Was just about to look to see if you had already swapped it and then realized you just barely posted this. The one time I hate to be early. This is going to be a kick ass swap. Good luck.
cant stand when I finally find a good build to watch and its currently being put together. its like my projects in real life, have to wait to see how it turns out
Good project. Have experience with these in turbo marine form. They are very responsive to timing. Run a few degrees extra advance. Make yourself a high pressure hose with injector coupling nuts. These engines can crack the injector lines. Once one cracks you go nowhere. Put the hose on and it'll drive home on 7 cylinders. The hose will flex and you won't get injection on that cylinder, but you will get home. High idle is how you set governed RPM. Raise it a few 100 rpm and then figure your boost. Anything above about 25 psi boost and the head gaskets will weep. The 300+ HP marine engines use oil cooled pistons. Since you don't have oil cooled pistons, instead of lots of fuel and high piston temps at lower speeds, wind it a bit more and get the HP with RPM. These engines are tough. The lower end will take the RPM 😊
Take my advice as someone who has a eaton 10 speed in a truck, take the top cover off and put a new seal kit in range piston. Mine will leak air sometimes bad when it gets any cold temps and eventually will fail so much easier to do outside than in the truck. The seal kit is very cheap on the bad end you may need to replace the top cover if it has pitted the cover. This is assuming your eaton is the same as mine or similar. You can also buy a clutch housing that is made for a hudraulic slave cylinder and makes doing the linkages etc much easier because you can have a hydraulic shop make you a hose to run from your slave cyl and the master cyl.
@@STROKER-GARAGE if you do go the hydraulic route and don't use the original mechanical linkage be sure and buy a heavy duty clutch master because these semi clutch kits are quite stout and I highly doubt the OEM Ford can handle them.
At your transmission output shaft just make a flat flange so you can bolt your SD drive shaft to. Look into SD Cummins swaps you can use an aftermarket hydraulic pump for your power steering (I have one on mine and it works awesome) Go with a 03-07 truck I feel the front axle setup is a little better vs the 7.3s. I'll be following this build ... good luck
Thank you for the advice! That’s what I’ve been thinking about the output too. Then I can always ad a divorced T-case if I want one. I’m going to mount the engine then decide accesories and placement by what clearance I have. I plan to build it with Air ride suspension too.
For the twin turbos, try looking into using dual volute turbos rather than normal ones. They give better throttle response and can make more power than an equivalent normal turbo of the same size, for the cost of a slightly more complex exhaust setup. I'm not too sure if anyone makes them big enough for an engine like this, though, a pair of custom one-off dual volute turbos sounds really cool but probably expensive.
I'm a Cat generator tech. I've seen several of these in generators. Would make a great f350 truck engine like you said. A co-worker has talked about doing the same thing.
@@STROKER-GARAGE, install stronger axles ASAP. 2.5 ton Rockwells with modern internals and 8 lug disk brake conversion would be good. Also, you can get a sleeve kit for the 3208, ignore the "disposable" nonsense, they can indeed be resleeved. Also, if you put the money into it, these engines can make great power numbers.
Im in the process of putting an eaton behind a cummins. My solution for the transfer case was to find a 205 from a ford, center mount it in the truck, make up 2 equal length output shafts for sake of possibly blowing them up and needing a spare. And since its a divorced case, just make an input shaft that converts to the output of the eaton.
A tow monster 2wd f550 would be sick. With that motor the truck won’t be useful for much else. 2wd would take weight off the nose, allow for more space, and make it easy to run air suspension which would be cool and help a ton with the engine weight
For the clutch release, F650/750 trucks with eaton synchro shifts have the hydraulic linkage pushing a mechanical release lever. You would just need to adapt the bracket a bit to fit the RT transmission.
Dude this is awesome! I'm almost done swapping one into my old dodge farm truck super excited to see this! I'm sure yours will be much less mad max looking than mine lol. Let me know if you want pictures
A good little motor I had one in a Ford 10 wheeler a long wheel base in Arizona, good flatland truck but going up hills loaded, not too good, but in a pickup👍
The easy way to do your driveshaft is get a shaft yoke and machine it down to the diameter of your driveshaft, might even be able to use a slip yoke that fits that series of u-joint if the od of the yoke is close to the tube id. I remember back in the 80's when the diesels were just coming out in pickups seeing a magazine article featuring a Chev one ton dually where someone replaced the 6.2 with a 3208. can't remember what transmission they ran though. You can definately make some horses with them as I've seen a few guys running them in pulling tractors running twin turbos.
I like the idea but it's going to eliminate a lot of things you might eventually decide you want. I was thinking of an F550 with a larger engine bay, different frame and suspension that can survive the torque without becoming a pretzel. You could tow much more than an F350 chassis would allow, too. I'll be watching your progress!
