Hi Dennis, I have been looking for a battery backup solution for my Resmed Airsense 10 AutoSet CPAP to deal with increased power outages. Your video was great timing. Do you think that I could use a Stanley JumpIT 1000amps peak/500amps instant starting power battery with the KFD Car Charger DC Adapter for Resmed Airsense 10 with humidification turned off in a pinch? This would be a temporary solution until I buy a better battery backup solution. I realize the Stanley Jumpit battery would take a very long time to recharge fully. So, it is not very practical if a power outage goes beyond a single day.
It would depend on your settings! That model only has 19 AH of stored energy. It’s really designed for bursts of power, not sustained usage. So you would definitely not be able to use it with the humidifier for an entire night. And even without humidity, you’d be limited to a pressure of 16 cmH2O (I dunno what your pressures are, of course.) Mind you, it could be that the JumpIt has some auto shutoff feature that would prevent even that. You’d have to look at the manual. But for a temporary solution that could get you through one night until you can get something different? Again, assuming the lack of auto shutoff, it should work!
@@AdventureswithCPAP I guess the Stanley JumpIt is not too practical especially if it only produces 19AH. My pressure settings 10-12 cmH2O would require about 13AH, so that is a pretty narrow margin for success. Thank you for the great video and the answer.
Just a quick comment on your booster pack and all those with booster packs if you want them to last get a good battery charger that charges to 14.8 volts and floats it from 13.4 I found NH this on a full time RVer website and I thought it was wrong after all the manifactor should know proper care and charging perameters of their products since my black and decker was handy I opened it up to find the battery manufacturers web site to find out what they are saying the battery should be charged at didn't need their website written right on the battery was do not discharge below 12.2 volts float charge 13.4 and full charge 14.8 and on the built in wall wort was output 12 volts so it was no wonder my booster packs with an inverter died it was dead to start with so I checked my new everstart booster packs and their charger was 12 volt but I. noticed it actually changed to 13.1 so I went online to get their phone number and called them the person I talked to was very polite and listened to what I was saying about my findings but it was okay that's what theirs was fully charged at 13.1 so I believed him about a year later ii noticed that where I could boost my ptcruser 5 times it was down to 4 quickly dropping to 3 then to 3 so I tried my charger that charges through the cigarette lighter plug but it wasn working so I clipped my good battery charger to the booster cables za, turned on the booster cables an plugged in the charger left it over night in the morning I checked out the status of the battery it read fully charged at 13.9 but then it was at 90% after a few uses it it got to 14.4 and I could again boost the ptcruser 4 times but if I push it I can get 5 so RVer were right in checking out the history of lead acid batteries When batteries first came out they were in a 8x8by 14 inches high and they were 2 volts and when the tucker rcar was made it had an electric starter and a generator and needed a new smaller battery that would give it good power for starting the automobile with different methods of building a battery and the volts went up
FYI - Speak to your power supplier and see if they have a form that can be submitted stating you have a medical device that provides breathing support running on electricity. When your power is out they prioritize restoring your power, so your power will be restored quicker. My power company, AEP provides this service. One rental home I lived in the power supplied our home and the one next door. The "fuse" would blow on the pole and we waited hours; after submitting the paperwork our power was restored within an hour. I also took a 12-pack of "cold beverages" out to the worker and thanked him every time we were home. Most were thankful and accepted the gift. Hope this information helps.
As much as those "five stages of grief" are misused to the point of being a myth - regarding GRIEF - I found myself laughing out loud as you applied them to CPAP. I can relate! Thanks for your channel and for this video!
Grief? Ive been struggling to breathe so much post covid I am impatient to get my machine. Wasn't aware of the learning curve. Your videos have been very helpful. Thanks
Last night we had a power outage. Our house was the only one involved-something to do out at the road i now have a torture device called a cpap and there was no power. I pulled out the Jackery battery, plugged in the cpap and a fan and went back to sleep until the power came back on a few hours later. A boat battery hooked up to a dc converter will also work but the Jackery worked really well. I can keep it plugged in to keep it charged and run the cpap through it at the same time.
