2022 BMW C 400 GT - A Scooter That Does Everything
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
- They are using the Suzuki Burgman 400 as the benchmark and have upped the ante in this "big scooter" segment.
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Video Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:30 Why a Scooter
1:12 City
5:33 Power - Autobahn
8:36 Chassis - Country Roads
10:59 Ergonomics - Storage Controls Display
13:25 Verdict - Авто та транспорт
I keep on telling everyone, 75% of motorcyclists should just stick to maxi-scooters: 80-90% fun of a moto; without the hassle of having to cary a helmet everywhere while walking in uncomfortable boots.
Yea, so true.
You have a Bmw R 1200 RT ? Try to make a trip ! Halmets ? No problem everyware ..... with all comfort. Bwm C400GT is pure Bmw ! Top comfort. No way !
In Australia (where I live) all motorcyclists regardless of the capacity or configuration ie scooter or bike 2 wheels or three wheels (front or back) have to wear helmets. I have a scooter (a Suzuki Burgman 650 Executive) and a Can Am Spyder. Both are fun to ride but in different ways. The helmet is not an issue.
@@rogersmith5371 he was talking about being able to store the helmet on the bike without carrying it arround
@@blikje_in_de_water Thanks for explaining that. Storing the helmet on the bike is essential. On the Burgman it can go under the seat or in the top box. On the Spyder it can go in the "frunk" or hang off a hook under the locked seat. No need to carry it unless you want to.
MORE SCOOTER REVIEWS PLEASE!!!
I have Had mine for two weeks. I love it. its so agile and actually pretty quick. and For commutes to work I wont need to go over 80mph so 90mph top speed is cool. its a comfortable and fun ride from 0 to 90mph
I bought this bike 2 weeks ago after having 3 GS. I need new knees and arthritis is setting in so the GS was too big and heavy for me. The C 400 GT is fantastic I’m really enjoying it plus I’m getting 98mpg
Did you consider the Japanese rivals or are you a bmw diehard?
You must live in one of those places where everything is downhill including the return trip.
Had one of these while my GS was being serviced, absolute hoot, really impressed. The Flex-case is a thoughtful idea. I was amazed with its Motorway capability.
Very nice review . Thank you Scott!
I recently purchased this bike and all I can say is that I love it. It’s a very versatile machine and super comfortable.
Great review. Bought a new one of these. Just put big windshield on and it makes for easy cruising for both rider and pillon
Thanks for this great review. BTW you always remind me of Dirk Benedict of the A-Team! 😊
Nice Ride...I'm going to keep my Suzuki Burgman 400
I would also add the Piaggio Beverly 400 to your list next time. Thanks!
Gosh if it had a cruise control I’d buy one. An adjustable windshield would be icing on the cake.
Great review of a great scooter, I had the chance to ride the C650 GT version a few months ago, it was very fast and a fun scooter to ride, they have discontinued the 650 in the USA. Keep up the great videos!
I’ve seen a few C650 GT on cycle trader. Here in the states.
Wonderful review! Subscribed
Good review thanks
This was the video that convinced me to buy one.
Wow, thank you, I hope you are happy with it?
NTP, great review on the BMW. As a full fledge Baby Boomer the scooter is looking good as a way to ride for me. Thanks for sharing.
As usual, everytime I'm getting my eyes on a new bike, I start by watching your videos, mate. Great content, you cover all the points I want to know about.
2 thumbs up for you.
I now ride a Harley Davidson 2019 Fatabob 114 ci, fully modified for long distance touring. I also ride a BMW 2022 R18 Classic (the one with windshield and saddlebags from factory).
I love these 2 but I am selling the R18 because I want a scooter, and I betting on the C400 X, instead of the GT (there isn't any available where I live).
Cheers!!!
Very cool bike
Great Video, keep up the good work. What summer rider blue jeans are you wearing?
Awesome.
Hi there, I bought the Sister Model c 400 X at Becker-Tiemann, I will get it soon. This BMW Scooters are really amazing to ride. I also ordered the expandable Topcase Shad SH 58 x for it, you can vary it between 46 and 58 Liters.