I took a 3126 out of an FL 70 and replaced it with a turboed 3208 and an Allison 4 speed automatic and got 13 miles to the gallon!!! It wasn't easy to fit into a straight frame truck though!
I’d suggest a f450. You can find one in phx, with the diesel engine issues rust free in craiglist for cheap. Perfect for this engine and tranny combo. I have thinking of building something similar for my truck, but your combo is better and I’m going with it.
13:20 I put one of those 3208's in a car, used a parking brake cable and made a bolt in clutch bracket out of rebar for it. just make sure their is two points of linkage adjustment... the W300 dodge couldn't lift the 3000lb all of it to get in the old dent side F100 but it rolls as is, creating a base line.
Best dadgum medium duty diesel engine made by International. Heavy as lead and sorta underpowered but the pre-emission ones would run forever. I’ve often wondered how much they could safely be tweaked.
Had one of these in a tanker that was used daily in city traffic. Not the quickest but driveable with twin stick 5+4. Be sure the timing advance is operating properly as after installation in anything not built for it will be almost impossible. Don't even try to 4x4 too many
You can make a new driveshaft with the original yoke from your truck driveshaft and after the carrier bearing. Convert the input to a truck style input yoke or a converted rear driveshaft section. You have a great idea and you might wanna just use a 2 ton rear axle so you don't strip out the rear axle, and you can put a driveshaft in much easier.
C60 chevy, you can get them cheap. Buy 2 and quad cab it. They have long frames cut it to fit your needs, get 2.5 ton Rockwell axles from Western Canadian Rockwell inc. They have great prices. You could even do rear steer or tandem axles. Not my money just my personal dream. Now, I want to do more research on the 3208.
Trying to get a crew cab 4x4 6 speed into my garage hopefully sooner rather than later. This CAT swap is such a cool idea can't wait to see it come together. You have so many cool trucks. Plz do the the OBS f350 they are such beautiful trucks.
I would go with a divorced t case. An np205 would hold up fine. I've seen them hold up to done serious abuse. I have a Ford box truck that has the 3208 turbo in it. I can email pics if you need any info. The divorced case means more shafts but it'll be a much easier 4x4 conversion. Glad to help any way I can! There may be a bigger more suitable t case that's just what comes to mind. I know those 4x4 line trucks have big cases in them but you'll be running out of space pretty quickly.
i put one in a f250 30 years ago. made a great pickup but a little heavy on the front end. I put air shocks on the front springs to compensate for the weight
i could get 80 mph out of mine and 20 mpg. i had the 1140 short stroke truck engine, would turn 3400. the 3208 only goes to 2800 from what i have seen. as i remember they had the truck series 1140.1150 and 1160(same as the 3208). ran my conversion for 9 years with only an injector failure.
torque is all I need, holy crap I might try this in the future. i'm planning on shoving one of the 4 cyl, Cummins engines from a backhoe or something and putting that into my ranger. this would fit along nicely with that!
Good luck that's a beast. Nice build there will be no space for a turbo any where unless you make a custom manifold to put the turbos as Far to the front as possible if you find a problem putting it just take a another breath cut or move the hang up and keep going with the build
Both are cast, the turbo ones have a steel ring cast in the top to counter the thermal expansion rate of aluminium, at the higher temps in a turbo engine.
You can buy a custom drive line to go from the Eaton to a separated np205 any Ford np205 will work but you have to change the internals to a separated transfer cass
Yes! This would be ideal. Actually one with a gas engine would be easier because of less wiring and computers to run the dash cluster. I’m looking for one as we speak.
@@STROKER-GARAGE bang for the buck seems the way to go. Down here in Texas I see them all over. I currently have a 450 service truck. Waiting for motor to die to transplant Cummins drivetrain. Unfortunately it's running strong.
@@STROKER-GARAGE if you can look at the 450 pickup it's a totally different machine than the 450C&C. You probably know already but The 450 pickup is basically a downrated 550 with the parts number changed. Has some 450 and 350 parts mixed in as well. Idea was to try and get a as much truck as they could into a package without needing a commercial license
When you state Super Duty what are you referring to? Ford has used the Super Duty nomenclature off and on since 1958. Even the OBS body style F-450 (1-1/4 ton) was not called a F-450 but a Super Duty available as a cab chassis only.
Great reliable and adaptable engine they could be tweaked up to 400 hp for marine applications and de rated to 160 hp like in the Cat 613 motor scrapers. They had unbelievable torque but under powered in an elevating scraper, they really should have been 250 hp ideally in that application.
clutch capacity is a function of disc area, coefficient of friction, and PRESSURE. So if you a blowing through your clutches you can go with a pressure plate with more clamp force. I run 3000+ clamp force ram pressure plates with cheap clutch discs to save on cost. You will need a healthy leg though.
