The BYD Seal is a lot cheaper than the Tesla Model 3 here in Australia. I can't believe how much is being charged for the Seal in the UK. The Seal is a brilliant car - we're very happy with our purchase.
But in Australia you are forced to "service" the BYD. Depending on how much you drive the BYD can be more expensive than the Tesla over a period of 5 years
I’ve owned an AWD Performance Seal for 2 months it costs less than a RWD 3 here in Thailand. Fantastic car, great performance, luxury, refinement and no squeaks or rattles. You can access heated/cooled seats by dragging down from the top of the screen. The sunroof is silver coated and does a much better job than Teslas at reflecting heat. I have the V2L hooked up to my solar system to provide backup power to my house (videos on my channel for the doubters)
I’m sure the BYD is a great car but in the UK it starts at £5k more than the model 3 standard range which makes no sense ,fair enough the long range BYD seal is £1300 cheaper than the long range model 3 but from what I can see people are willing to pay that little bit more for the Tesla long range,the model 3 over here is a no brainer and pre-orders now are nearly 2 month waiting list so sales are very strong.
@@alancobbinFunny, cause everwhere else in the EU they are in stock and can be delivered within 2 weeks (Hint: They are not selling the amount they are shipping out).
C: Too many warning sounds! BYD: Ok, I heard you. C: I don't like the logo behind the car! BYD: Ok, no problem. C: Lower the price! BYD: Sorry, your government doesn't allow me to do this.
Actually the price thing is rubbish. In Europe the BYD is also more expensive for the base version. It is a pricing choice and the dealership could lower it as it is a suggested price. They choose not to. And say it is because it is the first issue.
Remember that China has far worse import taxes than western countries do. Remember very carefully who is the trading bully on the world stage. It's china if you look at all the barriers China has setup.
Cant go wrong with either, kind of like Merc vs BMW in the early 2000s, more comfort or more driving pleasure. Kind of silly BYD priced it so expensive in UK, not sure if it tariff thing, because in Australia Seal is 5-10K usd cheaper than the Base Model Tesla.
It's expensive because of extra tariffs they give to Chinese products, you know since your daddy USA does not like more advanced products from other countries especially the ones that are independent from USA colonial empire of lies and mental illness but hey at least you get ford EV and you can buy overpriced apple, good for u
In two months time, BYD will launch the standard range version of the Seal on the EU market. This version will be cheaper than the Telsa Model 3 SR and have a slightly bigger battery.
Import tax of 10% (on vehicle price and transportation cost) and sales tax of 20% on top of the import tax are standard for all cars imported into the EU. @@tashiyann3262
I've been reading about the regen on the Seal and it seems like they've implemented the regen through the brake pedal. When the pedal is first pressed it engages strong regen and blends the brakes in as needed. It appears this was aimed at people switching from ICE cars. It really is a matter of preference though, I'm on the side of what BYD have implemented to have more control of the car.
Same as in the Toyota CHR Hybrid we used to have. All Prius does as well. And I can confirm it is terrible in many ways. Tesla brake pads and discs on the other hand can last a lifetime
@@borinvlogs good to know, I came across info that this type of system can be more efficient than one pedal but can't recall where I saw that. I test drove the Seal and it felt completely normal to me that's why I recon it's going to be up to personal preference. Would be nice if BYD introduced an option for one pedal to suit all audiences 👌
Can't wait to test drive the BYD Seal in my country, will most likely be getting one next year. The quality and design of the BYD just looks more refined and better than the Tesla. Also BYD have the worlds safest EV Blade Batteries in the world.
@@amrindersingh3949 Well, so does Tesla and other EV cars, its just a unfortunate byproduct of Batteries. Although BYD have made it safer and will continue to do so.
The Model Y RWD from Berlin uses the same BYD blade battery. I'm not sure, but I think so does the Model 3 from China. In the US they use CATL blade for the LFP batteries.
Test drove SEAL in Australia over the weekend...Quite, Comfortable with excellent interior and driver ergonomics and driving dynamics. The minimalist approach of TESLA 3 is going to cost them "new" customers, coming from petrol and hybrid cars well used to buttons, indicators, head up displays and Apple car play and android auto. A driver still needs to feel in control, a driving pleasure. Overall, I think BYD wins on ride, buttons with phone integration and a strong design language. Tesla stays strong on charging network and a faster charging, I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla brings back some of it's lost functions in coming years
One thing to take into consideration is the updates you get with a Tesla. The BYD infotainment will be dated in 2 years whereas the Tesla will still be updated in 5 years and look relevant. (Check the Tesla infotainment 3 years ago and compare it to now). Also Tesla may not be in the best financial state, but it will likely stays around in the coming years, you can't say the same for Chinese's brands. Last point is the efficiency of the Tesla, in the coming years it will probably cost more to charge a car than to simply put fuel in it, so you may want the most efficient one. The BYD is not a bad, but it's a bet to buy one.
I would guess that Giga Shanghai is already planning to add back those stalks, for the non US markets. A great car ruined by such a silly idea. There will be many Tesla owners who will now look elsewhere for their second EV and you can bet this stupid feature will stop any new buyers joining the Tesla family. I love my Telsa Model 3 (with stalks) but many people were already turned off by the minimalist interior, the missing stalks will be the last nail in the coffin.
@@22EpicBYD not going anywhere since they are making more than just passenger cars. BYD is one of the market leaders in BE bus and trucks. Tesla signed deal for Blade batteries and other automakers are following.
byd is the world's largest electric bus manufacturer, the world's second-largest battery manufacturer, sells far more cars than Tesla, and supplies batteries to Tesla factories. In addition, BYD is the only manufacturer in the world that is fully capable of producing all components of EV (except glass and tires), including the main chips required.
@@specialkcitizen6263 Yes, but as they also build approx. half the ipads the world is in love with, I suspect (especially after viewing here on YT) OTA updates will address and fix things quickly (The most recent introduced 3 finger instant climate control for both temp and fans for the screen) Early Tesla's were terrible also, it's just everyone has now forgotten that 'water under the bridge' and compares this brand new car to a well established product that's been around for years ironing out its creases.
@@lucisleesion8824 I think it's exactly the opposite I think the seal already looks really dated and the Tesla is modern and fresh - each to their own tastes I guess.
I think the BYD Seal will be a lot easier for ICE drivers to move to. The Tesla is just too minimalist for most people. Having said that, they've both out of reach for the average buyer, but will be OK in a couple of years when they halve in price 😂
EV are actually cheaper compared to similar powered ICE cars. My car is as fast as Lamborghini or Ferrari on pubic road for a friction of the price of a supercar.
@@borinvlogsbut most only need the performance and interior space of a Honda Jazz and would be happy to have the EV advantages (no gearshifting, silence, preheat, charging at home) at a similar price of a used car. That will still take >5 years until cheap good electric cars are everywhere and the used market isn't as crap anymore.
Given that an ICE car has a short shelf life, you will find they will lose 75% after 2 years. Who would want to buy an ICE car that is going to lose all its value in 2 years? when it gets to 4 years old - in 2028 its scrap value, you wont be able to sell it.
I honestly thing the new insicator position will eventually rear it's head and become a legal issue for them........the same way Autopilot has in the States.
Been owning my Model 3 Highland for 2 months now. With both hands on the steering wheel, I experience no problem with this operation. Have lots of round abouts where I live, so I have had plenty of time testing. It all comes down to your seating, hand and finger position - after some training, it’s a deal breaker for me: I will never go back to stalks! 🙂 Please try before expressing plain feelings…😉
@@p3tT4n1 It's a bit like MacBooks a few years back. They removed all the ports and left you with a couple of USB C. Apple said it's all people need. Fast forward a couple of years and Apple re-introduced charging ports, HDMI and SD card slots. Tesla will go the same way and bring back the stalks!
@@ninjarrow07 Indeed! 9-3, the same way a professional racing car driver would hold his/her hands, is the optimal way for controlling your car, which also happens to be the best way to do when using Teslas indicators. Works great for me.
@@ottowillumnielsen9083 but the BYD has no long term reliability test and we dont know how the service is. Its a big Risk buying the BYD while i know from 10+ people in my direct surrounding that they almost have zero problems with their Tesla's. And constantly get proper updates. So the reliability is there. We dont know anything about the BYD. So tell me why would i risk my hard earned cash money on something unproven. While i can get the Tesla where they have proven reliability and efficiency.
im mexican 33, and living in mexico. in my city of chinesca, mexico... BYD put 4 car factories in less than 2 years. the people are so happy cuzz the chinese gave 1000's of us mexicans jobs, which we never had before. plus, they sell great cars at very low prices, so us mexicans can all buy new BYD cars. but the main reason why china put many car plants in mexico, so they can enter the USA markets via the backdoors by mexico. very soon floods of chinese cars will in the states, yes, floods of chinese cars. however, this is a good thing, cuzz all car companies will have to lower their prices. this is a win win for all the people. thank you china & its wonderful people. bravo! bravo!
No, Chinese people don't want to sell cars to Americans. Some foolish companies that want to sell (love money and take risks) don't represent smart companies like BYD. Chinese people are very pragmatic and don't want America to go crazy.
Drive in roudabout country NL, took me a month to get used to the new indicators. When it is a small roundabout I use my right hand to press the bottom button to exit. Sometimes I use the stalks in the other car, but it feels strange now. The indicators kind off feel more natural.
That's the thing about most humans: We have the ability to learn and to adapt to new situations. But there are those who never made the transition from the pin to the button - or from the button to the zipper...
53k miles on a M3, extended test drive on the BYD Seal. The BYD is definitely a more comfortable car to travel in with great quality materials and ride comfort and sound insulation. I also think the BYD looks a bit better. The cabin and the seats are top quality and the exterior is also really nice, looks even better in person. But the M3 (even the old one) is just a bit more fun to drive. Its direct and darty (which I like) charges WAY faster, has the network and also a very large service network. The BYD is in its infancy, driving 100 miles to a service centre at the moment isnt ideal....UI wise the Teslas are also miles ahead. Menus make sense and are intuitive and grouped properly ie Climate/Display/Controls etc. The BYD has a bit of everything everywhere. Menus, pull downs, side swipes. That being said the Seals central screen is something special its so large and so crisp when navigating its a joy. Its also worth noting according BYD any Seals shipped before March come with the indicator on the right stalk and wipers on the left. My test car had this and was a nightmare to adjust to. Apparently the norm in other right drive markets. It also has the most aggressive lane departure system Ive ever seen (Even more aggressive than the MG4). Even an few inches left or right of centre it was dragging you all over the place. Can be turned off no doubt but needs adjusting. Id deffo still recommend it but I think it still needs some maturity and bug ironing to make it a sure thing. Most of that can be done through software so should be easy. Credit to them though honestly it rides as well a C Class/3 Series maybe even a smidgeon better. There arent many EVs that can do that. The new Tesla indicator is a no go for me too 🤣 the New M3 ups its quality considerably but not enough to tempt me for one either... so I'll be hanging on to my old M3 for now. If anyone has one, that would be my advice, especially if like me you still have ultrasonic sensors 🤣 (If you know you know....)
@@nifty6486 Still in its infancy and nowehere near accurate enough, also still cant see in front of the car..was more a joke about the USS being retro 🙂
Well its great to see the Model 3 has a worthy competitor now! If I was buying now, I would certainly take a Seal for a test drive - although I would miss the one pedal driving (once you get used to the one pedal driving, its hard to go back as I find it more relaxing and efficient). Agree the removal of the stalks on the Tesla is a backward step, even if you do get used to it, its still not as good. As it is I have a 2022 Model 3 RWD, which has the stalks, so I'm more than happy to stick with it (as the stalk delete cancels the many benefits of the Highland for me)!
Yes the stalk delete would be fine, if the new Model 3 had steer by wire like the cybertruck. That means you don't have to fully rotate the steering wheel and then the buttons make sense. Now its a bit annoying, by the way i also own a 2022 model 3 RWD.
100% agree. If steer by wire was implemented, would make more sence to remove the stalks. The other “improvements” they made feels like more gimmicks than actual improvements
I am so with Ginny; the indicator buttons on the steering wheel are frustratingly awful - I hate it! And it gets even worse on the yoke, as you can't feed it as easilly arround with both hands. Every round-about becomes an indicator nightmare. And I do think that Nicola is right about the Tesla being more robot than car. It is very good at what it is doing, but with a complete lack of enjoyment to it. Styling-wise, it is nice but not interesting. - And the fart-noises... give me a break. If it was animal-noises like a chimp, cat or a dog, then maybe I would find that somewhat amusing, but fart-noises... I am not 5 years anymore. Apart from Teslas supercharger network, I think the BYD is the more attractive option here; looks better and seems to be more involving to drive - not to mention it got a real indicator stalk. BTW, I do think the general Electrfying audience is informed enough of EVs in general to have heard of BYD before. I saw my first one ten years ago: a taxi at the Barcelona Airport, and the Atto 3 has become such a massive hit here in Sweden even my parents (who are not into cars at all) know what a BYD is.
Car designed in California........they don't really use roundabouts in the USofA (or as they say.......traffic circles) A design oversight if ever there was one.
Having had my Tesla 3 go into one of their centres twice because the speedometer disappeared off the infotainment screen when being driven and then went into a hard re-set multiple times there is too much of an emphasis with functions on the infotainment screen. Now they seem have put the gear selector on the infotainment screen and the gear selector on the steering wheel. With the problem i had i would have been stuffed in selecting a gear if the infotainment screen was blank. With BYD in the UK now and Nio probably coming soon the range of choice of ev's is increasing and more to consider. The only thing in the Tesla's favour is the super charger network.
