Mach Loop - Low Level Navigation - Just Flight Hawk T1 (MSFS) - Real Hawk pilot
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- Take a tour of the Mach Loop with a real Hawk pilot! I have dozens of laps of the real Mach Loop under my belt. Join me for a full flight (sequences shortened) from Startup, Medium Level cruise, Low Level navigation and a return to RAF Valley. I'll demonstrate basic techniques (adapted for the sim) and I deal with tricky weather!
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📚 CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
01:06 Start Up
04:40 Takeoff
07:29 Low Level
08:32 Entry to Mach Loop
12:19 RTB Low Level
16:55 Recovery to RAF Valley
19:55 Landing
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I live in Machynlleth and grew up just assuming that every small town had military aircraft flying overhead very often as a result, it’s only recently I’ve started to appreciate being able to see such majestic planes here. A pair of F-35s flying over today made my day.
I bet it made theirs as well! 😄
Superb stuff. I actually forgot that I was watching a flight simulator! This is some of the best flightsim content I have ever seen. The fidelity is very much down to your real life skills and professionalism. Thank you very much!
Very kind of you to say! Thank you
@@cgaviator You should definitely check out VR if you haven't yet. Nice video, I skimmed here and there but overall watched most of it.
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Great flashback of when I was a flight line engineer at RAF Valley in the early 90s.
amazing how a ‘game’ can bring back so many memories!
Excellent vid. I was a crew chief on Saudi Mk65 hawk. I believe you can't start engines on T1 Due to canopy seal inflation. Mk65 you can start and taxi with canopy up. Also taxi light not on nose. all down to heat problems.
Awesome thanks. Heat wasn’t such an issue in the UK. But that makes sense why the canopy is lowered but not locked for engine start. 👍🏻
Last time I flew that was in a Wessex 40 yrs ago. It looks fabulous in this sim. must get it.
It’s amazing how far sims have come!
I used to have a caravan in the Mach loop, we were driving down to Barmouth through it and we didn’t expect it, but the red arrows went over. Highlight of the 10 years we had it.
Its amazing how much it all works out and feels and looks more realistic when its someone who knows the real aircraft and procedures.
In my next video I get more precise with the time and speed and the results are amazing!
Thanks for the ride, Chris! A pleasure. Subscribed :)
Appreciate it, thanks!
Can't believe you only have 650 subscribers. Make that 651, enjoyed the video!
Thank you! Early days I hope.
at around 10:40 , the turn to the east is right by our office and looks straight down the valley. We have superb low level flypasts! Great video. Enjoyed it a lot
Thank you, much appreciated
What a great useful video for us amateur Hawk drivers and Mach Loopers! Thanks for putting it together!
You’re very welcome. Last checks of the next video. Out soon!
I have camped in the Ogwen Valley and on the mountains, many a time seen jets passing at lower altitudes than where I have been... This sim is incredible the valley is pretty much perfectly represented all the mountains are stunningly accurate.
Very accurate indeed!
Thera are a dozen of "review", "first impression" and "hands on" on you tube since the Hawke t1/A release, but only one channel is a actually flying the darn plane.
Please keep going on with these videos. There are only 4 e I'm keeping on playing them back in loop...
Very kind words, thank you! I'm lucky in that I don't have to study the manual too much on this one! I'll eventually branch out to other things but hopefully the airmanship will transfer ok
"...but we'll go for it anyway"
Pressing on regardless, in the finest tradition of the RAF.
😂
Beautifully compiled, superbly executed. Visited the Mach Loop for the first time a couple of months back. Nothing prepares you for the sheer adrenaline rush. I saw a flight of 3x T1s - sublime!
Thank you for your kind words, really appreciated!
Great mission thanks for the vid, i live not far from bala see hawks fly over all the time
Nice place to live, especially if you like jets!
@@cgaviator love them
Superb. I live in North Wales and often see the Hawks and the Texan T1 flying about. Great stuff and thank you for taking the time to put this together.
You’re welcome, and thanks for the kind words 👍🏻
Great video and tutorial.
Thank you, much appreciated!
