Music's greatest ever comeback? Cher, Kylie, Mariah or Tina?
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
- Cher, Kylie, Mariah & Tina, four music legends who during dips in their careers, looked as if their time in the sun had come to a very definite end. But against a lot of odds, these four extraordinary women, fought their way back, to achieve phenomenal success & confound their critics.
So just what made these four comebacks so special? And how can anyone determine the ultimate pop comeback? Well, I am going to try by marking each comeback on commercial success (single and album), critical success, cultural impact and who had the furthest to come back from their lowest points.
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00:00 Introduction
00:54 Cher’s comeback story
04:49 Kylie’s comeback story
08:37 Mariah’s comeback story
12:23 Tina’s comeback story
17:12 Greatest Ever Comeback?
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Tina’s comeback was the most iconic ! An abused woman who’s husband took every cent from her and tried to prevent her from ever working again. A black woman in her 40s who was able to occupy and be successful performing rock n roll/pop which we know was mainly considered in those times “white music”. Tina’s comeback has broken so many barriers and opened doors for so many black women that have come after her such as Rihanna and Beyoncé. She is Queen 👑
agreed
of course there is one person who will make it about race again 🤮
@@erijahc go straight to hell, respectively.
@@erijahcAmerica is a highly racialized country, race is already ‘in’ everything. Stop being dense. Rock and pop were (and still are to an extend) considered and gatekept as white genres.
@@ajaarmstrong4423 thank you 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Kylie is literally having another successful comeback as we speak, most acclaimed album to date, 16 albums in, tension
Who? Who’s Kylie? U mean like Jenner? I’m confused
@@BaddieRiah trying to be funny, but failing at it. 😅😂
@@BaddieRiah Mariah, that you girl??? It’s been so long!! I haven’t listened to you since high school when you used to be popular! Long time no see girl! You look…. Good. Can’t wait for your next new years gig…
@@mikegarcia597Shade!!!!!!
@@fanstastic83 huh? I’m so dead serious, idk who Kylie is bruh💀
I am very impressed that Kylie, despite not being North American, continues to release quality music and material and is always at the forefront without the support, marketing and support of the United States. Simply with Padam Padam and Tension she has proven once again that she is a pop queen.
It's like comeback nr 2 really
I love Kylie,⭐️ but the new tracks are heavily synthesized and repetitive. With her styling she’s trying too hard. Even through COVID, she recorded some better songs…. but nobody paid attention then.
Two have the vocal style and songs I love: Tina⭐️ and Cher.⭐️ I was alive when they began!!!!!
I never liked the whistling singing style but Mariah⭐️ could reach those high notes..
MADONNA👑 tops them all.
@@tinan2179 Nobody in USA you mean? The covid-album "Disco" did great in Europe at least, most likely in other parts of the world as well.
Mariah’s triumphant comeback in 2005 was a classic!
Her album cuts off that project was just as awesome as her singles during that era.
While MINE AGAIN, CIRCLES and FLY LIKE A BIRD are treasures of gold, the forgotten works of art like STAY THE NIGHT and YOUR GIRL are complete gems. Kanye West killed it on Stay The Night and I wish Your Girl was an even longer song.
On the deluxe album, the remix to WE BELONG TOGETHER was a banger that sadly got overshadowed that summer but understandably so since the original still was topping the charts along with SHAKE IT OFF.
I love that album. Mariah delivered for sure.
Mariah is still there on the worldwide charts from the beginning of her career, TEOM was just a "regular" album from the Queen, because until now... She still rules worldwide charts every single year! And Remember... Only Mariah CAN DO THAT! Hands down 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Mariah is a legend 🙌🙌
Cher and Tina’s comeback is something else. They were facing some of the most difficult times in their lives. They are icons for a reason and legends because of their contributions not only to music, but overall pop culture.
It’s Mariah’s. It’s just for some very… ish reason Jonny failed to mention her Bipolar Disorder flaring up and taking the wheel.
It was Mariah she dealt a lottt
Tina’s was so iconic I wasn’t alive when it happened I still knew the impact it held on society back then especially when she had no backing or faith from her label. She showed them!
All had wonderful comebacks. Hard to choose one, but I think I’ll pick Cher for crossing the age barrier. At 50 something, she had huge success with the younger crowds. on a different subject I can’t believe she dated Richie Sambora, looks like a strange couple but if they liked each other great for them.
Here in Brazil Tina Turner was a huge popstar such as Madonna, Michael Jackson and Queen in the 80's! We still can hear some of her songs playing on some radio stations at night.
Same here in Poland!
