Film Fix - The Star Wars Prequels
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- With the release of Star Wars Episode 9: The Rise of Skywalker, let's look back on the last time Star Wars ended and discuss how to fix the Prequels.
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This is good aslong as it maintains the very important lines:
"Do it"
"It's treason then"
"I dont like sand"
"Hello there"
etc...
Maybe not "I don't like sand"...
@@CenterRow But not liking sand is an integral part of the story! How could anyone in their right mind remove such a staple of the prequel memes?!
“ only a sith deals in absolutes”
dont forget
"I am the Senate"
"this is where the fun begins"
"General Kenobi"
"I haave the high ground"
I'm suprised Kenobi hasn't showed up to comment yet.... o.o
I can feel it
I can feel the Star Wars fandom storming here soon
I have braced myself
Center Row You underestimate my power!!
@@johngreen8344 Don't try it!
Center Row AaAAa4aRrrGGhH-UUurGgH!
*General pain noises*
*puts clones wars between Aotc and Rots*
me: "The force is strong with this one"
Haha I appreciate it.
Center Row that is the exact thing I’ve been saying for ages they should of just showed tpm in flashbacks
Lionard Kirsch or that
altho the prequels were okish, at least we got the amazing clone wars from it
And do it Saving Private Ryan style. Clones die in thousands, ships blow up, more jedi generals like Pong Krell, PTSD and more Obi-Wan and Anakin doing some bad-ass clanker scrapping.
I feel like if a clone trooper killed Padme, Anakin would try to kill all of the clone troopers.
Haha good point
Could have a jedi unwittingly reflected a blaster bolt into Padme. That would work well enough in the carnage.
@@JOCoStudio1 I could see it happening if it was his 1st day on the job
Nah. The best effect would be if Padmes death would have been indirectly caused by the jedi.
For example: Mace Windu finds out that someone (perhaps the trade federation bosses) have kidnapped Padme and use her as leverage for the Jedi to not perform their final strike against the separatist leaders, but at the same time, Mace knows that if they don't, the separatists will launch a major preemptive attack that will lead to massive civilian casualties. Since saving many is more important than saving one, the jedi attack, and while trying to rescue padme, are too late and she is killed. Ani thus blames the jedi, despite them actually doing what they thought was right. Palpatine, having orchestrated the whole thing to tip Ani towards loyalty to him, reveals that he had a secret plan in order to save her, but the jedi were too fast and he therefor failed (all a lie of course). It can even be so bad that the jedi think that Palpatine wants to warn the separatists in order to save Padme, which would risk their plans, and have to stop the fake rescue, perhaps even using Ani himself - without telling him what the mission he is to stop is about, until after the fact. Palpatine gets Anakins loyalty and trust for having "tried", the jedi look heartless and callous.
Or perhaps its Padme that says that me must stand trial, and a jedi gives her a mortal wound to get her out of the way. This would turn Anakin against the Jedi even more.
I wasn’t expecting to accept it based on the initial pitch due to how much time your Anakin would spend being compromised but, by the end of your Revenge of the Sith, you sold me. That would’ve worked very well.
Thanks!
Perhaps during the middle clone wars movie palpatine sends anakin to kill count duku, thus testing both his aprentaces??
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In an alternate universe, George Lucas decided to continue his plan for Jar Jar to be revealed as the puppet master instead of scrapping the idea due to the harsh criticism that TPM received.
and instead of Palpatine being the main bad guy of The Rise of Skywalker, it would've been Jar Jar
We can only hope
Damn those toxic fanboys
Jar-Jar being a vessel of Darth Plagueis via Sith Transference would have been such an amazing twist had George gone that route
Batfleck Forever Star Wars nerds are fuckin weird
Step 1: Eliminate Jar Jar
Step 2: More Ewan
Step 3: Leave RotS the same
Step 4: This is where the fun begins
Perfect
Add in Shaak Ti kill in RotS to make Grievous feel more terrifying.
Can’t jar jar is too important to the plot to remove
adapt JarJar, don't cut him.
@@jacktheflash8478 he's key to everything
Phantom Menace could still be a movie, but as a spin-off like Rogue One or Solo. Anakin's backstory as a slave, how he meets the jedis and Padme and becomes Obi-Wan's apprentice still makes for a great story.
That could work.
Imagine it as a tv show. Do justice to Anakin's slave life, Palatine and maul relationship/training + add more gravitas to the "sith reveal", see a few qui-gon and obi-wan adventures/bonding prior to their "negotiation" assignment. damn...
Yeah have the Clone Wars ep1 would be nice. Maybe have more sith vs jedi where the Emperor gains more power over time and doesn't have the need for more than 1 apprentice.
Phantom Menace has to be included in the trilogy though because it sets up how anakin turns to the dark side
@@samisami9114no it doesn’t there are no hints in the movie that show anakin turning to the darkside
The clone wars CG series actually handles Anakin's descent really well. He's basically a Maverick that keeps getting bad orders from detached bureaucrats that are willing to make sacrifices that he isn't. He goes rogue to save his clone troopers all the time. And he's usually validated in his decision. And even when he's wrong, he's a freaking Jedi, so he usually Gary Stu's his way out of it. He keeps *not* killing the HQ guys under these direct orders (because "muh valueable intel"), and seeing them escape and continue to drag out the war. It does well to play into his later complete lack of respect for the Imperial Moffs he technically answers to yet murders casually as Darth Vader. The war in general tends to give him constant motivation to be more brutal, more direct, more ruthless, & more impulsive... and wasting time with self-imposed restrictions tends to only drag out a conflict that costs thousands of lives every day.
Also: Duchess Satine. Obi Wan has a parallel arc to Anakin's forbidden love. But he chose his duty to the order instead of his passions, they *both* picked duty over their love. *Massive* waste that it doesn't come into play with Anakin's story. There's a tipping point to drive a wedge between former friends right there. Imagine Anakin confiding this huge secret to his closest friend, instead of that generic fortune cookie advice from Yoda. It wouldn't even feel unreasonable for Anakin to take Obi-Wan telling him he has to give up Padme as a personal betrayal.