Fabulous video sir! I have this and still on a learning curve and light years off your level! Lol great fun though flying my Spitfire over Belfast 🤣🇬🇧
that was fun . Cool vid Chris
Thank you sir! You should make a gliding tutorial as that’s alien magic to me! 😂
@@cgaviator yes its all magic. Have been thinking of a few non standard vids .
Well after watching that (along with your other videos) and constantly failing whilst trying to emulate that route, it indeed does confirm that I was no loss to the Air Force as a Pilot and was much better suited to a career in Stores 😁 I did quite a few back seat flights whilst at Valley many many years ago (when the sky seemed full of T1's ) but I wouldn't even begin to assume that the Flight model is accurate but is certainly looks the part. However, living in that area, I can say that the mapping most certainly is, and I can accurately point out and recognize virtually all the areas and features whilst I fly around certainly above a height above 250' height (lowish spec graphics card) below 250' is usually when I suffer an unplanned landing. Brilliant and informative videos, please Keep them coming.👍👍
Flying back seat is great for actually being able to take in the scenery! I’m amazed by the accuracy for the default sim in terms of scenery. Love it! Lol… unplanned landing!
if this is the new Hawk from aerosoft I believe it to be a pretty accurate model
Takes me back to the early 80s in T1s at the TWU Brawdy.
I don’t fly sims but that is extremely accurate visually and your following of pre and in flight procedures (from what I can remember) adds to the realism.
I cut a fair few corners, but it’s amazing what the sim is capable of!
@@cgaviator I did notice the odd omission prior to going low!
@@stew7654 I took out the checks for brevity, but they’ll be in the next one! 👍🏻
@@cgaviator Might I suggest a sortie showing stall and spin recovery, perhaps some radar and visual PFLs?
@@stew7654 sadly the spin dynamics are completely wrong. This is due to MSFS’s implementation of the flight model! PFL is a good one though I’m assessing glide performance at the moment. I have a couple of videos in the pipeline 👍🏻
You think act and commentate faster than I can just think , absolutely fascinating , I too forgot I was watching a simulation and found this absolutely riveting, having watched many Mach loop videos by people out on the hills this pilots eye view along with commentary is excellent , thanks for taking us along .
Thank you for taking the time to comment! Much appreciated!
As a Mach Loop regular, found this really interesting, especially with you being a real pilot who has actually done it! Was lucky enough to catch a 736 Sqn Hawk T1 from Cad East a couple of months back. Snuck in low and fast, caught me by surpise. Quite possibly my last T1 sighting "in the wild" before they are retired for good early next year (not counting the Reds) :(
Yeah, sad times! All the good old stuff is being retired! Makes me feel old! 😅
@@cgaviator out of interest, which types did you fly?
@@pancakesgo7995 Tutor, Tucano, Hawk, GR4 👍🏻
@@cgaviator Nice, may have seen you flying through over the years.
13:47 "I'm a little bit high, so that's not helping me"
I giggled.
Haha, yeah! Honestly talking height not 🦨 😆
Very nice and informative...My favourite sim aircraft.. thanks for the fight.
You’re welcome!
Another great video Chris, really enjoying your UA-cam content.
Thanks, appreciate it!
Thank you for a great video. I have now subscribed. My first tour was RAF Valley back in 1975. I flew in what was LFA10 in a Gnat on several weather checks. Brawdy would do LFA 7, although I was fortunate to fly the Mach Loop in the rear seat of a Gnat before leaving Valley. I remember being surprised at looking up and seeing people above us on the side of a hill. I went on to complete 38 years retiring as a Sqn Ldr, I loved the service and more importantly the people, like all air traffic controllers I was always a wannabe fast jet pilot but realised I didn’t have the capacity and would have probably killed myself trying! The beauty of MSFS is we get to try without the expense and the risk. Great video, I look forward to learning from your videos.
Thanks for joining! The gnat must have been fun! And certainly a good tour!
@@cgaviator Chris I loved it, horizontal rain and always blowing a gale!
Fascinating - can’t wait to give it a go in the sim. Much appreciated.
Thank you 👍🏻
I've been sort of teaching myself the loop in the MB339, always wishing there was more info on UA-cam and then I find this. Thank you so much to take time out to share your skills and knowledge. Needless to say, an instant sub and I'll buy the Hawk!
