How to camp off grid with a CPAP
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2020
- This video reviews the Jackery 300, 500 and 1000 units. I compare the run times of a humidified CPAP on each unit- which one is right for you?
Jackery 300
Weight: 7.1 #
Dimensions: 9.1 x 5.2 x 7.8 in
DC input - wall charger, car charger and solar panels
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Matt, Nice Video, just a note most CPAP's have a 12 volt plug/adapter option that uses much less power due to not needing the inverter power overhead and the power brick converting AC to DC. Looks like the CPAP you tested was drawing 42 watts with AC, with DC mine draws 27 watts - so the 300 would likely get 8 hours when powering with DC instead of AC. Also in an emergency turning off the humidifier will save additional power. Thanks again for the video.
Tom Raidna good to know they don’t have that option.
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Thank you for the information. I have a Resmed Air Curve 10 I’m hoping to get at least 8 hours with one of these battery packs. Jackery looks nice but I also like the EcoFlow River 600. I would turn off the humidifier and get a DC adapter for my Bipap. The only issue I have is multiple nights without an outlet to recharge. Do these offer a way to recharge with a cigarette car outlet? Not just a wall outlet.
@@Cloudiroth123 get an inverter for your car battery. It hooks onto your car battery and you can plug 🔌 your portable battery to charge it. It does take an hour or so to charge but it's better than having no other option.
@@Cloudiroth123 Hey! I own a Bluetti EB55 and Resmed Aircurve 10. I got a full 7 nights from using the DC conveter from Resmed. Of course I had the humidifier and climate control turned off.
I use a Philips System One and the 500 and get a full night's use without drawing the battery way down. I use 12v plug and don't use the humidifier, which uses a lot of power.
The humidifier doesn't really take that much power, the thing that draws the most power is the temperature plate for your water reservoir. If your CPAP/APAP model allows you to turn the temp off, but leave the humidifier on, you'll see a big savings in energy use while keeping yourself from getting cottonmouth. It is the temperature plate which warms the water in your water reservoir that draws the most energy.
Agreed! My Jackery 200 was more than enough. This review is very false
@@Lesbianporn101 he probably had heater on. Power use on that depends on exterior temp also. I use my cpap in a remote way often (300 + days a year) I dont use my humidifier /heater shen on battery and also use 12 volt adapter. I can run very little 10% or less of a 300. With heater ( if I forget to turn it off) it will wake me up when it shuts down in 3 -4 hours. Once again depends on ampbient temp.
I quit using the humidifier years ago. I'm wondering if I should start back?
Thank you. This is the exact reason I was searching for the best device for my CPAP.
Thank you! I've searching all over the net for the exact advice you gave. Much appreciated.
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful.
Great video! I have a cpap and have been considering a Jackery. This was very informative.
exact video I was looking for . thank you !!!
Extremely helpful. Thanks.
I’m currently without power here in Edinburg Texas due to the ice storm, thank you for the CPAP/1000 review.
Glad to help!
Thanks, that was very helpful and admirable you did it for us even though you're not a CPAP user. Thankya thankya!
You're welcome!
Thanks for sharing this video, excellent review.
Thank you, Just bought the Jackery 240 (UK version) last week when it was released. I will buy the Jackery 500 for my wife's CPAP machine for when we go camping or power cut situations at home.
Good choice!
Great information just what I wanted
Awesome video!! Thx you for the info
Excellent video. Thanks
Thanks for this!
I have a 300w portable charger, use the 12V (cigarette lighter) plug & can get 2 full nights sleep (8hrs/night).
BUT...that is with the humidifier turned off. It sucks 40w/per hour with the humidifier vs 15w when it's off.
Excellent video!!!! Thanks!
Just the video i am looking for.
Very helpful, thankyou.
Thanks for the Info.
Thank you i'm a truck driver and I have a cpap Machine and I was looking for.
A unit that will power it through the night. And you just saw my problem, thank you😮
Glad I could help
I'm looking at the Jackery 500, for my CPAP, not for camping (I can't get my wife to camp in a tent if I begged her), but because I live in California, enough said, we have outages all the time here, plus the idea of having this in my Subaru would be useful when we do go out on long road trips.
