This is fake 29:31 the laughing in background shows the editing as well as the timing and no judge would allow this in court or on this type of case maybe I report this site to BBB
And we only learn of the cases that erupt into the news. How many other children are in daily agony - unknown victims of parental cruelty? The daily - hourly - torture that this poor child had to endure before death came to rescue him is unimaginable: we hear the words but the reality is beyond words.
It's awful. I grew up in the "inner city" and the things I've seen are absolutely heartbreaking. So many Ppl are horrific "parents" 😔 (before & after being born).
This is what I think about too. You never know what is happening behind closed doors. It could be happening at your neighbors, in your neighborhood, in your town and no one would know until the ultimate tragedy happens and the police get involved. It kills me to think that there’s children suffering right now. About 10 minutes from me AJ Freund was murdered by his disgusting birth giver and his sperm donor took his tiny body and buried him in a field in the next town over before reporting him missing. No one knew what was happening. DCFS was notified by the local ER doctor because he had huge bruises and DCFS dropped the ball. One of those workers was just convicted. One was not.
The added layer of her not only torturing her son but conditioning her other son to participate in it is just.. I have no words. This whole thing is so sick
Let's not leave out the crippled old man upstairs hollering and directing a good bit of this cruelty. Whenever the need to control took over the love, that's when things went for a ride on the crazy train to perdition 😪
Absolutely. She tortured both of these boys, just in different ways. I hope Paul gets the help he clearly needs, and has an opportunity to live some of his life in a normal way.
@@truthseeker6370as an autistic person myself, and based on the fact that autism, adhd, and such run in families, I'd be willing to bet that he's also autistic. Just with lower support needs. Either way, he's clearly scared of his mother.. 😢
@@trevaenglish1542 yes, I agree. He seems intelligent enough, but his answers make me think that he could very well have autism. I have been watching this video with the zoom right up close to his face and his hands when visible and I don't have any doubt whatsoever that he's scared of his mother. I see he got convicted too. I hope that his case is appealed quickly and successfully.
My boy is autistic I understand it's a big spectrum however my son is high functioning and he could never sit n quietly articulate the way this poor boy is he's not autistic id spot that a mile away
I don't think her law degree has anything to do with this, she was just evil and disgusting...It seems she was over her head and this poor guy, who has some sort of disability was her pawn
What was wrong with this lady?? Why on earth did she treat this boy this way? Was she unable to handle his disability?? Why?? Why?? Where had he been before he lived with them??😊
She had been repeatedly raped by her father by the age of 8 to 12. He had also been charged for molestering other children including her sister. These cycles of abuse in families must stop
This may be a controversial opinion, but this is why I'm wary of Homeschooling. It allows a parent to hide a child for their entire lives, never showing their children to anybody. Had she been required to send Timothy to school, the abuse would have been immediately evident.
Its sad i can four different trials / deaths right off the top of my head just by browsing and then watching them on youtube. You’re right… I can’t even begin to imagine what we haven’t seen or heard of.
In Canada today at public school a child can change their name and gender without even telling their parents. If the parents think their child is being groomed and complain, they can be jailed, fined, have their children abducted by child protective services and then the child can get hormone blockers, and surgery even though they can't drive a car, get a piercing or a tattoo or vote. There is no where safe for kids these days.
I'd be interested in knowing the statistics about how long abuse went on before being discovered for both publicly schooled and home schooled kids. I suspect that home schooled kids endured abuse longer before discovery.
I made a comment on a previous post about this man and his mother wishing the worst for both without seeing this one. Now I feel sorry because it’s clear that this man has been influenced. Yes he is a grow man but has struggled a hell of a lot. She should take the maximum amount of penalties for this. He obviously is accountable BUT has suffered also. She has taken advantage. So sad 😞 it’s rly so so sad x
It is a simple way of looking at undesirable behavior in people. Imagine if people are just so complex, that we have both desirable and also cruel sides within us. That doesn't mean the act can be justified but we are still human. If we are to find some kind of reconciliation in humanity, maybe we need to start there.
As a father of three, I do admit I get angry and frustrated… BUT the thought of inflicting pain or not feeding my children doesn’t cross my mind. You do make a valid point though..
@Heretoskate1 I am a father of four, and for me, it's so far out that a parent can do what she did. I have myself never "punished" my kids for "misbehaving."
She may be human but no humanity there. She has no good sides. The world will always have contrast, yes. The good, the bad, and complex good mixed with bad. That woman is bad. That woman is a monster. She can not be reconciled.
This case reminds me so much of the book “A Boy Called It”. The authors mother chose him to be the main recipient of her sadistic abuse and used his older siblings to also perpetuate abuse against him because they feared for themselves and the mother always manipulated them to believe that their younger brother was bad and deserved everything he was getting. They were abusers but they were manipulated to be abusers by their mother and to a much lesser degree they were also abused by her. They also had no reason to think their mother’s behavior was abnormal. Truly a sickening story of just literal evil torture of a child who couldn’t defend himself.
I was thinking of that book the whole time as well, it’s eerily similar. it’s extremely disturbing to see that case replicated, and to think of how much it’s being replicated without our knowing. it makes me sick, i hope that poor baby is at peace 💔
He said in a statement why didn't you help him and he said I guess I didn't love him. He was actually working a job he could have notified anybody at any time to save his brother's life.
You gotta wonder if she was judging the criminals while she worked in court. I’ve been a criminal in this very court, she probably scribed my case. (Just driving stuff)
Absolutely. The level of trauma and abuse is terrible. Parents are supposed to be caregivers and take care of us. We're supposed to feel safe around them. You can't possibly feel safe around someone ordering you to help her torture your sibling. He can't probably trust anyone else now too. He's going to need therapy for years, maybe more than a decade.
He is not innocent, before he even lived with his mother, he lived with his half-sister who testified that he was a Big Bully. They wanted to test him for sociopath but couldn't until he was 18. He is not innocent, sure mom is more guilty but he is too.
My son is non verbal and autistic. I can’t even begin to imagine a young boy with this set of disabilities being treated like this- let alone anyone for that matter !! He had no idea and chance of what love really looks like. Hearing the cruel torture to this young boy breaks my heart / brought me to tears. How can anyone live with themselves after committing such heinous acts?!? He was punished for being tired, hungry, and moving. I’m surprised they allowed him to breathe. And to make her other son participate in this is psychologically effed up. He sees first hand what could happen to him the moral standing against fear had to have caused so much trauma and skewed his own moral compass and understanding . His own family tortured the helpless boy literally to death. I am the voice for my son - I am his biggest advocate. To think his voice and guide in this world killed him for merely being alive. He died in pain-and all alone. I pray his spirit is at rest and peace now.
Come on.....!!! this brother was fully aware of his actions.. the punishment and torture Timothy endured and suffered from the hands of his mother and brother's brutal treatment is criminal. Always seems these brilliant academics are nuts.
This kid is terrified and is looking to anyone for confirmation that he is doing the correct thing. He has been beaten down his whole life by her- that is clearly evident
I agree. My heart is hurting for him. He is so terrified. He can't stop looking at his mother. He has been mentally abused his whole life, imo. What an evil woman she is.
this is not how the brain of a traumatised person works. if she abused him the same way she abused Tim, since they were babies, then it's normal that he told no one.
@@MadinaTall-f9wnah, i wouldn’t say that’s normal. Normal is protecting your younger sibling. I’m speaking as someone who was abused and traumatized, by a parent and step-parent, and who has diagnosed c-ptsd. I stood up for my younger brother (2.5 years younger) when I was much younger than Paul (starting around the age of 8/9) MANY times. I stood up for him against physical violence and at the threat of, and execution of, other extreme punishments (not nearly as extreme as Timothy had to endure however). I’m also diagnosed with ASD (high functioning) so mental disorders aren’t an excuse either, as I’ve seen other commenters use that alongside Paul being afraid himself. I’d fight my parent(s) to the death before I allowed even a fraction of this torture to take place, let alone participate in it. No one’s trauma/ reaction to trauma is the same so ofc my experiences don’t define everyone else’s, but it’s a false narrative that fear overrides love/ morals, or is an excuse to behave so cruelly. Paul even said he didn’t love Timothy enough. He feels bad cause he knows it was wrong and he should have done something sooner, and if he knows it’s wrong, then there’s no excuse for him to not get help or TRY. Even if he was afraid in the moment and that made him complacent, he would have gotten help or tried to if he felt bad and loved his brother.
Seeing that lady shaking her head makes my blood boil. It makes me feel very conflicted when a parent makes a child an accessory, especially if the child accomplice has a learning disability. She coerced, bullied, and brainwashed him. She was always watching. She forced this kid to torture his brother, while wanting him to think she was always watching. This whole thing makes me so mad. She couldn't be a mom, she had to be a jailer too. Kids trust their parents, they want to please them and be accepted. When a parent forces hell on their kids, there are only victims.
I literally just said the SAME exact thing about her shaking her head! I just wanted to jump through the screen so bad. how DARE she act like that when her child’s life was literally lost… disgusting.
Yep didn't it just irk you!! Her chewing that gum,,like if she was so special since she use to work in that courthouse,,burned my ass too. I was so glad when that Judge put a stop to that!!
She thought of everything to torture her son, down to making sure his body position in the ice bath provided him no relief whatsoever from discomfort. The level of hatred for him is incomprehensible.
@@recuerdos2457I think she is very insecure about her own intelligence (in her testimony videos you can tell that her education and mental capacity is very important to her) and she resented and hated her own children for having disabilities/disorders that limited or challenged their intellectual abilities. I think she looked down on them and thought they were useless and stupid
@@awkwardautistic and what is right and wrong? It is what you are taught as right or wrong. For some people euthanasia is wrong for others it is the right thing to do in some cases. It is a belief, an idea, it is not an absolute... What you are referring to is "having empathy towards others". That is something completely different. Any person with empathy towards others would indeed not do this, because they don't want to inflict pain on others... And maybe he was afraid of what his mother was capable of. This is a very complex thing for us to understand. And to be honest, I don't think we are capable of understanding what this kind of environment does to you. It's is not excuse, but I believe it is more complex than just black or white, there is a whole spectrum of different greys in between...
No, this boy knows right from wrong that is why he agreed to the PLEA!! He is guilty as she is and both are evil murderers !! Had the child in the closet, cameras on him, starving him, cold baths, no Doctors, no medicine, home school, hand cuffs…. pure evil and I hope they both get INMATE JUSTICE!!
He keeps looking over at his mother, still terrified. He committed crimes but I hope the judge will be merciful and include intense therapy as part of his sentence. Paul is a victim here. That woman is the devil.
@@kimmie1957I kept hoping the lawyer would do that, he’s clearly intimidated and doing his best. You can clearly see him beating himself up for not helping his brothers, for not standing up to his mother even though he was being abused as well. I hope his sentence isn’t harsh but includes a TON of therapy and they bury her under the jail.