OH! And give Padme something to do in episode 3 by keeping the plot that she was supposed to have originally. *Have her betray Anakin.* As he drifts deeper down the path to the dark side, he starts losing Padme without seeing it. She sees what he is becoming and it scares her. She's the democratic idealist that actually *wants* all those checks and balances on power that tie his hands while his soldiers die meaninglessly. When the dominoes start to fall on Palpatine's end-game, Anakin will have to be assassinated if the republic is to be saved, and Padme is the one he trusts enough for him to let his guard down. And *that's* when Anakin should choke her to death.
I like! Good thoughts!
And of course Ahsoka helps to understand Anakin loosing trust
This is honesty good stuff
The prequels definitely did have redeeming qualities. Ewan McGregor as Obi Wan was great, the lightsaber fights were really cool, and Mace Windu is my favorite Star Wars character of all time.
Totally! I love me some Mace Windu
@@CenterRow lmao mace windu is not even a real character, it's just usual samuel l jackson acting, but without shouting and swearing
you just like him because of the actor and the purple lightsaber
@@BekonyX Nah...You just a hater...Sam Jackson was a great addition to the Lore
@@BekonyX Do you like the sequels?
@@nivekv-halla4752 Why you booin' him? He's right!
(like, seriously though, he didn't really do much in those movies, he was just kinda there for the most part)
I agree that the descent to the Dark Side seems rushed, but I disagree about Episode I. The fact that Anakin spends years with his mother justifies that he misses her and fears losing her. This, justifies that he unleashes his rage against the Tuskens. This, in turn, justifies how much he fears that Padmé will die and that Anakin will do anything to prevent it from happening *again*. That aside, the fact that he is rejected by the council from training in Episode I can also explain that he doesn't really feel in phase with the Order. So while things could have been improved, and smoother, Episode I is not a waste in Lucas's story.
Good point!
I wish epi 1 anakin was older, his capabilities as a pilot wouldve been more believable. But i agree! That darth maul scene should not be scrapped and the pod racing is a must see scene for how good the cgi is!!!
Everybody is sympathetic to a character who doesn't know what is going on with his mother (and one who isn't allowed to care, as he should free himself from his earthly bindings), and understands that they would care for their mother, as the experience of having one is pretty much universal. There's not that much to justify if one can make clear that she is important to him. But if you want to have a clear justification, just do a prologue where young Anakin is taken away to the Jedi, where you can also show the relationship with his mom. Then fast forward to trained Jedi Anakin.
Episode 1 should have basically been a Luke aged Anakin (~18-19) who is a slave saved by Obi Wan (Qui Gon doesn't exist). This happens right at the beginning of the movie so we get a lot more time to develop their initial relationship. You can still have Darth Maul in this version but Anakin is the one who ultimately kills him which proves to Palpatine that Anakin is worthy of being his apprentice. Kind of ruins Maul's arc and that final battle between him and Obi Wan in the Rebels show but I think it works better thematically.
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George Lucas writes the story, someone else writes the script and directs. Fixed!
Essentially!
Been telling this for so long ...get Lucas away from the script ..let man envision and write story but his directing and script writing suck dick and maybe add co-director as well .. we all know he's been talking to his Hollywood friends to direct it but all of them says no
@@luxeternity yeah, i'd say his strengths are visuals and creative choices, now, to DEVELOP those visuals and creative choices......
The counter argument is A New Hope, which he wrote and directed himself. I recently rewatched it, and also read a slightly earlier draft of the screenplay. It’s a really effective, tight, efficient and simple screenplay, and it’s well written. I don’t know what went missing between the 70s and the 90s, but the prequels don’t seem like the work of the same man.
@@fromchomleystreet that's because back in The OT, he had HELP, for example, his wife at the time (who had help write great movies like Taxi Driver) helped him with the dialogue and script, not only her, MOST OF THE ACTORS made fun of him for his ass-level dialogue, and then he got less and less involved, but then the Prequels came around, and since George Lucas was seen as the Second Coming, they thought he knew it all, that any feedback would be pointless and might aswell let him do his "genius work" and.....we saw how it turned out
The reason Anakin is a kid in The Phantom Menace is because George felt it was important. I feel like George tries to do so much in the prequel trilogy that might as well have been a TV series instead. TPM also kind of feels like it could be a 2 episode TV pilot. Thankfully, we did get the 2003 and 2008 Clone Wars series so there is that.
Those series really add a ton.
I re-watched TPM today and had the same idea. The conflict in the movie feels like just a part of so much more, and Star Wars Clone Wars kinda fills that. But as a movie is not really bad, just not great as the original trilogy.
That's a big problem - way too much to do and they really wasted a lot of time with TPM and Clones so by the time you get to RoS it's a rush to get everything wrapped up.
Anakin killed children in Ep.2, a lot of his dark side tendencies did. I do think the transition could have been smoother, but I'm personally content that at least it was established that Anakin was capable.
Fair point
@@CenterRow yeah i was gonna say, you were just saying Anakin was a child-murdering incel, and then you say he goes evil in an afternoon?
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Could'veBeenBetterProductions There’s a difference between him killing children as collateral damage in a fit of uncontrollable rage (while still completely unjustified) and all of sudden deciding to kill younglings when it wasn’t established he hated the Jedi that much. He goes from having deep regret for causing Windu to die to the next scene of him ready to kill Jedi like it’s no problem.
@@playdischord1791 the whole point is he is doing all these acts out of pure selfish desperation to save Padme. Don’t see how it is difficult to comprehend
This is a great idea to start the story when he's an adult. I remember the weird discontent between the phantom menace and clone wars when suddenly he grew 10 years and nobody else aged at all (especially natalie Portman). Great video!
Thanks! It was definitely jarring.