Thanks, a good help. Texas
I built a 30AH field box with LFO batteries and get about 3 nights of 6 hours sleep/night.
I also purchased a Taifu 12v to 24v 3.75A PS with a 12v plug and the correct plug for the Airsense ResMed 10. This saves a bit of energy.
Also if you are blowing through more that 24wh per night, your mask may be coming off. The unit uses a lot of energy when the mask is not correctly fitted and comes loose.
The box is also retrofitted with a Victron MPPT solar controller and the Elcaenta 120w panel recharges the battery nicely.
Nice video BTW, the Jackery products are very cool and got me through a very tough winter emergency powering 12v blankets and small refrigerator
Thanks for this, I have been searching for information on using the Jackery with c- pap. I think with a 12 volt adapter, the results would be even better.
That’s is correct. Ac will use about double the battery compared to 12v adaptor. Also depends what pressure you run at and also if you are running the humidifier will use more.
@@bigdmc6459 Can you adapt the generator and cpap to charge off the 12V cigarette lighter? Or, should I use an inverter in the car’s cigarette lighter plug? Thanks in advance.
@@gabriellestrassmann5565 yes you just buy the 12v plug to cpap connector. No need for the power brick. Make sure your cpap unit is a 12v unit. You just plug it straight into the 12v cig port on your generator.
My goal zero came with a 12v cig plug. To charge. It will take a very long time to charge up your battery via car 12v.
use a 12.volt plug turn off humidifier
Awesome. Huge help. Ty b
Glad it helped!
Super video! Thanks so much! Don't think I would use my CPAP w/o the humidifier; I can't sleep w/o that, but I happily get by on 5 hrs/night sleep so the medium unit may be adequate.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you. Very good. I also found that the Jackery 200W will run a cpap for 4 hours after testing this for myself.
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Glad it helped, Thanks for sharing your experience!
I read some where that if you use an AC to12 volt DC converter for your CPAP machine, you will get a much better results for power usage.
Correct. 10 to 25% savings because no inverter needed
Who sleeps 8 hrs on cpap??? Lol. I can only sleep 4-5 hours and I'm ready to work 12 hour shift! 😆. That's the same cpap I have. I just bought the 500 cause I do a lot of camping. Great video!!
I sleep 8+ every night. I like sleep a lot more than work.
I rarely sleep 8.
I sleep 8 hours with my CPAP.
I was able to get 8 hours using the 12volt plug/adapter with %17 left (Phillips - Respironics). My wife uses the humidifier so I tested it with it on. Good info, Thanks.
On which jackery . 300,500 or 1000 ???
@@victorresp555 Had to have been the 1000. No way he would have gotten 8 hours on the 500 with the humidifier on.
with my dream station and a 12 volt adapter my Jackery 160 gives me 2 ( 8 hour ) nights sleep with at least 15% left over. the problem with using the 110 plug is the fans for the unit has to run to keep the charging unit cool.
Turn off the humidifier and tube heat for off grid. The ResMed 10 series actually uses a 24v input but the 12v-24v boost converter is more efficient than 12v-120v-24v of using the inverter. I can get 3 nights off of a 500wh using the 12v-24v adapter and humidity and tube off. I get a bit better than 1 night with everything on and then the jackery charges to slow on any solar to make it another night (biggest flaw with the jackery - slow charge times)
Thanks for sharing your results - helpful for others in the community!
I've been looking for something to run my CPAP when the power goes out. I'm debating the Jackery 1000 vs Safari Lion ME. I really like the Jackery though. Thanks Brother!
I have the Jackery 240. At fixed 10cm H2O, my Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset used 25% in 8 hours....no humidifier and using a Resmed DC adapter. Therefore, the 240 model can last about 32 hours of CPAP use. The 300 model should do even better. The only con with the 240 is the slow charging by AC or solar. My testing was done over 2 nights (16 hours of CPAP use)....battery was left at about 50%.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Thanks
I've got the Jackery Explorer 1000 and a RESMED Bipap machine. I can get 4 full nights of use plugging it up just like you did. I got a Jackery Explorer 290 from Harbor Frieght and got got one full night plugging it up the way you did. I'm trying to find out how to use it with the DC.