I liked the review a lot but I think that you just aren't that aware of how far advanced Tesla is over any electric car at the moment. All the cameras, sentry mode, dashcam, autopilot with all its features, one pedal driving, collision avoidance front and back as it tries to avoid that car that will hit you from behind and the front, it tightens your seatbelts before the crash. High fidility park assist, Tesla's Google maps, navigation system is far superior as it also calculates how many people are going to the charging station during your long trips. Display at the back with their own bluetooth connection. None of this is present in the BYD. Putting it into analogy, it's as if BYD is Android and Tesla is iPhone.
Yes cars very hard to compare now. M3 has no sensors though and cameras can’t perform all the required features yet so some are off at the moment, no? BYD has Birds Eye View for example.
Tesla is a Chinese startup to boost US economy due to the trade deficit. BYD supplies all the parts or shares the patent. In a nutshell, Tesla is the first Chinese EV to hit the global market.
The reason why BYD doesn't offer 1-Pedal driving is because the majority of the drivers simply don't like this feature. It feels unnatural to most people. I am sure after getting used to it, more people might be OK with this feature. BYD did actually incorporate the regenerative braking benefit of "1-Pedal Driving" into the braking system itself. In the BYD Seal, the regen kicks in when you first step on the brake pedal. The actual friction braking will eventually take over if the braking force required exceeds the regen capability. BYD's system works flawlessly. The ultimate goal is to recuperate as much kinetic energy as possible, and the regenerative braking system in the BYD Seal achieves this efficiently. All drivers are used to "coasting" as a natural part of driving. BYD wanted to preserve this feeling, and I am so glad they did that. One of BYD's major goal has always been to make the transition from ICE cars to EVs as seamless as possible. That's why they outsell all their competitors in China by a huge margin (including Tesla).
I just don't understand why BYD can't offer One Pedal Driving as a software option. You just go into vehicle settings and select the Regen tab and select the level which suits you - the driver - the best. This way, everyone wins. Those who would like greater Regen can have this easily whilst those who are not that keen on the feature, can chose little or no regenerative braking. After driving a Tesla Model Y, I definitely know which I level I would set.
@@franktongzi1430 My regular daily driver is a Tesla but we also have ICE cars in the family - once you get used to 1 pedal driving it's fantastic, I actually detest having to get back into an ICE car without it - it just feels wrong now not to have it. There is a second pedal BTW.
Test drove both and preferred the Seal it's more like an ICE vehicle and straight away everything is familiar, bought the Seal Performance and loving it!!
A nice and useful review. However, you didn't mention the sound system in either car! Model 3 has had a great reputation for a nice sound system. Does the latest version still have that? And, how does the Seal compare? Also, can you play music from a USB stick? All Teslas had a data ready usb port for this until they removed them a couple years ago. Does the Seal have such a port? I switched from a 2022 Model S to a 2023 BMW i4 so I could continue to play my music library from a USB stick.
I have never been in the Tesla......but I can tell you that the Dynaudio system in the BYD is rather good............and yes, it has a data port with a native media player. The quality of the Audio in a car would also be a deal breaker for me.
You can still play music from a USB on a newer Model 3, but it requires some trickery. If you're comfortable with computers, you could replace the sentry USB stick in the glovebox with a larger device, ideally a "real" SSD (which use higher quality flash memory that's far more durable than any USB stick). Connect it to a computer and format it with two partitions, one for sentry and another for music. Or you can connect a hub in the glovebox USB port, use one port for the sentry USB stick and another for your music. Tesla explicitly advises against this, however. Finally there are aftermarket USB port modules for the centre console which give you more ports including one which supports data connections.
@@sjwright2 I actually tried the USB hub approach in my Model Y but couldnt get it to work. My solution was to insert my music USB where the sentry stick normally is, and just live without sentry mode. The other approaches you mention are above my pay grade. I am not happy with Tesla since the bean counters took over and are saving a few pennies by putting a power only usb in the center console where there used to be a data ready usb in prior years. This is analogous to Tesla saving some money by removing the turn signal and shifter stalks. I am not a fan of those changes either.
@@wilber8260...people have mobil phones with lots of storage and bluetooth... can create music directory with flac (or some higher quality mp3) on the phone... or use some higher quality streaming service... like TheJazzGroove or even Deezer premium and the likes... i used to use those usb sticks to carry music to the car, but i abandoned it years ago and connect with bluetooth...
I think this has to be one of the best videos since I subscribed many months ago. A more real world review with two different driver personalities and preferences. I agree with Ginny that Tesla has gone a tad too far with cost cutting on physical switches. Buttons for indicators are fine on a motorbike but not in a car, keep the fart sound though. I've no idea about how the wipers and screen wash are activated, if it's though the central screen or just auto wipers with wet salt on the roads I'd be a tad concerned about ending up with my teeth in a tree. When it's wet and salty on the roads I want manual control that's easy to use. Once again a cracking video both and thanks for sharing.
What a great review. None of the BS about 0-60 times and drag races. Just a lot of practical comparisons on things that would affect everyday driving. I have just had the chance to sit in the Seal and inspect the interior and have a play around with the infotainment and controls. As a current Tesla Model 3 owner I was quite impressed. The seats are firmer but more supportive, and the HVAC system is much better. It is let down slightly by the lower resolution displays compared to the Tesla. How much would it really add to the cost to put a better quality display in the Seal? Since the new (highland) version of the Model 3 was unveiled, I have been taking note of how often I use both the indicator stalk (including the washer/wiper button on the end) and the direction mode selector (gear stalk) in my current Model 3, without looking. I just know intuitively where the controls are. By the same token, the scroll wheels on the Model 3 steering wheel fall easily under your thumb and don’t require you to look for them like the buttons on the ‘conventional’ steering wheel of the Seal. I struggled with the lack of driver’s display in the Tesla so much, I have fitted an aftermarket HUD. Seriously considering changing my Model 3 for a Seal next year. While the Supercharger network is good, 95% of my charging is at home.
@@lucisleesion8824 The Seal hass slightly faster 0-60 than the M3 LR but the LR makes it up for a faster acceleration beyond 60 miles or 100km for a faster 1/4 mile. Both cars cost the same 50,000 pounds. Btw the M3 LR is better everywhere not just 1/4 mile. It is more practical with better build quality, better charging infrastructure and more reliable as well. It is also a more advanced vehicle having access to Tesla's FSD beta and all kinds of features for the future
@@ulikemyname6744 The tesla does not have higher build quality rather the opposite. Its also got more roadnoise compared to the seal even the highland version. Sure it got some advantages but not build quality and materials.
@@UgglemannenFTW When it comes to material quality Tesla now has the advantage. As for build quality, Tesla pushed hard with the refresh, make the manufacturing more efficient and the overall quality increased significantly to a point where it doesn't matter anymore.
In terms of the lack of stalks in the new Teslas, I don't have an issue with the gear selector being on the screen, but I also do not like the steering wheel buttons. I think they jumped the gun on that and those buttons should only be paired with cars with drive by wire like the Cybertruck. If I'm going to get a next generation Tesla that will all have indicator buttons on the steering wheel, it will have to be with steer by wire.
I hope regulations are coming to make an indicator stock obligatory. It is just not safe in a country with roundabouts. All safety related items should always be in a familiar position imho, what's next, removing the brake panel and go to full one panel driving? Or place the brake in a button on the steering wheel.
I probably know the reason for it, is that the development team for the steer by wire for the Model 3 wasn't finished but the steering wheel itself was and the deletion of the stalks. Sadly that probably didn't sync up and you have this. WHen you have steer by wire it all makes sense. (Look at how steer by wire works at the cybertruck.)
@@deejac9065Nah the solution for it is steer by wire. (In which you don't have to fully rotate the steering wheel like a normal wheel.) Go look it up how it works, the cybertruck has it.
@HermanWillems Again another item which should be thought of more thoroughly. What if all systems fail for whatever reason, you always should be left with safety controls; brake, steering, and door open. Although they might lose power, if you press the brake, you build up hydraulic pressure and slow down. The same goes for steering, although heavy, you can always steer yourself away from danger.
One of the heavy criticism of BYD Atto3 by this channel was the lack of physical switch, and for Tesla with zero switch, the comment is “you have to lean to use it”, lol.
BYD seal will be launching soon in Malaysia and we expect it to be much cheaper than Tesla Model 3 Highland. Tesla won on supercharger, quicker accercelation and hype. BYD parts is cheaper for future considerations.😂
Seal has done ENCAP this uear. Pre facelift Tesla did the NCAPin 2019 so can't really compare because the standards were quite a bit tougher when the Seal was tested. Both got 5* for their respective years though
Don't really know how long you have driven the new model 3, but I can tell you out of experience that the stalks thing is not as big of a deal as it is being made out to be. After using them for a couple of weeks muscle memory takes over and it all goes automatically. Even things like roundabouts are no problem at all. I'm not saying it is a good design choice, it's just not as big of a deal as some people are making you believe it is.
Not sure if you noticed this during the test drive of the seal, I did yesterday on my second test drive trying to decide between this and the IONIC 6, I accidently whilst trying to lean forward to pick up a sweet which i put on the charging pad for safe keeping managed to knock the car out of drive at 25mph, why is this possible, i can do it in the tesla m3 we have but i can in the seal, not sure if it would go all the way to R but this needs to be addressed in an update where you cant change drive mode when going over say +_5 mph
I would have loved to see the Sentry mode, Dog mode or entertainment options like UA-cam Netflix autopilot and its phone app plus games and rear screen and safety ratings on the BYD to see how they compare.
6:23 Weird. I saw another review and they said the BYD materials felt very cheap compared to the Tesla. Also the display(s) get partially hidden by the steering wheel. You can change the gears on the roof of the Tesla. The buttons are hidden between the interior lights. Initially designed for when the display doesn't work.
I saw a review mentioning i too (whatcar I think) - but that review was very superficial. But thats the odd one out. Almost all other reviews, Ive looked, commend the Seal for the build and feel.
Yes, that was the recent "WhatCar" propeganda film.........(sponsored by Tesla or just made by a trio of Teslarati 🙄) I have driven the Seal and I can tell you the qualty of interior material and build quality is right up there with (almost) the best that Europe can offer.
People can check out the interior of both the Tesla and BYD Seal them self and then see the reviewer you watched either were hired to "review it" or simply own Tesla stocks which is the case for quite a few.
Looks like a great car from BYD, sadly lacking a charging infrastructure which is a huge part of the Tesla offering. Their name is actually nothing to do with dreams it was originally Yadi Electronics Bi was added to give them an advantage in location in trade shows but I guess Bi-Yadi dreams just doesn’t sound as good to us westerners !
In China they called this BYD car also Burn Your Dreams because so many BYD cars most likely with NCM went up in flames. The new blade batteries however i think are good, but have lower energy density than CATL LFP cells which are technically better than BYD LFP cells.
@@HermanWillems I really like the car but without a dedicated charging network where the price is set by BYD then it’s either a small battery version for City dwellers plus a much larger battery ensuring users can travel from home to destination and back again without needing the hugely expensive Fast-Charger network. I guess about 450 to 550 miles would make it the same as the ICE vehicle it replaces, home charging would be a must to avoid the rip off costs here in the UK for using the likes of Shell or Ionity etc. The only reasonably priced super chargers being Tesla who own, operate and set their own pricing which is much more realistically priced when comparing the cost per Kw of energy right now….and it can only go down in price
Great to be able to read feedback from China. What would we do without Google translate! 😁 Those are all valid points in my opinion and the reason why I'm choosing the Seal. It's funny that you said other Chinese manufacturers find BYDs infotainment as a tragedy 😂 well put. I'm hoping they can greatly improve the system over the next short while to match that of other manufacturers.
They said they were both similar It is still the same old same old. Advertised 310 mile range and you get 250 miles in Winter. I dont have any range anxiety My last car was an ICE and I would top up when it got to half tank. It is the same with my current EV - top up when I get to half tank. The EV does give an accurate range in miles. The petrol tank in an ICE car is just too inaccurate.
Test drove the BYD and hated it. OK I currently drive a model 3 and love the minimal styling. BYD seems so cluttered. I didn't like the ride, the whining noise at low speed, the constant nagging lane keeping, the laggy screen. The front view with those vents I think looks awful. Still reviews like this made me give the BYD a test drive so now I have an informed opinion. I can now get my new model 3 in February without any worries. Also would someone please do a model 3 review without spending half theme talking about indicator stalks. It will take about 2 days to get used to it.
Test drove both - the AWD Seal is just a better, more comfortable drive and is quicker. Style and experience is subjective, Tesla’s all look bland and basically exactly the same to me, the Seal looks more sporty. The screen is better quality in the M3 though undoubtedly. Lots of 3rd party apps you can add to the Seal though through exploits but would likely invalidate warranty.
Tesla say minimalism, i say cost cutting to the point of almost being dangerous to drive with the frequency you have to take your eyes off the road and the lack of parking sensors was a big No!! For me.
