I honestly hate when a movie or show is marketed to have 'empowering women lead/characters!!' 'First person of color huge lead role!!' 'LGBT character is in the spotlight!!' Cause a lot of times they hype it up to the point where it doesn't deliver according to the audience. This show was way to dependent on the empowering women and LGBT stuff. In the end we got female characters who weren't even that great/likeable and a lesbian couple with no decent screen time or taken seriously as characters? Come on.
I agree. I have absolutely no problem with charactera of any race, gender or sexual orientation. But for goodnesa sake make them good. Even as a kid I'd often dislike female character if she was a just a token girl. I would wish for characters like that to actually do something or to get some personality but NOPE.
Those labels on a movie just makes me not want to watch it. If they have nothing to do with the story then why does it matter? The gender, race or sexual orientation are the most boring part of a character, it's what they are, not who they are.
And She-ra fans said that the show is better than Voltron because lesbians! At least Voltron didn't falsely promise LGBT content to be the center of attention from the beginning (With the exception of saying Shiro is gay but take it how you want)
DororoXPenana I feel like it’s a spectacle, rather than an actual relationship to them. I’ve noticed not many treat is a just a normal relationship. It’s doesn’t need to be loud and flashy, but it does need to be meaningful and heartfelt, like all relationships that mean something to the story. I feel like they’re too scared to go all in.
Netossa and Spinerrela legit only exist to stare into the audience and announce "I'm GAY". And where did all the guards we see in the entire show go. Why are these kids the only ones fighting. Makes no sense. They try so hard to invoke emotion and drama into the finale, but it just doesn't work, it's so badly written and is no different from any hugging scene from any other episode. >Be sad >Blame self >Gets validated >Best Friend Squad hug >Rinse and repeat And to top it all off, they beat them with a rainbow. Absolutely pathetic. I know an army of kindergartners that are more treating than the horde. Also one thing that irks me. Adora has always been capable of beating Catra her entire life, but somehow loses to Catra with the power and speed of She-Ra, with gold armor to defend her self. Even by removing the sword there is no reason Catra should have lasted 10 seconds in that fight.
yeah that problem with the soldiers is so stupid, the kingdom that's leading the rebellion doesn't have an army\soldiers to defend it and just have some kids for defense ( how tf were they fighting before she-ra appeared, it was just bow and glimmer ? ) and why were the elemental princesses in their full power ? i thought they were supposed to be disconnected from their stones or at least having any kind of trouble with the connection as entrapta said and when they showed up the moon stone was weakened so their powers were supposed to be unstable or weak or anything, but they have their full power ? why ?
“considering this is their lowest moment, this is probably around the time you would expect the other princesses to show up and save the day. So the other princesses show up and save the day!” “guys, you got defeated by a rainbow.” The sarcasm in this video is beautiful.
@@theineffableshipper297 You clearly have really low standards, then. I ain't looking for Shakespeare for my kids, but when the show is a barely disguised self-insert fanfic about the showrunner's failed relationships shown through the main character go back to her abuser, and framed as if that's a good thing, I start to question both the quality and the reason why it was created.
@@Slitheringpeanut It really isn’t. It is based off of the original, Noelle didn’t come up with the concept. Noelle wrote the show so much better than anyone else could have. Yall are tok straight for this show
Knowing nothing about the original, I didn't think this show was terrible, but I don't think it's great either. It's just sorta...there for me. It has good concepts & ideas but with poor execution. Most fans of the show I've talked to only seem to care about shipping and praise it for "being gay" which I don't get cause the only canon gay characters had laughably small amounts of screen time.
I never liked the original, back in the 80's. She Ra was a mary sue from the word go, but I didn't (because I was about 10) know what that was at the time. Everything about her is better than He-Man. She took him down without any powers, Hordak is Skeletor's Boss, who is more powerful, thus is more of a threat, She-Ra is rarely the cause of her own problems... I found her boring. But even THAT was more interesting, well thought out, paced and explained that this mess of a 'show'. Which I use loosely.
If you take away all the controversy and the insults towards the fans of the old show, this show is one of the best examples of, "So close and yet so far," in existence. You can tell that there are so many good ideas in here, such as the mystery of the First Ones, the younger generation picking up the slack of the older one, and the spark of good character development in every character. But at every turn it is wasted on stupid jokes to show how these child soldiers are colossal dorks and making people want to imagine teenage lesbians. I never once believed that these were children who grew up in a warzone fearing for their lives every day, which was furthered by how modern the characters acted and talked. The original show had a few things that tied it to the 80's in terms of writing, but most of the dialogue and mannerisms are pretty timeless. Here, I swear the writers and animators were intentionally making every scene solely for the purpose of making gifs online. Especially with the net princess.
GeneTheMachine It’s probably because they are overcompensating for some reason like it’s not a big deal to just have them express a character trait and be simple but you know representation is hard I guess ?
Because they never cared. They only used both Spin and Net to drum up attention. They never were going to commit to the two being actual characters, just props.
When I was a kid I used to like She-Ra more than He-Man because while the the stories were similar, she-ra had better character designs (no thanks to Mattel, though), better villains (the Shadow Weaver is an all-time favourite of mine), and She-Ra herself was a more versatile hero than He-Man (HM was mostly bunching, lifting and using his muscles, SR used brain and brawn, as she punched, kicked and threw horde vehicles around, but she also exploited her sword's tranformation powers, used psychology and was a better tactictician in the use of her allies' powers) not to mention that while Adam had to pretend to be a lazy spoiled brat to cover upt his secret identity, Adora was notoriously a kick-ass even in her non-magical form. I appreciated the slight nods this series made to the original and to the original concepts of the series (before the Filmation took the series, it was all about She-Ra and Catra's rivalry) as well as the references to the MOTU universe in general (like the Despondos thing, the techno-magic nature of Etheria as a whole - like the runestones thing which explains why Etheria is way more diverse and filled with magic than Eternia - and the redesign of Light Hope as a sort of "holographic Sorceress") but there are things that left me quite perplexed. While I can overlook things like Glimmer being a dismissive spoiled brat (if they decided that was her character, what can you do? At least it makes sense), Seahawk being turned into a comedic intermission and Castaspella being turned into a stereotyped aunt, I can't help to wonder why they made some choices they made in the redesign. I love how diverse the cast is, but why changing them so much from the original? I don't talk about the body types or "how they look", but the character themselves. OS's Frosta was a shameless flirtatious girl with a badass attitude, why don't keep it that way instead of turning her into a child? Including a character like that could have been a good way to show that a "pretty girl who flirts a lot" is not necessarily a "queen bee" or a stereotypical cheerleader out of a teen drama, but can be a nice person who supports her friends, and that there's nothing wrong in being friendly (hence making a lesson against "slut shaming" in the show). It would have made more sense if the child character was Perfuma, who in the OS was this head-in-the-clouds girl who turned the Fright Zone into a spring fair the one time she was captured. With Frosta and Perfuma switched, it would have made more sense for Glimmer to be jealous of Bow (as Frosta would have invited him to the prom) and for Perfuma to ignore Adora's warning about Catra and Scorpia, as the OS's Perfuma would have more likely dismissed those claims by believeing C&S were there to have fun. It could have been a good lesson on how giving people a chance and think the best of them is good, but you always have to be careful, specially with people you don't know very well. Instead, we have a petty kid!Frosta who shields herself behind protocol because she hates Adora on the assumption she doesn't take her seriously. So what's the lesson in it? "Be always respectful to the host, even if it's a kid, because otherwise they'll become your enemies?" "If you say something that it's perceived offensive to someone, you'll be automatically wrong even if you are right?" Then there's Entrapta: why make her a princess if she didn't even have a runestone? And what is her character supposed to mean? She's so central to the whole season's plot, yet I don't know what to make of her: she is clearly a negative character from the start (even before irresponsibly playing with unknown tech che had designed her house ad a death trap and forced three people living in it), BUT she's supposed to be one of the "good guys". Then she turns tables and joins the Horde because her "friends" abandoned her (without realizing they thought she was dead). And worst of all they made it look like it was Catra who manipulated her and talked her into joining the Horde, exploiting her alleged "innocence" when she had been a jerk since the beginning! It would have made more sense to introduce her as this tech genius who didn't pledge any allegiance and they wanted to join the rebellion because they needed her help, and since she would have been a neutral party, she could have switched sides more easily (and logically) when Catra offered her to play with the Black Garnet. She could have been a good example of those "false friends" who look friendly and hepful but are in fact selfish and self-centered, and how you can spot the signs early and avoid them. Mermista could have been fine (I appreciated the concept of her being a bored teenager with a "whatever" attitude in sharp contrast with Glimmer) but everything around her makes her character out-of context and makes you question her leadirship skills. You've already addressed this issue, but tbh I think that even a single moment in which she snaps and tells the others that she DOES care, that she's been under pressure since she inherited the throne, but since every effort whe made didn't change the situation she just stopped to care, would have been enough to salvage her character without rewriting the whole episode (perhaps replacing the cringy exchange she has with Seahawk in which they imply they were in a relationship despite him looking much older and she looking in her mid-to-late teens... or at least tell us she's 19 or something). It would have been a good lesson about the importance of not giving up on something important if it's too hard to achieve. But I guess it's not the 80s anymore so cartoons don't have to teach morals anymore?
Of course they don't You see, nowadays, the most important thing for a cartoon is to be either a) funny in the most stupid and/or insulting way possible, OR b) politically correct in the "right way". (Who cares what the audience wants??) If you've somehow created a series that's both at the same time, you pretty much have a masterpiece in your hands!
@@CaffeineDeprivation That's not entirely true, but I guess it depends on the target audience: there are cartoons (mostly targeted to little kids) that still try to teach you a lesson in the process of entertaining, but this becomes more rare as the target audience grows. Thing is any moral lesson in a kid's/teen targeted showe story is always implicit rather than explained to you at the end of the show like the Filmation cartoons did in the 80s, so it becomes open to interpretation - when it doesn't fly right over your head. I mean, the classic episode plot in which the protagonist can't do something on their own then asks for help and they succeed it's still used today, the difference is that at the end of the show there's no annoying side character telling you "Did you see what happened to Protagonist? If you can't do something on your own, ask for help!" (unless the show is targeted 2-5 y.o. and even in that case they say that during the episonde rather than in an epilogue). Animated series with complex stories do touch complex morals and topics even nowadays, but sometimes they forgot how to do it properly. Look at this series: the "betrayal of a friend" is a recurring theme (Catra/Adora, Bow/Glimmer, Princesses/Entrapta) which could have been very interesting but was treated badly, sparsely and poorly.
even with what they were going for... i can see some potential. The problem being you should know what you are capable off and the writers of the show definitely did not do well. They had some interesting ideas, and they had potential to develop them, yet they never really explored them or gave themselves away to either. At moments i just felt like they have been arguing like little siblings drawing on top of each others pictures... I could just see how several "groups" wanted to have totally different take on the show and Noel was the big one that pushed west agenda, "message" they say, "representation" they say. Probably some writers tried to do what they can behind the scenes but that probably was not their biggest priority so yeah... I do not think cartoons or anything should teach morals really. It is art, and about telling stories... it does not always have to be about simple lessons and messages or worse - being a fuking commercial the way She-ra's reboot was. As long as you give yourself to something, as long as there is good writing that make sense i do not care who is morally right or wrong or whatever. It is about being interesting. Personally i was never a big fan of people looking down on children and probably would not enjoy Perfuma being the child, repeating the same trope we have seen so many times once more, but if that is the price of Frosta being closer to her original self and actually making more sense for the story i will take it...
