying Tim lying?
So what was the market share of BEV in the UK 2022 vs 2023?
@@CathodeRayNipplezmissinformed yes
@@TAD-9 Reply Deleted 🙄
@@CathodeRayNipplezThere are a lot of errors in Tim's statement
Atto 3 is not an ocean theme ev of BYD. In China, it's called 元(Yuan). It belongs to the dynasty theme, such as Qin, Han, Yuan, Song, and Tang.
That was the joke
Once upon a time, all UK made cars had the indicator stalk on the right, it only changed when it was 'standardized' to so called global standards otherwise known as saving money on production. :)
Here in NZ, we have a real mix of indicator stalks. We get lots of Japanese imports which all have stalks on the right. And we also have quite a few European cars, with stalks on the left. So you can say that us Kiwis are ambidextrous when it comes to indicating!
I still think it makes sense to have the indicator stalk on the right for a right hand side driver seat car, especially if there's a manual transmission as your left hand will be busy with the shifter. Yes, you can call me old school.
@@GT86crazymost countries that use the “British style” driving the other way around, should try to update the driving way: it costs a lot of money and effort but then worldwide people will be used to drive the same way, identical cars, well…standardized. The same with the units, as it causes LOTS of issues from physics to economy: a partnership between USA, UK and most other countries leads to confusion. In the USA 1 thousand million is 1 billion, etc etc. I respect the history but imagine in a globalized world to use different methods and units for a lot of important thing…
@@GT86crazyTotally agree with you, I always thought it made more sense with right hand drive cars :)
Here in Manchester I drive Alexander Dennis buses with the indicator on the right so it's no biggie.
BYD It's the best EV car I've ever driven
🤣 So you don't get out much then?
Far from a Tesla. Byd feels like a Walmart tesla
Okay, what other cars have you driven?
And it has indicator stalks 🎉
@@mluu510😂😂100%😂😂
The reason why there is a delay in the acceleration is to improve comfort for the passengers. Usually chinese cars have a bit more focus on the passengers than the driver compared to European cars.
It is possible to turn off the warning sounds etc but it will turn on again when you start the car again. Sadly it does that because of EU regulations.
That's the dumbest crap I heard. Throw that delay into comfort mode, bro
@@mluu510 Well tell that to BYD then maybe they will change it if enough people want it to change.
@@UgglemannenFTW yea kinda dumb to have delay on the sport mode and who the hell will buy a 3.8 secs car n just want comfort mode...
There is no delay, if itac is off. In fact the best i have done so far is 3.4s. Happy days. 😄@@wensiangfong
Btw you just need to pull down from top of tablet and turn off the Speed camera setting with single click. It is annoying, but hopefully in update soon they will do what the did in Atto 3 and have speed threshold before it bongs, then I wouldnt need to turn off anything. They fixed the crazy try to kill you lane assist in last update here in Aus
If anywhere needs lane assist it's Australia.
@CathodeRayNipplez No one uses indicators here though, so the new Tesla should be a hit! 😀
Honest and hilarious, as usual, Tim. At least it only bongs at you and doesn’t go ‘arp-arp-arp’ !
The temptation to do ridiculous seal noises throughout this video was very real
for a car that's quite low to the ground, that incline angle could be quite useful to work out if you're about to scrape...
Hopefully you can get to review the new model 3. Test drove recently and is a great improvement on the previous generation
Tim, the upcoming BYD Killer Whale 2.0S should answer all your criticisms, it will also attack Teslas on command spinning its infotainment screen in sheer delight at 20 RPM, but importantly is pre-programmed not to go near a Seal.
Hahahaha
Hang in there Tim. Viewing figures bound to pick up soon...
I'm confused, I've just had a record month… what do you mean?
I'm genuinely delighted. Must be the new background music.... @@TimRodieDrivesStuff
Still very early days for the Seal here in the UK = they will address the majority gripes peeps have with OTA updates (IMO)
Theres a variant elsewhere with normal styled wheels.
Tim Rodie Dogs Stuff
The software seems to be the biggest problem just like the MG and as as software engineer i don't want to debug my own car after done debugging at work.
It’s good but I’m happy with my model 3 highland.
I have Atto 3 btw. Also have model y.
I've found the person buying all the EVs!
to those complaining about the menu: you can do most things with voice commands. And anyone who wants to review a car needs to read the manual for 10 minutes. Regen can be adjusted with a button on the central console and speeding warning can be turned off.
I love that more competition is coming to Europe as VW group was dominating for far to long and is mega overpriced ... but not for long once this beautiful, good and more affordable cars
Great feature - to blacken the annoying screen with sunglasses 😎. I think you are a genius.