How does either car get round the legislation on fiddling with the central display considering you're not allowed to alter sat nav, or mobiles while driving. As an older driver I struggle to re adjust focal length quickly enough, and as pointed out the indicators whilst lock turning
Auto pilot helps a lot in this regard. If you need to fiddle having the auto pilot keeps you centred and slows down if cars ahead slow down for the odd second that you're tinkering with the controls. (I don't mean avoid looking for mammoth sessions but the couple seconds that's required in until you get used to it.) You could also just use voice assistance
All the things you need to do while driving are on physical buttons. A lot of things are completely automatic and the car operates these things well. The only thing that you might feel like fiddling with while driving is the heating. Generally set to automatic it maintains a comfortable temperature. The control to increase and decrease temperature is at the bottom of the screen and after a while muscle memory takes you to it. Alternatively, this is what I do a lot, push the right hand steering wheel control and say “temperature 22”. Works a treat and safer than buttons.
From the Highway Code Rule 149 "You MUST NOT use a hand-held mobile phone, or similar device, capable of interactive communication (such as a tablet) for any purpose when driving or when supervising a learner driver." The law specifies a hand held device not devices fixed into the car.
Nothing comes close to the Tesla charging infrastructure. It's by far the cheapest and easiest to use. Not to mention how unreliable many of the other cargers are.
I agree with you Ginny...indicator buttons on the steering wheel are ridiculous...I would go so far as to say downright dangerous. As for no binnacle or head up display...the same, dangerous, if you have to take your eyes off the road to see the Speedo...well I'm not even sure that's legal! As you can tell I am officially an old fogey having turned sixty-five this year!😅 Did you actually state the prices of both, think I missed it? Great show, good vibes from you two.👍
I don't get the big deal about the lack of "binnacle" moving your eyes slightly down and left if really not much different to moving them down to a binnacle.... sure it is a change but once you adapt it no different.... . I guess it is big deal for first time drivers but once you drive a Tesla every day it really is not. The reviewer comically moving her head to the left is just for show, not a reality.
@@djsslater that's fine but wearing glasses makes the head movement just slightly more. Not dissimilar to the movement required for nearside (UK) wing mirror agreed but after forty five years of just dropping ones eyes down for speed info it's a difficult and unnecessary adjustment. There's also the fact that it's a bright screen which requires more refocussing after you've looked at it. Not for me, but then I did say I was old!
Tesla is cheaper across the board. More efficient, and even when non Tesla car use the Tesla network, they get charged a non Tesla premium. So I think Tesla will likely hold this advantage unless governments step in or the other manufacturers make their own charger networks or deals with existing companies.
The drive selector is also above you by the rear view mirror. Agree on the stalks though, that will out so many people off buying one or replacing their existing M3 with one.
Yes, I think a lot of reviewers aren't aware of the "emergency selector buttons" on the roof in case the screen fails. They are also an option if you don't like the slider thing on the screen I guess.
Interesting to note that in Australia there are 3 versions, the Dynamic, the Premium and the dual motor AWD version of the Seal instead of the 2 in the UK. The Dynamic (entry model has a 61Kwh battery and is RWD only and sells at just over A$48,000. The Premium and the AWD versions have 85Kwh batteries with the Premium RWD version having roughly 60 Km more range than the dual motor AWD version. The Premium is also around A$10,000 less expensive than the AWD version, selling at just over A$58,000.
It's a bit of a BYD commercial. If it was cheaper, I would understand but why? They BYD is more for people's first dive into electric that want the confort of knowing that things have not changed much. The Tesla is more for people that want the future now.
If the BYD was cheaper, it would be a contender. But nobody in their right mind would pay more for it. As an overall package of a 'car', it competes - but as an 'electric car' (charger availability / charging speed / route planner integration / efficiency), Tesla are still head and shoulders above everyone else.
It literally takes 2 minutes to get used to the gearshifting in the Tesla, and you get used to the turn buttons. And I think the Tesla looks a lot simpler and better, the range and infrastructure is also better.
I tried the Ioniq6, Seal and P2 and the Tesla won me straight away. By FAAAR the best technical system, less cluster and the most simple to use. The Seal, Ioniq and P2 are also more expensive and more expensive to run. The new Tesla is also quiet and the suspension is great.
I have the new Tesla, the capacitive buttons take a little getting used to, but 200km and no problems. Auto cancel works 95%of the time but so far even on UK roads no problem with signalling coming off roundabouts. Shifting is easy and use the atu select and that works 95% of the time. Latest update has massively improved parking visualisation. Over the last 1801 miles my average is 4.12miles/kW and that so far is driving primarily in the UK for the last 2 weeks. And 600 mile journey dead simple with the Tesla superchargers. I looked at the BYD and noisier, softer, more expensive for the base model. (I got the RWD version of the Tesla) 262 miles in general per day covers all my needs and the 600 mile journey added 1 hour and that was because I needed to arrive with 70% charge as there was no destination charge until the following day. This was my first Ev and I think it was a good choice, though I do agree that the BYD does look nicer outside. 😊
@@DBGE001 I had more of an issue with getting it delivered. The quality is very good certainly as good as the Mercedes cla that just went back to the lease Company. Despite being told it wouldn't come with charging cables or mats etc as it was just the RWD version it came with the gen 2 tesla charger and a type 2 cable and mats throughout. I've driven it just shy of 2000 miles in the last 2 weeks and not a rattle or squeek in sight.
A fair and decent review. However I would be surprised if the efficiency in cold weather would be as good as you claim. I see an over 20% drop in efficiency in cold weather in my Genesis Electrified G80....
Yes it does have a heat pump which kicks in when you select a charger as your destination, or so I believe! I am certainly experiencing the range degradation that cold weather brings to an EV. In the summer driving in France at the faster max speed -130kmh (81mph), I could easily achieve 300 miles if I ran the battery down to close to 10%, the same journey a couple of weeks ago, it would be more like 220 miles range. Whilst here in the UK on typical variable speed limit motorways - so 50 60 or 70mph in warm Weather would easily see 3.5 or higher miles per kWh. However Genesis like its parent companies EV's offer upto 350 per kwh charging speeds, although i've never seen that in reality...
Even if the car has a heatpump, you must know that every EV has also a resistance heating element (yes also the EV's with a heatpump). This element is typically used to get the car interior up to temperature in a fast (but energy carnivorous) way. @@keithshayle7027
@@06younger It's not IF it has a heatpump. But also the correct efficient implementation of it. The implementation and efficiency is where the Tesla shines and outperforms everything else in the car space. It's the best HVAC system in the automotive industry.
How about really slow manovres, like car park manovres with vehicles behind you etc. Not every situation requires you to indicate at top dead centre. Real world isn't necessarily that simply arranged. If it was such a brilliant concept then everyone would have copied Ferrari years ago, they didn't for a reason.
A lot of drivers just want a car that works. So maybe that’s the reason for Tesla popularity. They just work and like you said if you’re getting an EV there’s no other car brand that will make that transition easier than a Tesla
For using fast charges yes. But charging at home is the same. But then there's the user interface. It's a big departure from what people are used to. Sometimes for no good reason. As long as they insist on those few dumb ideas, they won't appeal to average people. Not if they have a choice of a more familiar car.
Most cars have indicators. This is an easy transition from a BMW or an Audi, but for people that actually use their indicators this is definitely not an easy transition
@@Alberto-mq7gw there’s definitely a lot of features in the car but just like a new smartphone, people can see what they need to use then leave the rest.
@@Uchejnr Yes, but they definitely need to use the indicators, the windshield wipers, the gear selector or the steering wheel. Those things are critical in the user interface of a car and you can't change them arbitrarily. Well, apparently you can, legally speaking, but it's disrespectful and even dangerous. Tesla is getting away with it for two main reasons: 1, because it appeals to some techies. 2, because some people still don't have a choice if they have to road trip often or depend on public chargers. But ultimately it will have to decide to either ditch these dumb decisions or stay as a niche brand.
0:00: 🚗 Comparison between the Tesla Model 3 and the BD Seal electric car, with a unique feature of indicator buttons. 3:24: 🚗 The video discusses the design and features of the Tesla Model Y. 6:52: 🚗 The video is a review of a car's interior features and functionality compared to a Tesla. 14:20: 🚗 The video is a review of a car, focusing on its performance and features. 17:23: 🚗 The reviewer expresses their love for the comfort of the car and discusses the changes made to its sound. 20:58: ⚡ Comparison of charging speeds and efficiency between Tesla and other car models. Recap by Tammy AI
As someone who was weighing up the Model 3 Highland and Seal Performance for a long time it came right down to test driving a Model 3 for my decision to be made. I’ve now owned my Seal Performance for almost 2wks and basically my thoughts echo Ginny and Nicola’s to a tee. In Australia the Seal is priced significantly less than the Euro and UK markets and in a lot of reviews I’ve seen from those markets, the Seal’s high pricing has been its biggest negative but it’s great to finally see an objective review instead of the typical Tesla bias in a lot of reviews. This video has certainly triggered many Tesla fans!!
@@newbris I test drove the Model 3 RWD and LR for 45mins each. There’s absolutely no doubts there’s a huge upgrade over the previous Model 3 and does everything better. The main talking point is obviously the stalk removal. Gave them a good workout in varying scenarios and while they weren’t really an issue and it took minimal time to get use to them there were times where they were simply an inconvenience and these situations can’t be avoided based simply on hand/wheel positioning. Ride comfort and cabin noise improvements are certainly noticeable on smooth roads but still got some noise at highway speeds. The main issue but not really an issue given it’s in beta was the auto-gear selector. Only got to try it a few times but on a couple of occasions it made the wrong selection and if you were none-the-wiser it could be a rather ominous outcome. I have seen previous videos where Tesla Vision has grossly misjudged objects and measurements so hopefully there’s improvements there. The other things I’m not a big fan of: gear selection on the centre screen, exterior looks, everything on the centre screen and completely minimalist look and feel. Overall I was impressed with the upgraded Model 3 but ultimately, I still prefer the look of both the interior and exterior of the Seal and for the money, I still can’t go past it. The (Tesla) RWD in my preferred config would be $70K ($64K after the rebate) and the LR would be $80K while the Seal Performance is $72K.
I spent a long time mulling over both options and have (or had) a deposit on and test drove both: I preferred the tm3 throttle response which I found to be instant, the seal had some delay (I was in sports mode for both) The seal cannot compete with Tesla sentry mode, if you’ve used it before you’ll know what you’re missing. The seal in my country does not ship with a dash cam. The Dealer suggested I buy a 3rd party dashcam Premium connectivity for relatively unlimited UA-cam Netflix streaming when travelling with the kids vs a 2gb data cap on the seal (albeit free), my head hit the roof in the rear seat of the seal, not so the m3 (I’m 6’4), seal performance is 7k more expensive than the m3lr. (Shouldn’t it be the other way around being the challenger) What I liked from the seal - imo slightly better driving position, heads up display (note that I couldn’t get the steering wheel in a position I liked with out obscuring the second display), vtl, tow rating of 1500kg. vs 1000kg on the Tesla. On balance going I’ll be going ahead with the M3 long range due to driving dynamics and software, 7k cheaper. Very close call though.
When I first viewed the video, I thought it is biased. Test driven a single motor Model 3 Highland and a Seal premium back to back this morning , and I must say I could not agree more with the comments and conclusions after the sessions. The ride quality and the user interaction interface of the Tesla are pathetic and lacks that of the Seal. Unfortunately Tesla Perth disable the lane keep, cruise control of the test car and so was unable to see how well it works though I was all along under the impression that it would be much better than the BYD. But until the Tesla Perth centre wise up and put their best foot forward in the competition, I have completely written off the Tesla. In Australia, it is a no brainer which car to buy. The Tesla is priced higher than the Seal!!
Drove a middle range Seal yesterday and believe it will suit nearly everyone. Tesla has great technology but too minimalistic for me, particularly the indicators and gear shift. So ordered a Seal performance.
I would hate to turn my head every time I needed to look at my speed. Like that would be such a pain in the neck tbh. I mean in traditional driving you'd need to just turn your eyes upwards or downwards to see the driver's screen but for the Tesla I guess you'd have to get used to having to turn your eyes left and right instead. Does the screen get glary sometimes to the point where you can't see what is on it?
Nice to have a review on the RWD Seal, as most reviews are on the AWD version, but finally a few are coming through on the RWD version. Interesting how in the UK the Seal costs more than the Tesla. Here in Australia the Mid spec Seal with the larger battery (as in this review) is ~AUD 4k cheaper than the entry level M3 Highland. Prices vary as well. The on road (driveaway) cost of the two BYD Seal versions here in AUS that are the same as in the UK (although we have a cheaper entry level Seal down here as well) are Seal Premium 230kw motor with larger battery at ~AUD63k (~33.5 GBP) and the Performance 390kw motor AWD (Excellence) ~AUD73k (~39k GBP) The entry level Seal with a 150kw motor (same as in the Atto 3) and 18 inch wheels is ~53k driveaway. I totally agree with the comment on lack of one pedal driving. Perhaps it could be added in a software update (or perhaps not that simple?) I drove an MG4, where you could select one pedal mode in the menu. But it was too severe. Needs a slider control for personal preference within certain parameters. Tesla have it pretty much right. I also recently drove the M3 update and was quite impressed and am waiting to drive the Seal before ordering. LOL, yes, the M3 does feel a bit like driving a robot. Just a bit too minimalist for me, but still nice.
Great to see a car podcast by two women!!! Unfortunately, I disagree with the reviews of both the M3 and the Seal. If the Seal is anything like the Atto 3, the one pedal driving sux and the whole experience is too 'legacy' for the sake of being less of a 'jump'. No mention of the lack of autosteer and sentry mode. No mention of the double glazed windows, suspension etc. And the supercharger network is not 'one of the best', it is clearly the only decent network! There just isn't any comparison with other networks. This review really comes across as people who haven't spent enough time with the vehicles. Agree, the design 'looks' great but looks are worth so little in reality.