Thanks. Clear and nearly complete. Yes, don't ever use a modified sine wave inverter. Yes, heating takes a lot of energy. However... The heater for the humidifier is 100 % efficient. Every electric heater is 100 % efficient. All the energy is converted into heat, just what you want. During the nerdy bit you used the full capacity of the battery to calculate possible usage hours. However... You can't use 100 % of your battery. It would die in a couple of weeks. The advertised capacity is not the same as useable capacity. I like to not use the last 20 %, preferably more. So with the humidifier on, you nearly emptied the battery of useable energy. My solution is to use a heavier battery with more capacity. You mentioned mAh capacity of your battery. If you do the math, that seems to be calculated based on 3.2 volts. The battery outlets are 12 volt. Therefore it would be better to calculate all energy use in Watts. You have a powerful DC power outlet. Can you use that to charge the battery? On mine it's not advertised like this, but it's possible to charge way faster this way.
Good info. You are right…there are so many solutions and we each have to decide what is best for us. Been using a Zopec Explore 5500 for about 2 months. Picked up the solar charger as well. The 5500 I can take on a plane once I resume international travel again. We were anticipating significant power outages this summer and I wanted to be prepared. The 5500 worked flawlessly during a power outage. It kicked in and I never knew we had an outage until the next morning. Thanks for the info Dennis…oh…didn’t stick around for the geeky stuff. It would probably make my brain explode. 🤯
WOW, so much greatness in this video, thanks! I didn't know there was a ResMed battery guide! LOVED all your geeky details and content! QUESTION: My GF's Grandpa wants a dead-simple solution for running his AirSense 10 for 2 days when power goes out... but doesn't want to worry about keeping it charged, turning the power station unit on each night, etc. Are there any power stations that are just on all the time, keeping the battery topped-off, and basically allow the user to plug in their CPAP to the power station as though it was connected to always-on power? THANKS!!!
I bought all power R600 with heat tube & water chamber off last about night and bought solar panel for changing since I was in Florida when Ian hit and power out for 2 weeks. Now getting rested 11 and it has different power plug than 10 so DC cable bought for 10 cigarette plug will not work with 11.
Nice solution! Thank you. One correction: At about 11:35, you were showing the adapter power cable. And said plug it into the USB port and it'd be fine. Whoops! No, that is not a Universal Serial Bus cable. It's only a POWER cable - no serial data flowing through it - and the round power connector will not plug into any USB port.....Thankfully.... Keep up the good work.
No, that's exactly the *opposite* of what I said. I was explaining that they make *similar* adapters with a USB connection on one end and the cigarette port on the other. In other worse, the same cable I was showing, but with USB instead of the DC plug. I explained all of the reason those USB ports aren't capable of delivering sufficient voltage and amperage and why it's a bad idea to buy them.
@@doubledranch871 ah! I’ll check the captions when I get home and correct them if needed, then. Thanks for letting me know! I thought I transcribed the captions myself but maybe I screwed up.
@@AdventureswithCPAPIf the transcriptions are automatic (google), they can be very wrong - laughably wrong sometimes! The Google app that I use on my cellphone to read what people say is a million times worse. My wife hates it and rightly so. I have changed it's name from LTA (Live transcribe App) to LBA (Lying BassTurd App!!) Sucks not to hear properly. Sucks more when your app tells you things thst they did NOT say......
I work at night and my CPAP measures on a weird scale it makes it think that Im not sleeping a full x number of hours when I am. Another issue I have sometimes is that the mask gets an unconfortable skin burning feeling at night when wearing it. Almost a cold wet sensation makes it feel like my skin around my nose is burning. I also have issues with the CPAP hose when I have colds or my nose is stuffy. Is there any videos you would recommend for these issues?
Great video--and I dug the geeky parts.😁 Question: do you think an EGO Power+ Nexus Power Station (pure sine wave, 2000 watts continuous/3000 watts peak, charged by up to four 56-volt batteries that range from 2.5AH up to 10.0AH each) could safely run an AS10 all night long? The AS10 manual gave me pause when with the bit about not recommending using a power inverter. I have a Nexus Power Station, and nowhere in the product description or 100ish page manual is it referred to as a power inverter (on the other hand, its little brother, the Power+ Nexus Escape is clearly described as a 150 watt power inverter). And having used this thing (with one 10.0AH and two 5.0AH batteries) to power a 1200 watt vacuum cleaner to clean out a 12-pax van, I can't help but feel like it could easily power the AS10 all night long with whatever humidity and pressure settings I threw at it. I don't yet have a CPAP, but I was thinking using something like the Power Station--since I already have one--would be a great way to operate a CPAP on a nightly basis without ever having to worry about the power going out.