How funny it is that Bo's VA acted like the original was beneath him, when the iteration he portrays is mad that the princesses that came where not the right ones. I fairly sure the OG Bo would have been joyful to see fellow resistance fighters no mater who it was. He's face is just "Oh, right. You two." and let's be honest; I doubt any of them know what they do. I'm going to be blunt; the 'best friend squad' is comprised of all assholes. I feel like Stevenson was made to include them, but didn't want to which would explain their lack of dialog to cut down on paying actors for voice work- and again, just their to reinforce that they're in a relationship. This in itself wouldn't be such a big deal, if every outlet didn't make such a big deal out of it. Why is Adora all of a sudden blaming herself for everything? Self-reproach for everything of the blue is not a sign of character growth. It's learning from mistakes, and Adora's biggest is being friends with Catra and in some cases Glimmer as they both seem manipulative and abusive. How ironic is is that the pudgy princess with wind powers was not only able to move herself much, but couldn't even blow away the enemy tanks? I just find it hilarious they did that. I guess she just got _winded_ quickly. I don't apologize. You know this show deserves the roast. All-in-all; The episode ends the most anti-climatic way that a mediocre show with such high praise from outlets could. With a care bare stare rainbow beam. I honestly saw one screencap from this episode and called that. People I was debating over this show went from loud and obnoxiously defending it to deathly silent. We know "Season 2" won't be any better. Many shows, Dreamworks included love to cut the season they're given in half to make it look like they are given more then they actually are. It's still Season 1, and I doubt Hasbro really wants to continue with this, considering there isn't even a toy line. A toy company not making merchandise for show. That's very telling.
@@Saltedroastedcaramel I think they are lowkey regretting the fact that they let Dreamworks have the rights to She-ra. At least they know better that they should be nice original fans who has supported them and this franchise for years instesd of insulting them like the media has.
*@MeannCat* Glimmer’s powers were useless, Bow has no powers, and the only one that really does have useful powers out of the three is She Ra. I would say neglected Spinerella and Netassa are more useful with their powers.
@@Im.Smaher You do have a point, but only because the people working on this show have no imagination nor experience in writing. Bow was supposed to be into gadgets, even made a sound arrow. Why doesn't he have explosive arrows and electric arrows to use in big battles? Glimmer can teleport, it is a useful power for more than just sneaking. She could be super good at fighting and using weaponry, so teleporting gives an advantage in battles as a way to dodge attacks. Perfuma could make more than just garbage vines, maybe make a plant grow that gives off a dizzying gas to knock out Horde soldiers. [and yeah I know they have masks, but Catra and Scorpia don't so it'd help a bit] With a show like this the creators need a lot of imagination and have at least a basic ability on strategizing. I can't strategize well, but at least I know how to play both sides and think of how I would beat my enemy.
*@MeannCat* The reason Glimmer’s powers are ultimately useless is because it’s the only thing she knows how to do, not counting somehow knowing how to fight in just the season finale.
*@MeannCat* The reason Glimmer’s teleportation powers are ultimately useless is because it’s the only thing she knows how to do, not counting somehow knowing how to fight in just the season finale.
Natosa and spinnerella are exactly how you DON'T do diversity. having the characters just so you can say that "we have diversity" then not do anything with them for the entire season only to have them BARELY contribute at the end. They don't need to be the main characters just give us a reason to like them or remember they exist. i hope thy learn from this and try to build there characters up more in season 2 because this was honestly pritty disappointing
Keep in mind, they had this second season secured from before production even started "Season" is a very loose term when dealing with a Netflix serial since they just buy a number of episodes and portion it out. So they most likely already have the core scenario extending to episode 26 already mostly planned out. That being said, they marketed Netossa and Spinnerella way too hard in the prelaunch promotionals and made them look like a much bigger deal than they actually were for the start of the series. In the end of the day, they effectively debuted in this episode since a single sight gag with them in the 3rd or so episode is not a sufficient introduction when they have no lines until 10 episodes later. If I had to wager a shot in the dark guess- they were pushed to hard for the lesbian diversity points (since their marketing heavily relied on representation over everything else) in addition to Stevenson herself voicing Spinnerella. The former reason ends up being pretty moot when they've also said in interviews literally everyone in the cast is gay unless stated otherwise.
The creators brag about this show having a lesbian couple, only to have said lesbian couple speak very few lines, have a minute or two of screen time, and be treated as a joke by the main characters. I just don’t get why anyone at all likes this show, because the people behind it have put as little effort into it as possible.
right we had better representation before people cared about it
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Another one!? This world iether want to be suicide or out entire planet turns into demolition man!(im not joking!) Seriously iether we get show that trying to be like the opening sequence of beetle juice on LSD! Or lesbians and gays! Seriously the stuff they make for toddlers or kindergardeners is better than any other cartoon today,the only descent disney show today is Lion Guard!
What’s funny is that in an average viewers’ eye,these mistakes and inconsistencies are brushed off. But when it’s in a animator/artist and writers, these flaws to them is like catching a basketball but you’re on the other side of the basketball, shooting it nowhere near the hoop and missing completely. Anyway, thank you girls for reviewing this hot mess of a major disappointment, you can rest......until April.
Your title is spot on. I felt nothing, which was actually an improvement over some episodes. Thanks for taking the hit and reviewing this show. I'll be here if you nice ladies think you are able to survive season 2. Classic She Ra Will always be the best.
I'm honestly more disappointed than I am angry. Even though I knew that I'd get something terrible when I decided to watch it, part of me wishes that this series was good. It had the potential to be a great reboot, but because it's made by SJW assholes who only care about pushing an agenda than telling a good story, it is not. For all this series does wrong, I do see a good series buried in here. If I was to direct this reboot, I'd focus more on the relationship between Adora and Catra and how they grew from loving each other at the beginning, to mortal enemies. Adora is now in the company of people who care about her, but in order to achieve this, she had to lose that one person she cares the most about. Where's Catra is surrounded by people who care about her as well, but she reject their comfort and support, and only accepts it from Adora or Hordak, whom she starts to see as a father figure out of desperation, who has a bad influence on her. It may not be the most original, but it's better than the crap we actually got.
they were just bad writers and with the social justice warriors behind what probably was going to be poorly written anyway despite all great ideas and potential just came out even worse... There were tons of things that deserved so much better, tons of interesting themes that could have been explored but unfortunately they did not... It felt like the writers and Noel were all fighting between themselves as everyone tried to push what they think is the best ignoring the others. Personally i think the show deserves admiration for being able to offending and getting criticism for so many differnet things from so many different people with different values. Some say it is about morals, some claim they pissed off even the gays with their loose "representation", some like me hate the writing and cinematography etc, some talk about disrespect towards the original source, others complain for the art style or animation quality... somehow this was a disaster in the eyes of all audiences.
Here's how'd I'd write it; Hordak commands Entrapta to build him robot troopers that are more durable than his flesh and blood ones. Entrapta says she needs a stronger power source to power them up. Hordak, realizing that Shadow Weaver, the main person who HE ordered to bring back Adora, failed all her missions, kills her and uses the giant crystal(I forgot the name of it, sorry) to power up all his new soldiers. He also had a specialized mech for himself(we'll call it Hordebot Alpha), but Catra, wanting her battle with Adora to be personal, steals it and takes off with the rest of the mech troopers. Cut to She-Ra and the Sparkle Crew getting wrecked by these new troops. Bow's arrows are nothing but paintballs as he gets hit with an uppercut knocking him to the ground. Glimmer's teleporting becomes useless as the reflexes of the troopers are superior enough to overpower her. And then here comes Catra, coming in with Hordebot Alpha. Feeling nothing but rage after the countless amounts of times she's tried to persuade her to rejoin Hordak, only has one objective: kill She-Ra. After learning about the She-Ra inheritance, Adora storms into battle, a giant amongst ants, tearing through the troopers like a hot knife through butter. With the mindset to destroy all Horde enforcements clouding up her mind, she runs up to Hordebot Alpha and slices it in half effortlessly. Cut to a still of She-Ra slashing through the mech(like those stills animes used to do). Through the wreckage, She-Ra sees the body of Catra lying unconscious. She turns back into Adora to check up on her fallen friend, only to have her rise up and slash at her with her claws. "Why did you do this? You could've prevented this! Remember the times where we laughed at the princesses and their flashy clothes? Where did the love go, Adora? Do you WANT to be the reason Brightmoon falls?" "I know where I stand. And I'm not going anywhere...old friend." Knowing that her words won't move Adora, Catra runs away, with her tail literally between her legs. Then Adora checks up on her friends to see if they're okay. They all celebrate after successfully driving off the Horde. The camera then pans out to reveal Hordak atop a mountain, looking at Castle Brightmoon from afar. "So, my greatest soldier became the strongest being on this pathetic space rock? It doesn't matter. Friends come and go, but the Horde will last forever..." Let me know what you guys think!
I was with you up to when She-Ra easily beat Catra in Hordebot Alpha. Maybe even when she storms into battle. This version of Adora has no idea how to use She-Ra's powers. However, the second episode showed that She-Ra can have this mode where it's more like the Avatar State and does stuff outside of Adora's control. I think that should be what takes over at the minute when everyone is backed against the wall by these new troopers and fancy new Hordebot. So she starts wrecking everyone and turning the tide of battle. But then Adora snaps out of the trance when she realizes that Hordebot Alpha is being piloted by Catra, whom she rescues from it before it ultimately blows up. She's fully apologetic to Catra, but Catra isn't having it, being completely unaware that She-Ra was in control and not adora. This makes Catra double down on her idea that they are no longer friends and completely unsalvageable. Then Catra uses some distant explosion as a distraction to escape. Hordak didn't really care about Adora nor She-Ra, so he wouldn't really comment on it.
1. Netossa and spinnerella. Chekov's lesbian couple. This is why diversity isn't a selling point for a series. Their flagship thesis, set aside, literally chekov's. And on spinnerella, the new method of using her abilities is why the fat jokes were precognitive. The creator played DND, she knows how magic works, but she played a warlock so verbal components are ignored. 2. I get bow's reaction, but not for the reason you would think. Bow always been the odd man out. Everytime he suggested something, tactical or otherwise, was literally laughed at for suggesting something because of the lipstick lesbian couple. Now an actual lesbian couple showed up, he probably would have been arrested post battle on average, summary execution would be my bet. 3. When I heard about the rainbow attack, I rolled my eyes. It was described as a angry lesbian care bear stare, and I agree. The power of gay to compel the straight away! I told my gay friends about it, 3 out of 5 said really?! My artist friend drew a angry lesbian care bear, because that's basically the real premise of the series. And the last friend wasn't sure if he should facepalm or Neal Patrick Harris joke.
TheSouloftheDragon They were too busy pushing their agenda, patting themselves on the back & trashing the original & its fans to actually worry about the storyline.
Spinerella's face absolutely does not match her body. If Noelle Stephenson, or anyone else on this show, ever took an actual art course, then clearly no lessons were actually learned.
LittleSweetHeart141 Right. She wears a skin tight outfit, yet she has no lumps, bumps or fat rolls. Same with Glimmer & Octavia. If you're gonna insist on having overweight characters, you should at least draw them anatomically correctly.
How does the Horde not have an air force or air corps of any kind? They have skiffs that can fly like speeders in Star Wars, we see Catra and Scorpia fly off in what looks like a spaceship, and yet the Horde hasn't produced squadrons of bombers, dive-bombers, fighters, escorts, etc to use against Brightmoon? If you control the sky, you can control the battlefield. Do they not have enough pilots? Did they run out of pilots like the Luftwaffe did in World War II? No wonder the Horde sucks at warfare.