Onde querido? Por que eu infelizmente não escuto ela por ai aqui no meu Rio de Janeiro não. Infelizmente
@@joseluizboechatsantos942 aqui em Pernambuco ainda toca, em programas mais voltados pra músicas flashback
Same all over Europe. She was way bigger than Madonna
I remember the downfall of Mariah. It was brutal and abrupt. However Calling Mariah's comeback massive is an understatement
Well what should I call it then?
I would agree. Her comeback was massive in the states, but outside it was mid. I think putting her in the category of explosive international comebacks like Tina, Cher, and Kylie is not that logical.
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@@ph6883 during that time, success in the US is more massive than success in all other countries combined. plus the measure of the comeback is relative to how heavy the artist fell. Mariah's downfall was just lower than rock botto, and was orchestrated by her former record company.
@@ph6883Mariah’s had the best selling album of 2005 all over the world and the most successful single that became Song of the Decade. Nobody will come close to Mariah’s success during her peak and during her comeback. None of these other females had the same success of Mariah during their career peaks.
As a mental health survivor I technically find Mariah’s comeback most grandiose and triumphant. Other girls mentioned didn’t have ‘Bipolar’ thrown at them as well as bitter executive ex trying to sabotage them every step of the way.
And truth be told Mariah is not my favourite of the bunch but you can’t deny the technical setbacks of her downfall..
That’s why Mariah’s is my personal favourite. I love Mariah
Exactly mimis comeback was the strongest
Yes. Tina’s new label was hesitant to promote her. But Mariah had the entire industry and Tommy Mottola actively against her. TV shows around the world made fun of her for years. She had 9/11 to deal with. Plus her family tried to place her in a conservatorship, just a year having been named Artist of the Millennium and signing the biggest record deal in history. The score for “Climb” should have been 10. Also, TEOM was the second biggest selling album worldwide of 2005, and the biggest selling solo album of the year. The score should have been higher. She had 10 Grammy nominations for TEOM including the main categories and a bunch of other awards, so “Critical Acclaim” should have been higher too.
You also didn’t consider that Mariah Carey came back with a true R&B album that she wrote and produced, while the others had pop radio-friendly records.
That “Whose name WE DO NOT KNOW” kills me 😂🤣
Oh everyone is latching onto that
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Me too so smart to use it as reference to Mariah's preference 😂❤
I remember The Emancipation of Mimi being pretty big, I wasn't really conscious of pop culture and pop music's landscape during the other ladies' times. Can't Get You Out of My Head was really big for Kylie, though. I think almost anyone who wasn't a child at the time has probably heard it at least once and is the one song they recognize from her.
It's Like That and We Belong Together were huge singles as well, being played over and over on the radio and television. But knowing what I know now along with all the info presented in this video, I think you make a pretty logical and sound case, Jonny. Always love your videos :D
Goddess-Queen Tina for the comeback of all comebacks. She inspired not only other musicians but women world wide.
Amen 👏🏼 no ones comeback is more iconic than Tina’s
I really want janet to have a tina turner sized comeback especially after being blacklisted by pop media
Yeah she probably doesn’t want it, I don’t know. I thought a style like Uptown Funk or Lizzo’s ‘about Damn time’ would be perfect for her
@@jonnyharvey I was really hoping Made for Now would be her Believe since she was 52 like cher was when believe was released because they 20 years apart in age
@@jonnyharveyI agree. "Black Diamond" was supposed to come out in 2020, yet Janet's recent tour was basically greatest hits (Together Again).
I think Tina's was the greatest just because literally nobody five years prior to Private Dancer would've ever predicted that her biggest period was still to come, she was counted out, people figured she had nothing to offer without Ike, and yet she rose like a phoenix and became a bigger star than she ever was with Ike. Mariah, Kylie and Cher have all had great comebacks too, but there was never the doubt lingering in their corners the way almost every record company laughed off the idea of signing a middle aged Tina.
Kylie is always Queen 🐝 to me. Mariah’s comeback was epic. What’s Love Got to Do with It is my favorite track from Ms. Turner.
Kylie might be the Comeback Queen because by her own admission she’s had to “ride the lows” and somehow gets to come back after dismissal on her relevancy, Cher engineered one of the greatest comeback, especially because America is so agist, but Tina, considering what she went through at the hands of Ike, had to have the “greatest” comeback.
Tina hands down!!! How many people can completely reinvent themselves after age 40, much less a black women and become even more iconic?
