2022 Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Quick Review // Don’t Hate The Player, Hate The Name
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- Опубліковано 26 тра 2022
- The Ford Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Edition ($90,680 in Canada as specced, $59,900 USD starting) is able to put a strong 480 horsepower and 634 lb-ft of torque to all four wheels. It has a claimed 0-60 time of 3.5 seconds and a 435 km range on a full charge. This is the beefiest and baddest of all Mach-E Mustangs - but it has the price tag to match. Thomas and James dive in to see what this AWD electric Mustang has to offer. We hope you enjoy the episode. Subscribe!!
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I think that driving range should be measured like fuel economy, but instead of city/highway/combined mpg, do warm/cold/combined range in distance. Have the warm test be in sub optimal conditions and the cold test be 32F or below to be fair to everyone in every climate
The amount of money it would take to make a temperature controlled test facility like that probably puts it out of the minds of manufacturers. And also keep in mind the speed at which the car is driven does affect the range, so the testing would now be a set of warm highway, cold highway, warm city, and cold city.
I don't know how to ask this to Thomas, but his range reports really seriously make me question his driving (and particularly braking habits)... I do have a MY and travel around in
@@swaroopajit actually pretty much all cars are already tested in extreme cold and warm conditions for durability testing, so this wouldn’t really be a big deal.
There is a standard of efficiency for electric cars but they never show it on any charts
I agree
I love Thomas' description of how cars feel....he explains feel so well and simple to understand.....in relatable terms...would be a blast to talk cars with you guys
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"On a flat road, in California, downhill..." -I love you James.
The way that you abruptly end the videos on this channel is classic!!
Ikr
Hot Take: The premium videos on the main channel should include this type of conversation between you two. Provides much needed depth.
The videos would be 40 minutes long
main channel is proper cheesy
The wireless carplay works great in my 2021 Chevy Trailblazer. It was terrible at first I actually turned it off and opted for wired because the audio would skip and stutter wirelessly but about 4 months into ownership GM did an OTA update and it's been great since no crashes, no stuttering just works as soon as I get in.
Thank you! You both, Jason Camissa, and Harry’s Garage are the only UA-cam auto review videos worth watching uninterrupted from start to finish.
No love for savagegeese?
savage geese is great... i also enjoy straight pipes I know that is a fo paw on this channel but I still like them. One take by the smoking tire is great, matty maran has some good content as does the POV drive by Topher. Once in awhile I'll tune into petrolicious, carwow drags, or engineering explained as well. Hard pass on the other reviewers that are just walking PR brochures. You know who I speak of.
I love humans, we love hyperbole and stating opinions as fact 😅
@@roshj9371 of course as well as xcar/carfection and peteolucious - I just find that I can watch start to finish those few. The rest can dabble and scan through
Anyone who truly enjoys driving or vehicles it shines through in their content
I am also biased b/c I have much agreed with Adam and James views on the cars they reviewed
@@LafemmebearMusic we are all looking for extremes of affirmation!
I'm rarely this early to Throttle House vids. Glad that you guys got around to the Mach E
You guys are very lucky to be able to live this life and drive all these cars. Just being able to have these conversations with each other discussing cars is a blessing! V jealous and keep it up
On top of the failed marketing this 5 seconds of full power thing makes it totally dead in the water to me. This is what happens when you have a narrow focus on something like 0-60 and decide that it's the only metric that matters. I am so glad you addressed the "5 second rule" as the majority of reviewers gloss right over and it's a really big deal to a performance enthusiast (aka the Mustangs target demographic).
great review! appreciate how you use real world examples when describing pros and cons.
I would love to see Thomas revisit a M2 CS on this channel having owned an OG M2 for a bit now. It would be interesting to see how your opinion may have developed.
12:41 Bruh, them in the background 💀
Love these guys. Their car reviews are the most fun to watch.
James is right this time, its orange. Its a more yellow orange but its orange. And his jacket looks red (on my TV).
It's brown
Then you need to re-calibrate your TV...
It's Papaya. The same colour that McLaren have used in F1 for ages.
Really appreciate the sincere feedback and opinions shared in this review.