Thank you for taking the time to comment. Really glad to hear it's of use! I do enjoy the MB339, great model. Enjoy!
Absolutely brilliant video! Found it so interesting and loved the commentary, off to watch the planning video and all the other videos on the channel! Keep up the videos mate 😊
Thanks, much appreciated! Planning video is still WIP. Next one soon 👍🏻
I do hope I can visit this area one day - thanks for the sim flight it really is impressive hearing how you navigate through the weather and mountains.
Definitely worth a visit! And thank you 👍🏻
This was epic. It's great to see a pro fly around the Loop. I tried it the day after I bought the Hawk and the third time round I misjudged one of the turns and ended up in the side of the valley swinging in the trees like a monkey! Can't wait for the planning vid
I have some good ideas for the planning video. May take a while. Other videos in the works though.
@@cgaviator sounds awesome! Looking forward to it
Great! Really enjoyed that. Looking forward to the planning video.
It's still a work in progress! Hopefully you enjoy today's video
This was really fab. So many things going on but you make it look like the artform it is. Subbed and look forward to more!
Thank you so much!
Excellent! Thanks for taking us along very enjoyable flight
You’re very welcome, any time!
Nice one!. Looking forward to the planning video.
It's a work in progress! But the Lake District video has some more tips and tricks
Masterfully executed and narrated. Very impressed with your skills and the sim allowing you to showcase your skills. Fantastic.
Thank you! Kind of you to say!
Great stuff! Your presentation is like your landing. Dead straight and on the numbers. A pleasure!
Thank you, very kind!
I'm often up at the loop (although I haven't been since covid) taking photos and I'm always enjoy seeing the Hawks Buzz around North Wales. Now I've got a narrated journey of the whole thing. Loved it, and really enjoyed the commentary 👍
Excellent! Do you sim at all?
Such a great video. Thanks for making this. The narrator being an actual pilot made this sooo much more immersive.
Thank you. Next one out soon I hope!
Nicely done!
You have a like and a new subscriber!
Very kind, thank you!
Excellent. Enjoyed every minute of old basic navigation.
Strange that real Hawk is not equipped with a clock.
The real one is! It’s usually a flip up option on top left glareshield. This I believe it is a work in progress.
He sounds like the narrator for the Red Arrows
Superb!
This is excellent. Thank you so much :).
Am going off to purchase this now so will be relying on any more videos you make!
I should really ask Just Flight for some commission! 😂
I did the Loop in a Cessna Citation just last evening. Flt Sim 2020. :) I didn't return to Valley though, but climbed to 21000 and went to a low and slow over Honington, then 12000 to Humberside (not far from Binbrook). I was at all three bases in my time.
Good tour! 💪🏻
Really appreciated chap! Fascinating! I'll be having a go later....
Let me know how it goes! 🤘🏻
Another nice video. I’ll try the loop now :)
Look forward to the planning video.
May take me a while, and planning is not nearly as fun as raging around at low level! 😅
@@cgaviator haha. Indeed raging is far more fun. No pressure! ~Finally saw a T.1 cockpit equipped with a clock on the glare shield. Nice set up.
Thoroughly enjoyed that, excellent clear commentary, I’m hooked, thank you
Thank you 🙏🏻
Can't really add much more than the people already praising this channel/video uploads. Truly amazing, keep up the great work. 👍 Subscribed.
Thank you so much
Excellent 👍 👍 👍 Thank you. Subscribed.
Take care.
The lighting in Microsobo's WorldSimulation is designed with HDR in mind, meaning the differences between dark and bright are pretty wide, even if HDR isn't active. The mountain you mentioned that appeared to be black is only a harsh shadow, which considering the contrast between bright sunshine and the steep hill and the sun angle these days should be pretty realistic. If it appears black you have to adjust the brightness/contrast of your monitor if you don't see any details as it isn't simulated as dark. Therefore some newer games ask you for a simple form of screen calibration to get the brightness/contrast to levels that are appropriate to display the game correctly. Just adjust Brightness/contrast/gamma and if your panel isn't the cheapest TN version ... the dark mountains of MachLoop will be gone. 😉💙 Thanks for your service!