210 hp on a good day as it sits, they hate running hot, make sure cooling system is overly good, even though its in a light weight truck heat still kills them gutless turds, the gutless detroits 6/71n out worked the 3208 all day everyday, and our trucks ran great, but your build be great for a f450 or bigger
If this is done, you'll be the third (widely) known person to have done it. The second was Deboss Garage. The first was an old man with a early/mid 90's chevy 3500HD regular cab which can be found online including youtube and a few major magazines. Its also appeared at a few shows. I personally wouldn't use a 3408. They were plagued with problems and and cat parts are expensive.
So one told me that some of the later years 3208. Have the Preston oil coolers Like the turbo option has and the first 3208 no turbo don’t have them so putting a turbo on might over heat the Prestons just something to look in to look like a fun project
Twin turbos seem a little overkill. A single turbo would probably be more ideal for towing and reliability less things to go wrong. And a truck you might be able to get one with a blow motor and transmission. The body style I would chose a super duty. A 2011 would be nice with the newer features probably harder tho. Aside from that this is sounding like an awesome build. The ultimate truck.
I saw a swap like this in the early 90s the valve covers said powered by cat by ford. motor was from a ford gravel Truck. Guy used it to pull his fifth wheel.
3208 was a “ throwaway engine “. The natural aspirated engines were gutless !! Those engines and the Detroit 8.2 L were turds. I worked on mixer & dump trucks back in the day that had 3208’s. I’ve seen a couple of Detroit 4-53 swaps that were pretty cool.
“Throwaway” just like the engine that’s already in most pickup trucks…? The idea is an oversized engine never has to work too hard and will last longer.
@ throw away as in it doesn’t have cylinder liners. So it can’t be in framed. If you have to pull the engine to rebuild it, then may as well throw it away. Then install a new one. That’s where the term came from.
I would look around for a larger truck like a F600 and convert it down with smaller tires to make it more pickup like. If you wanted to use your 3208 and 10 speed it would be a lot simpler. Maybe use a RT 610 trans. They are a little smaller and it would be easier to install.
Interesting. I have a cat 3208 in my RV. Currently mine has over 70psi oil pressure. Sadly it feels a bit gutless empty. Haven't yet loaded it up. Suppose to 12,000lb carry weight.
Unless it's going to break the springs or frame, bigger engine is always better. P.S. A 3" body lift is very nice when engine swapping. I have it in my '78 Bronco with the 5.9 Cummins engine, and it really makes life easier.
would it not be better to get a factory turbo engine because they gave a lower compression ratio compared to na meaning they have different pistons and i know other engine have different piston rings, valves, valve seats and some other stuff that allows it to handle the higher pressures and temperatures.
What about rear mount compound turbo setup, it would give benefit of space, lot less heat under the hood also could leave exhaust manifolds as it is. Since there is no plan for intercooler and there is enough space for pipes, might be an option 🤓
Glad you enjoyed it, and thank you for your response! It’s definitely going to be an incredible setup. Here in Europe, such big trucks are a rarity-let alone a setup like the one you have in mind 😂. I’m honestly jealous of the freedom to create something like that. On a related note, I recently saw a post about a guy in Italy who installed an agricultural Iveco Vector V12 engine with four turbochargers, pushing 1,500 hp, into an old Iveco semi-truck chassis. Unfortunately, he got busted on the motorway, fined €4,300, had his license suspended, and the truck confiscated 🫡. No appreciation for such a masterpiece 🥲.
In Europe we have ZF GS6-53DZ. It's rated for 700nm Factory trim but easily takes 1000nm. Also they are €200 here. I don't know those numbers in freedom units.
I have had one in a Topkick. It was slow, slow, dirty girl. My teacher put one in his 1/2 ton chevy in 1992. I replaced his clutch shortly after. He had a habit of starting out in 3rd gear, just cause he could! LOL.
@@STROKER-GARAGE My budies keep trashing my old 6.9 idi cause shes slow and keep giving me issues but she low miles and has been abused for 30 years and the truck came with a turbo she just needs some lovw
It's funny all these comments from the know it alls who can't comprehend what these 3208s even at factory settings would be like in a 8000lb pick up truck lol "Real dogs those things. Hardly do 45 mph with 50 thousand pounds in the mountains I tell ya what sonny boy yer wasting ur time" hahaha like don't these dumb people understand wiegh/hp/torque ratios
@brentrussell780 people say shit like that because they assume power equals fast quite the contrary my old 6.9 idi is a strong engine will drag 10k lbs with ease in my little 3/4 ton struggles on the hills but that thing s 0-60 is like 10-12 business days but it's far from gutless
There is a guy on UA-cam who did a 10 speed swap on his channel with all the parts that anyone would need to check him out, but that being said go air over hydraulic clutch slave cyclider its pretty simple and easy to convert to any applications.
