Not really. This chipset is set until like next summer. It just depends on the other stuff. I don’t like the ally cause no trackpad. Someone else might want GPD for keyboard.
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 you underestimate the accessibility of touchpads, you probably just see it as a analog stick thats it. It can used as a dpad,stick,mouse,accessible radial menus etc. But hey if you prefer standard controller layout like the 90s go for it. Lol
It's interesting. I have a lot of spine damage and because of that using a controller causes extreme pain in my mid and upper back, shoulder blades and sides. So controllers pretty much ruin gaming for me now, where I used to love using them when I was young.
I love how we're being conditioned to be ok with extremely expensive handhelds. Before $399 was too much. Fast forward to now. "ITS ONLY $750 GUYS!!!" lol. fast forward a year or two "Its only $1200 guys!!!" Yeah no thanks. the shits still a handheld idgaf if it has 1tb storage. give us a low cost option and let us easily upgrade the storage with SSDs and SD cards since they're cheap af now.
I’m a very casual gamer. Mostly play DayZ and Pubg these days. I’m also still rocking the original Xbox One. I’m looking to finally replace that with something newer with the mindset that I’ll probably use whatever I replace it with for a long time as well. Do you think this will do the trick? How do you think games like the ones I mentioned would hold up? What about GTA6 when it comes out? Do you think this could take on all of the above? Keep in mind I’ve been on the XB1 for ten years so I’m not that picky.
If you dont mind I would recommend a series x or maybe a ps5 if you want to get into exclusives. If you are a casual their is no reason to buy an expensive handheld or pc. gta 6 will 100% run on the series x or ps5. The nice thing about the series x is that you also get the option to get gamepass.
Dude battery banks exist, and if your bringing that handheld with you on the go... your already bringing a backpack or bag, put a battery bank in it, get your self a 1.2 meter magnetically attaching USB C cable so you don't damage the port and use the battery bank as you go. To be fair those magnetically attaching cables and only ususally do 22 - 35W, but tha is going to at least extend your play time significantly.
I think if the pricings are correct, ASUS must be shiteting. And I agree that getting the 1TB upfront would be the most sensible decision, if you need the space. The NVMe M.2 2242 appears to be very scarce, thus probably will be more expensive.
tbh, I can see the 2242 go down in price, as the Legion go becomes more popular. 2280 was crazy expensive, until PS5 players bought them in droves. Same with 2230 until Steam Deck, then the Ally
@@kilki1234sorry I mean that Lenovo first said it has VRR…and they didn’t mention it has no VRR, not the people in this video since they explained it doesn’t which is a deal breaker for me.
You cant play and charge at the same time? Hope i can disable that. Sometimes i like to play while charging, leave the house, and game on the plane when i get down time from work while taking a business trip to get back to work lol
Do you mean a steam deck with OLED or actual steam deck with better hardware specs? Because the steam deck with better hardware specs is not coming for at least a few years. That's straight from the mouth of valve.
wait a sec, so you dont actually charge your battery if you play with that bypass? ok so i got that wrong then, this is great in case of battery and overheat management. This sound even better than i thought.
I already own an Ally but i put in a preorder for the lenovo just for the bigger screen, removable controllers, cleaner looking and hopefully improved software, and hopefully a working sd card slot. The Ally fits a lot of my needs but I prefer to play in bed next to my gf so having the lenovo on one of those tablet holders and being able to detach the controllers already seems like a huge win for my use case. It also might benefit slightly more in performance due to the bigger size that should cool the chip off faster and sustain the clock frequencies higher as well as the slightly faster ram installed.
It’s $749. With tax it’s $794.00. Free Expedited shipping if your Lenovo Member. I preordered 3 hours after preorder went live..expected delivery is pushed back to December 18😅😢! Good luck!
If you want 4k ultra or 120 fps 165 fps then yes you do. I have ROG ally brand new doesn't mean I don't prefer my PC when at home. I passed on the legion go. early adopters have issues.
the deck still has the most superior layout, But with out windows its to limited. If thats all you care about than its perfect. A lot of people want windows for many reasons. But yeah, Steam still has the best layout.
The idea behind fixed 144hz refresh rate is that a missed frame update from the game will be shorter because the time between screen refreshes is lower
I wouldn't buy anything till there is a steam os for windows and / or a new os that gives a console experience first a pc second. The experience with handhelds will be to similar until this is addressed. Same problems same bug's ects.
