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Btw may I say fuckin proud of yah! I'm so glad and really astonished how much this channel grew since we where just b.s.. and bouncing info off each other! Honestly bro thank you! I hope when Orion comes the rest of these hooms see the bigger pic! Love yah and stay safe if in this world bro! Can't wait till the next live as you know like talking in real time!😂🎉
illusive? like illusory? like illusion? OR DO YOU MEAN ELUSIVE? as in hard to comprehend, find, or get? it's been six months. might do with fixing that typo and re-releasing the vid
@@MrOrchidion Illusive means "deceptive". I also used it as a reference to the Illusive Man from Mass Effect. It's been six months and you're the only one to say something because it isn't a typo and makes sense.
There's just something special about this game that has kept me playing thru 7 runs and almost 800 hours so far. This is what I imagined back in the 90's playing the Tabletop version, and just hopping on a bike and roaring out into the bad lands to watch the stars can fill hours of my time. As much as I'll always revere Gary Gygax for the wonder of D&D, Mike Pondsmith created something that grabbed me immediately and has led me to the Cyberpunk novels of Gibson/ Stevenson/ and many others over the decades. This game has so much knowledge secreted away if you pay attention, so many threads to follow, it never gets old. I can't wait to see what the new Orion game has in store, and even if V isn't a part of it, I will be more than happy to create a new character and explore the next chapter they create. Awesome video about the history of Night City, and the shady deals that went on back then.
You fucking get it dude.. I know it was really flawed. Downright Shocking how incomplete it seemed even. BUT THE RP made me love this game day one on a base ps4 I fucking loved the City, the characters, how V interacted with all of it to play out the story
Finished 3× so far, getting my 4th now, with Phantom Liberty. It will likely be my last unless I return much later but it will not be for quite some time. The city and setting is great, but like many other games (Fallout 3+, Witcher, Skyrim) I never get the wow feeling of grandeur that I did get in Arma 3, Test Drive Unlimited 2 and especially Fuel. Yes travel times are longer, but you can really get lost in a large world. Unlikely it would be a thing for consoles though.
Mr.BlueEyes is AI or AI Agent softening the ground work for the upcoming crumbling of the Blackwall, whether his AI faction is Good or Evil remains to be seen. This along the Lilith Cyberpsycho situation, highly supersticious gang like the Voodo boys desperate trying to get a pass and AI protection, Songbird hellish blackwall abilities and the author of the franchise Mike Pondsmith himself narrating "conspiracy" theories on Morro radio about what Bartmoss encountered in the net back in the days of the Datakrash, its setting a nice theme of whats going to happen in the next Cyberpunk title. Bartmoss discovered hell and opened its doors... Prepare for the coming of the daemons.
Being in cyberspace passing through the blackwall is the creepiest unsettling feeling in the game, hearing those noises the rogue AIs trying to break through the blackwall
Can't be saying that choom you be labeled as a conspiracy nut! Lmfao but no full heartedly agree! Now what's to be seen is Murphy still trying to make the actual Alt Cunningham whole again? What was Hellman getting at when they had a suitable hoist that the engram was already "familiar with" until V intervened? So many questions!
They’re called Demons for a reason. A short sighted programmer created a cyber space hell full of demons of his own creation that even generations after the fact people still live in fear of rouge AI infecting people’s minds
@@JohnnySilverwrench Isn't there already an Alt Cunningham in the meatspace? I think Black Dog in cyberpunk red has a bunch of mercs delivering Johnny's body from NC to Alt somewhere else.
What if the body isn’t Morgan blackhand but, instead it’s Morgan blackhand’s construct inside a random corpo’s body. It’d explain why nobody recognizes him and why his character model is named after him.
At the end of Phantom Liberty when sneaking through the spaceport I thought I saw a man see me from an office window from afar me only for to zoom in and see Mr Blue Eyes. He is the G Man from Half Life of Cyberpunk.
That's how I discovered Mr. Blue eyes in my first playthrough. Was completely surprised to see him again in the Peralez quest and absolutely flabbergasted upon meeting him during "The Sun" ending
For me it's the option I like the most. That Mr Blue Eyes is controlled by Rogue AIs beyond the Blackwall. Night Corp tried to do it in their project, but actual rogue AIs breached the Blackwall and are now controlling Night Corp, or at least very influtential people inside and outside of Night Corp...maybe even other corporations too. But I would like to see a corporation, maybe Arasaka, given its resources, to be aware of this rogue AI plan, maybe even connecting to Yorinobu and the dramatic events of the game...the possibilities are just endless in such a fascinating concept!
Morgan Blackhand was captured, it's his memories you are seeing from the aircraft carrier leaving Night City, when the nuke goes off in the corpo tower. Johny's mind was uploaded to the chip back at the tower before Morgan was captured.
Nah he survived, if he was captured Adam would be boasting about it. I'm pretty sure the alteration of the engram happened through angels tampering and radiation. Angel is the biggest link here to how johnny survives.
Sending songbird to the moon followed by the reaper seems to be the possible canon ending i just wish we gonna get more also in the spaceport there are other people with blue eyes one pointing the camera at you
There’s a theme of “secret” endings in game where it’s the probable most likely canon like in Mass effect with Shepard being alive, I think corpo V soloing saka tower could very well be canon and makes most sense playing the whole game and PL with corpo V than nomad or street kid, still feel when CDPR will decide what to make canon they’ll be bleak about what happened to V just like how Morgan blackhand is in 2077 if V isn’t the main protagonist next game but I feel they will be and CDPR can take V to phenomenal levels of badass
@@EternalNightingale I'm just a uneducated fool but I don't think CDPR would give all these connections but sweep it under the rug. DFTR seems connected to helping Songbird and we keep seeing Blue Eyes. Why keep showing this guy seems important. Then again I am still playing and learning the lore of this game that just leaves me with questions.
@@EternalNightingale maybe thats true but canon V would absolutely be Streetkid V - V acts streetkid regardless of what backstory you pick in the current game anyways, and having connections to Padre makes V more believable as rising so quickly in NC... Also, Streetkid V and Nomad both make the dynamic more interesting in Johnny since they really do have nothing in common (unlike Johnny and Corpo V) which makes their eventual bonding as they change into each other much more fascinating
@@salmon_wineI think corpo V is the best V imo. I feel like a lot of how you play story games like this is just sorta filling in information on your own, making a story in some way for your character. I think the story that corpo V gets booted for corpo bs, and then going to rob Arasaka is a cool story. It’s made even cooler if you do the reaper ending. Any ending kinda makes some sense if you choose corpo v. Raiding the tower alone? Last chance to stick it to Saka. Leave NC with Panam? Corpo V knows there are no winners in NC. Side with saka? Can’t entirely leave the life behind. I think it’s the best and seeing the ex corpo V being unwillingly teamed ip with extremely anti corpo Johnny.
Morgan Blackhand was present during the attack on Arasaka Tower in 2023, but is completely absent from Johnny's memory in game. In addition to this, there also seems to be various gaps or errors in Johnny's perspective of events, which has been attributed to radiation damage, errors in copying his engram, and him being an unreliable narrator. However, if it were just errors in Johnny's memory, why is Blackhand completely absent from the entire attack, and all of Johnny's memories throughout the game? I wonder if this could be related to Nightcorp's mind control technology, is it possible they could have erased Blackhand's presence from Johnny's memory, or altered it in other ways?
The engram V got most likely an edited copy of the original engram. The theories and lore in this game and overall universe are crazy awesome. Can't wait to see what's next.
You can spot more blue eyed people at NCX during the songbird's quest there. And I might be wrong but they can be seen in other places (not talking about mr blue eyes)
@@ReachTea Correct, happens whenever they are paying someone infront of them or sending data. Happens with everyone including children what can be seen during the PL mission where you are getting a code from towers and you talk to the kid there, pay them to help you.
@@neondeneko3215 If you follow this logic, the blue eyed people are constantly uploading and receiving data, which honestly is a pretty good give away for them being rogue AI.