Honestly, all of them in their own special way! All 4 of them are beyond iconic! 😍😍
One thing regarding Impact that Tina Turner caused that is NOT based upon musical style, but still notable.... Tina's comeback and impact in music in the US, most especially, showed the music industry 'powers that be' that older stars coming back could happen and be lucrative. Tina's comeback paved the way for other "has been" artists to get another consideration, and I think that other labels immediately looked for their "Tina Turner". That's why Aretha Franklin, Cher, Natalie Cole and a few other artists were suddenly out with a revamped, current sound, and I think that's why listeners were suddenly so receptive to "artists from another era doing a new thing" and got airplay. Tina started that in the 80s.
That’s a good point - thanks for this.
Mariah had the best selling album among the other 3, had 2 #1's and a another top 2 song, WBT was crowned as the song of the decade, and has spent 14 weeks at #1, other than this, The Emancipation of Mimi era has helped sustaining her career, the very next era had another #1 song and the album opened with the biggest sales week of her career, the 2nd era after the Emancipation Of Mimi era was also a success which secured her a WW smash hit and an album that's eligible for double platinum, 19 years after her debut
I really really appreciate your sensitivity to Mariahs struggle during those years. So many people who discuss it on UA-cam make jokes or make fun of the situation but you handled her portion of the video so respectfully and gave her the props she absolutely deserves.
Thank you.
That’s lovely to hear - no way am I going to make fun of Mariah - she is a legend! And making fun of people struggling with their mental health is disgusting - so low
all ladies are amazing and have created incredible legacies for themselves. however, tina’s comeback will always be my favorite. she literally gave up everything except her name and was written off as a has been by everyone, but her drive and talent carried her to the most successful era she’d ever seen.
also mariah’s career comeback seemed to me the most impressive since the downfall from the top no one thought she’ll get back up
So glad Tina won!! Her success story was the most unlikely and she did it and then some! My favourite singer of all time too❤
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Thanks for the spoiler
Rude
Not saying it's wrong, it isn't, I just didn't watch the video because I was told the outcome
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@@dilloninja same. I was too annoyed to enjoy it. Love the winner tho..
Kylie has never really been over. Cher became a movie star during her slow period. Tina's comeback was more unexpected after several failed attempts. Still, Tina continued as live act for years after Ike. Her comback was well earned. Mariah had alot to prove after being institutionalized & being sabotaged by her ex. Unlike the other three MC was persona-non-grata to the public. Her determination to get back to the top was based on sheer will & her many talents besides her singing.
1. Mariah
2. Tina
3. Cher
4. Kylie
Did you watch the video? I guess there can be different interpretations
@@jonnyharvey I did & u had really great clips. Excellent job 👏👏👏
Mariah Carey's comeback was truly made for the history books and after the failure of Glitter, expectations were *DANGEROUSLY* low.
I don't blame the "other female entertainer whose name we do not know" for the drama that Matolla was orchestrating out of spite.
Emancipation of Mimi was my introduction to Mimi and she had me hooked with her vocals, melodies, songwriting, visuals, glamour and PHD in destroying critics *with SHADE*
I don’t blame “her” either.
I enjoy all three projects equally- Loverboy(Cameo Sample), Loverboy(Fire Cracker Sample) and I’m Real.
Well she must have known something was up. She can’t have been that oblivious to it all
it's definitely not fair to blame JLo who was just the artist in that situation
but how or why MUST she have known? she isn't known for having a huge hand in the BTS of her work, just being the image of everything @@jonnyharvey
@@jonnyharveyI don’t think J.Lo was thinking about Mariah and Tommy’s beef. She was just worried about her own career and she wasn’t about to tell Tommy “no”.
It’s truly misplaced blame
Great video! I've been a Mariah fan for most of my life at this point, and she never left my music playlist, so don't call it a comeback! 😂 But yes she came back strong. I love Kylie too. I got to get her new album! But in my opinion it would be between Cher and Tina. I think their later life careers were so iconic and huge that for many people, especially younger ones, their later life careers almost eclipsed the earlier stages of their careers. Like not only did they come back, but they took it to another level.
Deffinately CHER's(late '90s) and TINA's(mid '80s) were really a turning point to their career and also in music.
Believe is probably the first song I could recognize on the radio during my first few years alive in the late-90s. To think that it took so many years to develop is wild to me! It’s one of my favorites of all time
Great assessment! Very much agree about Tina. She really rose from the ashes, like you said. And she became bigger and better than ever.
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I absolutely respect and love every single one of these ladies! Their music, their voice, their tenacity & courage is pure gold.
Me too - love them all 😀😀
Kylie by far especially considering it's the digital age she's gone so viral out of the blue them comebacks where so long ago it hasn't done anything for there careers now Mariah is a legend her song is number one every year
Kylie has never stopped...
no she hasn't, I agree. I never said she stopped- I'm not disputing that. I'm saying her career had a serious downturn which it did.