Was just about to look to see if you had already swapped it and then realized you just barely posted this. The one time I hate to be early. This is going to be a kick ass swap. Good luck.
Follow along. I’ll document the entire process
@@STROKER-GARAGEhell yea
Yeah I’m following along for this
cant stand when I finally find a good build to watch and its currently being put together. its like my projects in real life, have to wait to see how it turns out
@@50ccog yeah I know. I will try to make this build a main focus. Follow along for updates.
as a Cat mechanic and a Ford fan a 3208 swap has been something I wanted to try or see, so glad to see someone else try it!
I’m glad you like the idea!
It was popular in the late 70s-80s. Most often in Ford 350 s.
We had them in C-8000 Ford cabover Fire Trucks. Ran great. Never had any issues.
I saw a 3208 Cat put in a new F250 4by4 back in the early 1980s they did a beautiful job it looked like a factory installation.
Would have liked to see it
Good project. Have experience with these in turbo marine form. They are very responsive to timing. Run a few degrees extra advance. Make yourself a high pressure hose with injector coupling nuts. These engines can crack the injector lines. Once one cracks you go nowhere. Put the hose on and it'll drive home on 7 cylinders. The hose will flex and you won't get injection on that cylinder, but you will get home.
High idle is how you set governed RPM. Raise it a few 100 rpm and then figure your boost. Anything above about 25 psi boost and the head gaskets will weep. The 300+ HP marine engines use oil cooled pistons. Since you don't have oil cooled pistons, instead of lots of fuel and high piston temps at lower speeds, wind it a bit more and get the HP with RPM. These engines are tough. The lower end will take the RPM 😊
Take my advice as someone who has a eaton 10 speed in a truck, take the top cover off and put a new seal kit in range piston. Mine will leak air sometimes bad when it gets any cold temps and eventually will fail so much easier to do outside than in the truck. The seal kit is very cheap on the bad end you may need to replace the top cover if it has pitted the cover. This is assuming your eaton is the same as mine or similar. You can also buy a clutch housing that is made for a hudraulic slave cylinder and makes doing the linkages etc much easier because you can have a hydraulic shop make you a hose to run from your slave cyl and the master cyl.
Thank you for the advice! I will look into it
@@STROKER-GARAGE if you do go the hydraulic route and don't use the original mechanical linkage be sure and buy a heavy duty clutch master because these semi clutch kits are quite stout and I highly doubt the OEM Ford can handle them.
Okay. I’d honestly prefer mechanical for reliability. I’ll see what I can make happen
perfect! can't wait, I've got one in my camper (Pusher) it's turbo, 300hp and 750 torque, they work good and cheap parts, have fun!
Sounds like a good time in a camper!
They are junk always have been
@@huvvy
They are really rock solid, super reliable and dependable engines, i feel that they were made of rocks !!!
@@huvvyyour life is junk, little man
hey man , i'm here to tell you i am really excited to see you do this swap , by all means take your time , you just earned a new sub !!
Thanks for the support!!
At your transmission output shaft just make a flat flange so you can bolt your SD drive shaft to. Look into SD Cummins swaps you can use an aftermarket hydraulic pump for your power steering (I have one on mine and it works awesome) Go with a 03-07 truck I feel the front axle setup is a little better vs the 7.3s. I'll be following this build ... good luck
Thank you for the advice!
That’s what I’ve been thinking about the output too. Then I can always ad a divorced T-case if I want one. I’m going to mount the engine then decide accesories and placement by what clearance I have. I plan to build it with Air ride suspension too.
For the twin turbos, try looking into using dual volute turbos rather than normal ones. They give better throttle response and can make more power than an equivalent normal turbo of the same size, for the cost of a slightly more complex exhaust setup. I'm not too sure if anyone makes them big enough for an engine like this, though, a pair of custom one-off dual volute turbos sounds really cool but probably expensive.
I'm a Cat generator tech. I've seen several of these in generators. Would make a great f350 truck engine like you said. A co-worker has talked about doing the same thing.
Yeah I think it should do pretty good since it will never have to work too hard
@@STROKER-GARAGE, install stronger axles ASAP. 2.5 ton Rockwells with modern internals and 8 lug disk brake conversion would be good. Also, you can get a sleeve kit for the 3208, ignore the "disposable" nonsense, they can indeed be resleeved. Also, if you put the money into it, these engines can make great power numbers.
This is so cool, eager to see it come together.
Follow along for updates
Door deer dent is cool. Get on with the 10.4l swap!!