@@neondeneko3215 yes but not all are transactions as Mr. BlueEyes eyes stays consistently white and if you pay attention when you're escaping with Somi he's standing above orbital watching the destruction y'all just commenced with the blackwall! Somi tells you a man with strange blue eyes funded her to go to moon...As well as if you play the rogue ending you find out he funded your raids....I believe Blue Eyes is possessed from beyond the wall from maybe one of our favorite netrunners....
Keep an eye out for characters hands. There's a Ring that people of intrest wear. Has a big JG on it. I think it stands for JinGuji. Sombody has to be giving these Blue eye guys they clothes! There's a connection I just don't know it.
See, there's one very interesting link that I don't really see explored anywhere. Namely, the eyes. It's the same eyes that the dolls have when they are controlled by the personality chip implanted in them. That practically tells you that Mr. Blue-Eyes and his kind are likely just hosts for someone or something else. It could be that they're being used by a local program - and considering what complex interaction the doll chips allow for, there's zero doubt that significantly more can be achieved. Or it could be that they're controlled remotely. Just like Hanako remote-controlled that doll when talking to V in the main storyline. But does this give us anything? Why yes, I think it really does. While you rightly point out that Richard Night wasn't soul-killed, there's no guarantee that another technology wasn't used - like mapping out his brain, for instance, or recreating his personality in the digital realm by various means. It wouldn't work as well as Soulkiller, but it could work well enough. And that's before you even consider that he didn't actually die in '98. His killer was never caught, but that's not the main thing. His life was constantly threatened and it was a matter of time until someone actually succeeded. You can't kill what's already dead, so his "death" took care of the threat. The wife took over and followed in his footsteps, which sounds mighty convenient, to have someone who intimately knows their partner's business strategies, etc. I think we can safely say that it's well within the realm of probability that he just staged his own death and led from the shadows ever since. And it's a much smarter move than what Saburo ever did. Saburo was out in the open, a clear, visible, tangible target. The "already dead" Richard Night can't even be a target at this point for his enemies. And since Saburo survived much longer than Richard Night, living well over 100 years for someone with that kind of money and influence. It's even likely that he's still around in 2077 and that he's using people with the doll implant or a similar technology. He can probably even switch between multiple hosts on the fly since the personality chip can take over when needed. And what better way is there for someone like Richard to keep an eye on things and keep them on-track from the shadows? It could also be AIs, from beyond the Blackwall or not.
Wonder if FIA know anything about blue eyes, they’re very well informed about almost everything even what happened in Konpeki plaza im sure they have some files
Yes and no 😄 the thing is I have the world of cyberpunk book and you have really less information about Night Corp. FIA knows something but look you talk with Songbird about mr.blue eyes and she looks and sounds like she have no idea who he actually is and songbird is a A+1 high level Netrunner, netrunners skills are informations and high knowledge about secrets and more and she have 0 idea!? or she lie to you again 😄
Blue eyes was probably the one to orchestrate so mi to get the neural matrix and was behind her plan all along from betraying FIA, V, myers, Hansen…. She prolly went back to blue eyes during the time after the stadium to the spaceport so he set her up to leave to the moons black clinic and jobs done
The Night corp is probably one of the few corps that actually kept things down consistently, so much to the point not even NUSA has any idea what they're planning, if anyone has an idea, it's likely Maelstrom, the AI who are in touch with Night Corp and the highest level of Night corp themselves
Such a good video summarizing all this interconnected stuff. I hope all this gets some sort of tie-together in the sequel. Or maybe it should remain a G-man esque mystery, dont know. But great video on this! Liked!
Thank you for this, cause IO just finished Phantom Liberty and I saw in some videos about Mr. Blue eyes and I don't recall seeing him ever...but I went into PL after the voodoo boys quest
Let Johnny and Rogue go to Mikoshi, then choose to let V back in the body in the end. V becomes the leader of the Afterlife and has a meeting with Mr. Blue eyes who sends him on a mission to space promising him “more than he even imagined”
Side note takemura says they arisaka can take a incomplete engram from a dead body so the theory of Richard might being the blue eyed man isn’t out the window
Was waiting for a new video, let’s go. CDPR are building up to something crazy in Orion, Mr Blue Eyes and his other friends will play a key part I fear
I believe that whenever Mr.B appears these choices will be canon, and sending Songbird into space along with the Crystal Palace heist make sense for the theme of the Cyberpunk world.
@@AveChristusRex789I think the writers at cdpr are probably fans of Neuromancer. The story line were V survives but loses their ability to use cyberwear is Case’s backstory verbatim. Plus the mission that Case embarks on is in a space station lead by a guy controlled by AI. There are so many similarities that I find it hard to imagine it won’t be a rewrite of Neuromancer. With an AI either promising to get rid of the chip or give back V their ability to use cyberwear.
@@AveChristusRex789 If they continue with Vs story it is most likely going to have something do with the crystal palace heist. He gets contracted by blue eyes (who is a pawn for an advanced but trapped AI) to break out the AI from a wealthy family who lives in the crystal palace. There are three possible reasons for V to do this. The first one a promise to remove chip. The second to remove the chip before the heist but at the same time sowing in toxic sacs that will slowly release poison. The third would continue from the ending where V successfully removes the chip. Mr blue eyes therefore restores their ability to use cyberwear along with the toxic sacs.
Once I was fighting some group, I think Maelstrom, and I was running a modded new-game plus, so I had max stats at start, I was able to jump on top of a building for one of the crime things, and I had seen an invisible AV on a roof with some invisible guys running to it and it taking off and flying away while Maelstrom or whatever started attacking me, I'll see if I can re-discover it some day
@@ashbajwa8965 I had found it again, it was this quest line, you can find people talking about it on google, if you can manage to kill them you can get a shard dropped
The interesting thing about the rogue AI theory is that so far we ALWAYS see red colors. The Blackwall (which is an AI), Alt, Songbird, the core, the Cerberus robot, etc. are all depicted as red. Songbirds eyes are red too, not blue. Minor detail? Perhaps. But maybe it's also a clue that either the blue eyed ppl are not AI or, at the least, not ROGUE AI from beyond the Blackwall. Imagine different AI working behind the scenes to protect humanity FROM the rogue AIs. They are morally more neutral and ends justifies the means sort of entities, thereby explaining why they do horrible things to ppl like Jeffersons. It's for the good of the collective. Just my 2 cents!
Could also be one of the ''angels'' from the crystal palace, kicked out by his own teammates for whatever reason and now since he can't get back in, he entrusts only a living god with the gig.
i think one of Mr blue eyes pupose in the game is to take control of big corporations , especially Arasaka in this game which we see that he succeded in the ending when we meet him , I think the real bomb for arasaka is the Relic containing a programmed psyche of Silverhand by CN-07 , i think Hellman made some modification to the relic to become the next bomb , ( maybe Yorinobu tried that Relic that's why he was Holding much hatred for Arasaka & killed his father) , i think hellman linked CN-07 to the Relic to take control of Saburo's psyche (because it was designed for him , that's why some Ai can see through V's eyes & show her signs (tarot cards) , Hellman didn't complete working in the chip that's why V is not entierly controlled by the chip, also the relic is linked to the Ai beyond the blackwall we can't shoot mr blue eyes when we meet Jefferson peralez , when Alt removes Johnny engram who's possibly inffected , V lost her connection to the Ai this is when Mr blue eyes comes personaly to meet V . (this just a theory i could be wrong ).
Cant say I wasn't expecting you to make this video.What I take from all these appearances is that sending Songbird to the moon,and the Dont fear the reaper with the Crystal palace intro are the canon choices,firstly because they set the dominoes for the next game in the saga.Also I hope we get in some way (as an intro mission in Orion for example,the Crystal Palace heist that was cut from being dlc.).
If Mr. Blue Eyes is really a Rogue AI from beyond the Black Wall controlling things behind the scenes, intentionally sent Songbird who has Black Wall programs and viruses running through her systems, to the Crystal Palace, has apocalyptic implications for everyone. He even wants to send V up there (with a rogue construct in the skull). It would be so cool to be able to continue that questline and decision path as an option in the next Game to see where this leads.
