The main point that I've extracted from watching this is that James is basically already living his dream! Congratulations on all of your well deserved successes, lads.
@@GreenWin88The 50k dream makes it more fun imo. Part of the fun of doing things is the challenge, if you just have infinite money and can buy every super car under the sun it's not really that fun anymore imo. The joy of collecting is that you can only get certain things so you need to do your research and pick out the items that will be the most enjoyable. Of course, that's just me.
Every time I go back to thinking James is "just" a car nerd, he pulls out this weird (weird is good in this context) mix of film/series/retro-culture/ultra-nerd/meta/science comments and I am impressed by how far his knowledge and details of them goes. Please continue to be this approachable. This charisma paired with modern/retro culture is exactly what we need and drags us back to this channel. I would go miles to just have a beer at a pub with him.
My wife & I love your shows. We love the insights and just fun shenanigans you guys get into. We really enjoyed this show and it caused us to really think about this. Here’s what I picked: daily driver, 2018 BMW X5 - $25K, sports car - pick up a ragged out Miata for $5K and dump another $5K in performance upgrades to make a track car that is a lot of fun to drive. Which leaves $15K for my classic, which would be a BMW 2002. That was a lot of fun. Thanks guys. Cheers!
Jepp. When Thomas was talking about the most reliable Land Rover, I was thinking that's a bit like talking about the most chaste pornstar. It just makes no sense...
My mum had a discovery 3 and a discovery 4 when I was a kid. Both went wrong at the exact time the warranty ran out. Both kept going into limp mode and the air suspension kept going down and getting stuck down.
Just sold my 2012 Equus because of my job needs and I really think that I will miss it. Love the comfort and styling. Incredibly smooth engine too. Good choice.
Daily: 2020+ Volvo V60 T5, $28K cause wagons are the best. Sport: Acura RSX, $8K Classic: 1988+ Honda Acty Truck, $10K Remaining $4K for a turbo kit on the RSX.
I'd watch that stuff all day. All from the same country, three different countries, different decades, engine type (only 4s, only straight 6s, etc.)...
James, you basically nailed it. I have an ‘18 Golf GTI, a Jeep Wrangler TJ, and hope to get a Miata next… this can be done in the $50k budget Wrangler just turned 25 this year, so technically a classic, but have owned it since 2001. The Boxter is tempting though, I browse them as much as Miata’s Really great episode guys!
I had a 1973 240Z that had a tired motor, so I installed a fresh short block for a 260Z with a Cannon intake and triple 40DCOE Webers. Most intoxicating intake sound this side of a Ferrari Daytona. It was light and quick and I got a whopping 15mpg! Great memories!
My list Daily: 2009 Toyota Camry - $9500 Sports: 2008 BMW 135i Sport - $14500 Classic : 1982 Porsche 944 - $23000 (this one has been perfectly restored and is basically brand new across every area) $3k left over to keep the BMW alive ;)
14:00 That is a Volkswagen Type-3 wagon (AKA: 'squareback') pictured next to Carl Sagan. Pretty rare cars. Build in the early 1970's and share the same basic air-cooled engine and transaxle from the Beatle, but with different cooling design.
Daily: 2011 Toyota Avalon for $11k - comfortable, reliable, practical, it’s a Toyota Sports: C5 Z06 for $24k - fast, fun, handles great, great sound, manual transmission Classic: 1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon for $13k - classic American boat with a 5.7 V8 and a big butt
C5 Z06 impressed me a lot when I drove one. I'd be able to forgive the shitty interior for how nice the engine and gearbox feel, Plus the pop up headlights, and you can take one to a trackday and have a fun time
So... I live in the north east, and it's "summer car, winter car, motorcycle" for my garage. Currently the collection is (summer) 98 BMW 540i - paid $5k, (winter) 99 Chevy Suburban - paid $500, put ~5k into getting it in shape, (Motorcycle aka. Sport + classic + convertible) 71 Honda CB100, 72 Honda CB360, 74 Honda XL250, and 85 Yamaha 750 - Paid
@@desertsavagery Im volvo enthusiast, that volvo will drink like a v8, v70's dont have good turning radius so its quite hard to drive in small cities. The parts are expensive as well, even in europe..
Golf is a smart daily choice. One of our daily cars is a 2019 Alltrack SEL, fully optioned. We bought it in 19 with 6,000 miles on it VW CPO so full coverage warranty for 7 years/84,000 miles for $27,000. We currently have 50k miles on it, clean car, no accidents ect.... Today it is worth 23k-25k.
I had a 2019 Alltrack SEL as well. One of my most favorite cars. Swapped a Golf R turbo in within the first 10,000 miles and kept it until around 135,000 miles. No issues, super fun, great in the snow with snow tires, loved it. Only reason I got rid of it when I did was because a vehicle I placed a preorder on came 2 years sooner than I anticipated.
Sagen’s wagon is a VW Squareback. In 1976 I got one for 6 clarinet lessons. We started our marriage in 1977 with my wife’s 914. Great car. No rust in Seattle. Loved that car - now I have a Boxster S.
Daily: Mk6 Gold TDI Manual ~12k Sports: C5 Corvette Coupe Manual ~16k (LS with mods can be awesome track car) Classic: '65-'69 Mustang Coupe V8 ~22k (manual if available but autos all day in price range)
Daily - 2016 Tesla Model X 75D - $20,995 Sports Car - 2002 Toyota MR2 Spyder (Manual) - $9,000 Classic - 1969 Chevrolet C/10 Stepside - $14,800 The last $5,205 I would use to upgrade to my preferred grill style on the C10, vinyl wrap and any other minor clean ups
Had a 2002 MR2 Spyder manual - one of my top three all time favorite cars. I tried to pick three cars I haven't owned, or that would have been an easy pick for a sports car.
Daily: 2017 Audi A5 (3.0T) ~ $15,000 ~ 58k miles Sports: 2007 BMW E92 M3 Manual ~ $22,000 ~ 57k miles Classic: 1994 Toyota MR2 ~ $12,000 ~ 104k miles 1k left over for maintence
I always love stuff like this. 1. I’d go for a manual 07/08 Acura TL Type S in kinetic blue pearl. 2. I’d need something practical so I’d look for a Pilot, Passport, 4Runner or even a Grand Cherokee. 3. My classic would be a Volvo 850 R. Something that’s fun and quirky.
