HOW TO CUMMINS SWAP - 2WD
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2021
- HOW TO: Cummins Swap a 2wd Squarebody
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Great video! Very descriptive and lots of helpful information. I’ve been working on my own 2wd 3/4 ton 12v swap and I didn’t really know what all I was going to have to buy or modify to get it to fit and this video helped me a lot. Awesome build man. Keep it up 👍🏼
Glad to hear man, appreciate your support. Have a great day
Awesome video. Makes it alot less stressful
I have a 1990 Chevy V2500.That I am going to swap here pretty soon. This pretty much cleared up all the questions I had ! Thanks for the vid.
Awesome detail. Answered alot of my questions off the bat. Thank you
You bet. Soon I’m starting another k30 crew swap. I’m going to document the whole thing
Thank you soo much for the info i got a 24 v Cummings out of a international truck just got the 3500 GMC truck 2wd
And a Allison trans from a school bus
Keep the videos coming
I'm going to start on mines as soon as I get a pump and the lines
Also did the swap myself but still working on finishing touches, installing a digital gauge cluster so I can get accurate MPH and other vitals without fussing with adapters / conversion gadgets. Your video was a information goldmine, great video!
Very informative! I am currently considering this swap and your video answered a lot of questions.
Glad to hear
Like Andrew mentioned. Your walk through on this conversion was really informative. Thanks for posting it. VERY helpful for a 87 Silverado I have on the back burner after my Crew Cab conversion. Thumbs Up !
You bet man, thanks !
Awesome video, huge help. Thanks
Excellent explanation ! Thank you sir.
You are welcome
Awesome vid man really helps out
Great video!
Sam, great videos. Thanks for taking the time to share all your insights. I will will be starting this swap very soon. I am working with a 1969 c10. 5.9 Cummins, nv4500 with auto world mounts. Cant wait to get going! I am doing metal work on the cab currently. shoot me
You are very welcome
Thanks man I appreciate that.! Nice video!!
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Great video 👌🏾
Thanks! I’m planning on starting another Cummins swap here in a few weeks. And I’m planning to give it away to a subscriber if I hit 50,000 subscribers by the end of the build. So tell your buddies to subscribe, I’m going to be introducing the build series here soon
I'm doing this exact swap, 86 4 door dually. This swap is really easy! I've been trying to figure out a game plan. Thanks for the Trans heads up, I've got to run a auto for the wife. Now I know exactly what motor/trans I want. The fuel tanks was another I was unsure about, you answered that. Cool build! SUPER helpful video! Thank you.
You’re welcome man! Thanks for watching
@Sam’s Trucks what do you know about the 12v motors out of school busses? Are they worth the hassle, I'm finding them with lower miles at good prices, VE pumps, which I want. Will the A518 bolt up?
@@renarderickson the medium duty trucks/busses use a sae3 or sae2 rear structure if you wanna use the dodge trans you need the dodge adapter/rear structure, starter, flexplate
Nice! Thanks
good video.
Awesome content 💯👍I have an 82 crew cab dually automatic.........wish me luck lol I will keep you posted thanks 👌💯🙏
Thanks man!
Thanks for this boss !