@@jonnyharveywhy are u always soooo defensive and rude bro??? So unflattering
how is he? he's replying with logic saying that he didn't say she stopped.@@shaunhoward6838
@@shaunhoward6838He said nothing defensive or rude here. He just explained in case it wasn't clear.
@@flazeda8743 LMFAO 😂 🤣 🤣 😂 he does it every
time a comments made he doest like or Questions him, there's loads of footprints in all his comment sections of him doing it and to myself.... SOOO don't tell me he hasn't here when he has and does all the time, also u can kinda tell that's the person he be like off camera asswl it shines through hard ...
For me personally it's got to be Kylie as she's the only one that had sustained success until the present day. Her tours alone like Aphrodite and Showgirl plus Doctor Who and Golden and Magic were pretty successful albums. Top that off with Padam Padam and her upcoming album and residency she is by far the greatest and most successful comeback.
But only in Europe. She is not as big in the United states as the other women here. So that counts as well.
Not really a fair analogy.... Tina is dead and hadn't recorded an album of pop music for over 20 years before she died, Cher basically does covers albums now and Mariah is the Christmas queen. Cher, Mariah and Kylie are all doing just fine where they are
Lmaooooo the lies, the very next era after TEOM; which was E=MC2 Mariah had another WW hit and had the biggest opening week of her career, then she released MOAIA where she then again secured another smash hit, that is still trending as for today Obsessed, the album is eligible for 2 platinum mind you 19 years into her career, she then released beautiful a multiplatinum hit song, and of course AWIFCIY the holiday classic that goes #1 every holiday season, Mariah is secured for life
Cher's had multiple comebacks. Tina overcame the most though. It's worth noting that Cher's music career had more sustained success throughout the early 90s in the U.K.
When “Charm bracelet” came out, even though it didn’t sell like other albums prior too that, her single “Through the Rain “ did hit #1 🥰
No it didn’t, it peaked in the 80s
unfortunately Through the Rain stumbled at nro 81-83 and that was it… the rest of the singles didnt even chart… I did enjoy the Glitter album lots more than Charmbracelet…
In what country?
@@JD-xd4sy Spain apparently😂
@@arde29 Ok
While all of these comebacks are huge staples in music, I have to give respect to Tina's groundbreaking comeback the most. Came out of a divorce from the worst husband ever, the money from her disco efforts were not enough and she started performing in small venues now that she was deemed a has-been. Less than a decade later she somehow comes back with ONE OF THE MOST GROUNDBREAKING ERAS of the whole of the 80s with private dancer. This album had 3 top ten hits and 1 incredibly iconic #1 hit and sold 15m physical copies (30m+ with all formats combined). It didn't even stop there as she continued to have 2 more very successful eras and gained another iconic hit with the mad max soundtrack. Her tours were always sold out even into her 60s and she ALWAYS gave her all when performing. She literally went from rock bottom to outer space and that needs to be appreciated way more.
yes she did. Thanks for this.
She was a genuine inspiration (I know that sounds cheesy, but she was).
Tina, no doubt. Don't know why Kylie was in this group. Tina, Cher and Mariah are DIVAS! But its your channel.
Because Kylie is also a legend in the music industry just like the others are they're all iconic Kylie was also blacklisted from a lot of radio stations,had magazines mocking her, saying she had an ed it was sick and sadly her masterpiece impossible princess only sold 250k worldwide a far cry from chers underperformance that sold 700k Mariah 2-3 milion
I’m from Brazil, and the cultural impact of TEOM was HUUUGEEE. I think you did not give her enough credits for that. She influences the next albuns in the USA as well
None of the others were publicly humiliated and written off as Mariah was during the early 00's. Yes Cher and Tina's comebacks were also astounding but they were artists who were just past their prime and have become legacy artists. Public still loved them and regarded them as legends.
No one was rooting for Mariah and no one handed her a hit song. She had to work for that comeback to happen. I'd give her extra points just for writing & producing that entire album.
that's true - good points there. Maybe I should've given Mariah more points for that? Mariah was the only who co-produced everything. And she suffered the most publicly.
Great video as always, Jonny! Looking forward to your Anastacia video!
It sad how she never got big stateside and gets overlooked so many times even though she has one of the greatest and most recognizable voices ever, up there with Celine, Whitney, Tina, Mariah and Cher.
Thank you 😀😀
mariah and kylie are currently making comebacks (kylie with tension and mariah every year with xmas )
We Belong Together is the biggest hit of all of them. CGYOMH being a 9 and WBT being an 8 is humorous, WBT is a miles larger hit. I am a fan of both.