Paul might be 'a' victim, but he's sure as hell not THE victim here. A boy is DEAD, and it happened as a direct consequence of Paul's actions, an adult with a job who frequently and enthusiastically texted his mom about wanting to torture and kill Timothy, exchanging conspiracy theories that Timothy was 'faking it', etc. It's outrageous that people are feeling sorry for a child murderer who turned state's witness to avoid a murder charge himself.
I’m sure he has been abused his whole life. His teeth are terrible and he looks malnourished. If he didn’t follow orders he probably got the same treatment. He sounds articulate and intelligent. She’s ruined all of her children’s lives and even killed one.
I agree, when they asked him who decided that the poor boy was overeating I was looking at him and thinking I bet he genuinly has no idea what a regular full diet looks like because he is so clearly unhealthily underwieght. There is nondoibt in my mind this young man was awfully neglacted a d abused by his mother aswell.
Well I guess I haven't heard yet why he didn't leave He's old enough to leave He worked as a dishwasher He should have reported this because it was inevitable It was going to kill his brother and maybe even him I guess that's just brainwashing though you know sometimes you get brainwashed and if she raised them since they were little then he's been brainwashed you know. Lots of people that are in colts and have been brainwashed don't report things
Here is a prime example of a mother who has created a potential criminal within Paul. I do hope charges are brought against her for abusing Paul as well. I hope Paul can find good supportive help and recover from this horrible upbringing. Why OK would just drop follow up because she moved out of state is beyond broken. It's criminal. Children cannot, SHOULD NOT be victims of bureaucracy BS.
So true. How many cases like this have we seen of abusive parents being given permission for Home Schooling and no follow-up. Not everyone who does that is criminal. But those with questionable behavior, arrest records, should not be given this right.
She is a f’n monster. At this point what was he even being punished for? If food was locked what were the infractions? There were none - it was just torture plain and simple. If only this was HER treatment in prison.
I have a fifteen year old son with autism. I got him early help at age two, he's now in tenth grade on the honor roll and all the teachers praise about how respectful and kind he is. I could never imagine being so cruel to another human being let alone my own son!! Pure evil.
That is awesome. My 5 year old is autistic but unfortunately because of covid it took just a year to diagnose him and he has been in speech and OT for 2 years and just got accepted into ABA. I hope it helps
Nah, he was an adult who had a job. He's using words like reiterate, & induce. He says he knew the child didn't like eating things with hot sauce and refused to pour hot sauce on the kids genitals ( he wore a diaper and prob had sores and rashes).... All signs that he knew what he was doing was dead wrong. Sounds like this abuse didn't start until the special needs kid came to live w/them and after the step father had the stroke. They say the kid was chubby when he came to live with them. This isn't some long standing abuse. This is them not being able to handle the child with special needs. Think of how many teens get charged as adults for their crimes this guy was an actual adult yet y'all wanna treat him like a child. He knew it was dead wrong to do what he was doing he knew it was a form of punishment/discipline I have no sympathy for this child abuser.
@@moriordan85 if you know what those words mean, then you know that he was using them incorrectly. He clearly has some cognitive deficiencies. Simply repeating “big words” doesn’t mean that he can understand them. He wasn’t able to answer very simple questions unless they were REPHRASED (that would be the appropriate word to use, reiterate means to repeat; rephrase means to say in another way). This kid has been just as victimized as his brother who died. I have nothing but empathy for him. The person you should detest is the monster sitting in the defendants seat. This kid needs therapy in a locked in environment until he has built skills to live in a group home, and then slowly moved to the outside world. All he is guilty of is trying to not get his mother’s attention and suffer her wrath too.
He is so gaunt and afraid. He was someone who was constantly having to obey his mother- I can’t even imagine how hard it was for him to testify against her. But it was so impactful that he did.
His hands say so much. He doesn't know what to do with his hands. He is so intimidated by that woman. He has no self-confidence and he's ashamed of what he has done to his brother, now that the truth is being brought into the light. Sad. Just sad.
Homeschooling, being cuffed to a bed, and many teachers spoke out and cared about his well-being. Not sure if im confusing cases, but if I remember correctly one let him use the shower
The fact he sent his mother a picture of Timothy’s body expressing concern for his well being, shows that he has empathy and is not a sociopathic monster like his mother. I hope he gets some serious therapy and support.
exactly. that will be his saving grace. along with the fact he asked his mom to call 911 right away and she said NO. he wanted to help, but she had all the control
Of course he noticed the boy was skinny…..his not an idiot ! It’s nothing about emphasizing….he was smart enough to advise his mother that he was starving and that he would find himself involved in the torture !
I bet the Mom maybe needed someone to talk to you before the violence I occurred. I got charm, I maybe could have charmed her and stopped her. You never know. Someone told me, "Young man you are naive thinking you got the magic charm to cure "Deadly Women" I told one of my friends he's in his 50's (I'm 33 yrs of age right now myself) that I wanted to be kidnapped by a group of Sorority Sisters. He said "Be careful dude, your weakness is Women". "Don't get seduced & fall on the Web "
Imagine listening to this, knowing your child is dead because of your abuse, shaking your head and taking notes like this lady. She has no humanity and that “panic attack” was a show because this testimony is far worse than the texts being read out loud.
Hitler can have a real physiological panic attack. The cultural prevalence of one's conduct is not determine whether once panic attack is getting feigned or not..
That Young man shows clearly that he is on the spectrum too. He needs a psychologist. The fact that he had no empathy, did not call for help +++. and did his mothers bidding. She knew that he would follow everything she said. Thank gawd the judge saw it too, and asked after if was diagnosed with other things?. He definitely has Autism.
This young man clearly has special needs, as well. This woman conditioned him to carry out her torture. In no way should he be held accountable. This is a whole different kind of parental abuse. This kid is clearly traumatized by what he was forced to do. His shame is strong enough to sense through the phone screen. Yet, the mother feels justified. Worse, she went to law school. She knew how to manipulate the system and hide the evidence. I feel physical pain and deep grief for both the child who died and for the child forced to assist in his brother's death. May she get the maximum punishment.
I agree. When he looks defiantly toward her as he answers some of the questions you can see he is trying to take control back from her. He may have felt more important at first being in charge but you can see he has mental disabilities. Whatever he is she has designed him to be such. No mother would do this to her babies, and her high intelligence is so disturbing. I can’t even imagine how she makes this right with herself. I hope she gets what she deserves and someone takes it upon themselves to rehabilitate this young man. He should not have been living this way.
Did they say he had special needs or something? I might've missed that, because he doesn't seem to have any special needs at all based on this testimony
Her continually shaking her head ‘no’ while pursing her lips, during his testimony, is equivalent to witness tampering. She knows she still strikes fear in her son- she is a horrendous person.
I feel so bad for even Paul. You can tell he has also been abused and conditioned to starve himself. He was so uncomfortable when talking about the weights and when he described Timothy as being "chubby" when he first arrived he looked over to see the reactions and then had to hug himself basically to calm down. Then when he heard that Timothy was supposedly going on a hunger strike (a lie) you could see the anger in his face that his mother would even think to make that lie. I'm not even 15 minutes in, and I'm shaken, really. I couldn't help but cry when he said he had to sneak the meal that he cooked for fear of getting in trouble. The amount of torture this woman put her children through is so sick and to do this to someone with special needs is even more horrific. I hope this vile woman is only fed bread with hot sauce in prison...
His looks toward her is anger and disgust not much as fear anymore. Hes embarrassed to answer these questions in front of these people because of her. I hope he feels some relief telling on her. She didn't care about this son either.😢
@@schmimzyif even in her mouth, reminds me of the Takota case. AL ugh just ugh and the girlfriend who went along with it .. and her sister who got 8 years but I think she was half responsible she was slow but not that slow she was scared too, where she told on Takota because she was scared of AL too the whole case is sick. The leg of the chair thing I vomited, he was r*ping him, and the bending down touching his toes for hours.. having to eat whatever they gave him that way…. but the jumping out the attic SMALL window speaks volumes like a horror movie… just trying to get away, only to be given right back 😔😣😢
I don’t know anything about this case but it’s clear that something is not right with this kid. I’d say Timothy wasn’t the only one who was being abused in that house
This case is beyond horrific! Hearing his brother describe what was done to Timothy makes me sick to my stomach. 🤢 I’ve heard a lot of different abuse cases.. but this one is one of the worst! RIP Timothy!🙏
PS when I was very young a family tortured a visitor who rented. The sick evil mother was Gertrude Baniszewski. I believe Shanda Vanderbilt Ark & Gertrude are soul mates
He listens so literally to every word, he’s been so traumatized to get every answer and word right. I went through some home horrors but this guy has so much trauma from his own survival. He’s not a sociopath, he was terrified and his mother gave him reason to believe it’d be him if he wasn’t the one doing it.
And just look at how he reacts when he has a minor error like nodding/shaking his head instead of verbalizing yes/no. Regardless of what has gone on, this is a man who has been severely traumatized by his mother, this is someone who is extremely scared of saying or doing the wrong thing, and this is someone whose behavior has been under surveillance and scrutiny. He has such clear guilt and discomfort for what happened. At the end of the day he never would have done this if he wasn't in this bizarre reality his mother constructed. Wow this video is devastating to watch. And Shaunda is over there just shaking her head in contempt that he isn't smart enough to lie as well as she does. Wow.
Not all the time, his facebook is telling different story. He is not innocent. What his mother would do thim? Make him to eat the hot sauce? Timothy was sitting in the icy bathtub for 4 hours the day before he died. Why? The instruction from his mother were 30 min. He is a monster, he killed his brother as well as his mother, duo from hell.
Paul is just as evil as his mother. He bullied his brother Timothy his whole life. Paul only lived with his mother from 18 to 20. Paul was evil long before he moved in with his mother. They are two peas in a pod. Paul needs to be locked up and the key thrown away. He committed these crimes as an adult as well!
@@Tyr_Of_Justice nobody is defending him. You can clearly tell he was mentally abused by her and probably physically as well. Look how thin he is. She is a monster. And used her own son to carry out fucked up acts by manipulation and torture. He is definitely also a victim though. Who knows what she has done to him to make him so afraid to go to police.
That's the type of employment these people tend to get into as it's all about power over other people. politicians, police, judges, doctors, educators. child protection.
Unless you’ve ever lived with an abusive parent who you feared, no one can fully understand Paul’s involvement. I can almost 100% say that he was abused most of his life. He didn’t dare disobey his mother. For emotional abuse is almost more devastating as physical abuse. I hope this kid gets the help he deserves, and gets no jail time. Counceling hopefully will be sufficient… he had empathy for his brother… he deserves it back. I’m so sorry for what he was forced to do.
Yeah I’m sickened by all the people being ignorant in the comments , it’s not like he gets away with it , he did also do harm and should be held accountable. But context matters, it’s clear that he’s been manipulated and scared of his mother his entire life. I also think he’s a neurodiverse person himself, it’s not shocking she got him to do her dirty work and he did it to please her.