There are a couple of ways to find out! Do you have a lamp and one of those terrible CFL bulbs with the curlicue design? If so, plug it into the power station and see if it operates properly. Alternately, you can plug an audio device into it and turn up the volume, but don’t play music. If you hear a sort of buzzing noise (assuming said device doesn’t buzz when you plug it into a wall), it’s likely a modified sine wave. If it sounds good, and the CFL bulb works okay, you should be copacetic!
@@AdventureswithCPAP Thanks! Most of our CFL bulbs bit the dust, but I think we might still have one or two lying around with which to run this test. However, is this just checking to see whether the Power Station emits pure sine wave power? EGO claims that it does (and I've no reason to disbelieve them), so while I'm interested in the results of this CFL experiment, I'm not sure if it addresses my concern. The AS10 manual snippet you showed seemed to indicate that ResMed doesn't recommend using a power inverter with the AS10 at *all*, but to use a pure sine wave one with other models. Did I get that wrong? And then there's the matter of whether the Power Station is/is not an inverter...
@@andrewberrigan1404, so, the one thing you'll find with CPAP is that a lot of recommendations from manufacturers fall somewhere between CYA and "just in case." Or, conversely, they're giving a simple answer to a complicated problem. It's my very strong suspicion that ResMed recommends against using inverters for two reasons: one, because they don't have the ink to explain the difference between modified and pure sine wave output, and two, because they don't trust consumers to know the difference. Well, there's also the inefficiency. Using an inverter is going to result in power loss, for sure. So in a guide to operating your CPAP on a battery that focuses on use hours, it makes sense. So, TL;DR: I think there's something about the power brick of the AirSense 10 that would go kerflooey in the presence of a modified sine wave (or certainly in the presence of a square ave), but it should be fine with a pure sine wave. As long as it's getting pure sinusoidal AC, how would it know the source? That's just my two cents!
@@AdventureswithCPAP Maybe just two cents, but very insightful nonetheless. Thanks! I have a feeling I'll be plugging my CPAP (if I end up getting one) into my Power Station after all.
I have a question maybe you can answer when I look on my cpap makers web site and also online from Amazon the cost of the 12 volt adapter is around 250 dollars but my dealer has them for under 40 dollars I've also checked resmeds site as well so I'm curious is the company one a regulated 12 volt supply and that's why it's so expensive
I think it might not. If you look at the document linked above, they don't cover the AirCurve 10, but they do list some VPAPs from the S9 line, and they all draw like twice to five times as much current as the APAPs and CPAPs. Sorry!
Looks like you'd need an inverter to make it work, unfortunately! So that adds to the price a little. www.batterypowersolutions.net/downloads/FD_FP_ICON.pdf
I don’t. That’s really not what this battery is designed for, and doing so would wear it out pretty quickly. So, if I know severe weather is coming overnight, I simply switch over to battery operation, then plug it back into the wall the next day. I’m fortunate in that power outages are pretty predictable where I live.
Hi Dennis, I have been looking for a battery backup solution for my Resmed Airsense 10 AutoSet CPAP to deal with increased power outages. Your video was great timing. Do you think that I could use a Stanley JumpIT 1000amps peak/500amps instant starting power battery with the KFD Car Charger DC Adapter for Resmed Airsense 10 with humidification turned off in a pinch? This would be a temporary solution until I buy a better battery backup solution. I realize the Stanley Jumpit battery would take a very long time to recharge fully. So, it is not very practical if a power outage goes beyond a single day.
It would depend on your settings! That model only has 19 AH of stored energy. It’s really designed for bursts of power, not sustained usage. So you would definitely not be able to use it with the humidifier for an entire night. And even without humidity, you’d be limited to a pressure of 16 cmH2O (I dunno what your pressures are, of course.)
