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How to fly an ILS in a Fast Jet | Hawk T1 (MSFS)
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- Real Fast Jet Pilot demonstrates proper ILS technique
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An oldie but a goodie, this video provides instruction from a real Fast Jet instructor on how to fly an ILS. The simulator makes things a little tricker than they would actually be in real life, so proper technique is vital if you want to be precise!
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How do you only have 8k subscribers? Insanely good video. You actually understand what you are doing which makes it very very good for people watching and trying to learn.
Thanks, that’s very kind! Guess I’m kinda niche!
@@cgaviator I am pilot myself but only with an VFR SEP rating currently (working towards my doing my IR) and I can see all the little bits you add to your video that really make the difference on content creation. I can now see why fast jets take so many hours to train on.
@@TW19567 thank you 🙏🏻
Great video 👌👍
I just got a feel of what the word "Aviator" really means 👏
IFF stands for "Inerrogation Friend or Foe". It's not a squawk code as used in civil flight. It's also not meant to replace the transponder as used in civil flying. IFF codes are randomly generated and change frequently so that foes can't try to "hack in" and act as a friendly.
True enough, you certainly know your stuff! Though as IFF/SSR is commonly referenced in the checklist the term was sometimes misused (as I’ve done!).
Thank you for the time to do these Chris. I am not a fast jet dude but love the professionalism of the presentation. ( you sound like my instructor son in your dialogue, similar backgrounds show 😁. ) Sound was good for me this time.
Thank goodness that the audio is getting better! Progress! And thank you for saying. The next Hawk will be a red one!
This is now my favourite flight sim channel...and I've seen a few! Thank you sir. 👍
Much appreciated, thank you so much! 👍🏻
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I'm new to the Hawk and loving it and I can't get enough of your videos!
Glad to hear it! Enjoy! 👍🏻
Just After the hawk came out, I figured out by myself how to have a good glideslope and airspeed, 3 attempt before it was good ! Thank you very much for your explanation, everything looks much clearer now.
Greeting from a french simmer !
Greetings to you! Great to reach European friends!
I could watch you fly all day/night long. I have just bought the Hawk and this has helped me out a ton. Thank you.
Glad to help! Enjoy!
@@cgaviator Hopefully I won't flip it into the dirt when coming into Valley next time!
@@Axl_Pose my next video will help you, just need time to edit it! 😅
@@cgaviator lol! Looking forward to it, man. Your run throughs are well explained. I really enjoyed your mach loop run... cos I'm a welsh, sheep, bothering man 🤣
Brilliant video! So pleased you got suggested to me the other day with the other Hawk Video. So cool to hear someone who actually knows their stuff about their planes rather than is just giving opinion like the rest of us!
Also really appreciate the documents. The manual is good but does leave a lot to be desired so these fill that perfectly!
Thank you for taking the time to say! Just Flight manuals are among the most thorough you can get, especially the flight tutorial included. But it takes time and I like to just jump in and go!
@@cgaviator No problem.
Oh absolutely I always find they give very clear instructions for the key parts but often find can have key info not as clearly layed out of not including some things I personally would appreciate but they clearly put as much effort into them as the plane itself.
I agree though I prefer loading in, setting course and quick start via tablet and go but do try to learn how to properly fly the planes most enjoy flying.
Thank you. I'm OK with an ILS but, in my first hour with the Hawk, I have struggled with power settings/speed. Just watching your RPM inputs here has been very useful. I'm sure the manual would have been if I had opened it but obviously I was too excited to try that! I've done a lot of flight instruction in the past and I know how much concentration it takes to talk everything through whilst doing it. To do this with a feel-less PC joystick etc. with an audience of thousands must be quite a strain yet you keep it all perfectly calm - kudos to you!
Thank you for those kind words! I’m learning alot as I do it and I’m so chuffed with all the positive feedback. And who reads the manual these days!?! 😂 Next video out soon!
