Hi guys. I tried to turn off the air cooling in the video as much as possible so that the milling sound could be heard. While editing the video, I noticed that my colleague Andrej was fooling around behind me, so I left it in the video 🙂
Realizaba trabajos de este tipo durante 15 años, inyeccion de plástico y metales. A la hora de cobrar mi salario, recibía igual que los torneros.... Pues me volví tornero, ya duermo tranquilo..!!! 😌😌😌😌
Сегодня испытал две новые пресформы литьём алюминия под давлением, у одной толкатели затрещали на первой же прессовке, а на третей прессовке совсем обломился один толкатель и на поверхности появились трещины, при испытании второй пресформы тоже на поверхности появились трещины возле прессостатка. Впервые за 20 лет работы такое увидел
Hello! is there any chance of you putting the surface speed along with the rpm on the tool information! its all very useful but i have to go through and pause at each fram to work it out :) thankyou for the videos
Love it. Is that a Renishaw RMP60 probe you're using? We've gone from machining big hard metal pieces in our place to almost exclusively 7050 Aluminium. Biggest piece is 3.2 tons and ends up as an 80kg finished part
Thanks for showing, but as far as the striking of the workpiece you need to work on the safety! No edge protection on both chain and rope. Yes, even life-threatening steel on steel results in a risk of slipping for the part and so fast you can not jump in Save
You can mill steel without coolant. It's better for inserts because they don't receive thermal shock. They stay warm/hot all the time instead of getting hot and cooling down by every rotation.
What he means is that it took about 30 minutes for an existing program to download to his machine. These type parts are forming or mold dies from some type of large company. Probably automotive. Their programs for these parts are proprietary information so the actual program is coded by the customer. The company paying to have this part made. The cnc operator, not a machinist, downloads this program to run the parts. Then the program is deleted from the cnc equipment. This guy simply downloads the program and sets up the machine with the proper tools then sits and plays Call of Duty all day while it runs. Just think of all the old cars from the ‘50s that had all the cool lines on em. A real machinist had to make the forming dies for those car fenders and hoods on a manual machine. Now those guys were real machinist.
@@martinswiney2192 "A real machinist had to make the forming dies for those car fenders and hoods on a manual machine." 😂If you worked like that today, you wouldn't earn any money. The technology is outdated, which invalidates your statement... :P. And the CNC-Operator/Machnist not only download the finished programm. You receive the finished CAD model from the customer. You then have to generate your milling strategies in the CAM system. This requires a lot of knowledge...
Jak řešíte vykreslování mezi operacema ? Když programuji nějaké vetší tvarové plochy právě rychloposuvovkama (nemá to rádo torusové frezy při vypočítávání polotovaru) a navazuji hrubovacími operacemi na sebe takže musím vykreslovat odběr a CAM těžce nestíhá tady jste to museli nějak řešit předpokládam
Ahoj. Keď hrubujeme nevykreslujeme nič. Dáme v každom hrubovacom programe vypočítať zbytkový mat.a ďalšia fréza vie kde už nemá ísť. Samozrejme ten CAM počíta aj z vyložením držiaka.
@@CncFrezar dělám v Topsolid a tam když vyhrubuju řekněme prvních 50 mm z nějaké desky tak pokud to nedám vykreslit odebrany material tak další hrubovačka jede jako by první neodebrala nic tzn ve vzduchu .. a když to dam u první vykreslit tak že mi z toho PC podělá tam máte něco jako "nevykreslit ale spočitat zbytek materialu" ?
@@Tops872 Napr. Dám vyhrubovať 40tkou frézou a obmedzím hĺbku aby hrubovala len do hlbky 30mm.Mám možnosť aktualizovať materiál alebo neaktualizovať. Keď dám aktualizovať tak ďalšia mensia fréza napriklad 20tka bude do hlbky 30 mmm len odoberať zbytky napríklad zmenšovať rádiusy a od hlbky 30 mm bude dalej pokračovať v plnom hrubovaní.
@@Crabneedspony i use 0,01mm and 1° even if i use 0,2mm and 15° i have the same problem. Every time I render even a simple 3D machining, topsolid crashes after 3-5 min.
It's all a question of how long it will take. A manual operator can obviously get the cutting head to each point the CNC machine moves it. But it will take a lot longer. And cost a lot more.
I want face 160 mm depth I have 40 mm apmt cutter with 4 insert..but when facing starting in the machine..tool had been vibrate.. depth of cut only .5 mm and feed is 800 and rpm 1100 ..any solution?