👍👍 thanks
I am sure you can drop the heater and humidify on the Cpap and use less amps.
I have a 300 and a Phillips DreamStation CPAP (actually a ACPAP). No heated hose and run humidity at level 2. I average 7 hours of sleep. Jackery uses 10-13% of charge each night using a DC plug. On AC, it uses 20% of charge.
It will not power a small dorm style refrigerator on AC.
Thanks for commenting on how your works, as others have asked for different specs than what we ran.
One other thing. Generally speaking the CPAP machine is more than likely going to need a 200 amp hour battery. The family member travels with his CPAP and that is what he has. There is also a problem too with some of these CPAP machines and that they need 24 volts rather than 12 volts. It's necessary to have the right type of battery that matches the CPAP. Other than this I really liked the video and I wish people did more of these kinds of videos with CPAP machines and things like that.
please list the brand and model of a 24 Volt dc c-pap. as here in the USA 24 V dc is not available for many things. but 12V dc is everywhere.
have even found while camping above 8K feet. the c-pap gives you a far better sleep, when your used to living under 1K feet.
and yes i have used mine in my rv for years camping off grid.( running off the 12V dc supply). at 63 my bones do not like sleeping on the ground any longer...even with pads under me.
Did you have 2 cpap machines plugged in to one Jackery and was the humidifier on the cpap on or off. Thank you for any info.
Also. Turn humidity setting to off for longer run time.
Wife and I did a test with hers heat and humidity on ran for 8hrs with a 100AH deep cell 12v battery and a 750 inverter lasted 8 hrs and still had 12.7v don’t know the percentage battery used but worked like a charm
What Brand of battery? And whats the cost?
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Turn off the humidifier and the cord heater you could run that cpap for days
thank you so much, can you share the wattage of the machine used?
Get the 12v adapter for your cpap/bipap machines and watch your times almost double. My son has the ResMed airsenes 10 bipap with the 12v adapter and what a difference in time and percentage
very true
Where did you buy it from?
@@teambigv The 12v adaptor can be bought on Amazon. Just type in "Resmed 37297". It costs $76.95. or you can go with the generic brand for half that price.
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What heat setting did you use? This is where you use the most power.
Did you use the humidifier & heated tube and at what settings?
Thanks for your video. Question: I want to sleep in my car for a year. I have sleep apnea and a CPAP machine. I want to buy a Jackery 500 to power the CPAP machine every night while I sleep in my car. I would have to charge the Jackery 500 everyday in the trunk of my car as I drive Uber. What kind of toll would this take on my car battery (charging the Jackery 500 everyday)? Thanks.
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Update: I just received my jackery 500 and used it with my cpap and after 5 hours I went from 100% charge to 48% charge. My pressure setting are very high. Lol. I will convert my power cord from AC to DC and I should be able to use a fully charge jackery longer. DC power cord for the resmed 10 is $85 on eBay. Thank again!! 😊
thanks for sharing
I think another thing that you need to consider is having the CPAP/BiPAP accessories (humidifier, heated tube, etc) on or off. I have a VERY old respironics Bi-PAP that I have never used with any of the accessories and it drew about 34 watts peak with the AC plug. Runnig it overnight with a competing brand's 500 WattHour battery pack, it used about 40% of the capacity overnight. I have recently found a 12v adapater and expect to get better results with that (because there is some wasted energy used by the BiPAP's AC power converting from 120 VAC to the 12 VDC it uses.) I also recently got a shiny new ResMed Bi-PAP that I will be trying. I am curious if the older unit will draw less power because it uses a 12 VDC input wheras the ResMed is smaller/newer and uses a 24 VDC input. Because the old ones uses 12 VDC input, there is no need for another voltage conversion and therefore, no need to convert the voltage from the cigarette lighter socket whereas my newer and smaller unit is probably using less power, but needs 24 VDC and thus requires a power brick to do the voltage conversion!
@@johnmathias4871 correct dc is always better.