Thanks for the clear and helpful tutorial! You make it look so easy :)
Appreciate it, after a few years of doing nothing but it becomes easier!
Excellent work! I learned quite a bit with this.
Glad to hear it!
I've messed around with X Plane over the years but I've got no real flying experience and never knew what I was doing. There's plenty of videos online but this is on another level really. Amazing. I hope your channel booms because it's high quality stuff.
Thank you kindly, great to hear!
Awesome vid matey. Very good fundamentals and airmanship
Thank you 🙏🏻
Great video, learning so much, thank you.
Another awesome video Chris.
Thanks! I decided to update the thumbnail as it was one of my first videos ever!
Very well done video mate!
Thanks, appreciate it 👍🏻
Many thanks for an excellent tutorial.
Your welcome, and thank you for your kind words
Totally amazing and I'm slowly going through your videos trying to learn along the way
Good stuff, hope it helps 👍🏻
@@cgaviator hi Chris, yes it's certainly helping that's for sure. What I'm struggling with the hawk on at the moment is wobbling all over the place on take off and landing. I've not long got the JF Hawk. Still at least it's a SIM and not real world.
@@1039king they are aware of the wobble. I hope they get around to fixing it soon.
@@cgaviator Thank you for confirming I was sure I was doing something wrong, especially taking off from only stayed in the runway for about 50 ft with full right rudder. And as for landing at culdrose, I might as well have landed in the supermarket car park lol.
I'll be watching more videos soon, although I have to go to sleep now working nights this week.
Excellent! Many thanks!
ok to date, now May 2024. Excellent channel, just picked up on this with my interest now changing from the airliners ( yes the flying tubes ! ), GA aircraft etc, to some of the select military aircraft that MSFS 2020 now offers. Looking forward to the Just Flight Tornado, which may be quite some time before release. Going to purchase the Hawk from Just Flight as I like their addons. So I am watching your tutorials now. Reading and listening with a vengeance from a real flight jockey. Much appreciate the time and hard work you spend on your videos. Full of immersion, and quality. Keep up the good work. Just to note, your GPS routes, Memory maps etc and links do not work to your web site. No matter which browser I use I get an error. Would be nice if you could make them all available again. Thank you.
Yeah sorry, website has been down a while and I’ve not had time to fix or do new videos. Fingers crossed soon
Another great tutorial. 👌👍
Thank you! Cheers!
thank you for the video!
You’re very welcome 👍🏻
Great video, love the real world experience and look at this new MSFS aircraft - find I'm learning lots!
On the YT side, do find your videos to be pretty quiet, I took a look at this one and it looks like it's sitting about -30 to -20 on the dbfs scale while you're talking. I'd personally normally have that closer to about -12 or -10dbfs.
Keep up the good work! Easy +1 Subs from me :)
Hey, thanks for the kind words and especially the audio feedback! I work with headphones and I often find the audio loud. I’m also trying to dial in a Yeti microphone in a room that suffers echo! 😅 I’ll refine the settings as you mention, thanks again 👍🏻
@@cgaviator Yeti's can tend to pick up a lot of that room tone, best result to reduce that is normally talking closer to the mic with a lower gain - but then you can get plosive 'pops' effects and other mouth noise to deal with. Pop shields can help with the former but there's a bit of mic technique can help as well. Tbh I tend to hand-edit the worst of it from my voiceovers and let audio plugins deal with the rest.
On the levels, I'd trust the main output meters in your editor - with headphones there's so much variability to really judge loudness via general impression.
@@LCTRgames thank you, great advice
This brings back bad memories of doing my IR without the luxuries of a wind vector and track indicator lol… these days when I’m feeling reeeally hardcore I turn off the flight director 🤣
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Great info 🤘
Much appreciate 👍🏻
New to the simming world (but not flying!). surprised that the Hawk doesn't have a flight director. Perhaps the T2 does? First class patter btw, and incredibly useful informatiom on power settings.
