Delta Keyer vs Ultra Keyer ← DaVinci Resolve ← Socratica

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @da2967
    @da2967 Рік тому +16

    Just FYI, the noise in the background isn't due to reflected light; it's caused by digital compression and low color depth (8-bit). Broadcast quality color starts at 10-bit, and 12- or 16-bit cameras, such as the RED Komodo, are even better for keying. Cameras such as the Lumix S5 or Sony A7S3 are good choices for higher quality at a reasonable price.

    • @socraticafx
      @socraticafx  Рік тому +4

      Excellent comment. (Thanks!) I'll pin this for others to read!
      We use a BMPCC6K camera, but haven't switched over to BRAW yet. Soon!

    • @Grasseatereu
      @Grasseatereu Рік тому

      it is also due to how light works, it is nearly impossible to light a green screen evenly, , bnut yes in this instance it has the round shape it is propably the camera :) - When you change to Braw you will propably rejoice a little, banding is not really an issue compared to proress.

    • @SeguraCine
      @SeguraCine 6 місяців тому

      @@socraticafx Hola
      SOcratia FX ya lo he puesto mi ultimo video como ejemplo para que veas que tego un problema con el croma ¿me puedes ayudar,, de paso me he subcrito a ti, haber que me puede pasar,, en mi vacinci 18,7 no hay Key 3d y puse composicion delta en el apartado de fusio, estoy negro,, con premiere era mas facil gracias ¿por que me sale esos colores tan feos? detras de mi ?

  • @barackyunus901
    @barackyunus901 Рік тому +16

    The way this guy makes this video so to the point and analyzing all details is a 10/10 no youtuber i have ever seen do itt

  • @johnny.decimal
    @johnny.decimal 10 місяців тому +1

    Just want to say what others have: your teaching style is superb. The perfect level of explanation, background, pace. I’ll be watching everything else! Thanks from a new DaVinci user.

  • @justingray4028
    @justingray4028 6 місяців тому +1

    Your thoroughness is inspiring.
    Thank you for your attention to detail while not overlooking the fundamental principles.
    You’re a great educator!

  • @Temersson
    @Temersson 3 місяці тому

    Easily the best comparison video I have seen on this subject! Thank you so much for this!

  • @rano12321
    @rano12321 Рік тому +8

    Cool video. Also, if you don't have a clean plate, you can use the clean plate node in Fusion to create a clean plate from the green screen footage.

  • @edward-t-grogan
    @edward-t-grogan Рік тому +2

    Do note, there are some keyers, that in addition to detecting green, they also check that the level of the BG red channel matches the BG blue channel. If the red and blue are not the same level, then don't key out. This allows working with green on the keep part of the image. Example, a soldier wearing green fatigues in front of a green screen.

  • @rossdanielart
    @rossdanielart 8 місяців тому +1

    ALso noteworthy is there is a cleanplate node which can artificially create a cleanplate by keying out the subject and filling in the hole with the surrounding green.

  • @vistek
    @vistek 7 днів тому

    Bravo to a well explained video! Thank you so much!

  • @assasin101011
    @assasin101011 Рік тому +2

    Wow, that's the most straightforward explanation I watch on UA-cam! Sub to you, sir.

  • @reyvaz2951
    @reyvaz2951 Рік тому +2

    You have a gift my friend, when someone knows how to deliver what's on their brain so other can learn from it, it stick on your brain for ever, I had a good teacher like that, when went for my GED, no one had a problem understanding, in fact, the English a know, its on part thanks to him, I'm from Puerto Rico. Thanks!

  • @Hi-HK
    @Hi-HK Рік тому

    I loved the way you explain things. It's very clear and easy to understand.