I explained in the video. CGYOOMH was much bigger internationally
Agreed, not internationally. Cant get you out of my head was far bigger here in Oz.
mariahs main success was in the states. perhaps from a us creator wbt was huger but here in europe, CGYOMH was a monster track
@@jonnyharvey I’m from the UK, sorry if my comment came off as a little rude. Maybe it was just that then i was more of a Mariah fan. Agree to disagree.
@@daisygalore2665 yeah that's fine. Sorry if I was touchy. TEOM is my own personal favourite comeback.
You could include Donna Summer as well cuz I think she had a huge comeback in the late 80's after vanishing from the charts
*I feel like they all have their own special story, for me it's gotta be Kylie Minogue just because she's regained a whole new generation of fans, yes, I knew who she was but Tension was the most natural way she could've recemented herself as an icon, I have that album on loop and it's surpassing industry expectations*
1. Tina Turner - became a global sensation in her 40s, her music, her tours were legendary 👑
2. Cher - Believe was a phenomenon 🙏🏻
3. Kylie - Fever era was her imperial phase 💕💕
4. Mariah - Mariah never really went away. Emancipation worked, but it's not one of her best albums.
This is not about the best album for Mariah. It’s about comeback era. Yes, it’s true that Mariah didn’t go away, but she was written off as a “has been” after the 2001 Glitter era. She tried to come back in 2003 with Charmbracelet album and the sales weren’t as good as her prior albums, so people were definitely writing her off and “shelving” her. She didn’t start getting buzz until the Busta Rhymes feature “I know what you want” before her big era Emancipation of Mimi🦋
Biggest comebacks ever: Cher and definitely Tina!
I was a teenager in rural America at the time "Believe", "Can't Get You Outta My Head", & "We Belong Together" were released. So i remember how Big a Massive FAILURE Glitter was for Mariah, She was the butt of every Joke & no one wanted to touch her! Then Mimi came out & it was such a SMASH💯 So much so, that i have developed this theory that Janet Jackson (Miss Jackson) only dated Jermaine's Dupri so that he could orchestrate her the same kind of magic🪄 he did for Mariah, which sadly he couldn't do.
I agree with you, i LOVE Kylie, bought Cher's "Believe" album, & was old enough to remember Mimi's incarnation & how HUGE That Comeback was💥⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
And Tina's comeback from such adversity is akin to the Legendary Firebird ❤️🔥🦚
Cher's impact for auto-Tune sometimes gets overlooked & credited to T-Pain, so thank you for your trusted Music Knowledge ❤ it's why we love you✨
Awh, thank you 😀😀😀
Janet began dating JD in 2002 just after the end of her All for You Tour and 2004 Damita Jo Album was actually about her love relationship with him… the superbowl happened after in 2004
Yayyy
Was waiting for this video to drop!
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"Celine Dion's mega Wail-A-Thon 'MY HEART WILL GO ON'!"😂😅😂❤
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Always and forever Kylie!! She's The Queen of successful comebacks❤
I feel like Kylie's record companies weren't investing enough in her projects, especially during her 2003-2012 eras.
BL was an american sounding aimed project so it fell a bit flat in europe, her cancer also postponed a lot of plans and music. then by the time the 2010s came around she was dealing with ageism from the radio. X was great songs but louzy album
@@Thomas-mc1jw BL has Secret and Loving days, Slow to name a few. Chocolate is brilliant. Red blooded woman's sound was more US though, yeah.
Most of the songs except slow are very american-ish. Not a diss, i love that album way more than fever.@@fanstastic83
crazy how selling 700k was a failure in 1995 😨
True
Agree with Tina having the best comeback among the other artists. She then proved that she was mega talented and an icon. For years she was huge in Europe and Latin America. ❤
yep where she sold out stadiums
Great video as always, handsome fella! It was probably one of your best. I was surprised you didn’t mention Kylie’s latest comeback but then "Tension" was recently released and won’t sell as much as Fever. I am not a fan of Kylie at all but I am glad her album recently went number in the UK and in Australia because it means some of the older pop princesses could have big comebacks in the future. I wonder if Britney will be next if she decides to make an album.
P.S. You should trademark(?) the boomerang thing about Kylie, it reminds me of the whole thing about cockroaches and Cher lol
The legit Fab Four of comebacks in global music history. All Grammy-winning, globally mega-selling eras, and each of these ladies have different eras of downturn lasting decades, all united by a stunning revenge in the industry.
But Kylie's Fever era as a comeback is an interesting point of debate. 2 decades later, she scored her most critically acclaimed career era so far with Tension. She also eventually became the inaugural Grammy winner for Best Pop Dance Recording for Padam Padam and is one of the longest-established artists to actually put social media to good use in terms of music promos in the post-COVID era.
try Kylie's 2nd grammy. she won her 1st grammy with Come into my world, as best dance song, in 2004.