Very interesting ‘New’ brand Tim.
Bum Your Dad 😂
The negatives of
efficiency, ride comfort, ergonomic issues, infotainment usability and tech niggles, are exactly why I would sell a car early.
I find performance and ambiance are acclimatised to and become the norm in a car.
I wonder if GMA will ever get involved in the segment and eradicate some/all of the lazy packaging and poor decisions in EV design?
Few key points: 1. The next batch of UK cars will have the indicator on the left. 2. Using the pull down menu you can disable the traffic sign recognition with one click. 3. I feel (just about) low enough in my Seal but I’m only 5’ 11” (still 2+ inches over average height). 4. BYD has undertaken to save your ADAS settings between drives in a future software update. 5. It’s not a Tesla. 😊
Good points well made!
I drive one in Hk, all the traffic warnings can be switched off and stay off, he clearly didn’t get to know the car first properly before the review and didn’t use the voice command which works well .
@@PaulLonghurst clearly
Watch Carwow if you have too 😂
Well it’ll make the value of my shares go up… (I used to work there)
Fettled thoroughly for our RHD market……..apparently the Chinese care enough.
The Seal Premium replaced our 2nd M3 RWD because it’s cluttered beautifully and is better quality and is more impressively silent and has a much bigger LFP battery and was significantly less expensive and Tesla is toast now.
1:36 This Dolphin? 😉
Indicator stalks on the RHS is correct and nothing you can say will change my mind. Leaves your left had free to do all sorts.
Like wanking?
@@TimRodieDrivesStuff sure, if you're a lefty or like a challenge.
@@rmc489 I am and do!
@@TimRodieDrivesStuff🤣🤣👌
Makes perfect sense for us here in the UK when (as I typically do) drive with one hand, either resting your elbow on the sill, or door shelf (IMO!)
Since everything is just computer code, how hard would it be to make the left and right stalks do something different? Settings - stalks - normal or stupid. Normal selected.
Nice idea, but we’re not quite there yet.
The indicator stalk has click up/down.
The other stalk has several idents in the same direction for wipers.
These are physical and can’t be coded to the other side 🤓
@@DontPanicDearjust needs to have a setup like a video game stick controller. They're programmable.
I was searching for an EV and did consider this car because it does look good, ok so you can tell it's ripped off design elements from other cars like you say but I could live with that. On balance though the Tesla just seemed to be the better all rounder, the infotainment is so good, climate control is super easy to use, you don't need to mess around with start stop buttons and it has loads of space. I dropped the hammer on a Model Y performance which I get in about a months time.
i don't think EV market is shrinking, it is shifting and becoming more distributed. u can see alot of them in countries you don't expect to see them. there are alot of less "rich" countries making EV "tax free" causing companies to priorise market where car companies don't usually do. I think it going to be a very exciting time as the new economies tries to fight to be ahead in EV adoption as a way to leapfrog their infrastructure over established economies. its not just car brand that is compeiting or countries competiting for car production, but there is also a infrastructure "arm races" going on in the developing world which is really amazing...
My only gripe is the software that looks like it was designed by a high school student.
The tesla model 3 is a buy because of the full self driving. I also like the efficiency of the model 3. Range I am impartial to.
FSD is the least compelling reason to buy a Tesla!
Shite reasoning, since it's not legal in ANY country that I'm aware of!
@@mdr-lw2bn 🐂💩 reasoning since they will raise the price when, I believe, it becomes legal.
@@mdr-lw2bn 🐂💩reasoning as tesla is the first and has the lead. While FSD is not ready for autonomous taxis. There will be many people with long commutes lining up to buy free time as the safety of the system is proved out.
If I buy a car I want to drive it
Why would you spend thousands on a car and not want drive it yourself
You are an idiot 🤬👎
Tesla is the gold standard due to the efficiency, price and supercharging network. No other EV will beat it until they beat Tesla's Supercharging.
Certain EU countries have already made the Tesla network FULLY open to all comers. Others will follow if they really want the public to adopt EVs seriously
I’m not buying one as I replaced my car a few months ago. I’m just watching for your jacket. Wow it’s loud.
I should film these in HDR to really blow people's minds...
Please stick to reviewing Ice vehicle's as you said in your opening statement on this video.
The BYD Seal has genuine leather seats. Most vehicle functions can be controlled with voice commands.
Why? As per what he said right after that.
I can see you set out not to like it and WANTED to rubbish it ....
Mate, I'm a car journalist who just shares my findings. I don't care if I'm driving an RS6 or an electric Peugeot. Same job.
The Seal should be renamed the OKish, OK seems to be the word that stood out. Superficially it seemed good until being let down by certain interior features .... lack of foot room in rear, small storage bins (including the boot), awful vertical display and it looked like you were perched on a bar stool instead of a front seat . Seal has many good features but somehow they do not gel. Your review was good.