Thanks for the explanation. I did however try to change the sun able to illuminate the hillside and it still appear void of detail.
You made me curious, i went for a round in the Mach Loop. Seems as the bing imagery itself containing these really dark shadows, yet the dark sides of the hills are not completely black and you can see some structure and height profile under it. Maybe this imagery has been taken at spring or autumn or at least too late at the evening when shadows are intense. Unfortunately the data from Bing is far from perfect and sometimes outdated, maybe that is something we have to live with to some degree as they don't have just one set of world maps, they are using up to 21 layers of different LOD's, several sets of maps with different resolution. Pretty sure in regions like the norwegion fjords you will find this more often. Hopefully these issues will be solved over time either through better maps or with artifical reforestation... 💙
@@rakon8496 thanks for checking. It is possible to edit the areas with better imagery but it’s an effort!
Another splendid video, thanks!
Always a pleasure!
Another great video. Yes please for another video on planning including fuel calcs and considerations. Thanks very much.
I added a little extra planning in my latest video. I have yet to find a way of interestingly getting across planning etc. It's a work in progress!
@@cgaviator just watched it - excellent stuff thank you
Fantastic! Looking forward to the planning video!
May take a while, but I'll get there eventually!
I could watch these videos all day! Such a cool insight!!!
Thanks, appreciate it. Need to do more. Just need the time 👍🏻
I’ve wanted MSFS for years and finally got an Xbox last week to play it. Not quite the same user functionality as you get on PC but still a lot of fun! I’m toying with the idea of getting the Hawk. It looks so good!
Gonna try this tomorrow with the T1/A Hawk !
Thanks, nicely done and a big help in understanding the full route
Glad to help!
Really cool, thanks for sharing!
No probs!
A very good training video. The real life skills, your skills, are of a great level and demononstrad on the spot. Nice lessons so to say. Thx.
Thank you, very kind to say, more Hawk videos to come. Hopefully this weekend.
Really glad the youtube algorithm sent this my way, i'm up the loop quite regularly taking pictures, been going for years and definitely contemplating getting a sim and a basic control setup to just potter about on. superb, absolutely superb example of flying, shame theres no radio transmissions or i'd have thought this was real!
Thank you, and the algorithm! 😅 Glad you enjoyed. Perhaps I’ll try it on multiplayer with ATC involved!
Just subscribed. Brilliant video....really enjoyed it. Thanks 👍
Thanks, one of the golden oldies on the channel. Hope to make more soon!
Another terrific tutorial.
Thank you 👍🏻
Awesome stuff thank you
You make it look easy! Great video!
Thank you!
Great content, you deserve many more subs! Will be utilising this to help teach my Cadets.
Wow, very kind words! Glad it's of use, especially for cadets!
I might use that for my next hike ))
What a great video.
Thank for taking the time to say! Much appreciate!
Brilliant stuff! I hope Just Flight are sponsoring you, you are selling this aircraft
I wish! Nah, this is for fun 👍🏻
Serious content. Sweet.
Thanks 👍🏻
Cool to see the actual route, speeds and procedures from the air. Ive been sat on the section of cad west a few times this year exacly where you pointed it in, and been lucky enough to see both a 4 ship, and a 6 ship of lakenheaths f15s come right over, always exactly on that point.one of them even did a roll for me and passed directly over me at 500 knots. The noise they made screaming down towards the lake together is unbelievable, the valley itself shakes. Seen hawks through as well, but theyre so small and fast, unless you know exactly where to look for the approach from the car park theyre coming, there and gone in under 2 seconds
The F15s seem to actually point at you! 😄
Great video! I visited in 2017 and spent a few days on CAD East. Unfortunately the weather was bad and the only aircraft I got was an A400M
That’s the way the cookie crumbles sometimes!
Another brilliant video. Really excited for the planning video as pretty sure been flying the loop wrong (dyslexia, dyspraxia and the fact not got any plans found to work with the sim have meant just been flying rough) so to have a proper video on planning will be invaluable! Thank you
Thanks! I may take a while to out together. Subject is a little ‘dry’ so I’m trying to balance making it quick vs being accurate enough.