Monsters create monsters. I'm pretty sure her childhood wasn't any better. Because she never knew anything else, that was normal for her. Unfortunately, that is the sad truth.
Will the father was no angel he he participated probably at least by ignoring the situation situation. I wonder if they'll ask this kid how does he feel about doing those things and did anybody do that stuff to him? 😢
Until we find out how this kid felt while this is going on there's really no thing. We need to know this to see if he will be a menace to society. Right now he's probably testifying to get a reduced sentence. He will need a lot of love and counseling to be able to love himself again after she forced him to do these things.. ❤😢
No really it made me cry. This is heartbreaking, he is sitting there in cuffs while she shakes her head like he’s lying. I knew this trial was going to be hard to watch but this young man clearly was manipulated and abused himself. That’s very obvious.
Probably because his mother threatened him if he didn't do what he was told to do. I feel bad for this young man. He doesn't belong in jail. @@jennfrostbutter2715
@@jennfrostbutter2715 I think there are many psychological abuse and control factors that were likely used on him, it’s heartbreaking and mind boggling that this stuff happens and to invoke a sibling is abuse on that child too.
That’s the American jurisprudence system for you. A justice system based on retribution, & not rehabilitation! There’s an expensive human cost, to that kind of social anger! Let’s all keep in mind, that this kid’ll be out of prison one day! I’d rather he was reformed, not just another angry young man on the street!..🤷🏻♀️
@@awkwardautisticseems he’s brainwashed from what others are implying, even sent photos of him to her showing concern, unlike her who didn’t show a bit of concern.
Yes, the mother does not deserve 3 hots and a cot at Our expense. If harsher laws would be put in place, these things would cease to happen among us. Thank God Timothy is in heaven healthy and free!❤
I agree but to the system that’s an easy way out so they decided to sentence her life without parole and to have her suffer worse consequences alive !!
@@amybahner6511 I agree with the sentiment, but it's just not true that harsher laws like the death penalty actually deter crime. She deserves whatever punishment she gets and I pray she will never have the opportunity to hurt anyone else. All we can do is hope for her rehabilitation otherwise this whole process is for nothing.
This is the first I’m hearing about this. I don’t ever watch the news. Ever. But this came across my feed and I feel sick to my stomach! That mother deserves the same punishment she inflicted on her child!!!!! Man I wish we lived in a country that doles out the same punishment that these monsters inflict! 🤬🤬🤬
This kid has been tortured and severely emotionally abused. He is a victim not an abuser. Just because he is over 18 doesn't make him emotionally an adult. Adult brain function isn't reached until late 20's. He needs extensive and long term therapy, not persecution.
Yeah and they don't give that a lot in a lot of jails sometimes prison will give that now you only go to prison if your sentence is more than like a year but a lot of jails are pretty threadbare and not so great so you don't have internet you can't really do much of anything but stare sometimes you don't even get books since COVID so. Yeah he does need therapy a lot of it I agree So I hope that the prosecution and people in our country start caring about that that are in the government so that they can get better and not get worse
@@wheresmycoffee8998yeah I agree too but I guess you don't understand what it's like to be in a cult and to be brainwashed I often worry about some kids I knew that we're very brainwashed by a narcissist thankfully they're away from this violent narcissist now but they were also malnourished You wouldn't think so because one of them was chunky but they shot up and started looking healthy once I got them they were just kind of living on junk food it's a different kind of abuse but it's still abuse in neglect. And they were used as weapons also now they weren't as abused as these children but there was a lot of terrible things going on and sometimes people that are raised like that with no internet and just the brainwashing it's just a tough situation but yeah I think he needs consequences to understand it's wrong and then he also needs a lot of therapy
I broke into tears when Paul said he made his brother a peanut and jelly sandwich and scrambled eggs. Paul is going to need a lot of help moving forward. She is just vile. To be so bereft of an ounce of human decency is beyond me.
The only once of humanity the poor kid saw during his last year of life. It showed him that at least someone cared. You can tell Paul was terrified to admit doing it, by the way he glanced over at Shanda after his admission.
Paul participated in the abuse. She may have come up with the torture, but he carried out her orders, tattled on his brother bringing more punishment on him, and skipped thousands of opportunities to call CPS or 911.
Meh. I think Paul lied about making him scrambled eggs. Look at how he's looking around. He knows what he did to Timothy and knows it was wrong. I don't think he's as culpable as his mother but he feels all those eyes on him. He said that about the eggs to try and set himself apart as a little bit better , distance himself from his mother. She instructed him to give Timothy peanut butter on bread.
@@Lupina-mp5ckWho would be the culprit be? His mother? He was a bully always a bully hence his father kicked Paul out of the house. Paul also sexually assaulted Timothy. There was no promoting by Shanda. Transcripts.
Omggggg this was disgusting. Good for Paul for coming clean about those last horrific moments of life for his brother. I can’t believe there’s another case of “child dies from starvation and neglect “ type of thing. I can’t believe how cruel someone’s behaviour can be, especially to someone with special needs. Terrible just awful.
This is really sad. When Covid happened and there was lockdown announced everywhere, the immediate thought that came to me was about the people who are abused at home. The place that’s supposed to be safe is the scariest place on Earth when the abuser is staying with you 24/7
So let me see if I have this right. In the process of dying, due to torture and starvation, he is further tortured for being too weak to even wake up and even taunted with food. My god. It’s hard to fathom that this level of cruelty even exists. It truly is I fathomable.
He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
@@toroverde9329He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
This young man was forced to torture his disabled brother. I can see this has caused him deep mental anguish. He looks her way & scowled like, "How dare you put us through this monster!" I know this young man struggles daily & Shaundas sick actions live rent-free in his head. I wish him well & hope he gets counseling to be free from her torturous abuse inflicted on him & his sibling.
He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
I do believe she would’ve done the same to him had he not complied. To keep himself “safe” he had to obey her orders, this is a reason but not an excuse. He could’ve called for help, he could’ve done a lot but he’s clearly been abused and manipulated his entire life and knows what she is capable of, just like victims of domestic violence don’t leave or call for help this kid didn’t either. He needs heavy therapy and I think he would benefit from being in an institution over a prison.
He has obvious cognitive impairment. This is the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever seen. Some monsters like this woman NEVER deserve to have children. Prayers for sweet “G”.
He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
Sounds that simple but I don’t think it was. What ever you are taught from birth good or evil that’s all you know. He was taught suffering was normal it looks like to me. Sad regardless
Yeah I thought at first she was just disciplining her kid but the more you listen to this, you realize how sick it is. Paul is nervous, he knows he's being judged, and he's judging himself, maybe really, for the first time. She doesn't deserve a comfortable cell, she deserves a lifetime of hard labor for what she did. Paul deserves a cell and psychiatric help.
@@TakeTheRide couldn't agree more. I just could not imagine doing that to anybody let alone a child I carried and gave birth to... I really try to put myself in someone else's shoes before I pass judgment. I can't for the life of me understand how or why any of this would be acceptable a single time let alone for such a long period of time.
I see him struggling with his memories and looking at his mother with utter hatred. i think he understands completely that hes here to destroy his mother, and thats exactly what he did.
I just went to wash my hands while listening to this had to wait for the water to warm up and couldn't help but think what if I had to get into a tub full of ice water.
This is horrific! You can see how terrified the kid is the way he keeps looking at the mother. I’m wondering why he is in the handcuffs??? She’s abused all her children.
He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
He lied. I saw all the text messages, he was the one who suggested the hot sauce. He did a live on fb saying his brother passed away and didnt care. He said in his text messages he wanted to hit timothy. At the very very beginning (still 2021), Shanda said to Paul "Be nice to him, please !". It still haunts me and I wonder why and how she became that monster knowing that she clearly tried to make Paul be nice with him. What happened ?! Everything escalated so quickly ! She came from nice and not buying his bs from being mean and cooperative with Paul.
EXACTLY, THE amount of people falling for Paul's act is appalling and yep those text messages and initial police interview show you all, you need to know
All humans are endowed from birth with some good in us, Paul may have obeyed his mother once or twice, but when he saw the pain the painnnnnn his BROTHER was experiencing his good side didn't kick in, he could have said no mom don't ask me to do this anymore, at 19yrs old? No way Paul. Teenagers disobey parents all the time,. Paul amp up the torture! Stop making excuses for evil!
@@chicfini it’s called coercive control. The only thing that kicked in for this teenager was fear and it’s all his known all his life. He was going to do what his mother told him to do. He is also a victim in this.
Wow, I can't imagine what we don't know about. It's completely insane. Was she getting off on this in some sadistic way? She needs to be convicted and imprisoned for the rest of her life period. This poor poor child did nothing wrong to die at the hands of his mother.. Rest in peace in God's love..❤ ❤
This is incredibly one of the saddest things I’ve heard. How horrible for these kids. Just seeing this boys eye contact every so often with that monster shows how fearful he is still of her. Just breaks my heart to pieces. I hope he heals and gets all the help he needs.
Don't be fooled this is all an act. Paul was the main torturer and did it with and without prompting from the mother. Go listen to Paul's jailhouse phoncalls and you will head the real Paul. A selfish self absorbed phsycopath who was looking for a doctor to diagnose no him with something. He is gloated that he bullies his autistic cell mate and complaining about the shower not being hot enough and the food not up to his standards. The Judge got it right Paul is a phsycopath and will always be a danger to anyone weaker than him.
You can see him cringe and close his eyes in physical pain and disgust when describing his brother being in an ice bath over night. The most horrific thing I have ever seen.
He was a bully waaay before he moved in with Shanda. He was a willing participant in the torture. He's not autistic or on any type of spectrum. He is evil. He is not afraid of his mother. 🙄
What the hell! This is disgusting. This mother deserves the full extent of the law. I also feel bad for Paul who clearly fears his mother. I don’t understand how people can do this
He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
@@resinfingers3896 You will find many cases of people living in a highly abusive and tyrannical environment like this one going along with harming the weakest person for self-preservation and to please the leader. In this case, the effect is even worse because although he's 20, he's still extremely young and not fully developed, and the "leader" is his own mother. She has even more influence/power over him than someone else might. He is a victim of his mother, who led him down this path. Children are highly impressionable and vulnerable to their parents' influence - whether it be good or bad - especially children who are still technically developing mentally and emotionally. It's not all white and black.
This monster doesn’t deserve to be called a mother. This is one of those cases where I think she should be subjected to the exact same torture that she administered to Timothy. I can’t even wrap my head around how anyone could do this to another person, much less your own child. Paul is a victim of her abuse as well. My heart goes out to anyone under this monster’s thumb. So unbelievably, horrendously cruel. RIP Timothy. I hope Paul gets the therapy he needs to try to undo what Shanda has done to him. 😢💔
I get what you mean but who would be the person to do to her what she did to Timothy. As much as I hate her, I couldn’t do that to anyone or ask anyone to do that. This woman is a demon.
Paul only lived with his mom for two years bro lol. Yall acting like he's been brainwashed over all these years... He lived with his dad until 2020 and Timothy moved into the mom's house the same year he died This was a sudden act not years in the making. He got absued for 6 months.