@extrathrottlehouse Suggestion, do a realistic/reachable dream garage with topics: - Sport (because you can daily a sport) - Hobby (whatever floats your boat) - Tool (for your daily needs and can't do with sport) My picks would be: - Sport = Jaguar F-type V6S - Hobby = Lotus Exige Sport 410 - Tool = Lexus TX
Love the mention of a Prelude! I had a gen 5 several years ago. Great car. I am curious, though…there is a E35 M5 out there for $15k right now? I need to start looking.
I just bought a 5th gen Type SH last year. Total beater. $2,700. I drive it to work sometimes. But man, you're talking a _seriously_ nice one for that kind of money.
James, your picks are so funny to me because I not only would pick the exact same things, I pretty much did. I have a 2020 GTI and unfortunately just had to sell my NB Miata when I brought home my baby (congrats on yours too!) my brother and I both bought a CJ8 Scrambler (same thing but with a truck bed, old gladiator basically) to learn stick on when I was in high school. We never had any problems with the old AMC V8 but it was insanely scary to drive above 40 because it steered so poorly. I never knew we were such similar people! Love the lists guys
I promise I’m not obsessed with Porsches. 986 Boxster S - 15k Cayenne S/Turbo - 25k 944 - 10k Owned a 986 S and I don’t think there’s anything better for the money. I love my Macan as a one car solution but if I had the space for multiple the Cayenne makes a great daily.
@Viabhav6969 There’s something to be said about having similar tools or familiarity with a brand though; at least if you intend to perform your own maintenance.
I drove a 986 S and it made it to my list; it's that good. The Cayenne is the only objectionable choice here but I've never been in one. 944 is an interesting case because it's kind of like a Miata but harder to maintain...practical though. Interesting you can make this happen for 50k!
Seriously good! You guys are often funny and entertaining but this one was beyond great. Please do more like this that those of us on a budget can relate to... to spur our car driving fantasies.
For me I think I'd go with actually a similar approach: Daily - VW Golf GTI Mk6 (~10k €) Sports - Porsche Boxster 2.7L 987 (~20k €) Classic - BMW E30 325i (~20k €) Or I'd get a pristine Audi RS4 B7 and have a daily, a "sports" and a (modern) classic, probably some change left to keep that V8 running for a couple of years too (and yeah i know it's cheating to include it in the classic category as a modern classic, but i was in kindergarten when it came out so it's classic enough)
James and I had very similar thoughts, I went straight to a Miata/MX-5 and Golf too Doing it in the UK on Autotrader: Daily: Golf GTI Mk7.5 - £18,000 Sports: Mazda MX-5 ND - £14,500 Classic: BMW M5 E39 - £16,500
I just came across this this channel today. I have no background of who you guys are. Your qualifications or background. I have to say, after watching a corvette review, one of the most enjoyable reviews that I have ever seen. Immediately subscribe and I think the cemetery between you two is amazing. I am happy to say I'm looking forward to watching more! Thank you.
Major props on the 240Z. Owned one of those many moons ago and it was fun with a great gearbox. And 1972 is the year; by 1973 the emissions regs were creating real issues (mine was a 1973). And getting one with no rust is a major coup.
If I was in a non snow environment: Daily $10k: 2015 Honda fit manual Sports $35k: 981 Boxster S PDK Classic meaning 25 or more years old $5k: 1999 Mazda Miata manual.
Doug has become extremely out of touch with reality. He calls the $70k Kia EV9 awd affordable. Last I checked the average new car costs $49k, even that is a ton of money if not making $100k+ (regardless of if the dealership/bank will approve you for more).
@@jakes5530yea I feel like he's letting out his ego quite a bit. He tends to trash on cars that aren't German brands like Audi, BMW, Mercedes, and Porsche. It's honestly annoying to me.
Daily: 2017 or newer E-Golf - $15k Classic: 1980s BMW 325i sedan - $15k Sports: early 2000 BMW z3 or Z4 - $17k I will keep $3 to rent a car for family roadtrips or a truck if I need to haul something, should be enough budget for 6 years car rental :D
Love these sort of topics! You get to see alot of what people are into! I live in the uk so over here prices are abit different but todays money $50k is around £37.5k here so ive kept to that number, but this is my choice: Sports: BMW E46 M3 SMG Coupe. bought mine for around 19k Classic: Rover Mini Cooper. Get a decent one for around £6-7k Daily: Porsche Cayenne 1Gen. Can get a well looked after example for £4k My total is around £30k leaving some spare for modifications 😉😉👌
Great video 👏🏼 For £50k Sterling (stuff more expensive over here so that negates the exchange rate) Daily: BMW 540i xDrive 2018 - £20k Sports: Lotus Exige 1.8 2004 - £20k Classic: Rolls Royce Silver Shadow 1972 - £10k
Good list, but man I wish I could find an exige for that cheap over here. There must be more of them on your side of the pond. I looked at them like 5 years ago and couldn't find a decent one in the whole country for less than like $60k. I'm sure it's even worse now.
Daily - 2014 Hyundai Equus with 5.0 V8 - 9k Sport - 2002 Base Corvette with Manual - 12k Classic - 1980 Triumph TR8 in blue-ish green - 24k So basically all V8s, with extra 5k to spare. Probably good for cams for the Corvette and TR8.
Yeah, VW Typ 3 1500 ❕👍🏼 Was a little bit roomier as the beetle. Later came the Passat and Golf with front engine and fwd... but in the 60's VW had only rear engine air-cooled car's. Love from Berlin 🇩🇪 Ramsi 🙋🏻♂️
This is what I already have: Daily - '01 Dodge Ram - 2,500 Sports - E39 540i M-Sport - 8k Classic - 1968 Dodge Dart - 22k +/- a few $ for "upgrades" Sagan's "daily" was a VW Type 3 wagon. That 240 came with 2 SU carbs, that '72 has the weber conversion, huge performance upgrade.