I’ll have an update soon! Don’t miss it
Im in the process of putting an eaton behind a cummins. My solution for the transfer case was to find a 205 from a ford, center mount it in the truck, make up 2 equal length output shafts for sake of possibly blowing them up and needing a spare. And since its a divorced case, just make an input shaft that converts to the output of the eaton.
Thanks for the input. Great idea. I like the concept
A tow monster 2wd f550 would be sick. With that motor the truck won’t be useful for much else. 2wd would take weight off the nose, allow for more space, and make it easy to run air suspension which would be cool and help a ton with the engine weight
Yeah! I’m still ironing out the details. Follow along to see the process
For the clutch release, F650/750 trucks with eaton synchro shifts have the hydraulic linkage pushing a mechanical release lever. You would just need to adapt the bracket a bit to fit the RT transmission.
Dude this is awesome! I'm almost done swapping one into my old dodge farm truck super excited to see this! I'm sure yours will be much less mad max looking than mine lol. Let me know if you want pictures
That’s awesome. Please contact me on instagram! I’d love to see your build. I’m hoping the finished product will look almost original
A good little motor I had one in a Ford 10 wheeler a long wheel base in Arizona, good flatland truck but going up hills loaded, not too good, but in a pickup👍
The easy way to do your driveshaft is get a shaft yoke and machine it down to the diameter of your driveshaft, might even be able to use a slip yoke that fits that series of u-joint if the od of the yoke is close to the tube id.
I remember back in the 80's when the diesels were just coming out in pickups seeing a magazine article featuring a Chev one ton dually where someone replaced the 6.2 with a 3208. can't remember what transmission they ran though. You can definately make some horses with them as I've seen a few guys running them in pulling tractors running twin turbos.
Thanks for the info! I was thinking the same thing about machining a yoke to fit.
I like the idea but it's going to eliminate a lot of things you might eventually decide you want. I was thinking of an F550 with a larger engine bay, different frame and suspension that can survive the torque without becoming a pretzel. You could tow much more than an F350 chassis would allow, too. I'll be watching your progress!
Thanks for the input. If this goes well I will consider a F700 or something like that next
@@STROKER-GARAGE, box the frame and upgrade the axles, the stock bearings will be overloaded, along with the springs, shocks, r&p gears, etc...
The injection pump is cute lol, I agree. Awesome project!
I took a 3126 out of an FL 70 and replaced it with a turboed 3208 and an Allison 4 speed automatic and got 13 miles to the gallon!!! It wasn't easy to fit into a straight frame truck though!
Single ring pistons..
Also change plastic water tubes between water pump and both heads unless they are bronze not plastic.
Good motors.
Yeah that’s the plan. Might upgrade pistons too. Thanks for the info
I’d suggest a f450. You can find one in phx, with the diesel engine issues rust free in craiglist for cheap. Perfect for this engine and tranny combo. I have thinking of building something similar for my truck, but your combo is better and I’m going with it.
I’ve got a 3208T complete. Looking at sticking it in a 97 F250. Also got an Allison and a 4spd aux with it!
13:20 I put one of those 3208's in a car, used a parking brake cable and made a bolt in clutch bracket out of rebar for it. just make sure their is two points of linkage adjustment... the W300 dodge couldn't lift the 3000lb all of it to get in the old dent side F100 but it rolls as is, creating a base line.
Good thinking
A friend of mine had 2 in his 34 foot tollycraft. Good equipment
If you plan on some other swaps in your future, consider a DT466. Look into it. Wont disappoint. 3208 is tough. They are in older TR NH combines.
I have been considering this! Maybe I’ll put one in an excursion
Best dadgum medium duty diesel engine made by International. Heavy as lead and sorta underpowered but the pre-emission ones would run forever. I’ve often wondered how much they could safely be tweaked.
I appreciate the info. I will be keeping my eyes out for a good one.
They made a dt360 they also made a DT 506 or something like that
If someone will put a 50 Series in something I will donate money Detroit 50 Series 4 cylinder Monster Diesel
Had one of these in a tanker that was used daily in city traffic. Not the quickest but driveable with twin stick 5+4. Be sure the timing advance is operating properly as after installation in anything not built for it will be almost impossible. Don't even try to 4x4 too many
You can make a new driveshaft with the original yoke from your truck driveshaft and after the carrier bearing. Convert the input to a truck style input yoke or a converted rear driveshaft section. You have a great idea and you might wanna just use a 2 ton rear axle so you don't strip out the rear axle, and you can put a driveshaft in much easier.
That’s a good idea. I would really like higher gearing tho.
Definitely has the sound 👌
C60 chevy, you can get them cheap. Buy 2 and quad cab it. They have long frames cut it to fit your needs, get 2.5 ton Rockwell axles from Western Canadian Rockwell inc. They have great prices. You could even do rear steer or tandem axles. Not my money just my personal dream. Now, I want to do more research on the 3208.