Old aeroplane! T2 will certainly have one. And thanks 👍🏻
Smooth and well flown. I like the references you’ve made to control instruments and the necessity for only small changes to pitch and throttle for adjustments. Good to see the basics described so well again. I look forward for more videos. I am a Hawk fan and teaching my daughter to fly with it as she want to follow dads foot steps. Two questions you may be able to answer in another video. 1. No clock … how come? What do you use for time keeping? How do you determine ‘on time’ for mission planning or missed approach points using timing? I assume a watch but think it would be difficult on a bumpy day low vis and both hands working while mentally keeping the flight together.
2. Fuel flow - interesting to see the lack of a Fuel Flow Gauge. Like the Mig-21 (DCS experience only, in just a biz jet guy that likes fighters and the training aspects) did you commit fuel profiles to memory, have a knee board with rates vs speed and altitude? Was there just a rough hack for gas? 15kg/min down low and 10kg up high (super random guess). What does a bingo profile look like? What’s the min fuel to recover with at base vs carrying an alternate? 200kg I’ve seen on line but that looks more like a ‘no alternate’ IFR plan. Do you plan a mission with padding on fuel? 650kg plus 10%?
Sorry (I’m CDN, we always apologize lol) for the depth of the questions. If you are able to answer any I’d love it.
Great video again and l look forward to more. :)
Norcat
What’s your background if you don’t mind me asking? CDN?
For fuel planning you use expected burn during set climb, cruise and descent profiles. The JF manual has them I believe. The FRCs linked from my first Hawk video certainly has what every Hawk T1 pilot carries. From that crews can produce a cheat sheet for easy numbers. In the Quick Reference guide I produced I included expected fuel usage for nm and min at low level and FL250 which can be rounded as required. I plan on doing a ‘no GPS’ mission plan including fuel and time calculations in a future video. As for recovery fuel, Mona airfield was the RLG so minimal divert fuel was required. On weather days the supervisor would provide a fuel requirement for the usual diverts. I’ll see if I can dig them out!
As for the ILS, there should be a clock as, without GPS, that was the only way to know when your next turn point at low level was! Timing for missed approach points was usually based on range though timing was approved.
Thanks for the interest. I hope to teach my daughter eventually. Though I think I’ll start with the Tutor… much easier to land! 😄
@@cgaviator thanks for the quick reply. I’ll look at the other videos as I just came across your UA-cam channel.
I’m a CDN guy, army a loooong time ago and a biz jet driver for the last 20+yrs. Flying a CL850 at present.
~You mentioned there should be a clock. Have I missed it? Don’t see any in there. :) -GPS and sim clocks don’t count. Old school is what I’m after. That vid you’ll make has me intrigued.
Now off to make a tea and see your other videos. :)
@@Rgordonpilot I meant there should be a separate clock that JF may not have modelled. CL850… nice!
@@cgaviator ahhh gotcha. :)
Where did u have it in your SQN aircraft?
@@Rgordonpilot if memory serves me it was top left glare shield and could pivot flat when not used.
Excellent video, very helpful and informative! Please do more of this stuff…
And above all: I just love to watch how you control this plane with utmost precision - almost surgical.
One question, unrelated to ILS approaches: I found that the throttle needs quite a bit of adjustment after a climb or descent. I presume, it depends on the airspeed? 90% can quickly turn into 105% as airspeed builds up. Is that how the real plane behaves?
Very kind words, thank you for taking the time to comment. On the topic of the engine, I hadn’t noticed that. RPM should stay largely the same. You may get 1% change but that’s it. I’ll test it tonight and feedback to JF if required. Though I believe 104% is the max rpm. What sort of climb/descent are you flying? They should be constant speed around 300kt so the airspeed should change very little.
So far, I was just putting her thru her paces. Experimental flights, without - I admit - extensive reading of the manual.
I’ll have to do some further testing myself. But I did notice that the thrust setting can change quite a bit, within a minute or less. Most likely because of changes in airspeed. I will fly again tomorrow and let you know (I don’t want to jump to conclusions and make JF change anything before thorough testing - they did such an incredible job with this bird!)
