Hey guys thought I’d share my info as I felt it was hard to get the right info for myself I hope it helps. I got the 720 battery and I used it with my res med air mini for 5 nights camping and it still wasn’t flat. My pressure is 9.6 and average sleep was 7/8 hours per night. I got home before it went flat thanks guys it’s a great product and shipped up to me quick in northern nsw
Hi Nick - I have a MEDISTROM Pilot 24 Light battery and use it with my Airsense 10 Elite. Have only used it a few times during blackouts. In Feb 22 Planning to go off grid camping (no 240v power available). I have a small generator but was wondering if you can recommend a compatible solar power charger that works with the cords etc.? Love your work mate.
Nicko, please let us know when these batteries will be available in USA. What amazes me about these batteries is the 5000 charge cycles. That is incredible. Thanks for all of your great videos.
Thanks for this video. One thing to look into: I used a standard lithium, 12 volt battery pack, but because of the chemistry of the cells used, these battery packs deliver between 9 and 12.6 volts. The Z2 portable cpap automatically shuts down if it drops even a small about below 12 volts after about a minute (it seems like this is programmed into the firmware rather than an electrical limitation), so it means it uses only a small fraction of the useful power of such packs. I solved this by adding a 9-14 volt to constant 15 volt step up booster (about $15 dollars). Note that the power adapter for the Z2 is actually 15 volts, not 12. So my suggestion is that one measures the actual output voltage on each of these when it is almost fully discharged and make sure it is actually above 12 volts, otherwise they won't give all of their potential battery duration (or add a booster as I did) especially if it is used on a Z2 or similar device.
Hi Gary, we have a similar cable that we sometimes provide with the Z2 :-). It's actually designed to run off 14v from memory but most fine that 12 works just fine. Cheers brother. Nicko
Gary, these battery packs use LiFePO4 batteries. Their discharge voltage curve is different than standard lithium batteries. LiFePO4 batteries tend to keep their voltage high until they almost run out of charge. Note that for lithium based batteries, LiFePO4 are much less likely to have a thermal runaway. Their only drawback is they hold a little less charge per kilogram.
I got stuck without Power recently and had to sleep without my Air sense 10. I wish I had a battery! I want something to power my air sense 10 with the humidifier.
I have a renogy 72000 mAh battery like yours and it worked great for awhile....Dc outlet stopped working and the DC input/output only worked 20 min at 24v and the USB-C only worked for 10min before dropping power to my air mini. Think something is bad inside as the cables are Resmed for the mini. Put order in for an Exp Pro 48Pro battery on amazon and it shows it works with many cpaps including the mjni.
From what I understand, the bigger two 720 and 360 are not Li-ion (Lithium ion). They are LiFePO (Lithium Iron Phosphate). You seem to call them both. They are one or the other and can't be both unless my lurnin' mislead me. LiFePO are great batteries with their extended life of thousands of drain/recharge. They last many nights of use as well. They are the best type of lithium to have for a camping or blackout battery.
Hi Nicko I'm so glad you have a product I have been looking for. My last Remed powerpack doesn't work with Airsense 10. In any case wanted to PLEASE ask you if you could (and have a bit of time), let me know why has it happened to me a few times now that all of a sudden my machine stops. I don't have leaks nor is there a power failure so I'm at a loss to understand. I have taken the machine to where I bought it but they can't elucidate either. I would appreciate your input, thank you.
Hi Syliva, intermittent cpap faults are sometimes hard to diagnose but i would certainly try switching off the 'auto off' function on the AS10 as these auto ON/OFF features can sometimes be the cause of such issues. Best wishes my friend. Nicko
Worth mentioning is that you can't take any of these on a plane without having to get a dangerous goods operator approval from the airline. Anything under 100Wh doesn't require approval.
Does that mean I can take on board plane with approval? I like the look of the 360 (although hiking with extra 3 kilos…..) but if I can’t travel with it then no good. Have looked on airline website, not that informative and they seem like they haven’t updated in last couple of years (one mentions latest resumed as S8)
@@gibo1971 You really need to check the specific airline's rules on batteries and if the destination has any extra rules. For Qantas if it's 100Wh - 160Wh then it should get approval but must be carry on. Over 160Wh is a hard no.