You are welcome
Dude thanks for all the knowledge! I'm doing a long box 2WD 66 C10 12V with P-pump conversion. should turn out pretty badass. Not slamming it either, lifting it slightly. These Cali drivers are gonna hate me!! Its going to be awesome! haha
You bet man👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I have a comment to add this really is a pain in the butt… my and my sons project 79 Chevy dually crew 2wd with Cummins 12v 6BT ve pump swap was done already but but….. the transmission is still the TH400 with mods like gear vendors overdrive kit, we’ve confirmed it powers up ⬆️ now vacuum for our 400 trans is the question our only option is cable operated modulator for the trans per all my research
That is a good question. If it was mine I would put a manual valve body in it. Very easy to do and would fix your issue
Need to add the Cummins is an irrigation pump unit engine not from a dodge but identical mostly to early Gen 1 dodge
I'm in the middle of a 86 dually swapping in a 6.7 / 6 speed nv5600. It's a trick but it's possible working on the harness is eating my lunch but getting it done
Good video Sam! I have an ‘01 2wd Duramax/Allison Chevy with no engine or transmission in it. I have the old engine and trans on the shelf. Blown trans and blown head gaskets. I have an ‘09 school bus with the 6.7 Cummins/Allison combo. I believe I can do the wiring as I’ve done a Subaru into a buggy swap. I’m considering taking the bus drivetrain, swapping the GM tailshaft housing onto the bus trans and running with the swap. I’m not sure if the engine will clear the radiator even with electric fans, because the SAE bellhousing adapter is quite long. It sure would be nice to keep the stock driveshaft! Any 6.7 experience / things to be aware of before I tear down?
Well done sir
Thanks
Hey man sweet build . Im building a squarebody motorhome that I have done a p pump swap and 4x4 conversion to . I live in Alberta . You should see a video soon I'll make it
just subbed, waiting for that video
47rh trans over the a518 it has overdrive and torque converter lockup. The OD for either can be done on a switch or Hobbs system
A518 has overdrive. Earlier models in the early 90s didn’t have lock up
6:14…”That’s not my bag baby”
Cool. My dad happens to have if not the first ever one of the first 10 Cummins to Chevy swaps ever done and the paperwork to prove it. All done in house at a Cummins shop before dodge Cummins trucks actually came to market. If anyone would be interested.
I wish
Post a video of that truck.
@@burkey426 I don't have a video of it. I'm not a youtuber. If you are interested in it then let me know and I'll see if I can get you a video maybe.
What are you using for a fuel filter setup?
I'm in the middle of this swap. Going into a 1983 K30 auto truck. Also going to manual. My engine has some weird stuff on it though because it came out of a box truck. No vacuum pump just a BIG power steering pump. Some big Ford alternator. The fan hub, alternator and AC compressor are in different places than the ones that came in pickups. So far I haven't had to notch the frame or sway bar cross member. But the trans isn't in yet so that will rock the engine forward. I've been dreading setting up the hydraulic clutch linkage though. I KNOW it's going to be a pain.
You’re not wrong. Make sure you find a factory Squarebody clutch petal setup.
@@samstrucks I got a question for you as you've done a few of these swaps, and driven them as well. I have the same engine mount and cross member kit that you talk about. Have you needed to do anything to reinforce the engine cross member? Mine only has 2 bolts on the bottom of each frame rail, and 2 larger bolts going through the engine mount brackets. My truck is a 1 ton so I understand the frame is slightly thicker. But that doesn't seem like enough to bear the weight and torque of the diesel with essentially only 8 bolts. 4 on frame and 4 on engine mount pockets. My engine is labeled as outputting 230HP and 605ft lbs of torque from the factory. It has the "straight" transmission cross member that I'm going to modify to fit. And it looks pretty beefy. With all new high strength Energy Suspension mounts. But that seems like a lot of weight and torque to put on those cross members. Thanks.
@@Bloodbain88 What did you end up doing? I am about to start this swap.
Have you ever thought about doing a tractor engine or a Perkins?
The NV4500 has a bolt on bell housing, so if it was impossible for you to find one with the dodge bell housing on it but you were able to order a dodge bell and had a Chevy NV4500 you would be fine. Only thing to make sure of is the actual bolt pattern for the bell to transmission being the same.
Splines are different too
@@samstrucks true!
very good video sir, I want to swap a 5.9 6bt, for a 1973 Dodge D200 adventure, do you think it's worth it, and do I have to modify the brakes, suspension? Do you recommend me? greetings
Great job, very informative
Thank you.
In the plan to put a Cummins p pump in a Winnebago, I'm not sure what transmission to use 🤔, any recommendations that would handle the weight? Can't afford an Allison, though that would be nice.
