I’ve owned the AWD Seal for 5 months now and I love the car. The driver’s and main display look much better in dark mode. There is also a “basic” drivers display with less graphics. There are 2 levels to the under floor storage. Here in Thailand the safety bongs can be switched off once and stay off. BYDs are expensive in Europe compared to Australia and SEA. I think because the EU keeps accusing Chinese manufacturers of dumping (you wanted them to be more expensive - ok then) Teslas don’t come with V2L, I have my Seal hooked up to my solar system to give over 6 Tesla Powerwalls of home backup power - videos on my channel for the doubters
How are you holding up with the plinging and plonging from the safety systems? I test drived the car yesterday, and 6 liked the car, but I found all the sounds very distracting.
@@Christian-cy2pn Hi, ive owned the Premium model for 2 months and have no regrets, love the comfort, power, features, build quality & styling. The only beep that can be annoying is when exceeding the speed limit, but that can be turned off with 2 touches of the screen via a shortcut.
@Batts42 Thanks for the reply. It's too bad it turns on next time you use the car. Anyways, this car is priced pretty good in norway at the moment,so this is a good candidate for our next car. I'm glad you are enjoying it👍
As an ex 4+ year Model 3 owner driver, the loss of indicators was the last straw. Our RWD Seal is utterly gorgeous as a replacement. Americans haven't a clue about the BYD threat. I look forward to improvements actually being delivered........... right Elon ?.
Americans just ban/tax things when they become a threat. Or force the manufacturer to open a plant on native soil. Will be interesting to see how they manage the issue of manufacturers opening production in Mexico.
Another nicely presented video Jim. I really like the BYD; I enjoyed my test drive of it during Everything Electric and it drove favourably when compared to the Model 3 I drove last year. Given a choice, I think I'd struggle to choose. I love the efficiency of the Tesla and the access to the Supercharger network, but I like the styling and greater feeling of solidity (possibly a consequence of the greater weight and structural rigidity). Given I've never been one to follow the crowd, I'll choose the Seal. Looking forward to your comparison video.
@@madnessmav OMG. it’s insane. I absolutely love it. Charges easily and fairly quickly at home. It’s gorgeous. Smooth, quiet, easy, stunning to look at - I chose arctic blue. Everyone is impressed!!
@@JacquiCollet thank you for getting back to me. I bloody cannot wait to get ours, we ended up going for the Atlantis Grey, I love the fact it can look a purple/blue colour at times. Good to hear you’re loving it 😁
I’ve just driven one. I was quite impressed with the finish and the build. I only concern is that every time I get into it I knock my head on the A pillar
I have a Performance (Excellence) on order in Australia, Should arrive within the next couple of weeks. The price in Aus are much cheaper than in the UK since we don't have paranoia tax here. 36,000 pounds here.
Under $70k drive away on a novated lease and no FBT! Have a Performance, had it about two months. Really have liked it so far. Horrible service though. Only downfall thus far. Insist you get the latest software upgrade before delivery, we did and it was updated. Much quieter warnings et cetera. But brought it in for its 5k kms service and they dropped it back to the older version. Extremely loud warnings and insanely annoying. Have contacted them but no response yet. Just insist yours gets it and keeps it at your first free service. Cheers
They can't, in Europe they're selling 2X the price of China but they're being criticized by the politicians for dumping which is another name for putting overpriced VW out of business. You gotta understand that established car makers like VW and Toyota holds a lot of political power in Western countries
Well balanced review! Very realistic and i can relate. I am picking up the Seal performance Awd hopefully next week...cant wait...The factors that dictated the purchase.... 1: Body styling and finish 2: Interior is a step ahead imo 3: Rear seats are more comfortable with better leg room 4: Pricing 5:Availability Hard to pass up...
I was looking forward to this one mate. And I really like it! In my humble opinion, people can't get their head around the fact Chinese Brands will be soon taking over the usual suspects like Tesla, Polestar, BMW, etc.. think it's a future that not many people are ready to accept but just think about it for a moment: how many Chinese components modern cars have? From batteries to wires, from shared platform to chassis... and everything else you can think about a car have been made in a Chinese factory. Just let this sink in, nothing we can do about it
Yes, a lot of those slating Chinese cars are often pretty much already driving one, watching the video on a Chinese device etc. there’s very little that’s not made there now.