  • @rufitos
    @rufitos Рік тому

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:00 🎥 DaVinci Resolve videos include host intros and summaries. The raw footage needs keying and color correction.
    00:27 🎬 Introduction to the Edit tab and a preview of the green screen footage.
    00:55 🔧 The Fusion tab houses the tools to key the footage, highlighting the Ultra Keyer and the Delta Keyer.
    01:24 🎨 When using the Ultra Keyer, select a background color near the subject for a cleaner key.
    02:16 🔍 Viewing in Alpha channel mode helps identify transparency levels.
    02:43 📽️ The Delta Keyer assumes the presence of a clean plate - a background shot without the subject.
    03:38 🎛️ Delta Keyer has multiple inputs including a clean plate input, unlike Ultra Keyer.
    05:00 ✅ Using a clean plate in Delta Keyer results in a more uniform key, especially in corners.
    05:54 🧪 Demonstrating challenges faced with non-uniform green screen backgrounds.
    07:09 💡 Using scopes, one can visualize the variance in color across the green screen.
    08:33 🖌️ The ideal green screen is perfectly uniform across the entire screen, but in reality, this is rarely achieved.
    08:45 🌈 The Ultra Keyer selects a single green color to turn transparent.
    09:27 🚫 Issues arise on the left and right sides where the green is inconsistent.
    09:53 🧩 The Delta Keyer uses a clean plate to address color inconsistencies.
    10:22 🧮 Delta Keyer, named after the Greek letter Delta, subtracts pixel colors from the clean plate.
    11:14 ⚙️ The threshold control helps make almost-opaque pixels completely opaque and almost-transparent ones completely transparent.
    12:08 💡 Light bounce from subjects can introduce color inconsistencies.
    14:17 🏷️ Renaming nodes can help organize and differentiate between keying methods.
    14:47 🟢 "Spill" is the reflection of green light onto the subject from the green screen.
    15:12 🧼 Spill suppression tools help reduce the green reflection effects.
    16:37 📝 To use the Delta Keyer effectively, film a clean plate without subjects.
    17:02 🔍 With Ultra Keyer, more adjustments might be needed for a perfect key.
    Made with HARPA AI

  • @JohnHollands
    @JohnHollands 3 місяці тому

    I do a lot of greenscreen and don’t always shoot it. Sometimes footage arrives and I haven’t got a clean plate AND often the camera op will change lighting or exposure to get a “better” clean plate.
    At those times I find it useful to use the Ultra Keyes and adjust the threshold.
    Clean plates are troublesome in long form shows with different setups. I’ve had camera ops just shoot one (“here’s a shot of my screen”) as if we just wanted a sample.
    If you’re shooting just the one shot then, sure, the clean plate is easy.

  • @kostika1994
    @kostika1994 6 місяців тому

    up to 9 minutes of the video and you won a new subscriber!!! well done!! nice job!!

  • @PopoRamos
    @PopoRamos 9 місяців тому

    Nice! I will start using a clean plate from now on, definitely helps cut down on masking and retaining more details

  • @Solveiga555
    @Solveiga555 Рік тому +3

    WOW, amazing! Thank you so so much for such a thorough explanation!

  • @ROVideos
    @ROVideos 25 днів тому

    Excellent, Excellent video.
    Maybe explain the same thing once or twice as opposed to 3 or 4 or 5, we can rewind a few seconds if we didn't understand something.
    Other than that. VERY, VERY well explained, and very useful.

  • @rbroach68
    @rbroach68 8 місяців тому

    Great explanation of how to create and use a clean plate. You just changed my workflow. 🙂

  • @RednWhiteWorld
    @RednWhiteWorld Рік тому +1

    Great video, very easy to follow, thank you !

  • @javajack-1
    @javajack-1 5 місяців тому

    Good video. I am familiar with the Delta Keyer and was curious about the Ultra Keyer. I will stay with the Delta Keyer. One thing I do when I get to the threshold stage of my key is to slide the monitor gamma controls to make my viewer display quite a severe image of the background or foreground so I only use just enough threshold and don’t start losing detail like fine hair or transparency. I often put a noise reduction node before the Keyer and refrain at the end, if necessary.

  • @m_reis
    @m_reis 10 місяців тому

    Very very nice explanation!
    Thank you 😊

  • @CypiXmusic
    @CypiXmusic Рік тому +2

    Vastly helpful. Thanks

  • @MilitaryHistoryWithWill71
    @MilitaryHistoryWithWill71 7 місяців тому

    Extremely well presented, thank you. Subscribed.

  • @dougdina
    @dougdina 11 місяців тому

    Fantastic video. Very well explained.

  • @IlVolpiELaPandi
    @IlVolpiELaPandi 10 місяців тому

    Thank you Very very Much!
    Lovely done! I am looking forward to see more!!!

  • @altvideo
    @altvideo Рік тому

    Very clear explanation. Thanks. Subscribed.