Cackled at "who we do not know", brilliant Jonny!
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I just love diversity and each of this four women's music!!! they're all so ("were" for My Queen, RIP) talented!
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I loved this video analysis. I haven’t read further comments but so far I haven’t really heard Tina mentioned that much. Maybe b/c the comments are from younger people. But I don’t think people truly understand what Tina had to overcome in the late 1970s to early 1980s compared to now. A lot went down: she left an extremely abusive relationship with barely any money, let go by record labels, and was told she was too old, among others. I agree, she had the greatest comeback followed by Cher and Mariah as a tie for me.
There’s only 1 KYLIE that matters.
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..... a female entertainer, whose name we don't know..... LOVE IT! 😂
Kylie for me is the unrealised queen of pop. She has been the dark horse over the years, people got distracted by all the new shiny artist but then Kylie has been faithful to pop, and now we are in a pop drought people are starting to recognise how underappreciated she was, always claimed the princess never the queen but i've stood by my opinion she will outlast madonna for years and here we are
Tina had to go through sm BS so she wins ❤
I like them all but Tina is amazing and still inspires me❤
One day could you please do an explainer/analysis of the Kiss Me Once era? how did it end up being such a commercially disappointing era, and how did Kylie rebuild afterwards to end up at the Tension era? (it’s almost as if, commercially speaking, she’s having a second comeback) love your videos 🙏
The first time I even knew who Kylie was was in the summer of 2000. She was performing at Party In The Park or something. It might have been just before the release of Spinning Around. My family watched that on TV and I have a very distinct memory of the reaction in the room when she appeared on screen. Kylie was just a hasbeen from the naff 80s according my mum - which is really funny to think about now considering she named me Scott because she was such a big fan of Scott and Charlene in Neighbours!
great via as always, can you consider Jamiroquai's story?
My favorite artist by far is Kylie (even in thinking Fever wasn't that great).....But people to this day are still anticipating Tension as being the "Cher-believe" era to Kylies career. None of these other artists can simply have a name of one of their albums spoken and be such a cultural signifier of reinvention and comeback status without actually having to verbally elude to that. As such, the title has to go to Cher.
There is no need to choose, all these ladies are phenomenal.
IMO 1 Tina Turner's "Comeback" was the biggest comeback ever , it was almost Tina's rebirth "What's love got to do with it" ..singer with Voice like no one else and the sold out arenas & stadiums around the world.TINA was back.. 2 what comes to Top 20 charts I am 100% sure greatest comeback esp in EU /UK was Kylie Minogue after Spinning around/ Can't Get u out she was Princess of Pop. (can't get any bigger) almost all her singles from albums were shooting at least top 10.
My opinion.
1. Tina Turner
2. Kyle Minogue
3. Mariah Carey
4. Cher
As an artist manager I really enjoyed this video
Thank you - that’s great to hear 😀
Tina's comeback was the best. A rarity.
Going by Grammys, Mariah might have only won three... but she was nominated for 10 awards between 2006 and 2007. She was nominated in all major categories (for the third time over, after 1991 and 1996).
Going by strictly that, she deserves a 9.
Cultural: I want to say that her take on the beat-ballad (which is what WBT is) was copied numerous times in the US after that. Mary J. Blige and Beyonce in partcular got huge hits following that template.
Btw: in 2005 the physical singles market was dead. Itunes launched in 2003. WBT sold 20,000 physical singles in the US which is less than Obsessed did in 2009. WBT only got a limited release. That should not be held against her. WBT went 6xP in the US due to streaming today which shows how popular the song still is.
Sidenote to Cher's Believe in the UK: Mariah's Xmas song is certified 7xP as of right now indicating units sales of 4,2 million in the country which is almost twice as much as Believe. It is one of the biggest songs ever in the country and globally.
Going by your feedback. It is of course open to interpretation but;
I based on Grammy awards not nominations
Don’t think physical sales were completely dead in 2005- in the UK that is not true. It was definitely going that way
The influence of WBT on beat ballads is a good point. I take that on board.
Where is that certification for AIWFC? Is that US? I can’t find that for UK? Double checked my sources & Believe is still the highest paid for purchase single by female artist in Britain en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_singles_in_the_United_Kingdom
It is also just a chart I made up. Not meant to be taken that seriously
@@jonnyharvey Thank you for your reply. I'm just being cheeky and please do not read my comment as criticial or negative. I loved your take on the whole thing.