I've something to add to your comment 1) Polestar is actually a Chinese brand 2) BMW sells the majority of its EVs in China 3) Tesla builds the majority of its cars in Giga Shanghai When it comes to next generation cars China is the biggest player, they've been putting a lot of resources in R&D of next generation cars
As a current Tesla Model 3 owner I would like to point out a couple of things. LFP batteries (including those in Teslas) have a slower charge rate than NMC. It is a limitation of their chemistry. If you want long range and AWD in a Tesla, you have to accept a NMC battery. The Tesla Model 3 is 300kg lighter than the Seal. When compared with vehicles of the same weight class (ie 2.1 tons) the Seal’s efficiency is pretty competitive. The weight savings are evident in the feel of the car. There is a reason Tesla has specific instructions on how to close the bonnet so you don’t dent it. I have test driven the Seal RWD 82kWh and AWD 82kWh versions (called Premium and Performance here in NZ). The HUD is not the equivalent of “best in class”. That prize goes to vehicles from BMW, VW Group and Mercedes. It has adequate readouts for speed, modes and warnings but lacks any sort of navigation indication or traffic awareness. Both displays benefit from being put in “Dark Mode” and the driver’s display could also do with having a few more layout options (as you pointed out). Perhaps a map like the Polestar 2 has? The safety systems settings can be accessed from the quick menu (pull down from top of screen). Their annoyance factor (and the fact they reset every start) is the fault of the pointy headed bureaucrats at NCAP, not BYD. At least the Seal has Blind Spot Warning in the side mirrors. Like Tesla, there are no “option packs” which seem to plague European cars, where you have to option up the vehicle to get things that come as standard on the BYD or Tesla. It’s funny how UK reviewers think the indicators on the right and wipers on the left is the wrong way round. Most cars in NZ, Australia, India, Japan, Thailand, etc that aren’t from USA/Euro origin have that layout and in fact, UK built cars were that way for decades until they became Europe’s bitch. Also, with exception of UK and USA, most cars state efficiency per 100km, be that litres/100km or kWh/100km. But that is only software and should be easy to toggle. Incidentally, when I tested the Seal you drove in the review (the Performance) I got 15.0kWh/100km (4.1mi/kWh). My 2022 Model 3 RWD does 13kWh/100km. I dispute your comment about Tesla being accurate with their claimed range compared to WLTP. They are among the worst. Finally, were you trolling by driving past the Tesla service centre during your review (9:58) or was it just a coincidence? 😂
Uk reviewers review UK cars mate. Simple as that. We have differing opinions on the WLTP thing, I own one and have had almost every current EV for a week on test; my opinion is formed on my own experience. The Tesla place is near my house but thought it would make for a nice Easter egg 👍
Got to agree on the layout of the signal and wiper stalks. The reason why RHD cars had signal stalks on the right hand is to keep your left hand less busy with movements. I drove manual cars and I cannot understand why UK prefer signal stalks on the left and think it is the right place to be. At junctions with busy turns, my left hand have to toggle between gear changes and left signal stalk. I find that RHD with signal stalk on the right is actually a very logical location. I recalled back in 2000, Proton had their signal stalk switch from right to left on their Impian because they want to impart the "European" feel to the car which I thought is just silly.
@@hermesliteratus882Easily! I don't even see a comparison between the two...! BYD spells disaster for ol Elon...he had better pull his socks up and get the scissors out...😂
Would be great for me and thanks for the great video as ever BUT big screens and endless touch screen routes to do simple actions feels distracting and unsafe. Am I wrong?
Superb review abd and I've watched many on the Seal and Model 3. I've narrowed my next car between Model 3 Long Range, BYD Seal (can't decide between Design or Excellence), and perhaps Porsche Taycan GTS second hand.
I was literally laughing for a minute at your unusual choice of comparative storage unit. I think the double-take afterwards made it. Very well played. Another great vid. Fascinating car. I was wondering what impact the likes of these reasonably priced luxury EVs from China will have on the market. Can't help but feel it's a good time to be patient with the EV market as prices continue to show some notable downward momentum. Add in the next generation and I feel EVs could be even more affordable very soon.
Great review again Jim, nice one! I do love the look of this thing, and that interior looks great as well. It is a shame there are a few things letting it down but overall it does look like a very worthy contender. How ironic that with all the tech in and on such a car the good old DAB radio is such a let down 😬
Very worthy contender is a great summary. To be fair, this one was a pre-production model so I’d hope the DAB issue doesn’t exist in retail examples. I just don’t know for sure. 👍
For me, I don't like the way Tesla have so much tech integrated, and it's so minimalist. I want a proper speedo in front of me (not down to the left on a screen), I want a gear-shift (not on a touch screen)... I want indicator stalks. I want a few physical easy-reach single function buttons, not have to got thru a screen (which is unsafe when driving).
Exterior styling is better than the tesla but interior on either is awful . If i wanted an Ipad stuck to my dashboard I'd just buy an old beemer and do that. Still, trying to press 20 icons to change the heating whilst driving is progress right?
I would choose the BYD Seal over a Tesla in a heart beat! However the only concern is the lack of support/maintenance infrastructure eg servicing, repairs and replacement parts etc.
I’ve mentioned in several videos that BYD claims to have a 48hr supply chain. There are very few parts on these cars so supply chains are rather more straightforward than with ICEs; unless you read the Daily Mail.
I'm in Thailand and planning to get one for Christmas this year. I'll see if I can get an all wheel drive model. I don't know what model of BYD Thailand are making. May be I can buy it off the production line.
Excellent review and good to see your films steadily getting more and more polished as time goes on. Testament to you sticking at it, with a well deserved increase in subs.
It looks a decent car Jim but definitely one to lease. That motoised screen, I can see that being a headache to fix. Its like manufacturers dont care at all about long term owners who will support them via spares and service outside the warranty if treated fairly. But most manufacturers are this way now so BYD isn't unique.
We test drove this one about 2 months ago. VERY comfy and drove very well. Too many 'bings' & 'bongs' for my liking. BUT... the regen braking (although set to max) was near non existent. And switching between 'modes' wasn't instant like on most cars. I switched to Sport mode when pulling away from a junction, and you could count to 3 or 4 before it decided to 'engage' and only then did the hyper drive engage and Whoooooshhhh off it flewww..!!! We thought it was 'nice' but at least £10k overpriced.
@@fatdoi003 ‘they want to retain the coasting characteristic of ICE cars’…. VW don’t do it, Kia don’t do it, Polestar don’t do it, Hyundai don’t do it, Tesla don’t do it, Audi don’t do it, even the sales manager agreed with me it wasn’t the best. Total salesplaining if ever i heard it
@@nicksportster8711 features that distinguish between brands... you know those regen just software.... any company can program how their regen works.... BYD prefers coasting.... if you don't like it, look elsewhere
Definitely recommend checking out Nio. Much nicer interior than Tesla, battery swap, and LIDAR. They've even got a shortcut on the homescreen to turn off speed alerts (no excuse for BYD and others to not have this. You might have to go to the Netherlands to test one though; not sure about their plans to have a right side drive, but they're all over Germany and the Nordics.