Going around hunting for cars the other day. First I went to this Tesla. And sat in model y and the model 3 for a little bit trying to figure out how much I like it it was really nice adding to the fact that I've always said Tesla it that car I wanna get next over anything else (ever since this model 3 came out). Was convinced I was gonna get the model y Then I walked around the corner to the BYD showroom. First I sat in the Atto 3, then the seal. I forgot about the Tesla. I'm now driving my Atto 3
It's actually the opposite - the BYD styling is already obviously outdated and trying too hard - it's an obvious Chinese attempt at appealing to unsophisticated buyers who think buttons, knobs and add-on bits are what makes are car look attactive - you know like getting cheap carbon fibre wrap and gold plated accoutrements because you think they look classy.
It was a great review as usual from you guys - gals - you know who you are! Definitely not keen on the stalkless Tesla Model 3 update. Used to love pulling down on the right stalk to go forward, upwards to go into reverse. Ditto with the indicators even though for me, an Australian, they were on the wrong side. The lack of regen for me is a serious drawback. I have an Atto 3 and it's absolutely pathetic. I wish it could just be software selectable and the driver could chose their preference, low or high regen - I mean proper high regen like Tesla offers, not high regen as offered by BYD currently.
Agree the regen is my main complaint with BYD, I also have an ATTO3. I have ordered a Seal performance. Drove a demo mid-range yesterday and the transition was effortless.
Even here in the US more cities are installing traffic circles or what some call roundabouts. And the lack of stalk in the Model 3 to signal a turn out of circle will become problematic even for us Yanks. What is Tesla thinking are they next going to get rid of the steering wheel and just use a joy stick like what was used in WW I aircraft.
Of course not. They wouldn't go so far as to replace the wheel with a joystick. That would be ridiculous. They will replace the wheel with a space on the touchscreen. Swipe-to-Steer! (Don't worry, they will also allow voice commands to steer if you don't like the touchscreen) ;)
I believe the things your are installing in the US are still roundabouts. Traffic circles are things you had many years ago with different rules and were bad for accidents, hence the US's unjustified hatred of real roundabouts. Or so I saw on a UA-cam video anyway....
Your right most of what is being installed here in the US are roundabouts but traffic circles are still being installed are in in use in the US. Though now they are controlled in many cases by traffic lights. Not sure what UA-cam video you are speaking of, but there is movement in many states including red states that are installing roundabouts, It's of course for safety, traffic calming in residential communities and the costs incurred for traffic lights. And while there is some vocal opposition, towns have found and stuck by roundabouts because of the savings and safety Just to show that while there is opposition one place one would not think would have the most roundabouts is a red state. in community of of Carmel Indiana.
The most expensive part in an EV car is battery. BYD is producing battery itself. Therefore, it is able to provide a competitive price. Elon Musk also mentioned, if not because of the tariff imposed on this Chinese car by many countries. No other car makers can compete with BYD in term of price.
Tesla also produces its own batteries. Tesla has a bettery part in each of their factories producing cars. Not all are operational but they would be in the future. Tesla had their priority on the part that produces cars first but now the focus is on batteries more or less.
Surprising result for me. I prefer the design of the Seal too. However, my driving experience was diametral. The Highland accerleration felt more direct and it felt way better driving over a mountain pass. From my point of view, the Highland was quieter and the seats felt also more comfortable. The soundsytem in the Highland was at least ten times better ( in the LR) Due to my driving experience, I would go for the Model 3 (nearly every other Review I saw comes to this conclusion)
I totally agree. Hearing statements like "only marginally" when referring to its efficiency is irritating - as if they had to claw at justifying the result. It's well documented the tesla considerably more efficient (the seal is around 200kg heavier). I was super impressed when I checked the Seal out in person but it very much stank of plastic. That being said it was beautiful in a lot of ways (other than its tech/User Interface which is god awful.). As a first go, the Seal is impressive. The Tesla for me just feels far more refined (as it should be at this stage).
Let’s get it right. A head up display is on the windscreen not a display in front of the driver, that’s called a dash. Did you throw the cars as a corner? A plush ride & 300 kegs normally add up to a car that doesn’t handle?
Great review. Thank you! You mention that too much functionality is through the screens on both cars, and I agree. I haven't driven either of these cars, but I've driven a lot of previous model Model 3s and a lot of BYD Atto 3s. On those cars, I found that the lack of buttons was far more of a problem in the Tesla than in the BYD, even if you don't allow for the BYD having more non-screen controls. The BYD's voice recognition was excellent, so you could say, "turn off air conditioning, set fan speed to 2, and set temperature to 18 degrees" for example, and it would do it. The Tesla's voice control was hopeless. The Tesla showroom guy (this is in Australia) told me he could only get it to work if he put on an American accent. I have a northern English accent and it couldn't understand me, whereas I have no problem at all in the BYDs. I'd still prefer buttons. But the BYD offers a more usable alternative to the screen than the Tesla does.
I had a similar experience testing a MY in Australia. I tried to lower the temp setting as it was getting really warm under that roof, but couldn't find the temp adjustment on the screen. It kept taking me to the climate window where you can adjust everything except temp. I then tried voice commands (I despise voice commands even when they work) to lower the temp setting and the car navigation rerouted me to Islamabad. I had to pull over to reset the nav to take me back to the Tesla dealer. The kicker in all this is...I am an American! I have a midwestern accent, and it still misunderstood me.
I'm hoping car manufacturers will eventually realise that massive touch screens are not the answer. They've seen Tesla do it, and they sold boat loads of them, so they must be doing it right! Right? No. As a consumer, it's not what we want. Buttons are the answer. Far more intuitive and safer while driving. I own a model 3 and find the touch screen to be great at a standstill. Like playing on an iPad. But while driving it's way too distracting, and easy to miss the button that you were trying to press. Same thing with the door handles. Elon Musk might be a rocket scientist, but most of my friends aren't, and are made to feel like idiots when they can't figure out how to get in my car. I don't want to have to give all my passengers a tutorial on how to get in and out of the car 🤣
No. you have heads up display so you can see exactly where you are going and what speed. The Tesla is garbage, just because of that omission. I couldnt drive without the HUD ever again. Why Tesla doers not have that as standard is why it will always be 2nd rate.
In China, there’s a way better public charging system so that Tesla’s supercharger isn’t that significant. But in the UK I think superchage makes a difference in this competition at least now
@@mogensen84 Yes Netherlands here also lots of superchargers. But if you look at the prices, the benefit from having a Tesla is super low supercharger prices. Which you won't get if you have another brand or when you charge at other spots like FastNed or Ionity. Those are so mad expensive that i actually never charged there. Always at cheap ass superchargers. That's a HUGE selling point.
I had to rewind this a couple of times at the beginning as I genuinely heard, 'This is such an interesting testicle ..... '. 😳😳 After the initial shock I enjoyed the rest of the video and would gladly own either one of the two cars.
I really don't get all the fuss about those indicator buttons. We have had our Tesla Model 3 for just over a month now and both my wife and I have zero problems. Yes, it takes a while to get used to it, but so does the gear shift when you are new to driving. After a few hours it becomes second nature, even on roundabouts. As far as I am aware ModelX and ModelS drivers have had those buttons for years and no one complained.
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The BYD Seal is a lot cheaper than the Tesla Model 3 here in Australia. I can't believe how much is being charged for the Seal in the UK. The Seal is a brilliant car - we're very happy with our purchase.
I’m picking mine up Feb 10th, any tips from your experience?
I question total cost of ownership. Repairs and parts may be a lot more expensive
Not that much cheaper around $5000 on road in Aus
But in Australia you are forced to "service" the BYD. Depending on how much you drive the BYD can be more expensive than the Tesla over a period of 5 years
They should have compared that is equally priced to Tesla to make a fair comparison.
I’ve owned an AWD Performance Seal for 2 months it costs less than a RWD 3 here in Thailand. Fantastic car, great performance, luxury, refinement and no squeaks or rattles. You can access heated/cooled seats by dragging down from the top of the screen. The sunroof is silver coated and does a much better job than Teslas at reflecting heat. I have the V2L hooked up to my solar system to provide backup power to my house (videos on my channel for the doubters)
I’m sure the BYD is a great car but in the UK it starts at £5k more than the model 3 standard range which makes no sense ,fair enough the long range BYD seal is £1300 cheaper than the long range model 3 but from what I can see people are willing to pay that little bit more for the Tesla long range,the model 3 over here is a no brainer and pre-orders now are nearly 2 month waiting list so sales are very strong.
@@mhsohel47 wow UK, where the major industries are mostly owned by companies from 3rd world countries. Must be proud of that mate
@@alancobbinInterior is better, range is better, kit as standard is better etc…
@@alancobbinFunny, cause everwhere else in the EU they are in stock and can be delivered within 2 weeks (Hint: They are not selling the amount they are shipping out).
Read and travel more please dude.
C: Too many warning sounds!
BYD: Ok, I heard you.
C: I don't like the logo behind the car!
BYD: Ok, no problem.
C: Lower the price!
BYD: Sorry, your government doesn't allow me to do this.
Actually the price thing is rubbish. In Europe the BYD is also more expensive for the base version. It is a pricing choice and the dealership could lower it as it is a suggested price. They choose not to. And say it is because it is the first issue.
Spot on.
Apples and oranges mate. @@binitbob
Remember that China has far worse import taxes than western countries do. Remember very carefully who is the trading bully on the world stage. It's china if you look at all the barriers China has setup.
Bcause free trade and no tarrif is only when west could export goods, today its tarif ban tax ...
Cant go wrong with either, kind of like Merc vs BMW in the early 2000s, more comfort or more driving pleasure. Kind of silly BYD priced it so expensive in UK, not sure if it tariff thing, because in Australia Seal is 5-10K usd cheaper than the Base Model Tesla.
I'm pretty sure the UK government knows exactly why the BYD is priced higher than the Tesla Model 3 in the UK.
It's expensive because of extra tariffs they give to Chinese products, you know since your daddy USA does not like more advanced products from other countries especially the ones that are independent from USA colonial empire of lies and mental illness but hey at least you get ford EV and you can buy overpriced apple, good for u
In two months time, BYD will launch the standard range version of the Seal on the EU market.
This version will be cheaper than the Telsa Model 3 SR and have a slightly bigger battery.
it's over taxing to the BYD which I saw many European countries do to their product sell more easily😃😃
Import tax of 10% (on vehicle price and transportation cost) and sales tax of 20% on top of the import tax are standard for all cars imported into the EU. @@tashiyann3262
I've been reading about the regen on the Seal and it seems like they've implemented the regen through the brake pedal. When the pedal is first pressed it engages strong regen and blends the brakes in as needed. It appears this was aimed at people switching from ICE cars. It really is a matter of preference though, I'm on the side of what BYD have implemented to have more control of the car.
Sounds like how Zoe was set up.
@@i679n5 I think the Taycan is done the same way as well.
All EVs do that!
Same as in the Toyota CHR Hybrid we used to have. All Prius does as well. And I can confirm it is terrible in many ways. Tesla brake pads and discs on the other hand can last a lifetime
@@borinvlogs good to know, I came across info that this type of system can be more efficient than one pedal but can't recall where I saw that. I test drove the Seal and it felt completely normal to me that's why I recon it's going to be up to personal preference. Would be nice if BYD introduced an option for one pedal to suit all audiences 👌
Can't wait to test drive the BYD Seal in my country, will most likely be getting one next year. The quality and design of the BYD just looks more refined and better than the Tesla. Also BYD have the worlds safest EV Blade Batteries in the world.
Byd cars catches lot of fire in china. Search youtube and google.
@@amrindersingh3949 Well, so does Tesla and other EV cars, its just a unfortunate byproduct of Batteries. Although BYD have made it safer and will continue to do so.
The Model Y RWD from Berlin uses the same BYD blade battery. I'm not sure, but I think so does the Model 3 from China. In the US they use CATL blade for the LFP batteries.
So safe, in fact, that Tesla uses the exact same battery 😃
yeap, made by BYD @@Tresla
Test drove SEAL in Australia over the weekend...Quite, Comfortable with excellent interior and driver ergonomics and driving dynamics. The minimalist approach of TESLA 3 is going to cost them "new" customers, coming from petrol and hybrid cars well used to buttons, indicators, head up displays and Apple car play and android auto. A driver still needs to feel in control, a driving pleasure. Overall, I think BYD wins on ride, buttons with phone integration and a strong design language. Tesla stays strong on charging network and a faster charging, I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla brings back some of it's lost functions in coming years
One thing to take into consideration is the updates you get with a Tesla. The BYD infotainment will be dated in 2 years whereas the Tesla will still be updated in 5 years and look relevant. (Check the Tesla infotainment 3 years ago and compare it to now). Also Tesla may not be in the best financial state, but it will likely stays around in the coming years, you can't say the same for Chinese's brands. Last point is the efficiency of the Tesla, in the coming years it will probably cost more to charge a car than to simply put fuel in it, so you may want the most efficient one. The BYD is not a bad, but it's a bet to buy one.
@@22Epicyou do know the BYD also have OTA updates don't you?
@@davidh7725. You don't what happened to Weltmeister don't you? Funny comment though.