@@ivanivan4155i just bought an e39 540i/6. it's an excellent car. doesn't ride as nice and doesn't feel as solidly put together as my LS430 but the sportiness and styling make up for it
I had an e39 540i M sport 6 speed it is a fantastic car. More comfortable than an e46 by far and on the highway they feel like they could just keep accelerating forever. Would 100% snatch one of them in good shape. I currently have an f30 335i 6 speed which has a similar wheel base to the e39
@@ivanivan4155 I love it, the suspension and tires make it great in the turns (but it does sacrifice some comfort on rough roads). I should have added that it's a V8, not the 6, so it does have a decent amount of oomph. I did some small road trips in it and once you get going, the gas mileage is not bad.
@NewbombTurk. Other than my "classic" section (I have gone the route of 70's Honda motorcycles and a mid 80's Yamaha for my >30 y/o crew) we share a classic truck and the E39 - I love the E39. GMT 400 Chevy Burb for the winter. I thought there was someone commenting about E39's being a little rough on the road - I would tell that person to get the suspension refreshed. Anyway - respect to your collection (also being
Daily: Civic / Corolla $14000 (A four door that don't easily break down) Sports: BMW 135i Manual $18000 (stock 300 hp, huge aftermarket support even if you don't mod your car, RWD, inline 6, decent tech: keyless entry, heated seat, steering, sun roof etc., handles fantastic because it's so close to the legendary 1M; this beats almost everything in this budget.) which is what I drive right now. And the only major issue during my 2 year ownership is a dead starter. And I have a stage 1 turbo and tune pushes 350+ horsepower. Still realiable Classic: NC or ND (if possible) Miata (It's a modern classic now) $18000
This is my actual stable. less than 20k CAD. All purchased within the last 24 months. Classic 1975 Ford f100, 390 V8, C6 auto $2k Sports 1989 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 5 speed Convertible $5.5k Daily 2012 VW Golf Sportwagen 2.0 TDI 6 speed $10k Helps to have a mechanical aptitude and willing to get hands dirty.
This was great. I love when you guys do videos like this. I'd love to see you do this with the 100k budget you were talking about. I think it would be interesting to see how your choices change.
This was tough trying to narrow it down, in fact I couldn't, so will have options Daily-2020's Subaru WRX/Hyundai Kona N $25,000 Classic-Mid 70's Dodge Challenger/80's RamCharger in the $10-15k range Sport-2001 Ford Mustang GT Bullitt $10,000 (my current car) But honestly, the Mustang is almost classic in age and to me would satisfy both of those categories so I would have a to change the parameters to Truck, Daily/Winter, Sport/Classic and my current setup is Truck-2018 Ram 2500 $38,000 Daily/Winter-2007 Chrysler Aspen $6,000 Sport/Classic-2001 Ford Mustang GT Bullitt $10,000 putting me slightly over budget. And when the truck is paid off I can upgrade the Daily/Winter to that Subaru or Hyundai
Daily: 2004 BMW X5 - 4,000 Sport: 00’ NB Miata (with hardtop/convertible) - 5,000 Classic: ‘89 Porsche 944 Turbo - 35,000 Remaining 6k would be used to maintain the Bimmer, and and some suspension upgrades to the Miata.
That would be a great series. Each episode covering the ownership experience of cars they chose. I'd be particularly interested in the reality of the Land Rover LR3/Discovery and Porsche Boxter.
Fair point. Especially when it comes to reliability. Though there are a couple of choices here that I don't think would take very long to regret.@@Wheelman81
I want this exact idea but I want silly challenges and critical banter going back and forth. Getting ice cream might be the first challenge/activity. Watching James try to eat ice cream in his suspension-less jeep would be worth two giggles and a shit.
DAILY: 2014 Corolla S $13000 Sports Car: Used Caterham Super 7 $25000 Classic: N120 4Runner SR5 AWD $12000 or sigh a VR6 Corrado (would need an oil budget)
Absolutely loved James' 'classic' selection story. The diversity of available vehicles from the search, is _hilarious!_ So many weird, terrible, forgotten gems. 😄 14:35 - A tiny highlight for me was the Fiat 500's front overhang..! ( _Theoretically,_ it has an even better entry angle than James' final choice for this category.) Fascinating, about Sagan - funny about not choosing the same as he. P.S. The wagon is a Volksy Type 4. Always seemed like one of the crappiest wagons ever: unloaded, it already has rear weight bias; high loading height; no rear side doors.
I love this concept. These are my choices: Daily: 2018 Nissan Maxima SR (18k miles) - 19.5k Sports: 1997 BMW 328is (5spd, 77k miles) - 9.9k Classic: 1984 Chevrolet Suburban 2500 (RWD, 7.4L V8) - 18.7k
Daily: R129 SL500(M119, the car I actually daily) , purchased it at $7.6k and 85K miles in 2021 Sports: SW20 MR2 (built for time attack) purchased at $7K with peeling clear, and door dings Classic: Jaguar XJ12-C (with a broadspeed replica kit, and haltech EFI) $2-4K with no floorboards. Money spent: $18K on cars Sub-Remaining: $32K Devoting: $10K each to repairs and modifications(time attack r129 and hillclimb SW20?)
I feel like a challenge for you two would be what single car would you get for 50. Maybe i am alone with this but I'm a quiver killer type of enthusiast. Also cant afford more than 1 cars worth of maintenance and insurance hah
I had a 2016 VW Golf. You described it perfectly: easy to live with and practical. It served me perfectly in my city days. and was fun (enough) to drive.
Think you can do better? Pick your 3 cars at www.autotempest.com/s/35FVLF and let us know the results in the comments!
Land Rover LR3 and Mazda MX5 and Porsche 914
2014 Porsche Panamera 2: 16,995
1992 Nissan 300ZX turbo: 22,995
1967 Mercury Cougar: 9,750
I'd save a little on the Sportscar to put towards the daily.