The show was honestly a disaster from the start to the finish - what was meant to be empowering shows entirely the opposite, 'capable female leaders,' making reckless choices and downright questionable at best - moments of development are quickly backpedalled in the favour of the next humorous point. A show can work with humour, case and point in Avatar, but the growth felt superficial and didn't just feel genuine? It was either rushed or squashed in, only, not to matter an episode later. I did actually like Glimmer, and if her character was better written, I would have enjoyed her a lot more. I did like her, I honestly did and I liked her re-design, but in Princess Prom, I wished she focused more on the rebellion, rather than 'friendship problems,' but meh. Empowering females didn't care about their Kingdom, purposefully endangered their Kingdom or were treated as nothing - just what is empowering about that? Inclusive characters were treated as nothing in itself, wasted space and air. The Horde seemed more befitting of a Saturday Cheesy Special - the seriousness and some of the tension just didn't hit me; considering what we saw already. Catra is an interesting character and a dynamic that is good, but I wished she wasn't rewarded almost every other episode. I wish she had her own success that merited what she got; not plot armour. She-Ra and the Princess of Powers is honestly a flat three to me, some of the ideas and character designs were nice, but too many errors, opposite to what they were trying to achieve and they should have left the name She-Ra out of this.
I wish we got to learn more about the lesbian couple (Netossa and Spinnerella).I wanted to see what their kingdom looked like,how they were as rulers, how they both become a couple, their personalities and etc.
If it was its own original IP, its passable. But the fact that it used an existing IP and shat at the fans who liked the original just made it unforgivable. They even went as far as insulting the original VAs and all the effort put by the original She-Ra staff into the original show. That's just not right.
A predictable ending for a painfully predictable show. This had to be the most corporate processed show I have ever seen. Thanks for enduring this for us ladies. God help you in the second season.
I actually find Bo's disappointement and the fact he doesnt know what they do amusing. Since it can be taken in another way, as in you dont know what they do overall, like they just show up to the meetings but never say or do anything. I'm pretty sure that you can just edit them out and nothing will change. I actually forgot they existed when I saw that episode. Also for the rest of the episode. It is stupid to put the world in a eternal enormus caos since it will make things harder when you conquer it. Actually covering the world in darkness wasnt part of the initial plan. It will be funny if Hordak just calls over to Catra and say that their little stunt just costed them a intire army division
My biggest issue is the princesses just appearing. Last we saw they were all 'we're weak together' and turtling in their own kingdoms then just 'we're here to fight together!' with no inbetween. Like five seconds of showing them watching Adora and them getting tossed around, was that really too hard? It makes what little emotional impact the scene with them splitting up then returning feel worthless.
Yeah missed opportunities abound Should've showed why Adora was capable enough to be a Horde Force Captain than Catra instead *in her most powerful form* she gets beat Frosta doesn't apologize not even in a tsundere way which could be tolerable Rainbow finish calls into question if we can just continue doing that past this point Hordak rewards by failure than success, shadow weaver gone which is dumb Catra fails but takes no consequence to it Entrapra could've lost her country but shows no care to it Could go on but it's horrible as a series, a reboot, a reimagining, and it's own thing
Can someone please re-write this show? Like, an alternate universe fanfic or something? I feel like under the right writer it could actually be good. Have the battles be big and epic, change it so that it really is She-Ra's fault so she has a reason to blame herself, have the Horde be intimidating etc.
A lackluster ending to a lackluster season. And given that the current series of MLP isn't even the first to do the whole 'DEFEAT THE BADDIE WITH RAINBOWS!!11' shit, can it just be said that nothing in this show is revolutionary, like....at all? Getting up to this point in the series, the whole thing has been a mediocre waste of time and energy with far too much ego behind it for its own good. Had Noelle and her crew just been lax about it, not bringing up 'toxic masculinity' or being disrespectful asshole to both older fans and the creators of the original show, I would have been a lot more patient with them. I wouldn't let it be an excuse for the show being so slowly paced but I would have at least a lot more open about the show but they ruined that moment themselves by acting like jackasses. She-Ra is yet another reboot that needs to go down on how not to do it; how not to treat the original source, how not to create your own timeline for the reboot and how not to treat fans, whether they be older fans or new ones. The whole series just leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I'm far more bothered at the pretentiousness of Noelle n crew than the show sucking as a whole and I'll tell you why. Noelle and a lot of current animators in her group are being held not only in high regard but are being set up as the standard. This should be a worrying sign for a lot of fledgling animators who actually care because shows like She-Ra are setting the bar incredibly low. Shows like She-Ra and other bad reboots and even new IPs are setting a mindset that you don't have to try at all. You don't have to world build, you don't have to develop your characters and so on. All you have to do is project yourself and how important YOU, or better yet your LABELS, are in order to get attention and praise. Most of the praise from this show is always aimed at how 'diverse' it is when for any well-adjusted weeb or even fans of older series know that there is not one thing that this reboot does that has broken ANY grounds at all. Gay characters? Even in US shows? In a POSITIVE light? Been done before. Fat characters that aren't jokes? Been done before. Black characters? Been done before. Female lead? It's a reboot of a female lead series so IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE. Hell, even behind the scenes there is nothing ground breaking about this series so in the end, the show is not just mediocre, it's mediocre without a goal all the while pretending that it has done something. Hell, even as sick as people are with the fan art, it's not even new in shipping. Tumblr was already flooded with underage lesbian porn fanart before this shit arrived. (whomp whoooomp) I have a feeling that one the show is over and time has passed people won't talk about Nu-Ra. It just doesn't have the lasting touch as the original show and for all it tries to do to appease a crowd that no one wants, I can beat that in five years those same people will find something 'problematic' about this whole series, making all attempt to draw this crowd in completely pointless.
After watching a few more of your videos I took a “If they can sit through this Meh Fest, I can too!” And to be honest I think I finally realized the whole point of this show. It just a show that lives for moments of empowering women, minorities, and LGBT. That’s not a bad thing, it’s not a good thing, it’s just a thing. That said cause of it if you are looking for some deep story about rebels fighting and evil power....yeah....we are just gonna get moments of things being pushed. It’s not bad or good, just boring if you where wanting anything close to old She-ra.
People will start to not like it. Steven Universe had a lot of similar issues along with relying on diversity and anime references. A lot of people including hardcore fans have started to drop it. Only reason a lot still follow it is basically to just complete it since they've already invested so much time into it...it's like a completionist with gamers, they just keep going.
Mjtanner + savvy viewers: What about plot, characterization, loose points? Writers: you can ship them all ***exits in Tuxedo Mask*** (side note: I'm not atacking shippers, the writers could have fixed the above & still had a shippable show)
The creator claimed this show is supposed to "empower women", but it fails to do just that. I felt more insulted by this show than anything else. It's an assult on your intelligence and your eyes. If the creator and writers had focused on writing interesting and likeable female characters, as well as a decent story, instead of bragging about how much "gurl power" their show has, it might have been a decent cartoon.
The only reason Netossa and Spinerella was included in this final episode was to cram it down the viewers throat that they're lesbians (no, seriously - throughout the entire episode; they're more intimate with each other than they had been in previous episode. i.e. - linking their arms together, using pet names, always being ridiculously close to one another). Ain;t nothing wrong with lesbians; but why does it need to be so blatant?
I don’t think Entrapta is “evil.” She just seems like one of those eccentric scientists that always focus on if they can do something stupid and dangerous and never stopping to ask if they should.
20:29 Nice scene that Angella wraps her wings around them...but I guess they can only remember one set of wings at a time? Swift Wind's wings appear to be missing.
@@CaffeineDeprivation well, I probably could list any anime I know. But not from last month. Started rewatching one piece. I'm not sure if this decision was great or a horrible mistake.
I agree so much, it would have been much better if they lost the fight and had to flee. They could have had the princesses come save glimmers family and the crew. They could have been refugees trying to rebuild their forces. I really felt they didnt give me a reason to watch season 2 . It left me saying meh I'm not invested. Oh an I bet her hair is advanced technology mixed with magic.
Maybe someone here can explain... The Princesses apparently get their power from the Runestones right...but how does that work exactly? Why is it that Glimmer seems to be the only one who has to "recharge" her powers? None of the others ever seem to "run out" of magic... Also the Queen...does she recharge? Does it power her wings maybe? So many questions...
I thought they said that Adora/She-Ra and the other main characters were warriors first and foremost. Since when did they decided to do a 180° and make them a bunch of bratty teens whose main concerns are parties and going to prom!
@The Ineffable Shipper Then the writers shouldn't have claimed that they were warriors, as they are clearly not warriors based on what they're describing. If they really are warriors and heroes, they should have clearly been depicted prioritizing victory, the safety of their citizens and doing the right thing over that of partying, even if they're teens.
@The Ineffable Shipper Nope, they're stereotypical bratty teens. That's what Noelle Stevenson and her crew of woke feminist have turned them into, a bunch of Flanderized stereotypes.
@The Ineffable Shipper Gee Ya don't say. And this is why the whole world is screwed up. And don't try and change the subject by bringing up pronouns. I know how this BS works. Also there have been many interviews of Noelle Stevenson where she was called she and her by interviewers without incident. 🙄 So yeah, don't try to Bullshit with me!
The thing that bothers me most about the show is the art style. It just doesn't look like anime. It looks like they traced a how to draw Anime book. *Edit:* I figured out why they didn't nail the anime look. In anime the backgrounds and props are always hyper realistic here they aren't, these artists always pick the most unnatural colors possible, real anime has more cultural references to Japan, Anime has more fanservice.
the art style is fine, the drawing is a mess. no shade other than in the neck and in the nose bridge area, and that shade is awful because they paint it at all times. the shade made it manacing, just look at the pic when they hugging together (not from this episode), adora and bow are like villain. no wrinkle in their clothes whatsoever. sometime detail in brest-armpit area, breast or knee area is void. the background sometime detail sometime simple, but the character always pop from the backgroud because they lack details. this is a cherry pick from me: she-ra looks like a boy. no breast, broad shoulder, muscular arm, thick eyebrown. even japan make muscular woman looks like a woman not a man. my students can make better drawing than this.
Well, i think the earlier seasons were better. As the home world plot progressed things got bog down also the creators adding more subplots while trying to tie everything together. ... Tho I'm done with the show, if there's another season I'm not watching.
Gotta say, even though I despise Steven Universe (stopped watching aeound season 2 because I got too annoyed at the main characters, Peridot is the only character I like now), it's vastly better than She-Ra because it does at least have an interesting setting and tries to tell a good story. The characters' sexualities are not their main selling point, but rather their backstories is what keeps them interesting.
This was, quite possibly, the absolute worst finale to a show I have ever seen, and I didn't even watch it! Everything that happens in this episode, *everything,* is so poorly constructed that it hurts. There is no doubt in my mind that this whole "season 2" thing is just season 1 split into two parts, because there is no way in hell this show is coming back based on merit. I have to ask, what made this better than the original? There is no character development, barely any plot, and a veritable sea of bad animation. I swear, I could write a book on everything that is wrong with this series, and more than half of it would cover just this finale. This show really did have potential. There were a lot of good ideas, but they are painfully underutilized. I highly doubt season 2 is going to be any better, and I have a feeling that Netflix won't be making a season 3, and if it is, it is purely from the fact that Netflix, as a company, has money to blow. All in all, this episode was terrible, and when season 2 comes out, I pray it's better, but I'm quite sure it won't be.