@@cgaviator No, please make it as dry as you can. We want to know everything :D
Thanks for the great content! After flying with GA planes and airliners and trying to keep within real world civilian speed, altitude and noise restrictions in MSFS for the last year, this is… different. I would love some insight in how the rules of flying a military jet differs from civilian aviation. Why am I allowed to fly at 400 kts@250 feet over someones home? And where (or when) is this not permitted?
@@fantefut8231 there’s a difference to flying over 1 house vs flying over a populated area. Crews will, whenever possible, avoid houses, livestock etc. If it’s a cluster of houses or a village etc then crews will fly wide around them. I can’t give too much info as the training documents are not open source. But within those constraints, I’ll make sense of the planning documents.
More videos please!
Roger!
Brilliant , thank you .....Subscribed
Thank you 🙏🏻
Man - that was great. I recognised the entry point hill side where you get the photographers - isn't it crazy that this sim is so real. Really really good - subscribed.
It is amazing! Hopefully with the upcoming updates it'll get even better!
Great content, thank you for the video. You have a new subscriber 😉👌
Great to hear it!
Really looking forward to the Hawk T1 coming to MSFS on Xbox soon. For now we have the Goshawk, which I’ve loved flying around!
Fantastic video, liked and subscribed
Thank you. I believe the delay is with MS reference Xbox version.
Good fun, subscribed.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Oddly relaxing to video to watch, thanks!
Lol, good to hear. Maybe there's a niche for chill out sim replay!
really really good thank you .....
Fantastic video.
Thank you very much!
Always wanted to do the loop myself! Now I can and it looks fantastic. Looking forward to the navigation planning video(s)! Keep it up ... but ... REALLY LOW! 😂👍🏻
I’ve got a fun idea for the next video!
Haha … getting creative. Nice.
Thanks a lot, I really enjoyed that one.
I had all my summer holidays in Rhosneigr as a kid and absolutely fascinated by this. 👍🏼
Lovely place to live!
@@cgaviator It most certainly is and one day mate, one day!
@@richardmeftah2569 think I already have it planned 😉
@@cgaviator Can't fault you on that one. What a fantastic place to live!
Superb... I qualified for my NPPL at Mona in 2006, so seeing this was quite familiar except for the actual Mach Loop !! Very much enjoyed it. I do have the latest MSFS, but I will be trying the Mach Loop now..... Thanks
I did a PPL re-qual at Mona. DA-40 I believe!
@@cgaviator I did a few hours in the Diamond DA-40 too, but flew mainly in the Cessna 152 and PA-28 Cherokee
@@SpikeF14 C152 and Warrior for me 💪🏻😅
Very nice video.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Yes! Love It! :)
Thanks 👍🏻
GREAT!!!
Only multis pilots climb the hill opposite lumberjack before turning in; jet-mates pull more G! You need to remember what it was like to fly something with actual wings… 😉 Great vid buddy.
Haha, you may have a point! I was taught that method and it’s stuck with me! Useful for flying the 747 around it!
Awesome content! Let me make a bold prediction here... I think if you keep that up your channel surely will grow a lot :)
I've subbed right away! Really like the style, fits in with a few other favs of mine like 320 sim pilot, flightdeck2sim and into the blue simulations...
What can I say... I'm a sucker for professionalism.
More excellent reviews, full flights and tutorials please! :D
Great feedback, thank you!
Fantastic video thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
@@cgaviator just subscribed to your channel cos your content is awesome, keep up the great work
@@TristamMayes thank you 🙏🏻
Briliant video again. Will wait for the planning. Are you as busy doing the real thing compared to MSFS. Thanks.
Yes, very busy lol!
very cool.
Superb, really enjoyed that, might have to buy the hawk now ! Nice break from the Cessna 172 and 152 I fly in real life 😂 thanks for sharing that with us!
Did my PPL in a 152. Always remember the door popping open whilst practicing unusual attitudes!
That was fab, a favourite part of the world for me for a myriad of reasons. I used to stay at a cottage above Llanbedr when it was active and I've stayed in some of the valleys that the USAF and RAF used for Afghanistan topography simulation. The Talyllyn lake with a Herc or two over flying low level is impressive too.