Sportscar: ND1 Miata - 17k
Daily: Lexus GS350 - 24k
Classic: BMW 635 csi - 9k
2018 Civic sport hatch 16k
2003 corvette Z06 23k
NA miata 11k
Daily 2018 bmw 520d touring xdrive £18k
Sport 2012 Porsche cayman s 987 £22k
Classic 1984 Austin mini shorty £10k
The main point that I've extracted from watching this is that James is basically already living his dream! Congratulations on all of your well deserved successes, lads.
He is living his 50k dream, not the DREAM dream...
@@GreenWin88 lol for me, that IS the dream.
A dream dream can be 50k. @@GreenWin88
But a dream non the less@@GreenWin88
@@GreenWin88The 50k dream makes it more fun imo. Part of the fun of doing things is the challenge, if you just have infinite money and can buy every super car under the sun it's not really that fun anymore imo. The joy of collecting is that you can only get certain things so you need to do your research and pick out the items that will be the most enjoyable. Of course, that's just me.
Daily: Audi B8 S4 - $12500
Sports: BMW Z4 M - $17000
Classic: Porsche 944 turbo - $20000
lol B8 for less than 14k
Crazy that z4m is so cheap. In EU they are getting close to to 50k euro 😮
gonna need another 20k in repairs
@@zzzzzzzoooorrrroroooo M is not cheap to run, that is true!
Daily: 2017 Lexus is300 f sport $24000
Sports(argumental): 2015 Sierra 1500 $21000
Classic(also argumental): Acura integra $5000
Daily: LS430 - 10k
Sports: ND Miata - 18k
Classic: El Camino - 22k
good choices but spending 10k usd on a LS430 is crazy
Why not an LS460?
@@noshariI’d definitely go LS460 if I was spending $10k
El Camino is my choice too, a man with class
I don't get a comina, but the other two are perfect!
Every time I go back to thinking James is "just" a car nerd, he pulls out this weird (weird is good in this context) mix of film/series/retro-culture/ultra-nerd/meta/science comments and I am impressed by how far his knowledge and details of them goes. Please continue to be this approachable. This charisma paired with modern/retro culture is exactly what we need and drags us back to this channel. I would go miles to just have a beer at a pub with him.
More of this please. Used enthusiast cars we can afford
We can’t afford them, with content being made about them tho?
My wife & I love your shows. We love the insights and just fun shenanigans you guys get into. We really enjoyed this show and it caused us to really think about this. Here’s what I picked: daily driver, 2018 BMW X5 - $25K, sports car - pick up a ragged out Miata for $5K and dump another $5K in performance upgrades to make a track car that is a lot of fun to drive. Which leaves $15K for my classic, which would be a BMW 2002. That was a lot of fun. Thanks guys. Cheers!
Sagan's wagon is a Type 3 VW squareback.
I screamed that at the screen
He obviously loved his air cooled flat 4s.
Came here to say this and you sir already did. Hats off.
Was losing respect thinking HOW CAN YOU THINK THAT’S VOLVO?!? Then I realized not everyone is or should be a VW nerd like me.
This is fun.
Daily: 2022 Ford Maverick $25k
Sports: 2000s Audi TT $10k
Classic: 1950s Jeep CJ $15k
Modern Ford's tend to have a lot of electrical issues and they're the highest recalled cars, currently.
@@hhaste I've got a maverick right now and love it! On track to reach 28,000 miles tomorrow. Seems ready for many more.
Currently have a rav4 2020, Audi TT 2001, and focus st 2013. I’m pretty happy with our choices! Tt is still stock which is a shame
Having owned 2 discovery 3s and a discovery 4 and fitted 5 replacement engines between them, the idea of a reliable landrover is way too funny to me.
You had bad luck. Had 06 and 07 LR3 both over 210k and never touched the engines. Just a suspension pump on both around 150k.
@@garylind6464what if the opposite was true? You've had good luck? 🤣🤣
Jepp. When Thomas was talking about the most reliable Land Rover, I was thinking that's a bit like talking about the most chaste pornstar. It just makes no sense...
My mum had a discovery 3 and a discovery 4 when I was a kid. Both went wrong at the exact time the warranty ran out. Both kept going into limp mode and the air suspension kept going down and getting stuck down.
That zf transmission the lr3 uses isn't know to be reliable when it's wrapped in a ram 1500 body
Daily: Golf GTi (MK7.5)
Sports: 2008 Corvette
Classic: Lotus 7
Daily - 2015 Hyundai Equus, $10K
Sports - 2006 Corvette, $14K
Classic - 1990 Nissan 300ZX Turbo - $26K
This is almost perfect
u can find those 300zx for alot cheaper. My buddy bought one for 10
$14k C6 is beater tier. Lower mileage manuals are $22-25k.
Just sold my 2012 Equus because of my job needs and I really think that I will miss it. Love the comfort and styling. Incredibly smooth engine too. Good choice.
Equus is a great suggestion. I would personally lean toward a 20-25k 08+ LS3 C6 and a cheaper Z32 but these are awesome suggestions.
Daily: 2020+ Volvo V60 T5, $28K cause wagons are the best.
Sport: Acura RSX, $8K
Classic: 1988+ Honda Acty Truck, $10K
Remaining $4K for a turbo kit on the RSX.
Nice choice
Those volvos are unreliable though and with hogh maintenance costs
YES!! All the dream car garage videos!! Please do dream cars from each country next.
Maybe market is better? There's a LOT of countries and car companies
@@kakutasubeatsSecond this!
YESSSSSS THIS IS A GOOD IDEA
Great idea
I'd watch that stuff all day. All from the same country, three different countries, different decades, engine type (only 4s, only straight 6s, etc.)...
James, you basically nailed it. I have an ‘18 Golf GTI, a Jeep Wrangler TJ, and hope to get a Miata next… this can be done in the $50k budget
Wrangler just turned 25 this year, so technically a classic, but have owned it since 2001.
The Boxter is tempting though, I browse them as much as Miata’s
Really great episode guys!
I had a 1973 240Z that had a tired motor, so I installed a fresh short block for a 260Z with a Cannon intake and triple 40DCOE Webers. Most intoxicating intake sound this side of a Ferrari Daytona. It was light and quick and I got a whopping 15mpg! Great memories!
