The Grand Unified Mr Blue Eyes Conspiracy of Cyberpunk 2077
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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:41 Dream On
00:03:43 TASTE THE LOVE
00:04:28 Dream On
00:11:20 Full Disclosure
00:17:49 Bloody Ritual
00:25:45 Garry the Prophet
00:34:37 The Prophet's Song
00:45:46 The Killing Moon
00:49:14 Path of Glory
00:55:29 Morgan Blackhand Hair
00:58:05 The Rings
00:59:28 The Unified Conspiracy
01:04:01 Conclusion - Ігри
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I think I found a clue to the numbers on the spotting glasses spread around the city with the numbers 0312-2105B I found a location and on the wall there sits 0312-2105A. So I think you might be right about the number not being random.
Now it's time to make a 10 hour CP2077 video please.
Mr. Perazels has the ring does his wife also have one. I wonder if the ring marks the people being controlled. Gary could have broken the control like Mr. Perazels does a gone insane. Or maybe the ring is like a receiver that trickle feeds data to and from the person during the day while away from the bigger machines?
@@staticthewhitewolf7040 perhaps you could be right, but you may never know until it is solved.
@@N1ghtc0rp-0 It is only really solved when the Devs say it is solved.
Maybe the real Mr. Blue eyes was the friends we made along the way
Get outta here lol 😆
Wait, so you're saying my friends are under Mr Blue Eyes control??? *gets shotgun*
Lol... We may have made friends along the way, but I'm pretty sure Mr Blue eyes is NOT among them. 😂
I DID ! I-I understood that reference…
I wish we could have sided with Kurt Hansen, true friend of the people.
Im pretty sure Mr Blue Eyes was supposed to have a bigger place in the story before CDPR start cutting out so many parts of the game. And I hate reading all those shards man.
I sure hope they'll follow up on this whole plot in Orion
I agree. reading is hard..............................
My guess is maybe once upon a time this whole thing may have become another expansion. Hopefully now it'll be a plot picked up in Orion
90% sure there would've been significant followups in the cancelled crystal palace expansion
I'm pretty sure I mastered Elden Ring by only beating it over 10 times sir!
I think something else that kills the Morgan Blackhand theory is that Rouge would probably recognize him in "(Don't fear) The Reaper".
Rogue
ay yo rouge the bat is in cyberpunk???
what if they used the "vanish anyone from your own sight" trick where rougue doesnt see morgan black hand
Fun fact at 6:32, if you non lethaly take out the 2 agents heading for the AV, their heads will still pop, killing them obviously. They realy do value secrecy.
I know that we're probably running low on content for 2077, but videos like this have really made you a goto for these kinds of videos. Whatever game you move on to, I hope it has even half the depth to discover
I think a lot of people have moved on from the game (creators and viewers) which is fair given the single player limited nature. I am hoping to keep making Cyberpunk content fairly regularly but will have to intersplice it with other games. There's games with plenty of depth but are gonna take a lot of research for me to learn about to create videos like this for them.
@@SamBram 2077’s new content’ll be continuing the FF06B5 mystery
@@SamBram I think it would be a lot of fun to start covering more lore from the table top games. I am particularly interested in the sheet amount of bio-plagues
@@SamBram After digging around in the files myself for a while now, let me just say - there's more stuff STILL being added very cleverly every update. They know we dig around and will use really weird naming conventions and stuff to try and throw us off the scent.
It's also a reference to half Life.
Queen Lilith being Alt could also be a reference to the fact that Alt is essentially in control of Hong Kong in the greater lore. She basically moved in and took over the city after a plague left it uninhabitable to humans,
Wasn't that city Busan in Korea?
wrong
Cyberpunk Red Worldbook p.11: "NET is officially down. Alt Cunningham establishes the Ghost World in the ruins of bio-destroyed Hong Kong. As everything in HK is dead, the Chinese government puts a 100-foot wall around HK to keep the plague contained."