Morgan blackhand is probably Mike P. self insert character, probably why hes so protective over it. Just like Jon Snow is in Game of thrones for George R. R. Martin. young george pic is basically Jon snow or Kit Harringtons apperance
@@CrimsonRayne Ah, yeah nah, he's come out and said that the 2023 Blackhand would look like George Clooney in one of his movies, though I am with you that it is an insert, I just thought the example wasn't great
@@CrimsonRaynecause Blackhand like Silverhand are key elements to the story. Why mess up a character your gonna bring back towards the end of your legacy early?....j.s. lmfao wanna hear an example it's like Ronnie showing up at the end of jersey shore reunion (we where all waiting for the shit to pop off!😂)!
I'm almost certain that Mr. Blue-Eyes is behind the entire plot of the game. They facilitated everything from V's transition to mercenary life, to VDB getting wind of the fact that they need Alt to breach the Blackwall, to making sure that Saburo would show up unexpectedly on the night of the heist. So many things had to line up just right for the game to happen. So many details have been left unexplained. So many lifelines just _happen_ to fall into V's lap just when he needs them to. The fact that Dex specifically requested V's team for the Relic job is suspicious as all hell considering they were essentially nobodies up to that point. How did Smasher _not_ see them? How did Mamon learn that she needed Alt to breach the Blackwall, and that she'd need Johnny's engram to do it? Why was Johnny's engram even on the relic in the first place? How is it the Kang Tao transport happened to fly over NC in the perfect place for V to intercept? How is it Panam, the ONE ex-Nomad merc in NC, just happened to find herself in the perfect situation to cooperate with V? Someone, or something, orchestrated all these moving parts. There are way too many coincidences and perfect timings for V's story to just have been a string of extreme luck and happenstance. And with the tech we saw in Dream On, I'm almost positive that this tech was utilized to set everything in motion.
that sounds way too insane honestly, I can see the prologue with Dex being part of Mr. Blue Eyes’ machinations but everything after that is just too much in my opinion 😅
@@crimsonphoenix8907 That's okay. I get it sounds crazier than the dude outside Misty's Esoterica. But, it's my own way of explaining away what looks like very bad writing in the over use of coincidence and luck. Lol.
Maybe a little inspiration from the half-life franchise! They’ve already paid homage to portal with glados being in the game. But this mr blue eyes seems very ‘gman’ to me. And gman played a very similar role in half life. Being a higher power that is orchestrating things to fall into place at certain times. Be interesting to get deeper into it!
Fun fact in 1.0 (might still be in 2.1) there was a piece of cyberware that would highlight enemies who were detecting you and during "The Heist" Adam Smasher can in fact see you and looks directly at you the entire time you are hiding
think i'll be giving this one a listen later on tonight, just from the title and timestamps alone you seem to be pretty even with my thoughts on all this mess. Im eager to see how you piece it all together, because i just dont get how mr blue eyes, nightcorp, and morgan blackhand all match up.
What if alt cunnimham happend to write soul killer back in the mid 1990's or even summer of 1998 as a teenager happend to managed to sould kill richard night after the shooter killed howm but not more then 4 minites? It took anotjer 5 to 10 year for application tech to catch up being able to use soul killed data chips in newer night city computers but before 2013?
Hey I just noticed something. Just before speaking to Jefferson I went to V’s apartment and watched the News it triggered a story about space pirates stealing things from the casino thingy, some prototypes.. weird triggering now? And he sends us to the same place to steal something for him, did they find out that they need more things? Did the pirates fumble and now they need someone more capable? I am 75% that this news story didn’t trigger before.
Been prolonging Hanuki or whatever for like a year lol finally wrapping my head around the game and the lore and the story....all amazing..I play in a vr headset so it is the most immersive sh#t I have ever experienced...every putting on the headset makes the game feel like a brain dance in itself..smh ..and I'm only on ps4..and my ps4 must be a 'gooood boyyyy' lol (like my dog) because it runs so smooth...for 15 dollars I could never complain...this game is an 18/10
You are the best an I honestly believe your theory will be correct. Blue eyes has been set up so well that them sliding into the next game as a main fixer slash antagonist is very easy. If V is still continued in that then the path to glory ending will definitely be the cannon ending.
Orion opens up start of the heist on the palace with V would be a cool intro for the next game and blue eyes talking to V guiding them, path of glory ending makes most sense if V was a corpo, the revenge and taking down saka fits so well with corpo V aswell as other aspects in the game things make more sense
@EternalNightingale I agree on the intro super easy and very cool way to start the game. The life path is open to interpretation honestly. Because you can make a argument the whole legend aspect really makes sense for street kid V. A corpo wouldn't necessarily want to be a legend they would be more about business , Eddie's, and efficiency. The scar face type dreams an doing super big legendary heists would be a street kid line of thinking. Plus street kid has the most logical explanation for how V and Jackie are friends. I would love to see the life paths return I just want to see them mean more. For example certain quest lines would only be available for certain life paths. More solutions that are only available to certain life paths. More key interactions that are only available to certain life paths. I wish the first game even had different best friends . The one thing I hate is they use jackie in every life path imagine if every life path had a different starting best friend that eventually does the beginning tower heist with you. Would have been super cool an make the choice more impactful.
My theory is the blue eyed individuals have had their consciousness uploaded and merged with an AI. They're consciousnesses being streamed to bodies, Hence the always glowing blue eyes meaning they're always receiving and sending data. Modern Neural links and Processors can only handle so much, so the actual consciousnesses are kept in a similar program to Mikoshi, Where they stream themselves into bodies. Could be their own bodies, Or even a stream of clones bodies. Cloning is extremely common in the 2045 tabletop setting (You can have a severed arm regrown and reattached for around a hundred eurobucks) , So canonically it's had another 32 years to advance beyond that.There's even mentions of Night Corp and Biotechnica working together in partner projects at times, So there's another cloning link. I believe Night Corp uses Neural Ports to reconfigure peoples minds and build towards Night City being a utopia to survive the coming fifth corporate war and fall of the Black Wall. It's a twisted version of the benevolence Richard Night envisioned, A Utopia of perfectly configured drones operating unknowingly beneath A.I. enhanced consciousnesses. There is a lot of possibilities, Especially when you look into the broader canon. Bartmosses corpo-drones, The REAPER A.I. (A Netrunner that merged with Rabbids and became a sentient murderous AI Featured in CP RED), And an A.I. Vending machine created by a University student with a 'bio-organic neurochip' he stole from the lab. The theories can go so deep.
I think mr blue eyes is a Ai controlled avatar possibly from beyond the black wall. He is one of many avatars im sure that are all controlled by this singular AI. I believe NightCorp made a deal with this AI to restore their influence ideals and control over Night City in exchange for something the Ai wants. In Cyberpunk we see many human faction making deals with ai as they are impossible to truly be controlled due to how highly evolved and intelligent they are compared to even augmented humans. Problem is when you make a "deal" with something so much more intelligent to you its impossible to know if you are being played or made a pawn in a grander over arching scheme beyond your perception. I suspect the Night corp "controlled" Ai that powers mr blue eyes and other avatars has its own separate agenda piggybacking off Night Corps naivety.
So Did anybody catch the dioouge between v and songbird where if you ask where how she got black market clinic to take her in if you don’t betray her she tells you that a man with blue eyes approached her and if you do don’t fear the reaper you get a mission to go to space for mr b I don’t think it’s the last time will see v just my speculation
I think MR. BlueEays have deal with SoMi thats why even if my heart say save her my brain say Reed is better option. It is like in Witcher3 where you save one person and then goung back you see that all village is gone.
After playing the DLC, you get to see how shockingly grim the situation is. The cyberpunk universe is doomed. These AI's are extremely powerful, and brilliantly, it seems every weapon can be entirely controlled by them. That's just the beginning what happens when these AIs take control of the factories. Start improving themselves. The wall has failed, if anything; it's just a facade at this point. We've seen that a powerful AI can pass through it "Alt" could. I wouldn't be surprised if the powerful AI's are keeping the wall up so humanity still thinks they're still safe.
Choom every video I'm ! Glad this choom is making air waves through the net! He's a low-key netrunner connecting pieces with chooms which is in-fucking-sane! I don't have the time or energy this choom has to make these vids...maybe back a few a years I wld but now just watch gameplay as usee and connect the pieces! This man literally spells out the plot for most some may not see it, but I as well as well shit lots of people have our spec which is why we love this man! It's always great making new chooms!