My list
Daily: 2009 Toyota Camry - $9500
Sports: 2008 BMW 135i Sport - $14500
Classic : 1982 Porsche 944 - $23000 (this one has been perfectly restored and is basically brand new across every area)
$3k left over to keep the BMW alive ;)
Classic: Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Sports: Corvette C5 Z06
Daily: Honda Ridgeline + Yamaha R3
I'm 💯 on board with the sports and daily. 1st Gen Ridgeline is a surprisingly fun daily that has allot of utility. My dad used to have one.
Hard lineup- thunderbirds aren’t my favorite but you pulled it back 😂
Why not like a used SV650 or something? The R3 is really boring as a motorcycle.
C5 Z06 ftw
Ridgeline is a solid choice. May have to do a first gen due to the pricing.
Mine would be:
Daily - '12 Volvo XC70 T6 premier plus (12,500)
Sports - '02 BMW 330ci (6,700)
Classic - '66 Ford Mustang (29,000)
14:00 That is a Volkswagen Type-3 wagon (AKA: 'squareback') pictured next to Carl Sagan. Pretty rare cars. Build in the early 1970's and share the same basic air-cooled engine and transaxle from the Beatle, but with different cooling design.
It was called VW 1600 Variant in it's country of birth
Super cools cars! I own two of them, and it would definitely be my pick for a classic. I like them even more now that I know Sagan owned one
You guys are so much the best car guys. Entertaining, fun, illuminating and enthusiastic. Thank you
James guessing the 986 was an absolute delight to watch. Best part of the episode!
Daily: 2017 BMW 530i $12.5k (77k miles)
Sports: 1999 996 911 Carrera 4 Cabriolet $17k (120k miles, *low mileage*)
1962 Cadillac DeVille $20k
Total $49.5k
Daily: 2011 Toyota Avalon for $11k - comfortable, reliable, practical, it’s a Toyota
Sports: C5 Z06 for $24k - fast, fun, handles great, great sound, manual transmission
Classic: 1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon for $13k - classic American boat with a 5.7 V8 and a big butt
Outstanding selection, especially that Buick
I WANT A C5Z?!?!?@!?@?!@?!@KLJASDQWELKJQWE
Id swap out that 2011 Avalon to a 100 series Land Cruiser and this would be an elite 3.
That buick better have the towing package
C5 Z06 impressed me a lot when I drove one. I'd be able to forgive the shitty interior for how nice the engine and gearbox feel, Plus the pop up headlights, and you can take one to a trackday and have a fun time
So... I live in the north east, and it's "summer car, winter car, motorcycle" for my garage. Currently the collection is (summer) 98 BMW 540i - paid $5k, (winter) 99 Chevy Suburban - paid $500, put ~5k into getting it in shape, (Motorcycle aka. Sport + classic + convertible) 71 Honda CB100, 72 Honda CB360, 74 Honda XL250, and 85 Yamaha 750 - Paid
Being in the North East as well I get the summer/winter aspect of this comment!
Daily: 2010 Panamera S - $18k
Sports: 2019 Miata Club - $23k
Classic: 1983 Spider Veloce - $8k
Solid choice.
Respect.
Awesome list, but go s2 on the Alfa
Bravo!
A first gen panamera is a bad idea for a daily 😅
Absolutely loved this video, format and everything was perfect. Would love to see more of these in the future.
James' Miata is probably quicker than the Boxster of that age 😅
It is _definitely_ quicker than a 2.7 986. An ND2 is competition for a 3.2 986 S. It doesn't sound nearly as good as either one, of course.
Daily: 2009 Prius $8,000
Sports: 2010 C6 Corvette GS $30,000
Classic: 1999 Porsche boxter $12,000
Daily - Volvo V70R 6speed
Sports - ND Miata
Classic - E30 3 series
volvo would have a worse mpg than a miata lol
@@Iusniqa your daily needs to be comfortable not just economical, Miatas aren't terrible, but the Volvo is miles ahead in comfort.
@@desertsavagery Im volvo enthusiast, that volvo will drink like a v8, v70's dont have good turning radius so its quite hard to drive in small cities. The parts are expensive as well, even in europe..
Daily: 2009 Toyota RAV4 Sport V6 - $13,500
Sport: 2003 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 - $24,000
"Classic": 1990 Buick Reatta convertible - $11,500
Golf is a smart daily choice. One of our daily cars is a 2019 Alltrack SEL, fully optioned. We bought it in 19 with 6,000 miles on it VW CPO so full coverage warranty for 7 years/84,000 miles for $27,000. We currently have 50k miles on it, clean car, no accidents ect.... Today it is worth 23k-25k.
I had a 2019 Alltrack SEL as well. One of my most favorite cars. Swapped a Golf R turbo in within the first 10,000 miles and kept it until around 135,000 miles. No issues, super fun, great in the snow with snow tires, loved it. Only reason I got rid of it when I did was because a vehicle I placed a preorder on came 2 years sooner than I anticipated.
Daily: 2019 Buick Regal AWD Sportback: $17,990
Sport: 2001 Corvette ZO6: $20,963
Classic: 1967Austin-Healey Sprite: $8,900
Your Buick pick surprised me. l like it!
Sagen’s wagon is a VW Squareback. In 1976 I got one for 6 clarinet lessons. We started our marriage in 1977 with my wife’s 914. Great car. No rust in Seattle. Loved that car - now I have a Boxster S.
Daily: Mk6 Gold TDI Manual ~12k
Sports: C5 Corvette Coupe Manual ~16k (LS with mods can be awesome track car)
Classic: '65-'69 Mustang Coupe V8 ~22k (manual if available but autos all day in price range)
Daily - 2016 Tesla Model X 75D - $20,995
Sports Car - 2002 Toyota MR2 Spyder (Manual) - $9,000
Classic - 1969 Chevrolet C/10 Stepside - $14,800
The last $5,205 I would use to upgrade to my preferred grill style on the C10, vinyl wrap and any other minor clean ups
Had a 2002 MR2 Spyder manual - one of my top three all time favorite cars. I tried to pick three cars I haven't owned, or that would have been an easy pick for a sports car.