@@CncFrezar But if they used water from the beginning of the roughing, there wouldn't be such a thermal shock, why don't they use water from the beginning? pero si usaran agua desde el inicio del desbaste, no existiria tal choque termico, porque no utilizan agua desde el inicio?
@@CncFrezar to chapu ,kazdopadne narocne obrabeni bylo kdyzme na 130 horizontku ktera mela 35 tun na stredu narvali 40tunovej pojezd pro portal do boeingu ;D to kdyz se tocil stul tak se klepala cela hala jak to bylo pretizene ;D
Hi guys. I tried to turn off the air cooling in the video as much as possible so that the milling sound could be heard. While editing the video, I noticed that my colleague Andrej was fooling around behind me, so I left it in the video 🙂
best youtube channel and best skill. Do you CAD the Mold Parts yourself or the customers? because in most cases its a lot of cad work to get a mold
Thank you. CAD is supplied by customers
Máte dobrú prácu. Zapnete stroj, idete na pivo, vrátite sa o deň neskôr a práca je hotová.
wow very rare someone else that uses cimatron!! im a programmer in a mold shop and we use it i like it a lot
中国用的还是蛮多的
What a nice job, we got payed for doing our hobby! Win win. 🏆
Peter from South Africa you doing super nice tooling ,you need to get your own injection moulding machines,keep up the good work
God bless
As much as the machining is impressive as in itself, the setup and indexing is even more.
Lindo trabalho parabéns este é um grande profissional
bem obrigado
You know you have a massive machine when you can walk trough the table while setting up that massive stock 😂
Realizaba trabajos de este tipo durante 15 años, inyeccion de plástico y metales. A la hora de cobrar mi salario, recibía igual que los torneros....
Pues me volví tornero, ya duermo tranquilo..!!!
😌😌😌😌
Primero trabajé como tornero durante 14 años, ahora trabajo como fresadora durante 15 años.
very good job CncFrezar
I work in a mold shop to I do side work running a horizontal mill cnc its really fun and satisfying work
Сегодня испытал две новые пресформы литьём алюминия под давлением, у одной толкатели затрещали на первой же прессовке, а на третей прессовке совсем обломился один толкатель и на поверхности появились трещины, при испытании второй пресформы тоже на поверхности появились трещины возле прессостатка. Впервые за 20 лет работы такое увидел
Вероятно ошибка конструктора
You should try to say "Boom!" more in the videos. 😂
Congratulations on the very good video, what steel is this friend? It is not hardened with the cutter at this speed?
Hi. It is a tool steel. It is written at the beginning of the video. It was just roughing it so it doesn't matter.
Hello! is there any chance of you putting the surface speed along with the rpm on the tool information! its all very useful but i have to go through and pause at each fram to work it out :) thankyou for the videos
3:12
What type of clamping devise did you use to hold this part? Your machining is very impressive!
thanks. We bought the clamps here: upinace.cz
Ждём продолжения.
Mesmerizing, thanks for sharing your work with us
Love it. Is that a Renishaw RMP60 probe you're using? We've gone from machining big hard metal pieces in our place to almost exclusively 7050 Aluminium. Biggest piece is 3.2 tons and ends up as an 80kg finished part
Yes, it is an RMP60 probe
What kind of clamps are you using to hold the part?
You have a lot of trust in the software. I got scared with clearsnve of er nut 😅
Great sir Im Indonesian
It's so nice 👍👍👍
Что в итоге получилось? Футляр для скрипки?
Amazing job !!!!
one question....why not coolant?
Thank you. It is cooled by air.
Nicely tuned speeds and feeds, sounds mint !
Thanks for showing, but as far as the striking of the workpiece you need to work on the safety! No edge protection on both chain and rope. Yes, even life-threatening steel on steel results in a risk of slipping for the part and so fast you can not jump in Save
Hi friend ! It's good and i guess that it is a aluminum casting mold, right ?🎉🎉
Great job!!!
Please tell me what is the approximate processing time for this form?
Good job
Hi, how many mm the cutter 16 Is out? 80 approximate? Is the cutter anti vibration?
The holder is extended to 85 mm. It is ordinary steel
@@CncFrezar thanks
Máte pěkně tuhou mašinu radost ta rychloposuvovka
Hi, what would be faster, roughing rhe side with a long stickout tool at the start or flipping the part and then roughing the top?
do Milling without coolant has some negative effect on the finishing? or it doesnt matter? sorry im new in this
It is cooled by air. Today's tools are built for air cooling.