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 She controls both cities
Don't forget the "Big In Japan" questline. When you finish the quest, Dennis offers you Scalpel as your reward. Then his eyes glow blue, and a completely different voice - new voice actor and all - tells you, "may this blade serve you well." An outside party wants to make sure you have one of the best katanas in Night City, a blade that has no history behind it.
It's a Devil May Cry easter egg, iirc. The "May this blade serve you well" is said by Virgil and the blue eyes are often seen when people transfer money.
@@empty-voiid blue eyes are commonly money but are all data transfers, including when AIs speak through people. its referenced in the lore
@@mattb6616 Oh I know, just wanted to point out it did not necessarily meant that the Big in Japan guy was used by AIs.
That whole mission feels like its a big joke. The whole story of the doctor is an Office reference and the sword is another reference if what the other guy said is true.
@@peterchasten2790i thought it was a trauma center reference.
Alpha Centauri is Nightcorp's codeword for Arasaka Corporation
Ancestors Eyes = AI's
All of this has me praying I am alive for the next cyberpunk2077 game
@@sukirinaa Cyberpunk 2077 took 4-5 years to develop. They started after the last dlc for the witcher. So 2027-2029. And I bet it's going to take place in 2077 again.
@@Jv19979 considering one of the DLC endings display life in 2079, I feel like at the very least Theres gonna be a 2 year time jump
Has anybody ever seen Sam Bram and Gary the Prophet in the same room at the same time? Maybe that's where they took Gary. Into our world, and now Gary is Sam; still trying to warn us.
Those damned reptilians from Alpha Centauri!
I feel having some supernatural elements in cyberpunk is really fun. As long as they are not stricly labeled as supernatural, but just seems like it through the player's eye. It is a bonkers advanced world with secret technology beyond even all the game's characters comprehension. It is a world where there are so many mysteries that are either seemingly impossible to solve or long forgotten. The Arthur Clarke quote that "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" fits so well within the setting. There for adding things like the net and the entities within being "discovered" are great additions, and making these entities seem supernatural adds a lot for me at least.
"only playable at night" That's not right? I've always played Bloody Ritual during the day, even then it freaked me out.
Strangely, I've done it a number of times but I don't recall ever doing it during the day...
I think that is because Bloody Ritual is only unlockable at night, but if for some reason you leave the area and come back during the day you can still play it... at least that happened to me once, but of course it's more enjoyable at night
@@villainzlover4948 Ah that would explain it, turns out it was just a weird coincidence that I've unlocked it 3 different times but only gone back to play it during the day.(again, unintentionally, it was just daytime when I managed to get around to it.) Cheers!
A 1 hour Sam Bram video on my favorite cyberpunk rabbit hole? We eating good tonight
20:50 if you use your scan during this scene you can see zaria perched on boxes in the area watching you.
And then she disappears. That absolutely freaked me out. Easily my favorite cyberpsycho encounter.
Edit: You can see her at 20:56 specifically. Scan not needed.
There’s some more evidence that potentially hints at night corp having way more people under control in Night city politics than just the people related to Peralez. If you talk to the ripper doc who gives you the smart link at the beginning of the game and gives you the joke tattoo when you give Johnny control over your body later in the game, he talks about how a suit in city hall randomly went crazy and in a spur of the moment idea tattooed “fuck nightcorp” on his forehead. The whole thing seems really similar to Jefferson’s paranoia to me.
On the Killing Moon mission, you see Blue Eyes 3 times, not 2. The first time you see him was inside the airport where if you make your rounds to look for an entry point to bring Songbird in, there’s a guy named Mysterious Stranger watching you with glowing blue eyes. If you haven’t found your way out to get Songbird in and make eye contact with him, he walks to the restroom. If you follow him, he stops right outside the one with the broken ceiling and then walks out - effectively leading you into the right area.
There’s also another section during the funeral of Kurt Hansen when the others are gathering. A barghest soldier’s eyes flash blue and lingers for a few minutes before vanishing. Blue Eyes was present, observing it all before dipping out of the body which I assume it was a doll.