All of them are awesome, iconic and legends. But Mariah Carey's comeback garnered her earned her several music industry awards and nominations throughout 2005 and 2006. The song broke chart records in the United States and became Carey's sixteenth topper on the US Billboard Hot 100. After staying at number one for fourteen nonconsecutive weeks, it joined four other songs in a tie as the third longest running number one song in US chart history, behind Carey's own 1995 collaboration with Boyz II Men titled "One Sweet Day". Billboard listed it as the "song of the decade" and the fifteenth most popular song of all time. Additionally, it broke several airplay records, gathering both the largest one-day and one-week audiences in history. "We Belong Together" also topped the charts in Australia; and reached the top-five in more than ten countries, including Ireland, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Spain and the United Kingdom. And from the same album Shake It Off became #2 on the Billboard chart. Fyi for me MC still holds the song with the longest song at number no hate to the songs who went to top it 😂.
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As u mentioned, quite subjective to qualify a “comeback”, different times, different audiences or impact in different countries too… Nowadays it is quite hard to imagine a career span as big as any of these 4 woman. I guess u still need to quantify the comeback somehow. All and all, good video!
Cheers thank you 😀😀
Tina of course. Those other women never left. They just put out music sporadically, ( Cher ), never left at all (Mariah ), or just didn't crack the U.S. market all the time (Kylie ). Tina; 's story was not unlike a Phoenix rising. She totally re-invented herself and became a huge solo act.
it's not just a question of leaving; it's more a case of having had a career downturn proceeding the comeback (IMHO)
@@jonnyharvey Regardless, Tina trounces the others.
Agreed 100% with your views here. You’re right in saying in Ireland “We Belong Together” wasn’t as big as “Believe” or “Can’t Get You Outta my head”. I think though the world had moved on by 2005 & it was a different industry (the iPod / mp3 players had changed the music landscape)
Believe was definitely of it’s time as dance music was all in when it was released e.g Chicane/ DJ Otzy/ Eiffel 65/ Robert Miles/ Moby/ Faithless.
The video for Can’t get you outta my head is memorable as being a marker of the new millennium. Everyone then wanted to do ultra futuristic videos e.g Victoria Beckham with “Not Such An Innocent Girl”/ Britney with “Oops I Did It Again”
We Belong Together is a great song, but it doesn’t have that cultural impact.
I wasn’t around for Tina Turner’s 80s era so can’t comment. However I do remember being at countless parties in the 90s/ early 00s where “The Best” would be played, so it must’ve resonated culturally in some ways.
In Ireland yes, but We Belong Together is a bonafide hit...no cultural impact is that why we hear so many variations of the song and don't get me started on Tik Tok
it changed the sound of rnb in the 2000s but if you think that kylie minogue has more impact than mariah in 2023 you're very delusional
Girl Ireland is an irrelevant village with 1 million inhabitants☠️
I love how you threw shade on that dancer whose name we don't know 😂😂😂
Cher, Kylie, and Mariah never "went away". The only one whose career involved an actual decline and comeback was Tina.
Did u watch the video? It’s not really a question of going away- it’s more about rebounding from career downturns
@@jonnyharvey Yeah. It's just that Cher, Kylie, and Mariah never left the public eye during their "downturns". I don't know if anyone else would consider a single hitting #2 or an album peaking at #3 a downturn. Cher had many "downturns" throughout her very long career if we are going by that definition. Kylie never stopped having hits in the UK or her native Australia. I think there is more to a music career than awards and topping the charts.
Surely Tina’s had to be the most iconic comeback ever. Not only had her career stalled but she had fled domestic violence, was flat broke & the label didn’t even believe in her! She had the most riding on it. And not only did it bring her one or two successful eras but it started an imperial phase (at least in Europe) that lasted for the best part of 7 years and 3 successful eras!
Tina because her success in the 80s onward was MORE than before.
i disagree with the mariah claims although i love her. mariah's glitter era wasn't great but cher was literally forgotten about as a singer more than 4 times,
3:37 Not the wail-a-thon 😂
But also it’s pretty sweet that Celine and Cher are friends and Celine’s default song for her Cher impression is Believe. She is such an awesome person.
Celine Dion seems like the nicest person
Cher’s comeback was the most iconic one because she did it twice
Tina, 100%
I agree!!!
Great video. Tina had everything against her. Additionally, race also played a part in this as well. She is a shining example of what will power, talent, determination, and a great team can do for you in life.
Thank you 😀😀
I think Tina's comeback is the correct choice,she'd been off the pop charts for years unlike the other 3 who we're still having Top10 hits just a few years prior.
Cher really gambled on her dance album but it was exactly the refreshening of her sound that she needed and she's not strayed too far from it since.