Excellent work
Nice video👍
Ja ti dám nice. Nevieš po slovensky?😛
Does all the swarf get recycled? Or is it just wasted?
Yes, everything is recycled
Why is it smoking all the time? is there some oil leak, because pure steel shouldnt smoke like that, right?
Leaks on the spindle. That machine is a piece of junk
E muitas tecnologias 👍👍😎😎
Сколько вот на такую датель по кругу припуск перед термообработкой обычно хватает?
Если вы имеете в виду припуск на материал, то даем 4 мм
What kind of cycle time is that part? Also what type of finish requirement do you have to achieve
It's just roughing, so the finish doesn't matter. I can't talk about times.
@@CncFrezar no problem, do you make vidoes of the finishing or is that also not allowed?
Jaki czas obróbki zgrubnej tak ogólnie ? Ile razy zmienialiscie płytki ? ;D
Nie mogę mówić o czasie, ale przewracałam plastry co 3 godziny
@@CncFrezargu7b
Is that a stamping die for automotive application?
I don't know what it's for, but probably not.
Nice Works!
Is it better choice tool steel 1.2311 for injection mould rather than 1.2343.What is your expirience?
I don't know, we only use 1.2343
Пресс форма , класс !!!
Hello, please what’s the name or brand of your clam system to the machine table?
upinace.cz
@@CncFrezar thanks so much!!
what do you use for vises?
upinace.cz
Good job ! Awsome
Are you using dampened holders for the highfeed mills?
Only steel. If the holder is long, then carbide
0:41, you should be careful there are zombies in your shop
Buenas
Quizás,,, base inferior o superior de un molde de inyeccion
Saludos desde Norte España
yes
شكرا لقد ادعمتك في قناتك
نعم. مرحباً بك
Hi guys,
What are you using to hold down that cavity? where can i get some info on it.
Thanks
To vyzera ako mold na excentricky lis :)
Пуансон для рычага подвески?
Я бы сказал, но я не могу
@@CncFrezar вообщем это элемент пресс формы?
@@Karabas44 Да
for what ist that cnc-milled block?
it is a mold for aluminum
Why did you remove that strip of material? @1:50
It is used for centering from the other side
Sir I want to ask that why we don't use lubircation when milling the first layer of the workpiece?
You can mill steel without coolant. It's better for inserts because they don't receive thermal shock. They stay warm/hot all the time instead of getting hot and cooling down by every rotation.
insane! how long did this take to program?
Programming about 30 minutes, but milling about 2 days
@@CncFrezar Damn that's impressive! Would've taken me hours in Edgecam. Which CAM software do you use?
@@da9elb If you watched the video, you should know that.At the beginning of the video, I run the software. Its name is Cimatron.
What he means is that it took about 30 minutes for an existing program to download to his machine. These type parts are forming or mold dies from some type of large company. Probably automotive. Their programs for these parts are proprietary information so the actual program is coded by the customer. The company paying to have this part made. The cnc operator, not a machinist, downloads this program to run the parts. Then the program is deleted from the cnc equipment. This guy simply downloads the program and sets up the machine with the proper tools then sits and plays Call of Duty all day while it runs. Just think of all the old cars from the ‘50s that had all the cool lines on em. A real machinist had to make the forming dies for those car fenders and hoods on a manual machine. Now those guys were real machinist.
@@martinswiney2192 "A real machinist had to make the forming dies for those car fenders and hoods on a manual machine." 😂If you worked like that today, you wouldn't earn any money. The technology is outdated, which invalidates your statement... :P.
And the CNC-Operator/Machnist not only download the finished programm. You receive the finished CAD model from the customer. You then have to generate your milling strategies in the CAM system. This requires a lot of knowledge...
Great work!
I’d like to know the tool life of hi feed cutter.
Hi. About 3 hours at this cutting speed
Do you plan for warping due to Internal stress in the material when removing so much mass?
It's just roughing it, so it's cool
Use shims to check
The man is a character from a horror movie. 0:37 s The Last of Us.
horor movie 😁
Another swingarm? ? Ducati?
I can't talk about that🤐
Very strange looking part, is that some sort of casting mould? Certainly doesn't look mechanical on it's own.
Yes! Casting mould.