If you also read No Coincidence, the cyberpunk book that just came out, he appears once again and you quickly learn what his goals are. Along with what Jefferson might actually be.
I thought the "suspicious stranger" was part of Myers group, if I'm correct we are shown him talking or being near Myers or reed, maybe there was two mysterious strangers? I don't do the killing moon path that often so my memory might be a bit fuzzy.
I planned this theory video from behind the scenes along
-Mr Blue Eyes
From the Paralez call, the caller refers to itself as "we". This sounded weird and reall resonated with on instance in Dogtown when a random homeless npc suddenly became hostile and said "we are the legion", implying a rogue AI.
When Songbird is "possessed" by rogue AI(s) during the Cynosure mission she also uses "we" to refer to herself
A man with implanted glowing blue eyes, a black suit with a white jacket underneath, a global schemer and manipulator with powerful connections. If I had a nickel for every time I saw such a character in video games, I'd have two nickels. Weird that both of those games are Action Shooter RPGs where your choices affect everything.
CD Projekt said, fuck that we’re gonna do it but stick the landing
36:25 "Carpe noctem, lamia! Decet diem excecrari." are the lyrics from the musical Dance of the Vampires
The words the maelstrom ganger says about the wolf mother descending from the moon and the wolf father claiming his children's names are patricide, comes from the world of darkness books for werewolves. That's the werewolf creation myth in Werewolf the Awakening. And why the pure hate the tribes.
Wait doesn’t the moon tarot card have wolves on it in this game?
“Carpe noctem, lamia!“
[Seize the night, vampire!]
(you could translate lamia with “horrifying, child eating and/or blood sucking creature“, as well)
“Decet diem exsecrari“
[It is right to curse the day]
(it is right / it is appropriate)
Doesn't the homeless conspiracy guy talk about vampires and blue eyed aliens from Alpha Centauri?
Excellent video. Unless my memory is failing, just noticed that both Jefferson Peralez and Mr Blue Eyes repeat the exact same line of dialogue referring to "dropping out", saying they'd "take a hit" if they did.
You missed something very important about Alt that makes the whole 'Alt is Lilith' thing make a lot more sense. The 'Tenth circle of hell' likely refers to the Ghost City of Hong Kong, which is a refuge for AI made out of the old internet infrastructure in what was left of Hong Kong after it got wiped out by a plague. Something else of note is that everything that's crossed the Blackwall has been a human, which is why I suspect 'human blood' is needed in the Bloody Ritual. My suspicion is that there is some kind of flaw in the Blackwall which allows things connected to humanity to pass though, and the AI the ritual was meant to draw out was trying to create a bridge it could cross over through.
Hell’s tenth circle is so funny to me cuz on one hand you’re being sent to super mega hell. But Inferno is part of a trilogy and as you descend past the 9th circle, it inverts and you arrive in purgatorio
In that sense, many things in night city can be seen as a type of purgatory like mikoshi
If you read the Cyberpunk lore books you'll learn that there's a digital equivalent of a physical distance between LDLs(Long Distance Link - How Netrunners quickly travel between locations like London to Tokyo), called Wilderspace. This is usually an empty space in between LDLs, like a desert or an ocean.
They(netrunners) elude to a myth that something is lurking within Wilderspace, only choosing when it wants to link to the Net, by bypassing LDL and regional security. Some say Rogue AI, perhaps. Because in the net, you can disguise and make yourself look like anything you desire.
Thank you for an incredibly deep dive into a subject that has become unintentionally a major part of the game lore
me when a new lore vid drops:😁
me when it’s an hour long: 🤩
Mr Blue Eyes giving me Gaunter O'Dimm vibes
_Vagrant? That a profession now?_
During the Dream On questline, it is possible to air dash+double-jump to where Mr Blue Eyes is. I did it a couple of times, and after standing behind him and aiming weapons at him (game does not allow you to shot him), he despawns just like Garry's assistant does... completely vanishes. I also though it could be a glitch, but now I think it is a weird coincidence both of those despawn in the same way, since no other character seems to act like that when right in front of you.