Agree. I feel Paul has empathy for his little brother. 20 is not very old, yet. Paul dissociated when carrying out his 'mothers' orders, but there were times when his empathy rose to the surface
I can not imagine the horror and torture this poor child went thru. . . And all at the hands of his mother, whose sole job is to love and protect her children. I pray that Timothy is in heaven with his Heavenly Father who loves him beyond measure. Rest in peace dear Timothy.
There is no punishment horrifying enough for this monster mother. She killed one son, and she terrified the other. Paul had a part in what happened to his little brother, but I honestly can’t see how anyone could find him responsible.
She treated that kid less than a dog. Its horrible and you can tell the mom believes she did nothing wrong. Shaking her head like she didnt do that her son is lying
He was brainwashed and abused as well. She made her son abuse his brother, so if the abuse was exposed, then he would face consequences while her hands were clean
Exactly. He spends over an hour telling police they didn't mean to kill Timothy and if the people on UA-cam read the text messages, paul was the one who suggested numerous new torture methods like the hot sause
If I was her defence attorney listening to this I would just stand up and tell her she’s on her own. How anyone can defend the indefensible is beyond me.
This is a clear case Abuse by proxy. This occurs when an abuser uses another person to abuse a victim on their behalf. The abuser can be doing this for a variety of reasons. Abuse by proxy is even more insidious when it happens within a family. In such cases the abusive parent will commonly use their children to abuse their sibling(s).
He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
@@resinfingers3896hi. Whats with all of the cut and paste responses? Are you one of those lazy bots? Zero intellect. Just blah, blah, blah? Waiting with bated breath for your scintillating response.
You have no understanding of such abuse. There had to be times it was not safe for him to provide food. Fear is a powerful, driven experience. Thank your God you have never experienced the situation.
Don't believe him. He was complicit in all of this. Watch his police interview. He hit his brother without instruction from his mother. At school, he was a cruel person. He is only nervous because he is testifying against his mother as he knows he willingly committed everything to that Timothy. Don't believe this act.
My heart aches for Paul. He was a victim too. He doesn't need jail...he needs deep therapy, and a safe life. I hope the court/jury/specialists can see this.
I agree. I said the same thing. Prison is not where he belongs. Therapy and lots and lots of love. This is so typical with victims of abuse. They do what they are told because they are afraid the abuser will do the same to them if they don't comply. My heart goes out to this young man.
This poor baby needs to be out of jail and handcuffs. My God, what he endured along with Timothy. It's horrendous how he keeps looking at her in fear. I hope the women she's locked up with give her what she greatly deserves.
@@pamw9966Do you realize in order for someone to deliver prison justice means they spend up to a year in solitary and have no contact with their own children and family plus lose any good time built up so they will be in jail for extra months to years? So I hope you say nice things about prisoners and advocate for them having rights like clean water and not being chained to a bed while in labor. Otherwise why would Nancy who's got two years for theft risk it all everytime you feel extra upset about a crime. Maybe YOU could deliver justice seeing how most defendants aren't in jail while they fight the charges. I think it's so crazy people wish horrible abuse on every inmate but also want that inmate to be the hand of justice. Are the inmates animals who deserve abuse or are they like-minded people who deserve human rights? Or maybe you just think they are animals here to carry out your desires? Do it yourself you could actually get away with it.
This is heartbreaking. School districts need to implement a way of checking on children who are home schooled. Too often, abused children are taken out of school so the parents can hide the abuse.
Unfortunately some public schools aren’t much better. Just recently at two different districts teachers have been found guilty of abusing special need children. It’s pitiful
@@iamagainstyourpillows5162m I haven’t seen any photos, so I wouldn’t know. I just started with this and find it horrifying. I believe in protection our kids no matter what the case and no matter what it takes. It’s horrifying
People who say he was a victim I am not buying it. His body language reads as if he is ashamed of his behavior. He admits to also watching and reporting back when she was not available to monitor the brother. He could have easily feed and not reported “bad” behavior .
Paul could have called CPS or 911 any time. He didn't have to tell her when Timothy "stole" food or walked around. He put him in an icebath multiple times.
I was abused horrendously during my childhood I have physical and emotional scars and you would never ever in a million years see me hurt my siblings in any sort of way! So I don't want to hear that he's been abused too whaaa whaaaa cry me a River! WTF CARES! It's people and opinions like you that make it possible for people like this to go free and then abuse their own kids when they have them!
@jturtle5318 oh I 100% agree. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be punished. Abuse is weird though. Control is weird. Fear is weird. Paul doesn't seem very socialized either and if he's grown up seeing this behavior he could think its normal. Again. Not an excuse, but a possible explanation
@TALLDRINKUVWATER first of all relax. Idk if you read my other reply to the other person or not but I said he still needed to be punished. Sometimes part of someone's abuse is being forced, coerced or threatened into abusing others. You can know that it's wrong, and still do it if you're in fear of it happening to you, or them getting an even worse punishment if you refuse. Psychological abuse IS abuse.
This is absolutely heartbreaking. You can tell that this young man has been through extensive abuse and manipulation himself. I truly hope that when he is sentenced that the court has empathy and sees how much she controlled him. You can tell while he is testifying how terrified of that monster he is. I hope he’s able to be rehabilitated in someway and use his experience to honor his brothers memory, and do something positive in the future.
You're totally correct. When I first heard of his age being 20 I thought why didn't he do more to help? After seeing him and his demeanor I can tell he has a disability and is petrified. The mother fed off of his disability to control him.
I'm not easily rattled, but this really got to me. A special needs kid, who already doesn't quite understand the world, lived in absolute hell, then died. His last months on the earth were spent in agony and torture. Just awful.
This guy has clearly been abused by his mother all his life as well. Very sad to see this on both of their parts. I wish the jail would only feed Shanda hot sauce bread.
@@resinfingers3896right, so he was abused for 2 years then - is that not long enough? How long does he need to be in a psychotic, abusive, evil home with an extremely evil controlling parent in your opinion? Not to mention, who knows what his life was like with his father?Doesn’t matter, either way - the kid definitely has some cognitive issues and is very likely autistic, himself & was easily influenced/ manipulated by his MOTHER.
@@randikenthank you for the interjection of objective reason. I appreciate you. P.S.- I'm autistic and know first hand that this is far more common than is currently acknowledged in "polite" society.
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Really no excuses don’t care if she was abused so she does it worse to her kids should not have given her the privilege to have kids
This is fake 29:31 the laughing in background shows the editing as well as the timing and no judge would allow this in court or on this type of case maybe I report this site to BBB
@@MichelleFrisbie-ug3ntwhat are you on about?
@@MichelleFrisbie-ug3ntbetter business bureau??? Lmao you should do that 😂😂😂
@MichelleFrisbie-ug3nt are you insane saying it's fake you live in a bubble
The horror in some people’s homes is unbelievable. Poor innocent children
And we only learn of the cases that erupt into the news. How many other children are in daily agony - unknown victims of parental cruelty? The daily - hourly - torture that this poor child had to endure before death came to rescue him is unimaginable: we hear the words but the reality is beyond words.
It's awful. I grew up in the "inner city" and the things I've seen are absolutely heartbreaking. So many Ppl are horrific "parents" 😔 (before & after being born).
😢😢@@rogcat7181
This is what I think about too. You never know what is happening behind closed doors. It could be happening at your neighbors, in your neighborhood, in your town and no one would know until the ultimate tragedy happens and the police get involved. It kills me to think that there’s children suffering right now. About 10 minutes from me AJ Freund was murdered by his disgusting birth giver and his sperm donor took his tiny body and buried him in a field in the next town over before reporting him missing. No one knew what was happening. DCFS was notified by the local ER doctor because he had huge bruises and DCFS dropped the ball. One of those workers was just convicted. One was not.
I just said the same things. "The things that people do in their homes" ugh
The added layer of her not only torturing her son but conditioning her other son to participate in it is just.. I have no words. This whole thing is so sick
So beyond understanding..and yes, quite evil.
Let's not leave out the crippled old man upstairs hollering and directing a good bit of this cruelty.
Whenever the need to control took over the love, that's when things went for a ride on the crazy train to perdition 😪
@@justawaitress8421The old man wasn't there, please try to follow along.
Absolutely. She tortured both of these boys, just in different ways. I hope Paul gets the help he clearly needs, and has an opportunity to live some of his life in a normal way.
The word that escapes you is "evil".
This young man clearly has an intellectual disability and the mother making him torture his younger brother is heartbreaking and pure evil.
Not sure if Paul's disability is actually intellectual or emotional. Their mother was a complete MONSTER
@@truthseeker6370as an autistic person myself, and based on the fact that autism, adhd, and such run in families, I'd be willing to bet that he's also autistic. Just with lower support needs. Either way, he's clearly scared of his mother.. 😢
@@trevaenglish1542 yes, I agree. He seems intelligent enough, but his answers make me think that he could very well have autism. I have been watching this video with the zoom right up close to his face and his hands when visible and I don't have any doubt whatsoever that he's scared of his mother. I see he got convicted too. I hope that his case is appealed quickly and successfully.
@@trevaenglish1542autistic and agree
My boy is autistic I understand it's a big spectrum however my son is high functioning and he could never sit n quietly articulate the way this poor boy is he's not autistic id spot that a mile away
This mother had a law degree and worked in the court system! No wonder our justice system is so unfair
How did she work when she was always watching cameras and texting Paul to torture I wonder what her co workers think about her now
it would take minutes @@deborahtemple2542
I don't think her law degree has anything to do with this, she was just evil and disgusting...It seems she was over her head and this poor guy, who has some sort of disability was her pawn
What was wrong with this lady?? Why on earth did she treat this boy this way? Was she unable to handle his disability?? Why?? Why?? Where had he been before he lived with them??😊
Yea that is sooo true. Michigan justice system is messed up.
I simply cannot wrap my head around how lonely and unloved this child felt...
No child anywhere should feel what this child did
He remembers the acts .
I simply cant watch this evil. Cause i know congress doesnt work but covering up there own .
Unfathomable terror and fear. No one can imagine it. Let alone do something like that.
I can’t get over the fact a 15 year old boy put up with this , how long was he starved? I know most 15 year olds fight back. Did they also drug him?
Never have I wanted someone to get messed up so bad in prison as this woman.
She had been repeatedly raped by her father by the age of 8 to 12. He had also been charged for molestering other children including her sister. These cycles of abuse in families must stop
I thght I was alone. I don't believe in cruelty even when it comes to monsters but this broad OMG ....
I agree, her and Gabriel Fernandez mother
She will woman Huron Bally is the only prison in Michigan
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All of this makes me think about all of the children being tortured which no one knows about. Beyond gut wrenching and heart breaking.
I agree
Right... happening right this very moment and no one's helping. Too bad there isn't some invisible being that sees all, to stop abusers
This may be a controversial opinion, but this is why I'm wary of Homeschooling. It allows a parent to hide a child for their entire lives, never showing their children to anybody. Had she been required to send Timothy to school, the abuse would have been immediately evident.