Why put a chevy cab on a Ford?
What divorce transfer case do you plan on using? I don’t see how you can use a factory t-case.
Trying to get a crew cab 4x4 6 speed into my garage hopefully sooner rather than later. This CAT swap is such a cool idea can't wait to see it come together. You have so many cool trucks. Plz do the the OBS f350 they are such beautiful trucks.
Follow along to see the build. I might 6.0 swap a OBS next
@@STROKER-GARAGE 👍 already subbed with notifications!
Curious how that 10 speed hooks up to the Cat. Stay warm 👍😁
I would go with a divorced t case. An np205 would hold up fine. I've seen them hold up to done serious abuse. I have a Ford box truck that has the 3208 turbo in it. I can email pics if you need any info. The divorced case means more shafts but it'll be a much easier 4x4 conversion. Glad to help any way I can! There may be a bigger more suitable t case that's just what comes to mind. I know those 4x4 line trucks have big cases in them but you'll be running out of space pretty quickly.
Thanks for the info! I’ll keep it in mind.
i put one in a f250 30 years ago. made a great pickup but a little heavy on the front end. I put air shocks on the front springs to compensate for the weight
I’m probably going to do full air ride with 4 link
i could get 80 mph out of mine and 20 mpg. i had the 1140 short stroke truck engine, would turn 3400. the 3208 only goes to 2800 from what i have seen. as i remember they had the truck series 1140.1150 and 1160(same as the 3208). ran my conversion for 9 years with only an injector failure.
torque is all I need, holy crap I might try this in the future. i'm planning on shoving one of the 4 cyl, Cummins engines from a backhoe or something and putting that into my ranger. this would fit along nicely with that!
That’s awesome! Follow along to see the progress
Good luck that's a beast. Nice build there will be no space for a turbo any where unless you make a custom manifold to put the turbos as Far to the front as possible if you find a problem putting it just take a another breath cut or move the hang up and keep going with the build
Thanks for the input.
I plan on hacking the firewall and making a dog house in my excursion for my 3208T swap
11:49 you're not going to go with an intercooler? Why not?
I love it I am gonna flow along and hopefully do this in my 6.0 service truck
N/A 3208 used cast pistons. The turbo version has forged. There is a reason Caterpillar did that. Just so you know.
Thanks for the info. I might do an overhaul and upgrade components once I do the research
dont know about the 3208 but i do know alot of times the turbo versions of diesel engines would have underskirt cooling and different camshafts.
They were a very cheap engine with no liners …..perfect for
Both are cast, the turbo ones have a steel ring cast in the top to counter the thermal expansion rate of aluminium, at the higher temps in a turbo engine.
Junk
You can buy a custom drive line to go from the Eaton to a separated np205 any Ford np205 will work but you have to change the internals to a separated transfer cass
I’ll keep that in mind
Seems like a blown up 6.4 in 450 or 550 would be ideal due to frame, axles. I like the exterior/interior of cab.
Yes! This would be ideal. Actually one with a gas engine would be easier because of less wiring and computers to run the dash cluster. I’m looking for one as we speak.
@@STROKER-GARAGE bang for the buck seems the way to go. Down here in Texas I see them all over. I currently have a 450 service truck. Waiting for motor to die to transplant Cummins drivetrain. Unfortunately it's running strong.
@@STROKER-GARAGE if you can look at the 450 pickup it's a totally different machine than the 450C&C. You probably know already but The 450 pickup is basically a downrated 550 with the parts number changed. Has some 450 and 350 parts mixed in as well. Idea was to try and get a as much truck as they could into a package without needing a commercial license
@@PandorasFollyyeah. I have owned a few f450s and f550s. I just don’t like the low gearing
@STROKER-GARAGE I mean you're already switching engines....might as well take care of the rest of the drive train
I put a 3208 in a 1600 international and put a 7 speed transmission in was a lot smaller and easier than a 10 speed and it worked fine
I love Obs fords, I have two, saving up currently to get a white crew cab one and swapping a 3208 turbo in it when I have the funds
That’s awesome!
When you state Super Duty what are you referring to? Ford has used the Super Duty nomenclature off and on since 1958. Even the OBS body style F-450 (1-1/4 ton) was not called a F-450 but a Super Duty available as a cab chassis only.
This is an legendary engine...one of the few I would consider.....
Great reliable and adaptable engine they could be tweaked up to 400 hp for marine applications and de rated to 160 hp like in the Cat 613 motor scrapers. They had unbelievable torque but under powered in an elevating scraper, they really should have been 250 hp ideally in that application.
Interested to see how it turns out. 3208 would be a fun swap
I thinks so!