There are many 12v power supplies that will work with Resmed on Amazon for $35.
We both have machines. What would we need to power both overnight?
My 300w I can get 9 hours with my Resmed AirSense 10 as a BiPap, but have to turn off the humidifier to get that. But, while camping I rarely need the humidifier.
Thanks for adding your experience - turning off the humidifier would definitely help along with running on DC vs AC.
I use a Dreamstation 2 with the 12 volt car power plug instead of the electric adapter I have a high pressure setting of 16 CM H20 Mine with humidifier and heated tube draws on DC on Jackery 52W 7 Hours with a 100% charged Jackery I had 80% battery left so i could get a few nights out of my 1000 Watt Unit.
thanks for sharing your results
Why not test the Jackery's from the 12 volt source (cig lighter socket) thru a 12 /24v converter for the Airsence 10. Then measure the time you get from each of these units. Powering the inverter and the CPAP's 120vac step down power supply uses a lot more power.
Thanks for the review! If you got a DC power adapter and disabled the accessories (humidifier and/or heated hose, etc), it might be able to run for one night on even the little one. Havr you tried this or does the person who uses it not get a good nights sleep without those enabled? One other thought: I also got a 100 watt folding solar panel for use with my battery pack and for cloudy days, I have a 900 watt (peak) inverter generator that runs on propane, so I don't need to worry about how to recharge them if the power outage or boondocks camping trip is more than a few days.
I am looking at testing that out. I will let you know if I do.
I can't thank you enough for your video. I've been looking for a Jackery Explorer 1000 on a CPAP video forever. You even used my exact CPAP. A $1000 investment repuires alot of homework. If the CPAP used 52% in 9hrs, does that leave enough power to also run the fridge for 12hrs on the same single charge?
I haven't tested this but I would think so hours will depend on your usage.
It would depend on ambient temp, ir fridge run time.
Does anyone know what will power a CPap for 1 week preferably 2 without humidifier .
The travel Cpap is basically the the same fan in a smaller housing .
I have an air curve 10 and requires a 24V. I am ready to go camping but im stuck. Im not sure what generator to get.-
Forget that a.c. they are all 12v or 24v d.c..
The Resmeds are 24v and Rockpals 300 old model had 24v outlet. Mine runs 5 nights on one charge. You do not need to do inverter to dc to get your cpap to run as they are all d.c.
Thanks for your input. My parents just used it like they normally would in their home setting. Not having to convert would definitely increase run time.
ResMed recommends you use ResMed DC Converter 24V 90W for Air10
instead if AC on power station. I use ResMed Bilevel with humidifier with ResMed converter on FlashFish 330 power station and have 25% power left after 8 hours. The Jackery 500 would do just fine if use ResMed DC converter.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Would like to know how it would work on the 12v instead of the regulars plug.
I am hoping to test this in the future.
Matt. Did you use the 110 volt plug or the 12 volt? The 110 uses twice te power. Resmed make a 12 volt to 12 volt converter that allows you to utilize the 12 volt outlet.
I only had access to a 120Volt. I agree with your thoughts.
You have to use a 12v adapter for your cpap.. it last me 5 days with 6 to 7 hours use nightly
Which size generator/battery bank are you using?
Run it on dc and shut off humidifier and heated hose... my word some people
on the 300 with cpap resmed dc adapter made it whole night . not plug in ac port .
this is true, this makes all the difference
What was the heat/humidity set at?
I live in an area of 2 hr sun in an earthquake no power how do I recharge the 500 or 1000 to run my airsense 10 cpap?
What settings are you using on the Cpap? Are you using the humidifier? And the heated hose? Those things both use a lot more power. Also, using the 110 plug requires power inversion which adds to the draw,... could you run a test using a 12v adapter, no humidifier and no heated house and see how long the 300w will run it then?
My parents used it the normal way they do every night - with humidifier. If you check out the other comments to this video other people have mentioned their run times without humidifier and using 12v adapter.
For the 300 & 500, do you know if the sleep time extends significantly without the use of the humidifier/
water chamber? I’m close to purchase, but I don’t think I can physically handle the 1,000. Thank you for your time.