@kevinbuchanan67 yeah thats what I'm saying handheld hardware is ruff if not done, right on Windows . And yes, steam os is a thing, but for linux. You can install it on other hardware, but it loses some things if installed on the wrong hardware.
Bigger screen doesn’t matter. It has higher latency. Far worse colors. Doesn’t have the basic function of vrr. The only thing that’s good is the detachable controllers. No the slightly higher speed ram won’t effect anything in gaming. The difference between 4000 to 5600 ram is literally nothing never mind the tiny difference between the ally and it. The ally will always be vastly more fluid with vrr.
@@technicallyme it used to be only an option in the bios prior to a couple updates ago. You'll need to restart it after. This is common knowledge for apu systems though
in the league footage that was there months ago it said there was going to be VRR in the actual system but unless they can mod the system or someone can change the system software to run at that this system really isn't that impressive compared to their competitors Not every Tripoli game can be run at one 144 Hertz Plus the absolute mess they have caused with trying to get the systems out to customers
Yes, it’s not necessarily better than ally either, you can just buy an sd card you don’t have to buy an ssd. The device is also to big to be considered portable
Yeah it goes max 25w when they tested it in tech video so no idea why they baited with 48w in the video intro. Plus no VRR and they compared it to the ROG Ally and it made a huge difference to a lot of AAA games.
Depends if you want to play single player or fast paste competitive mp. Single players are good at 60 but competitive fast paste require higher fps and some games won't hit over 100fps. They will hover around 70-90fps and may drop as low as 60fps so vrr helps in that case.
@@TheRabanetesi mean the nintendo switch is one of the best selling handhelds of all time and that bs doesn’t have any redeeming qualities other than nintendo games which can be cracked and the detachable controllers which the legion go does now
I feel like as soon as I buy this something better will come out just around the corner
Tale as old as the iPhone lol
Not really. This chipset is set until like next summer. It just depends on the other stuff. I don’t like the ally cause no trackpad. Someone else might want GPD for keyboard.
This not iphone mate😂
Trackpads are useless when you have an entire screen that's a multi input touch screen. This isn't the 90s
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 you underestimate the accessibility of touchpads, you probably just see it as a analog stick thats it. It can used as a dpad,stick,mouse,accessible radial menus etc. But hey if you prefer standard controller layout like the 90s go for it. Lol
I think the fps mode was made thinking about the lenovo glasses. The fps mode while using the "vr" glasses should be a really nice experience
Had no idea Tom Segura was into handheld gaming. Great discussion fellas.
Good morning, Julia
Where are the bodies Garth?
Show me how those big sticks fart
10:03 he's just gutted he's not getting a free device
Notice that, he started saying all shit after that. 😂
Yep many of these reviewers go on personal vendettas when they don't get free stuff as they feel entitled too. It's ridiculous
Moonlight can stream at 120hz. I've been doing this to stream to my 120hz phone with a razer kishi controller. It's buttery smooth.
Exactly.
This better be my daily drive pc
It's interesting. I have a lot of spine damage and because of that using a controller causes extreme pain in my mid and upper back, shoulder blades and sides. So controllers pretty much ruin gaming for me now, where I used to love using them when I was young.
I love how we're being conditioned to be ok with extremely expensive handhelds. Before $399 was too much. Fast forward to now. "ITS ONLY $750 GUYS!!!" lol. fast forward a year or two "Its only $1200 guys!!!" Yeah no thanks. the shits still a handheld idgaf if it has 1tb storage. give us a low cost option and let us easily upgrade the storage with SSDs and SD cards since they're cheap af now.
I absolutely use the mouse mode to play Wii emulation games with pointer needed
Is there any other product besides this one and the switch that offers detachable controller? Thanks
eGPU support should allow for higher fps to reach those refresh rates
I’m a very casual gamer. Mostly play DayZ and Pubg these days. I’m also still rocking the original Xbox One. I’m looking to finally replace that with something newer with the mindset that I’ll probably use whatever I replace it with for a long time as well. Do you think this will do the trick? How do you think games like the ones I mentioned would hold up? What about GTA6 when it comes out? Do you think this could take on all of the above? Keep in mind I’ve been on the XB1 for ten years so I’m not that picky.
If you dont mind I would recommend a series x or maybe a ps5 if you want to get into exclusives. If you are a casual their is no reason to buy an expensive handheld or pc. gta 6 will 100% run on the series x or ps5. The nice thing about the series x is that you also get the option to get gamepass.