You can add shortcut on the BYD to remove the warning sounds. But the NIO costs much more compared to the BYD or Tesla. So no wonder it might have a nicer interior then.
I own a BYD Seal AWD, and switching off the TSR system literally takes 2 seconds on start up. It's muscle memory at this stage. Overall I've no complaints about the quality or performance of the car. Drove BMW for years beforehand and would put them very close in terms of both metrics. The current UI is a bit basic, and not as refined as other EVs/Hybrids. Hoping they improve this with updates over time.
NIO do some development in the UK but won’t be launching their cars there any time soon. The main problem is planning consent for the battery swap locations & related costs.
I have a performance on order, but delivery has been delayed until at least july. I have to be honest, if the tesla model 3 in my country were priced similarly as the seal, I would definitely get that. But no, the tesla m3 here is double the price of the seal performance, and it’s the standard range version too. Also, there’s no tesla supercharger network here. So I think it’s a no brainer for people who want a high performance EV. The alternatives are the hyundai ioniq 6, which is 75% more expensive, or the kia ev6, which is twice the price. And both are slower than the seal.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru indonesia. Tesla is only sold by importers here, hence the lack of the supercharger network. That’s also the reason for the eye watering price tag.
I think the main problem is you're buying an unknown brand (in the UK) that is a little worse in most ways than a Tesla model 3 for nearly the same price. Needs to be cheaper. Maybe 5 to 10k below the rest or 100 a month less. Otherwise the only reasons for choosing it is to be different or because you like indicator stalks and can't live without them. In which case this or a used Tesla model 3. I'd still go Tesla with that supercharger network. BYD needs a USP I feel.
👍 interesting points, I’d love to see more old brands being bought back like MG did, I feel we’re resistant to new badges here at times, especially from Chinese brands (despite much of many cars now being manufactured there)
@@fatdoi003 because Tesla is a known quantity now. When they first launched model 3 it was pretty cheap. And you don't get the key advantage of a specialised charging network.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru definitely. The companies reputation in the UK is not known and thus they seem a bit of a gamble despite being available elsewhere for longer. What will depreciation be like? Lots of new interesting models coming out from China. There's nothing that really makes this seal stand out in an increasingly crowded market at this price IMO. MG has been around a while now and started out as price as it's USP. Now creeping up a bit. Still great value. Interesting to see how well seal holds its value.
awesome car, thanks for the video! not sure what is worse to support though - Elon or Chinese world domination 🙂. the basic version would be fine for me (but I think the HUD only comes with the high end). If prices go down a bit or if I find a good used one, that would be my choice. cheers from GER
I think byd only outsold Tesla in Q4 2023 when people were waiting for the new m3.they sell more phev than bev worldwide. But I still wouldn't buy a Chinese owned branded car
Whatever the reasons, it’s a fact. I would imagine a Chinese sales made on the majority of those numbers but the intent is to become a worldwide giant.
This is a great looking car, but does it only come as a saloon? That body shape should really be a hatchback. The Tesla model 3 misses out only being a saloon, but this is what they like in the US & China.
I've decided I don't want a car with a huge stuck on screen in the centre (what did you start Elon?). Distracting and I think they ruin the look of the interior. I prefer the 7" screen in my ten year old SLK. It has all the information I require on it. I would however love a good head up display.
I like the car but I wouldn't consider one for one simple reason. BYD are treating us as cash machines, the dynamic version of this car costs £26k in Australia, so why are we paying so much more?
You know that's not BYD fault. They have no control over your local tariffs, taxes and import duties, etc. Australia does not have a domestic car industry to protect.
And about £25k on a novated lease. Not cool there’s that much difference for the exact same car. Usually our cars are more, and over the $100k mark they become crazy with LCT, so odd that it’s actually less for this Seal.
It’s just too expensive, even if I was interested in an EV, but I’m not. ICE for me😊. Also, hate all this touch screen control panel. What’s wrong with buttons.
An indicator stalk on the wrong side for a Brit......?!!. Don't worry...... it's regarded by us aussies as being on the correct side......poms definitely are strange. The bongs are so subtle now it's not a problem anymore. It's got stuff that works including blind spot WARNING.......how about that Elon !.
I have 600 KMs in the bank and every morning, (safely and for a million miles) compared to 400 in the Tesla. And it cost less than the cheapest Tesla in Australia !!!.
I wish BYD all the best, but I can't see myself buying a Chinese brand when a Tesla can be purchased for similar money. Plus I know that insurance companies do not really like a car brand that doesn't have a great network for replacement parts.
Now if BYD sold it for 10k less than a Tesla or 100 pound less a month on lease one could be very tempted. Otherwise you're buying a slightly worse Tesla model 3 for the same or more.
At least i won't be seeing as many bloody white tesla's on the road. I don't even own one and I'm already sick of looking at them. Plus I have no time for Musk.
Was that a mistake 3.2kw per mile??? @ domestic rates 29p per kw thats £1 per mile ! Thats 7 times more expensive than an ICE doing 10 miles per litre and god knows how much more at a charging station. 16:47
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru No not a trick question genuinely interested. Now I'm wondering where you get electric from at 7.5p per hour as the average rate is 29p just google it.
Octopus and several others do EV tariffs, just google it - my Model Y costs £4.50 to charge from zero to 100% - with a real world range of say 240 miles thats under 2p per mile.
I would never have one if I didn;t have a drive to charge on a at home but if you do it can be a very cheap way to get around, I think lease pricing now is almost at parity with petrol and diesel cars and protects you from harsh depreciation a bit, and the used market has plenty of bargains.