Summary of this series. All of the characters are stereotypical teens heroes and the story is make of plot connivence and tropes. I feel like people like catra is favorited because she’s not an annoying trope/stereotype
catra also seems to be a character. however shes a bit mary sue with how shes just handed upgrades for losing... force captain hordaks fave SECOND IN COMMAND?
This whole show can be sum up to Shipping. Honestly majority of the people I follow on Twitter don’t even mention the world building or the plot . They just care if the cat is going to go with the blonde Wonder Woman
I'm glad that you're She-ra free until April. My over dramatic imagination pictured you finishing & staggering out into the bright sun free from your burden.
Question... okay so at 12:41 She-Ra has new-ish armor I guess and I assume it was from Glimmer's armory? Did they just have upgrades for only Bow, Glimmer and She-Ra's basic outfits? Also that sword turning into shield thing is still not explained. Even the first time it just "happened" with no commands or any explaining of why... Also I always figured She-Ra was nigh invulnerable to harm... how's she taking damage from a 15-year-old humanoid girl cat's claws? For that matter, that "armor" must be made of tissue paper...
i kind of liked the rainbow attack but i agree with frosta just coming out of no where and helping when she didn't want to be in the alliance to begin with she is just a glorified spoiled brat that just happens to be a princess, i think the end should have begin with the horde winning and then the next season could be about she-ra and the others getting back together while taking back some of the territory of the horde and maybe katra being bored after winning and seeing that winning was not all she wanted it to be until she-ra and the others fight back
She-Ra is most likely weakened because she lost her sword and she gets power from stones that are out sync. Lighthope probably wanted Glimmer to learn from her weakness and use her new power. But I maybe reading to much into glitching.
"Guys, you got defeated by a rainbow." Oh, if only the cast could actually say in unison, "Taste the Rainbow, motherfuckers!" it would make it both hilarious and badass. Oh, if only, if only.
A lackluster final episode for a underwhelming overall lackluster series... And about Entrapta, I kinda think they copied a character from "Sora Wo Kakeru Shoujo". The little sister of the main character (Akiha) has a living alien cap friend that she uses as a pair of extra limbs that do a lot of things like helping her or reach things that are far away from Akiha's little sis...
I wouldn't go that far, Entrapa's original design always had prehensile hair- Sora Wo Kakeru Shoujo also also far from the first to pull off that gimmick.
I think that adora blames herself for everything is because she is shera and shera is supposed to be powerful and heal, so shera is supposed to be able to protect everyone in adora's eyes. So I think that is why adora blames herself for everything when it actually was not her fault.
After the first couple of episodes I gave up any hope of a good finale. The worst thing is we get a second season. The best thing is we get a second season listening to you both critique the show. Look forward to your other content.
I think I know why Netossa and Spinerella get very little screen time. They're the carrot on a stick for the lesbian shippers to encourage them to keep watching the show.
That's what Adora and Catra are for though...really it's the entire cast- I swear somebody from the staff tweeted or said in an interview everyone is gay unless they explicitly state otherwise. Full disclosure I could be remembering that part wrong, but it sure does feel like it's accurate.
@@gtf234 That sounds like the creator is queer-baiting. Like, actually queer-baiting. She's pretty much saying "All these characters are gay FOR NOW until I say otherwise".
This show was disappointing on so many levels. I wanted to like the show, I really did, but when you talk a big game and you execute it poorly it’s not going to receive any kind of good credit. The show runners made a lot of promises when marketing this “reboot” and followed with untrue criticism of the original. They promised representation and the finale just had us learn that there have been two gay characters this whole time, and every princess was incompetent at being a leader. So much for women empowerment in the late 2010s. And then the whole thing with consent that you’ve mentioned multiple times. Overall, I think this She-Ra is terrible. But then again, this was just the first season, which means there’s a 50/50 chance it could get worse like Supergirl or it could get better from building off of the mistakes that were made. I love this series you two have made. You two did great and I can’t wait to for your next video. ❤️
So yeah this indeed fact the catra show.Its so weird seeing the villain get more development than the hero cast.Also I wouldnt be surprised if Entraptas kingdom was flourishing now that shes gone.
Hey i have an Idea how to make this she-ra reboot awesome : Take the scrip from the old show but use the reboot design and it will be a better story with "diversity" and it will show much more implication in the story that what we saw till now
How are we supposed to care about the lesbian relationship when the only line they get is the most forced thing ever. Its just impossible to care about them
I know I sound like a broken record when saying this, BUUUUUUUUUTTTT.... Read the 2012 Nasters of the Universe Comic by DC. It’s fun, exciting, great art, and has a really interesting version of Adora. It starts of with her conquering Brightmoon and either killing or enslaving the inhabitants. On top of that you get a Rapunzel Mother Gothel relationship with her and Shadoweaver. Adora is constantly afflicted by visions of her past and what she will become, and shadoweaver constantly mindwipes her, with it working less and less every time.
Eternian War was edgy as fuck. And it still is better than what this tried to do. They actually created cool ideas and concepts that really worked. Adora's entire journey was just sad and fucked up. Her friendship to Teela was great.
While I admit that the writers did take the "Power of Friendship Saves the Day" routine in a more creative direction, it still looks like a total Deus Ex Machina. Really, this show is just riddled Mediocrity They had 9 episode to help develop Netossa and Spinnerella and include them in as major members of the Rebellion, and now they only get shown doing something?
It was quite a jorney to hear your points, and i can concur that things could have been done a lot lot better, and i say this even if i fell in love with the show and am hyped for the rest of the seasons, me and many others are surely hoping all the flaws get ironed out as they dont have to establish a fanbase anymore and can focus now on proper world building and story progression.
Entrapta's hair is not magic, it's tech. Smart cybernetic nanotube monofilaments. Plus she needs a reinforced metal skull and spine (Borg Queen style) to not snap her neck while hair-vaulting Bionic Commando style while carrying another person. As she did with Bow in System Failure.
@@lavenderplace8591 Yeah, why not. It's a fan theory but makes sense. Since the First Ones tech is also magitech ("any technology advanced enough is indistinguishable from magic").
This was a weird series, it has so many subplots that it fails amazingly in wrapping things up; this is an example of a disconnect between writers, what I'm thinking is that Noelle Stevenson only worked full time in 3 episodes during season 1, the first 2 chapters and then the season finally, the she only "supervised".
Honestly, for all the talk that their show is supposed to be superior to the original 1980's version, it seems that they have no problems stooping to levels of cheesy clichés, that they could only get away with if it actually was the 1980's or at the least the early 1990's. Come to think of it I don't even recall any of the old She-Ra series's episodes having done this.
after watching 2 episode of the old She-Ra and a few wikia articles later. yes, this netflix reebot is all over the place and the writer just changes every character, story, plot, etc to be "relevant"
12:42 I didn't even notice this until I re-watched the change...but why is this new outfit part of her transformation now? Like a last second sparkle change? At first I thought she got it from the armory... Did she get an upgrade? Was this to sneak in a new design? Why did this happen? Did new armor magically appear on Swift Wind too? WTH?
Honestly, I was fin with she ra's new desighn, but after seing the guard 7:12 they could have done so much better. Seriously if she ra looked lik that it would be the coolest thing ever
I was solidly done with the atrociously animated talking alicorn. Like holy retinas why did it look so bad. Also the out of nowhere talking part... I know the horse originally talked but it literally came at random.
why were the elemental princesses in their full power ? i thought they were supposed to be disconnected from their stones or at least having any kind of trouble with the connection as entrapta said and when they showed up the moon stone was weakened so their powers were supposed to be unstable or weak or anything, but they have their full power ? i thought they would've problems like the one that glimmer has cuz they said that her powers were messed up because her connection to her stone was messed up ( i think they did, i don't care much about this show and my memory is shit )
am i the only one who is wondering why did the sword has a friendship rainbow power? like it wasnt literaly in the privius episode where adora is suppost to leave all earth binds begine?, why does that power exist? if she is suppost to be fucking alone!, consistency and continuity what do this words mean? so much vocals confuse me!. btw that moment where a show about colorful horse (and actual kid show) can handle better clifhangers, end season episode and power of colorful friendship better than you.....
I honestly hate when a movie or show is marketed to have 'empowering women lead/characters!!' 'First person of color huge lead role!!' 'LGBT character is in the spotlight!!' Cause a lot of times they hype it up to the point where it doesn't deliver according to the audience. This show was way to dependent on the empowering women and LGBT stuff. In the end we got female characters who weren't even that great/likeable and a lesbian couple with no decent screen time or taken seriously as characters? Come on.
I agree. I have absolutely no problem with charactera of any race, gender or sexual orientation. But for goodnesa sake make them good.
Even as a kid I'd often dislike female character if she was a just a token girl. I would wish for characters like that to actually do something or to get some personality but NOPE.
Two words: Captain Marvel
Those labels on a movie just makes me not want to watch it. If they have nothing to do with the story then why does it matter? The gender, race or sexual orientation are the most boring part of a character, it's what they are, not who they are.
And She-ra fans said that the show is better than Voltron because lesbians! At least Voltron didn't falsely promise LGBT content to be the center of attention from the beginning (With the exception of saying Shiro is gay but take it how you want)
DororoXPenana I feel like it’s a spectacle, rather than an actual relationship to them. I’ve noticed not many treat is a just a normal relationship. It’s doesn’t need to be loud and flashy, but it does need to be meaningful and heartfelt, like all relationships that mean something to the story. I feel like they’re too scared to go all in.
Netossa and Spinerrela legit only exist to stare into the audience and announce "I'm GAY". And where did all the guards we see in the entire show go. Why are these kids the only ones fighting. Makes no sense. They try so hard to invoke emotion and drama into the finale, but it just doesn't work, it's so badly written and is no different from any hugging scene from any other episode.
>Be sad
>Blame self
>Gets validated
>Best Friend Squad hug
>Rinse and repeat
And to top it all off, they beat them with a rainbow. Absolutely pathetic. I know an army of kindergartners that are more treating than the horde.
Also one thing that irks me. Adora has always been capable of beating Catra her entire life, but somehow loses to Catra with the power and speed of She-Ra, with gold armor to defend her self. Even by removing the sword there is no reason Catra should have lasted 10 seconds in that fight.
yeah that problem with the soldiers is so stupid, the kingdom that's leading the rebellion doesn't have an army\soldiers to defend it and just have some kids for defense ( how tf were they fighting before she-ra appeared, it was just bow and glimmer ? )
and why were the elemental princesses in their full power ? i thought they were supposed to be disconnected from their stones or at least having any kind of trouble with the connection as entrapta said and when they showed up the moon stone was weakened so their powers were supposed to be unstable or weak or anything, but they have their full power ? why ?
@@Yuma39 Right? The show is so fucking inconsistent
I’m disappointed. This couple would have been more awesome if we saw them more often.
“considering this is their lowest moment, this is probably around the time you would expect the other princesses to show up and save the day. So the other princesses show up and save the day!”
“guys, you got defeated by a rainbow.”
The sarcasm in this video is beautiful.
It's clearly much better done than the show was.
I love your reactions to she ra.
@@Slitheringpeanut the show is amazing tf
@@theineffableshipper297 You clearly have really low standards, then.
I ain't looking for Shakespeare for my kids, but when the show is a barely disguised self-insert fanfic about the showrunner's failed relationships shown through the main character go back to her abuser, and framed as if that's a good thing, I start to question both the quality and the reason why it was created.