Kylie had always had her loyal fans but it was critical recognition she needed and got with her one two punch of Light Years and Fever,she isn't as culturally siginificant in the USA as the UK and Australia and she's having another return thanks to Padam Padam and the Tension album.
Mariah has always been a much bigger success in the USA than the UK though we have placed a lot of her hits in the Top 10 but we never embraced her like we did Whitney and Tina.
Speaking of Whitney she had something of a comeback in 1999 with My Love Is Your Love as did Lady GaGa with Chromatica but lss so due to CoVid.
“…Another female entertainer, whos name we do not know.” 😂
Tina gets a 10 infinity for her climb
Damn right - she should get a one million
you can do another video.
Nelly Furtado - Folklore 2003, was a failure. Loose 2006, was a successful comeback.
P!nk - Try this 2003, was a failure. I'm not dead 2006, was a great comeback.
Madonna - American life 2003, controversial release at the time. amazing comeback with Confessions on a dancefloor 2005.
Beyonce 4 from 2011, critics thought this was her last album, being married & pregnant. but she recovered in 2013, with the self-titled album.
I did a video on American Life ua-cam.com/video/dolqjDqNiwY/v-deo.html
Everyone is different, but the four comebacks I covered in the video (are for me), the four greatest ever pop comebacks.
Yes you should take into consideration that when mimi came out people wasn’t buying physical copies of albums .. Adele’s numbers wasn’t effected because she didnt put it on streaming platforms therefore you had to physically buy it
Okay, thanks for this. Didn’t Adele have 21 on streaming platforms? It wouldn’t make much of a difference to the final score anyway
"It's not a comeback because I have never gone", I don't remember who said that, and I like what it means. All of them have incredible careers and they've gone through shifts that definitely changed everything. I think that the ones that struggled the most were Tina and Mariah. Industry ageism hit very hard on Tina, and Mariah, like you said, was going through an armageddon, a real career implosion. Even her fans left her for dead at that time. It was sad see her career agonizing that way. Heartbreaking for sure, even for me that never cared too much for her work. As far as I remember, may be the 1st major canceling that have happened before "canceling" become a negative culture. I was also a baby when Tina made her solo breakthrough, but I remember her massive influence in late 80's, it was crazy how she took the world. I was never a huge fan of Cher, but even though Believe album didn't get great reviews at that time I've always considered it an incredible dance album together with Madonna's RoL and Kylie's Light Years. Late 90's was an incredible dance music journey for me.
they all win but TEOM is one of the greatest albums of all time
Kylie update...Best Comeback 😍
I love Kylie 😀
As a Cher stan myself, I think you did a pretty good job here and stayed objective.
Tina had indeed one of the biggest comebacks ever and even built her brand and a whole new career after that, so the impact is immense. However, I don't think there is a need to shade JLO because of Mariah. She also had her comeback with the album Love? & single On the floor, so there is no need to put those amazing women against one another as they all have their fans and admirable career paths.
Having a comeback is not that easy and many stars didn't manage to have one so congratulations to our comeback queens!
I am sad Cher didn't manage to have another one with closer to the truth album but who knows what the future holds. It's amazing that Kylie is riding high again with Tension!
And the question remains who will have the next biggest comeback.
I am personally rooting for Katy Perry. I think she is in the place right now where everybody is writting her off and I think she could pull something amazing off again if the stars would align for her like back in the day.
It's not so much shade as a real reference
Whatttt? Tommy used jlo to sabotage Mariah and please jlos entire career revolves around stolen vocals and ghost singing
@@uditsahu4537 and yet she is still a household name and one of the best performers out there, not to mention the movies, so she is still doing very well even with you haters out there who can't seem to move past the year 2000. I won't comment the mean & bitter diva behaviour of the other one.
@@basslance yes a mere performer and NOT a vocalist or a singer
@@basslance so is Mariah lmao🤣 and how can you compare one of the best vocalist to a mere performer that’s just lame🤣 I am not disrespecting jlo to lift Mariah I am just saying that what jlo did to mariah and other singers was just shameful
I think they're all different in their own right. Tina had a really tough, personal story behind hers (and I agree with her being considered the greatest comeback), Cher's related to ageism and Mariah fought media stigma. With Kylie I feel the difference is that if Tina, Cher and Mariah hadn't had a comeback, they would've stayed icons. With Kylie, she was fading into obscurity at that point. She would've now been a genuine "I don't know her" rather than someone labelled as past her prime. Her comeback with Spinning Around (and subsequently Can't Get You Out Of My Head) carved her own slice in pop history, something that the other three had already.
Tina Turner had the most spectacular come back against all the odds.
It was against ALL the odds