Mind you, it could be that the JumpIt has some auto shutoff feature that would prevent even that. You’d have to look at the manual.
But for a temporary solution that could get you through one night until you can get something different? Again, assuming the lack of auto shutoff, it should work!
@@AdventureswithCPAP I guess the Stanley JumpIt is not too practical especially if it only produces 19AH. My pressure settings 10-12 cmH2O would require about 13AH, so that is a pretty narrow margin for success. Thank you for the great video and the answer.
Just a quick comment on your booster pack and all those with booster packs if you want them to last get a good battery charger that charges to 14.8 volts and floats it from 13.4 I found NH this on a full time RVer website and I thought it was wrong after all the manifactor should know proper care and charging perameters of their products since my black and decker was handy I opened it up to find the battery manufacturers web site to find out what they are saying the battery should be charged at didn't need their website written right on the battery was do not discharge below 12.2 volts float charge 13.4 and full charge 14.8 and on the built in wall wort was output 12 volts so it was no wonder my booster packs with an inverter died it was dead to start with so I checked my new everstart booster packs and their charger was 12 volt but I. noticed it actually changed to 13.1 so I went online to get their phone number and called them the person I talked to was very polite and listened to what I was saying about my findings but it was okay that's what theirs was fully charged at 13.1 so I believed him about a year later ii noticed that where I could boost my ptcruser 5 times it was down to 4 quickly dropping to 3 then to 3 so I tried my charger that charges through the cigarette lighter plug but it wasn working so I clipped my good battery charger to the booster cables za, turned on the booster cables an plugged in the charger left it over night in the morning I checked out the status of the battery it read fully charged at 13.9 but then it was at 90% after a few uses it it got to 14.4 and I could again boost the ptcruser 4 times but if I push it I can get 5 so RVer were right in checking out the history of lead acid batteries
When batteries first came out they were in a 8x8by 14 inches high and they were 2 volts and when the tucker rcar was made it had an electric starter and a generator and needed a new smaller battery that would give it good power for starting the automobile with different methods of building a battery and the volts went up
FYI - Speak to your power supplier and see if they have a form that can be submitted stating you have a medical device that provides breathing support running on electricity. When your power is out they prioritize restoring your power, so your power will be restored quicker. My power company, AEP provides this service.
One rental home I lived in the power supplied our home and the one next door. The "fuse" would blow on the pole and we waited hours; after submitting the paperwork our power was restored within an hour.
I also took a 12-pack of "cold beverages" out to the worker and thanked him every time we were home. Most were thankful and accepted the gift. Hope this information helps.
As much as those "five stages of grief" are misused to the point of being a myth - regarding GRIEF - I found myself laughing out loud as you applied them to CPAP. I can relate! Thanks for your channel and for this video!
Grief? Ive been struggling to breathe so much post covid I am impatient to get my machine. Wasn't aware of the learning curve. Your videos have been very helpful.
Thanks
Last night we had a power outage. Our house was the only one involved-something to do out at the road i now have a torture device called a cpap and there was no power. I pulled out the Jackery battery, plugged in the cpap and a fan and went back to sleep until the power came back on a few hours later. A boat battery hooked up to a dc converter will also work but the Jackery worked really well. I can keep it plugged in to keep it charged and run the cpap through it at the same time.
I cracked up when I went to your Amazon link. You were spot on the unit was $210 with $100 coupon = $120 😆😆
🤣It almost never fails!
Thanks. Clear and nearly complete. Yes, don't ever use a modified sine wave inverter. Yes, heating takes a lot of energy.
However... The heater for the humidifier is 100 % efficient. Every electric heater is 100 % efficient. All the energy is converted into heat, just what you want.
During the nerdy bit you used the full capacity of the battery to calculate possible usage hours.
However... You can't use 100 % of your battery. It would die in a couple of weeks. The advertised capacity is not the same as useable capacity. I like to not use the last 20 %, preferably more. So with the humidifier on, you nearly emptied the battery of useable energy.
My solution is to use a heavier battery with more capacity.
You mentioned mAh capacity of your battery. If you do the math, that seems to be calculated based on 3.2 volts. The battery outlets are 12 volt. Therefore it would be better to calculate all energy use in Watts.