She shure gonna smoke until she get hot. Traffic gonna stay WAY BACK in the morning 🌄 😂😂😂
I just got finished putting a 3208 cat into a 68 dodge w200 fits like a glove got a spicer 5 speed transmission behind it
That’s so awesome!!
Just buy a big rear diff, and have the drive yokes match, then you just need to weld the pipe in.
I was lucky enough to get to drive a rig with one of these motors. Great engine.
Yeah, they really are great engines.
Junk engine
Diesel guy here. Leave it stock. Try not revving high. Crank throwing s.o.b.,s They did call that one in the 80,s" throw away Cat."
Pure junk
clutch capacity is a function of disc area, coefficient of friction, and PRESSURE. So if you a blowing through your clutches you can go with a pressure plate with more clamp force. I run 3000+ clamp force ram pressure plates with cheap clutch discs to save on cost. You will need a healthy leg though.
I really appreciate the input. This is great information. I’ll be sure to look into it.
210 hp on a good day as it sits, they hate running hot, make sure cooling system is overly good, even though its in a light weight truck heat still kills them gutless turds, the gutless detroits 6/71n out worked the 3208 all day everyday, and our trucks ran great, but your build be great for a f450 or bigger
It should never be worked very hard
I joked with my friend that I'm gonna put a 3208 in my 93' k1500, now, I will be watching your progress with great interest
Probably would want to upgrade your front axle…
@@jamespierce1252 Yes. very much so
Sounds neat but that’s a heavy engine!
Have you watched the Deboss Garage series where he put a 3126 in a 350. It looks and runs good after he worked out the bugs
Good ole 320shake! Great cold starters but vibrate pretty bad
That’s okay. I’ll have good engine mounts
@STROKER-GARAGE That's good, it'll be good to see it done
If this is done, you'll be the third (widely) known person to have done it. The second was Deboss Garage. The first was an old man with a early/mid 90's chevy 3500HD regular cab which can be found online including youtube and a few major magazines. Its also appeared at a few shows.
I personally wouldn't use a 3408. They were plagued with problems and and cat parts are expensive.
@@charlesstevenson5141 they did a 3126
So one told me that some of the later years 3208. Have the Preston oil coolers Like the turbo option has and the first 3208 no turbo don’t have them so putting a turbo on might over heat the Prestons just something to look in to look like a fun project
I will be running EGT and EOT gauges to monitor vitals
Twin turbos seem a little overkill. A single turbo would probably be more ideal for towing and reliability less things to go wrong. And a truck you might be able to get one with a blow motor and transmission. The body style I would chose a super duty. A 2011 would be nice with the newer features probably harder tho. Aside from that this is sounding like an awesome build. The ultimate truck.
Twin turbos are just for the challenge.
I think I’m going with the earlier model since a have more spare parts
Subscribed and notifications on - this will be wild if you pull it off
I appreciate the support!!
seen your shit on tiktok this is gonna be cool as fuck can’t wait to see er done man
Thank you! I appreciate the support!
Subbed , can’t wait to see this , big 3208 fan
Thanks for the support! I will have an update soon!
I did soooo many head gaskets on those boat anchor of a engine
I saw a swap like this in the early 90s the valve covers said powered by cat by ford. motor was from a ford gravel Truck. Guy used it to pull his fifth wheel.
That’s super cool!
This is going to be a awesome build
I saw one installed in a one ton chevy 4x4. Those are heavy engines. I wonder what the weight difference is between a 3208 and a 454.
The 3208 is almost 1000 lbs heavier
@@STROKER-GARAGE Holy Cow!
Interesting, I have a 1998 k3500 non dually with the 454, would be a fun swap, but 1000 lbs heavier is crazy 😮
I feel like you should swap this into my excursion!! Lol
Just a bit advise, if you’re going to all the labor find a turbocharger engine. It is a night and day difference!
I’m going to turbo charge this one
1800 lbs! HEAVY! REALLY HEAVY
That’s okay. More traction
3208 was a “ throwaway engine “. The natural aspirated engines were gutless !!
Those engines and the Detroit 8.2 L were turds.
I worked on mixer & dump trucks back in the day that had 3208’s.
I’ve seen a couple of Detroit 4-53 swaps that were pretty cool.
“Throwaway” just like the engine that’s already in most pickup trucks…? The idea is an oversized engine never has to work too hard and will last longer.
@ throw away as in it doesn’t have cylinder liners. So it can’t be in framed.
If you have to pull the engine to rebuild it, then may as well throw it away. Then install a new one. That’s where the term came from.
Yes. But this is exactly like every other light duty diesel on the road so I’m not that concerned.
I would look around for a larger truck like a F600 and convert it down with smaller tires to make it more pickup like. If you wanted to use your 3208 and 10 speed it would be a lot simpler. Maybe use a RT 610 trans. They are a little smaller and it would be easier to install.