I would guess that Giga Shanghai is already planning to add back those stalks, for the non US markets. A great car ruined by such a silly idea. There will be many Tesla owners who will now look elsewhere for their second EV and you can bet this stupid feature will stop any new buyers joining the Tesla family. I love my Telsa Model 3 (with stalks) but many people were already turned off by the minimalist interior, the missing stalks will be the last nail in the coffin.
@@22EpicBYD not going anywhere since they are making more than just passenger cars. BYD is one of the market leaders in BE bus and trucks. Tesla signed deal for Blade batteries and other automakers are following.
byd is the world's largest electric bus manufacturer, the world's second-largest battery manufacturer, sells far more cars than Tesla, and supplies batteries to Tesla factories. In addition, BYD is the only manufacturer in the world that is fully capable of producing all components of EV (except glass and tires), including the main chips required.
EVs are heavily reliant on the software. BYD is like running Windows 85 VS Teslas Windows 11 or Apples OS. The software matters bigly.
@@specialkcitizen6263No, lol.
@@specialkcitizen6263lmao then the us shouldn’t be so worried about BYD spying on their citizens 😂😂😂
@@specialkcitizen6263 Software not so much , America had electric cars from 1890s to 1920s
@@specialkcitizen6263 Yes, but as they also build approx. half the ipads the world is in love with, I suspect (especially after viewing here on YT) OTA updates will address and fix things quickly (The most recent introduced 3 finger instant climate control for both temp and fans for the screen) Early Tesla's were terrible also, it's just everyone has now forgotten that 'water under the bridge' and compares this brand new car to a well established product that's been around for years ironing out its creases.
Seal is the most sporty car I ever drove. Its agility and handling are amazing. And I currently drive an Alfa Romeo.
My condolences about your piece of shit Alfa. lol
Tesla is like my grandpa's old Citroen back in the 60s, it's good but not in the public taste, while Seal honestly looks like a gorgeous modern sedan.
@@lucisleesion8824 the BYD looks like a Chinese knock off of the Tesla model three. Oh yeah, that’s exactly what it is.
@@lucisleesion8824 I think it's exactly the opposite I think the seal already looks really dated and the Tesla is modern and fresh - each to their own tastes I guess.
@@brettrun8575 a piece of shit can’t fly! And it’s you.
I think the BYD Seal will be a lot easier for ICE drivers to move to.
The Tesla is just too minimalist for most people.
Having said that, they've both out of reach for the average buyer, but will be OK in a couple of years when they halve in price 😂
EV are actually cheaper compared to similar powered ICE cars. My car is as fast as Lamborghini or Ferrari on pubic road for a friction of the price of a supercar.
@@borinvlogs haha
@@borinvlogsbut most only need the performance and interior space of a Honda Jazz and would be happy to have the EV advantages (no gearshifting, silence, preheat, charging at home) at a similar price of a used car. That will still take >5 years until cheap good electric cars are everywhere and the used market isn't as crap anymore.
Given that an ICE car has a short shelf life, you will find they will lose 75% after 2 years.
Who would want to buy an ICE car that is going to lose all its value in 2 years? when it gets to 4 years old - in 2028 its scrap value, you wont be able to sell it.
@@bricktop7803 Not sure where you get those numbers, but industry trend is 25-40% after 3 years.
It’s not just thinking about the indicator buttons…you can’t press the buttons on a roundabout if your hands are in the correct “10 to 2” position
I honestly thing the new insicator position will eventually rear it's head and become a legal issue for them........the same way Autopilot has in the States.
Been owning my Model 3 Highland for 2 months now. With both hands on the steering wheel, I experience no problem with this operation. Have lots of round abouts where I live, so I have had plenty of time testing. It all comes down to your seating, hand and finger position - after some training, it’s a deal breaker for me: I will never go back to stalks! 🙂
Please try before expressing plain feelings…😉
@@p3tT4n1 It's a bit like MacBooks a few years back. They removed all the ports and left you with a couple of USB C.
Apple said it's all people need.
Fast forward a couple of years and Apple re-introduced charging ports, HDMI and SD card slots.
Tesla will go the same way and bring back the stalks!
10-2 is old..technically 9-3 is the new agreed ideal hand position.
@@ninjarrow07 Indeed!
9-3, the same way a professional racing car driver would hold his/her hands, is the optimal way for controlling your car, which also happens to be the best way to do when using Teslas indicators.
Works great for me.
Why did the sound levels from road noise sound so much louder in the Seal if it is quieter?
not sure, the new Model 3 fastly is improved. Might be better now than the Seal. While the older model 3 might be slightly worse than the seal.
Driving on two different roads, some road surface make more noise than.others, the BYD is quieter than the Tesla, already in China they are
@@ottowillumnielsen9083 but the BYD has no long term reliability test and we dont know how the service is. Its a big Risk buying the BYD while i know from 10+ people in my direct surrounding that they almost have zero problems with their Tesla's. And constantly get proper updates. So the reliability is there. We dont know anything about the BYD. So tell me why would i risk my hard earned cash money on something unproven. While i can get the Tesla where they have proven reliability and efficiency.
Because it isn't quieter. The Model 3 is much quieter.
im mexican 33, and living in mexico. in my city of chinesca, mexico... BYD put 4 car factories in less than 2 years. the people are so happy cuzz the chinese gave 1000's of us mexicans jobs, which we never had before. plus, they sell great cars at very low prices, so us mexicans can all buy new BYD cars. but the main reason why china put many car plants in mexico, so they can enter the USA markets via the backdoors by mexico. very soon floods of chinese cars will in the states, yes, floods of chinese cars. however, this is a good thing, cuzz all car companies will have to lower their prices. this is a win win for all the people. thank you china & its wonderful people. bravo! bravo!
china is the future...
No, Chinese people don't want to sell cars to Americans. Some foolish companies that want to sell (love money and take risks) don't represent smart companies like BYD. Chinese people are very pragmatic and don't want America to go crazy.
A cuanto estan saliendo los BYD en pesos? Soy de Quintana Roo y todavía no los veo por aquí.
love mexico，wish i could visit mexico sooner
I want a BYD
just want to know if the monitor malfunction, blackout or blackout, how are we going to put the car in P or D for Tesla?
So pleased to hear (no pun intended) that BYD have softened the bings and bongs.
There's a BYD showroom in Stockport. I might go and look at the Seal.
Have you seen the price??? its crazy , starting FROM £45,000 !!!! WTF
@HowardNeil-k5r I don't buy. I lease.
Looking over to the screen for speeds is so annoying and dangerous,also indicators are ridiculous on the steering wheel
that;s what Ferrari and lamborghini have been doing for decades
Drive in roudabout country NL, took me a month to get used to the new indicators. When it is a small roundabout I use my right hand to press the bottom button to exit. Sometimes I use the stalks in the other car, but it feels strange now. The indicators kind off feel more natural.
That's the thing about most humans: We have the ability to learn and to adapt to new situations. But there are those who never made the transition from the pin to the button - or from the button to the zipper...
@@narphizoid No matter how you dress it, removing the indicator stalk is absolutely ridiculous
53k miles on a M3, extended test drive on the BYD Seal. The BYD is definitely a more comfortable car to travel in with great quality materials and ride comfort and sound insulation. I also think the BYD looks a bit better. The cabin and the seats are top quality and the exterior is also really nice, looks even better in person. But the M3 (even the old one) is just a bit more fun to drive. Its direct and darty (which I like) charges WAY faster, has the network and also a very large service network. The BYD is in its infancy, driving 100 miles to a service centre at the moment isnt ideal....UI wise the Teslas are also miles ahead. Menus make sense and are intuitive and grouped properly ie Climate/Display/Controls etc. The BYD has a bit of everything everywhere. Menus, pull downs, side swipes. That being said the Seals central screen is something special its so large and so crisp when navigating its a joy. Its also worth noting according BYD any Seals shipped before March come with the indicator on the right stalk and wipers on the left. My test car had this and was a nightmare to adjust to. Apparently the norm in other right drive markets. It also has the most aggressive lane departure system Ive ever seen (Even more aggressive than the MG4). Even an few inches left or right of centre it was dragging you all over the place. Can be turned off no doubt but needs adjusting. Id deffo still recommend it but I think it still needs some maturity and bug ironing to make it a sure thing. Most of that can be done through software so should be easy. Credit to them though honestly it rides as well a C Class/3 Series maybe even a smidgeon better. There arent many EVs that can do that. The new Tesla indicator is a no go for me too 🤣 the New M3 ups its quality considerably but not enough to tempt me for one either... so I'll be hanging on to my old M3 for now. If anyone has one, that would be my advice, especially if like me you still have ultrasonic sensors 🤣 (If you know you know....)
One of the rare reasonable replies on this video, great to hear your feedback taking into account your experience with both products 👌
ultrasonic sensors are a think of the past now tho, especially with the new vision only 3D parking assist in the new Christmas update
@@nifty6486 Still in its infancy and nowehere near accurate enough, also still cant see in front of the car..was more a joke about the USS being retro 🙂
Well its great to see the Model 3 has a worthy competitor now! If I was buying now, I would certainly take a Seal for a test drive - although I would miss the one pedal driving (once you get used to the one pedal driving, its hard to go back as I find it more relaxing and efficient). Agree the removal of the stalks on the Tesla is a backward step, even if you do get used to it, its still not as good. As it is I have a 2022 Model 3 RWD, which has the stalks, so I'm more than happy to stick with it (as the stalk delete cancels the many benefits of the Highland for me)!
Yes backward is teslas middle name
Yes the stalk delete would be fine, if the new Model 3 had steer by wire like the cybertruck. That means you don't have to fully rotate the steering wheel and then the buttons make sense. Now its a bit annoying, by the way i also own a 2022 model 3 RWD.
100% agree. If steer by wire was implemented, would make more sence to remove the stalks. The other “improvements” they made feels like more gimmicks than actual improvements
I guess Tesla will now be like BMW and Audi which may as well not have indictor stalks as they drivers never use them.....
@@djsslater 🤣
I am so with Ginny; the indicator buttons on the steering wheel are frustratingly awful - I hate it! And it gets even worse on the yoke, as you can't feed it as easilly arround with both hands. Every round-about becomes an indicator nightmare. And I do think that Nicola is right about the Tesla being more robot than car. It is very good at what it is doing, but with a complete lack of enjoyment to it. Styling-wise, it is nice but not interesting. - And the fart-noises... give me a break. If it was animal-noises like a chimp, cat or a dog, then maybe I would find that somewhat amusing, but fart-noises... I am not 5 years anymore. Apart from Teslas supercharger network, I think the BYD is the more attractive option here; looks better and seems to be more involving to drive - not to mention it got a real indicator stalk. BTW, I do think the general Electrfying audience is informed enough of EVs in general to have heard of BYD before. I saw my first one ten years ago: a taxi at the Barcelona Airport, and the Atto 3 has become such a massive hit here in Sweden even my parents (who are not into cars at all) know what a BYD is.
You hate it? Have you tried it? If not allow me to ignore your comment…
I don’t understand your comment about lack of enjoyment at all… I’ve driven a lot of cars and EV’s, and the M3 is the most enjoyable to drive by far…
@@mconnah1 I haven't tried putting my hand in boiling water but I can still predict it's a bad idea and I'm not going to like it
Car designed in California........they don't really use roundabouts in the USofA (or as they say.......traffic circles)
A design oversight if ever there was one.
Tesla fanboys defending insane decisions to get rid of indicators! And yes I’m a model 3 owner.
Having had my Tesla 3 go into one of their centres twice because the speedometer disappeared off the infotainment screen when being driven and then went into a hard re-set multiple times there is too much of an emphasis with functions on the infotainment screen. Now they seem have put the gear selector on the infotainment screen and the gear selector on the steering wheel. With the problem i had i would have been stuffed in selecting a gear if the infotainment screen was blank. With BYD in the UK now and Nio probably coming soon the range of choice of ev's is increasing and more to consider. The only thing in the Tesla's favour is the super charger network.
No you wouldn't, there's a back up gear selector that uses buttons up by the cabin lights
The Nio ET5 is 6k more expensive and requires a monthly rent of the battery or another 12k to buy the (smallest) battery with the car.
teslas are more pretier but not the best or practical
@@tonypaca3015 that's an interesting view, in what way are they less practical?
@@patmanrick the M3 provides two inconvenient gear selectors? I'd rather just a single standard one.
Does the Seal use heat pump for heating or resistance heaters?
Heat pump, I believe
Yes, it comes with a heat pump.
I liked the review a lot but I think that you just aren't that aware of how far advanced Tesla is over any electric car at the moment. All the cameras, sentry mode, dashcam, autopilot with all its features, one pedal driving, collision avoidance front and back as it tries to avoid that car that will hit you from behind and the front, it tightens your seatbelts before the crash. High fidility park assist, Tesla's Google maps, navigation system is far superior as it also calculates how many people are going to the charging station during your long trips. Display at the back with their own bluetooth connection. None of this is present in the BYD. Putting it into analogy, it's as if BYD is Android and Tesla is iPhone.
Yes cars very hard to compare now. M3 has no sensors though and cameras can’t perform all the required features yet so some are off at the moment, no? BYD has Birds Eye View for example.
Tesla is a Chinese startup to boost US economy due to the trade deficit. BYD supplies all the parts or shares the patent. In a nutshell, Tesla is the first Chinese EV to hit the global market.
chinese startup???@@alphaomega1969
@@alphaomega1969 Are you drunk?? i think you mean BYD. Tesla is NOT chinese.
Great! I much much prefer Android to iPhone.