One of my older friends served with the RA and did some courses on 25 pounders in the area on some old ranges - I forget the name (not sure if it was Tonfanau?) My grandad was also RA by the time of WWII (he was BEF fighting the Waffen SS). So my partner and I went to take a look by driving some of those hairy little roads (with signs warning you not to get out because of ancient unexploded ordinance (she was having kittens when I did).
Whilst I was outside of the car, I heard a lone jet, a Tornado iirc. So I waved to see if he/she would see me and I'd get a wing waggle. My partner told me not to be so daft. I replied, if I was out and about in a Tornado, and saw a little red car half way up and mountain? I'd use it for target practice (hope above hope, remembering my dad's school teacher's son was a Mosquito pilot and would do little displays for the school when he could)😉😳😄🤞 And.....that's exactly what he/she did, mock strafing runs, 2-3 times, iirc. I was cracking up (I got an autogyro to do the similar once, I could also have a conversation with him as he was low, slow and open cockpit, both parties were laughing😄👍). Anyways, I waved at the Tornado on their last run and surprise, surprise he/she, returned and waggled the wings before leaving the area. Fantastic! My partner was gobsmacked🙄😄 I'm sure that was all outside of regs and procedure, but some opportunistic strafing runs surely was a good use of tax payers' money, we all did our bit for defence of the realm that day (if ever we are invaded by little red cars - as opposed to already having been invaded by the CCP🧐😳🙄) 😄😄👍✌️
The only other thing that came close was the BoB Lancaster overflying our house, about 600'+/-, banking hard, sun glinting off of the glass - twice✌️👍😊
That was great to read, thank you! Love it when interaction goes both ways! And yes, whenever I’ve seen someone camped out on the ridge line in the drizzle, I’m always sure to give them a pass! Within regs of course! 😁
@@cgaviator Thanks, Ive always loved all types of aviation, I was 3 when my dad started his PPL at Booker, I still remember it. The local teaching authority messed up my sitting physics so I couldn't get into the RAF (I'd have been happy flying a Herc through the ML😄👍), then motorcycles and booze were discovered so I lost incentive to join up.
Re fly pasts etc, the Tornado driver obeyed all the air laws AFAICT😉😉God bless you too, I bet the recipients love that a good bit of PR for the RAF👍✌️😊
This is astonishing! I have never been into sims but this is extremely realistic. I was a QFI at Valley in 82/83 and this brings it all back. I was actually tensing my stomach as you rolled and pulled into the turns. Simply amazing, well done!
Wow, cool! Back when the T1 was nearly new!? 😜 The sim is stunning. The only downside is the locked in generic flight dynamics. But it’s making good progress.
@@cgaviator Yeah, very new. The AHARS (?) was crap as if you pulled more than 2.5g the attitude indicator and the HSI toppled! You got very good at estimating your turns by looking out of the window before turning then pulling the jet round on to the new heading. Another MOD (PE) cockup! Fun times but I cannot believe that was 40 years ago! Can you fly formation in these things? Even after all this time, I still miss formation and low level.
@@747crab I believe (hope) the teaching is still to pick a feature before the turn to roll out on and then recheck the heading! Time flies! Pun intended! And yes, you can fly formation. Though from what I see (and to prevent trolling in multiplayer), the other aircraft disappears when you get ‘too’ close! Reno air race addon gets released this year which should be a lot of fun!!
@@cgaviator 18th november to be exact!
Brilliant 👏
Liked & subbed. Gonna try and get up to Mach Loop this summer to see some Military Airforce beauties. 🛩
Thanks, much appreciated!
Many thanks, very interesting. Regards.
Welcome!
great!
Fascinating videos. I’ve been looking forward to the IndiaFoxtrotEcho Tornado being released so hopefully you’ll be able to get that and show us how to properly use it! That’d be great.
I remember holidaying at Loch Earn and seeing the jets use Glenogle to go up Loch Tay. I would really like to see a low level Scotland mission video from Lossie once the tornado comes out. That’d be great. One for the future maybe.
Keep up the great videos please, liked and subscribed 👍
Yup, I can’t wait! 😁