@@Slitheringpeanut It really isn’t. It is based off of the original, Noelle didn’t come up with the concept. Noelle wrote the show so much better than anyone else could have. Yall are tok straight for this show
Knowing nothing about the original, I didn't think this show was terrible, but I don't think it's great either. It's just sorta...there for me. It has good concepts & ideas but with poor execution. Most fans of the show I've talked to only seem to care about shipping and praise it for "being gay" which I don't get cause the only canon gay characters had laughably small amounts of screen time.
I never liked the original, back in the 80's. She Ra was a mary sue from the word go, but I didn't (because I was about 10) know what that was at the time.
Everything about her is better than He-Man. She took him down without any powers, Hordak is Skeletor's Boss, who is more powerful, thus is more of a threat, She-Ra is rarely the cause of her own problems... I found her boring.
But even THAT was more interesting, well thought out, paced and explained that this mess of a 'show'. Which I use loosely.
Are ya'll still saying that after season five???
@@purplepeople9924 yea they’re just hetero bffs just gal pals
If you take away all the controversy and the insults towards the fans of the old show, this show is one of the best examples of, "So close and yet so far," in existence. You can tell that there are so many good ideas in here, such as the mystery of the First Ones, the younger generation picking up the slack of the older one, and the spark of good character development in every character. But at every turn it is wasted on stupid jokes to show how these child soldiers are colossal dorks and making people want to imagine teenage lesbians. I never once believed that these were children who grew up in a warzone fearing for their lives every day, which was furthered by how modern the characters acted and talked. The original show had a few things that tied it to the 80's in terms of writing, but most of the dialogue and mannerisms are pretty timeless. Here, I swear the writers and animators were intentionally making every scene solely for the purpose of making gifs online. Especially with the net princess.
Just call the show 'Catra' and be done with it.
CATRA DESTROYS THE WORLD
I want her to destroy it
For a show that supposed to have LGBT representation, they sure don't give them much screen time throughout the season.
GeneTheMachine YEAH! They had Netossa and Spinnerella,but like they barely showed them.
GeneTheMachine It’s probably because they are overcompensating for some reason like it’s not a big deal to just have them express a character trait and be simple but you know representation is hard I guess ?
Plus we never get to see Sweet Bee and Peekablue, the only other characters we know are in an LGBT relationship.
Because they never cared. They only used both Spin and Net to drum up attention. They never were going to commit to the two being actual characters, just props.
I Will be honest, I always though the gay couple was supposed to be Adora and Catra.
When I was a kid I used to like She-Ra more than He-Man because while the the stories were similar, she-ra had better character designs (no thanks to Mattel, though), better villains (the Shadow Weaver is an all-time favourite of mine), and She-Ra herself was a more versatile hero than He-Man (HM was mostly bunching, lifting and using his muscles, SR used brain and brawn, as she punched, kicked and threw horde vehicles around, but she also exploited her sword's tranformation powers, used psychology and was a better tactictician in the use of her allies' powers) not to mention that while Adam had to pretend to be a lazy spoiled brat to cover upt his secret identity, Adora was notoriously a kick-ass even in her non-magical form.
I appreciated the slight nods this series made to the original and to the original concepts of the series (before the Filmation took the series, it was all about She-Ra and Catra's rivalry) as well as the references to the MOTU universe in general (like the Despondos thing, the techno-magic nature of Etheria as a whole - like the runestones thing which explains why Etheria is way more diverse and filled with magic than Eternia - and the redesign of Light Hope as a sort of "holographic Sorceress") but there are things that left me quite perplexed.
While I can overlook things like Glimmer being a dismissive spoiled brat (if they decided that was her character, what can you do? At least it makes sense), Seahawk being turned into a comedic intermission and Castaspella being turned into a stereotyped aunt, I can't help to wonder why they made some choices they made in the redesign.
I love how diverse the cast is, but why changing them so much from the original? I don't talk about the body types or "how they look", but the character themselves.
OS's Frosta was a shameless flirtatious girl with a badass attitude, why don't keep it that way instead of turning her into a child? Including a character like that could have been a good way to show that a "pretty girl who flirts a lot" is not necessarily a "queen bee" or a stereotypical cheerleader out of a teen drama, but can be a nice person who supports her friends, and that there's nothing wrong in being friendly (hence making a lesson against "slut shaming" in the show).
It would have made more sense if the child character was Perfuma, who in the OS was this head-in-the-clouds girl who turned the Fright Zone into a spring fair the one time she was captured. With Frosta and Perfuma switched, it would have made more sense for Glimmer to be jealous of Bow (as Frosta would have invited him to the prom) and for Perfuma to ignore Adora's warning about Catra and Scorpia, as the OS's Perfuma would have more likely dismissed those claims by believeing C&S were there to have fun. It could have been a good lesson on how giving people a chance and think the best of them is good, but you always have to be careful, specially with people you don't know very well. Instead, we have a petty kid!Frosta who shields herself behind protocol because she hates Adora on the assumption she doesn't take her seriously. So what's the lesson in it? "Be always respectful to the host, even if it's a kid, because otherwise they'll become your enemies?" "If you say something that it's perceived offensive to someone, you'll be automatically wrong even if you are right?"
Then there's Entrapta: why make her a princess if she didn't even have a runestone? And what is her character supposed to mean? She's so central to the whole season's plot, yet I don't know what to make of her: she is clearly a negative character from the start (even before irresponsibly playing with unknown tech che had designed her house ad a death trap and forced three people living in it), BUT she's supposed to be one of the "good guys". Then she turns tables and joins the Horde because her "friends" abandoned her (without realizing they thought she was dead). And worst of all they made it look like it was Catra who manipulated her and talked her into joining the Horde, exploiting her alleged "innocence" when she had been a jerk since the beginning! It would have made more sense to introduce her as this tech genius who didn't pledge any allegiance and they wanted to join the rebellion because they needed her help, and since she would have been a neutral party, she could have switched sides more easily (and logically) when Catra offered her to play with the Black Garnet. She could have been a good example of those "false friends" who look friendly and hepful but are in fact selfish and self-centered, and how you can spot the signs early and avoid them.
Mermista could have been fine (I appreciated the concept of her being a bored teenager with a "whatever" attitude in sharp contrast with Glimmer) but everything around her makes her character out-of context and makes you question her leadirship skills. You've already addressed this issue, but tbh I think that even a single moment in which she snaps and tells the others that she DOES care, that she's been under pressure since she inherited the throne, but since every effort whe made didn't change the situation she just stopped to care, would have been enough to salvage her character without rewriting the whole episode (perhaps replacing the cringy exchange she has with Seahawk in which they imply they were in a relationship despite him looking much older and she looking in her mid-to-late teens... or at least tell us she's 19 or something). It would have been a good lesson about the importance of not giving up on something important if it's too hard to achieve.
But I guess it's not the 80s anymore so cartoons don't have to teach morals anymore?
Of course they don't
You see, nowadays, the most important thing for a cartoon is to be either a) funny in the most stupid and/or insulting way possible, OR b) politically correct in the "right way". (Who cares what the audience wants??)
If you've somehow created a series that's both at the same time, you pretty much have a masterpiece in your hands!
@@CaffeineDeprivation That's not entirely true, but I guess it depends on the target audience: there are cartoons (mostly targeted to little kids) that still try to teach you a lesson in the process of entertaining, but this becomes more rare as the target audience grows. Thing is any moral lesson in a kid's/teen targeted showe story is always implicit rather than explained to you at the end of the show like the Filmation cartoons did in the 80s, so it becomes open to interpretation - when it doesn't fly right over your head.
I mean, the classic episode plot in which the protagonist can't do something on their own then asks for help and they succeed it's still used today, the difference is that at the end of the show there's no annoying side character telling you "Did you see what happened to Protagonist? If you can't do something on your own, ask for help!" (unless the show is targeted 2-5 y.o. and even in that case they say that during the episonde rather than in an epilogue).
Animated series with complex stories do touch complex morals and topics even nowadays, but sometimes they forgot how to do it properly. Look at this series: the "betrayal of a friend" is a recurring theme (Catra/Adora, Bow/Glimmer, Princesses/Entrapta) which could have been very interesting but was treated badly, sparsely and poorly.
even with what they were going for... i can see some potential. The problem being you should know what you are capable off and the writers of the show definitely did not do well. They had some interesting ideas, and they had potential to develop them, yet they never really explored them or gave themselves away to either. At moments i just felt like they have been arguing like little siblings drawing on top of each others pictures... I could just see how several "groups" wanted to have totally different take on the show and Noel was the big one that pushed west agenda, "message" they say, "representation" they say. Probably some writers tried to do what they can behind the scenes but that probably was not their biggest priority so yeah...
I do not think cartoons or anything should teach morals really. It is art, and about telling stories... it does not always have to be about simple lessons and messages or worse - being a fuking commercial the way She-ra's reboot was. As long as you give yourself to something, as long as there is good writing that make sense i do not care who is morally right or wrong or whatever. It is about being interesting.
Personally i was never a big fan of people looking down on children and probably would not enjoy Perfuma being the child, repeating the same trope we have seen so many times once more, but if that is the price of Frosta being closer to her original self and actually making more sense for the story i will take it...
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How funny it is that Bo's VA acted like the original was beneath him, when the iteration he portrays is mad that the princesses that came where not the right ones. I fairly sure the OG Bo would have been joyful to see fellow resistance fighters no mater who it was. He's face is just "Oh, right. You two." and let's be honest; I doubt any of them know what they do. I'm going to be blunt; the 'best friend squad' is comprised of all assholes. I feel like Stevenson was made to include them, but didn't want to which would explain their lack of dialog to cut down on paying actors for voice work- and again, just their to reinforce that they're in a relationship. This in itself wouldn't be such a big deal, if every outlet didn't make such a big deal out of it.
Why is Adora all of a sudden blaming herself for everything? Self-reproach for everything of the blue is not a sign of character growth. It's learning from mistakes, and Adora's biggest is being friends with Catra and in some cases Glimmer as they both seem manipulative and abusive.
How ironic is is that the pudgy princess with wind powers was not only able to move herself much, but couldn't even blow away the enemy tanks? I just find it hilarious they did that. I guess she just got _winded_ quickly. I don't apologize. You know this show deserves the roast.
All-in-all; The episode ends the most anti-climatic way that a mediocre show with such high praise from outlets could. With a care bare stare rainbow beam. I honestly saw one screencap from this episode and called that. People I was debating over this show went from loud and obnoxiously defending it to deathly silent.
We know "Season 2" won't be any better. Many shows, Dreamworks included love to cut the season they're given in half to make it look like they are given more then they actually are. It's still Season 1, and I doubt Hasbro really wants to continue with this, considering there isn't even a toy line. A toy company not making merchandise for show. That's very telling.
*Mattel. Also they have been silent for the reboot. They've been mostly selling old toys and there's a Masters of the universe movie in production
@@Saltedroastedcaramel I think they are lowkey regretting the fact that they let Dreamworks have the rights to She-ra.
At least they know better that they should be nice original fans who has supported them and this franchise for years instesd of insulting them like the media has.
@@lurkerofthenight I wouldn't blame them; I don't want a Ghostbusters 2016 happened to me either
I'm still trying to figure out why, if your planet is at risk, you call on a batch of bratty, dysfunctional teens and pre-teens to save the day
Cuz powers?
I mean Sonic and his friends are kids and they save their planet from Eggman all the time without trouble.
*@MeannCat* Glimmer’s powers were useless, Bow has no powers, and the only one that really does have useful powers out of the three is She Ra. I would say neglected Spinerella and Netassa are more useful with their powers.