Great video 2 of my favorite channels
Currently, memory controllers in Windows 11 can't really use anything more 6,000 transfers ATM.
shame with missing vrr. but pixel exact in half ratio 1280x800 16/10 with 60fps. I dont think it will that big a problem.
I preordered the 512 model because I have a 2tb from my ally i had.
almost sounds too good to be true lol, surely theres gotta be some kind of trade off
Dude battery banks exist, and if your bringing that handheld with you on the go... your already bringing a backpack or bag, put a battery bank in it, get your self a 1.2 meter magnetically attaching USB C cable so you don't damage the port and use the battery bank as you go. To be fair those magnetically attaching cables and only ususally do 22 - 35W, but tha is going to at least extend your play time significantly.
Smart man. I do this too
I think if the pricings are correct, ASUS must be shiteting.
And I agree that getting the 1TB upfront would be the most sensible decision, if you need the space.
The NVMe M.2 2242 appears to be very scarce, thus probably will be more expensive.
tbh, I can see the 2242 go down in price, as the Legion go becomes more popular. 2280 was crazy expensive, until PS5 players bought them in droves. Same with 2230 until Steam Deck, then the Ally
Why? Because of more space for 100 more?
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271
IIRC the 1TB is an extra USD50, not 100.
I wonder if one of those 2280 adapter can fit
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Yes, will have to see whether there is space for the longer 2280 SSD.
ive pre order the lenovo go
The thing is, they didn’t mention no VRR…which to me is a deal breaker after seeing comparisons to the ROG Ally. It makes a huge difference
Did you watch the video? They literally spoke of no vrr for like 5 minutes
@@kilki1234sorry I mean that Lenovo first said it has VRR…and they didn’t mention it has no VRR, not the people in this video since they explained it doesn’t which is a deal breaker for me.
You cant play and charge at the same time? Hope i can disable that. Sometimes i like to play while charging, leave the house, and game on the plane when i get down time from work while taking a business trip to get back to work lol
It's an option, but we'll have these in hand at the end of the month.
Steamdeck 2 is gonna be great...and yeah we want a bigger screan
Do you mean a steam deck with OLED or actual steam deck with better hardware specs? Because the steam deck with better hardware specs is not coming for at least a few years. That's straight from the mouth of valve.
wait a sec, so you dont actually charge your battery if you play with that bypass? ok so i got that wrong then, this is great in case of battery and overheat management. This sound even better than i thought.
I already own an Ally but i put in a preorder for the lenovo just for the bigger screen, removable controllers, cleaner looking and hopefully improved software, and hopefully a working sd card slot. The Ally fits a lot of my needs but I prefer to play in bed next to my gf so having the lenovo on one of those tablet holders and being able to detach the controllers already seems like a huge win for my use case. It also might benefit slightly more in performance due to the bigger size that should cool the chip off faster and sustain the clock frequencies higher as well as the slightly faster ram installed.
It’s $749. With tax it’s $794.00. Free Expedited shipping if your Lenovo Member. I preordered 3 hours after preorder went live..expected delivery is pushed back to December 18😅😢! Good luck!
If you want 4k ultra or 120 fps 165 fps then yes you do. I have ROG ally brand new doesn't mean I don't prefer my PC when at home. I passed on the legion go. early adopters have issues.
This is why I am happy with my deck. The next one will address all these short comings from the other handhelds.
Please
the deck still has the most superior layout, But with out windows its to limited. If thats all you care about than its perfect. A lot of people want windows for many reasons. But yeah, Steam still has the best layout.
Reasons?@@craigshandworld
@@craigshandworld yep, yep, and yep
The 1 TB version will be 750.
1tb still seems a bit small. I've got a 2tb in my onexplayer 2 and looking at upgrading to a 4tb.
damn brother, your adhd must be real 😅
@parkerhazen6203 lol. How'd you know? Can't stick to a hobby always switching.
@@ivana6141 lol same
🙄
1tb is more than enough.
I heard it does not have VRR?
Correct
The idea behind fixed 144hz refresh rate is that a missed frame update from the game will be shorter because the time between screen refreshes is lower
I wouldn't buy anything till there is a steam os for windows and / or a new os that gives a console experience first a pc second. The experience with handhelds will be to similar until this is addressed. Same problems same bug's ects.