Th400 gm
Knowledgeable 🦠🧪💯 building me a c30 now 🧪🦠
Are you not adding major reinforcement on your frame and crossmembers to accommodate that huge heavy engine??
Those Chevy gasoline tanks are galvanized on the inside and the diesel tanks are not, that much is fact. They say, the injection pump will fail prematurely due to microscopic pieces of the galvanized layer making its way through the filters and into the injection pump. Opinions will differ on that of course. Just FYI.
Ok you’re the second person to say they got the motor mounts from summit
We are wanting to put a Cummins in a 72 c-10 swb. We already have a 98.5 Cummins 24 valve with factory trans and all computers.
Would you recommend using it or selling for a mechanical motor
Thank for the content. Can you tell me about the wheel caps you have on this project?
They are just cheapies off eBay. 8x6.5 with spike lugs
hope to do that mine is automatic 2wd ty i am 70 would be my dream truck
Do it!
Hello Sam excellent job on your Chevy. Hey Brother i have a question i have a 1968 Ford F250 4x4 high boy I’m done installing my Cummins 5.9 with getrag 5 but the only issue I’m having is the power steering should i go with a dodge power steering box..i know your a Chevy guy is it possible you can help me with this. Thanks
Just go with the ford one
Nice , but why not leave a transmission? They sell the adopter plates.
Because it is nice to go faster than 40mph
Question on the fuel system, you said you hooked the p pump to the factory chevy lines, what'd you do with the in ta k fuel pump?
There is no intake fuel pump on trucks 86 and down. 87 they switched to TBI and in-tank lift pumps
Where did you find the 45° elbow going into the turbo, coming over the top of the valve cover?
It’s one of the intercooler piping pieces off of a first GEN
Now with the motor mount adapter do you have to run second gen motor mounts or will the 1st gen motor mounts work
You ditch the dodge mounts and just use Chevy frame side motor mounts and summit racing engine side
I was wondering why the 2wd and 4wd makes a difference if you could answer that would be great
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Did you have any issues with oil pan clearance?
No sir
So I had a tbi 454 doing a 12v swap it had the 65psi fuel pumps in could I swap to older model sqaurebody fuel pumps
All you need is the lift pump that’s on the 12 valve Cummins
May I ask, what clutch master slave cylinder you used the link did not work for me.🤔
Dodge first Gen
My truck has a turbo 400 with a shift kit. Couldn't I add a gear vendors overdrive to it and get along nice enough? With a 5.9 P pump that's mostly stock. No crazy horses here.
You could yep. But after you buy the adapter plate and gear vendors you’ll be looking at roughly $4500 just for those parts. You’ll also need a 1900 stall converter and flex plate.
@@samstrucks Ok thanks for the come back. Not sure yet what I'm gonna do yet. Just getting all possible options figured out. Looking at Perkins diesel combine engines now! LOL
@@wadericker4795
I was looking for a gear venders or the older Doug Nash overdrive unit.
A few years ago I had my 2004.5 Ram auto trans rebuilt. The rebuilder said ALL Dodge automatic transmissions do not last behind even a stock Cummins. When I dropped off my truck... he had 14 Cummins trucks there, all autos.
I asked about a possible future Cummins swap with my built th400. He said no way. What kills the autos is the Cummins torque. TH400 can't hold it even on a mild stock Cummins.
So my recommendation is get the Dodge manual trans or matching auto trans and if you go auto prepare for an inevitable rebuild (with upgrades).
Not sure if you would know or not or a veiwer may, if doing a 2wd auto truck(86) instead of cutting the trans tunnel, wouod doing a body lift kit do same? Or not enough?
Yes you could. But it would look pretty wack, because you’d have to go 3-4”. Just cut it man
@@samstrucks didnt know was so much. I thought 1 or 2 maybe but yeah sounds like cutting will be in my future
Do you know what slip yoke I need for my 91 Dodge nv 4500? I'm putting it in my 86 f350
Not sure
I want to do my 1985 f350.