Bueno
Jak řešíte vykreslování mezi operacema ? Když programuji nějaké vetší tvarové plochy právě rychloposuvovkama (nemá to rádo torusové frezy při vypočítávání polotovaru) a navazuji hrubovacími operacemi na sebe takže musím vykreslovat odběr a CAM těžce nestíhá tady jste to museli nějak řešit předpokládam
Ahoj. Keď hrubujeme nevykreslujeme nič. Dáme v každom hrubovacom programe vypočítať zbytkový mat.a ďalšia fréza vie kde už nemá ísť. Samozrejme ten CAM počíta aj z vyložením držiaka.
@@CncFrezar dělám v Topsolid a tam když vyhrubuju řekněme prvních 50 mm z nějaké desky tak pokud to nedám vykreslit odebrany material tak další hrubovačka jede jako by první neodebrala nic tzn ve vzduchu .. a když to dam u první vykreslit tak že mi z toho PC podělá tam máte něco jako "nevykreslit ale spočitat zbytek materialu" ?
@@Tops872 Napr. Dám vyhrubovať 40tkou frézou a obmedzím hĺbku aby hrubovala len do hlbky 30mm.Mám možnosť aktualizovať materiál alebo neaktualizovať. Keď dám aktualizovať tak ďalšia mensia fréza napriklad 20tka bude do hlbky 30 mmm len odoberať zbytky napríklad zmenšovať rádiusy a od hlbky 30 mm bude dalej pokračovať v plnom hrubovaní.
Thanks for sharing, what is the unit you have shaped ?
@@Crabneedspony i use 0,01mm and 1° even if i use 0,2mm and 15° i have the same problem. Every time I render even a simple 3D machining, topsolid crashes after 3-5 min.
Is it possible for even the most skilled operator to do that manually?
Everything is possible.
It's all a question of how long it will take. A manual operator can obviously get the cutting head to each point the CNC machine moves it. But it will take a lot longer. And cost a lot more.
That's awesome
А разве СОЖ не нужна на таких станках? Видно что синяя стружка летит.
Да, охлаждающая жидкость тоже нужна, но не при таком типе фрезерования.
I want face 160 mm depth I have 40 mm apmt cutter with 4 insert..but when facing starting in the machine..tool had been vibrate.. depth of cut only .5 mm and feed is 800 and rpm 1100 ..any solution?
fellow machinist from india here. we are using local cutter bodies which tend to vibrate. try using heavy metal cutter bodies or carbide ones
А для чего интересно эта заготовка
What is it, a mold?
cnc professor
😀
When you see a machined part like this, try and visualise what it's negative would be, to make a decision on what it is
It is a mold into which aluminum is poured
Hello,i need info rpm at finishing
I have the feeling youtube randomly unsubscribed me from you
Sorry for youtube
hi ,what´s the name of the clamping sistem you are using
Upinace.cz
What machine you have?
UDM 2216 UCHINE
i like it
What type of work holding clamps are those?
upinace.cz
Why not coolant??
Yes. Air
@@CncFrezar Ooooooh, sorry!! Now all makes sense hahaha!!
what name ur side clamp ? thank
upinace.cz
@@CncFrezar how to buy that ?
Круто!
Waow
how come no chip conveyor?
He has why he shouldn't
@@CncFrezar why not?
Can you do crank case wave 125 for me please.
Why do they cool with air and not with water? ¿porque refrigeran con aire y no con agua?
No water is used for roughing! There would be a thermal shock and the blades would crack
@@CncFrezar But if they used water from the beginning of the roughing, there wouldn't be such a thermal shock, why don't they use water from the beginning? pero si usaran agua desde el inicio del desbaste, no existiria tal choque termico, porque no utilizan agua desde el inicio?
Spindle kw??
Klock wise💀 or I’m trippin
Money has no religion it itself a religion
Hard to believe that little block weighs 1.3 ton
Little?
@@Mechanarian "little"
Average.
👍
100% techno
e16....
We still use the e11 version...^^
very old
co je na tom narocneho? :D upnes nahazis astroje pustis a sednes a par hodinek si posedis ,celkem pohoda prace jen to chce dost filmu
Máš pravdu ale niekedy spravý nápis veľa 😁
@@CncFrezar to chapu ,kazdopadne narocne obrabeni bylo kdyzme na 130 horizontku ktera mela 35 tun na stredu narvali 40tunovej pojezd pro portal do boeingu ;D to kdyz se tocil stul tak se klepala cela hala jak to bylo pretizene ;D
Alal vera!
I would like to join with you sir plz
Why do you not take a bigger Highfeedcutter for the Roughing Process?This big Machine should easy take a 120mm Cutter.I can be Hours faster.
The spindle is too weak for that.
нихуя не понятно,но очень интересно!