Congrats choom! Now play phantom 😢 I'm really sick of people hoping on my comments to literally say I'm dumb. If that's the case I'll keep my mouth shut. I just try to talk to the originals me you layedback and ethereal .....but if times change. You know my old ass likes the ttrpgs lore,but these recent chooms were so if they care ..they just wanna see destruction and death....which this game isn't about. It's about how the government is corrupt and owns everyone. How all the corpos work together to fuck the greater good...militech arasaka night corp etc are all in bed together fighting those like Johnny blackhand alt bartmoss spider etc.... the corpos is modern day government and we are the rebellion... But idk I guess I'm gonk....
@@RagingRobotzI appreciate it choom,but I'm just gonna leave it alone ...I'll still pop up on your comments choom lol but story lore wise I'm just done....
The Black Sapphire (Dogtown) is builded by Halsey,Ferris,Skiv. I’m not 100% sure but I think they was pissed that Richard leave and creat his own empire and the ironic is all the problems in Night City is what Richard never want in his dream city and the city calls by his own name this hurts badly. The Peralez have the same study grade and she tells you: yes Night Corp foundation help us to get this high ranked diploma. Before I play the mission I drive to the big satellite car parking place area and you can turn off the satellite but unfortunately nothing changed. I want to say thank you for your videos🦾 im a big cyberpunk fan and this community is amazing it’s nice to read the comments and mind sharing stuff.
So i know weve been saying it a lot lately, but i truely do appreciate this choom! Weve been talking for awhile and his lore is to p notch! So much you chooms dont realize is going on in this game! Literally go back and watch all his videos good stuff all the way around! 🎉🤘(Idk why lately it wont give me the member icons...)!
Hey choom! Sorry I haven't been able to reply lately. I hope you are doing well and I've been planning on doing a live stream soon now that the channel has grown so much. I wonder how the turn out would be. I'm looking forward to the Uni semester ending so I get a bit more time to produce content and stream!
@@LayedBackGamers I feel yah choom! Wow I need to go back to these old comments haven't realized that people still asking questions and commenting on them lmfao! I'm glad your channels growing choom yah deserve it! So gotta ask cause curious asf what's the flavor of the cyberpunk g fuel?
@@LayedBackGamers I watched the witcher 1 you made and thought it was great problem was I already played it so much! I wonder when we supposed to get edgerunners ttrpg or blackhand book choom?! It's nuts preorder both heard nothing...
What if it’s Richard nights wife try to make her late husband ideas happen especially with si Lilith what if she got soul killed or became an ai I think that’s it
Ow pineapple banana if it tastes anything like them two flavours that should be good, some of their flavours can be not as advertised but there are some nice ones (I know taste is a mater of taste but you know what I mean) my 2favs so far have been clickbait and blue raspberry (I wouldn’t say it tastes like raspberry but I like that zing taste that blue stuff has also I swear I can taste a bit of banana in it) I’ve tried like 5 other flavours and none of them taste bad. The same can’t be said for Sneak 🤮 I tried their cherry and it had the oddest taste, the closest I can pin it down is malt it taste like someone mixed Horlick with a cherry drink and them to flavours shouldn’t be mixed.
I wish we could truly know if Mr Blue eyes kept his promise to V in curing Him. I was hoping for DLC with Morgan black hand or something else. Phantom liberty is ok but CDPR could have done more I think.
i think they have planned a lot but the buggy launch ruined it, I had heard that there was going to be 3 expansions so just imagine we might have gotten more of Morgan or Ai plot
Well it’s possible we’ll get a follow up in Orion? Alot of people seem set on V not appearing in Orion for whatever reason, but what if that’s not the case? CDPR were going to release a second expansion called Crystal Palace, coincidentally the same place that V goes on a heist to in the blaze of glory epilogue. What if CRPR purposefully cancelled that expansion to leave that quest for Orion?
@@AveChristusRex789 I m ok with V not being the protagonist ....To me Cyberpunk is a story of the dystopian future and legends born in it so I am ok with a new protagonist but we need some mention or even a meet with the legend. That would be cool af
@rishabhgond3750 V isn't the protagonist even in their own game. They're the window we use to see it, but the protagonist of Cyberpunk is Night City itself. Everything that happens in game is more important to NC than it is to V, V is massively insignificant in the grand scheme of events and that's a deliberate choice.
Hells Gate 3 is literally the story of Konami and Silent Hill P.T. if yah pay attention to the shard and insert certain names then look it up it makes sense...
The theory blue eyes is black hand is cause his in game file name is literally black hand legit no other reason people believe this theory could just watch any other video about blue eyes to find that out do some research next time
That is literally what I said. I stated that it was named Morgan Blackhand and that at most, it was an early development asset and placeholde that got scraped into others. You claim I need to do research but didn't even listen to what I have to say?
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illusive? like illusory? like illusion? OR DO YOU MEAN ELUSIVE? as in hard to comprehend, find, or get? it's been six months. might do with fixing that typo and re-releasing the vid
@@MrOrchidion Illusive means "deceptive". I also used it as a reference to the Illusive Man from Mass Effect. It's been six months and you're the only one to say something because it isn't a typo and makes sense.
Found your channel from Big Dan's iceberg video. After a couple amazing videos, you 1000% earned my sub.
There's just something special about this game that has kept me playing thru 7 runs and almost 800 hours so far. This is what I imagined back in the 90's playing the Tabletop version, and just hopping on a bike and roaring out into the bad lands to watch the stars can fill hours of my time. As much as I'll always revere Gary Gygax for the wonder of D&D, Mike Pondsmith created something that grabbed me immediately and has led me to the Cyberpunk novels of Gibson/ Stevenson/ and many others over the decades. This game has so much knowledge secreted away if you pay attention, so many threads to follow, it never gets old. I can't wait to see what the new Orion game has in store, and even if V isn't a part of it, I will be more than happy to create a new character and explore the next chapter they create. Awesome video about the history of Night City, and the shady deals that went on back then.
You fucking get it dude.. I know it was really flawed. Downright Shocking how incomplete it seemed even. BUT THE RP made me love this game day one on a base ps4 I fucking loved the City, the characters, how V interacted with all of it to play out the story
Finished 3× so far, getting my 4th now, with Phantom Liberty. It will likely be my last unless I return much later but it will not be for quite some time.
The city and setting is great, but like many other games (Fallout 3+, Witcher, Skyrim) I never get the wow feeling of grandeur that I did get in Arma 3, Test Drive Unlimited 2 and especially Fuel. Yes travel times are longer, but you can really get lost in a large world. Unlikely it would be a thing for consoles though.
@@theguywhomakesthetrees2057I'm about to replay it again on base PS4 I loved it so much! Hopefully I upgrade soon :')
Lack of a personal life is the only reason.
@@WiseOwl_1408 Not really.
I play L4D2 and that is not just 800 hours. I play 1-2 campaigns or rounds after work. It is relaxing. It just adds up
Mr.BlueEyes is AI or AI Agent softening the ground work for the upcoming crumbling of the Blackwall, whether his AI faction is Good or Evil remains to be seen.
This along the Lilith Cyberpsycho situation, highly supersticious gang like the Voodo boys desperate trying to get a pass and AI protection, Songbird hellish blackwall abilities and the author of the franchise Mike Pondsmith himself narrating "conspiracy" theories on Morro radio about what Bartmoss encountered in the net back in the days of the Datakrash, its setting a nice theme of whats going to happen in the next Cyberpunk title.
Bartmoss discovered hell and opened its doors... Prepare for the coming of the daemons.
Those screams when you're doing the spaceport ending.. oh man.
Being in cyberspace passing through the blackwall is the creepiest unsettling feeling in the game, hearing those noises the rogue AIs trying to break through the blackwall
Can't be saying that choom you be labeled as a conspiracy nut! Lmfao but no full heartedly agree! Now what's to be seen is Murphy still trying to make the actual Alt Cunningham whole again? What was Hellman getting at when they had a suitable hoist that the engram was already "familiar with" until V intervened? So many questions!