The only thing I found so far that could use some improvement are the clicks spots for Bat 1, Bat 2, FP and Pitot Heat: I can only operate them with precision if I close my right eye (I fly in VR only)
Thankyou.
cracking!
HI! About the transponder, could you explain the difference between MODE 4A and MODE 4B (the lefthand side knob) and why there are two separate 4 digit squawk codes one next to the other? Are they both active?
Not sure off the top of my head for the A vs B. But the 2x 4-digit = 1 is active, other is standby. Left right toggle switch activates digits for changing and then for active.
Another great video, out of curiosity what flight stick are you using as my X55 died :( ..... Did you get any flying hours in with TONKA, i miss the days i was able to train in them :(
May have got some hours in that big beautiful bird! I use an extended Warthog stick. Love it!
Hi nice video to lesrn from.
Where you insert the ILS FRQ?
Thanks
Dylan
Lower right, says ILS/VOR 👍🏻
Really enjoying these videos. I’d love to learn how to fly.
But question about the Hawk itself, has it always been designed as a fast jet training plane? Or was it originally specified to also do combat? And, compared to the real world, how does the sim model handle? Fairly accurate?
The Hawk T1A had the ability to carry Sidewinder I believe. The rumour was that it was available for air defence of the realm if required but that’s only a rumour I heard! The model handles fairly similar. Difficult to achieve proper realism without force feedback.
@@cgaviator Very interesting stuff, thank you!
Not a question relevant to the video, but can you tell me how to turn off the nose light of the aircraft (I assume this is the taxi lights) from inside the aircraft? I can’t seem to locate a switch for it. In options, turn off taxi lights is “Alt J”, but this doesn’t work. “L” seems to make it flicker , but it also turns off all cockpit lights which I don’t want.
The only lights I can locate is in the lower right panel of the front pilot, but I can’t find taxi anywhere. I’m trying to make some video capture of this jet but can’t get the nose light off.
Same switch I believe. Have you got a light that stays on with the switch you mentioned in the down position?
Great video but how do you set up the instruments? I could get the DME or glideslope to show any info?
Thanks. Firstly, Tacan is not yet supported by the sim. For VOR or ILS, tune it on the panel lower right and switch knob to either VOR or ILS. To the right of the localiser/glideslope display ensure you have ILS selected (doesn't matter if you're flying VOR) - it could say Tacan by default. Set your course bar to the required course. Ensure you're within range and roughly lined up with centreline for ILS to become active. That should sort it!
@@cgaviator Thank you!
I’ve been struggling with landing the Hawk as I’ve been chasing the trim. It appears from this video trim is almost, if not, totally non existent. I will need to go and give this a go.
Trim is very important for flying this accurately. It’s a lot easier to trim with the new update, from what I’ve tried so far
@@cgaviator thanks… I’ve not updated to the new version but will give it a go. I’m very keen to get to grips with this plane, it’s a favourite so if anything’s new that improves trimming it’s a good thing. The change log didn’t suggest anything new about it though.
@@cgaviator hi again, the new version is much easier to trim so thank you for the hint. I have another question, probably very simple to answer but it’s foxing me. How do I bind the anti collision lights… ? I can’t even get them to switch with the mouse… :-(
@@MrBob6939 not sure, I just click them on. There may not be a bind for it. Have you checked manual?
@@cgaviator you have better luck clicking on them as they won’t move for me. I’ve read the manual but nothing stands out. I will look again and see if something in the MSFS binds are preventing them clicking up and down.
Hi Chris
Im having a rough time with my rudder pedals in the hawk ,can you please tell me your settings in mfs for the just flight hawk
Thanks
Dave
Rudder pedals are just footrests in the hawk! Only used on ground. But if they’re over sensitive I think there’s a setting for you to dumb them down. My settings are all default and ultra
@@cgaviator Thanks Chris
Its mainly on takeoff i start the roll and apply a little bit of toe brakes on each pedal but when it starts to veer off at speed and use the rudder the aircraft topples and crashes .