Yes reminds me of my experiences.....alot goes on behind closed doors
Its sad i can four different trials / deaths right off the top of my head just by browsing and then watching them on youtube. You’re right… I can’t even begin to imagine what we haven’t seen or heard of.
The potential for this type of abuse to go unchecked for so long is what scares me the most about homeschooling.
I completely agree. I’ve just finished reading up on Takoda Collins which led me here.
In Canada today at public school a child can change their name and gender without even telling their parents. If the parents think their child is being groomed and complain, they can be jailed, fined, have their children abducted by child protective services and then the child can get hormone blockers, and surgery even though they can't drive a car, get a piercing or a tattoo or vote. There is no where safe for kids these days.
I'd be interested in knowing the statistics about how long abuse went on before being discovered for both publicly schooled and home schooled kids. I suspect that home schooled kids endured abuse longer before discovery.
I made a comment on a previous post about this man and his mother wishing the worst for both without seeing this one. Now I feel sorry because it’s clear that this man has been influenced. Yes he is a grow man but has struggled a hell of a lot. She should take the maximum amount of penalties for this. He obviously is accountable BUT has suffered also. She has taken advantage. So sad 😞 it’s rly so so sad x
it doesn't really matter if you go to school. 😅 i know of so many people who have been severly abused who went to school and noone ever cared.
The way this kid keeps glancing toward his mother in fear is heartbreaking
But wrong is wrong
I don’t think he’s scared of her but scared for her AND himself.
@@jennam3892no, he is scared to make sure he is doing what SHE WANTS. He is scared of her.
@@TheScream2023so is self-righteousness, hypocrisy, and victim blaming.
This older brother knew exactly what he was doing too!! He has to know this was wrong!! He needs life in prison too !
She is not a mother, she is a monster!
Rest easy little man.
It is a simple way of looking at undesirable behavior in people. Imagine if people are just so complex, that we have both desirable and also cruel sides within us. That doesn't mean the act can be justified but we are still human. If we are to find some kind of reconciliation in humanity, maybe we need to start there.
As a father of three, I do admit I get angry and frustrated… BUT the thought of inflicting pain or not feeding my children doesn’t cross my mind.
You do make a valid point though..
@Heretoskate1 I am a father of four, and for me, it's so far out that a parent can do what she did. I have myself never "punished" my kids for "misbehaving."
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She may be human but no humanity there. She has no good sides. The world will always have contrast, yes. The good, the bad, and complex good mixed with bad. That woman is bad. That woman is a monster. She can not be reconciled.
Adding insult to injury, she pleads not guilty. Forcing her son to testify. Sadistic in the extreme.
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She was probably hoping he'd screw it up and result in a hung jury or a mistrial.
Narcissist. They have no empathy and only feel for themselves.
This case reminds me so much of the book “A Boy Called It”. The authors mother chose him to be the main recipient of her sadistic abuse and used his older siblings to also perpetuate abuse against him because they feared for themselves and the mother always manipulated them to believe that their younger brother was bad and deserved everything he was getting. They were abusers but they were manipulated to be abusers by their mother and to a much lesser degree they were also abused by her. They also had no reason to think their mother’s behavior was abnormal. Truly a sickening story of just literal evil torture of a child who couldn’t defend himself.
I was thinking of that book the whole time as well, it’s eerily similar. it’s extremely disturbing to see that case replicated, and to think of how much it’s being replicated without our knowing. it makes me sick, i hope that poor baby is at peace 💔
The brother Richard Pelzer wrote a book as well "A Brother's Journey" where he corroborated everything (and more) that was in "A Child Called 'It' ".
I love that book
I also read that book so heartbreaking
He is so traumatized and brainwashed. I feel bad for him. His terrified glances at his mother speaks volumes..
My heart just breaks for him. He's a victim too
A willing participant,lady...Or did I miss as him being mentally disabled too?
His facial twitches seem like he has some kind of neurological disorder
@@barbaralerm9310 if you look at his face throughout, he’s twitching, making nervous smiles. I believe he has mental or neurological issues
He said in a statement why didn't you help him and he said I guess I didn't love him. He was actually working a job he could have notified anybody at any time to save his brother's life.
How disturbing. She is beyond evil. And works in the court system. Let that sink in.
I 🙏that they get help for this poor kid. God help him.
Indeed...she might have become a judge someday 😨
There are so many predators in positions of authority. Sadists gravitate to those positions.
@@earthcat😮 Then we wonder about the evil in the world!
You gotta wonder if she was judging the criminals while she worked in court. I’ve been a criminal in this very court, she probably scribed my case. (Just driving stuff)
He is clearly a victim of abuse too. This kid is heartbreaking.
I’m watching this thinking the same. Only a few minutes in I’m watching this “this is a vulnerable adult”. This doesn’t seem right but…
Absolutely. This young man is obviously on the spectrum. And you can tell he is still afraid of that woman.
Absolutely. The level of trauma and abuse is terrible. Parents are supposed to be caregivers and take care of us. We're supposed to feel safe around them. You can't possibly feel safe around someone ordering you to help her torture your sibling. He can't probably trust anyone else now too. He's going to need therapy for years, maybe more than a decade.
Paul was his mothers henchman. Paul took pleasure in being extremely evil to Paul.
@@chicfini I Believe him and his mother need a life without parole sentence
He is not innocent, before he even lived with his mother, he lived with his half-sister who testified that he was a Big Bully. They wanted to test him for sociopath but couldn't until he was 18. He is not innocent, sure mom is more guilty but he is too.
@@ashleylove6840 that's good to know. I was really feeling bad for him.
I thought I'd hate this man, yet I feel incredibly sorry for him. He too is a victim.
Exactly. They were denied a normal, loving mother. A need so basic it goes through the heart and cuts to the very soul.
She probably starved him too if he didn't obey.
Wrong is wrong.
@@isobella2303And exactly who did he have in his life to teach him right from wrong? Or protect him? What a nasty comment.
@EXACTLY aquariusmoon771
My son is non verbal and autistic. I can’t even begin to imagine a young boy with this set of disabilities being treated like this- let alone anyone for that matter !! He had no idea and chance of what love really looks like. Hearing the cruel torture to this young boy breaks my heart / brought me to tears. How can anyone live with themselves after committing such heinous acts?!? He was punished for being tired, hungry, and moving. I’m surprised they allowed him to breathe. And to make her other son participate in this is psychologically effed up. He sees first hand what could happen to him the moral standing against fear had to have caused so much trauma and skewed his own moral compass and understanding . His own family tortured the helpless boy literally to death. I am the voice for my son - I am his biggest advocate. To think his voice and guide in this world killed him for merely being alive. He died in pain-and all alone. I pray his spirit is at rest and peace now.
Come on.....!!! this brother was fully aware of his actions.. the punishment and torture Timothy endured and suffered from the hands of his mother and brother's brutal treatment is criminal.
Always seems these brilliant academics are nuts.
Whenever the need to control took over the love for the child, that's when things went for a ride on the crazy train to perdition 😪
He actually got called a dummy and got told off for "breathing wrong" (thru his mouth). She even took away his access to medication and medical care
What a twisted monster she is.
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This kid is terrified and is looking to anyone for confirmation that he is doing the correct thing. He has been beaten down his whole life by her- that is clearly evident
I totally agree 💯
saddens me to no end.
I agree. My heart is hurting for him. He is so terrified. He can't stop looking at his mother. He has been mentally abused his whole life, imo. What an evil woman she is.
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I agree, I feel so hurt for him. I don’t know exactly what he did, but I don’t think I could say he was guilty of much.
He could have easily told someone at work, or called the authorities. He knew right from wrong.
You’ve obviously never been in an abusive relationship. You are brainwashed into fearing your abuser and their punishment
this is not how the brain of a traumatised person works.
if she abused him the same way she abused Tim, since they were babies, then it's normal that he told no one.
Exactly my thoughts! No excuse.
@@MadinaTall-f9w, no, he wasn't ! You obviously skipped half of it! No excuse for Paul torturing his brother, he did it far more than his mother!
@@MadinaTall-f9wnah, i wouldn’t say that’s normal. Normal is protecting your younger sibling. I’m speaking as someone who was abused and traumatized, by a parent and step-parent, and who has diagnosed c-ptsd. I stood up for my younger brother (2.5 years younger) when I was much younger than Paul (starting around the age of 8/9) MANY times. I stood up for him against physical violence and at the threat of, and execution of, other extreme punishments (not nearly as extreme as Timothy had to endure however). I’m also diagnosed with ASD (high functioning) so mental disorders aren’t an excuse either, as I’ve seen other commenters use that alongside Paul being afraid himself. I’d fight my parent(s) to the death before I allowed even a fraction of this torture to take place, let alone participate in it.
No one’s trauma/ reaction to trauma is the same so ofc my experiences don’t define everyone else’s, but it’s a false narrative that fear overrides love/ morals, or is an excuse to behave so cruelly. Paul even said he didn’t love Timothy enough. He feels bad cause he knows it was wrong and he should have done something sooner, and if he knows it’s wrong, then there’s no excuse for him to not get help or TRY. Even if he was afraid in the moment and that made him complacent, he would have gotten help or tried to if he felt bad and loved his brother.
Seeing that lady shaking her head makes my blood boil.
It makes me feel very conflicted when a parent makes a child an accessory, especially if the child accomplice has a learning disability. She coerced, bullied, and brainwashed him. She was always watching. She forced this kid to torture his brother, while wanting him to think she was always watching. This whole thing makes me so mad. She couldn't be a mom, she had to be a jailer too. Kids trust their parents, they want to please them and be accepted. When a parent forces hell on their kids, there are only victims.
I thought she would be shaking her head because he was lying, and thought maybe he did some of this by his own initiative
I literally just said the SAME exact thing about her shaking her head! I just wanted to jump through the screen so bad. how DARE she act like that when her child’s life was literally lost… disgusting.
WELL SAID 😢
Makes me sick he was put in prison over this because of this mother and he was tortured too.
Yep didn't it just irk you!! Her chewing that gum,,like if she was so special since she use to work in that courthouse,,burned my ass too. I was so glad when that Judge put a stop to that!!
She thought of everything to torture her son, down to making sure his body position in the ice bath provided him no relief whatsoever from discomfort. The level of hatred for him is incomprehensible.
Did they mention why the mother hated the victim son so much?? She s a pure evil 👿
She definitely didn't want him .tried to give him to the father, father gave him back then she tortured him 😢that poor kid.
she had gotten in trouble with CPS in another jurisdiction. She had already abused him and his dad sent him back to the monster@@recuerdos2457
@@recuerdos2457 you just answered your own question. Some people are just evil. Nothing else matters.