Daily: 2017 Audi A5 (3.0T) ~ $15,000 ~ 58k miles
Sports: 2007 BMW E92 M3 Manual ~ $22,000 ~ 57k miles
Classic: 1994 Toyota MR2 ~ $12,000 ~ 104k miles
1k left over for maintence
I always love stuff like this.
1. I’d go for a manual 07/08 Acura TL Type S in kinetic blue pearl.
2. I’d need something practical so I’d look for a Pilot, Passport, 4Runner or even a Grand Cherokee.
3. My classic would be a Volvo 850 R. Something that’s fun and quirky.
That's a great list.
TL type S ftw
@@HankM56 Previously owned an 08 TL Type S in that blue. Loved it. It was an auto but next time I’d get a manual.
but the 850R also has the added utility of being dailyable.
@@2JZDestroyer that’s very true. I was thinking the sedan but the wagon would be pretty sweet as well.
@extrathrottlehouse
Suggestion, do a realistic/reachable dream garage with topics:
- Sport (because you can daily a sport)
- Hobby (whatever floats your boat)
- Tool (for your daily needs and can't do with sport)
My picks would be:
- Sport = Jaguar F-type V6S
- Hobby = Lotus Exige Sport 410
- Tool = Lexus TX
Daily: Lexus IS F - 20k
Sports: Honda Prelude (4th gen, 2.2l VTEC) - 15k
Classic: BMW E34 M5 - 15k
Prelude mentioned ‼️
This is the best list I’ve seen
isf for 20k? youre lucky over there. here in europe they start at like 30-35k ish
Love the mention of a Prelude! I had a gen 5 several years ago. Great car. I am curious, though…there is a E35 M5 out there for $15k right now? I need to start looking.
I just bought a 5th gen Type SH last year. Total beater. $2,700. I drive it to work sometimes. But man, you're talking a _seriously_ nice one for that kind of money.
James, your picks are so funny to me because I not only would pick the exact same things, I pretty much did. I have a 2020 GTI and unfortunately just had to sell my NB Miata when I brought home my baby (congrats on yours too!) my brother and I both bought a CJ8 Scrambler (same thing but with a truck bed, old gladiator basically) to learn stick on when I was in high school. We never had any problems with the old AMC V8 but it was insanely scary to drive above 40 because it steered so poorly. I never knew we were such similar people! Love the lists guys
LOVED this challenge! It's actually realistic; having $50k and enough space to store 3 cars is not totally unreasonable. Also, that 240 was gorgeous 😍
Daily: 3rd gen 4Runner - $8k
Sports: Mazda Miata mazdaspeed- $15k
Classic: 1966 Chevy C10 restomod - $27k
I promise I’m not obsessed with Porsches.
986 Boxster S - 15k
Cayenne S/Turbo - 25k
944 - 10k
Owned a 986 S and I don’t think there’s anything better for the money. I love my Macan as a one car solution but if I had the space for multiple the Cayenne makes a great daily.
Do you really promise..?? Those seem like top tier Porsche enthusiast picks 😅
@Viabhav6969
There’s something to be said about having similar tools or familiarity with a brand though; at least if you intend to perform your own maintenance.
I drove a 986 S and it made it to my list; it's that good. The Cayenne is the only objectionable choice here but I've never been in one.
944 is an interesting case because it's kind of like a Miata but harder to maintain...practical though.
Interesting you can make this happen for 50k!
Completely agree. 986S is the best car I’ve ever driven.
Seriously good! You guys are often funny and entertaining but this one was beyond great. Please do more like this that those of us on a budget can relate to... to spur our car driving fantasies.
sagan section: moon of mars. His wagon was a vw type 3
Daily:1991 Volvo 240 Turbo 11k
Sports: 1987 Mazda RX7 Turbo 2 8.2k
Classic: 1970 Dodge Coronet RT 426 Hemi 29k
leaving 1800 for rotary rebuilds and gas :)
Daily: 2018 BMW 530i RWD - 19k
Sports: 2006 C6 Corvette Manual - 18k
Classic: 2001 BMW 330Ci Manual - 12k
For me I think I'd go with actually a similar approach:
Daily - VW Golf GTI Mk6 (~10k €)
Sports - Porsche Boxster 2.7L 987 (~20k €)
Classic - BMW E30 325i (~20k €)
Or I'd get a pristine Audi RS4 B7 and have a daily, a "sports" and a (modern) classic, probably some change left to keep that V8 running for a couple of years too (and yeah i know it's cheating to include it in the classic category as a modern classic, but i was in kindergarten when it came out so it's classic enough)
James and a Miata! Someone EVERYONE saw coming!
smiles per gallon
So true, that one was so in your face. I'm prob getting a nd this year. Don't care 1 or 2, not much different when driving.
Daily: BMW 740i 2022 - $28,500
Sports: Pontiac Firebird V8 1992 - $8,000
Classic: Cadillac Eldorado 1977 - $10,000
James and I had very similar thoughts, I went straight to a Miata/MX-5 and Golf too
Doing it in the UK on Autotrader:
Daily: Golf GTI Mk7.5 - £18,000
Sports: Mazda MX-5 ND - £14,500
Classic: BMW M5 E39 - £16,500
I just came across this this channel today. I have no background of who you guys are. Your qualifications or background. I have to say, after watching a corvette review, one of the most enjoyable reviews that I have ever seen. Immediately subscribe and I think the cemetery between you two is amazing. I am happy to say I'm looking forward to watching more! Thank you.
Chemistry
Major props on the 240Z. Owned one of those many moons ago and it was fun with a great gearbox. And 1972 is the year; by 1973 the emissions regs were creating real issues (mine was a 1973). And getting one with no rust is a major coup.
If I was in a non snow environment:
Daily $10k: 2015 Honda fit manual
Sports $35k: 981 Boxster S PDK
Classic meaning 25 or more years old $5k: 1999 Mazda Miata manual.
Gotta add about 100lbs of sound dampening but yes to the Fit.