@@ianc2091 yeah mate, all 24v machines but they have different input connections on the cpap machines so would need to get the cable to run from your battery to the cpap or do some surgery on your current dc cable to change the tip to suit 😉
Hello Max Re: Camping with a CPAP using humidifier and heated hose. I have a ResMed AirCurve 10 and must use the heated hose with humidifier therapy or suffer severe nose bleeds. I also have a Fisher&Paykel ICON+Premo CPAP for back-up. What battery would give me a solid eight hours of sleep using humidifier and heated hose. Thanks, Rob
I bought the 720 last week and I plugged in the shirt dc lead to my air mini and follow the steps you showed on the video but mine turns off after about 5 minutes of running, please help
Hi Nico I have purchased the airpro 360 and I was just wondering if the battery is lithium ion I can’t find anywhere in your video where you said what type of battery it is. Thank you
Hi Nicko, I have the AirPro 720, used it for the first time last night with a Resmed Air Mini. Worked for 45 minutes and turned off. Turned it back on and it worked for 15 minutes, turned it back on and it worked for 5 minutes. Gave up plugged the Air Mini into 240 V. No problem - Where do I go from here? Regards Bruce
@@lathamciallella1288 Latham - No to Resmed they didn’t have a clue but yes to Remsleep (the battery supplier). The issue is with the battery, it hiccups (best way I can describe it) on the 24 volt and send the incorrect sine wave or similar. The airpro does not like it and shuts off. Resmed swapped the battery for the Medistrom Pilot - 24 Lite. It is smaller but puts out a constant 24 volts and works perfectly with the AirPro 720. I get 2 full nights on one charge of the battery. The down side is you can only charge it with 240 volts using the power cord for the Resmed Airsense 10. Hope that helps.
Hey Uncle Nicko, I am considering the purchase of the AirPro 720 for my Resmed AirSense10, the question I have can I have the CPAP connected and pwoered at the same time as charging the 720? The idea it being a UPS of sorts to so if the power goes out at home I can continue to sleep without worrying about the power.
I have a Fisher & Paykel sleepstyle and these batteries or any batteries it seems are not compatible to my CPAP. What else do I need to make it work for my sleepstyle machine? Cheers
Nicko, Looking at the AirPro 720. Can it be used in a back up mode where it is being charged by 240V and powering the CPAP at the same time so it automatically continues to power the CPAP if the power fails? This would make an ideal automatic power backup system in the event of a power outage even at home.
Help! I was diagnosed with very severe sleep apnea (up to 94 episodes an hour). I was given an Airsense 11 by my medical group several months ago. Whenever it is windy or rainy in Los Angeles, the power goes out. This CPAP does not use any of the standard attachments that allow a 24 volt input so I need a 110 volt pure sine wave lithium battery. From my research, I need about a 1000 watt unit to get up to 8 hours of continue use without humidifier. (a decent one runs from one to two thousand dollars). Is that what you are finding? Has anyone found a cheaper alternative for the Airsense 11?
Doesn't ResMed make a 12 volt DC to 24 volt DC converter for the Airsense 11? If so, you can connect your converter to a 12volt battery to power your CPAP. Capacity of battery determines how many nights CPAP can run before battery needs charging. I'm getting 3 nights CPAP with two 12 volt 18 amp hour SLA batteries, connected in parallel, for 36 amp hours. That is with humidifier and heated hose features shut off. I use a 12 volt Battery Minder smart trickle charger to charge and maintain batteries. Do your homework before choosing a battery backup setup.
@@CPAPReviews so does that mean I'd need AC to DC inverter or DC to AC inverter, and can you recommend one.I have F&P as well and don't know anything about this stuff. All I know us the power is going out over night in just over a week haha
That 720 may put out 24v but it's prolly worth calling out that's only at 2amps. The ResMed10 needs 3.2 so, if that's what you're looking to power you'll be disappointed.
Potentially the AirPro 180 but you would have to check with your airline. They are designed more for camping / caravanning rather than air travel. Cheers
Have an Airsense 11... If you use the heated tube/ humidifier, how much more of a draw is that? Could you get one night like out of the 720 do you think ?