Ordered my M Mach E GT in March of this year. Chose it over Premium because better front fascia, cabin, seats and power. Chose it over Y because I liked the looks better. Not a fan of the blank front. S style better. I like sporty everyday cars. This replaces my v6 sedan that is going to my daughter. I still have my C4 vette for that V8 rumble. I’m a car guy. The Mustang styling is perfect for me and drew me in to the EV world. Wife really likes MME sequential tail lights.
It’s funny your wife likes the tail lights. We picked up an R 350 because she liked the red calipers lol
Does Ford make a profit on the Mach-E?
If the COVID-19 pandemic wasn't hard enough on automakers, they're now being pummeled with skyrocketing prices for materials. The prices of raw materials have increased so dramatically that the Ford Mustang Mach-E is no longer profitable.Jun 16, 2022. This is not sustainable for Ford as they are currently $138 billion U.S. dollars in debt 2022. Ford Motor cash on hand for the quarter ending June 30, 2022 was $36.700B, a 10.57% decline year-over-year. Ford Motor cash on hand for 2021 was $49.593B, a 0.74% decline from 2020.
Great review. Thanks for your perspective.
Gents, this was so Freakin’ informative. Your channels and vids are great, but this vid is a great example of how you impart knowledge of things that are rarely covered in reviews. As I kick around options for my first EV, YOU are really helping me avoid a costly mistake. Thank you!
These guys are so great. Thanks for the review.
Thomas, "You have to turn it on!"
James, "That's always too much work for me."
That's why he's the single one, folks!
Love the channel!
james' giggles make these videos all the more entertaining
I agree that the rear wheel drive long range is the best option to get.
Loved this follow up.
Spot on. We have the non-GT you tested and the weight is -considerable-. We did test drive the GT and I am really missing those seats 💔
Also, go back and watch 12:40
I think when the Mach-E was introduced it might have been worth its price, and maybe even the GT version at the time. But many automakers are making competitive EVs now that match the Mach-E, at least as a daily driver. I think you really have to want the Ford to justify its price tag.
The lightning smashes it honestly. I think the only thing it has over it is the sporty ness but if your going sporty there are way better cars for that for less and you can have a DD lightning.
@@bcc5701 the lightening is more expensive in the trims that are available to non-fleet buyers. It also has higher demand and markups.
@@appleiphone69 Town and Country Ford in Alabama doesn't charge a markup for the Lightning or the Bronco's. I know that a LOT of dealers do, but they don't. Back in 2010, I had to go from SC to Ga to get a Shelby GT500 for MSRP cause the dealers in my are were charging 10K or 20K over sticker for them...bastards!!!
@@bcc5701 you may be right, but some people simply have no interest in driving a full-size pickup. Many of the components are shared between the two, so a lot of it comes down to packaging.
@@Mustgtcs07 20k over sticker in 2010? Not in SC.
well done, great video!
GREAT INFO
FUN
GREAT VID
Owning my MME GT for 5 months, this is TOTALLY spot on, everything from power reduction, to weight, to crappy 1 Pedal drive. I didn’t love it and thankfully sold it for more than I paid. A true performance vehicle it is NOT. A fun town light to light grocery getter, it is….Sales are booming, and many who own these came from non performance vehicles so they are simply BLOWN away, but true performance enthusiasts quickly learn that there is a TON missing for its $73K+TTL without an ADM - and many of those enthusiasts have sold there’s that I know of
What did you replace it with?
@@JCizzleSoCal 22 Model 3 Performance
@@andrewrae50 Oh man, great choice! Congratulations.
@@JCizzleSoCal Thx - yeah my first Tesla.. It’s such a better performer than the Mach E GT by literally every measure. Now, perhaps unfair to a degree as one is a sedan and one is a SUV. - but even in terms of tech, charging, handling - I did drop my 3 1.2 on Novitec springs, but things like comfort, sound system, the Tesla is ahead IMO.
its an suv maaaaaannnnnnnnn
Ford should hire you guys as consultants for final production models, the intricacies you tend to find, doing what you guys do, is special.
Car manufacturers should just really ask people who drive what would be a good combo
Loved the b-roll shenanigans, lol.
I’m super curious to see what James gets especially with gas prices.
My guy got a century xd
@@onurgultekin5037 it won’t last long lol 😂 I saw the video
@@robervin9107 Why won't it last long? It's been lasting quite well for the past 15 years if I see correctly.