@@TonyBasuro the 2015 didn’t really need more sound dampening
Classic: 1982 Mercedes 380 SEC for $5,500
Daily: 2010 Volvo S80 with the Yamaha V8 and AWD for $11,000
Sports Car: 2017 Mustang GT350 for $33,500
tasteful trio 👏
A 17’ gt350 for 33.5K…😂
Only if it’s been wrecked or has 150K miles on it! Wishful thinking though!
This is awesome. Much more relatable than Doug and Kennan’s completely unaffordable choices for the average car enthusiast.
Doug has become extremely out of touch with reality. He calls the $70k Kia EV9 awd affordable. Last I checked the average new car costs $49k, even that is a ton of money if not making $100k+ (regardless of if the dealership/bank will approve you for more).
@@jakes5530yea I feel like he's letting out his ego quite a bit. He tends to trash on cars that aren't German brands like Audi, BMW, Mercedes, and Porsche. It's honestly annoying to me.
Daily: 2017 or newer E-Golf - $15k
Classic: 1980s BMW 325i sedan - $15k
Sports: early 2000 BMW z3 or Z4 - $17k
I will keep $3 to rent a car for family roadtrips or a truck if I need to haul something, should be enough budget for 6 years car rental :D
Love that VW Squareback in the Sagan video.
Love these sort of topics! You get to see alot of what people are into! I live in the uk so over here prices are abit different but todays money $50k is around £37.5k here so ive kept to that number, but this is my choice:
Sports: BMW E46 M3 SMG Coupe. bought mine for around 19k
Classic: Rover Mini Cooper. Get a decent one for around £6-7k
Daily: Porsche Cayenne 1Gen. Can get a well looked after example for £4k
My total is around £30k leaving some spare for modifications 😉😉👌
Great video 👏🏼
For £50k Sterling (stuff more expensive over here so that negates the exchange rate)
Daily: BMW 540i xDrive 2018 - £20k
Sports: Lotus Exige 1.8 2004 - £20k
Classic: Rolls Royce Silver Shadow 1972 - £10k
Good list, but man I wish I could find an exige for that cheap over here. There must be more of them on your side of the pond. I looked at them like 5 years ago and couldn't find a decent one in the whole country for less than like $60k. I'm sure it's even worse now.
Daily - 2014 Hyundai Equus with 5.0 V8 - 9k
Sport - 2002 Base Corvette with Manual - 12k
Classic - 1980 Triumph TR8 in blue-ish green - 24k
So basically all V8s, with extra 5k to spare. Probably good for cams for the Corvette and TR8.
The sit down and talk videos are really enjoyable for us; you should keep doing more !
Seeing the Golf first off the board as the daily brought some joy to my heart. 2016 Golf is such an excellent car!!!
Carl Sagan’s wagon was a VW squareback. Similar to the beetle chassis/mechanicals I believe, but with a practical wagon body instead
Spot on!
Yeah, VW Typ 3 1500 ❕👍🏼
Was a little bit roomier as the beetle.
Later came the Passat and Golf with front engine and fwd... but in the 60's VW had only rear engine air-cooled car's.
Love from Berlin 🇩🇪
Ramsi 🙋🏻♂️
Daily: Mazda 6 - 12k
Sports: 91 Crx/1985 P-Type Supra - 12k
Classic: Fairlady 240z - 26k
All stick-shift of course
This is what I already have:
Daily - '01 Dodge Ram - 2,500
Sports - E39 540i M-Sport - 8k
Classic - 1968 Dodge Dart - 22k +/- a few $ for "upgrades"
Sagan's "daily" was a VW Type 3 wagon.
That 240 came with 2 SU carbs, that '72 has the weber conversion, huge performance upgrade.
How is the E39, is it comfortable, is it fast? I'm kinda thinking of switching my E46 to E39...
@@ivanivan4155i just bought an e39 540i/6. it's an excellent car. doesn't ride as nice and doesn't feel as solidly put together as my LS430 but the sportiness and styling make up for it
I had an e39 540i M sport 6 speed it is a fantastic car. More comfortable than an e46 by far and on the highway they feel like they could just keep accelerating forever. Would 100% snatch one of them in good shape. I currently have an f30 335i 6 speed which has a similar wheel base to the e39
@@ivanivan4155 I love it, the suspension and tires make it great in the turns (but it does sacrifice some comfort on rough roads). I should have added that it's a V8, not the 6, so it does have a decent amount of oomph. I did some small road trips in it and once you get going, the gas mileage is not bad.
@NewbombTurk. Other than my "classic" section (I have gone the route of 70's Honda motorcycles and a mid 80's Yamaha for my >30 y/o crew) we share a classic truck and the E39 - I love the E39. GMT 400 Chevy Burb for the winter. I thought there was someone commenting about E39's being a little rough on the road - I would tell that person to get the suspension refreshed. Anyway - respect to your collection (also being
Daily: Civic / Corolla $14000 (A four door that don't easily break down)
Sports: BMW 135i Manual $18000 (stock 300 hp, huge aftermarket support even if you don't mod your car, RWD, inline 6, decent tech: keyless entry, heated seat, steering, sun roof etc., handles fantastic because it's so close to the legendary 1M; this beats almost everything in this budget.) which is what I drive right now. And the only major issue during my 2 year ownership is a dead starter. And I have a stage 1 turbo and tune pushes 350+ horsepower. Still realiable
Classic: NC or ND (if possible) Miata (It's a modern classic now) $18000
One of the better lists I've seen. Those 128i/135i's are criminally underrated. A 128i is dead reliable and lots of fun.
Was also going to say this is a good list.
I love this segment. Real talk for real budgets.
Daily: 2008 Lexus IS250 9k
Sport: 2006 C6 corvette 25k
Classic: 1990 FC RX7 15k
Daily: 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis $7,000
Sports: 2007 Chevy Corvette $19,000
Classic: 1979 Chevy Blazer $24,000
Oh hell yeah brother
James’s new Golf R fits all three. Daily, sporty, and the golf name is classic. Plus warranty and CarPlay!
Daily: Lexus IS350
Sports: BMW Z3 2.8
Classic: 80 Series Landcruiser
Thumbs up for Datsun 240z, Bravo Thomas, Bravo! 👏
This is my actual stable. less than 20k CAD. All purchased within the last 24 months.