There is, it's called steam. Windows is better
@kevinbuchanan67 yeah thats what I'm saying handheld hardware is ruff if not done, right on Windows . And yes, steam os is a thing, but for linux. You can install it on other hardware, but it loses some things if installed on the wrong hardware.
Will i be able to attach a external gpu?
Yes
Bigger screen doesn’t matter. It has higher latency. Far worse colors. Doesn’t have the basic function of vrr. The only thing that’s good is the detachable controllers. No the slightly higher speed ram won’t effect anything in gaming. The difference between 4000 to 5600 ram is literally nothing never mind the tiny difference between the ally and it. The ally will always be vastly more fluid with vrr.
Can a external eGPU be used with it like the ally
Yes
How would that look and what are the benefits of doing that? New to this stuff
Not 48W.
I recently found out that the memory in my rog ally had to be set manually instead of shared. Is the Lenovo the same?
You're setting how much is shared. There's no dedicated vram
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 yes but by default it’s 4 Gb which wouldn’t let me play ratchet and clank
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271I honestly didn’t see the setting for a long time.
@@technicallyme it used to be only an option in the bios prior to a couple updates ago. You'll need to restart it after. This is common knowledge for apu systems though
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 thanks that’s good to know. Is it this way in the steam deck?
Gentlemen, Doom at 144 hz will be NO JOKE!!
It's not gonna run it at 144
So it can go from 0%to70% in 30 minutes, does anyone know how long it is from 0% to 100%?
All lithium batteries work the same. 0-20 and 80-100 is the slowest. 20-80 is fastest. Even in a tesla
You never want to fully charge l-ion batteries. You damage them charging them over 85% or letting them go below 15%
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Oh really? I thought they said you could charge them to 95%, but not to 100% so your battery would last longer over time.
No VRR, portrait tablet screen, 144hz not great for emulation? No thanks. Sticking with my Deck
Does the steam deck's monitor have vrr? Also the legion go's refresh rate can be switched to 60hz.
in the league footage that was there months ago it said there was going to be VRR in the actual system but unless they can mod the system or someone can change the system software to run at that this system really isn't that impressive compared to their competitors Not every Tripoli game can be run at one 144 Hertz Plus the absolute mess they have caused with trying to get the systems out to customers
VRR anyday.
In europe rog ally is 799e. Does that mean legion go is 899e?
Already listed in some stores at 799e atleast in Finland
Yes, it’s not necessarily better than ally either, you can just buy an sd card you don’t have to buy an ssd. The device is also to big to be considered portable
@@dustind.291 bro what? too big to be portable?
you trippin
@@just_HAZEN lol carry in that in your hands for 3 hours and tell me how you feel
@@dustind.291it's perfect in size for triple aaa games and media consumption.
Ally is useless more then 2 ft away from your face.
Steam controller on steam deck is op, js
I wonder about the os is it windows
Yes
Bro is trippen about the mouse mode. 1v1 me on cod and I'll show you why it's better
😂
Except is not 48w sad
Yeah it goes max 25w when they tested it in tech video so no idea why they baited with 48w in the video intro. Plus no VRR and they compared it to the ROG Ally and it made a huge difference to a lot of AAA games.
I wish there was a solution for left handed weirdos like me.
Go paint a picture or push a hoop down the road with a stick
@ricksanchez7250 done and done. Still no left-handed mice.
Put the mouse in your left hand. Go into the options and set the buttons to be the opposite. Profit
So is no VRR a immediate deal breaker?
Only if you regret buying your ally.
Then yes. Yes your petty
Depends if you want to play single player or fast paste competitive mp. Single players are good at 60 but competitive fast paste require higher fps and some games won't hit over 100fps. They will hover around 70-90fps and may drop as low as 60fps so vrr helps in that case.
So you can’t play that kind of games with steam deck… Because a lot of people is saying that’s a deal break and steam deck continues to sell
@@TheRabanetesi mean the nintendo switch is one of the best selling handhelds of all time and that bs doesn’t have any redeeming qualities other than nintendo games which can be cracked and the detachable controllers which the legion go does now
I hope they just forgot to mention about the VRR lately 😝
Is it something they could update later. Is it tied to the hardware? Hmmm
It's a portrait screen that cannot do VRR.
@@Jakcoonincorrect, Lenovo on their recent AMA confirmed it is in fact a landscape display, not portrait.
Ally is the only one with VRR
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