  • @tobisreveng3170
    @tobisreveng3170 Місяць тому

    Global in out isn’t letting me stretch the clip 🙁

  • @ririlan2137
    @ririlan2137 Рік тому

    So well explained. One of the best. :))

  • @Docfly62
    @Docfly62 Рік тому +1

    So then what is the advantage of using the ultra keyer. Great video

    • @stanmanjam
      @stanmanjam Рік тому +1

      When you don't have a clean plate

    • @seanvideoediting
      @seanvideoediting 9 місяців тому

      ​@@stanmanjam but couldnt deltakeyer do what ultrakeyer does even without the cleanplate? There must be something special about ultrakeyer

    • @stanmanjam
      @stanmanjam 9 місяців тому

      @@seanvideoeditingIt looks that way, but ultrakeyer doesn't carry the overhead of processing a clean plate so it is (I'm assuming) more efficient in instances where you don't have one.

  • @niemandschuldet
    @niemandschuldet Рік тому

    Very interesting and helpful! Thanks

  • @TheSincioco
    @TheSincioco Рік тому

    Excellent video! Thanks for making it. ❤❤❤

  • @seanvideoediting
    @seanvideoediting 9 місяців тому

    How about 3d keyer and luma keyer?

  • @CHRIS_S54
    @CHRIS_S54 Рік тому

    Very helpful. Thank you kindly.

  • @tulpenboom6738
    @tulpenboom6738 Рік тому

    Thanks, very informative. How do these two compare to the 3D keyer in the Edit screen? This is the one I currently use (allows me to stay in the Edit screen).

  • @unet7292
    @unet7292 9 місяців тому

    That was very helpful, thank you very very very much!!!

  • @saturn_fpv
    @saturn_fpv Рік тому

    This is just two month old, but isn't it obsolete with magic mask?

    • @rowbyrowby
      @rowbyrowby 9 місяців тому

      It might be that “Magic Mask” might be more processor intensive. Someone would have to compare the two methods, just like this video did with Delta and Ultra. ….Rowby.

  • @ArcanePath360
    @ArcanePath360 8 місяців тому

    Great, thanks

  • @BrunoVilelaIS
    @BrunoVilelaIS Рік тому

    Thank you very much. Lots of information here thad I didn't knew.

  • @buzzdx
    @buzzdx Рік тому

    so delta keyer only works for static shots if you wanna use the cleanplate? kinda impossible (if your camera is not on some robot arm) to get the same movement twice.

    • @socraticafx
      @socraticafx  Рік тому +1

      Pretty much. I'd only use the delta keyer when the camera is locked down. I think Big studios do use robot arms to recreate camera motions with precision, but I doubt they are keying with a delta layer.

    • @rano12321
      @rano12321 Рік тому +1

      Not necessarily, you can use delta keyer for all types of shots as well. Make sure to use the clean plate node if you don't have a clean plate.

  • @sooflight
    @sooflight Рік тому +1

    Much cleaner! give thanks

  • @shuttersound-berlin
    @shuttersound-berlin 11 місяців тому

    Great Video!

  • @inMeditation_PSSM
    @inMeditation_PSSM Рік тому

    Very nice. Thank you

  • @achievefilmmakers110
    @achievefilmmakers110 Рік тому

    interesting . I am learning new things

  • @TANZANIAFILMMAKINGTV
    @TANZANIAFILMMAKINGTV Рік тому

    what do you click to get the box pop up to select Delta keyer?

    • @socraticafx
      @socraticafx  Рік тому +2

      The keyboard shortcut is SHIFT + SPACE. Hope this helps!

  • @TechnicalTerry
    @TechnicalTerry Рік тому

    If you’ve ever heard someone talk about “garbage masks”, cropping out the corners on the Ultra Keyer footage would be a good example. It can be used with any key, just mask out the areas you don’t want/need to key, so that you don’t have to work so hard with the key node. (The mask would be a node before the key). Easy for a talking head, much more difficult for moving actor.

  • @goonik
    @goonik 10 місяців тому

    полезно, но затянуто. молодец

  • @vfxhealing
    @vfxhealing Рік тому

    well explained // Best //

  • @KingZero69
    @KingZero69 7 місяців тому +1

    bro… why does that woman look like she’s in a HOSTAGE VIDEO… 😂

  • @havaranis
    @havaranis 11 місяців тому

    Why not use the 3d keyer?

  • @drumken
    @drumken Рік тому

    boring nonsense