@DefinitelyNotAGuru for sure, been following them for 2 years. My favourite Avatr 12, Zeeker 007 and Yang Wang U8 , the floating car will definitely sell well in dubai after the flooding, not to mention the flying cars. While the Europe will be using petrol cars China will use flying cars.
hate Tesla like i hate Apple! minimalism doesnt have to equal white plain and boring! Both made in China using the same elements other competitors are using!
You do know BMW , Ford , Volvo , Buick , Polestar,Tesla and VW's all have models made in China , you really don't have a clue do you? You probably wrote that on your Chinese made phone as well 😂🤣
@@davefitzpatrick4841 wow you are very smart I did not know this you are such a brilliant mind thank you for educate me on this subject ❤️. BYD is Chinese owned you muppet not a joint venture manufacturing you mentioned above (excluding Tesla), behind all Chinese companies is the CCP, so I would not go nowhere near to these spywares on wheels.
😂There is too much reliable evidence that BYD E.V.s are prone to bursting into flames and their Airbags are failing to inflate on collision.We are a good few years away from full developement of the Genre. The car looks attractive enough on the outside and the interior looks alright apart from the awful looking Television screen.I think this is a design aspect that a number of E.V.s have adopted that is unnecessary and a distraction to good driving practice.
Totally unreliable evidence. Byd is the best selling ev here in Asean, especially Thailand. By a wide margin. They have been on our roads for almost two years and are becoming a common sight as Toyotas. I am still waiting for their first case of battery fire.
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I’ve owned the AWD Seal for 5 months now and I love the car. The driver’s and main display look much better in dark mode. There is also a “basic” drivers display with less graphics. There are 2 levels to the under floor storage. Here in Thailand the safety bongs can be switched off once and stay off. BYDs are expensive in Europe compared to Australia and SEA. I think because the EU keeps accusing Chinese manufacturers of dumping (you wanted them to be more expensive - ok then) Teslas don’t come with V2L, I have my Seal hooked up to my solar system to give over 6 Tesla Powerwalls of home backup power - videos on my channel for the doubters
I’m still not a fan of the DIS in dark mode to be honest. Minor gripe though.
How are you holding up with the plinging and plonging from the safety systems? I test drived the car yesterday, and 6 liked the car, but I found all the sounds very distracting.
@@Christian-cy2pn Hi, ive owned the Premium model for 2 months and have no regrets, love the comfort, power, features, build quality & styling. The only beep that can be annoying is when exceeding the speed limit, but that can be turned off with 2 touches of the screen via a shortcut.
@Batts42 Thanks for the reply. It's too bad it turns on next time you use the car. Anyways, this car is priced pretty good in norway at the moment,so this is a good candidate for our next car. I'm glad you are enjoying it👍
@@Christian-cy2pnI have turned most of bongs off and here in Thailand it stays off.
As an ex 4+ year Model 3 owner driver, the loss of indicators was the last straw. Our RWD Seal is utterly gorgeous as a replacement. Americans haven't a clue about the BYD threat.
I look forward to improvements actually being delivered........... right Elon ?.
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BYD has got the formula right. Great cars, we love our Atto.
lots of reviewers complained about the Seal's non one pedal driving compared to TM3, so how do you find it?
My M3 goes into reverse whenever I use the right indicator. I am told it can't be fixed so am going to trade.
Americans just ban/tax things when they become a threat. Or force the manufacturer to open a plant on native soil. Will be interesting to see how they manage the issue of manufacturers opening production in Mexico.
Another nicely presented video Jim. I really like the BYD; I enjoyed my test drive of it during Everything Electric and it drove favourably when compared to the Model 3 I drove last year. Given a choice, I think I'd struggle to choose. I love the efficiency of the Tesla and the access to the Supercharger network, but I like the styling and greater feeling of solidity (possibly a consequence of the greater weight and structural rigidity). Given I've never been one to follow the crowd, I'll choose the Seal. Looking forward to your comparison video.
It’s a lovely car Marvin, stunning looking thing to my eyes too. 👍
Great balanced review as always. I have no problem with a Chinese built car, I think the days of mass European built cars are disappearing.
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Can’t wait to pick up my seal tomorrow!!
I’m sure you’ll love it
How is your new Seal?? Ours comes in a few weeks 😬😬😬
@@madnessmav OMG. it’s insane. I absolutely love it. Charges easily and fairly quickly at home. It’s gorgeous. Smooth, quiet, easy, stunning to look at - I chose arctic blue. Everyone is impressed!!
@@JacquiCollet thank you for getting back to me. I bloody cannot wait to get ours, we ended up going for the Atlantis Grey, I love the fact it can look a purple/blue colour at times. Good to hear you’re loving it 😁
I’ve just driven one. I was quite impressed with the finish and the build. I only concern is that every time I get into it I knock my head on the A pillar
I have a Performance (Excellence) on order in Australia, Should arrive within the next couple of weeks. The price in Aus are much cheaper than in the UK since we don't have paranoia tax here. 36,000 pounds here.
Nice 👍
Under $70k drive away on a novated lease and no FBT! Have a Performance, had it about two months. Really have liked it so far. Horrible service though. Only downfall thus far. Insist you get the latest software upgrade before delivery, we did and it was updated. Much quieter warnings et cetera. But brought it in for its 5k kms service and they dropped it back to the older version. Extremely loud warnings and insanely annoying. Have contacted them but no response yet. Just insist yours gets it and keeps it at your first free service. Cheers
BYD would be more interesting if they could bring the price point closer to what it is in China. Obviously I understand it is not all their fault.
Yes, taxes, duties, shipping etc don’t help but I’m sure there will be some great lease deals in time
japanese cars in japan only 1/2 price compared to uk..... so what's the point?
They can't, in Europe they're selling 2X the price of China but they're being criticized by the politicians for dumping which is another name for putting overpriced VW out of business.