Nice looking scooter
Always love scooter reviews.
great review. I own this scooter in the C400X version for 1 year. it is for me a very good scooter under the category of maxi scooters. Its strengths in my opinion: its engine allowing you to calmly envisage journeys even of several hundred kilometres, punchy engine on its torque even in the mountains, very correct and stable handling with good ground clearance, the TFT and the connectivity that I don't use on my bike from the same manufacturer but that I use a lot on the C400. consumption is very reasonable. Original protection is zero and I added a high windscreen. The big negative points, the very insufficient trunk volume and the very difficult decoupling (crutch 😡) and the behavior affected by the transport of a passenger. After trying to keep this scooter as the only vehicle, I finally took a motorcycle, the pleasure not being there. it is an excellent (expensive) option as a second vehicle
What did you notice when taking a passenger. Perhaps you needed to simply adjust the rear suspension preload?
@@renes9966 I admit that I never touched the suspension settings because I did little duet. obviously the scooter is less punchy at 2 but especially as it loses liveliness it is less manageable at low speed it is less easy to take because the torque is stifled. on the other hand, once launched at 50/60 km/h, it retains its good stability
@@furiouspat3956 thanks for your thoughts - I will give it a test ride with my wife on the back and see how it goes
@@renes9966 you're welcome it's a great commuting machine, i Hope you to enjoy the test 🤗
I took the C400 X for a test tide yesterday (demo bike). I noticed a little rattle by the rear suspension/transmission area while going downhill o letting the engine slow down when approaching a red light. I am not sure if this noise was always present while riding.
Hace you experienced something like that?
I was thinking, wouldn't it be nice if BMW made a 500 cc opposed twin, a boxer, scooter with the intake in the front so it could get it's ram air right under the feet up front, with exhaust coming out the rear? Then the gas tank could be between the feet and maybe they could make it a bit larger for range. I don't know why the boxer engines are quite high in the center. I didn't think it would need to be that way. Maybe I should look into it, but I like the idea of scooters having a low center of gravity and lots of storage. I'm thinking side saddle bags could be a part of the build in for even more storage. If the cylinders are short, they wouldn't have to stick out so far. Maybe they could be angled up a bit, even. I just see a lot of potential for these larger scooters which seem to be something relatively new.
I like this scooter seems beautiful and fast
As always sir, i do hope you can also review the DRAGSTER-200....
Would like to see you review the Honda X-ADV 2021!!
Would love to see your review doing the same ride with the Kymco AK 550
I am 65 years old and have been riding for over 26 years. I hoping to test drive a BMW C400 GT in the next week.
Have you ended up buying the Scooter? How was your experience and opinion about this scooter>?
@@rolandjosef7961 No, somebody else bought it. Still looking.
Made totally in China at Loncin factory ....cheaply made
Made totally in China at Loncin factory 🏭
@@user-tv8ut5mr4l oh no! What a rip off. BMW makes it appear that this is s premium scooter. I wish you are wrong. Thanks.
Nice review, after 40+ years of biking I’ve just bought one of these don’t have it yet should be with me by next week, never ridden a scooter but wanted this for nipping around locally. I’ve not gone for the TFT have a few BMW’s with the TFT, it works really well but didn’t see the need for it on the scooter, also wasn’t so keen on the look of the screen with the blue colour.
Hello. Did you receive the scooter? What do you think about it?
@@keepsoulfree ye I received it and love it, did 500 miles in the first two weeks, great two up as well.
Excellent review. Seems to be useful for the city. My motorcareer started with a 250 cc Vespa scooter, but now I prefer a "real" BMW motor.
LOL! I'm thinking of trading my "real" 1250RT for this!!!!
Kidding...
@@NothingToProve I want to see that, LOL
Should i just get this over a motorcycle 😂 im 6’4, 230 pretty solid build. I’m mainly looking to be on 2 wheels idc if it’s an automatic scooter if the thing goes 90mph 😂. Im looking to use it as a daily summer commuter around town and also would like to take it down to Atlantic City from northern jersey when I want to
Did you get it? And if you did, how did it handle on the GSP all the way to AC?
This is far better than Forza 350, Xmax 300 and Burgman in my opinion.
Excellent review as always! Many thanks!
How it can be better? Forza 350 probably better in price point.
@@GameWinner85 forza for short legs. 400gt can stretch out ; very comfy
Xmax 300 has the best engine out of all of them
@problemslayer3538 I've been on all of them and Xmax is the best buy counting everything ...motor, speed, gas mileage, room, storage is bigger than all of them !!!!! I can leave my friends burg 400 and BMW 400 at the start and they can't catch me for about a mile away !!!! My gas mileage EATS THEIR LUNCH !!!! 2 FULL SIZE HELMETS UNDER MY SEAT ALL DAY LONG !!!!
beautiful....OMG
I want one !