This is a good point. And although I have considered it. I don’t need or want to work this engine too hard because I’d like it to still be reliable.
Good luck, i had a buddy stick a 4bt in an Escalade.
Sounds interesting! I wonder how that went?
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There is a 3208 with 435 HP was used in Bristol bay jet boats beaver valley boats
That is awesome! Way to go
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Interesting. I have a cat 3208 in my RV. Currently mine has over 70psi oil pressure. Sadly it feels a bit gutless empty. Haven't yet loaded it up. Suppose to 12,000lb carry weight.
They aren’t the most impressive motors but they sure sound great
Super duties had a little little vacuum pump on the wheel well you could use instead of the vacuum pump.
They use that vacuum pump to run the heater controls. The brakes are hydraulic assisted.
@STROKER-GARAGE correct
Unless it's going to break the springs or frame, bigger engine is always better. P.S. A 3" body lift is very nice when engine swapping. I have it in my '78 Bronco with the 5.9 Cummins engine, and it really makes life easier.
would it not be better to get a factory turbo engine because they gave a lower compression ratio compared to na meaning they have different pistons and i know other engine have different piston rings, valves, valve seats and some other stuff that allows it to handle the higher pressures and temperatures.
Absolutely it would be better if I wanted to keep it stock. I’m going to twin turbo it and upgrade any components I need to.
Love this build 3208 swap in a new super duty
It should be sweet
my buddy has a 3208 cat in his 1985 FORD C9000 firetruck and that truck screams!
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What about rear mount compound turbo setup, it would give benefit of space, lot less heat under the hood also could leave exhaust manifolds as it is. Since there is no plan for intercooler and there is enough space for pipes, might be an option 🤓
This is a great point! The turbo 3208 has a rear mounted turbo. I want the twin turbos for the challenge mostly
Glad you enjoyed it, and thank you for your response! It’s definitely going to be an incredible setup. Here in Europe, such big trucks are a rarity-let alone a setup like the one you have in mind 😂. I’m honestly jealous of the freedom to create something like that.
On a related note, I recently saw a post about a guy in Italy who installed an agricultural Iveco Vector V12 engine with four turbochargers, pushing 1,500 hp, into an old Iveco semi-truck chassis. Unfortunately, he got busted on the motorway, fined €4,300, had his license suspended, and the truck confiscated 🫡. No appreciation for such a masterpiece 🥲.
How is the chassis going to handle the weight of this engine?
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Badass man. I’m over here looking into swapping a 1.9 tdi into my Tacoma 😂 your build will be sick af
I'm glad you like the idea!
1.2 3 cylinder tdi
@@tonydiesel3444 shit I want something that’ll get it up to speed limit 😂
I swapped a 2.0 litre diesel into a 4Runner a while back. It made like 70hp. I don’t recommend it. Hahaha
In Europe we have ZF GS6-53DZ. It's rated for 700nm Factory trim but easily takes 1000nm. Also they are €200 here. I don't know those numbers in freedom units.
Good to know. I’ll look into it
Same engine that was in a roller i used to operate.
Nice!
Deboss garage did the 3126 cat in his ford
great engine, was in lots of smaller earthmoving gear :)
I have had one in a Topkick. It was slow, slow, dirty girl. My teacher put one in his 1/2 ton chevy in 1992. I replaced his clutch shortly after. He had a habit of starting out in 3rd gear, just cause he could! LOL.
They don’t compare to modern diesels but that’s okay
@@STROKER-GARAGE My budies keep trashing my old 6.9 idi cause shes slow and keep giving me issues but she low miles and has been abused for 30 years and the truck came with a turbo she just needs some lovw
It's funny all these comments from the know it alls who can't comprehend what these 3208s even at factory settings would be like in a 8000lb pick up truck lol
"Real dogs those things. Hardly do 45 mph with 50 thousand pounds in the mountains I tell ya what sonny boy yer wasting ur time"
hahaha like don't these dumb people understand wiegh/hp/torque ratios
@brentrussell780 people say shit like that because they assume power equals fast quite the contrary my old 6.9 idi is a strong engine will drag 10k lbs with ease in my little 3/4 ton struggles on the hills but that thing s 0-60 is like 10-12 business days but it's far from gutless
Looking forward to this! 👊🏼
Me too. It will be a fun build
An S6S-T would have been sick
There is a guy on UA-cam who did a 10 speed swap on his channel with all the parts that anyone would need to check him out, but that being said go air over hydraulic clutch slave cyclider its pretty simple and easy to convert to any applications.
Thanks for the tip! I’ll look into it.
I know one of these in a greenhouse that runs a generator for 4 fire tube boilers. Lot of engine for a 1 ton.
It’s perfect for my application!
Built lots of those while I worked at a CAT REMAN Deisel shop.