All other controls are perfect ,just the rudder is the problem
@@davidmuir6849 MSFS doesn’t simulated free castoring nose wheels yet so don’t use toe brake on takeoff. Smoothly apply a bit of rudder to compensate drift. It is easy to PIO. You could try reducing the yaw sensitivity to make it easier
Daft question. Given the aerobatic nature and use of these Hawks, how come there's no AGL indicator ? Would be good for safety too in IFR cons !
Old airframe, radalt wasn’t a high priority I guess. QFE works just as well for displays at airfields, but most aero practice is above 5000 AMSL. Would be most useful at low level for judging 250ft but again, everything is practiced with rules of thumb
@@cgaviator
OK I see. Thnx
So presumably they wouldn't be doing the Mach Loop in a Hawk in zero viz !
But I'm guessing those new F35s could prolly do it... without a pilot !?
@@gollygolly368 5km vis required for normal ops. I don’t believe the F35 has automatic terrain following capabilities. But the mighty Tornado GR4 could fly low level in cloud. But wouldn’t be able to turn down tight valleys.
Do we know a release date for the Hawk on Xbox yet?? Thanks
Not yet, perhaps early next year
have purchased the hawk how do u get the missiles cheers
You can only get missiles if you bought it from just flight website. Enabled through the iPad in cockpit.
ah, good old 4576. Sadly no longer a valid Vale of York conspicuity code :( RIP LOO
Haha... good pickup! I often use that as a reminder of the good times!
Seriously, my Gen still fails at idle throttle since day one, can someone tell me what im doing wrong?
Also your videos are excellent but the audio is also incredibly quiet trying to remedy this would be a step in the right direction :)
I'm aware my audio settings suck, lol. I'll fix it eventually. As for the generator trouble: I suspect you may be clicking the start relight button after engine start. This will disengage the generator and require you to press the DC Rest button. Is there any way this could be happening? An odd key bind perhaps?
Disregard my last, I just tried it and I don't that's modelled... yet. Have you tried setting the aircraft ready for flight to confirm it's not your checks? Not that it should be. Have you also turned failures off?
I’m getting this too but haven’t had time to figure it out - if I pull back to idle I get (from memory) LFPR and all the inverters fail along with the horizon toppling but engine still running. Moving the throttle up a bit and resetting the inverters fixes it and puts the aircraft back into the correct state but it’s really annoying that I can’t close the thrust lever fully. I’m wondering if it’s maybe an errant bind on the other axis (dual throttle on the warthog) but didn’t have time to check yet.
@@cgaviator Thanks for getting back to me, I managed to fix this today and maybe you explain why?
For some reason when I turn the ignition out of normal and into the isolate position it no longer fails?
Hopefully this works for @zeeflyboy as well:-)
Love the vids and looking forward to more your flying is incredible
@@Zeeflyboy just explained above what fixed it for me^^ hope it works for you too:-)
Chris. Just wondering what changes to your real flying skills you had to make to fly a £30 Hawk? And I mean no disrespect to Just Flight by that comment. Seat of the pants/gravity is missing from PC sims. I'm not a pilot but was a skydive instructor for 10 years. But I've been in cloud Convinced we were turning. When I looked at the instruments we were level.
This sim, as with real sims, require a very strong cross check to ensure your pitch and power settings are producing the required results. And of course, without ATC, you need to vector yourself into the right position to pick up the localiser.
Why does this aircraft wobble so much on takeoff and landing ?!?! it's driving me crazy
I don't get wobble but I do notice the x-wind having quite an effect. If you're using rudder pedals you could look to reduce the sensitivity?
IMPORTANT NOTES: 1 - The ILS/TACAN button on the front center panel needs to be set to ILS. By default it is set to TACAN so none of this will work until you switch modes. 2 - The UHF radio must be turned on.