Fallen Friend I don’t agree. It was only like 12 years in between (some nerd is gonna correct me) and you can see Obi-Wan also aged as well. I think it was important to see where anakin came fron and his relationship with his mother. It also became more clear how palptines plan started, I think that was executed really well. I love the prequels, despite their flaws. Their are Lucas vison and Star Wars should be just his imagination and creativeness, nothing else
@@RandomGuy-il8ec Yea sure buddy, it's not like George Lucas least liked star wars movie is "The Empire Stirkies Back" witch is one of the best space-opera movies period. Lucas have amazing ideas but at the same time, he is terrible director and writer witch should't get free hand to do what he wants. I recommend you this video :ua-cam.com/video/GFMyMxMYDNk/v-deo.html. If Star Wars would've been only "Lucas imagination and creativeness" then they would die before they started.
Trenos I’m speaking of story, themes and lore. I know he is a questionable director and the dialouge in the prequals AND the OT is awful.
@@RandomGuy-il8ec OT is awful? So what isn't awful in Star Wars?
6:57 I think that Padme being a senator is far more interesting than her being a Jedi. The prequels and Clone Wars have a focus on politics and I like that we have two characters in a forbidden relationship fighting the battle on both sides: political and on the frontlines. Their relationship brings forth the possibility for two very different viewpoints and I feel like if you made Padme a Jedi you'd be taking away a lot of what makes her character so interesting and important to the plot. After all, we have plenty of Jedi characters but how many of the senators do we really follow and have a vested interest in besides Palpatine? Just my opinion though.
Either works in my opinion! I'd have loved to see some House of Cards style political intrigue with Padme.
@@CenterRow me too
I not a fan of Padme being a Jedi, story needs main character that are non-force sensitives and diplomats.
Fair enough! The story works both ways.
+Blackpowderkun Honestly, as I was watching Attack of the Clones not too long ago, I was wondering why they didn't make Padme a soldier. At the end of the movie she's firing blasters and fighting for her life against the eight-eyed tiger thing, and I'm wondering "why didn't George just make her a soldier/fighter of some kind?"
Granted, it's a lot funnier to imagine this politician suddenly being able to fight like a soldier out of nowhere, like that scene in Spaceballs where Vespa is suddenly an expert with a blaster after her hair is shot.
@@TechnologicallyTechnical actually politicians are actually known to sometimes trained in combat in self defense.
@@blackpowderkun Was that stated in any of the prequel films?
I prefer it tbh
That's easy. Make an awful sequel trilogy that will make the prequel trilogy look like a masterpiece.
I hope they do that one day then
@@ctrlz7582 They did...
😂😂😂
@@moenavarro5865 It's sarcasm. I think
I knew there were going to be comments like this. Very creative.
when you said "with better acting" all i could hear was the "... i dont like sand" line
"It's course and rough, and it gets everywhere...but everything here is soft and smooth" *creepily strokes lady's bare back*
Center Row *creepily stares at Padmé*
Acting was good tho just the script kinda makes sense since anakin is a teen flirting for the first time and without the cringe lines we wouldn’t have all the memes
It does make sense that he was cringey so people can look at him as darth Vader and realise how different he was so in a way its good character development
'Who goes from nobel Jedi to child murder in the space of an Afternoon?" Me looking back at attack of the clones : "But the women and children toooooo" - Uh....ok
Fair enough, but the statement still applies to him going from noble jedi to suddenly slaughtering an entire village of people as well.
@@CenterRow No it doesn't, it's only sudden if your not paying attention to all 3 movies and their sub tones. Stop misleading people by oversimplifying it.
The problem is that it was never given narrative weight nor enough build up for it to be believable. If you're going to make Anakin slaughter an entire village over his mother then you need to...
1. Give ample amount of well-written, nuanced moments expressing psychological conflict in Anakin where he constantly feels guilt about leaving his mother and thinks about her often. Make it central to Anakin's character throughout the entire film. So the audience truly feels the strong emotional attachment he still has with his mother at this point. Make it a weakness that distracts him during pivotal moments. You can tie that in with his developing feelings for Padme as well.
2. Give at least a few major story moments where Anakin is faced with the ethical dilemma of taking life and/or using violence and struggles to control an impulsive anger. Yes, he's shown to be impulsive, but Lucas' writing makes him into a short-sighted idiot instead of exploring this as a legitimate, anchoring character flaw.
3. Make his slaughtering of the village a huge character turn for Anakin that weighs on him through the rest of the film and have the psychological effects carry into the next film; instead of it being forgotten after the next couple of scenes. This is the biggest point. Going on a murder rampage is no small thing. They needed this to be primary focus in the story of Anakin Skywalker that changes him in significant ways moving forward. But these things are never given focus or explored in any meaningful way.
Gosh Star Wars fans are toxic 😂. The prequels are not perfect (there’s a reason they got hate) This is a flaw in them. It took a clone wars tv show to make anakins hatred of the Jedi make sense. Like the sequel trilogy you shouldn’t need a book or spin off to understand it.
If Anakin killing the women and the children to. Was his start down the dark path forever will it dominate . But film wise it didn’t . Anakin never felt like he was consumed by the dark side till he bent the knee.
Him killing children doesn’t make sense dark side way either (without the clone wars) as he still was conflicted , he did not have sith eyes yet and still cared for obi wan and Padme which sith really cant. So him killing children would be a no go. The ROTS novel does it better by showing anakins power hungry nature and him angry that the Jedi won’t grant him the rank because he wants access to the books to save Padme .
isiman100 such a big Star Wars fan you are saying Star Wars is just silly science fiction when to us it’s more then that... do us a favor and never talk for us again
I like the idea of Padme being a Jedi, made me think of Padme going dark side with anakin, the Jedi kill her and he goes full darth
Ooo, interesting.
Nah, stfu
@@prewprew3959 Hold on guys, cant have any neat new ideas! The thought police are here to squash this party!
Techy2112 it’s like modern day fascism!
@@prewprew3959 child
Or... what if they did this:
Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
The Clone Wars
Revenge of the Sith
I believe the prequels would’ve heavily benefited from having four movies
That could work!
Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones are mostly pointless. Attack of the Clones and Phantom Menace should be mashed into the same film
BizarreDiffo
That’s a huge request
@@thebrutusmars Most of Phantom Menace could just been in the opening crawl
BizarreDiffo not really. It does serve a purpose. One of the comments here makes a good point about it
"Who goes from heroic Jedi to child murderer in an afternoon?"
"I killed them - I killed them all, Padme - not just the men, but the women and children too!"
One of the things people miss with the prequels is that Anakin's 'fall to the dark side' occurs in Episode 2. They're Sand People, emphasis on people. Killing them is bad but maybe justifiable given the kidnapping. Killing all of them indiscriminately is not. Padme doesn't care about them, only about how killing them is hurting Anakin's feelings. (The joke is that she's a shitty person as well, which is why they fall in love.)
The optimistic take is that Anakin is fairly well adjusted in The Phantom Menace and being taken from his mother and raised by a cult for ten years breaks his brain, which is why he's 'an incel with anger issues', as you put it. The 'twist' in Attack of the Clones is that the Jedi fall to the Dark Side when they elect to fight a war for the Republic. Yoda spends the whole movie talking about how he's blinded by the Dark Side and then ends it by backflipping around committing war crimes with an army of slaves. "War does not make one great", indeed!
The pessimistic take is that Anakin was never a 'chosen one' and the Jedi fell from before The Phantom Menace even began. They're already fighting the Republic's war when they go to Naboo on behalf of the Chancellor for "negotiations with a lightsaber". They ignore slavery on Tattooine because they consider their only purpose to serve the Senate. The actions of the good guys on Naboo are laudable, but they've already fallen into Palpatine's trap by that point by appointing him Supreme Chancellor. He throws himself a party at the end of the film because he's won. He's The Phantom Menace.
Interesting take!
So do you think the prequels are good movies? Because that's pretty good
@@metawarp7446 A great concept doesn't make up for the lackluster dialogue, the over-use of CGI, the awful dramaturgy, the stale acting etc.
@@deponensvogel7261 So in your opinion fixing those et cetera would be enough to "fix" the prequels, aka make them very good, maybe even great? That could very much be true.
One smaller change would maybe be more clearly showing that the jedi really have made huge a mistake when they agreed to command the clones (etc.) and that they really have fallen in their ways... Because, like you said, people tend to miss it.
Also like Center Row said, "show the corruption" and maybe tell about the jedi in their prime, so we can compare the situations...
George exploited CGI in order to fulfil his Story of Star Wars, perhaps some more practical effects in certain areas but I can see where George was coming from. Great Storyteller but can't execute it well.
Having Holtst's mars in the background making the music sound like Star Wars and avoiding copyright, big brain move my man
Thanks! Glad someone noticed.
That throwback clone wars show footage has so much nostalgia
While I was editing I often just wound up watching large stretches of it. It's so good.
Good, it’s good, I love it
Thanks!
I grew up on the prequels and adore them. My nostalgia is so deep, I can’t turn on them, but this is a wonderful video with solid points. I know what Lucas was trying to shoot for with Anakin being a kid when we meet them, but it would have been great to just enter the universe with a teenage or early-twenties Anakin and have the romance and overall plot work better.
Exactly! Thanks for watching!
I'd just take Phantom Menace & Attack Of The Clones and replace it with volume 1 & 2 of the 2003 clone wars series. While keeping revenge of the sith.
That works!
@@CenterRow thanks man, you're video was awesome!
Thanks!
Bro Attack Of The Clones is important tho
@@ayaankhan-eh1xy yea you right bro, I made that comment like 3 years ago. Over the years I’ve grown to enjoy all of the prequels.
I think the element of Jedi being unable to marry to keep it so Anakin can't go to the Jedi with his dreams
It definitely has its merits.
i like your ideas. I don't hate the prequel trilogy, in fact I kinda like them. the story behind them and the idea, as you said, are good and compelling.
I've taken to seeing the The Clones Wars as the true mid part of the prequels. Phantom Menace feels more like a prologue to me and overall the prequels would've been better off if the trilogy started with Attack of the Clones (and better dialogue).
And I say this as someone who actually enjoys the sequels, but can totally see how the prequels could've been improved and lived up to their potential more.
Thanks! And my thoughts exactly!
Me: *reads title*
“But how can you fix perfection?”
better script? Thats really all it needs, then it’s perfect.
Ortherner but then we wouldn’t have all those memes :((
Jake Mallea a small price to pay for salvation
To me the prequels are basically the extended story of Palpatine becoming the most powerful being in the universe. The Skywalker/Vader plot in it seems just like a side-kick.
That's a good way to put it.
The prequels were Shakespeare, the originals were Kurosawa and WWII films, the sequels were trying to copy the originals while adding in some "Last Samurai" stuff and forgetting about Kurosawa.
Bruh the point of it is to show anakin's turn to the dark side not palpatine's rise
Turtle 00 Palpatine’s rise parallels Hitler and Cesar from Shakespeare’s Cesar. This it’s a more interesting story then the slightly forced tragic love story of Anakin and Padme
@@KRYMauL It's a mix of both but palpatine's rise only happens with help from anakin which is why the story is more focused on anakin than palpatine
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I like it, and I like that you addressed something beyond the cliched (but still true) bad writing and bad acting.
Thanks!
I love how much these 'fix the prequels' videos vary between each other, it's always really interesting to see
It's fun to see all the different speculations. I considered not doing this video because of Belated Media's videos on the subject but then decided we had different enough takes.
Phantom Menace is not "unnecessary". Just listen what Dave Filoni had to say in 'Disney Gallery: The Mandalorian'. I think it's episode 3
we don't need to start with them being married, they could still be in a deepening relationship, while Anakin feels the pull to save his mother. the marriage would be a Clone Wars thing.
edit: Padmé should still have been a queen, but of Alderaan instead of Naboo.
That works!
The Alderaan part doesn't work because Darth Vader was on the Death Star when Tarkin gave the order to destroy Alderaan in Ep.IV. Do you really think he would've just stood there and not cared if that was the planet his beloved wife was from? It would have been extremely painful
@@theMad_Artist DV had so many issues hurting him that it could be another form of torture he forced himself into. let's not forget that his castle overlooks the banks on which Obi-Wan "betrayed" him; everytime he went to Mustafar he relived that fight & his burning.