You gotta understand that established car makers like VW and Toyota holds a lot of political power in Western countries
Well balanced review! Very realistic and i can relate. I am picking up the Seal performance Awd hopefully next week...cant wait...The factors that dictated the purchase....
1: Body styling and finish
2: Interior is a step ahead imo
3: Rear seats are more comfortable with better leg room
4: Pricing
5:Availability
Hard to pass up...
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I was looking forward to this one mate. And I really like it! In my humble opinion, people can't get their head around the fact Chinese Brands will be soon taking over the usual suspects like Tesla, Polestar, BMW, etc.. think it's a future that not many people are ready to accept but just think about it for a moment: how many Chinese components modern cars have? From batteries to wires, from shared platform to chassis... and everything else you can think about a car have been made in a Chinese factory. Just let this sink in, nothing we can do about it
Yes, a lot of those slating Chinese cars are often pretty much already driving one, watching the video on a Chinese device etc. there’s very little that’s not made there now.
Polestar, which belongs to Volvo is owned by Geely (chinese oem）😂
@@vienna0810 Volvo owns 48% of polestar, having founded the business in 2017 in partnership with Geely. So??
@@ProbablyNotGoodEnough so...since geely is the parent company of volvo now ... What does it mean 🤯 think about it. Or better , try google
I've something to add to your comment
1) Polestar is actually a Chinese brand
2) BMW sells the majority of its EVs in China
3) Tesla builds the majority of its cars in Giga Shanghai
When it comes to next generation cars China is the biggest player, they've been putting a lot of resources in R&D of next generation cars
Hi Jimbo great review but definitely better as a lease than a buy 👍
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I found your review refreshing after watching the rest. I share you opinion on the UI
Awesome, thank you!
Another great show. 😊
Thank you Glen
As a current Tesla Model 3 owner I would like to point out a couple of things.
LFP batteries (including those in Teslas) have a slower charge rate than NMC. It is a limitation of their chemistry. If you want long range and AWD in a Tesla, you have to accept a NMC battery. The Tesla Model 3 is 300kg lighter than the Seal. When compared with vehicles of the same weight class (ie 2.1 tons) the Seal’s efficiency is pretty competitive. The weight savings are evident in the feel of the car. There is a reason Tesla has specific instructions on how to close the bonnet so you don’t dent it.
I have test driven the Seal RWD 82kWh and AWD 82kWh versions (called Premium and Performance here in NZ). The HUD is not the equivalent of “best in class”. That prize goes to vehicles from BMW, VW Group and Mercedes. It has adequate readouts for speed, modes and warnings but lacks any sort of navigation indication or traffic awareness.
Both displays benefit from being put in “Dark Mode” and the driver’s display could also do with having a few more layout options (as you pointed out). Perhaps a map like the Polestar 2 has? The safety systems settings can be accessed from the quick menu (pull down from top of screen). Their annoyance factor (and the fact they reset every start) is the fault of the pointy headed bureaucrats at NCAP, not BYD. At least the Seal has Blind Spot Warning in the side mirrors.
Like Tesla, there are no “option packs” which seem to plague European cars, where you have to option up the vehicle to get things that come as standard on the BYD or Tesla.
It’s funny how UK reviewers think the indicators on the right and wipers on the left is the wrong way round. Most cars in NZ, Australia, India, Japan, Thailand, etc that aren’t from USA/Euro origin have that layout and in fact, UK built cars were that way for decades until they became Europe’s bitch. Also, with exception of UK and USA, most cars state efficiency per 100km, be that litres/100km or kWh/100km. But that is only software and should be easy to toggle. Incidentally, when I tested the Seal you drove in the review (the Performance) I got 15.0kWh/100km (4.1mi/kWh). My 2022 Model 3 RWD does 13kWh/100km. I dispute your comment about Tesla being accurate with their claimed range compared to WLTP. They are among the worst.
Finally, were you trolling by driving past the Tesla service centre during your review (9:58) or was it just a coincidence? 😂
Uk reviewers review UK cars mate. Simple as that.
We have differing opinions on the WLTP thing, I own one and have had almost every current EV for a week on test; my opinion is formed on my own experience.
The Tesla place is near my house but thought it would make for a nice Easter egg 👍
Got to agree on the layout of the signal and wiper stalks. The reason why RHD cars had signal stalks on the right hand is to keep your left hand less busy with movements. I drove manual cars and I cannot understand why UK prefer signal stalks on the left and think it is the right place to be. At junctions with busy turns, my left hand have to toggle between gear changes and left signal stalk. I find that RHD with signal stalk on the right is actually a very logical location. I recalled back in 2000, Proton had their signal stalk switch from right to left on their Impian because they want to impart the "European" feel to the car which I thought is just silly.
Absolutely love it but beyond my price range. That said it is a luxury vehicle in my book.
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The build quality is obviously better than that of Tesla.
@@hermesliteratus882Easily! I don't even see a comparison between the two...! BYD spells disaster for ol Elon...he had better pull his socks up and get the scissors out...😂
Would be great for me and thanks for the great video as ever BUT big screens and endless touch screen routes to do simple actions feels distracting and unsafe. Am I wrong?
Maybe, maybe not. I guess a lot depends on the individual. 👍
The car will drive without the need to touch the screen. It really depends on ones self control.
Superb review abd and I've watched many on the Seal and Model 3. I've narrowed my next car between Model 3 Long Range, BYD Seal (can't decide between Design or Excellence), and perhaps Porsche Taycan GTS second hand.
All great cars 👍
I was literally laughing for a minute at your unusual choice of comparative storage unit.
I think the double-take afterwards made it.
Very well played.
Another great vid.
Fascinating car. I was wondering what impact the likes of these reasonably priced luxury EVs from China will have on the market.