Classic 1975 Ford f100, 390 V8, C6 auto $2k
Sports 1989 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 5 speed Convertible $5.5k
Daily 2012 VW Golf Sportwagen 2.0 TDI 6 speed $10k
Helps to have a mechanical aptitude and willing to get hands dirty.
This was great. I love when you guys do videos like this.
I'd love to see you do this with the 100k budget you were talking about. I think it would be interesting to see how your choices change.
Daily: Toyota Camry - $20k
Sports: Mazda MX-5 Miata - $20k
Classic: Volkswagen Beetle - $10k
Daily: 2004 4Runner V8. Sports: ND3 Miata GT (manual of course). Classic: 1991 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL W126.
Heck yeah on the 91' SEL
This was tough trying to narrow it down, in fact I couldn't, so will have options
Daily-2020's Subaru WRX/Hyundai Kona N $25,000
Classic-Mid 70's Dodge Challenger/80's RamCharger in the $10-15k range
Sport-2001 Ford Mustang GT Bullitt $10,000 (my current car)
But honestly, the Mustang is almost classic in age and to me would satisfy both of those categories so I would have a to change the parameters to Truck, Daily/Winter, Sport/Classic and my current setup is Truck-2018 Ram 2500 $38,000
Daily/Winter-2007 Chrysler Aspen $6,000
Sport/Classic-2001 Ford Mustang GT Bullitt $10,000 putting me slightly over budget. And when the truck is paid off I can upgrade the Daily/Winter to that Subaru or Hyundai
The Extra Throttle House: Sofa of Intimacy is my favorite series involving sofas.
Daily: 2004 BMW X5 - 4,000
Sport: 00’ NB Miata (with hardtop/convertible) - 5,000
Classic: ‘89 Porsche 944 Turbo - 35,000
Remaining 6k would be used to maintain the Bimmer, and and some suspension upgrades to the Miata.
Just got a 2010 Porsche 987.2 Boxster for $20k. And already have a 33k mile 2005 CRV as daily for $7k. Left me $23k to restore a VW Bus in the future!
Daily: 2018 VW Passat GT
Sports: 2019 BMW 440i Coupe/Convertible
Classic: 1999 BMW Z3
If AutoTempest haven't gone and actually bought these 6 cars for the guys to use in a future epic video, then they don't know how the internet works.
That would be a great series. Each episode covering the ownership experience of cars they chose. I'd be particularly interested in the reality of the Land Rover LR3/Discovery and Porsche Boxter.
Fair point. Especially when it comes to reliability. Though there are a couple of choices here that I don't think would take very long to regret.@@Wheelman81
If you dont go ahead and buy me a car then you don't know how the youtube comment section works
I want this exact idea but I want silly challenges and critical banter going back and forth. Getting ice cream might be the first challenge/activity. Watching James try to eat ice cream in his suspension-less jeep would be worth two giggles and a shit.
Ah, opportunity missed! Don't worry though, we've got some ideas in the works here.
Daily: Volvo S80 V8
Sports Car: Toyota Mark ll Tourer-V
Classic: G-Body Buick Regal Big Block
Do more of these challenges!!! Especially when you have to pick actual sales listings
DAILY: 2014 Corolla S $13000
Sports Car: Used Caterham Super 7 $25000
Classic: N120 4Runner SR5 AWD $12000 or sigh a VR6 Corrado (would need an oil budget)
“Eskimo brothers? Well cut that” - I died 😂
I'm so, so happy they didn't
Absolutely loved James' 'classic' selection story.
The diversity of available vehicles from the search, is _hilarious!_ So many weird, terrible, forgotten gems. 😄
14:35 - A tiny highlight for me was the Fiat 500's front overhang..! ( _Theoretically,_ it has an even better entry angle than James' final choice for this category.)
Fascinating, about Sagan - funny about not choosing the same as he.
P.S. The wagon is a Volksy Type 4. Always seemed like one of the crappiest wagons ever: unloaded, it already has rear weight bias; high loading height; no rear side doors.
Daily- 1998 Toyota Rav4 w 5speed manual (black) - $3,300
Sports - Focus RS (blue)-$32,100
Classic - 1972 VW beetle (yellow) -$14,400
I love this concept. These are my choices:
Daily: 2018 Nissan Maxima SR (18k miles) - 19.5k
Sports: 1997 BMW 328is (5spd, 77k miles) - 9.9k
Classic: 1984 Chevrolet Suburban 2500 (RWD, 7.4L V8) - 18.7k
Can relate to the porshe/wagon combo. I got a toyota minivan/brz combo😅
Lol, quite the dramatic shift.
Daily- Corolla XRS 8k
Project/classic - GMC Sierra 10k
Sports- Lexus ISF 30K
I daily a 2006 XRS, eyeing ISF/GSF for roadtrip/weekend use
"I didn't expect James to get the Miata", said no one anywhere.
My choices from my search results:
Daily: 2021 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T - $22,500
Sports: 2006 Chevrolet Corvette - $18,000
Classic: 1985 Mazda RX-7 - $8,900
Carl's wagon is a VW Type 3 Squareback
Daily: R129 SL500(M119, the car I actually daily) , purchased it at $7.6k and 85K miles in 2021
Sports: SW20 MR2 (built for time attack) purchased at $7K with peeling clear, and door dings
Classic: Jaguar XJ12-C (with a broadspeed replica kit, and haltech EFI) $2-4K with no floorboards.
Money spent: $18K on cars
Sub-Remaining: $32K
Devoting: $10K each to repairs and modifications(time attack r129 and hillclimb SW20?)
I feel like a challenge for you two would be what single car would you get for 50. Maybe i am alone with this but I'm a quiver killer type of enthusiast. Also cant afford more than 1 cars worth of maintenance and insurance hah
James got the Golf R in real life, so here's your answer! 😊
Probably a slightly used M340i - both comfortable daily and fun to drive
in order of most liveable to least liveable, supra, m2, z06
I had a 2016 VW Golf. You described it perfectly: easy to live with and practical. It served me perfectly in my city days. and was fun (enough) to drive.
I loved going down the rabbit hole that was James’ choice for his classic😂😂