Let’s just say it didn’t end up being something good on gas lol
@@philorgneopolotin8762 If it were a ICE Suv, I would have hated it as much as I do now
12:40 that crouching lol xD
James nails it on model choice - stick with the low to mid trims. Either long range trims in this (and most other EV's) are great they just need wider rims and tires.
Telsa sport models have silly wide rims and low profile rubber, like rediculous, people kill them all the time with curb rash and tire damage.
my model 3 sport has 18s. bruh.
"I've got NO challenge"..."That's boring!!" Classic! LOL! Great ending!
Thank you for your awesome videos..... You guys and CarWoW are the best..... Thomas you have Seamaster Diver 300M on this video......😉 Right?
Pre-dented my favourite new saying about certain styling cues😂
The wireless CarPlay in my 2022 ZL1 has never glitched once! Go Chevy
...I loved that. Thank you.
Thomas consistently observes important details of cars that one would notice during ownership and only discover long after buying it.
We got our mom her Mach e gt more than a year ago she absolutely loves it I have driven it and it’s amazing very stable the interior is so comfortable and quiet we take it from Ohio to Canada all the time, yes it’s not a road trip car but you know that buying an ev.
Ford missed a great opportunity not naming this thing Galax-E
They already have a current Ford Galaxy in Europe
The Indian model is called the Slurp-E
The Shit-E :)
What is the flashing red light on the dash? Maybe you answer later in video but holy cow i cant unsee it.
Magnaride sucks for repair costs and long term reliability so there's that.
The thunk you are feeling on the stop and go is also a calibration and preload issue with the single speed and electric motor coupling if I were to guess between the multiple motors.
This video helped me decide to save the extra 15 grand to just stick with the premium awd, thank you boys🤙🏼
The best way to feel the weight of a car is to drive it on loose snow. When I drove a Q7 for the first time on snow with no driver aids on, I really felt that "Hey, even if I press the brakes right now as I'm going 35 km/h sideways, I will still slide 15 meters sideways with no control ".
Had I not done that I would've probably continued driving heavy cars like SUVs on slippery surfaces like a Golf.
But you disabled the driving aids..
Honestly, given the competition, Ford was smart to use the Mustang name to sell it. Especially with the price tag
It’s almost as bad as calling it the E-probe. They took a 50+ year name associated with v8 rear wheel drive sports car and slapped it on an electric suv....???????
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 Marketing I guess, everyone loves a familiar name
It's funny, because everyone who likes Mustangs hates it as a name, and everyone who'd never buy a Mustang doesn't mind it, and that crowd is bigger. Does it devalue the Mustang name? Absolutely. But Ford thinks that's a good bet
@@itcangetbetter True that, at the end of the day everyone just wants their paycheck
Love the video, very informative and entertaining. Btw the colour is American processed cheese yellow/orange😂
If your going to get a Mach E get the California Route 1 Edition. RWD Extended range. Bare bones. Love mine. Fun to drive for an EV and has amazing range.
Odd that there were both stairs and an elevator outside where they were filming.
12:42 in case anyone missed
Hmmm. I like a lot of their videos. I don't always agree and this is one I can't agree with. Thomas is trying to make his case but offering very little logic, and James seems to be struggling to affirm him but really just not wanting to disagree. I've had my GTPE since November and it's the best car I've ever had or driven. And that's a lot of cars. I also have a 2016 Mustang GT supercharged making 900 rwhp, which is very scary fun. This is super composed fun. I throw this one around curves at full throttle and never feel like all 4 wheels are going to come loose. The rear wheels kick out giving just a little oversteer and the front motors just keep pulling it around the curve. It's amazing. It's heavy but it feels so nimble to me. The magneride is fantastic. The only two gripes I can see anyone having are 1) 5 second limit truly sucks, and 2) no electronic tilting telescoping steering. Maybe the absence of cooled seats but most women hate them because I think it feels like aunt Flow is visiting. I tested a premium AWD for a while and it did not come compare to the GT at all, in handling or speed. I almost wanted to cancel my GT order after getting out of my Mustang and into the premium. I'm so glad I didn't. The Mach-E GT is just a blast and so practical. That said, it is not my road trip car. I have a 40 amp charger in my garage amd always leave on a full charge. I never use more than 50% of the battery.
You know what's worse than them using the Mustang name (for marketing purposes, which has worked brilliantly), is the ENDLESS WHINING that came after it.