@@recuerdos2457I think she is very insecure about her own intelligence (in her testimony videos you can tell that her education and mental capacity is very important to her) and she resented and hated her own children for having disabilities/disorders that limited or challenged their intellectual abilities. I think she looked down on them and thought they were useless and stupid
He is clearly on the Autism Spectrum and was doing EXACTLY what his mother told him to do.
He is a victim as well. He breaks my heart.
Did he not receive help either???
I know he's very much a victim as well.
He didn't know it was wrong??
@@awkwardautistic and what is right and wrong? It is what you are taught as right or wrong. For some people euthanasia is wrong for others it is the right thing to do in some cases. It is a belief, an idea, it is not an absolute... What you are referring to is "having empathy towards others". That is something completely different. Any person with empathy towards others would indeed not do this, because they don't want to inflict pain on others... And maybe he was afraid of what his mother was capable of. This is a very complex thing for us to understand. And to be honest, I don't think we are capable of understanding what this kind of environment does to you. It's is not excuse, but I believe it is more complex than just black or white, there is a whole spectrum of different greys in between...
No, this boy knows right from wrong that is why he agreed to the PLEA!! He is guilty as she is and both are evil murderers !! Had the child in the closet, cameras on him, starving him, cold baths, no Doctors, no medicine, home school, hand cuffs…. pure evil and I hope they both get INMATE JUSTICE!!
He keeps looking over at his mother, still terrified. He committed crimes but I hope the judge will be merciful and include intense therapy as part of his sentence. Paul is a victim here. That woman is the devil.
Same
😢
@@coll4455. Exactly , somebody should stand in front of her . He’s intimidated
Poor thing
@@kimmie1957I kept hoping the lawyer would do that, he’s clearly intimidated and doing his best. You can clearly see him beating himself up for not helping his brothers, for not standing up to his mother even though he was being abused as well.
I hope his sentence isn’t harsh but includes a TON of therapy and they bury her under the jail.
Paul might be 'a' victim, but he's sure as hell not THE victim here. A boy is DEAD, and it happened as a direct consequence of Paul's actions, an adult with a job who frequently and enthusiastically texted his mom about wanting to torture and kill Timothy, exchanging conspiracy theories that Timothy was 'faking it', etc. It's outrageous that people are feeling sorry for a child murderer who turned state's witness to avoid a murder charge himself.
I’m sure he has been abused his whole life. His teeth are terrible and he looks malnourished. If he didn’t follow orders he probably got the same treatment. He sounds articulate and intelligent. She’s ruined all of her children’s lives and even killed one.
And I'm wondering how the stepfather got the stroke? Don't you have trouble talking after a stroke?
@@deadmanswife3625stroke is cause by many things high blood pressure, cholesterol, diabetes, there are degrees of stroke, not all cause speech loss!
@Donnellx1Okafor yes
I agree, when they asked him who decided that the poor boy was overeating I was looking at him and thinking I bet he genuinly has no idea what a regular full diet looks like because he is so clearly unhealthily underwieght. There is nondoibt in my mind this young man was awfully neglacted a d abused by his mother aswell.
Well I guess I haven't heard yet why he didn't leave He's old enough to leave He worked as a dishwasher He should have reported this because it was inevitable It was going to kill his brother and maybe even him I guess that's just brainwashing though you know sometimes you get brainwashed and if she raised them since they were little then he's been brainwashed you know. Lots of people that are in colts and have been brainwashed don't report things
Here is a prime example of a mother who has created a potential criminal within Paul. I do hope charges are brought against her for abusing Paul as well. I hope Paul can find good supportive help and recover from this horrible upbringing. Why OK would just drop follow up because she moved out of state is beyond broken. It's criminal. Children cannot, SHOULD NOT be victims of bureaucracy BS.
So true. How many cases like this have we seen of abusive parents being given permission for Home Schooling and no follow-up. Not everyone who does that is criminal. But those with questionable behavior, arrest records, should not be given this right.
Both are criminals, and both should be given prison, no doubt about it!
He still should have know better he looks old enough to know right from wrong 😢
@@leyzza40how would he know right from wrong being raised by that? Truly. Thats his normal.
He wasn’t isolated his entire life, he should have known better. He is also to blame for the torture and death of his brother.
She is a f’n monster. At this point what was he even being punished for? If food was locked what were the infractions? There were none - it was just torture plain and simple. If only this was HER treatment in prison.
I have a fifteen year old son with autism. I got him early help at age two, he's now in tenth grade on the honor roll and all the teachers praise about how respectful and kind he is. I could never imagine being so cruel to another human being let alone my own son!! Pure evil.
That is awesome. My 5 year old is autistic but unfortunately because of covid it took just a year to diagnose him and he has been in speech and OT for 2 years and just got accepted into ABA. I hope it helps
@@lenacheneyABA is amazing especially if received at school and home within 8 months my son has seen amazing progress
❤
I know, right!
❤ God bless your loving and compassionate heart. Your son's achievements is the result of what a wonderful mother and human person you are.
Paul doesn’t need jail. He needs lots of therapy and a safe place to live.
Amen so sad
He’ll have a safer place in jail than he created for his brother. Did you hear the text messages?
Nah, he was an adult who had a job. He's using words like reiterate, & induce.
He says he knew the child didn't like eating things with hot sauce and refused to pour hot sauce on the kids genitals ( he wore a diaper and prob had sores and rashes).... All signs that he knew what he was doing was dead wrong.
Sounds like this abuse didn't start until the special needs kid came to live w/them and after the step father had the stroke. They say the kid was chubby when he came to live with them.
This isn't some long standing abuse. This is them not being able to handle the child with special needs.
Think of how many teens get charged as adults for their crimes this guy was an actual adult yet y'all wanna treat him like a child.
He knew it was dead wrong to do what he was doing he knew it was a form of punishment/discipline
I have no sympathy for this child abuser.
@@moriordan85bloodthirsty
@@moriordan85 if you know what those words mean, then you know that he was using them incorrectly. He clearly has some cognitive deficiencies. Simply repeating “big words” doesn’t mean that he can understand them. He wasn’t able to answer very simple questions unless they were REPHRASED (that would be the appropriate word to use, reiterate means to repeat; rephrase means to say in another way).
This kid has been just as victimized as his brother who died. I have nothing but empathy for him. The person you should detest is the monster sitting in the defendants seat. This kid needs therapy in a locked in environment until he has built skills to live in a group home, and then slowly moved to the outside world. All he is guilty of is trying to not get his mother’s attention and suffer her wrath too.
He is so gaunt and afraid. He was someone who was constantly having to obey his mother- I can’t even imagine how hard it was for him to testify against her. But it was so impactful that he did.
@@elaineg5749she did. You can tell by hid behavior.
His hands say so much. He doesn't know what to do with his hands. He is so intimidated by that woman. He has no self-confidence and he's ashamed of what he has done to his brother, now that the truth is being brought into the light. Sad. Just sad.
He is habdcuffed@@TakeTheRide
God don’t feel sorry for him do your research he’s as complicit as her
He is not. Open your mind.
How the hell did this go on for so long and no one in that extended family intervene? Or his teachers? How did no one notice?
How did nobody know
Exactly
He was homeschooling and not allowed to go outside
Homeschooling, being cuffed to a bed, and many teachers spoke out and cared about his well-being. Not sure if im confusing cases, but if I remember correctly one let him use the shower
This woman's pathological cruelty and absence of empathy is mindbending
Why? She’s just doing what whites have always done in this country
Well said I agree 💯👍
Well she was a law clerk.
There’s worse out there too. The ruling class are genocidal
Narcissist, sociopath! This world Is falling apart!
The fact he sent his mother a picture of Timothy’s body expressing concern for his well being, shows that he has empathy and is not a sociopathic monster like his mother. I hope he gets some serious therapy and support.
100% agree
exactly. that will be his saving grace. along with the fact he asked his mom to call 911 right away and she said NO. he wanted to help, but she had all the control
He was severely brainwashed. It will take a lot of therapy to heal from such extreme abuse.
Of course he noticed the boy was skinny…..his not an idiot ! It’s nothing about emphasizing….he was smart enough to advise his mother that he was starving and that he would find himself involved in the torture !
I bet the Mom maybe needed someone to talk to you before the violence I occurred. I got charm, I maybe could have charmed her and stopped her. You never know. Someone told me, "Young man you are naive thinking you got the magic charm to cure "Deadly Women" I told one of my friends he's in his 50's (I'm 33 yrs of age right now myself) that I wanted to be kidnapped by a group of Sorority Sisters. He said "Be careful dude, your weakness is Women".
"Don't get seduced & fall on the Web "
Imagine listening to this, knowing your child is dead because of your abuse, shaking your head and taking notes like this lady. She has no humanity and that “panic attack” was a show because this testimony is far worse than the texts being read out loud.
Where did you see the footage of her while this young man was testifying? Is that when that POS had her "episode?"
Thanks for the info...
@@Claudia-lq3ns couple times but one is at @22:13 onward
Hitler can have a real physiological panic attack. The cultural prevalence of one's conduct is not determine whether once panic attack is getting feigned or not..
She does not care one bit. The only reason she is worried is because she got caught, but there is no remorse imo
@@sarahte8154 Got it!! Thanks so much! Ugh.. this woman is pure evil
He showed no empathy for that child,and had plenty of opportunities to so. He came up with other ways to inflict pain on that poor child.
@@jonathanowens9983 he wanted momma to love him.
But so did Timothy 😓
That Young man shows clearly that he is on the spectrum too. He needs a psychologist. The fact that he had no empathy, did not call for help +++. and did his mothers bidding. She knew that he would follow everything she said. Thank gawd the judge saw it too, and asked after if was diagnosed with other things?. He definitely has Autism.
This young man clearly has special needs, as well. This woman conditioned him to carry out her torture. In no way should he be held accountable. This is a whole different kind of parental abuse. This kid is clearly traumatized by what he was forced to do. His shame is strong enough to sense through the phone screen. Yet, the mother feels justified. Worse, she went to law school. She knew how to manipulate the system and hide the evidence. I feel physical pain and deep grief for both the child who died and for the child forced to assist in his brother's death. May she get the maximum punishment.
I dont think he has special needs, he just seems to have a low IQ.
I agree, this is so sad to watch.
He's going to have to live with the guilt for the rest of his life. It's absolutely disgusting she did this to her entire family.
I agree. When he looks defiantly toward her as he answers some of the questions you can see he is trying to take control back from her. He may have felt more important at first being in charge but you can see he has mental disabilities. Whatever he is she has designed him to be such. No mother would do this to her babies, and her high intelligence is so disturbing. I can’t even imagine how she makes this right with herself. I hope she gets what she deserves and someone takes it upon themselves to rehabilitate this young man. He should not have been living this way.
Did they say he had special needs or something? I might've missed that, because he doesn't seem to have any special needs at all based on this testimony
Her continually shaking her head ‘no’ while pursing her lips, during his testimony, is equivalent to witness tampering. She knows she still strikes fear in her son- she is a horrendous person.