They’re called Demons for a reason. A short sighted programmer created a cyber space hell full of demons of his own creation that even generations after the fact people still live in fear of rouge AI infecting people’s minds
@@JohnnySilverwrench Isn't there already an Alt Cunningham in the meatspace? I think Black Dog in cyberpunk red has a bunch of mercs delivering Johnny's body from NC to Alt somewhere else.
What if the body isn’t Morgan blackhand but, instead it’s Morgan blackhand’s construct inside a random corpo’s body. It’d explain why nobody recognizes him and why his character model is named after him.
At the end of Phantom Liberty when sneaking through the spaceport I thought I saw a man see me from an office window from afar me only for to zoom in and see Mr Blue Eyes. He is the G Man from Half Life of Cyberpunk.
That's how I discovered Mr. Blue eyes in my first playthrough. Was completely surprised to see him again in the Peralez quest and absolutely flabbergasted upon meeting him during "The Sun" ending
"Nights coming! The eternal night!" I dont think she was talking about the weather either.
For me it's the option I like the most. That Mr Blue Eyes is controlled by Rogue AIs beyond the Blackwall. Night Corp tried to do it in their project, but actual rogue AIs breached the Blackwall and are now controlling Night Corp, or at least very influtential people inside and outside of Night Corp...maybe even other corporations too. But I would like to see a corporation, maybe Arasaka, given its resources, to be aware of this rogue AI plan, maybe even connecting to Yorinobu and the dramatic events of the game...the possibilities are just endless in such a fascinating concept!
Morgan Blackhand was captured, it's his memories you are seeing from the aircraft carrier leaving Night City, when the nuke goes off in the corpo tower. Johny's mind was uploaded to the chip back at the tower before Morgan was captured.
Nah he survived, if he was captured Adam would be boasting about it. I'm pretty sure the alteration of the engram happened through angels tampering and radiation. Angel is the biggest link here to how johnny survives.
There's rumors Blackhand has been seen helping reconstruction efforts.
Mr blue eyes is the illusive man from mass effect
And also G-Man from half life
pretty sure that's called the "puppeteer" archetype, pulling strings behind the scenes.
Sending songbird to the moon followed by the reaper seems to be the possible canon ending i just wish we gonna get more also in the spaceport there are other people with blue eyes one pointing the camera at you
There’s a theme of “secret” endings in game where it’s the probable most likely canon like in Mass effect with Shepard being alive, I think corpo V soloing saka tower could very well be canon and makes most sense playing the whole game and PL with corpo V than nomad or street kid, still feel when CDPR will decide what to make canon they’ll be bleak about what happened to V just like how Morgan blackhand is in 2077 if V isn’t the main protagonist next game but I feel they will be and CDPR can take V to phenomenal levels of badass
@@EternalNightingale I'm just a uneducated fool but I don't think CDPR would give all these connections but sweep it under the rug. DFTR seems connected to helping Songbird and we keep seeing Blue Eyes. Why keep showing this guy seems important. Then again I am still playing and learning the lore of this game that just leaves me with questions.
@@EternalNightingale maybe thats true but canon V would absolutely be Streetkid V - V acts streetkid regardless of what backstory you pick in the current game anyways, and having connections to Padre makes V more believable as rising so quickly in NC... Also, Streetkid V and Nomad both make the dynamic more interesting in Johnny since they really do have nothing in common (unlike Johnny and Corpo V) which makes their eventual bonding as they change into each other much more fascinating
@@salmon_wineI think corpo V is the best V imo. I feel like a lot of how you play story games like this is just sorta filling in information on your own, making a story in some way for your character. I think the story that corpo V gets booted for corpo bs, and then going to rob Arasaka is a cool story. It’s made even cooler if you do the reaper ending. Any ending kinda makes some sense if you choose corpo v. Raiding the tower alone? Last chance to stick it to Saka. Leave NC with Panam? Corpo V knows there are no winners in NC. Side with saka? Can’t entirely leave the life behind. I think it’s the best and seeing the ex corpo V being unwillingly teamed ip with extremely anti corpo Johnny.
What reaper, from mass effect ?
Morgan Blackhand was present during the attack on Arasaka Tower in 2023, but is completely absent from Johnny's memory in game. In addition to this, there also seems to be various gaps or errors in Johnny's perspective of events, which has been attributed to radiation damage, errors in copying his engram, and him being an unreliable narrator. However, if it were just errors in Johnny's memory, why is Blackhand completely absent from the entire attack, and all of Johnny's memories throughout the game? I wonder if this could be related to Nightcorp's mind control technology, is it possible they could have erased Blackhand's presence from Johnny's memory, or altered it in other ways?
Arasaka had Johnny's engram for a while. They could have edited a lot
The engram V got most likely an edited copy of the original engram. The theories and lore in this game and overall universe are crazy awesome. Can't wait to see what's next.
Come on CDPR make Song-moon and V-Sun canon already. We all know this is it 😂
You can spot more blue eyed people at NCX during the songbird's quest there. And I might be wrong but they can be seen in other places (not talking about mr blue eyes)
It's the unnatural type blue to look out for....takemura eyes turns blue asf if you pay attention.
I think those are just transactions going through
@@ReachTea Correct, happens whenever they are paying someone infront of them or sending data. Happens with everyone including children what can be seen during the PL mission where you are getting a code from towers and you talk to the kid there, pay them to help you.
@@neondeneko3215 If you follow this logic, the blue eyed people are constantly uploading and receiving data, which honestly is a pretty good give away for them being rogue AI.
@@neondeneko3215 yes but not all are transactions as Mr. BlueEyes eyes stays consistently white and if you pay attention when you're escaping with Somi he's standing above orbital watching the destruction y'all just commenced with the blackwall! Somi tells you a man with strange blue eyes funded her to go to moon...As well as if you play the rogue ending you find out he funded your raids....I believe Blue Eyes is possessed from beyond the wall from maybe one of our favorite netrunners....
Keep an eye out for characters hands. There's a Ring that people of intrest wear. Has a big JG on it. I think it stands for JinGuji. Sombody has to be giving these Blue eye guys they clothes! There's a connection I just don't know it.
See, there's one very interesting link that I don't really see explored anywhere. Namely, the eyes. It's the same eyes that the dolls have when they are controlled by the personality chip implanted in them. That practically tells you that Mr. Blue-Eyes and his kind are likely just hosts for someone or something else. It could be that they're being used by a local program - and considering what complex interaction the doll chips allow for, there's zero doubt that significantly more can be achieved. Or it could be that they're controlled remotely. Just like Hanako remote-controlled that doll when talking to V in the main storyline.
But does this give us anything? Why yes, I think it really does. While you rightly point out that Richard Night wasn't soul-killed, there's no guarantee that another technology wasn't used - like mapping out his brain, for instance, or recreating his personality in the digital realm by various means. It wouldn't work as well as Soulkiller, but it could work well enough.
And that's before you even consider that he didn't actually die in '98. His killer was never caught, but that's not the main thing. His life was constantly threatened and it was a matter of time until someone actually succeeded. You can't kill what's already dead, so his "death" took care of the threat. The wife took over and followed in his footsteps, which sounds mighty convenient, to have someone who intimately knows their partner's business strategies, etc. I think we can safely say that it's well within the realm of probability that he just staged his own death and led from the shadows ever since.
And it's a much smarter move than what Saburo ever did. Saburo was out in the open, a clear, visible, tangible target. The "already dead" Richard Night can't even be a target at this point for his enemies. And since Saburo survived much longer than Richard Night, living well over 100 years for someone with that kind of money and influence.
It's even likely that he's still around in 2077 and that he's using people with the doll implant or a similar technology. He can probably even switch between multiple hosts on the fly since the personality chip can take over when needed. And what better way is there for someone like Richard to keep an eye on things and keep them on-track from the shadows?
It could also be AIs, from beyond the Blackwall or not.