Hi Warren, yeah you could but the heated tube and humid would need to be low. Here's a link to all the current draw tables - document.resmed.com/documents/articles/198103_battery-guide_glo_eng.pdf
Hey guys thought I’d share my info as I felt it was hard to get the right info for myself I hope it helps.
I got the 720 battery and I used it with my res med air mini for 5 nights camping and it still wasn’t flat.
My pressure is 9.6 and average sleep was 7/8 hours per night.
I got home before it went flat thanks guys it’s a great product and shipped up to me quick in northern nsw
The 720 looks like an amazing unit. Cheers Nicko!
They're all pretty cool Kath but yeah certainly has a few bells and whistles that one haha ;-). Cheers
GOT THE JACKERY 500 I LIKE IT WITH 100 WATT SOLAR
Wow, that was powerful! Let’s hope these batteries don’t contain any foam.
Haha, they run very quiet without the need for foam ;-). Cheers
Hi Nick - I have a MEDISTROM Pilot 24 Light battery and use it with my Airsense 10 Elite. Have only used it a few times during blackouts.
In Feb 22 Planning to go off grid camping (no 240v power available). I have a small generator but was wondering if you can recommend a compatible solar power charger that works with the cords etc.?
Love your work mate.
Great information that I just learned about.. thanks!
Thank you :)
Good job, Nick!
Cheers mate
Hey Nicko.
I expected that bolt of lightning to come down and strike a DS1 ....hahah
Great video.
Looking up the battery now!!!
Cheers
Hi Robyn, haha, i don't think it could damage it any more than it already is ;-). Cheers. Nicko
Nicko, please let us know when these batteries will be available in USA. What amazes me about these batteries is the 5000 charge cycles. That is incredible. Thanks for all of your great videos.
Thanks Ed, yeah a lot of very cool tech in these battery systems. Hopefully before the end of the year my friend :-). Nicko
Thanks for this video. One thing to look into: I used a standard lithium, 12 volt battery pack, but because of the chemistry of the cells used, these battery packs deliver between 9 and 12.6 volts. The Z2 portable cpap automatically shuts down if it drops even a small about below 12 volts after about a minute (it seems like this is programmed into the firmware rather than an electrical limitation), so it means it uses only a small fraction of the useful power of such packs. I solved this by adding a 9-14 volt to constant 15 volt step up booster (about $15 dollars). Note that the power adapter for the Z2 is actually 15 volts, not 12.
So my suggestion is that one measures the actual output voltage on each of these when it is almost fully discharged and make sure it is actually above 12 volts, otherwise they won't give all of their potential battery duration (or add a booster as I did) especially if it is used on a Z2 or similar device.
Hi Gary, we have a similar cable that we sometimes provide with the Z2 :-). It's actually designed to run off 14v from memory but most fine that 12 works just fine. Cheers brother. Nicko
Gary, these battery packs use LiFePO4 batteries. Their discharge voltage curve is different than standard lithium batteries. LiFePO4 batteries tend to keep their voltage high until they almost run out of charge. Note that for lithium based batteries, LiFePO4 are much less likely to have a thermal runaway. Their only drawback is they hold a little less charge per kilogram.
I got stuck without Power recently and had to sleep without my Air sense 10. I wish I had a battery! I want something to power my air sense 10 with the humidifier.
I have a renogy 72000 mAh battery like yours and it worked great for awhile....Dc outlet stopped working and the DC input/output only worked 20 min at 24v and the USB-C only worked for 10min before dropping power to my air mini. Think something is bad inside as the cables are Resmed for the mini. Put order in for an Exp Pro 48Pro battery on amazon and it shows it works with many cpaps including the mjni.
From what I understand, the bigger two 720 and 360 are not Li-ion (Lithium ion).
They are LiFePO (Lithium Iron Phosphate).
You seem to call them both. They are one or the other and can't be both unless my lurnin' mislead me.
LiFePO are great batteries with their extended life of thousands of drain/recharge. They last many nights of use as well. They are the best type of lithium to have for a camping or blackout battery.