Exactly. I hated the name at first and then realized everyone and their mother knew the Mustang Mach-E name instantly, even after years of the Bolt, Volt, Leaf, BMW offerings. It’s not exactly a Mustang in my book, but damn that name recognition is there. Just the the Lightning will be know as the Electric F150 by the masses. Common folks know what a F150 is, not a Lightning.
Its not yellow.
I agree on the perfect EV configuration. Rear wheel drive long range with a performance motor is the best. I wish Tesla would once again offer a long range rear wheel drive model 3 with the performance motor. It’s so much fun to drive.
i agree about apple car play. it works like 99.99% of the time for me in my 2020 BMW
What's crazy is that an i4 M50 with a couple options is the same price as this...and despite being a visual atrocity is a far better EV. Where does Ford think it's ok to charge this much?
How? It’s got less range, less space, it’s not as good looking… like what objective metric would make the i4 m50 a better EV? I’m not really a fan of either but I don’t see it.
I test drove one.... And I have NO IDEA. The interior was cheap (And I own an F150!), it was a bit boring, and it made a hard "clunk" every time I took off from a stop. These EV prices are a rip off. The base should be $35k at most and this one should be $45k at most. Then add in dealer ripoffs and its a pointless purchase.
Better? I think you got some eyesight issues sir.
I know its taboo to say the T word on car channels, but why would anyone buy this over a Model Y Performance?
Just the fact that the i4 isn't a "ground-up" EV gives it an inherent price advantage. Being based off of a 4-series compared to Ford developing a whole new platform that's purely electric? Manufacturers need to make that R&D money back, y'know? The iX is BMW's XL E-SUV made from scratch and it's eye-wateringly expensive, just for reference.
I have a GT PE, and you're right, it's not worth the upcharge vs a Premium or something like the EV6/Ionic in pure $$$ ROI. But, is any "performance" trim period (not limited to just EVs)? It feels kind of bizarre to hear you guys say those words out loud, and then talk up the GT500 which is even more expensive than a GT PE and only slightly faster to 60 in perfect conditions... Which is faster in the snow? Which is more confident in the rain? Which would you rather drive 1000 miles if you can't wear ear plugs and have to pay for fuel? Is a GT500 really $35k (USD) better than a GT anywhere other than a track?
The 5s thing sucks, it shouldn't be there. Does it matter 95% of the time? No. The car is dangerously quick at any speed south of 80mph. It's honestly scary how quickly you can go from 30->70 mph.
Comments around DCFC infrastructure might be valid in CA, I don't know. It's not like that in the US, in settled areas. Yeah, the infrastructure sucks, it absolutely needs to get better. It sucks even more when you get off major travel corridors, but that is a locale specific problem. For most people, in most cases, it is fine. If you drive long distance a lot, especially to the hinterlands, it totally makes sense that an EV isn't the right solution for you. But is a 13MPG GT500 a better solution? The point of this car, like every other performance trim, is to push the envelop, and put a smile on your face. It is more of a pure performance compromise in great weather compared to something like the GT500, but as a four door performance wagon I'm not sure that's the right target either. If you have the space and budget to have a bunch of cars, the GT PE probably doesn't make sense if the goal is to have specialist workhorses, but that's not how the majority of consumers prioritize their disposable income. Obviously, I'm biased here, but I also enjoy having space for 4 adults comfortably, space in the back for my kit, and being able to walk anything that doesn't have a Tesla badge from the light in any weather :).
Keep up the great work. There are very few channels where I will click on every video with the confidence that no matter what, I will learn something, and be entertained. Kudos.
It really is the AMC Eagle re-imagined.
7:45 Its sunburst orange! JC vibes there 😂😂😂
You guys need to test the colorado ZR2 id like to see what your thoughts are on it
My bet is the thunk is the regen releasing and the drivetrain engaging.
It's orange.
As a Mustang owner, I don’t love that it’s called a Mustang, but I really think the Mach E is a good vehicle.
Agreed. I think it would have gotten far better reception if they just called it Mach E and left the Mustang off. I don't think it deserves the hate it gets but it's definitely not a mustang.
I bet it would have been an acceptable Mustang if it weren't an SUV.
Like if you cover the lower half of the car at the beginning of the video, it actually has a really good potential to be a good looking coupe/coupesedan, And if it were electric, so let it be an eMustang.