The reports of the Model 3’s death have been exaggerated 😊
If you want to compare apple to apple, wait till the new Model 3 Performance is out.
Hi Tim, I disagree with your view on EV's having low range (i.e. small batteries) and over priced. There are defiantly some out there that fall into that category, but I could say the same about ICE vehicles (small tanks and overpriced) and I'd be equally as wrong. The MG's are averagely priced for a new car. The £40k Tesla Model 3 would easily fit into a lot of household budgets.
When 28 miles is the average domestic trip, 95% of domestic trips are
If the bonging wasn’t enough to drive u nuts, the mouse bait box stuck to the windscreen behind the rear view mirror would for me always just irritate. Then there’s the screens, why can’t we just have round tasteful speedos and other indicators. And yes I am an old fart.
No buttons = no buy.
BROUGHT YOUR DADDY
That's absolutely it
Tesla is 250kwh OBC, seal is 150kwh OBC, that enough for me buy Tesla
I test-drove the car with 3 friends, all of whom happily own the BYD Atto 3 and Tesla Model 3. They said, and I agree buy a Tesla. Software updates, construction, weight, and long-term value are some main reasons.
tesla may cry...
Back looks a bit „dodgey” as in, Dodge-like
no more car review channels. cease and desist
Do I have to stop as well?
I would definitely still buy a Tesla (I own one) as what it does and for an EV, it does right. Tesla’s design is good for my taste, it drives great, great electronic, great software and build quality is good enough. BYD releases a lot of cars, very low dedication to a model or software. It does a lot of stuff but masters none, besides it looks “too Asian” for me. Competition is great, I like Polestar and more brands leads to better products. Though I find most of them no competition for Tesla. I even see Mercedes fighting with a lot of lights, screens, etc but actually it’s not a so great EV experience as the price suggests…
Your motorbike doesn't bong at you
Yeah I'll stay with the tesla ecosystem thanks.
I don't understand why the cars BYD are trying to sell in the UK all look so totally different from one another. It is just odd.
Yeah there's not much of a design language is there?
@@TimRodieDrivesStuff It is like they all come from different manufacturers. Let's hope Wolfgang changes that.
I prefer it. It's fresh. All BMW's look the same from the front because they're imprisoned by their front grill. Their ev's, despite not requiring a grill, still has to be made to look like it would because their design language dictates it. A solution in search of a problem or at the very least the cart pulling the horse.
@@N1rOx At least someone does.
@@bw1376 one way to think about it is Toyota's look quite different from each other with the only real language carrying over is through the generations of that specific model themselves. This allows more flexibility in design while maintaining some continuity. Now, I'd be the first to admit, I can't remember the last time I thought a Toyota looked good. But since byd's a relatively new company, and doesn't have a gen 2 or 3 of the seal, we may see an approach similar to Toyota's and not BMW's, time will tell. But for now, I believe it's a little unfair to measure a new company via BMW's yard stick.
Bum Your Dad. Thanks for nothing. I am never going to call BYD cars anything else now 😢
I don't know what you mean 😇
@@TimRodieDrivesStuff你的粉丝或读者有很多极端者，从他们言语中就能看出来。任何产品不会因为一个人不喜欢去改变它，那样成本太高，除非反对者付够多的钱。从全球电动车售价对对比。没有比它很实惠的价格和配置了！我看评论区有人说他更在乎特斯拉的配置，尤其网络！第一特斯拉的硬件配置无法与海豹相比，软件彼此相差不大……在中国有很多电车彼此对比，相比之下，特斯拉卖的是营销，而海豹卖的是配置！还有特斯拉在中国出了好多起事故，导致人员死亡，海豹到现在没有死亡记录，包括比亚迪整个车系列没有。中国有民间团队对特斯拉的软件有过分析，有太多水分和营销，马斯克只是把特斯拉作为永远的提款机，很多软件都没有创新了！
Nooooo, not you as well. UA-cam is flooded with videos about Chinese EVs. Please spare us 🙏
Is a German EV any better?
@@TimRodieDrivesStuff not at all. But a French one perhaps called R5
Leave UA-cam, 😂😂
It's better solution 😂😊
Lots of false info right there, its REAL leather, all ping bong are because of EU law. Im also 6.3 and i have lots of space on rear seat, so it must be something wrong with your drivers position. U can control things through wheel like aircondition etc...And for the end, Seal was made to be easiest way to come from ICE to EV.