You have a powerful DC power outlet. Can you use that to charge the battery? On mine it's not advertised like this, but it's possible to charge way faster this way.
Good info. You are right…there are so many solutions and we each have to decide what is best for us. Been using a Zopec Explore 5500 for about 2 months. Picked up the solar charger as well. The 5500 I can take on a plane once I resume international travel again. We were anticipating significant power outages this summer and I wanted to be prepared. The 5500 worked flawlessly during a power outage. It kicked in and I never knew we had an outage until the next morning. Thanks for the info Dennis…oh…didn’t stick around for the geeky stuff. It would probably make my brain explode. 🤯
Nuh uh! I kept it as non-head-explodey as possible!
@@AdventureswithCPAP Ok…watching it now. If my brain explodes it was nice knowing you. LOL
I have one of those batteries! I love the built-in inverter. Super handy.
Whoever told you to buy this one specifically is both intelligent and handsome, I'm sure of it.
Great video Dennis!
Thanks, bubba! Big fan of your vids, too!
WOW, so much greatness in this video, thanks! I didn't know there was a ResMed battery guide! LOVED all your geeky details and content! QUESTION: My GF's Grandpa wants a dead-simple solution for running his AirSense 10 for 2 days when power goes out... but doesn't want to worry about keeping it charged, turning the power station unit on each night, etc. Are there any power stations that are just on all the time, keeping the battery topped-off, and basically allow the user to plug in their CPAP to the power station as though it was connected to always-on power? THANKS!!!
If he uses humidification, I’d get this one along with the car plug for the AirSense 10:
amzn.to/3Xrci5u
That’ll definitely last two nights.
I bought all power R600 with heat tube & water chamber off last about night and bought solar panel for changing since I was in Florida when Ian hit and power out for 2 weeks. Now getting rested 11 and it has different power plug than 10 so DC cable bought for 10 cigarette plug will not work with 11.
Nice solution! Thank you.
One correction: At about 11:35, you were showing the adapter power cable. And said plug it into the
USB port and it'd be fine. Whoops! No, that is not a Universal Serial Bus cable. It's only a POWER
cable - no serial data flowing through it - and the round power connector will not plug into any USB
port.....Thankfully....
Keep up the good work.
No, that's exactly the *opposite* of what I said. I was explaining that they make *similar* adapters with a USB connection on one end and the cigarette port on the other. In other worse, the same cable I was showing, but with USB instead of the DC plug. I explained all of the reason those USB ports aren't capable of delivering sufficient voltage and amperage and why it's a bad idea to buy them.
@@AdventureswithCPAPAh. Being hearing impaired, I use captions. Perhaps they did not transcribe your words correctly......
@@doubledranch871 ah! I’ll check the captions when I get home and correct them if needed, then. Thanks for letting me know! I thought I transcribed the captions myself but maybe I screwed up.
@@AdventureswithCPAPIf the transcriptions are automatic (google), they
can be very wrong - laughably wrong sometimes! The Google app that I use on my cellphone to read what people say is a million times worse.
My wife hates it and rightly so. I have changed it's name from LTA (Live transcribe App) to LBA (Lying BassTurd App!!)
Sucks not to hear properly. Sucks more when your app tells you things thst they did NOT say......
hello i like your videos i bought one but it stop charging need help
I work at night and my CPAP measures on a weird scale it makes it think that Im not sleeping a full x number of hours when I am. Another issue I have sometimes is that the mask gets an unconfortable skin burning feeling at night when wearing it. Almost a cold wet sensation makes it feel like my skin around my nose is burning. I also have issues with the CPAP hose when I have colds or my nose is stuffy. Is there any videos you would recommend for these issues?
I have 2 new 12v deep cycle batteries. Can I link them in series to go direct to my cpap?