I feel so bad for even Paul. You can tell he has also been abused and conditioned to starve himself. He was so uncomfortable when talking about the weights and when he described Timothy as being "chubby" when he first arrived he looked over to see the reactions and then had to hug himself basically to calm down. Then when he heard that Timothy was supposedly going on a hunger strike (a lie) you could see the anger in his face that his mother would even think to make that lie. I'm not even 15 minutes in, and I'm shaken, really.
I couldn't help but cry when he said he had to sneak the meal that he cooked for fear of getting in trouble.
The amount of torture this woman put her children through is so sick and to do this to someone with special needs is even more horrific.
I hope this vile woman is only fed bread with hot sauce in prison...
His looks toward her is anger and disgust not much as fear anymore. Hes embarrassed to answer these questions in front of these people because of her. I hope he feels some relief telling on her. She didn't care about this son either.😢
I'd be ok with Shanda just getting Carolina Reaper hot sauce, no bread 🤷🏼♀️
Definitely shows he also has been abused
Paul had to please his “ mother” to survive He is also a victim here
@@schmimzyif even in her mouth, reminds me of the Takota case. AL ugh just ugh and the girlfriend who went along with it .. and her sister who got 8 years but I think she was half responsible she was slow but not that slow she was scared too, where she told on Takota because she was scared of AL too the whole case is sick. The leg of the chair thing I vomited, he was r*ping him, and the bending down touching his toes for hours.. having to eat whatever they gave him that way…. but the jumping out the attic SMALL window speaks volumes like a horror movie… just trying to get away, only to be given right back 😔😣😢
I don’t know anything about this case but it’s clear that something is not right with this kid. I’d say Timothy wasn’t the only one who was being abused in that house
This case is beyond horrific! Hearing his brother describe what was done to Timothy makes me sick to my stomach. 🤢 I’ve heard a lot of different abuse cases.. but this one is one of the worst! RIP Timothy!🙏
I’m sobbing!!!!!
Actually I’m sickened, I can’t work... I’m just praying for all these kids everywhere this maybe happening now! Poor poor darling Timothy 😢😭😭😭
PS when I was very young a family tortured a visitor who rented. The sick evil mother was Gertrude Baniszewski. I believe Shanda Vanderbilt Ark & Gertrude are soul mates
I couldn't even watch til the end. Im só só shocked and disgusted! Why why are people só bad! 😢😢😢😢😢
@@lulucestmoi8797I use to think that there’s good in everyone.. but that simply isn’t true. Unfortunately there are very evil people in this world.
He listens so literally to every word, he’s been so traumatized to get every answer and word right. I went through some home horrors but this guy has so much trauma from his own survival. He’s not a sociopath, he was terrified and his mother gave him reason to believe it’d be him if he wasn’t the one doing it.
The literal thing is an Austism feature
Had she somehow gotten away with this, either he or The younger one probably would have been next :(
And just look at how he reacts when he has a minor error like nodding/shaking his head instead of verbalizing yes/no. Regardless of what has gone on, this is a man who has been severely traumatized by his mother, this is someone who is extremely scared of saying or doing the wrong thing, and this is someone whose behavior has been under surveillance and scrutiny. He has such clear guilt and discomfort for what happened. At the end of the day he never would have done this if he wasn't in this bizarre reality his mother constructed. Wow this video is devastating to watch. And Shaunda is over there just shaking her head in contempt that he isn't smart enough to lie as well as she does. Wow.
Not all the time, his facebook is telling different story. He is not innocent. What his mother would do thim? Make him to eat the hot sauce? Timothy was sitting in the icy bathtub for 4 hours the day before he died. Why? The instruction from his mother were 30 min. He is a monster, he killed his brother as well as his mother, duo from hell.
@@saskia315 what's his Facebook
Paul is just as evil as his mother. He bullied his brother Timothy his whole life. Paul only lived with his mother from 18 to 20. Paul was evil long before he moved in with his mother. They are two peas in a pod. Paul needs to be locked up and the key thrown away. He committed these crimes as an adult as well!
I think he just wanted to stay on his mother's good side
Thank God. IM sick of people defending Paul,
@@jacqueburriss263and I think you're a child ab*se apologist
@@Tyr_Of_Justice nobody is defending him. You can clearly tell he was mentally abused by her and probably physically as well. Look how thin he is. She is a monster. And used her own son to carry out fucked up acts by manipulation and torture. He is definitely also a victim though. Who knows what she has done to him to make him so afraid to go to police.
I’m having such a hard time watching this. This woman is an absolute monster. Any kids raised by her need help. Paul is a victim as well.
He looks emaciated himself!
I am too! 😢😨
It's been hard for me to follow this case too.
@@britneyfanvideosflI literally said the same thing!
@@sarahkeller7630not as hard as it’s been for the kids
This is beyond cruel. She worked in the COURT HOUSE, so she is well educated. She is pure EVIL.
That's the type of employment these people tend to get into as it's all about power over other people.
politicians, police, judges, doctors, educators. child protection.
both are
She graduated second in class at her law school and she passed bar exam with a very high score, but still made tons of incriminating text messages.
It isn't uncommon for narcissists to be caught in such a manner; they believe they can outsmart everyone.
😂
Even on the stand, Paul looks terrified of his mother.
Agreed. This boy is also a victim of her. He looked terrified mentioning he made food for his brother and didn’t want her to know.
He looks so malnourished himself. So sad you can still see the fear in his face.
I don’t see fear lol
It's awful to watch 😢
And the abuse he's suffered can be seen in his physical appearance. However he could have went for help. He could have told someone.
These poor children. How can a mother be so cruel?
It’s beyond belief 😢
Unless you’ve ever lived with an abusive parent who you feared, no one can fully understand Paul’s involvement. I can almost 100% say that he was abused most of his life. He didn’t dare disobey his mother. For emotional abuse is almost more devastating as physical abuse. I hope this kid gets the help he deserves, and gets no jail time. Counceling hopefully will be sufficient… he had empathy for his brother… he deserves it back. I’m so sorry for what he was forced to do.
I think he should be sent to a hospital to get therapy and recover. I don't think this poor kid deserves jail.
Funny how you whites always have sympathy for your own as if this guy didn’t know right from wrong 🤦♂️
I agree with everything you said. I almost cried watching this brother on the stand.
Heck, I am a full grown adult and that lady already scares me to death. Can't imagine beeing a child to her.
Yeah I’m sickened by all the people being ignorant in the comments , it’s not like he gets away with it , he did also do harm and should be held accountable. But context matters, it’s clear that he’s been manipulated and scared of his mother his entire life. I also think he’s a neurodiverse person himself, it’s not shocking she got him to do her dirty work and he did it to please her.
He looks malnutritioned as well
He’s not. They get plenty of food in prison and jail. Just his body type
@@Heavyisthecrown😂
He looks like someone who has some disability too.
Mentally maybe.
Yes, he would be handsome if he was not raised by a monster
Yesssss
Woman is a monster. This is so horrible. Please don't let this woman out of prison. Heartbreaking!
Monsters create monsters.
I'm pretty sure her childhood wasn't any better.
Because she never knew anything else, that was normal for her.
Unfortunately, that is the sad truth.
@@Peter-y7j1v There are millions of people who have been abused by their families yet they did not turn out to be monsters like this woman.
@@Peter-y7j1v It is quite possible.
Will the father was no angel he he participated probably at least by ignoring the situation situation. I wonder if they'll ask this kid how does he feel about doing those things and did anybody do that stuff to him? 😢
Until we find out how this kid felt while this is going on there's really no thing. We need to know this to see if he will be a menace to society. Right now he's probably testifying to get a reduced sentence. He will need a lot of love and counseling to be able to love himself again after she forced him to do these things.. ❤😢
Stop defending the brother. He is able to comprehend and know right from wrong. He's just as 3vil as his mother. Rest in Heaven, Timothy.
Exactly, he wasn't even raised by his mother until very recently. He held a job and the text messages show paul making fun of Timothy
Thank you
My heart is breaking for Paul. As a mum of 5 to hear what this evil woman manipulated Paul into doing is just devastating.
I have no children but I feel the same...
No really it made me cry. This is heartbreaking, he is sitting there in cuffs while she shakes her head like he’s lying. I knew this trial was going to be hard to watch but this young man clearly was manipulated and abused himself. That’s very obvious.
How come he sounded totally compliant in what he was doing to his brother ?
Probably because his mother threatened him if he didn't do what he was told to do. I feel bad for this young man. He doesn't belong in jail. @@jennfrostbutter2715
@@jennfrostbutter2715 I think there are many psychological abuse and control factors that were likely used on him, it’s heartbreaking and mind boggling that this stuff happens and to invoke a sibling is abuse on that child too.
This kid deserves rehabilitation, not punishment. He’s a product of his mother, he’s a victim of child abuse himself. I pray for him.
That’s the American jurisprudence system for you. A justice system based on retribution, & not rehabilitation! There’s an expensive human cost, to that kind of social anger! Let’s all keep in mind, that this kid’ll be out of prison one day! I’d rather he was reformed, not just another angry young man on the street!..🤷🏻♀️
He knew it was wrong and did nothing to help his brother.
@@awkwardautisticdid you name your narrow minded high horse Victim Blamer or Self-Righteous?
@@awkwardautisticseems he’s brainwashed from what others are implying, even sent photos of him to her showing concern, unlike her who didn’t show a bit of concern.
Couldn’t have said it better myself 😢
The more you hear the more disgusted you are this is a special needs child this is a death penalty case!!!
Yes, the mother does not deserve 3 hots and a cot at Our expense. If harsher laws would be put in place, these things would cease to happen among us. Thank God Timothy is in heaven healthy and free!❤
@@amybahner6511 Agree 💯!
Agree 💯!
I agree but to the system that’s an easy way out so they decided to sentence her life without parole and to have her suffer worse consequences alive !!
@@amybahner6511 I agree with the sentiment, but it's just not true that harsher laws like the death penalty actually deter crime. She deserves whatever punishment she gets and I pray she will never have the opportunity to hurt anyone else. All we can do is hope for her rehabilitation otherwise this whole process is for nothing.
This is the first I’m hearing about this. I don’t ever watch the news. Ever. But this came across my feed and I feel sick to my stomach! That mother deserves the same punishment she inflicted on her child!!!!! Man I wish we lived in a country that doles out the same punishment that these monsters inflict! 🤬🤬🤬
This kid has been tortured and severely emotionally abused. He is a victim not an abuser. Just because he is over 18 doesn't make him emotionally an adult. Adult brain function isn't reached until late 20's. He needs extensive and long term therapy, not persecution.
Well said 😪
Agreed 💯
A child is dead. There needs to be consequences. He could have gotten help for Timothy but he didn’t. Yes, he was abused too but a child is DEAD.