Hi Nicko I'm so glad you have a product I have been looking for. My last Remed powerpack doesn't work with Airsense 10. In any case wanted to PLEASE ask you if you could (and have a bit of time), let me know why has it happened to me a few times now that all of a sudden my machine stops. I don't have leaks nor is there a power failure so I'm at a loss to understand. I have taken the machine to where I bought it but they can't elucidate either. I would appreciate your input, thank you.
Hi Syliva, intermittent cpap faults are sometimes hard to diagnose but i would certainly try switching off the 'auto off' function on the AS10 as these auto ON/OFF features can sometimes be the cause of such issues. Best wishes my friend. Nicko
Thank you Nicko I'll try that.
Worth mentioning is that you can't take any of these on a plane without having to get a dangerous goods operator approval from the airline. Anything under 100Wh doesn't require approval.
Sorry no ones been flying here for the last two years. Forgot that 😂🍻
Does that mean I can take on board plane with approval? I like the look of the 360 (although hiking with extra 3 kilos…..) but if I can’t travel with it then no good. Have looked on airline website, not that informative and they seem like they haven’t updated in last couple of years (one mentions latest resumed as S8)
@@gibo1971 You really need to check the specific airline's rules on batteries and if the destination has any extra rules. For Qantas if it's 100Wh - 160Wh then it should get approval but must be carry on. Over 160Wh is a hard no.
G’day Nick. I brought a battery for my S9. Would that work with Airsense 10 or 11? Cheers
@@ianc2091 yeah mate, all 24v machines but they have different input connections on the cpap machines so would need to get the cable to run from your battery to the cpap or do some surgery on your current dc cable to change the tip to suit 😉
Hello Max
Re: Camping with a CPAP using humidifier and heated hose.
I have a ResMed AirCurve 10 and must use the heated hose with humidifier therapy or suffer severe nose bleeds.
I also have a Fisher&Paykel ICON+Premo CPAP for back-up.
What battery would give me a solid eight hours of sleep using humidifier and heated hose.
Thanks,
Rob
Why is this not available(RemSleep AirPro 360 LiFePO4 CPAP Battery) in New Zealand
Hello
I have this battery but it keeps turning off with propriety lead and the cigarette plug, I have an air mini
I bought the 720 last week and I plugged in the shirt dc lead to my air mini and follow the steps you showed on the video but mine turns off after about 5 minutes of running, please help
Fantastic! I'm desperate to buy a Z2 Auto, any news on delivery?
Are these units the same as the Renogy units?
Hi Nico I have purchased the airpro 360 and I was just wondering if the battery is lithium ion I can’t find anywhere in your video where you said what type of battery it is. Thank you
they're LiFePO4 mate
@@CPAPReviews thanks Nico
Welcome legend
Thanks!
Can this be purchased in US?
Hi Nicko, I have the AirPro 720, used it for the first time last night with a Resmed Air Mini. Worked for 45 minutes and turned off. Turned it back on and it worked for 15 minutes, turned it back on and it worked for 5 minutes. Gave up plugged the Air Mini into 240 V. No problem - Where do I go from here? Regards Bruce
Hi Bruce. I am experiencing the same. Were you able to get this resolved with assistance from RemSleep?
@@lathamciallella1288 Latham - No to Resmed they didn’t have a clue but yes to Remsleep (the battery supplier). The issue is with the battery, it hiccups (best way I can describe it) on the 24 volt and send the incorrect sine wave or similar. The airpro does not like it and shuts off. Resmed swapped the battery for the Medistrom Pilot - 24 Lite. It is smaller but puts out a constant 24 volts and works perfectly with the AirPro 720. I get 2 full nights on one charge of the battery. The down side is you can only charge it with 240 volts using the power cord for the Resmed Airsense 10. Hope that helps.
@@lathamciallella1288 sorry REMSLEEP replaced the battery not Resmed 😬
@@brucesoding9627 Thanks Bruce. I'm glad it was resolved for you
@@brucesoding9627I am having the same issue what was the fix?
14:01 can we purchase these batteries in the USA? If not, please recommend another brand that’s worth buying.
Would it run 2 air sense 11 with humidifiers and heated hoses?
looks great! would be cool when going hiking with my bike! are they available for europe ?
What's the size of the DC input/output barrel?