Wonder if FIA know anything about blue eyes, they’re very well informed about almost everything even what happened in Konpeki plaza im sure they have some files
Yes and no 😄 the thing is I have the world of cyberpunk book and you have really less information about Night Corp. FIA knows something but look you talk with Songbird about mr.blue eyes and she looks and sounds like she have no idea who he actually is and songbird is a A+1 high level Netrunner, netrunners skills are informations and high knowledge about secrets and more and she have 0 idea!? or she lie to you again 😄
Blue eyes was probably the one to orchestrate so mi to get the neural matrix and was behind her plan all along from betraying FIA, V, myers, Hansen…. She prolly went back to blue eyes during the time after the stadium to the spaceport so he set her up to leave to the moons black clinic and jobs done
The Night corp is probably one of the few corps that actually kept things down consistently, so much to the point not even NUSA has any idea what they're planning, if anyone has an idea, it's likely Maelstrom, the AI who are in touch with Night Corp and the highest level of Night corp themselves
@@mohdshahariar5833 Night corp siding with Maelstrom is such a red flag honeslty. Another one to "Burn corpo shit"
this was so my favorite mystery in cyberpunk. really hoped that DLC would explore this. here's to project orion...
Such a good video summarizing all this interconnected stuff. I hope all this gets some sort of tie-together in the sequel. Or maybe it should remain a G-man esque mystery, dont know. But great video on this! Liked!
Your vibes are so cozy bro never stop posting
Thank you for this, cause IO just finished Phantom Liberty and I saw in some videos about Mr. Blue eyes and I don't recall seeing him ever...but I went into PL after the voodoo boys quest
Let Johnny and Rogue go to Mikoshi, then choose to let V back in the body in the end. V becomes the leader of the Afterlife and has a meeting with Mr. Blue eyes who sends him on a mission to space promising him “more than he even imagined”
@@Szaleoss be nice if they piggybacked on this scenario in Orion and V finds a cure in space
Side note takemura says they arisaka can take a incomplete engram from a dead body so the theory of Richard might being the blue eyed man isn’t out the window
I dunno why, but you have no idea how happy I am you brought up Ziggurat.
Ive been waiting for this one. Night corp is fascinating
Was waiting for a new video, let’s go.
CDPR are building up to something crazy in Orion, Mr Blue Eyes and his other friends will play a key part I fear
I believe that whenever Mr.B appears these choices will be canon, and sending Songbird into space along with the Crystal Palace heist make sense for the theme of the Cyberpunk world.
@@Heresiarches9274 yeah that’s what I think too. Mr Blue Eyes doesn’t appear for no reason, CDPR didn’t have to include him in the expansion
@@AveChristusRex789I think the writers at cdpr are probably fans of Neuromancer. The story line were V survives but loses their ability to use cyberwear is Case’s backstory verbatim. Plus the mission that Case embarks on is in a space station lead by a guy controlled by AI. There are so many similarities that I find it hard to imagine it won’t be a rewrite of Neuromancer. With an AI either promising to get rid of the chip or give back V their ability to use cyberwear.
@@cameronbidiix218 so according to Neuromancer, what do you think is in store for V next?
@@AveChristusRex789 If they continue with Vs story it is most likely going to have something do with the crystal palace heist. He gets contracted by blue eyes (who is a pawn for an advanced but trapped AI) to break out the AI from a wealthy family who lives in the crystal palace. There are three possible reasons for V to do this.
The first one a promise to remove chip.
The second to remove the chip before the heist but at the same time sowing in toxic sacs that will slowly release poison.
The third would continue from the ending where V successfully removes the chip. Mr blue eyes therefore restores their ability to use cyberwear along with the toxic sacs.
Once I was fighting some group, I think Maelstrom, and I was running a modded new-game plus, so I had max stats at start, I was able to jump on top of a building for one of the crime things, and I had seen an invisible AV on a roof with some invisible guys running to it and it taking off and flying away while Maelstrom or whatever started attacking me, I'll see if I can re-discover it some day
It may have been the Dream On Conclusion, or was it outside that quest line?
@@ashbajwa8965 I had found it again, it was this quest line, you can find people talking about it on google, if you can manage to kill them you can get a shard dropped
@@ashbajwa8965 I can't post links, but search "Cyberpunk 2077 dream on invisible car"
Low-key really like this , i put it on in the backround while playing today amen brotha
Wasn't Maelstrom trying to resurrect something in one of the cyberpsycho quests that is connected to Gary's quest?
Lilith
The interesting thing about the rogue AI theory is that so far we ALWAYS see red colors. The Blackwall (which is an AI), Alt, Songbird, the core, the Cerberus robot, etc. are all depicted as red. Songbirds eyes are red too, not blue. Minor detail? Perhaps. But maybe it's also a clue that either the blue eyed ppl are not AI or, at the least, not ROGUE AI from beyond the Blackwall. Imagine different AI working behind the scenes to protect humanity FROM the rogue AIs. They are morally more neutral and ends justifies the means sort of entities, thereby explaining why they do horrible things to ppl like Jeffersons. It's for the good of the collective. Just my 2 cents!
Could also be one of the ''angels'' from the crystal palace, kicked out by his own teammates for whatever reason and now since he can't get back in, he entrusts only a living god with the gig.
You can see mr blue eyes too when you talk to mr peralez at the end
If you look above the Peralez's bed in their apartment you can see a really big X-Ray looking machine above their bed.
Mr. Blue Eyes is just the fucking G-MAN from Half Life...
i think one of Mr blue eyes pupose in the game is to take control of big corporations , especially Arasaka in this game which we see that he succeded in the ending when we meet him , I think the real bomb for arasaka is the Relic containing a programmed psyche of Silverhand by CN-07 , i think Hellman made some modification to the relic to become the next bomb , ( maybe Yorinobu tried that Relic that's why he was Holding much hatred for Arasaka & killed his father) , i think hellman linked CN-07 to the Relic to take control of Saburo's psyche (because it was designed for him , that's why some Ai can see through V's eyes & show her signs (tarot cards) , Hellman didn't complete working in the chip that's why V is not entierly controlled by the chip, also the relic is linked to the Ai beyond the blackwall we can't shoot mr blue eyes when we meet Jefferson peralez , when Alt removes Johnny engram who's possibly inffected , V lost her connection to the Ai this is when Mr blue eyes comes personaly to meet V . (this just a theory i could be wrong ).
The most interesting rabbit hole in the game, left as a cliffhanger, damn.
Cant say I wasn't expecting you to make this video.What I take from all these appearances is that sending Songbird to the moon,and the Dont fear the reaper with the Crystal palace intro are the canon choices,firstly because they set the dominoes for the next game in the saga.Also I hope we get in some way (as an intro mission in Orion for example,the Crystal Palace heist that was cut from being dlc.).
Yep glad someone agrees!
"Cut from being dlc" Source?
Enjoy GFUEL in your Cyberpunk 2077 shaker cup with a hefty dose of irony! 🤣🤣😂😂 (No judgment, choom, stack your eddies, it's rough out there)
If Mr. Blue Eyes is really a Rogue AI from beyond the Black Wall controlling things behind the scenes, intentionally sent Songbird who has Black Wall programs and viruses running through her systems, to the Crystal Palace, has apocalyptic implications for everyone. He even wants to send V up there (with a rogue construct in the skull). It would be so cool to be able to continue that questline and decision path as an option in the next Game to see where this leads.
Wrong. He's blackwall itself. Blackwall has gone rogue without netwatch knowing
Bro is the loremaster of this game
Morgan blackhand is probably Mike P. self insert character, probably why hes so protective over it. Just like Jon Snow is in Game of thrones for George R. R. Martin. young george pic is basically Jon snow or Kit Harringtons apperance
The Jon Snow part at the end might not be relevant, should look up a picture of Mike Pondsmith
@@Iscream4j0y I knew he was black. Dang, I thought Morgan was black too, guess I remembered wrong.
@@CrimsonRayne Ah, yeah nah, he's come out and said that the 2023 Blackhand would look like George Clooney in one of his movies, though I am with you that it is an insert, I just thought the example wasn't great
@@Iscream4j0y It is weird how hes so protective over Morgan blackhand. I wonder why
@@CrimsonRaynecause Blackhand like Silverhand are key elements to the story. Why mess up a character your gonna bring back towards the end of your legacy early?....j.s. lmfao wanna hear an example it's like Ronnie showing up at the end of jersey shore reunion (we where all waiting for the shit to pop off!😂)!