@@Im.Smaher You do have a point, but only because the people working on this show have no imagination nor experience in writing.
Bow was supposed to be into gadgets, even made a sound arrow. Why doesn't he have explosive arrows and electric arrows to use in big battles?
Glimmer can teleport, it is a useful power for more than just sneaking. She could be super good at fighting and using weaponry, so teleporting gives an advantage in battles as a way to dodge attacks.
Perfuma could make more than just garbage vines, maybe make a plant grow that gives off a dizzying gas to knock out Horde soldiers. [and yeah I know they have masks, but Catra and Scorpia don't so it'd help a bit]
With a show like this the creators need a lot of imagination and have at least a basic ability on strategizing. I can't strategize well, but at least I know how to play both sides and think of how I would beat my enemy.
*@MeannCat* The reason Glimmer’s powers are ultimately useless is because it’s the only thing she knows how to do, not counting somehow knowing how to fight in just the season finale.
*@MeannCat* The reason Glimmer’s teleportation powers are ultimately useless is because it’s the only thing she knows how to do, not counting somehow knowing how to fight in just the season finale.
Natosa and spinnerella are exactly how you DON'T do diversity. having the characters just so you can say that "we have diversity" then not do anything with them for the entire season only to have them BARELY contribute at the end. They don't need to be the main characters just give us a reason to like them or remember they exist. i hope thy learn from this and try to build there characters up more in season 2 because this was honestly pritty disappointing
Keep in mind, they had this second season secured from before production even started "Season" is a very loose term when dealing with a Netflix serial since they just buy a number of episodes and portion it out. So they most likely already have the core scenario extending to episode 26 already mostly planned out.
That being said, they marketed Netossa and Spinnerella way too hard in the prelaunch promotionals and made them look like a much bigger deal than they actually were for the start of the series. In the end of the day, they effectively debuted in this episode since a single sight gag with them in the 3rd or so episode is not a sufficient introduction when they have no lines until 10 episodes later. If I had to wager a shot in the dark guess- they were pushed to hard for the lesbian diversity points (since their marketing heavily relied on representation over everything else) in addition to Stevenson herself voicing Spinnerella. The former reason ends up being pretty moot when they've also said in interviews literally everyone in the cast is gay unless stated otherwise.
The creators brag about this show having a lesbian couple, only to have said lesbian couple speak very few lines, have a minute or two of screen time, and be treated as a joke by the main characters. I just don’t get why anyone at all likes this show, because the people behind it have put as little effort into it as possible.
Why do people like this? Simple answer MUH REPRESANTATION
right we had better representation before people cared about it
Another one!? This world iether want to be suicide or out entire planet turns into demolition man!(im not joking!) Seriously iether we get show that trying to be like the opening sequence of beetle juice on LSD! Or lesbians and gays! Seriously the stuff they make for toddlers or kindergardeners is better than any other cartoon today,the only descent disney show today is Lion Guard!
I love how you committed this and you avatar is the grumpy care bear 🤣🤣
Multifandom.edits21 0 His little grimace sums up how I feel about this awful show, that’s for sure!
It's crazy how unlikeable the protagonists of the show are.
I agree
100%
Wait you mean this isn't Captain Marvel?
It's because they reflect bits of the makers who were unlikeable to begin with.
Hannibal Rasberry admittedly Catra is the best character in the show due to more screen time and personality .
No explanation for anything that happens. And no, this is not empowering girls and women. This teaches them to whine.
What’s funny is that in an average viewers’ eye,these mistakes and inconsistencies are brushed off. But when it’s in a animator/artist and writers, these flaws to them is like catching a basketball but you’re on the other side of the basketball, shooting it nowhere near the hoop and missing completely.
Anyway, thank you girls for reviewing this hot mess of a major disappointment, you can rest......until April.
I honestly got straight up pissed at Bo's reaction to Nettossa and Spinnerella showed up
That "boom, nets" line made me cringe
@@luckybeast9747 Yeah I have seen better self depricating humor.
@21st it was more of a irritation to pissed off and then disappointment and pissed after Catra lost
You were expecting something better? You poor, poor deluded fool. You have my sincere sympathies.
@@Slitheringpeanut Oh no I didn't expect it to be better; in fact I watched reviews before watching for myself. I was still disappointed.
Your title is spot on. I felt nothing, which was actually an improvement over some episodes.
Thanks for taking the hit and reviewing this show. I'll be here if you nice ladies think you are able to survive season 2.
Classic She Ra Will always be the best.
I'm honestly more disappointed than I am angry. Even though I knew that I'd get something terrible when I decided to watch it, part of me wishes that this series was good. It had the potential to be a great reboot, but because it's made by SJW assholes who only care about pushing an agenda than telling a good story, it is not. For all this series does wrong, I do see a good series buried in here. If I was to direct this reboot, I'd focus more on the relationship between Adora and Catra and how they grew from loving each other at the beginning, to mortal enemies. Adora is now in the company of people who care about her, but in order to achieve this, she had to lose that one person she cares the most about. Where's Catra is surrounded by people who care about her as well, but she reject their comfort and support, and only accepts it from Adora or Hordak, whom she starts to see as a father figure out of desperation, who has a bad influence on her. It may not be the most original, but it's better than the crap we actually got.
Ironically, that's what they went for with the next seasons.
they were just bad writers and with the social justice warriors behind what probably was going to be poorly written anyway despite all great ideas and potential just came out even worse... There were tons of things that deserved so much better, tons of interesting themes that could have been explored but unfortunately they did not... It felt like the writers and Noel were all fighting between themselves as everyone tried to push what they think is the best ignoring the others.
Personally i think the show deserves admiration for being able to offending and getting criticism for so many differnet things from so many different people with different values. Some say it is about morals, some claim they pissed off even the gays with their loose "representation", some like me hate the writing and cinematography etc, some talk about disrespect towards the original source, others complain for the art style or animation quality... somehow this was a disaster in the eyes of all audiences.
Imagine if competent writers wrote this series...
they did straighty
Here's how'd I'd write it;
Hordak commands Entrapta to build him robot troopers that are more durable than his flesh and blood ones. Entrapta says
she needs a stronger power source to power them up. Hordak, realizing that Shadow Weaver, the main person who HE ordered to bring back Adora, failed all her missions, kills her and uses the giant crystal(I forgot the name of it, sorry) to power up all his new soldiers. He also had a specialized mech for himself(we'll call it Hordebot Alpha), but Catra, wanting her battle with Adora to be personal, steals it and takes off with the rest of the mech troopers.
Cut to She-Ra and the Sparkle Crew getting wrecked by these new troops. Bow's arrows are nothing but paintballs as he gets hit with an uppercut knocking him to the ground. Glimmer's teleporting becomes useless as the reflexes of the troopers are superior enough to overpower her. And then here comes Catra, coming in with Hordebot Alpha. Feeling nothing but rage after the countless amounts of times she's tried to persuade her to rejoin Hordak, only has one objective: kill She-Ra.
After learning about the She-Ra inheritance, Adora storms into battle, a giant amongst ants, tearing through the troopers like a hot knife through butter. With the mindset to destroy all Horde enforcements clouding up her mind, she runs up to Hordebot Alpha and slices it in half effortlessly. Cut to a still of She-Ra slashing through the mech(like those stills animes used to do). Through the wreckage, She-Ra sees the body of Catra lying unconscious. She turns back into Adora to check up on her fallen friend, only to have her rise up and slash at her with her claws. "Why did you do this? You could've prevented this! Remember the times where we laughed at the princesses and their flashy clothes? Where did the love go, Adora? Do you WANT to be the reason Brightmoon falls?"
"I know where I stand. And I'm not going anywhere...old friend."
Knowing that her words won't move Adora, Catra runs away, with her tail literally between her legs. Then Adora checks up on her friends to see if they're okay. They all celebrate after successfully driving off the Horde. The camera then pans out to reveal Hordak atop a mountain, looking at Castle Brightmoon from afar. "So, my greatest soldier became the strongest being on this pathetic space rock? It doesn't matter. Friends come and go, but the Horde will last forever..."
Let me know what you guys think!
I was with you up to when She-Ra easily beat Catra in Hordebot Alpha. Maybe even when she storms into battle. This version of Adora has no idea how to use She-Ra's powers. However, the second episode showed that She-Ra can have this mode where it's more like the Avatar State and does stuff outside of Adora's control. I think that should be what takes over at the minute when everyone is backed against the wall by these new troopers and fancy new Hordebot. So she starts wrecking everyone and turning the tide of battle. But then Adora snaps out of the trance when she realizes that Hordebot Alpha is being piloted by Catra, whom she rescues from it before it ultimately blows up. She's fully apologetic to Catra, but Catra isn't having it, being completely unaware that She-Ra was in control and not adora. This makes Catra double down on her idea that they are no longer friends and completely unsalvageable. Then Catra uses some distant explosion as a distraction to escape. Hordak didn't really care about Adora nor She-Ra, so he wouldn't really comment on it.
1. Netossa and spinnerella. Chekov's lesbian couple. This is why diversity isn't a selling point for a series. Their flagship thesis, set aside, literally chekov's. And on spinnerella, the new method of using her abilities is why the fat jokes were precognitive. The creator played DND, she knows how magic works, but she played a warlock so verbal components are ignored.
2. I get bow's reaction, but not for the reason you would think. Bow always been the odd man out. Everytime he suggested something, tactical or otherwise, was literally laughed at for suggesting something because of the lipstick lesbian couple. Now an actual lesbian couple showed up, he probably would have been arrested post battle on average, summary execution would be my bet.
3. When I heard about the rainbow attack, I rolled my eyes. It was described as a angry lesbian care bear stare, and I agree. The power of gay to compel the straight away! I told my gay friends about it, 3 out of 5 said really?! My artist friend drew a angry lesbian care bear, because that's basically the real premise of the series. And the last friend wasn't sure if he should facepalm or Neal Patrick Harris joke.
This
Your heterosexuality is disgusting and I must compel you with my angry gay care bear stare! Be gone straighty!
Yeah, something tells me the writers didn't have an outline for...anything.
It seriously looks like every episode was done in the first draft.
TheSouloftheDragon They were too busy pushing their agenda, patting themselves on the back & trashing the original & its fans to actually worry about the storyline.
Are yall still complaining after the other four seasons came out? Now you got what you want soooooo-
Somewhere on the internet there has to be an 'Adora blames herself' meme.
Just came across it on tumblr. Do you want the link?
@@SariaRamia I'd actually really love the link please and thank you 😂
Spinerella's face absolutely does not match her body. If Noelle Stephenson, or anyone else on this show, ever took an actual art course, then clearly no lessons were actually learned.
Her body is very off too
LittleSweetHeart141 Right. She wears a skin tight outfit, yet she has no lumps, bumps or fat rolls. Same with Glimmer & Octavia. If you're gonna insist on having overweight characters, you should at least draw them anatomically correctly.
@@Hodaris_Darlin What's sad is that she did graduated from an art institute in Maryland
How does the Horde not have an air force or air corps of any kind? They have skiffs that can fly like speeders in Star Wars, we see Catra and Scorpia fly off in what looks like a spaceship, and yet the Horde hasn't produced squadrons of bombers, dive-bombers, fighters, escorts, etc to use against Brightmoon? If you control the sky, you can control the battlefield. Do they not have enough pilots? Did they run out of pilots like the Luftwaffe did in World War II? No wonder the Horde sucks at warfare.