Can't help but feel it's a good time to be patient with the EV market as prices continue to show some notable downward momentum. Add in the next generation and I feel EVs could be even more affordable very soon.
😉Lease new, buy used is the way to go in my eyes.
Nice exterior and interior design. Plan to get mine later this year :)
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Very interesting, informative, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great review again Jim, nice one! I do love the look of this thing, and that interior looks great as well. It is a shame there are a few things letting it down but overall it does look like a very worthy contender. How ironic that with all the tech in and on such a car the good old DAB radio is such a let down 😬
Very worthy contender is a great summary.
To be fair, this one was a pre-production model so I’d hope the DAB issue doesn’t exist in retail examples. I just don’t know for sure. 👍
For me, I don't like the way Tesla have so much tech integrated, and it's so minimalist. I want a proper speedo in front of me (not down to the left on a screen), I want a gear-shift (not on a touch screen)... I want indicator stalks. I want a few physical easy-reach single function buttons, not have to got thru a screen (which is unsafe when driving).
I think a lot of people share that opinion but big screens don't seem to be gong away
Exterior styling is better than the tesla but interior on either is awful . If i wanted an Ipad stuck to my dashboard I'd just buy an old beemer and do that. Still, trying to press 20 icons to change the heating whilst driving is progress right?
It’s all down to personal taste at the end of the day.
Has some of those features on the steering wheel buttons fyi
I would choose the BYD Seal over a Tesla in a heart beat! However the only concern is the lack of support/maintenance infrastructure eg servicing, repairs and replacement parts etc.
I think all of that is growing at a rate of knots, in the UK anyway
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Say owning a Seal, and you get into an accident. Where can you go for repairs and replacement parts?
@@princeD1100 I totally agree, all car reviewers never touch on the subject of spares backup.
I’ve mentioned in several videos that BYD claims to have a 48hr supply chain. There are very few parts on these cars so supply chains are rather more straightforward than with ICEs; unless you read the Daily Mail.
A very nice car talking about DAB radio mine in the Kona it is rubbish you get a couple of minutes then cuts out for 5 minutes. Great review.
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BYDs radio has AM/FM/DAB+ and Internet for good measure. Great stuff.
Just Bluetooth from your phone.
I'm in Thailand and planning to get one for Christmas this year. I'll see if I can get an all wheel drive model.
I don't know what model of BYD Thailand are making. May be I can buy it off the production line.
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Excellent review and good to see your films steadily getting more and more polished as time goes on. Testament to you sticking at it, with a well deserved increase in subs.
Much appreciated Rusty, glad the extra effort is paying off 👍
It looks a decent car Jim but definitely one to lease. That motoised screen, I can see that being a headache to fix. Its like manufacturers dont care at all about long term owners who will support them via spares and service outside the warranty if treated fairly. But most manufacturers are this way now so BYD isn't unique.
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Looks beautiful,a touch of the EV6 about it,but not for me,same reason I will not buy a Tesla,hate the touch screen.
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You can charge it up to 100% it's not going to massively degrade the battery.
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We test drove this one about 2 months ago. VERY comfy and drove very well. Too many 'bings' & 'bongs' for my liking. BUT... the regen braking (although set to max) was near non existent. And switching between 'modes' wasn't instant like on most cars. I switched to Sport mode when pulling away from a junction, and you could count to 3 or 4 before it decided to 'engage' and only then did the hyper drive engage and Whoooooshhhh off it flewww..!!! We thought it was 'nice' but at least £10k overpriced.
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Bings and bongs gone as per latest update
BYD regen comes in when you do initial braking, they want to retain the coasting characteristic of ICE cars for smoother driving
@@fatdoi003 ‘they want to retain the coasting characteristic of ICE cars’…. VW don’t do it, Kia don’t do it, Polestar don’t do it, Hyundai don’t do it, Tesla don’t do it, Audi don’t do it, even the sales manager agreed with me it wasn’t the best. Total salesplaining if ever i heard it
@@nicksportster8711 features that distinguish between brands... you know those regen just software.... any company can program how their regen works.... BYD prefers coasting.... if you don't like it, look elsewhere
Dont worry about the trafficators. What I dislike about Teslas is when pulling out from the curb and you indicate right the car goes into reverse.
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Definitely recommend checking out Nio. Much nicer interior than Tesla, battery swap, and LIDAR. They've even got a shortcut on the homescreen to turn off speed alerts (no excuse for BYD and others to not have this. You might have to go to the Netherlands to test one though; not sure about their plans to have a right side drive, but they're all over Germany and the Nordics.
They look very cool, we don't get them here however
You can add shortcut on the BYD to remove the warning sounds.
But the NIO costs much more compared to the BYD or Tesla. So no wonder it might have a nicer interior then.
I own a BYD Seal AWD, and switching off the TSR system literally takes 2 seconds on start up. It's muscle memory at this stage. Overall I've no complaints about the quality or performance of the car. Drove BMW for years beforehand and would put them very close in terms of both metrics. The current UI is a bit basic, and not as refined as other EVs/Hybrids. Hoping they improve this with updates over time.
NIO do some development in the UK but won’t be launching their cars there any time soon. The main problem is planning consent for the battery swap locations & related costs.
About your USB port complaint: Just plug in a short (6 to 8 inches) USB cable that is always plugged in.
It does t make it any less annoying to me.
Great looking car!
I think so too!
FYI you can already change the driver display and remove that constantly changing icon you said distracted you.
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I have a performance on order, but delivery has been delayed until at least july. I have to be honest, if the tesla model 3 in my country were priced similarly as the seal, I would definitely get that. But no, the tesla m3 here is double the price of the seal performance, and it’s the standard range version too. Also, there’s no tesla supercharger network here. So I think it’s a no brainer for people who want a high performance EV. The alternatives are the hyundai ioniq 6, which is 75% more expensive, or the kia ev6, which is twice the price. And both are slower than the seal.