We did not try it without the humidifier - check out the comments as other people have tried it various ways and have posted their run times.
@@MWDAdventures Thanks for replying. Right after I sent the question, I read some of the comments, and not only am I embarrassed that I didn’t read them beforehand, I should, now, stop being frustrated by others when they ask questions before reading the comments. Thanks again.
Was this testing using the 100v or 12v adapter? Thanks for the information.
They fully test the 120 and 12V systems.
How load are the generators?
so if i don't use the humidifier but I do have to use my portable oxygen concentrator with the cpap (makes it a bipap) do you think the 1000 would run them both for 9 hours?
Susan - I would recommend reading the reviews - others that have used the jackery with their various cpap setups have commented on their run times.
Hi there, do these machines have 24v DC ports? If so, could you retest using DC power to see how much battery life you would save?
Older Rockpals 300W has 24v...perfect for Resmed 24V. Get 5 nights with my Rockpals 300 (2019 style model still available from Aliexpress and Banggood retailers as it was made under several other names!)
@@ebikecnx7239 Hey! thanks. Actually just purchased a Bluetti EB55. Will be posting a review soon. Just completed night 3 using the DC port.
Was that also with the tube being heated?
were the run times for the Cpaps done using the 110 outlet or the 12volt, Cpap run off 12volts
The run times were for 110
You probably have to turn off the humidity to get most low-power batteries to give a full night of CPAP.
Does this include the humidifier and heated tube? If those were turned off I bet it would go much longer.
It definitely included the humidifier, not sure on the heated tube. They used it like they normally do off of home power. Also used AC power vs DC power. With those adjustments, it could go longer.
No one uses the flashlights on those. I always have a flashlight in my pocket.
You get far better usage if you don’t use your humidifier.
Hay Matt DeWitt it's me again Ryan Quick Question be for I buy one of these products. I for one like the best so Instead of running a small heater in the Unit how about a heating blanket I'm thanking the 1000 should do the job. "Maybe a video in the near future".
1000 should be fine for a blanket. Thanks for the idea 💡
I have the Airsense 10. I don’t use the humidifier. It ran 7.5 hours and only dropped to 75%. The next night it went 7 hrs and went down to 44%. I could have gotten three full nights on one charge. The heater / humidifier that eats the charge. If you don’t use humidifier, the 300 will be fine.
Thanks for sharing your results....we have had a lot of people ask how long it would run without the humidifier.
What battery system did you use? What size was your battery?
@@robertjones2782 Mine is the Jackery 300.
Is there less draw if you use a DC converter to the cpap and run on the CD side of the jackery?
Yes, using DC convertor would allow you to have longer run times
@@MWDAdventures thank you.
did you use the regular setting or did you turn off the humidifier and heating tube?
They used it like normal in their home setting. Used humidifier and AC power. Using DC power and no humidifier should allow for longer run times.
Hi Matt,
Was the run time on the 1000 with 1 cpap or 2? I thought you mentioned you had your mom and dads cpap hooked up?
Just one cpap - they tried it different nights.
does the 300come with a sloar panel and hook up cords ?
You can buy a Jackery Solar panel separately.
Do you use the humidifier and heated hose? These must use more power and I can manage without these
It was my parents that trialled this for us, not sure on all the specifications of their set up.
Check out the other comments- multiple people have said how they set their up CPAP and what kind of power draw they had.
Did you test with or without the humidifier?
My parent always use the humidifier, so they used it like they typically would in their house with no power concerns. The Jackery would last longer without the humidifier being run. From what I understand there is a 12 volt plug adaptor that would also extend the usage time on the Jackery.
did you turn off the humidifier? that takes alot of power.
My parents did not turn off the humidifier, so it would most likely last longer than this trial.
I have the same Resmed device as your parents use and I go camping semi regularly. I noticed you used the AC plug and therefore used the inverter which I understand always uses much power. Resmed has a DC to DC adaptor which is far and away more efficient than the AC. I use an AGM battery which is heavy but what I could afford after buying the expensive cpapdevice. My setup is solar powered as where I go is off grid. It’d be interesting to see if the Jackery has a suitable plug for the DC lead. If yes, I think your parents would use less power. Do Jackery have a recycling return system? I see many UA-cam users with the latest greatest and multiple units like yourself.