The reason why BYD doesn't offer 1-Pedal driving is because the majority of the drivers simply don't like this feature. It feels unnatural to most people. I am sure after getting used to it, more people might be OK with this feature. BYD did actually incorporate the regenerative braking benefit of "1-Pedal Driving" into the braking system itself. In the BYD Seal, the regen kicks in when you first step on the brake pedal. The actual friction braking will eventually take over if the braking force required exceeds the regen capability. BYD's system works flawlessly. The ultimate goal is to recuperate as much kinetic energy as possible, and the regenerative braking system in the BYD Seal achieves this efficiently. All drivers are used to "coasting" as a natural part of driving. BYD wanted to preserve this feeling, and I am so glad they did that. One of BYD's major goal has always been to make the transition from ICE cars to EVs as seamless as possible. That's why they outsell all their competitors in China by a huge margin (including Tesla).
I just don't understand why BYD can't offer One Pedal Driving as a software option. You just go into vehicle settings and select the Regen tab and select the level which suits you - the driver - the best. This way, everyone wins. Those who would like greater Regen can have this easily whilst those who are not that keen on the feature, can chose little or no regenerative braking. After driving a Tesla Model Y, I definitely know which I level I would set.
@@LouDeVereFor secure driving concern.Two pedels but only use one is a disaster.
@@franktongzi1430 My regular daily driver is a Tesla but we also have ICE cars in the family - once you get used to 1 pedal driving it's fantastic, I actually detest having to get back into an ICE car without it - it just feels wrong now not to have it. There is a second pedal BTW.
Test drove both and preferred the Seal it's more like an ICE vehicle and straight away everything is familiar, bought the Seal Performance and loving it!!
BYD voice control makes things easy to adjust settings.
Not many videos start of with the line " This is such an interesting testicle"
😂😂😂😂 - I had to rewatch to make sure you were right.
Ginny knows what she's doing 😂
😂😂😂 "Test to call!"
I heard the same ... twice 😂😂😂
Just about to post the same!!😂
A nice and useful review. However, you didn't mention the sound system in either car! Model 3 has had a great reputation for a nice sound system. Does the latest version still have that? And, how does the Seal compare? Also, can you play music from a USB stick? All Teslas had a data ready usb port for this until they removed them a couple years ago. Does the Seal have such a port? I switched from a 2022 Model S to a 2023 BMW i4 so I could continue to play my music library from a USB stick.
I have never been in the Tesla......but I can tell you that the Dynaudio system in the BYD is rather good............and yes, it has a data port with a native media player.
The quality of the Audio in a car would also be a deal breaker for me.
You can still play music from a USB on a newer Model 3, but it requires some trickery. If you're comfortable with computers, you could replace the sentry USB stick in the glovebox with a larger device, ideally a "real" SSD (which use higher quality flash memory that's far more durable than any USB stick). Connect it to a computer and format it with two partitions, one for sentry and another for music.
Or you can connect a hub in the glovebox USB port, use one port for the sentry USB stick and another for your music. Tesla explicitly advises against this, however.
Finally there are aftermarket USB port modules for the centre console which give you more ports including one which supports data connections.
@@sjwright2 I actually tried the USB hub approach in my Model Y but couldnt get it to work. My solution was to insert my music USB where the sentry stick normally is, and just live without sentry mode. The other approaches you mention are above my pay grade. I am not happy with Tesla since the bean counters took over and are saving a few pennies by putting a power only usb in the center console where there used to be a data ready usb in prior years. This is analogous to Tesla saving some money by removing the turn signal and shifter stalks. I am not a fan of those changes either.
@@wilber8260...people have mobil phones with lots of storage and bluetooth... can create music directory with flac (or some higher quality mp3) on the phone... or use some higher quality streaming service... like TheJazzGroove or even Deezer premium and the likes... i used to use those usb sticks to carry music to the car, but i abandoned it years ago and connect with bluetooth...
I think this has to be one of the best videos since I subscribed many months ago. A more real world review with two different driver personalities and preferences. I agree with Ginny that Tesla has gone a tad too far with cost cutting on physical switches. Buttons for indicators are fine on a motorbike but not in a car, keep the fart sound though. I've no idea about how the wipers and screen wash are activated, if it's though the central screen or just auto wipers with wet salt on the roads I'd be a tad concerned about ending up with my teeth in a tree. When it's wet and salty on the roads I want manual control that's easy to use. Once again a cracking video both and thanks for sharing.
Can we fold seat in seal like model3 to sleep in the night if we want to do so?
What a great review. None of the BS about 0-60 times and drag races. Just a lot of practical comparisons on things that would affect everyday driving.
I have just had the chance to sit in the Seal and inspect the interior and have a play around with the infotainment and controls. As a current Tesla Model 3 owner I was quite impressed. The seats are firmer but more supportive, and the HVAC system is much better. It is let down slightly by the lower resolution displays compared to the Tesla. How much would it really add to the cost to put a better quality display in the Seal?
Since the new (highland) version of the Model 3 was unveiled, I have been taking note of how often I use both the indicator stalk (including the washer/wiper button on the end) and the direction mode selector (gear stalk) in my current Model 3, without looking. I just know intuitively where the controls are. By the same token, the scroll wheels on the Model 3 steering wheel fall easily under your thumb and don’t require you to look for them like the buttons on the ‘conventional’ steering wheel of the Seal. I struggled with the lack of driver’s display in the Tesla so much, I have fitted an aftermarket HUD.
Seriously considering changing my Model 3 for a Seal next year. While the Supercharger network is good, 95% of my charging is at home.
The Seal 0-60 is 3.8 seconds, sorry Elon Musl's fanboy.
@@lucisleesion8824 The Seal hass slightly faster 0-60 than the M3 LR but the LR makes it up for a faster acceleration beyond 60 miles or 100km for a faster 1/4 mile. Both cars cost the same 50,000 pounds. Btw the M3 LR is better everywhere not just 1/4 mile. It is more practical with better build quality, better charging infrastructure and more reliable as well. It is also a more advanced vehicle having access to Tesla's FSD beta and all kinds of features for the future
@@ulikemyname6744 The tesla does not have higher build quality rather the opposite. Its also got more roadnoise compared to the seal even the highland version. Sure it got some advantages but not build quality and materials.
@@UgglemannenFTW When it comes to material quality Tesla now has the advantage. As for build quality, Tesla pushed hard with the refresh, make the manufacturing more efficient and the overall quality increased significantly to a point where it doesn't matter anymore.
@@ulikemyname6744 Its better than the old model 3 but not better than the seal. It is still higher noise levels in the tesla.
In terms of the lack of stalks in the new Teslas, I don't have an issue with the gear selector being on the screen, but I also do not like the steering wheel buttons. I think they jumped the gun on that and those buttons should only be paired with cars with drive by wire like the Cybertruck. If I'm going to get a next generation Tesla that will all have indicator buttons on the steering wheel, it will have to be with steer by wire.
I hope regulations are coming to make an indicator stock obligatory. It is just not safe in a country with roundabouts. All safety related items should always be in a familiar position imho, what's next, removing the brake panel and go to full one panel driving? Or place the brake in a button on the steering wheel.
I probably know the reason for it, is that the development team for the steer by wire for the Model 3 wasn't finished but the steering wheel itself was and the deletion of the stalks. Sadly that probably didn't sync up and you have this. WHen you have steer by wire it all makes sense. (Look at how steer by wire works at the cybertruck.)
@@deejac9065Nah the solution for it is steer by wire. (In which you don't have to fully rotate the steering wheel like a normal wheel.) Go look it up how it works, the cybertruck has it.
@HermanWillems Again another item which should be thought of more thoroughly. What if all systems fail for whatever reason, you always should be left with safety controls; brake, steering, and door open. Although they might lose power, if you press the brake, you build up hydraulic pressure and slow down. The same goes for steering, although heavy, you can always steer yourself away from danger.
@@HermanWillems That's variable steer by wire that first appeared on a Lexus. I don't believe Lexus removed stalks however. Tesla decided to do so.
One of the heavy criticism of BYD Atto3 by this channel was the lack of physical switch, and for Tesla with zero switch, the comment is “you have to lean to use it”, lol.
BYD seal will be launching soon in Malaysia and we expect it to be much cheaper than Tesla Model 3 Highland. Tesla won on supercharger, quicker accercelation and hype. BYD parts is cheaper for future considerations.😂
The true strength of US products is its religious-like fanboys, espeically for Tesla
Absolutely love that. Perfect combination of serious reviews and light hearted mutual teasing. Fantastic
Are the safety ratings of both cars available? Haven't found anything to compare yet.
Seal has done ENCAP this uear. Pre facelift Tesla did the NCAPin 2019 so can't really compare because the standards were quite a bit tougher when the Seal was tested.
Both got 5* for their respective years though
Don't really know how long you have driven the new model 3, but I can tell you out of experience that the stalks thing is not as big of a deal as it is being made out to be. After using them for a couple of weeks muscle memory takes over and it all goes automatically. Even things like roundabouts are no problem at all. I'm not saying it is a good design choice, it's just not as big of a deal as some people are making you believe it is.
it really is a problem. Muscle memory versus physical ability of a human.
Switching indicator direction very quickly while the steering wheel is in some random position seems a decent challenge
Not sure if you noticed this during the test drive of the seal, I did yesterday on my second test drive trying to decide between this and the IONIC 6, I accidently whilst trying to lean forward to pick up a sweet which i put on the charging pad for safe keeping managed to knock the car out of drive at 25mph, why is this possible, i can do it in the tesla m3 we have but i can in the seal, not sure if it would go all the way to R but this needs to be addressed in an update where you cant change drive mode when going over say +_5 mph
I would have loved to see the Sentry mode, Dog mode or entertainment options like UA-cam Netflix autopilot and its phone app plus games and rear screen and safety ratings on the BYD to see how they compare.
Easy software upgrade.
6:23 Weird. I saw another review and they said the BYD materials felt very cheap compared to the Tesla. Also the display(s) get partially hidden by the steering wheel.
You can change the gears on the roof of the Tesla. The buttons are hidden between the interior lights. Initially designed for when the display doesn't work.
Yes I saw 2 reviewers and they both said the BYD had worse build quality.
Autofugeful German channel said excellent quality on Seal
I saw a review mentioning i too (whatcar I think) - but that review was very superficial. But thats the odd one out. Almost all other reviews, Ive looked, commend the Seal for the build and feel.
Yes, that was the recent "WhatCar" propeganda film.........(sponsored by Tesla or just made by a trio of Teslarati 🙄)
I have driven the Seal and I can tell you the qualty of interior material and build quality is right up there with (almost) the best that Europe can offer.
People can check out the interior of both the Tesla and BYD Seal them self and then see the reviewer you watched either were hired to "review it" or simply own Tesla stocks which is the case for quite a few.
Looks like a great car from BYD, sadly lacking a charging infrastructure which is a huge part of the Tesla offering. Their name is actually nothing to do with dreams it was originally Yadi Electronics Bi was added to give them an advantage in location in trade shows but I guess Bi-Yadi dreams just doesn’t sound as good to us westerners !
Can't you charge a BYD or other Kind of ev cars on a Tesla Supercharger in Australia???
Normaly the Supercharger network should be accessible to every EV now in the UK.
In China they called this BYD car also Burn Your Dreams because so many BYD cars most likely with NCM went up in flames. The new blade batteries however i think are good, but have lower energy density than CATL LFP cells which are technically better than BYD LFP cells.
@@HermanWillems I really like the car but without a dedicated charging network where the price is set by BYD then it’s either a small battery version for City dwellers plus a much larger battery ensuring users can travel from home to destination and back again without needing the hugely expensive Fast-Charger network.
I guess about 450 to 550 miles would make it the same as the ICE vehicle it replaces, home charging would be a must to avoid the rip off costs here in the UK for using the likes of Shell or Ionity etc. The only reasonably priced super chargers being Tesla who own, operate and set their own pricing which is much more realistically priced when comparing the cost per Kw of energy right now….and it can only go down in price
@@HermanWillems maybe you dont know that they dont speak english
22kWh home charging is nice to have but not many homes in the UK have the 400v 3 phase power supply necessary for a 22kWh charger.
作为一个中国的海豹车主我表达一下我的看法（我就懒得写英语了，反正你们可以用谷歌翻译），特斯拉在上海的销量非常的好，所以我可以很容易的从我的朋友那试驾他们的model3和model Y ，通过试驾我自己体会了记得让我很不舒服的地方，1. 特斯拉没有专门的仪表盘，这让我不得不在行驶过程中不停的看中央屏幕来获取速度信息避免超速。 2. 单踏板模式，我非常不理解单踏板给你们（欧洲人/美州人）带来的所谓便利性，在我看来这会让一个习惯了传统汽车驾驶的司机在使用特斯拉时变成一个马路杀手（中国的汽车驾驶培训告诉我们的驾驶方式是非常根深蒂固的）。3. 特斯拉的内饰， （尽管我还没有尝试过新的model3听说他升级了不错的内饰）特斯拉对于内饰的偷工减料简直是在犯罪 他们用20多万RMB的价格卖出的汽车 内饰甚至不如一台10万RMB的大众汽车。
回到我选择比亚迪的理由 1. 作为一个中国汽车品牌，他在中国的售价确实比较的划算。 2. 比亚迪的充电协议使它支持中国市场上可以看到的所有充电桩（包括特斯拉的特高压800V超级充电桩，顺便说一句中国的公共充电桩数量超过全世界的总和）3. 海豹的驾驶感受更像一台汽油动力的轿车。4. 很多评论中提到的能量回收的可调节范围 海豹有高动能回收和普通回收两个档位，你们可以从屏幕左下角的汽车小标识点击进入后设置。 5. 虽然比亚迪的智能化水平在中国电动车厂家里算是一个悲剧但是他的语音识别能力还是不错的，很多时候你们可以直接通过语音发布指令。
Great to be able to read feedback from China. What would we do without Google translate! 😁 Those are all valid points in my opinion and the reason why I'm choosing the Seal. It's funny that you said other Chinese manufacturers find BYDs infotainment as a tragedy 😂 well put. I'm hoping they can greatly improve the system over the next short while to match that of other manufacturers.