The show was honestly a disaster from the start to the finish - what was meant to be empowering shows entirely the opposite, 'capable female leaders,' making reckless choices and downright questionable at best - moments of development are quickly backpedalled in the favour of the next humorous point. A show can work with humour, case and point in Avatar, but the growth felt superficial and didn't just feel genuine? It was either rushed or squashed in, only, not to matter an episode later.
I did actually like Glimmer, and if her character was better written, I would have enjoyed her a lot more. I did like her, I honestly did and I liked her re-design, but in Princess Prom, I wished she focused more on the rebellion, rather than 'friendship problems,' but meh. Empowering females didn't care about their Kingdom, purposefully endangered their Kingdom or were treated as nothing - just what is empowering about that? Inclusive characters were treated as nothing in itself, wasted space and air.
The Horde seemed more befitting of a Saturday Cheesy Special - the seriousness and some of the tension just didn't hit me; considering what we saw already. Catra is an interesting character and a dynamic that is good, but I wished she wasn't rewarded almost every other episode. I wish she had her own success that merited what she got; not plot armour.
She-Ra and the Princess of Powers is honestly a flat three to me, some of the ideas and character designs were nice, but too many errors, opposite to what they were trying to achieve and they should have left the name She-Ra out of this.
I wish we got to learn more about the lesbian couple (Netossa and Spinnerella).I wanted to see what their kingdom looked like,how they were as rulers, how they both become a couple, their personalities and etc.
You did it. You finished this madness.
If it was its own original IP, its passable. But the fact that it used an existing IP and shat at the fans who liked the original just made it unforgivable. They even went as far as insulting the original VAs and all the effort put by the original She-Ra staff into the original show. That's just not right.
I feel like an alternate title for this season could be "Could have been handled better."
A predictable ending for a painfully predictable show. This had to be the most corporate processed show I have ever seen. Thanks for enduring this for us ladies. God help you in the second season.
I actually find Bo's disappointement and the fact he doesnt know what they do amusing. Since it can be taken in another way, as in you dont know what they do overall, like they just show up to the meetings but never say or do anything. I'm pretty sure that you can just edit them out and nothing will change. I actually forgot they existed when I saw that episode.
Also for the rest of the episode. It is stupid to put the world in a eternal enormus caos since it will make things harder when you conquer it. Actually covering the world in darkness wasnt part of the initial plan. It will be funny if Hordak just calls over to Catra and say that their little stunt just costed them a intire army division
My biggest issue is the princesses just appearing. Last we saw they were all 'we're weak together' and turtling in their own kingdoms then just 'we're here to fight together!' with no inbetween. Like five seconds of showing them watching Adora and them getting tossed around, was that really too hard? It makes what little emotional impact the scene with them splitting up then returning feel worthless.
Yeah missed opportunities abound
Should've showed why Adora was capable enough to be a Horde Force Captain than Catra instead *in her most powerful form* she gets beat
Frosta doesn't apologize not even in a tsundere way which could be tolerable
Rainbow finish calls into question if we can just continue doing that past this point
Hordak rewards by failure than success, shadow weaver gone which is dumb
Catra fails but takes no consequence to it
Entrapra could've lost her country but shows no care to it
Could go on but it's horrible as a series, a reboot, a reimagining, and it's own thing
This is not She-Ra. This a bad Avatar: The Lastbender genderswap fanfic. Bow looks like Sokka, Adora/She-Ra looks like Aang with a blonde wig.
Can someone please re-write this show? Like, an alternate universe fanfic or something? I feel like under the right writer it could actually be good.
Have the battles be big and epic, change it so that it really is She-Ra's fault so she has a reason to blame herself, have the Horde be intimidating etc.
Yes! If somebody does this, send me a link
I can do it.
Warning: I won't do any LGBT shipping.
@@AnimeArchaeologist That's fine😊
@ZaqueHunzahua If I'm gonna do it, imagine a mix between She-Ra and the political writings in Arslan Senki.
we could but its not worth the effort at this point
A lackluster ending to a lackluster season.
And given that the current series of MLP isn't even the first to do the whole 'DEFEAT THE BADDIE WITH RAINBOWS!!11' shit, can it just be said that nothing in this show is revolutionary, like....at all? Getting up to this point in the series, the whole thing has been a mediocre waste of time and energy with far too much ego behind it for its own good. Had Noelle and her crew just been lax about it, not bringing up 'toxic masculinity' or being disrespectful asshole to both older fans and the creators of the original show, I would have been a lot more patient with them. I wouldn't let it be an excuse for the show being so slowly paced but I would have at least a lot more open about the show but they ruined that moment themselves by acting like jackasses.
She-Ra is yet another reboot that needs to go down on how not to do it; how not to treat the original source, how not to create your own timeline for the reboot and how not to treat fans, whether they be older fans or new ones. The whole series just leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I'm far more bothered at the pretentiousness of Noelle n crew than the show sucking as a whole and I'll tell you why.
Noelle and a lot of current animators in her group are being held not only in high regard but are being set up as the standard. This should be a worrying sign for a lot of fledgling animators who actually care because shows like She-Ra are setting the bar incredibly low. Shows like She-Ra and other bad reboots and even new IPs are setting a mindset that you don't have to try at all. You don't have to world build, you don't have to develop your characters and so on. All you have to do is project yourself and how important YOU, or better yet your LABELS, are in order to get attention and praise. Most of the praise from this show is always aimed at how 'diverse' it is when for any well-adjusted weeb or even fans of older series know that there is not one thing that this reboot does that has broken ANY grounds at all.
Gay characters? Even in US shows? In a POSITIVE light? Been done before.
Fat characters that aren't jokes? Been done before.
Black characters? Been done before.
Female lead? It's a reboot of a female lead series so IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE.
Hell, even behind the scenes there is nothing ground breaking about this series so in the end, the show is not just mediocre, it's mediocre without a goal all the while pretending that it has done something. Hell, even as sick as people are with the fan art, it's not even new in shipping. Tumblr was already flooded with underage lesbian porn fanart before this shit arrived. (whomp whoooomp)
I have a feeling that one the show is over and time has passed people won't talk about Nu-Ra. It just doesn't have the lasting touch as the original show and for all it tries to do to appease a crowd that no one wants, I can beat that in five years those same people will find something 'problematic' about this whole series, making all attempt to draw this crowd in completely pointless.
After watching a few more of your videos I took a “If they can sit through this Meh Fest, I can too!” And to be honest I think I finally realized the whole point of this show.
It just a show that lives for moments of empowering women, minorities, and LGBT. That’s not a bad thing, it’s not a good thing, it’s just a thing. That said cause of it if you are looking for some deep story about rebels fighting and evil power....yeah....we are just gonna get moments of things being pushed. It’s not bad or good, just boring if you where wanting anything close to old She-ra.
People will start to not like it.
Steven Universe had a lot of similar issues along with relying on diversity and anime references.
A lot of people including hardcore fans have started to drop it. Only reason a lot still follow it is basically to just complete it since they've already invested so much time into it...it's like a completionist with gamers, they just keep going.
Mjtanner + savvy viewers: What about plot, characterization, loose points? Writers: you can ship them all ***exits in Tuxedo Mask*** (side note: I'm not atacking shippers, the writers could have fixed the above & still had a shippable show)
$19.95
And it did...
The creator claimed this show is supposed to "empower women", but it fails to do just that. I felt more insulted by this show than anything else. It's an assult on your intelligence and your eyes.
If the creator and writers had focused on writing interesting and likeable female characters, as well as a decent story, instead of bragging about how much "gurl power" their show has, it might have been a decent cartoon.
Isn't wind/air an element?
Why does Spinnerella have her powers then?
Edit: so much for weakened elemental powers?
Internal consistency has never been a focus of this series.
The only reason Netossa and Spinerella was included in this final episode was to cram it down the viewers throat that they're lesbians (no, seriously - throughout the entire episode; they're more intimate with each other than they had been in previous episode. i.e. - linking their arms together, using pet names, always being ridiculously close to one another).
Ain;t nothing wrong with lesbians; but why does it need to be so blatant?
Because people that have never been in a relationship wrote this one.
MeannCat I mean isn’t technically Noelle married ?
I don’t think Entrapta is “evil.” She just seems like one of those eccentric scientists that always focus on if they can do something stupid and dangerous and never stopping to ask if they should.
20:29 Nice scene that Angella wraps her wings around them...but I guess they can only remember one set of wings at a time? Swift Wind's wings appear to be missing.
Shows like this made me go back to watching anime.
Oh hell yeah there are! From the last month alone, I could list at least 6 anime that beat this "series" 100 - 0
@@CaffeineDeprivation well, I probably could list any anime I know.
But not from last month.
Started rewatching one piece. I'm not sure if this decision was great or a horrible mistake.
I agree so much, it would have been much better if they lost the fight and had to flee. They could have had the princesses come save glimmers family and the crew. They could have been refugees trying to rebuild their forces. I really felt they didnt give me a reason to watch season 2 . It left me saying meh I'm not invested. Oh an I bet her hair is advanced technology mixed with magic.
Maybe someone here can explain... The Princesses apparently get their power from the Runestones right...but how does that work exactly? Why is it that Glimmer seems to be the only one who has to "recharge" her powers? None of the others ever seem to "run out" of magic... Also the Queen...does she recharge? Does it power her wings maybe? So many questions...
So, who thinks Netflix' She-Ra show runner has a furry fetish and just likes hot cat girls?
Sonic Rose Noelle Stephenson Twitter will tell you a lot
I thought they said that Adora/She-Ra and the other main characters were warriors first and foremost.
Since when did they decided to do a 180° and make them a bunch of bratty teens whose main concerns are parties and going to prom!
@The Ineffable Shipper Then the writers shouldn't have claimed that they were warriors, as they are clearly not warriors based on what they're describing.
If they really are warriors and heroes, they should have clearly been depicted prioritizing victory, the safety of their citizens and doing the right thing over that of partying, even if they're teens.
@The Ineffable Shipper Nope, they're stereotypical bratty teens. That's what Noelle Stevenson and her crew of woke feminist have turned them into, a bunch of Flanderized stereotypes.
@The Ineffable Shipper Gee Ya don't say. And this is why the whole world is screwed up.
And don't try and change the subject by bringing up pronouns. I know how this BS works. Also there have been many interviews of Noelle Stevenson where she was called she and her by interviewers without incident. 🙄
So yeah, don't try to Bullshit with me!
The thing that bothers me most about the show is the art style. It just doesn't look like anime. It looks like they traced a how to draw Anime book. *Edit:* I figured out why they didn't nail the anime look. In anime the backgrounds and props are always hyper realistic here they aren't, these artists always pick the most unnatural colors possible, real anime has more cultural references to Japan, Anime has more fanservice.
the art style is fine, the drawing is a mess.
no shade other than in the neck and in the nose bridge area, and that shade is awful because they paint it at all times.
the shade made it manacing, just look at the pic when they hugging together (not from this episode), adora and bow are like villain.
no wrinkle in their clothes whatsoever. sometime detail in brest-armpit area, breast or knee area is void.
the background sometime detail sometime simple, but the character always pop from the backgroud because they lack details.
this is a cherry pick from me:
she-ra looks like a boy.
no breast, broad shoulder, muscular arm, thick eyebrown.
even japan make muscular woman looks like a woman not a man.
my students can make better drawing than this.
it isn’t a fucking anime- GURL ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANIME
@@LR-jb6zn you draw it better then
Speaking of shows that are praised only for representation, I'm very curious about your thoughts on Steven Universe.
I second that man!
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Well, i think the earlier seasons were better. As the home world plot progressed things got bog down also the creators adding more subplots while trying to tie everything together. ... Tho I'm done with the show, if there's another season I'm not watching.