Oh really? Where do you live, it’s crazy how prices change so very much from country to country.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru indonesia. Tesla is only sold by importers here, hence the lack of the supercharger network. That’s also the reason for the eye watering price tag.
I predict the residule values in 3 years will be absolutely stellar.
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If you sell a car after 3 years, you have no issues with money. I keep mine for 10.
@@info78110 years...probably find its costing you as much as getting a new car... maintenance loss of value ect...sure you are doing the maths?
FYI reviewer in Australia saw 310 miles real world road trip range in rwd version.
Nice, I'm guessing the temperature was probably helpful
I think the main problem is you're buying an unknown brand (in the UK) that is a little worse in most ways than a Tesla model 3 for nearly the same price. Needs to be cheaper. Maybe 5 to 10k below the rest or 100 a month less. Otherwise the only reasons for choosing it is to be different or because you like indicator stalks and can't live without them. In which case this or a used Tesla model 3. I'd still go Tesla with that supercharger network. BYD needs a USP I feel.
👍 interesting points, I’d love to see more old brands being bought back like MG did, I feel we’re resistant to new badges here at times, especially from Chinese brands (despite much of many cars now being manufactured there)
Seal's build quality is much better than TM3 and ride quality is superior.... there're pros n cons between the 2 so why should BYD priced below Tesla?
@@fatdoi003 because Tesla is a known quantity now. When they first launched model 3 it was pretty cheap. And you don't get the key advantage of a specialised charging network.
@@paultasker7788 lol..... when tesla launched it was priced really high and now getting cheaper n cheaper....
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru definitely. The companies reputation in the UK is not known and thus they seem a bit of a gamble despite being available elsewhere for longer. What will depreciation be like? Lots of new interesting models coming out from China. There's nothing that really makes this seal stand out in an increasingly crowded market at this price IMO. MG has been around a while now and started out as price as it's USP. Now creeping up a bit. Still great value. Interesting to see how well seal holds its value.
Looks like a very well specced car. Unfortunately it wouldn’t tempt me away from Kia / Hyundai. Too many concerns about warranty, servicing, parts etc
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£220 for the top version on a salary sacrifice scheme. Fully loaded Polestar or I4 at least £200 dearer
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One thing it looks far nicer than the Tesla it doesn’t look like a kit car
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So its ok to fiddle with an i pad whilst driving now? Why is texting illegal then? Surely your taking your attention off the road in the same way
Yep, weird one but that’s the case
Who is going to service a BYD car and are there sufficient dealers with service departments to support the sales.
Should be 60 dealerships by the end of the year, currently 20 something.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Thank you for your reply and will they all have service department to support the electric cars.
I guess so, very few moving parts so not the most complex compared to an ICE - Tesla does most of their stuff on your drive
Service what exactly? Do your brakes and tyres at Kwik Fit.
awesome car, thanks for the video! not sure what is worse to support though - Elon or Chinese world domination 🙂.
the basic version would be fine for me (but I think the HUD only comes with the high end).
If prices go down a bit or if I find a good used one, that would be my choice.
cheers from GER
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If I had the money, I'd buy the model 3... greater efficiency means cheaper running costs 🙂
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@@DefinitelyNotAGuru although I am annoyed about the removal of the indicator stalks - first world problems eh
I think byd only outsold Tesla in Q4 2023 when people were waiting for the new m3.they sell more phev than bev worldwide. But I still wouldn't buy a Chinese owned branded car
Whatever the reasons, it’s a fact. I would imagine a Chinese sales made on the majority of those numbers but the intent is to become a worldwide giant.
People are happy to buy Volvo, Lotus and London Black Taxis
Nice review n funny a bit
Thanks
There are more than 1 graphical layout to choose from on the instrument display.
All horrible
This is a great looking car, but does it only come as a saloon? That body shape should really be a hatchback. The Tesla model 3 misses out only being a saloon, but this is what they like in the US & China.
Yes, I agree a hatch in both cars would be better
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I understand the seats are genuine leather for all but the base model.
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How is the charging network for longer trips for non tesla cars?
It’s fine in most areas, Cornwall still lacking
I've decided I don't want a car with a huge stuck on screen in the centre (what did you start Elon?). Distracting and I think they ruin the look of the interior. I prefer the 7" screen in my ten year old SLK. It has all the information I require on it. I would however love a good head up display.
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I like the car but I wouldn't consider one for one simple reason. BYD are treating us as cash machines, the dynamic version of this car costs £26k in Australia, so why are we paying so much more?
You know that's not BYD fault. They have no control over your local tariffs, taxes and import duties, etc. Australia does not have a domestic car industry to protect.
Taxes, duties and tariffs, it’s your government not BYD
Middleman government.
You need to research international trade deals and maritime shipping to understand why.
And about £25k on a novated lease. Not cool there’s that much difference for the exact same car. Usually our cars are more, and over the $100k mark they become crazy with LCT, so odd that it’s actually less for this Seal.
It’s just too expensive, even if I was interested in an EV, but I’m not. ICE for me😊. Also, hate all this touch screen control panel. What’s wrong with buttons.
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An indicator stalk on the wrong side for a Brit......?!!. Don't worry...... it's regarded by us aussies as being on the correct side......poms definitely are strange.
The bongs are so subtle now it's not a problem anymore. It's got stuff that works including blind spot WARNING.......how about that Elon !.
I have 600 KMs in the bank and every morning, (safely and for a million miles) compared to 400 in the Tesla. And it cost less than the cheapest Tesla in Australia !!!.