What was the efficiency in Kw/h for the seal? Never said unless I missed it
They said they were both similar
It is still the same old same old. Advertised 310 mile range and you get 250 miles in Winter.
I dont have any range anxiety My last car was an ICE and I would top up when it got to half tank.
It is the same with my current EV - top up when I get to half tank.
The EV does give an accurate range in miles. The petrol tank in an ICE car is just too inaccurate.
Test drove the BYD and hated it. OK I currently drive a model 3 and love the minimal styling. BYD seems so cluttered. I didn't like the ride, the whining noise at low speed, the constant nagging lane keeping, the laggy screen. The front view with those vents I think looks awful. Still reviews like this made me give the BYD a test drive so now I have an informed opinion. I can now get my new model 3 in February without any worries. Also would someone please do a model 3 review without spending half theme talking about indicator stalks. It will take about 2 days to get used to it.
Test drove both - the AWD Seal is just a better, more comfortable drive and is quicker. Style and experience is subjective, Tesla’s all look bland and basically exactly the same to me, the Seal looks more sporty.
The screen is better quality in the M3 though undoubtedly. Lots of 3rd party apps you can add to the Seal though through exploits but would likely invalidate warranty.
Tesla say minimalism, i say cost cutting to the point of almost being dangerous to drive with the frequency you have to take your eyes off the road and the lack of parking sensors was a big No!! For me.
How does either car get round the legislation on fiddling with the central display considering you're not allowed to alter sat nav, or mobiles while driving. As an older driver I struggle to re adjust focal length quickly enough, and as pointed out the indicators whilst lock turning
Auto pilot helps a lot in this regard. If you need to fiddle having the auto pilot keeps you centred and slows down if cars ahead slow down for the odd second that you're tinkering with the controls. (I don't mean avoid looking for mammoth sessions but the couple seconds that's required in until you get used to it.) You could also just use voice assistance
All the things you need to do while driving are on physical buttons. A lot of things are completely automatic and the car operates these things well. The only thing that you might feel like fiddling with while driving is the heating. Generally set to automatic it maintains a comfortable temperature. The control to increase and decrease temperature is at the bottom of the screen and after a while muscle memory takes you to it. Alternatively, this is what I do a lot, push the right hand steering wheel control and say “temperature 22”. Works a treat and safer than buttons.
The BYD allows you to control things via voice commands.
I think you can touch built in screens while driving it's just mobile devices you can't (even if it's to adjust sat nav)
From the Highway Code Rule 149
"You MUST NOT use a hand-held mobile phone, or similar device, capable of interactive communication (such as a tablet) for any purpose when driving or when supervising a learner driver."
The law specifies a hand held device not devices fixed into the car.
How is the charging network in the UK for BYD vs Tesla?
Nothing comes close to the Tesla charging infrastructure. It's by far the cheapest and easiest to use. Not to mention how unreliable many of the other cargers are.
I agree with you Ginny...indicator buttons on the steering wheel are ridiculous...I would go so far as to say downright dangerous. As for no binnacle or head up display...the same, dangerous, if you have to take your eyes off the road to see the Speedo...well I'm not even sure that's legal!
As you can tell I am officially an old fogey having turned sixty-five this year!😅
Did you actually state the prices of both, think I missed it?
Great show, good vibes from you two.👍
I don't get the big deal about the lack of "binnacle" moving your eyes slightly down and left if really not much different to moving them down to a binnacle.... sure it is a change but once you adapt it no different.... . I guess it is big deal for first time drivers but once you drive a Tesla every day it really is not. The reviewer comically moving her head to the left is just for show, not a reality.
@@djsslater that's fine but wearing glasses makes the head movement just slightly more. Not dissimilar to the movement required for nearside (UK) wing mirror agreed but after forty five years of just dropping ones eyes down for speed info it's a difficult and unnecessary adjustment. There's also the fact that it's a bright screen which requires more refocussing after you've looked at it. Not for me, but then I did say I was old!
What about charging cost?
Tesla is cheaper across the board. More efficient, and even when non Tesla car use the Tesla network, they get charged a non Tesla premium. So I think Tesla will likely hold this advantage unless governments step in or the other manufacturers make their own charger networks or deals with existing companies.
So If I win the lottery AND BYD starts selling in the States, I'd go with the Seal and hope for OPD update in the future.
Wait why didn’t you mention the emergency PRNDL in the sunglass visor
The drive selector is also above you by the rear view mirror. Agree on the stalks though, that will out so many people off buying one or replacing their existing M3 with one.
Yes, I think a lot of reviewers aren't aware of the "emergency selector buttons" on the roof in case the screen fails. They are also an option if you don't like the slider thing on the screen I guess.
@@Paul-ow9dd On the contrary, a lot reviewers are, they’ve mentioned it in almost every Tesla review I’ve watched
Interesting to note that in Australia there are 3 versions, the Dynamic, the Premium and the dual motor AWD version of the Seal instead of the 2 in the UK. The Dynamic (entry model has a 61Kwh battery and is RWD only and sells at just over A$48,000. The Premium and the AWD versions have 85Kwh batteries with the Premium RWD version having roughly 60 Km more range than the dual motor AWD version. The Premium is also around A$10,000 less expensive than the AWD version, selling at just over A$58,000.
Model 3 all day, every day for me. Better price, more storage and more efficient. Plus true one pedal driving which for me is very important.
Second generation M3 or 1st generation Seal? BYD had no history of reliability or parts yet. Tesla software and features unbeatable.
@@xiaolingzhang5385is tesla not a new brand too?
@@xiaolingzhang5385 BYD has been making millions of taxi in China for more than 15 yrs.
It's a bit of a BYD commercial. If it was cheaper, I would understand but why? They BYD is more for people's first dive into electric that want the confort of knowing that things have not changed much. The Tesla is more for people that want the future now.
If the BYD was cheaper, it would be a contender. But nobody in their right mind would pay more for it. As an overall package of a 'car', it competes - but as an 'electric car' (charger availability / charging speed / route planner integration / efficiency), Tesla are still head and shoulders above everyone else.
BYD is now the market leader in EV sales. So people are buying them more so than Tesla, even with higher price tag.
Most people dont buy evs to go cross country,
I charge my BYD in Tesla chargers all the time. Thanks Tesla!
It literally takes 2 minutes to get used to the gearshifting in the Tesla, and you get used to the turn buttons. And I think the Tesla looks a lot simpler and better, the range and infrastructure is also better.
I tried the Ioniq6, Seal and P2 and the Tesla won me straight away. By FAAAR the best technical system, less cluster and the most simple to use. The Seal, Ioniq and P2 are also more expensive and more expensive to run. The new Tesla is also quiet and the suspension is great.
I have the new Tesla, the capacitive buttons take a little getting used to, but 200km and no problems. Auto cancel works 95%of the time but so far even on UK roads no problem with signalling coming off roundabouts. Shifting is easy and use the atu select and that works 95% of the time. Latest update has massively improved parking visualisation. Over the last 1801 miles my average is 4.12miles/kW and that so far is driving primarily in the UK for the last 2 weeks. And 600 mile journey dead simple with the Tesla superchargers.
I looked at the BYD and noisier, softer, more expensive for the base model. (I got the RWD version of the Tesla) 262 miles in general per day covers all my needs and the 600 mile journey added 1 hour and that was because I needed to arrive with 70% charge as there was no destination charge until the following day. This was my first Ev and I think it was a good choice, though I do agree that the BYD does look nicer outside. 😊
Don't read the Tesla owner forums on the TM3 highland quality, it's an even greater letdown then before.
@@DBGE001 I had more of an issue with getting it delivered. The quality is very good certainly as good as the Mercedes cla that just went back to the lease Company. Despite being told it wouldn't come with charging cables or mats etc as it was just the RWD version it came with the gen 2 tesla charger and a type 2 cable and mats throughout.
I've driven it just shy of 2000 miles in the last 2 weeks and not a rattle or squeek in sight.
Yup, and they didnt mention the Tesla indicators self operate if you use the navigation software. The car indicates for you.
Heated AND cooled front seats in the Tesla just so everyone knows. That is comfort in the summer and winter.
A fair and decent review. However I would be surprised if the efficiency in cold weather would be as good as you claim. I see an over 20% drop in efficiency in cold weather in my Genesis Electrified G80....
Genesis use LG batteries I believe which are far inferior to the BYD LFP battery.
Does it have a heat pump?? (genuine question......I don't know)
Yes it does have a heat pump which kicks in when you select a charger as your destination, or so I believe! I am certainly experiencing the range degradation that cold weather brings to an EV. In the summer driving in France at the faster max speed -130kmh (81mph), I could easily achieve 300 miles if I ran the battery down to close to 10%, the same journey a couple of weeks ago, it would be more like 220 miles range.
Whilst here in the UK on typical variable speed limit motorways - so 50 60 or 70mph in warm Weather would easily see 3.5 or higher miles per kWh.
However Genesis like its parent companies EV's offer upto 350 per kwh charging speeds, although i've never seen that in reality...
Even if the car has a heatpump, you must know that every EV has also a resistance heating element (yes also the EV's with a heatpump). This element is typically used to get the car interior up to temperature in a fast (but energy carnivorous) way. @@keithshayle7027
@@06younger It's not IF it has a heatpump. But also the correct efficient implementation of it. The implementation and efficiency is where the Tesla shines and outperforms everything else in the car space. It's the best HVAC system in the automotive industry.
You put your indicator on before turning the wheel who turns the wheel and then turns on the indicator
How about really slow manovres, like car park manovres with vehicles behind you etc.
Not every situation requires you to indicate at top dead centre. Real world isn't necessarily that simply arranged. If it was such a brilliant concept then everyone would have copied Ferrari years ago, they didn't for a reason.
Very honest review. BYD 100% better than Tesla
Where you dropped as a baby?
@@Monkstameth oh the irony. It’s *were you dropped as a baby…
Based on what ???
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A lot of drivers just want a car that works. So maybe that’s the reason for Tesla popularity. They just work and like you said if you’re getting an EV there’s no other car brand that will make that transition easier than a Tesla
For using fast charges yes. But charging at home is the same.
But then there's the user interface. It's a big departure from what people are used to. Sometimes for no good reason.
As long as they insist on those few dumb ideas, they won't appeal to average people. Not if they have a choice of a more familiar car.
Most cars have indicators. This is an easy transition from a BMW or an Audi, but for people that actually use their indicators this is definitely not an easy transition
@@angrypomThat's a good one 😅
@@Alberto-mq7gw there’s definitely a lot of features in the car but just like a new smartphone, people can see what they need to use then leave the rest.
@@Uchejnr Yes, but they definitely need to use the indicators, the windshield wipers, the gear selector or the steering wheel. Those things are critical in the user interface of a car and you can't change them arbitrarily. Well, apparently you can, legally speaking, but it's disrespectful and even dangerous. Tesla is getting away with it for two main reasons: 1, because it appeals to some techies. 2, because some people still don't have a choice if they have to road trip often or depend on public chargers. But ultimately it will have to decide to either ditch these dumb decisions or stay as a niche brand.
I have seen many Chinese EV cars have voice commands without needing to use the monitor while driving
0:00: 🚗 Comparison between the Tesla Model 3 and the BD Seal electric car, with a unique feature of indicator buttons.
3:24: 🚗 The video discusses the design and features of the Tesla Model Y.
6:52: 🚗 The video is a review of a car's interior features and functionality compared to a Tesla.
14:20: 🚗 The video is a review of a car, focusing on its performance and features.
17:23: 🚗 The reviewer expresses their love for the comfort of the car and discusses the changes made to its sound.
20:58: ⚡ Comparison of charging speeds and efficiency between Tesla and other car models.
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I wanted to like the seal. But it doesn't come close to Model 3 driving wise
BYD is going to be one to watch going forward. I don’t think they are a threat to Tesla, but Ford, Stelantis and VW should be very scared.
Yeah, absolute agree.
They’ve recently outsold Tesla globally.
if the screen on the Tesla breaks for some reason how can you change gears then?
lol I'd be scared as heck!
Another Gear selector is up by the rear view mirror
Love Nicola’s funny and honest opinion. Good job girls👍🏻
Can the driver survive after many roundabout with this highland?
As someone who was weighing up the Model 3 Highland and Seal Performance for a long time it came right down to test driving a Model 3 for my decision to be made.
I’ve now owned my Seal Performance for almost 2wks and basically my thoughts echo Ginny and Nicola’s to a tee. In Australia the Seal is priced significantly less than the Euro and UK markets and in a lot of reviews I’ve seen from those markets, the Seal’s high pricing has been its biggest negative but it’s great to finally see an objective review instead of the typical Tesla bias in a lot of reviews.
This video has certainly triggered many Tesla fans!!
As someone in Australia comparing the same models, what tipped the balance for you if you don’t mind saying?