Holy shit...i didnt know any of this...its like a whole other story that was just buried under the surface of the one we were a part of
Nightcorp would have been a cool life path choice.
I'm almost certain that Mr. Blue-Eyes is behind the entire plot of the game. They facilitated everything from V's transition to mercenary life, to VDB getting wind of the fact that they need Alt to breach the Blackwall, to making sure that Saburo would show up unexpectedly on the night of the heist.
So many things had to line up just right for the game to happen. So many details have been left unexplained. So many lifelines just _happen_ to fall into V's lap just when he needs them to.
The fact that Dex specifically requested V's team for the Relic job is suspicious as all hell considering they were essentially nobodies up to that point. How did Smasher _not_ see them? How did Mamon learn that she needed Alt to breach the Blackwall, and that she'd need Johnny's engram to do it? Why was Johnny's engram even on the relic in the first place? How is it the Kang Tao transport happened to fly over NC in the perfect place for V to intercept? How is it Panam, the ONE ex-Nomad merc in NC, just happened to find herself in the perfect situation to cooperate with V?
Someone, or something, orchestrated all these moving parts. There are way too many coincidences and perfect timings for V's story to just have been a string of extreme luck and happenstance. And with the tech we saw in Dream On, I'm almost positive that this tech was utilized to set everything in motion.
that sounds way too insane honestly, I can see the prologue with Dex being part of Mr. Blue Eyes’ machinations but everything after that is just too much in my opinion 😅
@@crimsonphoenix8907 That's okay. I get it sounds crazier than the dude outside Misty's Esoterica. But, it's my own way of explaining away what looks like very bad writing in the over use of coincidence and luck. Lol.
If that’s the case then blue eyes is a dev writer at CDPR 😆
Maybe a little inspiration from the half-life franchise! They’ve already paid homage to portal with glados being in the game. But this mr blue eyes seems very ‘gman’ to me. And gman played a very similar role in half life. Being a higher power that is orchestrating things to fall into place at certain times. Be interesting to get deeper into it!
Fun fact in 1.0 (might still be in 2.1) there was a piece of cyberware that would highlight enemies who were detecting you and during "The Heist" Adam Smasher can in fact see you and looks directly at you the entire time you are hiding
Who else has put in way more playthroughs than they can count, put in probably a thousand hours, and never met Mr Blue eyes
think i'll be giving this one a listen later on tonight, just from the title and timestamps alone you seem to be pretty even with my thoughts on all this mess. Im eager to see how you piece it all together, because i just dont get how mr blue eyes, nightcorp, and morgan blackhand all match up.
I think Morgan Black hand is not Mr Blue Eyes, but rather is still a solo working with them.
Blue eyes feels like 2077s version of half lifes G man, and red deads strange man
Definitely heavy G Man and Illusive Man vibes. Red Deads strange man is like Gaunter O’Dimm from the Witcher too!
Glad you made a video on this :)
What if alt cunnimham happend to write soul killer back in the mid 1990's or even summer of 1998 as a teenager happend to managed to sould kill richard night after the shooter killed howm but not more then 4 minites? It took anotjer 5 to 10 year for application tech to catch up being able to use soul killed data chips in newer night city computers but before 2013?
Going down the cyber punk lore rabbit hole has been the best distraction from the election weirdly enough 💀
the mandatory work hrs being 80 is crazy lol
Congratulations getting 15k subs choom
Like I said before and I'll say it again you got a great voice for these stories thank you 😁😊☺️
the only time I felt weak in this game was with the peralez quest no doubt about it and V is literally a monster
Did ya play the Cynosure facility ending! That got me feeling completely useless
@@LayedBackGamers I'm pretty sure I did but I don't remember
Let the next game be a rogue AI invasion with Horror elements
Happy Halloween everyone! Time for a new LBG video! 🎃👻
Happy Halloween 👻
Another thing if you do song bird ending you will find a blue eyed homeless man near where song birds van pick you up.
Does G-Fuel have "Electrolytes"? Brondo does.
its wut pwants cwave
@@LazarusAugment lol😂
Hey I just noticed something. Just before speaking to Jefferson I went to V’s apartment and watched the News it triggered a story about space pirates stealing things from the casino thingy, some prototypes.. weird triggering now? And he sends us to the same place to steal something for him, did they find out that they need more things? Did the pirates fumble and now they need someone more capable? I am 75% that this news story didn’t trigger before.
Been prolonging Hanuki or whatever for like a year lol finally wrapping my head around the game and the lore and the story....all amazing..I play in a vr headset so it is the most immersive sh#t I have ever experienced...every putting on the headset makes the game feel like a brain dance in itself..smh ..and I'm only on ps4..and my ps4 must be a 'gooood boyyyy' lol (like my dog) because it runs so smooth...for 15 dollars I could never complain...this game is an 18/10
Make sure you wear the waterproof pants if you VR it on PS5.
@@paulleach3612 I bet ! Lol smh...I'm going back in today after I smoke 🤣😂
I've been blowing her off for atleast 5-6 in game months, by rights my V should be dead already.
I may have to do this...haven't bought the VR.
@@JohnnySilverwrench yea it's crazy..I'm actually playing it right now
Great video as always!🔥🤙
You are the best an I honestly believe your theory will be correct. Blue eyes has been set up so well that them sliding into the next game as a main fixer slash antagonist is very easy. If V is still continued in that then the path to glory ending will definitely be the cannon ending.
Orion opens up start of the heist on the palace with V would be a cool intro for the next game and blue eyes talking to V guiding them, path of glory ending makes most sense if V was a corpo, the revenge and taking down saka fits so well with corpo V aswell as other aspects in the game things make more sense
@EternalNightingale I agree on the intro super easy and very cool way to start the game. The life path is open to interpretation honestly. Because you can make a argument the whole legend aspect really makes sense for street kid V. A corpo wouldn't necessarily want to be a legend they would be more about business , Eddie's, and efficiency. The scar face type dreams an doing super big legendary heists would be a street kid line of thinking. Plus street kid has the most logical explanation for how V and Jackie are friends. I would love to see the life paths return I just want to see them mean more. For example certain quest lines would only be available for certain life paths. More solutions that are only available to certain life paths. More key interactions that are only available to certain life paths. I wish the first game even had different best friends . The one thing I hate is they use jackie in every life path imagine if every life path had a different starting best friend that eventually does the beginning tower heist with you. Would have been super cool an make the choice more impactful.
Lots of potential especially with all the garry the prophet theories
@ErenDenizMert I agree
My theory is the blue eyed individuals have had their consciousness uploaded and merged with an AI. They're consciousnesses being streamed to bodies, Hence the always glowing blue eyes meaning they're always receiving and sending data. Modern Neural links and Processors can only handle so much, so the actual consciousnesses are kept in a similar program to Mikoshi, Where they stream themselves into bodies. Could be their own bodies, Or even a stream of clones bodies. Cloning is extremely common in the 2045 tabletop setting (You can have a severed arm regrown and reattached for around a hundred eurobucks) , So canonically it's had another 32 years to advance beyond that.There's even mentions of Night Corp and Biotechnica working together in partner projects at times, So there's another cloning link.
I believe Night Corp uses Neural Ports to reconfigure peoples minds and build towards Night City being a utopia to survive the coming fifth corporate war and fall of the Black Wall. It's a twisted version of the benevolence Richard Night envisioned, A Utopia of perfectly configured drones operating unknowingly beneath A.I. enhanced consciousnesses. There is a lot of possibilities, Especially when you look into the broader canon. Bartmosses corpo-drones, The REAPER A.I. (A Netrunner that merged with Rabbids and became a sentient murderous AI Featured in CP RED), And an A.I. Vending machine created by a University student with a 'bio-organic neurochip' he stole from the lab. The theories can go so deep.
This is why I believe helping Songbird get to the moon is actually a bad choice.
He’s the illusive man in my head canon lol
Doesn't hurt to believe it since they're near identical lol!