Gotta say, even though I despise Steven Universe (stopped watching aeound season 2 because I got too annoyed at the main characters, Peridot is the only character I like now), it's vastly better than She-Ra because it does at least have an interesting setting and tries to tell a good story. The characters' sexualities are not their main selling point, but rather their backstories is what keeps them interesting.
This was, quite possibly, the absolute worst finale to a show I have ever seen, and I didn't even watch it!
Everything that happens in this episode, *everything,* is so poorly constructed that it hurts. There is no doubt in my mind that this whole "season 2" thing is just season 1 split into two parts, because there is no way in hell this show is coming back based on merit.
I have to ask, what made this better than the original? There is no character development, barely any plot, and a veritable sea of bad animation. I swear, I could write a book on everything that is wrong with this series, and more than half of it would cover just this finale. This show really did have potential. There were a lot of good ideas, but they are painfully underutilized.
I highly doubt season 2 is going to be any better, and I have a feeling that Netflix won't be making a season 3, and if it is, it is purely from the fact that Netflix, as a company, has money to blow.
All in all, this episode was terrible, and when season 2 comes out, I pray it's better, but I'm quite sure it won't be.
Summary of this series. All of the characters are stereotypical teens heroes and the story is make of plot connivence and tropes.
I feel like people like catra is favorited because she’s not an annoying trope/stereotype
catra also seems to be a character. however shes a bit mary sue with how shes just handed upgrades for losing...
force captain
hordaks fave
SECOND IN COMMAND?
The_Knosferatu Exactly who’s the main character here catra or adora because the plot seems to favor catra
An underwhelming end of an underwhelming series! Nothing to see here people, move along, move along!
This whole show can be sum up to Shipping.
Honestly majority of the people I follow on Twitter don’t even mention the world building or the plot .
They just care if the cat is going to go with the blonde Wonder Woman
lmao me 😂
I'm glad that you're She-ra free until April. My over dramatic imagination pictured you finishing & staggering out into the bright sun free from your burden.
Question... okay so at 12:41 She-Ra has new-ish armor I guess and I assume it was from Glimmer's armory? Did they just have upgrades for only Bow, Glimmer and She-Ra's basic outfits? Also that sword turning into shield thing is still not explained. Even the first time it just "happened" with no commands or any explaining of why...
Also I always figured She-Ra was nigh invulnerable to harm... how's she taking damage from a 15-year-old humanoid girl cat's claws? For that matter, that "armor" must be made of tissue paper...
i kind of liked the rainbow attack but i agree with frosta just coming out of no where and helping when she didn't want to be in the alliance to begin with she is just a glorified spoiled brat that just happens to be a princess, i think the end should have begin with the horde winning and then the next season could be about she-ra and the others getting back together while taking back some of the territory of the horde and maybe katra being bored after winning and seeing that winning was not all she wanted it to be until she-ra and the others fight back
That end with all princesses is definitely a Deus Ex Machina, mostly of them appear of nowhere without know the situation just for save the day.
13:51 Saving up all that "wind" for the finale I see...
She-Ra is most likely weakened because she lost her sword and she gets power from stones that are out sync. Lighthope probably wanted Glimmer to learn from her weakness and use her new power. But I maybe reading to much into glitching.
You guys are troopers. I would've never made it through this long. I enjoyed this commentary. I hope you guys continue with other shows
Catra is a Mythbuster, failure is always an option for them.
"Guys, you got defeated by a rainbow."
Oh, if only the cast could actually say in unison, "Taste the Rainbow, motherfuckers!" it would make it both hilarious and badass. Oh, if only, if only.
A lackluster final episode for a underwhelming overall lackluster series...
And about Entrapta, I kinda think they copied a character from "Sora Wo Kakeru Shoujo". The little sister of the main character (Akiha) has a living alien cap friend that she uses as a pair of extra limbs that do a lot of things like helping her or reach things that are far away from Akiha's little sis...
I wouldn't go that far, Entrapa's original design always had prehensile hair- Sora Wo Kakeru Shoujo also also far from the first to pull off that gimmick.
@@gtf234 Probably, but Sora Kake Girl was the first example I remembered after watching this character.
I think that adora blames herself for everything is because she is shera and shera is supposed to be powerful and heal, so shera is supposed to be able to protect everyone in adora's eyes. So I think that is why adora blames herself for everything when it actually was not her fault.
Great wrap up you two! Excited to see more stuff soon and looking forward to your reactions of the next season.
MLP and this show have two things in common:
1. Friendship is magic
2. The Care Bear stare fixes everything.
(Yes, I am that old.)
After the first couple of episodes I gave up any hope of a good finale. The worst thing is we get a second season. The best thing is we get a second season listening to you both critique the show.
Look forward to your other content.
I think I know why Netossa and Spinerella get very little screen time.
They're the carrot on a stick for the lesbian shippers to encourage them to keep watching the show.
That's what Adora and Catra are for though...really it's the entire cast- I swear somebody from the staff tweeted or said in an interview everyone is gay unless they explicitly state otherwise. Full disclosure I could be remembering that part wrong, but it sure does feel like it's accurate.
@@gtf234 no, you were correct. Noelle Stevenson tweeted that herself, because I remember someone on the Nu-Ra server posting it in a channel
@@gtf234 That sounds like the creator is queer-baiting.
Like, actually queer-baiting. She's pretty much saying "All these characters are gay FOR NOW until I say otherwise".
I don't mean to beat a dead Swiftwind but they could really do well to take the critique to heart
This show was disappointing on so many levels. I wanted to like the show, I really did, but when you talk a big game and you execute it poorly it’s not going to receive any kind of good credit.
The show runners made a lot of promises when marketing this “reboot” and followed with untrue criticism of the original. They promised representation and the finale just had us learn that there have been two gay characters this whole time, and every princess was incompetent at being a leader. So much for women empowerment in the late 2010s. And then the whole thing with consent that you’ve mentioned multiple times.
Overall, I think this She-Ra is terrible. But then again, this was just the first season, which means there’s a 50/50 chance it could get worse like Supergirl or it could get better from building off of the mistakes that were made. I love this series you two have made. You two did great and I can’t wait to for your next video. ❤️
So yeah this indeed fact the catra show.Its so weird seeing the villain get more development than the hero cast.Also I wouldnt be surprised if Entraptas kingdom was flourishing now that shes gone.
Hey i have an Idea how to make this she-ra reboot awesome :
Take the scrip from the old show but use the reboot design and it will be a better story with "diversity" and it will show much more implication in the story that what we saw till now
How are we supposed to care about the lesbian relationship when the only line they get is the most forced thing ever. Its just impossible to care about them
I know I sound like a broken record when saying this, BUUUUUUUUUTTTT.... Read the 2012 Nasters of the Universe Comic by DC. It’s fun, exciting, great art, and has a really interesting version of Adora. It starts of with her conquering Brightmoon and either killing or enslaving the inhabitants. On top of that you get a Rapunzel Mother Gothel relationship with her and Shadoweaver. Adora is constantly afflicted by visions of her past and what she will become, and shadoweaver constantly mindwipes her, with it working less and less every time.
Eternian War was edgy as fuck. And it still is better than what this tried to do. They actually created cool ideas and concepts that really worked. Adora's entire journey was just sad and fucked up. Her friendship to Teela was great.
While I admit that the writers did take the "Power of Friendship Saves the Day" routine in a more creative direction, it still looks like a total Deus Ex Machina.
Really, this show is just riddled Mediocrity
They had 9 episode to help develop Netossa and Spinnerella and include them in as major members of the Rebellion, and now they only get shown doing something?
It was quite a jorney to hear your points, and i can concur that things could have been done a lot lot better, and i say this even if i fell in love with the show and am hyped for the rest of the seasons, me and many others are surely hoping all the flaws get ironed out as they dont have to establish a fanbase anymore and can focus now on proper world building and story progression.
I doubt I'll watch season 2.
Entrapta's hair is not magic, it's tech. Smart cybernetic nanotube monofilaments. Plus she needs a reinforced metal skull and spine (Borg Queen style) to not snap her neck while hair-vaulting Bionic Commando style while carrying another person. As she did with Bow in System Failure.
So she's a kind of a cyborg?
@@lavenderplace8591 Yeah, why not. It's a fan theory but makes sense. Since the First Ones tech is also magitech ("any technology advanced enough is indistinguishable from magic").
This was a weird series, it has so many subplots that it fails amazingly in wrapping things up; this is an example of a disconnect between writers, what I'm thinking is that Noelle Stevenson only worked full time in 3 episodes during season 1, the first 2 chapters and then the season finally, the she only "supervised".
Honestly, for all the talk that their show is supposed to be superior to the original 1980's version, it seems that they have no problems stooping to levels of cheesy clichés, that they could only get away with if it actually was the 1980's or at the least the early 1990's.
Come to think of it I don't even recall any of the old She-Ra series's episodes having done this.
Get ready for Dragon Prince season 2
O God no...its not as terrible as she ra an at least its original but...god... no
after watching 2 episode of the old She-Ra and a few wikia articles later.
yes, this netflix reebot is all over the place and the writer just changes every character, story, plot, etc to be "relevant"
12:42 I didn't even notice this until I re-watched the change...but why is this new outfit part of her transformation now? Like a last second sparkle change? At first I thought she got it from the armory... Did she get an upgrade? Was this to sneak in a new design? Why did this happen? Did new armor magically appear on Swift Wind too? WTH?
I'm pretty sure that the creators only made them a lesbian couple just to get goodie points.
Honestly, I was fin with she ra's new desighn, but after seing the guard 7:12 they could have done so much better. Seriously if she ra looked lik that it would be the coolest thing ever
I was solidly done with the atrociously animated talking alicorn.
Like holy retinas why did it look so bad. Also the out of nowhere talking part... I know the horse originally talked but it literally came at random.
It's kinda dumb how she sees her own power as a separate entity. You don't see Danny Phantom doing that.
why were the elemental princesses in their full power ? i thought they were supposed to be disconnected from their stones or at least having any kind of trouble with the connection as entrapta said and when they showed up the moon stone was weakened so their powers were supposed to be unstable or weak or anything, but they have their full power ?
i thought they would've problems like the one that glimmer has cuz they said that her powers were messed up because her connection to her stone was messed up ( i think they did, i don't care much about this show and my memory is shit )
You did it MJ!! You completed the Mission.... until next Season.....
So uh... why aren't the boys Sea Hawk & Bow colored up? 19:46
I thought it was because they’re not princesses
am i the only one who is wondering why did the sword has a friendship rainbow power? like it wasnt literaly in the privius episode where adora is suppost to leave all earth binds begine?, why does that power exist? if she is suppost to be fucking alone!, consistency and continuity what do this words mean? so much vocals confuse me!.
btw that moment where a show about colorful horse (and actual kid show) can handle better clifhangers, end season episode and power of colorful friendship better than you.....
I hate how some shows rely solely on LGBTQ promotion and Feminism. That's not what makes a show worth while, it's the writing.
By tumblr for tumblr
The only place I've seen fanart for this show is on Tumblr.
...and those fanart look better than the actual show.
After seeing the image of Nettles and Spinnerella locking arm I cringe so hard realizing this is going to be their characters in season 2.
Adora would take it as her fualt becuase she has a hero complex so everything is her fualt no matter what. Thats how Adoras mind works.
Everytime I scrub on the timeline, I stop on a hug. WHAT. I bet a hug drinking game with this show is going to be deadly.
That design is still horrible.
There is no direction in the first season of She-Ra there