@@Mattferreri_ Yeah, haven't seen much of the Mach E hitting the curb or crowds yet.
I thought this was the extra channel. What was that high budget outro?
Love the video. Awesome work as usual. BTW, i would recommend normal GT instead of GT Performance. I've driven both, and trust me, you'll enjoy normal GT a lot more. Don't know why, but it just handles and drives better!
I rented a Mach-E GT on Turo. Was not very impressed overall. I agree that the GT version doesn’t feel like it’s worth the extra money. I actually like the 2022 Model Y better although both have a firmer/sportier ride. I think I’d probably get the Ioniq 5 over both.
The only thing I like about this is the panoramic sunroof. But I’d be worried about getting tired of it.
Wait I thought the fully loaded mach e gt perf pack with glass roof was over 70k now? 🤔
I was able to upgrade to this car from my long range Mach E and actually come out ahead thanks to the tax credits (and insane used car market)! Been a ton of fun and it turns heads everywhere.
That five second limit is a bummer for only really fast highway speeds, but I hope Ford removes it via OTA once they get less scared of the battery hit/health.
It turns heads, but not for the reasons you think HOME BOY.
Unacceptable for a "performance" model
@@yawnaldno, it is for the reasons he thinks. ‘Turns heads’ is an indisputable term.
@@yawnald dumbass comment from someone that probably owns a shit box Tesla.
The base Mach-E ride is super bumpy (to the point where my wife gets car sick). Does the magnaride in the GT Performance improve this (doesn’t seem like it from this review)?
That background at 12:45 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆I love you guys
12:50 That is actually the De Sade package on the Mach-E.
9:46 James with the unappreciated self burn
Unpopular opinion but this is one of the most beautiful mustangs ever
Totally off topic but uhhh, I really need to see your review on the Nissan Z.
What is that blinking red light behind steering wheel wheel when James is driving?
IR face scanner. Shows up as red on camera but invisible to the human eye.
I want the Thomas Mach E also. With AWD.
Fords new grumpy setting was turned on, Thomas was feeling the effects.
Lovely BTS action 12:40
Thomas, can you reveal what watch you are wearing? Is that an Omega. Can't really tell.
Nice
@Thomas nice sea master, first time noticing it. New?
Oh, I love fishin' in Quebec
Please, please, please do a Mach-e GT vs Jaguar I-pace 2022
I can't find a single video comparing the two.
Ever gonna do the xc40 recharge? What do you have against volvo?!?
Did Canada skip summer this year? trees are bare and you guys are bundled
It is chilly in the world at time 😂😂😂
Speaking about charging points, I have a 2022 Mach E Premium with the standard battery and not sure if it is RWD or AWD since I didn’t ask nor did I care about that part since I don’t off-road or go to the mountains. Anyways, to get to the point, my biggest issue is people vandalizing charging points such as cutting the cable which I saw happen at a Northern Kaiser Permanente Hospital at three charging points.
Good. There's only about 1% of EVs on the road anyway.
So if you have to place an order for an EV today, which will it be?
Now that the 2023 prices are out consider that the standard GT is $3600 more than a premium and a GTPE is $8600 more if your gonna buy a MME the GTPE is worth it for the better suspension
Hello from Germany :)
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To be fair, tesla also game out with a standard model, then a pro, then a sport, then raven, then plaid over a decade. This could happen with generations of the mach-e too.
When Thomas was speccing the "Thomas Mach-E", I was soooo waiting for someone to say "Mach-E Model T"...
Normal Mach e feels heavy when cross shopping the id4 for me at least when I drove them back to back the same day.
Do those two cars also weigh similar?
@@Daniel-dj7fh very close in weight. Both average 4,700lbs however can range depending on single motor, dual motor, extended range battery. Right on an id4 goes from 4,500 to 4,950lbs. Mach e goes from 4,400 to 4,900lbs.
@@CruiseControl1 surprised it doesn't get up to "blue whale" status.
Why didn't you guys cover the Integra release?
Laughed out loud at the title
“Like a little alot”😂😂😂😂
On being able to manage the car's mass in slippery conditions, can you name an EV that doesn't have this issue? And BlueCruise, I believe, is only fully functional on mapped highways. And there, it tends to work pretty well.