Palpatine was also from Naboo, which would make the Empire look even more ruthless.
Thank you, you fixed these movies for me. Now, I'm just waiting for the chosen one who will take on the mouse and remake them.
Thanks! And me too.
And this is why I love the Clone Wars series.
More episodes pass, and the dark side of Anakin shows more.
I feel like without it the prequels would be too simple.
Agreed.
The Prequels were movies that weren't all bad, but suffered from several issues.
George Lucas tried to listen to fans and fix his ideas from one movie in the other of a very rushed way.
While Revenge of The Sith is a good movie, and it's literally everything of what the prequels should have been before, it suffers with trying desperately to fix things from Attack of The Clones and The Phantom Menace.
Revenge of The Sith tries to redeem so many things like Anakin's writing that the movie feels rushed and abrupt. Even though it's good, some things feel unbelievable because they don't really run smoothly like they should.
Also, I liked your idea for the Prequel Movies, I always talked with my friends about how the prequel trilogy should have changed one of the movies for Clone Wars.
Thanks!
The start of the clone wars should have been the ending of the first one and then, full clone wars on the second.
I think you're exactly right. Anakin didn't need to be the chosen one he just needed to be a pilot, a jedi, and later a father and that is it. I had the idea, similar to yours, where his fall is subtle at first. For example they are questioning a suspect and because they need information quickly Anikin uses a dark side power. Then he just starts to find it easier to make that the beginning and not a last resort.
Exactly!
I actually liked the aspect of anakin being the chosen one when seeing the full picture. Anakin was being treated as someone who will destroy the sith and the council was making sure that he was going down the right path which inadvertently made him into a sith. Then luke was born and it is assumed that Luke is the one who was the chosen one only for it to turn out that it was was true all along with Anakin killing Vader and Palpatine, redeeming himself and bringing his arc to a closure. (Medichlorians are still shit)
@@sleepy3362 The chosen one never made sense. Anakin does bring balance by the end of episode III we have two Sith and two jedi. Obviously that wasn't what balance meant but since we have only heard of the light and dark there was no way to know what it meant. It is 20 years later. I still don't know.
The idea of Padme being a jedi is pretty neat and could be an effective way of showing her and Anakin's forbidden love. Also having Anakin's mindset change during ep 2, the clone wars, and into revenge of the Sith would be a long but great way to illustrate his turn to the dark side. Personally I thought the clone wars did a good job showing Anakin's disillusionment with the jedi, but having palpatine in his ear and sending him on missions that would destroy Anakin's convictions would be cool as hell.
In closing, I do enjoy the prequels as they are ( though ep 2 clearly could use some of your ideas for sure), but I really enjoy your take on the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker , would have love to see those ideas come to fruition
Thanks! The prequels are so much better with The Clone Wars shows to give it context.
Jesus this Video is so good. I literally could see the second movie in front of my eyes happening and it would be the most beautiful prequel...I came here and I was not ready for this. Thank you
Wow, kind words, thank you!
I love the Prequels. George Lucas is at hear an experimental filmmaker, and incredibly gutsy. No one but George would spend so much of their own money on films that take so much risks (shooting digitally, the digital backlot, which George Lucas' way of making the prequels completely defined how movies are made these days. Remember, he was basically the first one to go all out on it). I think TPM had 1975 effects shots in it. Unheard of at that time, and for years after that, but now it's totally common. I, for one, will forever be grateful that George directed the prequels himsels, and we actually got to see his vision on the screen.
I like the prequels as is but I agree that it could’ve been much, much better.
But you have to remember that the force is strong and can influence decisions. Mace Windu’s will is powerful so he can walk the fine line between light and dark sometimes, but someone like Anakin who has been dealt a bad hand at life (born into slavery, has to witness his mother being beaten, little to no social contact with people like Padme and Qui-Gon) can be easily swayed by the dark side, especially when dark emotions come into play. This is seen when he finds his mother beaten to death by the Tuskans. However you’re right, him choking padme to “death” should’ve went another way.
Let’s keep Qui-Gon though I really adore that guy.
I agree, Qui-Gon needs to stick around. Liam Neeson is amazing.
Really like it. Let's just weave qui-gon and maul in there somehow.
Clone wars has alot of maul
Your original film idea reminds me of Quinlan in the book “Dark Disciple” - love it!
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I say we do what Lucas did when he couldn't make Flash Gordon. Change some names and tropes, steal from better sources, and make the version we'd rather see! You write, I'll direct - we'll call it "FAR-LORES"!
If parody doesn't cover us we'll just cite all the same influences Lucas drew from (Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, John Carter of Mars, Dune, Lord of the Rings, Valerian & Laureline, Forbidden Planet, Hidden Fortress, Lost in Space and Star Trek wrapped in a Joseph Campbell myth template).
Let's do it!
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I'm not even joking, I've been thinking for awhile that this needs to happen. Stick it to Disney and take the fan's franchise to Universal!
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@@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat Honestly that'd be pretty great!
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TBH this point in star wars history is just to dense for even a trilogy.
It's pretty dang dense.
Armani Webb Ik it May seem weird but i think they should’ve done 4 movies for the prequels with one in between attack of the clones and ROTS but kept the phantom menace
@@ryanharkins130 naw bro it makes perfect sense. That era of star wars is extremely dense, to much even for a trilogy.
+Armani Webb I thought the exact opposite, Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones felt really pointless in regards to Anakin's story. If you skip Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones and skip right to Revenge of the Sith, you're not missing much.
@@TechnologicallyTechnical it's not a complete story though bro without it.
'The Phantom Menace' is an important film for the Prequel Trilogy but it could be just a set of retrospectives or flashbacks throughout the trilogy or merged with 'Attack of the Clones' into 1 film.
Anakin's relationship with his mother Shmi is important to his fall. Sheev Palpatine becoming the Supreme Chancellor. The Chosen One prophecy.