Did I say it wasn't real leather? I said it doesn't feel like it. 'Something wrong' with the driver's position? WTF? How can there be something wrong with a driving position? This video has massively brought out the bellends in the comments…
@@TimRodieDrivesStuff
Geeez you’re really taking a hammering
I think you doing a good job 👍
To sum up. It’s a PEV that is not very efficient, not particularly comfortable, bearable to look at, frustrating to drive and not cheap to buy.
The software looks third party, like a cheap tablet.
You come out with some very odd anti-ev thoughts I have to say. Why would you still want to be reviewing ICE vehicles. Not a very good opening I have to say. Here in Australia, EVs are rapidly on the rise - I am looking a buying our second EV. Petrol/Diesel are just not an option and are of no interest to me at all. I am considering the Seal. I've sat in one and the build quality is outstanding. I already have the Atto 3 and know how good they are.
Why would I still want to review ICE cars? Because 80% of the UK private market is buying ICE. And they’ll be around for years! I’m not really anti-EV, I’m just less convinced by their long-term fit for the UK market than I was a few years back. Just as you’re not interested in petrols or diesels, there are people that have the same approach to EVs. All good!
40 odd grand for something that going to keep bonging at you for all the things you’re doing wrong 😡no thanks,got the wife for that lol
It’s true of all MY24 onward cars to be fair, but in those you can turn the speed warning off… I couldn’t work out how to in the BYD
😂😆
@@TimRodieDrivesStuffas an owner it would be really easy to turn it off btw
As Tim said, it's unfortunately what automakers HAVE to do now in order to get a 5 star ANCAP rating these days. I find it actually dangerous, especially the lane keeping ADAS, which can pull you into dangerous situations. They all HAVE to have the option to turn off permanently, but it needs to come from ANCAP.
I'm not gonna lie@@GT86crazy I've genuinely found it more dangerous driving cars where you have to turn everything off when you set off but realise 10 minutes into your journey that the BONGS are still on.
BYD 🤣 I think some wee just came out.
Drive the nasty noodlebox to my house in ten years time. If you can.
Note a bad looking little car. But not too sure about it being better than the tesla.
king of what?
King of Spain
Bonging at you
@@TimRodieDrivesStuff what a shitty channel
No-one wants an iPad-based control system in a car. It's terrible design on every level - it isn't intuitive, there's no feedback, it doesn't allow 'blind' find-by-feel operation so you can keep your eyes on the road, often it doesn't even offer at-a-glance views of the current settings. As soon as car-makers put dedicated, tactile controls with individual readouts back into cars all these single-screen-based dashboards will be impossible to shift. I'd like to see car reviewers being more critical of these. Not directed at Mr Rodie of whom I'm a big fan ;)
Think you are confusing a Tesla with the BYD Seal that has indicator stalks, heads up display, direction selection physical control Tesla does not. Not to mention the fact I really don't ever need to use any of the screen for things such as seat heating or cooling as you can just say it and there is your blind feel, as you don't need to be fumbling for any control, it just does it. Tesla has everything including the speed you are doing on a single tablet, so guess you should post that comment on Tesla videos.
I'm with you when it comes to commonly used controls. They need to by physical, e.g. indicator stalks, drive mode, wipers, lights. But non essential controls like temperature control, seat heaters can and should have the option of voice command. Lucky the Seal has pretty decent voice command recognition, which Tim didn't seem to test...
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What is it about EVs bringing out the whackjobs in the comments?!
So.... It is basically a crap tesler then... Certainly looks a lot like one to me. I will stick with my Fabia for a little longer I think.. hahahaha
It's not a Tesla at all. This is the most negative review I've seen of it. I know nothing of the car but this is the first complaint I've seen about ride quality or room or anything. Another British publication picked it over the newly refreshed Model 3 and thought the ride was better and also that it was built better.
@@benjaminsmith2287
I’m glad Tim will point out the negatives, as the annoyances often become the enduring memory of a car!
The motoring press often ignore glaring issues, which they then admit to later in the vehicle lifecycle.
It’s really annoying to drive a car, immediately realise some design, or dynamics issue ruin it to own.
Dude, you're spouting the standard media FUD and inaccuracies. Have we inadvertently stumbled into a paid sponsorship?
Oh god the Americans are here
You’ll be saying “do your own research” next
Rubbish review lol
I would say this guy hates all Chinese cars. Can’t see the wood for the trees. Just do another Tesla review mate. Clown review unfortunately.
Not at all! “This guy” has nothing against Chinese cars and reviews all cars fairly. If you read all the other comments apparently I’ve been sent by the Chinese government to control your thoughts with my hypnotic jacket
Ps I’ve never done a Tesla review on this channel hun x
Chinese crap, they have no clue in compare to Tesla or Rivian
Stop riding Tesla bro
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