2.1 mm dc output jack and also the 12V cigarette jacks. Cheers
I have the ResMed AirSense 10 unit you show. Do you have a link where I can get the 12V to 24V adapter you show here?
Hey Uncle Nicko, I am considering the purchase of the AirPro 720 for my Resmed AirSense10, the question I have can I have the CPAP connected and pwoered at the same time as charging the 720? The idea it being a UPS of sorts to so if the power goes out at home I can continue to sleep without worrying about the power.
have you tried to connect two battery dc to dc or usb c to usb c to make one big battery?
I have a Fisher & Paykel sleepstyle and these batteries or any batteries it seems are not compatible to my CPAP. What else do I need to make it work for my sleepstyle machine? Cheers
I bought one of these for use with my Philips System One 60. A voice from the battery said, "Dude, WTF are you doing wasting my time with this POS?".
Hahahah, Classic mate!
Nicko, Looking at the AirPro 720. Can it be used in a back up mode where it is being charged by 240V and powering the CPAP at the same time so it automatically continues to power the CPAP if the power fails? This would make an ideal automatic power backup system in the event of a power outage even at home.
Any reviews for batteries in the states or are these now available here?
Any updates on Sleeplay carrying these?
Help! I was diagnosed with very severe sleep apnea (up to 94 episodes an hour). I was given an Airsense 11 by my medical group several months ago. Whenever it is windy or rainy in Los Angeles, the power goes out. This CPAP does not use any of the standard attachments that allow a 24 volt input so I need a 110 volt pure sine wave lithium battery. From my research, I need about a 1000 watt unit to get up to 8 hours of continue use without humidifier. (a decent one runs from one to two thousand dollars). Is that what you are finding? Has anyone found a cheaper alternative for the Airsense 11?
Doesn't ResMed make a 12 volt DC to 24 volt DC converter for the Airsense 11? If so, you can connect your converter to a 12volt battery to power your CPAP. Capacity of battery determines how many nights CPAP can run before battery needs charging. I'm getting 3 nights CPAP with two 12 volt 18 amp hour SLA batteries, connected in parallel, for 36 amp hours. That is with humidifier and heated hose features shut off. I use a 12 volt Battery Minder smart trickle charger to charge and maintain batteries. Do your homework before choosing a battery backup setup.
Hi nick,
My question is “would this portable battery packs that you are showing be able to use with fisher and paykel SleepStyle cpap machine “??
You would need an inverter. F&P don't work on DC current only AC (ie your wall socket). Cheers
@@CPAPReviews thank you
@@CPAPReviews so does that mean I'd need AC to DC inverter or DC to AC inverter, and can you recommend one.I have F&P as well and don't know anything about this stuff. All I know us the power is going out over night in just over a week haha
Can you run an auto cpap on these batteries or will they only work with fixed pressure .
Hi Deb, they work well with any cpap model :). Cheers
❤are you guys giving one away?
That 720 may put out 24v but it's prolly worth calling out that's only at 2amps. The ResMed10 needs 3.2 so, if that's what you're looking to power you'll be disappointed.
Not with humidifier or heated tube mate. All pressures well under 2amps. document.resmed.com/documents/articles/198103_battery-guide_glo_eng.pdf
where can u buy these batteries here in Australia?
Hey mate, head on over to - www.remsleep.com.au/power/ . I believe coupon code CPAPReviews should also work during checkout ;-). Cheers
thanks mate
why does the air mini use 24V?
The motor is a 24v motor
Can these be recharged on a inverter generator
Hi there, yes. You can basically charge them any which way you like. Cheers
Can you bring any of these batteries on airplane?
Potentially the AirPro 180 but you would have to check with your airline. They are designed more for camping / caravanning rather than air travel.
Cheers
@@CPAPReviews Thank's Nick.
Have an Airsense 11... If you use the heated tube/ humidifier, how much more of a draw is that? Could you get one night like out of the 720 do you think ?
Hi Warren, yeah you could but the heated tube and humid would need to be low. Here's a link to all the current draw tables - document.resmed.com/documents/articles/198103_battery-guide_glo_eng.pdf
Can this be carried in flight ?
i believe the max battery allowed by TSA is 30k mah, i am looking for a solution that will be TSA approved as well