If I made the Prequels I would merge TPM & AOTC into one film then the original ROTS script was 4 hours long so just split into 2 parts.
1 The Clone Wars
2 Revenge of the Sith
3 Rise of the Empire
Any video that talks about the Star Wars prequels: *exists*
Me: *front flips like Dooku in ROTS* I've been looking forward to this.
I really like your ideas for fixing prequels, however my main gripe with it is that it could potentialy invalidate quite a large part of the Clone Wars, which is favourite show and just an important part of my childhood. And also Darth Maul would be gone.
Nah, I'd definitely keep the shows around, the middle movie would only focus on a small part of The Clone Wars.
And I also love Maul. Just put him in Attack of the Clones.
Center Row where would Maul be though? Why would he be there too? Because you absolutely still need Dooku there to facilitate the clone wars but Dooku can't be there without Maul no longer being Palpatine's apprentice
@@thethunderdownunder9888 Maul can still be the lost apprentice like he is in the clone wars tv show. It would be interesting if maul being around would make count Dooku feel that maul is a threat to his power or if he sees it as a advantage, as count Dooku often talked about overpowering Palpatine hence ventress and savage oppress and of course his speech to obi wan about destroying the sith.
Phantom Menace was pointless in the prequels. I liked it as it had two of the better characters in the series: Qui'gon and Darth Maul. But it could have just been a stand alone movie. The Pod Racing scene, useless Anakin running around, and Jar Jar felt like a lot of wasted screen time.
The dark side is supposed to be seductive. That should have been how he falls. He comes to rely upon it, need it, depend upon it. Which is why Vader's "You don't know the power of the dark side" is more of an addict not willing to give up his drug. The dark side is supposed to be not only destructive to the balance of the force and those around them, but destructive to the wielder of the force. It's not just some cool thing that lets you shoot lightning or choke people, it comes at a cost. And it's addictive properties should be sufficient enough for that person to want it more and more.
Padme shouldn't have died in the prequel trilogy. She should have betrayed him, which is why he never knew about the children. Love turns to hate, which if often the case in relationships that go sour. Also Leia says she remembers her mother... So there is that. It would explain why she was always sad, she betrayed Anakin who had turned to the dark side. Instead of accidently bringing Obi'wan to confront him, she sets Anakin up. He is gone in her eyes, lost. So while she loved him, his darkness was beyond doubt.
Ooo, I like that last bit!
Episode 1 is very important, because of Qui-Gon. The Duel of the fates is the most important duel of Star Wars. It's the fate of Anakin. If Qui-Gon survives, Anakin gets the master and father figure he needed and likely never turns. Obi-Wan was not ready, not a father figure, and he was too much "by the book" which Anakin wasn't.
marcksss exactly what I thought when he removed the phantom menace, the entire Star Wars saga depends on that fight
That was so creative man! i love it!
Thanks!
prequels had the best lightsaber fights
Agreed
This is the fact that even those who hated the prequels' guts can agree on.
@Big Boi and OT duels
@Big Boi even though I think the prequels had better lightsaber fights than the first 2 sequels I'd argue that Rise of Skywalker has the best fights in the series.
concavenator corcovatus how did the rise of skywalker have the best fights?
I would say Padme is a Jedi and she’s killed by a clone in order 66, but Palpatine convinces Anakin that the Jedi killed her, leading him down a further path and fear and hatred.
That works!
I like it! Really good work.
Thanks!
This is brilliant. Especially the revenge of the sith part, absolutely genius.
Thanks!
Maybe keep the child and prophecy thing in the phantom menace and then just have a time skip in there. going from child Anakin to teen Anakin where the over arching villain is still darth maul and how obi wan and Anakin have to fight him throughout the years and finally at the end kill him giving teen Anakin a taste of the dark side with revenge and seeing obi wan give into revenge a bit as well. Both of them obi wan and Anakin loved qui gon so they both wanted revenge. It shows more development between obi wan and Anakin and shows how obi wan kinda fails in his teachings. then yes with the second movie the first half should be the beginning of the clone wars and the second half should be the war itself showing the atrocities of the confederacy and how Anakin has to stoop lower and lower and become like the enemy to save innocents. Have the padme love plot in there as well ofcourse and I love your idea about padme being a jedi and she should be introduced in the second movie as a jedi knight going on missions with Anakin and how he starts to fall in love with her. overall I think these movies could be improved a lot yes...
Ooo, I really like that! Good thinking!
Whoa this is really good
KRYMauL hmm maybe but I still like darth maul and I think for the first film he’s fine as a antagonist. The thing is he just needed more screen time and we never got that cause the film was so caught up in the finding child anakin and the pod racing and then politics. I think a lot of that can be remedied if Palme is introduced in the second film and also if the political stuff is toned down and get rid of the shitty pod racing scenes.
Finding anakin and starting his training shouldn’t take an whole film to do maybe les then half and then the second half is him and obi wan 6 ish years later or more years going on missions and dearth mail is looming over them and being an obstacle in their path.
The phantom menace should have been obi wan and anakin really all that other political stuff should be in the background.
Center Row thanks!
lol idk about introducing Ashoka, I think that's best left in the tv series. I wasn't a huge fan of that relationship honestly. it was okay. As far as the love thing, as center row said make padme a jedi and that solves a lot cause it makes things very interesting and gives a much better reason as to why they are together and lets both participate in the action of the movies. so the audience isn't bored watching their weird love attempts on a boring planet like naboo. Tho yes I think turning the third into more of the clone wars is a good idea we needed to see more of the war and how it affects Anakin and company. The sequals should never have been made they are trash!!I wanna see a revan movie set in the Mandalorian wars.
The prequels are already great.
if star wars was your only exposure to movies, sure
Said by nobody in 2005..
If the prequels are already considered great by you, I would like to know how you would describe actual great movies.
Lmfao best joke I ever heard
supa koen the Prequels and Originals are both great.