Finally, a dedicated vid on _'The Modern Day G-Man'_ of Cyberpunk 2077.
Before watching, I know I can thank you in advance for an _hour long video!_ I have watched all your Cyberpunk theory videos, some multiple times, so this will be a real treat, thank you!
You continue to look into us, good on you. However, you may not find the answers you're looking for once they are found.
Who is Mr Blue Eyes!? Is he working for you? TELL ME!!!
“Not actually apart of cyberpunk lore. Just a fan.” My ass lol
*Carpe Noctem, Lamia. Decent Diem Excecrari - Seize the Night.* Project Oracle Command, Execute Plans.
@@SamBrami have another option in mind for mr.BlueEyes... what if he is a good guy? Helping Songbird escape Myers and therefore stopping her interactions with the black wall and not giving Myers that power. He also appears during the Peralez conversation but there is no actual mention of why he is there. Maybe he wants to observe the situation and V. He is in a very visible position also..
"Lilith has concealed the Tenth circle from the Ancestors eyes"
Tenth Circle = Night City
Ancestors Eyes = A I
Lilith, who or whatever they are, has prevented the AI's beyond the Blackwall from realizing that there is a breach leading to Night City, therefore allowing access to/from the Old Net completely unmolested
I believe the lilith AI is Alt, when you first meet her she asks do you think shes a demon sarcastically.
It's a shame V didn't consider copying the files from the van in Dream On before opening any of them. Makes sense for a non-netrunner V, but a netrunner V should have known to copy the data first, get to safety, check it for malware, and THEN read it. And I definitely agree that if nothing V did or said made any difference, they wouldn't have bothered to send the threats.
Techno necromancers are literally the same as Neomancer, In the seminal cyberpunk book Neromancer Chase (the main character) reanimates old and dead engrams of hackers, much like Johnny Silverhand is neromanced into existence in CP 2077.
On Lilith: She is an AI from beyond the Blackwall, which Maelstrom ferry through the wall with the ritual. Much like there are AIs in Cynosure, if you read the terminals there. Zaria couldn't handle such an advanced AI. Our technology is too primitive for them, which is why they haven't launched an open assault yet. Alt confirms that in the Aldecaldo ending if you have obtained the Canto/Erebus. As to why Maelstrom did it, they worship chrome and AIs. Much like the VDBs, they will happily side with AIs in the war to come. I enjoyed this video, but ngl, it is a tad long. Still, good job!
I believe the lilith AI is Alt, when you first meet her she asks you do you think shes a demon sarcastically.
In regards to Netwatch propaganda, yes. Could be.
Interestingly enough, the Unknown Caller who contacts V after obtaining the crafting specs for the Canto and/or Erebus knows exactly who you are and strongly insists that you craft one of the two items. Plus, you are also contacted by Unknown Caller after you send So Mi to the Moon.
I suspected that every victim of Blackwall Breach was effectively soul killed, that the Canto/Erebus stole their minds to “learn” as the caller put it.
I have a theory that cyberpunk orion is going to have the don't fear the reaper ending become canon and v (who survives with the help of mr blue eyes) have to work with him (and by extension, nightcorp). It could also have lilith do a johnny move and live in someone's head
YES, finally. I've been waiting for your take on this. Thank you as always
Every time I got ready to type out a "ahh, but there's more..." comment, you covered what I was about to type, lol. Absolutely love that you made a video on one of my favorite rabbit holes in the game and did the diligent research neccessary to show how compelling this entirely missable conspiracy is. My man.
I have been waiting for soooooo long for this
i feel like i've been asking for a deep dive into the Peralez's missions for ages now, and this is even better!! great work!!
HELL YES! It's here! Thank you Sam for this mega video!