Great video--and I dug the geeky parts.😁 Question: do you think an EGO Power+ Nexus Power Station (pure sine wave, 2000 watts continuous/3000 watts peak, charged by up to four 56-volt batteries that range from 2.5AH up to 10.0AH each) could safely run an AS10 all night long? The AS10 manual gave me pause when with the bit about not recommending using a power inverter. I have a Nexus Power Station, and nowhere in the product description or 100ish page manual is it referred to as a power inverter (on the other hand, its little brother, the Power+ Nexus Escape is clearly described as a 150 watt power inverter). And having used this thing (with one 10.0AH and two 5.0AH batteries) to power a 1200 watt vacuum cleaner to clean out a 12-pax van, I can't help but feel like it could easily power the AS10 all night long with whatever humidity and pressure settings I threw at it. I don't yet have a CPAP, but I was thinking using something like the Power Station--since I already have one--would be a great way to operate a CPAP on a nightly basis without ever having to worry about the power going out.
There are a couple of ways to find out! Do you have a lamp and one of those terrible CFL bulbs with the curlicue design? If so, plug it into the power station and see if it operates properly.
Alternately, you can plug an audio device into it and turn up the volume, but don’t play music. If you hear a sort of buzzing noise (assuming said device doesn’t buzz when you plug it into a wall), it’s likely a modified sine wave. If it sounds good, and the CFL bulb works okay, you should be copacetic!
@@AdventureswithCPAP Thanks! Most of our CFL bulbs bit the dust, but I think we might still have one or two lying around with which to run this test. However, is this just checking to see whether the Power Station emits pure sine wave power? EGO claims that it does (and I've no reason to disbelieve them), so while I'm interested in the results of this CFL experiment, I'm not sure if it addresses my concern. The AS10 manual snippet you showed seemed to indicate that ResMed doesn't recommend using a power inverter with the AS10 at *all*, but to use a pure sine wave one with other models. Did I get that wrong? And then there's the matter of whether the Power Station is/is not an inverter...
@@andrewberrigan1404, so, the one thing you'll find with CPAP is that a lot of recommendations from manufacturers fall somewhere between CYA and "just in case." Or, conversely, they're giving a simple answer to a complicated problem.
It's my very strong suspicion that ResMed recommends against using inverters for two reasons: one, because they don't have the ink to explain the difference between modified and pure sine wave output, and two, because they don't trust consumers to know the difference. Well, there's also the inefficiency. Using an inverter is going to result in power loss, for sure. So in a guide to operating your CPAP on a battery that focuses on use hours, it makes sense.
So, TL;DR: I think there's something about the power brick of the AirSense 10 that would go kerflooey in the presence of a modified sine wave (or certainly in the presence of a square ave), but it should be fine with a pure sine wave. As long as it's getting pure sinusoidal AC, how would it know the source?
That's just my two cents!
@@AdventureswithCPAP Maybe just two cents, but very insightful nonetheless. Thanks! I have a feeling I'll be plugging my CPAP (if I end up getting one) into my Power Station after all.
I have a question maybe you can answer when I look on my cpap makers web site and also online from Amazon the cost of the 12 volt adapter is around 250 dollars but my dealer has them for under 40 dollars I've also checked resmeds site as well so I'm curious is the company one a regulated 12 volt supply and that's why it's so expensive
Hmm. Which machine do you have?
@AdventureswithCPAP
will this set up work with a AirCurve 10 Vauto?
I think it might not. If you look at the document linked above, they don't cover the AirCurve 10, but they do list some VPAPs from the S9 line, and they all draw like twice to five times as much current as the APAPs and CPAPs. Sorry!
Do they make a product that does both that has a ups for power outages and is on the go portable battery that doesn't cost $300
Well, it's not quite $300, but I think the Portable Outlet is what you're looking for. It sells for around $270: amzn.to/3nehAm9
I use Fisher Payless icon cpap. Do you know if I could use what you use for power when there is a power outage? Thank you.
Looks like you'd need an inverter to make it work, unfortunately! So that adds to the price a little.
www.batterypowersolutions.net/downloads/FD_FP_ICON.pdf
@@AdventureswithCPAP thank you so much for taking the time to help me with my question!!!! You are awesome to do this! With much gratitude!
Do you leave the battery plugged in so that it functions as a UPS then?
I don’t. That’s really not what this battery is designed for, and doing so would wear it out pretty quickly.
So, if I know severe weather is coming overnight, I simply switch over to battery operation, then plug it back into the wall the next day. I’m fortunate in that power outages are pretty predictable where I live.
*TWSS - ha!