I think that Anakin's quick turn to the dark side makes sense though when you think about how the jedi council was screwing him over, and the tough situation he was put in. It is obvious that the council did not trust him, did not approve of him, feared him, etc. and it really damaged Anakin's view on the jedi almost during the entire course of his downfall through the trilogy. When he allies with Palpatine and learns that he could save Padme, this is where his tough, almost impossible decision begins to form. He fears losing his wife just like his mother, but fails to see why the dark side is bad because of how the jedi council treated the concept. Instead of teaching Anakin why love and attachment was forbidden, and what the dark side really was, they hid the information from him and decided to not even delve into learning it. Because of this, Palpatine's entrusted power with the dark side only seems like the good thing to do because of how the jedi council failed him.
Now when he's faced to either let Mace kill Palpatine or kill Mace to have the ability to save Padme, the hard decision comes full circle. Mace killing Palpatine without trial completely contradicts the code that was enforced into Anakin, and seeing a jedi master go against it abolished all that Anakin trusted in the jedi. If he let Mace kill Palpatine, he would lose so much, but he also knew that killing Mace would be a bad decision; he was torn between two already consequential paths.
When he kills Mace, you can instantly see the regret in his eyes and actions, but he knows it's too late. The only person he had after that was Palpatine, he was the only person he really trusted after seeing the bullshit the jedi demonstrated to him. His only choice was to heed to his master's bidding, as there as no turning back. That's why Anakin is seen crying on Mustafar looking into the sun after killing the separatist leaders; he hates what he has done and how the jedi screwed him over. I even think the sun he is looking at in that scene is symbolism for him looking back on his past life that was much brighter. When he talks to Obi-Wan before fighting he's so angry because the dark side was twisting his mind out of control because of the bullshit situation he was put right into. Yeah it's a little messy and not straight forward, but I think that's what Lucas was trying to portray as why his downfall was so quick and chaotic.
these are amazing ideas man really amazing you put great effert to it
Thank you!
Imagine Padme being a Jedi and having Anakin face her down in a lightsaber battle. Her being a Jedi would make her have stronger opinions about Anakin's accusations of "the lies of the Jedi". She would defend the Jedi, shooting down his arguments. Then we see him loose it attacking her with her barely being able to keep him off until he delivers a blow that wounds her but doesn't kill her immediately. Obviously they would have to build up more tension between them and it would be more difficult to weave in to the story leading up but the emotional payoff would be ughhh.
Oooooh that'd be amazing.
3 seconds in: now we need one about the sequel trilogy 😂
Working on it now! Looking to be my longest video ever.
@@CenterRow subtle shade i sense in you mmmmm
Amazing. Just amazing. This is spot on that’s all I can say.
Thank you!
Whatever it is, it should be built around the clone wars show because that did an amazing job showing Anakins decent into darkness
Episode 1: The False Apprentice
Episode 2: Shroud Of The Darkside
Episode 3: Order of the Jedi
It was said Disney would destroy and make classics not leave the franchise in darkness
Haha nice!
I was thinking about how one would fix the prequels, and I came to some of the same conclusions, however I would still keep the Phantom Menace, but I'd move a lot of the plot from Attack of the Clones up to the first movie, as was suggested here. Overall I think you could stay true to the general plot of Phantom, but place more emphasis on Palpatine, and have his whole campaign be making a clone army, that seems like a popular campaign promise, that way Attack of the Clones is actually about the Clone Wars, instead of spending half the movie discovering a secret clone army, then jumping into using it to attack Geonosis without a question about if it's moral to use a clone army built in secret that they didn't even know about a few hours before.
I do agree that Anakin's turn in Ep III was far too fast, and we needed time to build that relationship, at the very least from the second movie on Palpatine should have been doing stuff to turn Anakin, but we could have started that relationship in the first movie too.
One of the best things about the clone wars tv show is how it handles Anakin. Since it was a long term show it was able to slowly show him making moral compromises and becoming less and less Jedi like. It was also able to show him and Obi Wan’s relationship, and how it went from a close relationship between a master and apprentice to Anakin distrusting Obi Wan and the Jedi much like how he acts in revenge of the Sith. Watching clone wars makes everything that happens in that movie much more meaningful.
Definitely agree, it improves the prequels immensely
I would love for you to do a film fix on the sequel trilogy
Thinking about it!
@Joseph Gabriele 😂😂
Less Political, less comedic characters more badass fighting and focusing on jedi vs sith
Yes! That!
@@Redicon388 I'd have liked the politics more if they had added some GoT style political intrique in there as opposed to just a bunch of meetings.
The Politics were crucial to explaining Palpatine's rise to power. It helped viewers just see how big and diverse the Galaxy is and how it's so unique. Key events and situations are explained through them.
I always explained away the "I remember my mother" line as Leia having force visions from the past but not her own memories, more like Obi-Wan and Anakin projecting their emotions onto her conscious
Just a small note - Leia remembering her mother. Remember that when Luke asks, Leia doesn't know about their siblinghood. She thinks that Bail Organas wife was her real mother. Who, it seems, was sad and died fairly early on. It is her Leia is speaking about, since she has no reason to doubt that she was her real mother until Luke reveals that she is a Skywalker.
Good point!
I honestly don’t see it. I really don’t like the argument that Ten Phantom Menace isn’t an essential movie. Without it we’d be like “Why the fuck are we starting in the middle of this story? Where did Anakin come from? What’s his deal?”
Not to mention that Darth Maul and Qui Gon Jinn are both great characters, and his and Obi-Wan’s interactions are great. I wouldn’t trade this trilogy for anything. Personaly it’s got LOADS of problems, but to me, the whole story idea is too messy and flawed to get better, and fixing it only makes it more complicated.
I disagree that Anakin’s fall to the dark side was rushed. Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith built up to it quite well.
Mom dies even through no attempts were made to free her from slavery, bad dream, slaughters younglings. Too quick.
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I didn’t want to have to do this but:
1. Jedi wouldn’t let him see his mom who then died
2. Jedi made him hide his marriage
3. Had visions of Parme dying, but Yoda told him to just forget about them
4. Jedi wouldn’t give him the rank of master despite his skill as a Jedi
5. Jedi wanted him to spy on the only man he trusted, Chancellor Palpatine.
6. Palpatine told him that the dark side was the only way to save Padme, who was the only person that he loved once his mother died.