I have one question my truck is a 87 crew cab c30 454 big block truck i got. The truck with no engine or trans and im in the process of cummins swapping and wiring is alil confusing cause the engine and trans was already gone alil bit of help would help me out alot
Just do what I said in the video and you’ll be good. I covered all the wiring
im curious about your opinion on a full 24v swap over a 12v. It should be pretty much the same swap but with more electrical?
Yep! The main difference is the throttle petal. You have to use the 2nd Gen electric throttle petal. Otherwise it’s pretty simple! Run power to the ECM and you’re good to go
@samstrucks cool I'm buying an 86 chevy 3+3 tomorrow that has a trashed 6.2 in it. Just trying to decide between a 12v or 24v. I've heard 24v are just more efficient.
@@samstrucks
I wanted to ask a similar question. I have a spare 2004.5 engine that I love. I was wondering if that's a dumb swap. Should I backdate the engine and make it a 12v p-pump? I've heard the 12v injectors are also more reliable.
It's all hearsay to me. I just don't know.
If you were in Ontario I’d pay you to do my swap
Hello Sir. We’re you able to connect the Chevy speedometer to the NV45 transmission. My connections are different. Thanks Man!
No, I didn’t. Nv4500 is electronic output. But I’m sure there is someone who’s done it might be worth looking it up
GPS speedometer will make your life easier. Very accurate regardless of wheel diameters.
What electric radiator fan did you end up using?
Just a cheap parts store one
have you done a 4bt swap in a square? i have a square up in canada im considering a swap
No, but it would be the same thing
I was planning on doing a 47rh in mine, should I avoid that?
Yes
if your donor truck is a C10 do you have to upgrade to a c20 front end and springs?
I would yep
Wilson
If you're hauling heavy... the 3/4 and 1 ton frames are thicker. High GVWR 1 tons have extra braces in the frame.
1/2T
3/4T
1T
Each one has a light and heavy duty brake system in the front.... so that's 6 possible brakes set ups.
The codes are j3 j5 j6 j7 etc.
It's a full spindle swap, bearings, seals, rotors (thickness), calipers are all a matched set.
Rear brakes are also have options.
Master cylinder and boosters are also coded j5 j6 j7 etc.
If you're just having fun with it, just swap springs to square body 454 with AC springs. Enjoy sir.
What’d you do for a throttle cable?
Dodge 2gen
Would a nv5600 fit the same?
Should be about the same Yep
Gas tank and fuel sender?
Factory
Stock front springs?
Yep
Why do you say it's not worth it to put a air to air on it? Does it not cool the charge air down enough? I live in Kansas, like today it got up to 105° F. Wouldn't I need a air to air if I was pulling a heavy load on a hot day?
It would help, but it mainly depends on how much fuel your pushing. If your truck is majorly turned up it may be something you need.
@@samstrucks I don't plan on turning it up a bunch. 300 horse is plenty for me.
@@wadericker4795
My 2004.5 H.O. is
325 hp/600 tq
100% stock.
It did anything never asked of it easily no sweat and 18-22 MPG all day.
Will a NV5600 work with this?
You bet. Just make sure you have the right bell housing adaptor plate for the back of your Cummins block
@@samstrucks sweet that'll save me some money since i got one laying around
no 47rh?
Same thing as a a518 really
The lockup on the 47rh vs the A518 is a game changer if you can find the 47 then it's much better, only problem is the need for lockup control, so either run a second toggle switch to manually lock it or find a suitable controller.
Do you have a email to where I can contact you?
Message me 5877036048
Hood stack it
Can you clarify which NV4500 tranny. I installed a 4500 behind my 454 in an 81 GMC Sierra 3500
and I understood your comment to mean there are two versions of the 4500
There is a GM version and a dodge version
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very good video sir, I want to swap a 5.9 6bt, for a 1973 Dodge D200 adventure, do you think it's worth it, and do I have to modify the brakes, suspension? Do you recommend me? greetings