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It's not the cars that people don't like, it's more likely to be Musk. His far-right views are disgraceful.
I review cars, not humans
I wish BYD all the best, but I can't see myself buying a Chinese brand when a Tesla can be purchased for similar money. Plus I know that insurance companies do not really like a car brand that doesn't have a great network for replacement parts.
👌 BYD has done a lot of work with insurers actually; much more than many new entrants has
Now if BYD sold it for 10k less than a Tesla or 100 pound less a month on lease one could be very tempted. Otherwise you're buying a slightly worse Tesla model 3 for the same or more.
Tesla is also built in China. And it uses BYD’s battery.
@jamesjarman5003 wow really...! I never knew.... Don't tell me us use an iPhone.... as we all know that is 100% true American.
Tesla is made in china idiot
50k, what does this cost in China? I'm guessing we're being ripped off.
We're paying a lot more than in china due to various duties, tariffs, taxes etc
At least i won't be seeing as many bloody white tesla's on the road. I don't even own one and I'm already sick of looking at them. Plus I have no time for Musk.
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Was that a mistake 3.2kw per mile??? @ domestic rates 29p per kw thats £1 per mile ! Thats 7 times more expensive than an ICE doing 10 miles per litre and god knows how much more at a charging station. 16:47
I, like most with home charging, pay 7.5p and of course it should be miles per kw….but I guess you knew that.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru No not a trick question genuinely interested. Now I'm wondering where you get electric from at 7.5p per hour as the average rate is 29p just google it.
Octopus and several others do EV tariffs, just google it - my Model Y costs £4.50 to charge from zero to 100% - with a real world range of say 240 miles thats under 2p per mile.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Thanks new to this, and seeing EV's reaching a 'worth it' tipping point soon.
I would never have one if I didn;t have a drive to charge on a at home but if you do it can be a very cheap way to get around, I think lease pricing now is almost at parity with petrol and diesel cars and protects you from harsh depreciation a bit, and the used market has plenty of bargains.
They keep carrying on about the weight of the seal. We looked it up and my husbands Toyota Camry weighs 2 tonnes….hahaha calm down everyone
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No FSD stick with Tesla
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too expensive needs to be at least 10ķ less as the price in China is so much lower.
Not BYD's fault, it's down to taxes, duties, tariffs etc
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Chinese ev cars will dominate the market all around the world
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@DefinitelyNotAGuru for sure, been following them for 2 years. My favourite Avatr 12, Zeeker 007 and Yang Wang U8 , the floating car will definitely sell well in dubai after the flooding, not to mention the flying cars. While the Europe will be using petrol cars China will use flying cars.
Honest car? Have cars now got a personality ?
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How's your UA-cam channel going Leif?
5th
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No thank you to this BYD. I would by a Tesla over and above this BYD car.
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And I would buy a BYD over Tesla.
Stalemate.
hate Tesla like i hate Apple! minimalism doesnt have to equal white plain and boring! Both made in China using the same elements other competitors are using!
Good for you. Like what you like, but don’t hate on the rest.
Miles? Seriously. Only three countries use miles. Km have been used elsewhere for over 100 years.
The one I'm in uses miles, therefore I talk in miles. We started using miles in 1593, before some countries existed.
China is the best.
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Just another cheap China copy of a Tesla right down to the door handles!
Hmmm...Not cheap, not really a copy, it's a bit different. Handles are very similar to the original Model S but Tesla now has a different design.
9:22 WTF SMALL CHILD UNDER THERE
jokes mate
That screen is so clownish and cheap looking. Made in China no damn way.
Clownish 🤔
Way overpriced
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45k for a Chinese crap, madness 😮
Very far from crap
You do know BMW , Ford , Volvo , Buick , Polestar,Tesla and VW's all have models made in China , you really don't have a clue do you?
You probably wrote that on your Chinese made phone as well 😂🤣
@@davefitzpatrick4841 wow you are very smart I did not know this you are such a brilliant mind thank you for educate me on this subject ❤️. BYD is Chinese owned you muppet not a joint venture manufacturing you mentioned above (excluding Tesla), behind all Chinese companies is the CCP, so I would not go nowhere near to these spywares on wheels.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru would you replace your lovely model y with one of these?
@@gogogee82 it’s the wrong size to replace a Model Y (many of which were also built in China).
😂There is too much reliable evidence that BYD E.V.s are prone to bursting into flames and their Airbags are failing to inflate on collision.We are a good few years away from full developement of the Genre. The car looks attractive enough on the outside and the interior looks alright apart from the awful looking Television screen.I think this is a design aspect that a number of E.V.s have adopted that is unnecessary and a distraction to good driving practice.
Totally unreliable evidence. Byd is the best selling ev here in Asean, especially Thailand. By a wide margin. They have been on our roads for almost two years and are becoming a common sight as Toyotas. I am still waiting for their first case of battery fire.
OPEC funded evidence most likely
My BR ( bladder range) can be shocking....94.2 miles/ litre.......😅
You’re doing well, I’m down to about 50, I have tried a plugin hybrid for the bladder but those Ribena bottles are a tight fit
I believe BYD may only supply the battery for a proportion of Ipads and nothing more
They’ve supplied part for years but have made iPads since 2020
Jim, one of the best reviews of a car I have listened. Best wishes.
Very kind, thank you
I have watched a lot of reviews on this car and you're the first to mention the poor design of the rear USB flap. I had the same concern with kids. 😂
My son would have that cover snapped off within 3 mins
down here in NZ, the 4WD one is selling at just NZ$83990,around 40K GPB.
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ahh a uk review ..nice
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We will not see these in USA for a long time, we will have to look to Britain and Australia for guidance.
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Tesla is so bland in comparison to
To some I’m sure