7. Jedi had become warriors, not peacekeepers, they killed for there own ideals
8. At the beginning of ROTS, Palpatine tells Anakin that Dooku was too dangerous to be kept alive. Anakin kills Dooku despite thinking that only a Sith would do that. Then, Mace tells Anakin that Palpatine is too dangerous. In this moment Anakin realizes that the Jedi and Sith are the same.
9. Anakin killing younglings and choking Padme came from the influence of the Dark Side.
@@sandwich434 I saw the movies. Despite those events it still seemed rushed. It should take more than that to kill a room full of kids. It also made his redemption in Jedi way more problematic.
I’ve never thought about Padme being a Jedi, but I love that idea
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I actually don’t like this, the phantom menace was a good concept just not excerpted to well, and btw the prequels hinted Anakin’s darkness although out.
There needs to be a scene in the second movie, where Obi-Wan is training Anakin. They're engaged in a duel with training-sabers, and are working off of each other's strengths (predicting moves, etc.) to train in their respective Force skills. Additionally, there'd be sass-banter to improve their relationship as brothers from different mothers.
This would've given the Mustafar fight that much more weight.
By the way this 3 movies you fixed, would be god damn awesome!
In my opinion, the thing that bugged me the most in the Prequels is that the motivation for Anakin’s turn to the Dark Side is kinda unrelatable
Yeah, but if you have to choose between two broken and misguided factions and one gives you the power to save your wife..
There are definitely relatable themes of a self fulfilling prophecy or self sabotage that they could have leaned more on but they certainly missed the mark.
Giffy Yeah. It could’ve been handled so much better, especially with Anakin’s defence of Palpatine against Mace, only to storm the Jedi Temple and butcher the younglings not twenty minutes later. I still have the headcanon that some of the chips removed from the clones in Clone Wars could’ve been involved in an episode where Anakin’s mysteriously disappears, has no memory of the event and somehow has the chips installed into his head. It’s a little far out, but it might make a little more sense than his rapid acceptance of the dark side..
You: The prequels could be amazing!
Nazis: BUT THEY ARE MASTERPIECES!
I love this idea!
Thanks!
This is a genuinely good idea, I would have loved this. Earned a sub from me my dude.
Thanks!
I think they should’ve really shown Anakin’s fall as something that could’ve happened to anyone under the manipulation of Palpatine. The way they actually showed it made Anakin impossible to empathise with.
Exactly!
make JarJar the hand of Sidious throughout the PT
Yes! Of course!
He could be Darth Sidious Master, instead of Plagueis
Vorname Nachname or he could be plaigeis
resurrected
I’d love to see your trilogy! Really well thought out
Thanks!
I think you make really good videos, so I subbed a while ago. It's a real shame you don't have many subscribers because you definitely deserve it.
Thank you! I really appreciate that! If you want to help, I've found sharing my videos on Reddit helps a ton.
@@CenterRow Great, will do.
Also, thanks for replying. I've found a lot of youtubers don't read their comments and that causes them to be really out of touch with their audience.
Of course! I find it hard to keep up with the comments of videos that go big but I try to respond to most people as best I can!
@@CenterRow :)
"how to fix the prequels?" By making Darth Plagueis, Clone Wars multimedia project, Labyrinth of Evil, and so on canon again.
Yes
Why not do one on the Disney trilogy?
As I said in the video, I hadn't seen Rise of Skywalker yet. Now I'm brainstorming on a sequel trilogy video.
Center Row, okay, I admit I’m just upset of all the hate the prequels have gotten when the Disney trilogy gets a pass. My apologies. Thank you.
Would be a lot of work
@@Flying_Spaghetti_Monster You have no idea, I have been brainstorming all week on how to fix Rise of Skywalker, it kept me up last night, this whole thing is a very tough nut to crack.
As a Star Wars fan, it's important to remember the lore, the dark side gets you suddenly, it consumes you very fast. There is no spiral downward to it. One bad choice, one feeling is enough to make you fall and there is almost no way for you to come back from it. That's why you shouldn't teach an adult or an older kid, they are already form in their emotional weaknesses. So no, as much as I love Walter White, a gradual descent would not have worked for the Character. Especially since he had already made enough bad choices before to get him there anyway (episode 2 with his mom, and feeling for Padme)
For the rest however, I absolutely agree, especially regarding on how poor the writing was in the first place!
I still like how you portrayed the story, very interesting choices!
Hmmm, a fair point! And thanks!
I like your thoughts on this, great video
Thank you!
Nah I'm good, if you scrapped the phantom menace where would i have gotten my daily fix of pod racing memes
Oh good point...throw some podracing into Attack of the Clones!
I personally think the prequels don't need to be changed...Sequels need to be tho
I made a video about that too!
I love the use of Mars: Bringer of War by Gustav Holst as the background music. It sounds very Star Wars-y (because John Williams took heavy inspiration for The Empire's music from the Planets and Mars). I only noticed because it's my favorite suite.
Thanks! Happy someone noticed. Might use Mercury for the sequel trilogy.
I like it. An alternate option would be to go the route of "The Departed" or "Donnie Brasco" in the 2nd movie where Anakin is working undercover to infiltrate Palpatine's organization and eliminate his power structure with the Jedi's approval, but as he gets deeper he has to do more illegal things and there becomes a mutual mistrust... the Jedi fear that he's been "turned" and Anakin grows to resent the Jedi for not acting on his recommendations and pulling him out. It would be a different tone, but intriguing.
Oh wow, I really like that!
@@CenterRow Thanks! With the success of "Joker," I wonder if we are going to start seeing more movies adopt their story from other successful films. Nolan has credited "Heat" with influencing a lot of "The Dark Knight" and it's evident when you rewatch the film. That might be the way to deliver compelling storytelling without Disney worrying that their bank account balance won't be large enough! :)