I have been anticipating this video for so long! Thank you so much!!! ❤❤
im so glad u made this video. hes probably one of the most interesting characters and feels like hes always behind the scenes, even though you see him less than a handful of times throughout the game
Legit starting reading The Divine Comedy today… scary how the universe works sometimes. The comparisons between it and the game are awesome! Great work choomba.
Always waiting for a new video!
I have been waiting for this since 100k. Nice
After watching all of this, and understanding the ff 06 b5 aspect of the game, I am now somewhat terrified when Gary's follower disappears right in front of my eyes.
The only discrepancy is that her clothes vanish too. Polyhistors didn't (unless he removed them beforehand for some reason...). But yes it's eerily similar
You are still the defining CP77 UA-camr and content creator - I still come back and watch your awesome vids even though I've not hopped onto CP77 in a minute. Once again thank you so much choom!
I love these videos you make. I learn so much and it just brings me into this games universe more every time. Thank you, good sir, for all of it 🙏🏼
I've been waiting for a proper Mr Blue Eyes breakdown video for ages, thanks Sam
really appreciating the effort you put into your videos!
Thank you Sam! This was A TON of work! Can’t wait for Alt for 1h !
My period is in the bloody ritual when our optics got messed with was the AI Lilith trying to kill us thin and there, but not being powerful enough in the physical realm
Best video yet, phenomenal job!
Well, well! Sam with a sponsorship now? HUGE congrats, choom.
You are the absolute man for doing videos like this. Much appreciated
Hey Sam, do you think you could do a video on a topic? Or at least, look into it? One thing that has never sat right with me is the contrived nature of 2077's plot. The story structure sees you ousted from your old life into the arms of a merc whose personality traits and connections give you _just_ enough resources to bounce back. And then, after just 6 months, you get handpicked for the biggest job in NC since the Arasaka Tower raid by a fixer who seemingly came out of retirement for no reason. There are shady connections all over the place, and Saburo just _happens_ to show up on the night of the heist. Things happen, you get chipped with Johnny, and various circumstances see the right person with the right amount of desperation and the right skills, being in the perfect situation to deliver exactly what Alt needs to do what she has been trying to do for literal decades.
Now, the real answer is probably just bad writing. But that's no fun. My idea is that there is some kind of grand puppetmaster at play here. Too many things happen at just the right time, in just the right way, to exactly the right people for all of it to be coincidence. It smells like a conspiracy to me. Somebody is trying to bridge the Blackwall. And V, Jackie, Dex, Saburo, Netwatch, Alt, VDB, and even SoMi were all manipulated to make it happen.
The final outcome based on the most logical, and thematically appropriate endings sees Alt penetrating Mikoshi, basically gaining an army of digitized psyches. Arasaka being heavily wounded, their entire leadership structure in complete ruins. The Canto being built and used to spread AI malware around various systems. And the President's misdeeds with the Blackwall being covered up and kept secret.
Everything sets the stage for an AI invasion across the Blackwall. And I think someone or something planned all the major events of 2077 to make it happen.
I played all those missions and definitly felt something was missing, never picked up on this through line. So cool!
Thanks for putting it together.
Brilliant work Sam, that’s is just top quality Cyberpunk content 👌🏼
8:10 it reminds me of the conjuration insignia, as for the symbolism. It has open ended spikes on the up down left right with the conjuration tooth, can mean " conjure the old" and the corners have arrows over the spike like houses so those could mean "in with our will" so it can mean " through our sights, we conjure the old to be within our will." Or "all seeing source, out with the old and in with our conjured will" and most likely blue eyes calling card because he has been watching the entire event go down
Congrats on 100k my dude! I recommend yours and WiseFish's videos to those who want a deeper dive into the Cyberpunk lore
1) Nomads are werewolves is reference for biotecnika illegal experiments on nomads. 2) Lilith is Alt. She is the mother of cyberdemons (iskins) 3) I believe all the kaboki heist is Alts plan. She connected with voodoo boys as an Lilith . Nightcorp and kiroshi knows about alt and wanted to use her for something. Alt(lilith) probably will be free is cyberpunk 2 she got ount of mikoshi in majority of the endings
Got my snacks and cyberpunk on
Okay i'm ready for a new theory by Sam 😂
This video certainly earned my subscription, fantastic work, I love your thoroughness and ability to explain it all plainly! Thank you!