During summer and theoretically longer solar, I’ll use the humidifier but the Resmed device your parents have can get a ResMed Air 10 Side Cover for ResMed Airsense 10 which is a block of the humidifier attachment. Your parents may end up with a dry mouth or throat but would find the device used much less power overnight. Our winter here in Australia, in the south east, aren’t as extreme as the North American or north hemisphere areas. The Resmed does have a minimum operating temperature which can be a challenge sometimes but hasn’t stopped my device. My AGM battery works well so I won’t be replacing it with these do everything you want type devices. Not sure Jackery sells in Australia anyway.
Thanks for your insight. They just used it the way they typically do at home and weren’t going for optimal conditions. I agree DC would be more efficient but they didn’t have that connection available. Love to hear what your run times are when you get a chance to test it out.
how long does it take to charge these things 100% with solar power?
Long time it will take all day plus so the panels are just more for top offs not for drain and refill.
Are you using the ac power or using the dc power for the cpap?
My parents only had the AC available so that is what we used for this experiment. From what others are saying in the comments- they are getting longer run times with DC
@@MWDAdventures I bought the jackery 500 and Resmed dc adapter. I used it last night with no humidity for about 6 to 7 hours it only used 14% battery.
I Just got home from hunting northern Michigan with my brother. I took my marine battery and c-pap Resmed air-sense 10 and we camped in a tent for 5 days (4 NIGHTS) and I shut off my humidifier( which uses more energy) but I kept the humidifier filled with distilled water. The temperature ranged from low 40's to high 20's in those 5 days. I would not put my battery on the tent floor but set it on a blanket folded up. I made sure when I left home the battery was fully charged and one night slept for 10 hours, the 1st night we got there. I covered the battery when we were out hunting to try and keep it as warm as I could. I took my battery charger just in case I had to charge it with my brothers F-150( I didn't have to) and my inverter to alligator clip to the battery. On the 4th night I was wondering how much energy I had left in my battery and morning came (9 hours sleep that night) and we packed up and left for home. After a 5 hour ride home my brother said "I'm curious to know what % you have left in that battery, so we took the marine battery in the garage hooked up the charger and it said I had 50% power left. I was pleasantly surprised.
Which marine battery did you use?
I have a 35ah AMG deep cell battery with alligator clips also. Heavy; but I do the same where I turn off the humidifier. I can get 2-3 nights with it. I do the same with a 300w portable charger (much lighter) & can get 2 nights, at least. Curious how large of a battery you used to get 4+ nights?!?
Hey gary please respond...we are curious on what battery did u use?...thank u
Sorry for the delay. It was an EVERSTART Marine battery that says Group size 24 DC, Selection number 92, bought it at Walmart, I think. It was a few years ago, but I'm pretty sure there's a lot better one's now.
I Should add when I Got up in the morning I would turn my converter switch off and take the clips off the battery, just to take every precaution I could to get as much life out of my battery. Like I said I covered my battery while hunting all day long to keep it warm and off the tent floor so It wouldn't get damp or cold. I hope this helps. Now my brother tells me he has both weeks off for hunting and I THOUGHT OH-OH this might make me buy another marine battery.
Did you have 1 or 2 cpap for your tests ?
My parents each have a cpap, so they each used a Jackery for the test
If you get a dc power cord and run cpap unit without a humidifier it will surprise you...
I got a full night off a motorcycle battery.
Humidifier on or off for testing?
Humidifier was on for this test. I am assuming you could go longer without the humidifier.
Were your parents using the humidifier during the tests?
bigjoemann yes they did.
@@MWDAdventures that would explain the high use. Would they be interested in testing with the humidifier off?
Please make a new test because no one uses their humidifier and heated tube because that want to get as many days as possible form the battery pack
we are working on retesting and hope to have an updated video with more options.
@@MWDAdventures I was looking at the resmed 10 website about what size battery is needed with everything turned off takes point .70 amps that should allow a 300 to run for days