I think mr blue eyes is a Ai controlled avatar possibly from beyond the black wall. He is one of many avatars im sure that are all controlled by this singular AI. I believe NightCorp made a deal with this AI to restore their influence ideals and control over Night City in exchange for something the Ai wants. In Cyberpunk we see many human faction making deals with ai as they are impossible to truly be controlled due to how highly evolved and intelligent they are compared to even augmented humans. Problem is when you make a "deal" with something so much more intelligent to you its impossible to know if you are being played or made a pawn in a grander over arching scheme beyond your perception. I suspect the Night corp "controlled" Ai that powers mr blue eyes and other avatars has its own separate agenda piggybacking off Night Corps naivety.
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Did anybody catch the dioouge between v and songbird where if you ask where how she got black market clinic to take her in if you don’t betray her she tells you that a man with blue eyes approached her and if you do don’t fear the reaper you get a mission to go to space for mr b I don’t think it’s the last time will see v just my speculation
Much informative, see you soon!
I think MR. BlueEays have deal with SoMi thats why even if my heart say save her my brain say Reed is better option.
It is like in Witcher3 where you save one person and then goung back you see that all village is gone.
The only "good" ending for SoMi may be the one where you kill her as it's the only one where she isn't being used
Black hand has the same hair as mr hands.
Almost looks like Clooney don't he?! Raises questions!
After playing the DLC, you get to see how shockingly grim the situation is. The cyberpunk universe is doomed.
These AI's are extremely powerful, and brilliantly, it seems every weapon can be entirely controlled by them. That's just the beginning what happens when these AIs take control of the factories. Start improving themselves.
The wall has failed, if anything; it's just a facade at this point. We've seen that a powerful AI can pass through it "Alt" could. I wouldn't be surprised if the powerful AI's are keeping the wall up so humanity still thinks they're still safe.
Niiiiiice opening shots!
Grabs Popcorn 😏😏😏🤘🤘🤘
Lord Keanu Revan
Choom every video I'm ! Glad this choom is making air waves through the net! He's a low-key netrunner connecting pieces with chooms which is in-fucking-sane! I don't have the time or energy this choom has to make these vids...maybe back a few a years I wld but now just watch gameplay as usee and connect the pieces! This man literally spells out the plot for most some may not see it, but I as well as well shit lots of people have our spec which is why we love this man! It's always great making new chooms!
Yup
@@JohnnySilverwrench I like the laid back approach so i can just listen and take it all in great videos as always choom 😎😎😎
@@revan6289 exactly choom! 🤘
Chooms I finally moved
Congrats choom! Now play phantom 😢 I'm really sick of people hoping on my comments to literally say I'm dumb. If that's the case I'll keep my mouth shut. I just try to talk to the originals me you layedback and ethereal .....but if times change. You know my old ass likes the ttrpgs lore,but these recent chooms were so if they care ..they just wanna see destruction and death....which this game isn't about. It's about how the government is corrupt and owns everyone. How all the corpos work together to fuck the greater good...militech arasaka night corp etc are all in bed together fighting those like Johnny blackhand alt bartmoss spider etc.... the corpos is modern day government and we are the rebellion... But idk I guess I'm gonk....
@@JohnnySilverwrench everything good Choom who's making u feel this way?
@@RagingRobotzI appreciate it choom,but I'm just gonna leave it alone ...I'll still pop up on your comments choom lol but story lore wise I'm just done....
@@JohnnySilverwrench what happened to make u feel like this?
@@RagingRobotz long story choom....just better if I slow down if..
get THE bag YOU DESERVE THE MONEY BRO !
Great video as usual. Thank you LayedBack!
The Black Sapphire (Dogtown) is builded by Halsey,Ferris,Skiv. I’m not 100% sure but I think they was pissed that Richard leave and creat his own empire and the ironic is all the problems in Night City is what Richard never want in his dream city and the city calls by his own name this hurts badly. The Peralez have the same study grade and she tells you: yes Night Corp foundation help us to get this high ranked diploma. Before I play the mission I drive to the big satellite car parking place area and you can turn off the satellite but unfortunately nothing changed.
I want to say thank you for your videos🦾 im a big cyberpunk fan and this community is amazing it’s nice to read the comments and mind sharing stuff.
dude when u said jefferson wins the election no matter what because it was planned since his birth literally got chills
I love these. Im hooked
These hands pulling the strings are they AI? They must be responsible for cyberpsycho violence
So i know weve been saying it a lot lately, but i truely do appreciate this choom! Weve been talking for awhile and his lore is to p notch! So much you chooms dont realize is going on in this game! Literally go back and watch all his videos good stuff all the way around! 🎉🤘(Idk why lately it wont give me the member icons...)!
Hey choom! Sorry I haven't been able to reply lately. I hope you are doing well and I've been planning on doing a live stream soon now that the channel has grown so much. I wonder how the turn out would be. I'm looking forward to the Uni semester ending so I get a bit more time to produce content and stream!
@@LayedBackGamers I feel yah choom! Wow I need to go back to these old comments haven't realized that people still asking questions and commenting on them lmfao! I'm glad your channels growing choom yah deserve it! So gotta ask cause curious asf what's the flavor of the cyberpunk g fuel?
@@LayedBackGamers I watched the witcher 1 you made and thought it was great problem was I already played it so much! I wonder when we supposed to get edgerunners ttrpg or blackhand book choom?! It's nuts preorder both heard nothing...
nice vid !
Thanks for checking it out and supporting choom!
I love this game
22:14 I yelled at my screen around this moment in the gig i said well you better hope you encryted this call properly because you're next
What if it’s Richard nights wife try to make her late husband ideas happen especially with si Lilith what if she got soul killed or became an ai I think that’s it
nice vid
What does The Illusive Man doing in cyberpunk?
Needed a vacation
Epic just epic
Ow pineapple banana if it tastes anything like them two flavours that should be good, some of their flavours can be not as advertised but there are some nice ones (I know taste is a mater of taste but you know what I mean) my 2favs so far have been clickbait and blue raspberry (I wouldn’t say it tastes like raspberry but I like that zing taste that blue stuff has also I swear I can taste a bit of banana in it) I’ve tried like 5 other flavours and none of them taste bad.
The same can’t be said for Sneak 🤮 I tried their cherry and it had the oddest taste, the closest I can pin it down is malt it taste like someone mixed Horlick with a cherry drink and them to flavours shouldn’t be mixed.
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Mr. Night...a man who does not exist
Morgan Blackhand?
I wish we could truly know if Mr Blue eyes kept his promise to V in curing Him. I was hoping for DLC with Morgan black hand or something else. Phantom liberty is ok but CDPR could have done more I think.
i think they have planned a lot but the buggy launch ruined it, I had heard that there was going to be 3 expansions so just imagine we might have gotten more of Morgan or Ai plot
Well it’s possible we’ll get a follow up in Orion? Alot of people seem set on V not appearing in Orion for whatever reason, but what if that’s not the case?
CDPR were going to release a second expansion called Crystal Palace, coincidentally the same place that V goes on a heist to in the blaze of glory epilogue. What if CRPR purposefully cancelled that expansion to leave that quest for Orion?
@@AveChristusRex789 I m ok with V not being the protagonist ....To me Cyberpunk is a story of the dystopian future and legends born in it so I am ok with a new protagonist but we need some mention or even a meet with the legend. That would be cool af
Mostly likely gonna be in the next game
@rishabhgond3750 V isn't the protagonist even in their own game. They're the window we use to see it, but the protagonist of Cyberpunk is Night City itself. Everything that happens in game is more important to NC than it is to V, V is massively insignificant in the grand scheme of events and that's a deliberate choice.
Anyone else think mitch is just old black hand?
Nope, just you 😊
So Richard Night is just Walt Disney lol
Don't forget that Disney is canonically a mega corp in 2020! 🤣
Btw silent hill is in cyberpunk....
Hells Gate 3 is literally the story of Konami and Silent Hill P.T. if yah pay attention to the shard and insert certain names then look it up it makes sense...
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Hi.....Im not really happy anymore. Think I may go offline for a while....
The theory blue eyes is black hand is cause his in game file name is literally black hand legit no other reason people believe this theory could just watch any other video about blue eyes to find that out do some research next time
That is literally what I said. I stated that it was named Morgan Blackhand and that at most, it was an early development asset and placeholde that got scraped into others.
You claim I need to do research but didn't even listen to what I have to say?