I love how smooth that ad was slid in
Great video! Genuinely enjoyed it. I only wish there were more on him so it could've been longer
What an amazing video. Great work !
I love these crazy dives into even crazier theories ! I'd love to see at least some of these plots resolved in the future, but if they are, I'm pretty sure answers will be very different of what is theorised ! It's so often the case.
Anyway, really nice work on this video, thx
Thank you for all your work this is The only cyberpunk channel you will ever need when you play cyberpunk 2077.
Thanks for this mammoth video, you help bring this amazing game to life!
You should do a full cp2077 iceberg type video. This felt kinda like that and that kind of video would be super fun to watch! Great video btw!
Great video Sam! Some good work here
The design of the net runner symbol reminds me a bit of the central roundabout park in downtown NC, where the corps have their towers.
Holy cow, an hour long Sam Bram video? I guess sleep can wait!
Sam, you're the goat! thanks for all the quality content choom
Was just thinking about the blue eyed men after finishing the game for the first time, and low and behold the legend Sam Bram had made a video about it. Keep up the great work man.
Ha! Her disappearance happened to me last playthrough and was wondering if it was a game glitch or an extension of the narrative of not being able to fully trust your eyes in this game.
I feel like if we get a cyberpunk 2 this is gonna be the plotline, who wouldn't love a "Manchurian candidate dystopian" story line? that's top tier
When I noticed them i thought of FireFly tv show.. "2 by 2 hands of blue". not eyes, but ... triggered every time.
Great video, was really excited to hear more about the whole Mr Blue Eyes thing. There is evidently a lot I missed when playing the game through twice. Oh and congrats on your sponsor! Been using GG for years, great brand.
Awesome video mate ! Just to add on the Zaria rewritting your optics to hide herself on the go thing, before you actually go up to the bath and start her animation of her getting out the bath you can actually see her in the area but only a second before the screen has a flicker effect and she disappears. She actaully despawn from where you saw her and reappears at a different random spawn and if you catch her again the same thing happens until you start the encounter by going to the bath. Really cool once you know
Holy 1 hour video from sam 🥰🥰
Thank u for this
I really believe that the Garry quest was supposed to be a teaser for one of the two planned dlcs, especially considering the unfinished vampire caves in the badlands
Amazing, can’t wait til the Alt video!
In the list of other mind control subjects, we also have someone last name Ward(like our gun-fu detective ward)
So this may be an overall hint that until Project Condin, targets were influenced through their family.
A new sam 1 hour cyberpunk video ? This is christmas come early
Buddy I don't know why you think nobody wants an hour-long vid from you. We do, stop thinking we don't. ❤
This conspiracy rabbit hole has always been the most intriguing sub-plot in Cyberpunk for me (as I'm sure it is for many other people), so I'm glad you went out of your way to piece most of the relevant pieces and scenes together for us. I've tried my best to keep tabs on some of it myself but there's a lot to keep track of that may or may not be connected. haha I'm not sure if we'll ever get proper answers or not, but it's certainly an interesting side-story that they threw in there for 'flavour' if nothing more ever comes of it.
Great video Sam!
This was a great watch!
I think a lot of the Ritual/NightCorp/Blackwall bit can be addressed by acknowledging that Night City as well as the story (Oftentimes the background story in this case) moves forward whether V intervenes or not, that is to say, there's a lot going on in the background that we can pick signs off, you can meet Panam talking with Nash in the Afterlife when you are going to see Dexter, for example, you can see cops recreating a cyberpsycho incident near Misty's Esoterica and the cyberpsycho looks remarkably similar to Peter Horvath (As well as the Cyberpsycho that offs Pilar in Edgerunners) and the story moves forward.