@@newbris I test drove the Model 3 RWD and LR for 45mins each. There’s absolutely no doubts there’s a huge upgrade over the previous Model 3 and does everything better.
The main talking point is obviously the stalk removal. Gave them a good workout in varying scenarios and while they weren’t really an issue and it took minimal time to get use to them there were times where they were simply an inconvenience and these situations can’t be avoided based simply on hand/wheel positioning.
Ride comfort and cabin noise improvements are certainly noticeable on smooth roads but still got some noise at highway speeds.
The main issue but not really an issue given it’s in beta was the auto-gear selector. Only got to try it a few times but on a couple of occasions it made the wrong selection and if you were none-the-wiser it could be a rather ominous outcome. I have seen previous videos where Tesla Vision has grossly misjudged objects and measurements so hopefully there’s improvements there.
The other things I’m not a big fan of: gear selection on the centre screen, exterior looks, everything on the centre screen and completely minimalist look and feel.
Overall I was impressed with the upgraded Model 3 but ultimately, I still prefer the look of both the interior and exterior of the Seal and for the money, I still can’t go past it. The (Tesla) RWD in my preferred config would be $70K ($64K after the rebate) and the LR would be $80K while the Seal Performance is $72K.
Seal's OBC is not single phase?
I spent a long time mulling over both options and have (or had) a deposit on and test drove both:
I preferred the tm3 throttle response which I found to be instant, the seal had some delay (I was in sports mode for both)
The seal cannot compete with Tesla sentry mode, if you’ve used it before you’ll know what you’re missing. The seal in my country does not ship with a dash cam. The Dealer suggested I buy a 3rd party dashcam
Premium connectivity for relatively unlimited UA-cam Netflix streaming when travelling with the kids vs a 2gb data cap on the seal (albeit free),
my head hit the roof in the rear seat of the seal, not so the m3 (I’m 6’4),
seal performance is 7k more expensive than the m3lr. (Shouldn’t it be the other way around being the challenger)
What I liked from the seal - imo slightly better driving position, heads up display (note that I couldn’t get the steering wheel in a position I liked with out obscuring the second display), vtl, tow rating of 1500kg. vs 1000kg on the Tesla.
On balance going I’ll be going ahead with the M3 long range due to driving dynamics and software, 7k cheaper. Very close call though.
When I first viewed the video, I thought it is biased. Test driven a single motor Model 3 Highland and a Seal premium back to back this morning , and I must say I could not agree more with the comments and conclusions after the sessions. The ride quality and the user interaction interface of the Tesla are pathetic and lacks that of the Seal. Unfortunately Tesla Perth disable the lane keep, cruise control of the test car and so was unable to see how well it works though I was all along under the impression that it would be much better than the BYD. But until the Tesla Perth centre wise up and put their best foot forward in the competition, I have completely written off the Tesla. In Australia, it is a no brainer which car to buy. The Tesla is priced higher than the Seal!!
Drove a middle range Seal yesterday and believe it will suit nearly everyone. Tesla has great technology but too minimalistic for me, particularly the indicators and gear shift. So ordered a Seal performance.
You will regret that choice.
I would hate to turn my head every time I needed to look at my speed. Like that would be such a pain in the neck tbh. I mean in traditional driving you'd need to just turn your eyes upwards or downwards to see the driver's screen but for the Tesla I guess you'd have to get used to having to turn your eyes left and right instead. Does the screen get glary sometimes to the point where you can't see what is on it?
Nice to have a review on the RWD Seal, as most reviews are on the AWD version, but finally a few are coming through on the RWD version.
Interesting how in the UK the Seal costs more than the Tesla. Here in Australia the Mid spec Seal with the larger battery (as in this review) is ~AUD 4k cheaper than the entry level M3 Highland.
Prices vary as well. The on road (driveaway) cost of the two BYD Seal versions here in AUS that are the same as in the UK (although we have a cheaper entry level Seal down here as well) are Seal Premium 230kw motor with larger battery at ~AUD63k (~33.5 GBP) and the Performance 390kw motor AWD (Excellence) ~AUD73k (~39k GBP) The entry level Seal with a 150kw motor (same as in the Atto 3) and 18 inch wheels is ~53k driveaway.
I totally agree with the comment on lack of one pedal driving. Perhaps it could be added in a software update (or perhaps not that simple?) I drove an MG4, where you could select one pedal mode in the menu. But it was too severe. Needs a slider control for personal preference within certain parameters. Tesla have it pretty much right. I also recently drove the M3 update and was quite impressed and am waiting to drive the Seal before ordering.
LOL, yes, the M3 does feel a bit like driving a robot. Just a bit too minimalist for me, but still nice.
Great to see a car podcast by two women!!! Unfortunately, I disagree with the reviews of both the M3 and the Seal. If the Seal is anything like the Atto 3, the one pedal driving sux and the whole experience is too 'legacy' for the sake of being less of a 'jump'. No mention of the lack of autosteer and sentry mode. No mention of the double glazed windows, suspension etc. And the supercharger network is not 'one of the best', it is clearly the only decent network! There just isn't any comparison with other networks.
This review really comes across as people who haven't spent enough time with the vehicles. Agree, the design 'looks' great but looks are worth so little in reality.
Tesla M3 Highland's front definitely took design cues from the Seal especially the lights.
Going around hunting for cars the other day. First I went to this Tesla. And sat in model y and the model 3 for a little bit trying to figure out how much I like it it was really nice adding to the fact that I've always said Tesla it that car I wanna get next over anything else (ever since this model 3 came out). Was convinced I was gonna get the model y
Then I walked around the corner to the BYD showroom. First I sat in the Atto 3, then the seal. I forgot about the Tesla. I'm now driving my Atto 3
The Tesla is exactly built for the Tesla buyer, lacking in personality, dull, robotic and craving to be cool, BYD is a much nicer car
It's actually the opposite - the BYD styling is already obviously outdated and trying too hard - it's an obvious Chinese attempt at appealing to unsophisticated buyers who think buttons, knobs and add-on bits are what makes are car look attactive - you know like getting cheap carbon fibre wrap and gold plated accoutrements because you think they look classy.
@@TB-up4xi I have been caught by the actual police, like Elon your always right, now tell me I am wrong once more
What was that first sentence?
It was a great review as usual from you guys - gals - you know who you are! Definitely not keen on the stalkless Tesla Model 3 update. Used to love pulling down on the right stalk to go forward, upwards to go into reverse. Ditto with the indicators even though for me, an Australian, they were on the wrong side. The lack of regen for me is a serious drawback. I have an Atto 3 and it's absolutely pathetic. I wish it could just be software selectable and the driver could chose their preference, low or high regen - I mean proper high regen like Tesla offers, not high regen as offered by BYD currently.
Agree the regen is my main complaint with BYD, I also have an ATTO3. I have ordered a Seal performance. Drove a demo mid-range yesterday and the transition was effortless.
Great review
Even here in the US more cities are installing traffic circles or what some call roundabouts. And the lack of stalk in the Model 3 to signal a turn out of circle will become problematic even for us Yanks. What is Tesla thinking are they next going to get rid of the steering wheel and just use a joy stick like what was used in WW I aircraft.
Of course not. They wouldn't go so far as to replace the wheel with a joystick. That would be ridiculous. They will replace the wheel with a space on the touchscreen. Swipe-to-Steer!
(Don't worry, they will also allow voice commands to steer if you don't like the touchscreen) ;)
I believe the things your are installing in the US are still roundabouts. Traffic circles are things you had many years ago with different rules and were bad for accidents, hence the US's unjustified hatred of real roundabouts. Or so I saw on a UA-cam video anyway....
Your right most of what is being installed here in the US are roundabouts but traffic circles are still being installed are in in use in the US. Though now they are controlled in many cases by traffic lights. Not sure what UA-cam video you are speaking of, but there is movement in many states including red states that are installing roundabouts, It's of course for safety, traffic calming in residential communities and the costs incurred for traffic lights. And while there is some vocal opposition, towns have found and stuck by roundabouts because of the savings and safety Just to show that while there is opposition one place one would not think would have the most roundabouts is a red state. in community of of Carmel Indiana.
Roundabouts are fantastic so long as people know how to use them properly.
BYD does hybrids too
Nicola here, can confirm Ginny definitely says ‘test to call’ at the start of the video 😂
I heard that as well
You sure, sure sounds like 'testicles'
The most expensive part in an EV car is battery. BYD is producing battery itself. Therefore, it is able to provide a competitive price. Elon Musk also mentioned, if not because of the tariff imposed on this Chinese car by many countries. No other car makers can compete with BYD in term of price.
Tesla also produces its own batteries. Tesla has a bettery part in each of their factories producing cars. Not all are operational but they would be in the future. Tesla had their priority on the part that produces cars first but now the focus is on batteries more or less.
I think you two make a very good duet. The chemistry between the two of you is fantastic!
I hope you host more episodes together!
Curious is it possible to turn on heated seat using voice command for byd?
Yes
Surprising result for me. I prefer the design of the Seal too. However, my driving experience was diametral. The Highland accerleration felt more direct and it felt way better driving over a mountain pass. From my point of view, the Highland was quieter and the seats felt also more comfortable. The soundsytem in the Highland was at least ten times better ( in the LR)
Due to my driving experience, I would go for the Model 3 (nearly every other Review I saw comes to this conclusion)
I totally agree. Hearing statements like "only marginally" when referring to its efficiency is irritating - as if they had to claw at justifying the result. It's well documented the tesla considerably more efficient (the seal is around 200kg heavier).
I was super impressed when I checked the Seal out in person but it very much stank of plastic. That being said it was beautiful in a lot of ways (other than its tech/User Interface which is god awful.).
As a first go, the Seal is impressive. The Tesla for me just feels far more refined (as it should be at this stage).
@@gregorygoodwin6265 you need keep looking at center screen just to look at your speedometer. There's no heads up display either.
Let’s get it right. A head up display is on the windscreen not a display in front of the driver, that’s called a dash. Did you throw the cars as a corner? A plush ride & 300 kegs normally add up to a car that doesn’t handle?
Great review. Thank you!
You mention that too much functionality is through the screens on both cars, and I agree.
I haven't driven either of these cars, but I've driven a lot of previous model Model 3s and a lot of BYD Atto 3s.
On those cars, I found that the lack of buttons was far more of a problem in the Tesla than in the BYD, even if you don't allow for the BYD having more non-screen controls. The BYD's voice recognition was excellent, so you could say, "turn off air conditioning, set fan speed to 2, and set temperature to 18 degrees" for example, and it would do it.
The Tesla's voice control was hopeless. The Tesla showroom guy (this is in Australia) told me he could only get it to work if he put on an American accent. I have a northern English accent and it couldn't understand me, whereas I have no problem at all in the BYDs.
I'd still prefer buttons. But the BYD offers a more usable alternative to the screen than the Tesla does.
I had a similar experience testing a MY in Australia. I tried to lower the temp setting as it was getting really warm under that roof, but couldn't find the temp adjustment on the screen. It kept taking me to the climate window where you can adjust everything except temp. I then tried voice commands (I despise voice commands even when they work) to lower the temp setting and the car navigation rerouted me to Islamabad. I had to pull over to reset the nav to take me back to the Tesla dealer.
The kicker in all this is...I am an American! I have a midwestern accent, and it still misunderstood me.
I'm hoping car manufacturers will eventually realise that massive touch screens are not the answer. They've seen Tesla do it, and they sold boat loads of them, so they must be doing it right! Right? No. As a consumer, it's not what we want. Buttons are the answer. Far more intuitive and safer while driving. I own a model 3 and find the touch screen to be great at a standstill. Like playing on an iPad. But while driving it's way too distracting, and easy to miss the button that you were trying to press. Same thing with the door handles. Elon Musk might be a rocket scientist, but most of my friends aren't, and are made to feel like idiots when they can't figure out how to get in my car. I don't want to have to give all my passengers a tutorial on how to get in and out of the car 🤣
You dont move your head to check speedometer, you just glance left or right depending on wheel configuration
No. you have heads up display so you can see exactly where you are going and what speed. The Tesla is garbage, just because of that omission.
I couldnt drive without the HUD ever again. Why Tesla doers not have that as standard is why it will always be 2nd rate.
In China, there’s a way better public charging system so that Tesla’s supercharger isn’t that significant. But in the UK I think superchage makes a difference in this competition at least now
Same here in Denmark. Everyone can use Tesla superchargers, but we have plenty of other options.
Majority of people charge at home anyway.
@@mogensen84 Yes Netherlands here also lots of superchargers. But if you look at the prices, the benefit from having a Tesla is super low supercharger prices. Which you won't get if you have another brand or when you charge at other spots like FastNed or Ionity. Those are so mad expensive that i actually never charged there. Always at cheap ass superchargers. That's a HUGE selling point.
Not so. Nearly everyone uses home charging, and costs a fiver to charge you eV to full tank (its a lease car so it gets charged to 100%).
You completely missed the drive park reverse controls on the top inside of the roof
I had to rewind this a couple of times at the beginning as I genuinely heard, 'This is such an interesting testicle ..... '. 😳😳 After the initial shock I enjoyed the rest of the video and would gladly own either one of the two cars.
I really don't get all the fuss about those indicator buttons. We have had our Tesla Model 3 for just over a month now and both my wife and I have zero problems.
Yes, it takes a while to get used to it, but so does the gear shift when you are new to driving. After a few hours it becomes second nature, even on roundabouts.
As far as I am aware ModelX and ModelS drivers have had those buttons for years and no one complained.