A review of the Yamha Tricity 300 would be interesting.
19c? is it early in the morning? That's chilly. We get 40c in NJ/USA. Lovely scoot. But the nav is not serious. Maybe good in a small town ride. Suzuki has more under seat storage. Unfortunately it is hard if not impossible to get a test ride in the US (providing they're selling these).
Hi Scott! Would you try the Honda X-ADV with DCT clutch? These new maxi scooters aren't as much "scooters" as we used to think about them. Lot more. Thanks.
xadv omg for very short legged folks. so NOT comfy
Nice review. When you were sitting on it, were your knees above your hips? The seat height numbers seem on the lower side....
For me it was about even with my hips. But it all depends on how tall you are and how long your leg is...foot to knee...specifically.
ride safe,
Scott
I really like your reviews. Those jeans looked good. I presume they are riding jeans with armour for the knees and hips. What are they called? Thanks!
Thank you. Those are Trilobite Parado jeans 👍
Nailed the review. Thank you.
All E-scooters are a joke aka no range and a battery that degrades everyday from the day you buy it and they are exorbitant to replace.
far more leg room and comfy than my Tmax
I've got a BMW c400x 15" front wheel 14" back wheel, the standard windscreen is smaller on the 400x so mine is fitted with a touring screen, my sat nav works from my phone via bluetooth and also needs to be connected to bluetooth headphones to work, it does everything that I want and they are made in China.
I am thinking about this scooter and the Yamaha Tmax Tech. Id like your view on that one as it has a more detailed TFT with fully built in satnav, plus it's a 550cc? Here in the UK the price is approx £12,700 (ish) whereas the BMW is below £10k. I have to agree that the turn-by-turn is a bit basic and should have a full satnav .
a tough choice. in Asia the tmax is $3,000 more. and 400GT has more leg room of your tall to stretch out. an ez choice for me
140 km/h one handed talking to the camera and taking over and changing lane…what better way to demonstrate is is stable at top speed. So stable you do the review with ease and without a second thought. I know you are a carefull driver and not a yammi hothead.
Which brand and model camera mount is this at the base of the left hand mirror on this C400 GT?
RAM, Gopro Max
These look way comfortable while still being fun. Being 6ft with a 34in inseam it’s been hard to find a motorcycle that fits.
@Butts0hboi I'm 6 3 210 34 inseam and I have plenty of room on my 2023 Xmax 300 !!!! I love this machine !!!! You can't beat it with BMWs or Honda Forza !!!!
@@Butts0hboi I'm 6 3. 210 lbs 34 inseam and 2023 Xmax 300 is comfortable as can be !!!! The best there is for $6299 out the door price I paid Nov 2023 !!!
Great video as always 👍
What license I need to have in Germany to drive scooter like this?
Ahh...I think an A2 because it has 34ps.
@@NothingToProveYes, it's A2. (Goes up to 48hp meanwhile.)
Can you please test the BMW C 400 X ?
Make Honda X ADV 750 review please!
All these mid-size scooter reviews do the comparison with the freeway commute maxi scooters and say it stands up fine, but where are the comparisons to the advantages of small in-town scooters, the 49cc to 185cc sizes that are so convenient for their uses -- does the C400 fill both niches? Can it hide/share a parking spot with a car? can it lane-split? Will it get ticketed on a curb sidewalk where a 125cc wouldn't? That kind of thing.
i don't know much about, is this automatic or you have to shift ? thanks
yep, automatic
Whats the mpg on these?
Test drove the C400GT today. No comparison to the CE 04. The C400GT is like driving a the Chevy Sonic and the CE 04 is like driving a top of the line Cadillac.
Test the CB500X please! we are BEGGING you !
May dream bmw😉
Absented hand brake !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t tell me about malicious action of people going to make damage to our bikes with knifes or other instruments. That are the downside of owning a bike. If you need to park it, that’s unfortunately always a possibility…😞
In the upper segment for this machines would like to see your review of the new TMAX from Yamaha. It costs about €15.000,00. But it is still a Scooter, 15” wheels like the rest of them all. Is it a valid option? For commuting, of course but it still sounds like a vacuum cleaner…
Tanks for your comparison here and BMW,s Scooter review.
how this reach 142km and the yamaha xmax 300 155km?
Looking tonteplace my burgman 650 as rhey are outnof production. I hear BMW scooters are very costly to maintain?