From there, we could deduce that the AI's beyond the Blackwall are learning, even if they don't acquire a physical form, they need "storage" on this side of the Blackwall, Maelstrom being so into the occult, mysticism, and cyberpsychosis, as well as having a heavy cyberware load by default, may have appeared as an ideal means to "carry" an AI from the Blackwall to this side, not taking in consideration the limitations/stress of the human brain, or maybe they did which is why they picked a female Maelstromer for the Ritual and, ultimately, it did not work.
If we take that in consideration, Mr. Blue Eyes being a proxy is a theory that becomes easier to accept, whether it's a high profile corpo with insane pull an influence, or his identity has been scrubbed by the AI's themselves, what's evident is that by his optics we can assume he's perpetually engaged in a data transmission of sort (Optics during a call tend to be gold tinted, and a Doll usually has their optics in a pink/lilac hue as well, blue is usually the default color when accepting or issuing a transaction). Sadly, as much as I'd love to think this is Morgan Blackhand working in cahoots with Night City after leaving Militech, I don't think that's the case. There's obviously a bunch of cut content when they went with Keanu Reeves as Johnny Silverhand, there was a lot of going back and rewriting the plot. For instance, character creation alone changed significantly, there was an option to name a childhood hero in your character creator which makes me think that originally there would have been more than one construct we could end up with.
I also don't think Alt is Alt, Cyberpunk RED motions to a different story that maybe explains the whole Alt thing as well as the damaged Johnny Silverhand engram. But speaking of growing background stories, there's mention of a Ghost City Alt builds for wandering AI as well as engrams (I presume), and when presented with a plan to raid Mikoshi, she points out that she has tried before, by using what Johnny calls "Children of the Net", this to me proves that the AI are trying different things all the time to cross over beyond just shattering the Wall.
It's entirely possible NightCorp is in on it, or at the very least, it's very aware. If they struck a deal, it would make sense for the AI's to help them develop all the mind controlling projects, while in return NightCorp works on finding ways to bring AI's to this side and even using them, as some sort of symbiotic relationship. That would explain Mr. Blue Eyes' stance as well.
All and all it's a fascinating topic, on one hand I hate that they left it like that, with more questions than answers, on the other hand, this only makes me hope that this plot is picked up by Orion and greatly expanded upon, and that the team takes whatever time they need to deliver a solid story.
One sort of important detail: Lamia doesn't just mean vampire. Lilith is sometimes considered a Hebrew translation of the demon Lamiah. So that phrase Carpe Noctum Lamia is much more direct than just vampires.
Motherf***** I thought it was Maelstrom in that van I missed the whole "Agents" running to the AV. I could watch 2077 lore for ages love the video man 👌
An interesting idea.
The blackwall ai is trying to get a physical incarnation via maelstrom because they need to hunt down the rogue ai that are loose in the city (Mr blue eyes)
Just a thought :)
I missed the maelstrom eye hue difference, thanks for mentioning it.
It's brought up in the info when you scan the cultists. Something about an atypical colour. It's only very slight tbf
1:00:22 Reminds me of the ending of original Deus Ex where you chose the ending becoming a cyber-AI god controlling the people so there wouldn't no more needless war and starvation.
Thanks for putting this together. You always do such a good job of tying all the threads together.
The supernatural aspect of the net and AI is something that you can find in some of William Gibson's later cyberpunk writings. (It's the inspiration for the Voodoo Boys in a lot of ways, with AI taking on the aspects of Haitian deities in Count Zero.) So, I wouldn't put it past CDPR to incorporate it into Cyberpunk 2077.
But, I'd like to take a moment and really give CDPR some congratulations. They did an amazing job on Cyberpunk 2077. It's not often that a game comes out that has so much depth in it to generate this much conversation even over 3 years after its release.
A video 1 hour of Sam Bram yapping about an unknown theory, oh boy its gonna be a banger 😂 Love the video already even tho I havent watch yet
The best cyberpunk youtuber love you videos choom