They are still making the Burgman 400 😊
I have not been on the Burgman at all so I can't give an opinion. And I have not heard about maintenance costs on this BMW, but I've learned that with the BMW dealers in the U.S., it really depends on the individual dealer and if you have a good relationship with them. But if you love your Burgman, just go down to the 400 and continue with Suzuki but it is about $100-200 more than the BMW - MSRP.
Take care,
Scott
I have been riding R1200RT for 18 years and just bought a C400GT. It is a breeze in the city! I love the instruments, the heated seat/handlebars, the TFT screen features. Now to get a top box and most importantly - a brake lever locking pin. THAT is the one big omission, not having a park brake! Try programming your phone when the scooter is on a slope!
I miss my Harley, but everyday rides are eaaier now
Kymco has always manufactured the C650, C600 and C400 for BMW...
The c400 is built by Loncin in China.
How tall are you I am 5 -11 "do you have enough leg room
How much does this thing way either dry or wet so please definitely have someone please definitely tell me how much this thing way wet or dry thanx a ton because I want to buy this bike in the not so in the future
www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/models/urban_mobility/c400gt/technicaldata.html#/section-equipment
Why they are making less power scooters now? Why 400c when 600 was the thing? I dont get it... I have tmax 500 and aprilia srv 850 scooters, I wish one day they will make scooter with 1000cc engine :D
review 2022 suzuki burgman 400
I would rather have a Suzuki Burgman 400. OK so the Beemer puts out a bit more power and has a few more bells and whistles but for around £800 more? I don't think so.
Sure, it's great, but why they call it a GT with THAT under the seat? No space for luggage in movement. It's a pity.
Top box
cruise control ?
Nope, does you Tmax?
Slow compared with Kymco AK550 yet the price is comparable in Australia. Where do BMW make the C400GT? the old BMW C600 and C650GT were made in the Kymco factory, Taiwan.
No. C600/650 were made in Berlin, Germany. Only the engines were built by Kymco (without using them in any Kymco-vehicle itself).
Does everything except having a storage
Scooters are fun but make tight U-turns very difficult; unlike motorcycles.
I tried it and it makes no difference for other "400" scooters. If you enjoy electronics and warm contact points, ok. Rear suspension is the worst feeling I had.
140km with one hand thats increadible🫡
why not talk about leg room for persons over 6' ( 180cm) very comfy
Sorry, I have very limited experience on scooters. I'm 5'10" and would have liked more leg room but again I have no experience to compare it to, so I said nothing about leg room. BTW, I don't think I'll do many more scooters, I'm a bike guy :)
So you would recommend the Kymco then!
Need that the drivers license in motor.
Batteries/electric isn’t as green as it’s made out to be. Not to mention it’s only as “clean” as its source…so countries that rely particularly on …idk let’s just say coal for arguments sake…going electric is particularly antithetical to the cause in such countries. Such a step back to go from cleaner burning gas to more reliance on coal.
I could also never downgrade to 95km of range and having to stop forever to charge
Its all about control.....
Seem pairs brand in yamaha tmax
I've got to think a Cb500x is better over those cobbles
Yea, of course, 19" front on the X vs. a 15", the 19" will win all day long.
In the End it is just a scooter….
NTP ….
Nice helmet is that a Schubert C4 pro ??
In the end, a wanker on a sports bike is still a wanker.
Yeppers! Nice helmet, the best helmet I've ever owned.
For a high priced scooter, the storage is pitiful.
Electric vehicles are only "green" in terms of the vehicle owner's direct interaction with it, as the construction of the battery and motors certainly isn't, nor is (typically) the generation of the electricity needed to run it. The electric vehicle industry actively supports environmental destruction, as well as child labor and economic slavery. Take a car, for instance -- it would take over ten years of ownership and use for an electric car to be less harmful to use over an ICE, due to the significant amount of pollution/harm caused during construction.
Calling a vehicle "green" is repeating propaganda. Calling an electric vehicle "zero emission" or "good for the environment' is greenwashing BS.
TFT display is not a standard. It's easy to dismount and in "west, developed democracy" full of "cultural enrichment" like UK or France there's a big chance u'll enjoy it for just few days.
Engine is chinese product, makes anoying metalic sound and this "flex" storage sucks. Almost there. Tested one.
This heavy pig weighs 150 pounds more than my Vespa gts
We don't need electric scooters. Power is too pricey.
Hybrid it's the way for now
@@emanuelmarcos lol I like your jokes :)
These BMWs have a Chinese Loncin engine. Why would anyone invest in a Chinese engine when you can buy Yamaha or Honda for considerably less ?