Yeah and they don't give that a lot in a lot of jails sometimes prison will give that now you only go to prison if your sentence is more than like a year but a lot of jails are pretty threadbare and not so great so you don't have internet you can't really do much of anything but stare sometimes you don't even get books since COVID so. Yeah he does need therapy a lot of it I agree So I hope that the prosecution and people in our country start caring about that that are in the government so that they can get better and not get worse
@@wheresmycoffee8998yeah I agree too but I guess you don't understand what it's like to be in a cult and to be brainwashed I often worry about some kids I knew that we're very brainwashed by a narcissist thankfully they're away from this violent narcissist now but they were also malnourished You wouldn't think so because one of them was chunky but they shot up and started looking healthy once I got them they were just kind of living on junk food it's a different kind of abuse but it's still abuse in neglect. And they were used as weapons also now they weren't as abused as these children but there was a lot of terrible things going on and sometimes people that are raised like that with no internet and just the brainwashing it's just a tough situation but yeah I think he needs consequences to understand it's wrong and then he also needs a lot of therapy
I was so upset listening to that I had to stop. May he rest in peace and walk with Jesus this day and every day.
Amen
He is in a glorified body in Heavan with Christ.❤
@@kellyfinleybrown9313I'm not religious, but this thought is helpful 🥹
Amen❤
Amen…😢🙏🏽🕯️🕊️🕯️
I broke into tears when Paul said he made his brother a peanut and jelly sandwich and scrambled eggs. Paul is going to need a lot of help moving forward. She is just vile. To be so bereft of an ounce of human decency is beyond me.
The only once of humanity the poor kid saw during his last year of life. It showed him that at least someone cared. You can tell Paul was terrified to admit doing it, by the way he glanced over at Shanda after his admission.
Paul participated in the abuse. She may have come up with the torture, but he carried out her orders, tattled on his brother bringing more punishment on him, and skipped thousands of opportunities to call CPS or 911.
Meh. I think Paul lied about making him scrambled eggs. Look at how he's looking around. He knows what he did to Timothy and knows it was wrong. I don't think he's as culpable as his mother but he feels all those eyes on him. He said that about the eggs to try and set himself apart as a little bit better , distance himself from his mother. She instructed him to give Timothy peanut butter on bread.
He's vile too. Just because he's a male kid doesn't mean he's not an evil POS.
@@SDSueKthere is no heroin this story. I hate to tell you this but this kid took pleasure in hurting his brother.
He robbed my pop tarts , that’s what Paul texted the evil mom , he needs proper prison time, 😡
He was conditioned to it
@@Lupina-mp5ckWho would be the culprit be? His mother? He was a bully always a bully hence his father kicked Paul out of the house. Paul also sexually assaulted Timothy. There was no promoting by Shanda. Transcripts.
@@Lupina-mp5ckNo he wasn't.
@@Lupina-mp5ckand that excuses him?
@@TheZedThing I never say that
Omggggg this was disgusting. Good for Paul for coming clean about those last horrific moments of life for his brother.
I can’t believe there’s another case of “child dies from starvation and neglect “ type of thing. I can’t believe how cruel someone’s behaviour can be, especially to someone with special needs. Terrible just awful.
Did they not feed him at all? Or did he overeat?
@@annabrahamson4320huh? They literally starved him to death
The amount of torture Timothy endured is unfathomable. It's absolutely horrifying.
I'm surprised he didn't collapsed with the starvation, and standing endlessly..poor baby..she makes me sick with her looks.
It's like watching a prisoner of war, only of a different kind. Heartbreaking
100%, horrible horrible woman to do this to any living creature let alone your own children.
This is really sad. When Covid happened and there was lockdown announced everywhere, the immediate thought that came to me was about the people who are abused at home. The place that’s supposed to be safe is the scariest place on Earth when the abuser is staying with you 24/7
Wtf?? He"s an evil POS. What is wrong with you??
Exactly. 🥺
What a disgusting comparison
So let me see if I have this right. In the process of dying, due to torture and starvation, he is further tortured for being too weak to even wake up and even taunted with food.
My god. It’s hard to fathom that this level of cruelty even exists. It truly is I fathomable.
I’m glad I’m not the only one heart broken 💔 for this guy. He didn’t have a chance. This is insane
Everything about him is heartbreaking.
He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
@@toroverde9329He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
@@toroverde9329wrong person to have your heart break for, that's Timothy the child this guy tortured
@@resinfingers3896you seem to be taking this personally. You weren't there Mr judgmental.
This young man was forced to torture his disabled brother. I can see this has caused him deep mental anguish. He looks her way & scowled like, "How dare you put us through this monster!" I know this young man struggles daily & Shaundas sick actions live rent-free in his head. I wish him well & hope he gets counseling to be free from her torturous abuse inflicted on him & his sibling.
I wouldn’t call it forced dude. This is not okay, he willingly did this.
He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
I'm definitely not attempting to justify his actions towards his bro. He is wrong, but that monster mother encouraged & facilitated abuse.
I do believe she would’ve done the same to him had he not complied. To keep himself “safe” he had to obey her orders, this is a reason but not an excuse. He could’ve called for help, he could’ve done a lot but he’s clearly been abused and manipulated his entire life and knows what she is capable of, just like victims of domestic violence don’t leave or call for help this kid didn’t either. He needs heavy therapy and I think he would benefit from being in an institution over a prison.
He has obvious cognitive impairment. This is the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever seen. Some monsters like this woman NEVER deserve to have children. Prayers for sweet “G”.
Yet, still it happens all the time. Family services are helpless because of lack of funding.
@@poppyrowland1385Those people are just horrific period
This is also shows he has been abused as well.
Her victims name was Timothy, btw.
“G” is her underage child they aren’t naming publicly.
He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
He could have called police at any time, I have no sympathy for him.
He is also autistic and was abused as well. He is also remorseful.
you've got to be kidding me. You obviously know nothing about autism and abuse. Shame on you
Sounds that simple but I don’t think it was. What ever you are taught from birth good or evil that’s all you know. He was taught suffering was normal it looks like to me. Sad regardless
Even the worst criminals in history don’t endure punishment like what that poor boy went to.
He's a victim himself. Him looking over at his mother while answering the questions just hurts my heart. Everything about this is just beyond sick.
Yeah I thought at first she was just disciplining her kid but the more you listen to this, you realize how sick it is. Paul is nervous, he knows he's being judged, and he's judging himself, maybe really, for the first time. She doesn't deserve a comfortable cell, she deserves a lifetime of hard labor for what she did. Paul deserves a cell and psychiatric help.
@@TakeTheRide couldn't agree more. I just could not imagine doing that to anybody let alone a child I carried and gave birth to... I really try to put myself in someone else's shoes before I pass judgment. I can't for the life of me understand how or why any of this would be acceptable a single time let alone for such a long period of time.
Can't believe she's so relaxed, the nerve of her shaking her head in disagreement as he's telling all
I see him struggling with his memories and looking at his mother with utter hatred. i think he understands completely that hes here to destroy his mother, and thats exactly what he did.
I just went to wash my hands while listening to this had to wait for the water to warm up
and couldn't help but think what if I had to get into a tub full of ice water.
This is horrific! You can see how terrified the kid is the way he keeps looking at the mother. I’m wondering why he is in the handcuffs??? She’s abused all her children.
Because he is a prisoner unfortunately. I agree he is another one of her victims and I pray someone fights for him. He needs help not prison time.
@@garfield2439bring a victim doesn’t dismiss anything he did.
I think it’s because he’s in jail too. Charged with 1st degree child abuse. He should be charged with murder.
He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
@@garfield2439 Why wasn’t Shanda in cuffs during her testimony??
He lied. I saw all the text messages, he was the one who suggested the hot sauce.
He did a live on fb saying his brother passed away and didnt care.
He said in his text messages he wanted to hit timothy. At the very very beginning (still 2021), Shanda said to Paul "Be nice to him, please !". It still haunts me and I wonder why and how she became that monster knowing that she clearly tried to make Paul be nice with him. What happened ?! Everything escalated so quickly ! She came from nice and not buying his bs from being mean and cooperative with Paul.
EXACTLY, THE amount of people falling for Paul's act is appalling and yep those text messages and initial police interview show you all, you need to know
So you’re saying he was the one who orchestrated all this and she actually just wanted him to be nice?
@@adriahrestituyo506 He is clearly the instigator ! I read the text messages entirely.
This case is one of the most horrendous cases of child abuse I've ever heard of. The older son is also a victim, and I hope his life can improve.
All humans are endowed from birth with some good in us, Paul may have obeyed his mother once or twice, but when he saw the pain the painnnnnn his BROTHER was experiencing his good side didn't kick in, he could have said no mom don't ask me to do this anymore, at 19yrs old? No way Paul. Teenagers disobey parents all the time,. Paul amp up the torture! Stop making excuses for evil!
@JMG245I went to middle and highschool with him he was my friend he’s always been so small and in dirty clothes
@@chicfini it’s called coercive control. The only thing that kicked in for this teenager was fear and it’s all his known all his life. He was going to do what his mother told him to do. He is also a victim in this.
Heartbreaking 😢 listening to this almost unbelievable cruelty 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Wow, I can't imagine what we don't know about. It's completely insane. Was she getting off on this in some sadistic way? She needs to be convicted and imprisoned for the rest of her life period. This poor poor child did nothing wrong to die at the hands of his mother.. Rest in peace in God's love..❤ ❤
This is incredibly one of the saddest things I’ve heard. How horrible for these kids. Just seeing this boys eye contact every so often with that monster shows how fearful he is still of her. Just breaks my heart to pieces. I hope he heals and gets all the help he needs.
She keeps clearing her voice to try and freak him out.
This Evil Woman,needs life in prison with daily Ice Bath !
Don't be fooled this is all an act. Paul was the main torturer and did it with and without prompting from the mother. Go listen to Paul's jailhouse phoncalls and you will head the real Paul. A selfish self absorbed phsycopath who was looking for a doctor to diagnose no him with something. He is gloated that he bullies his autistic cell mate and complaining about the shower not being hot enough and the food not up to his standards. The Judge got it right Paul is a phsycopath and will always be a danger to anyone weaker than him.
You can see him cringe and close his eyes in physical pain and disgust when describing his brother being in an ice bath over night. The most horrific thing I have ever seen.
His body language is very telling its not often we see real remorse from child killers but he definitely understands the damage they have done
@@brianagarcia7387then he knew what he was doing.
Evil.
Yes, it proves he has empathy and remorse.
@@nowirehangers2815wasn’t he a child too when this all started?
@@raincheck01 no. He wasn’t .
He was a bully waaay before he moved in with Shanda. He was a willing participant in the torture. He's not autistic or on any type of spectrum. He is evil. He is not afraid of his mother. 🙄
What the hell! This is disgusting. This mother deserves the full extent of the law. I also feel bad for Paul who clearly fears his mother. I don’t understand how people can do this
He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
who told him to do the things he did? Who suggested killing timothy? you say "he'" but I dont know who you're talking about coz I'm saying "she"
@@cakesboo6554Paul did, look into his texts.
@@resinfingers3896 You will find many cases of people living in a highly abusive and tyrannical environment like this one going along with harming the weakest person for self-preservation and to please the leader. In this case, the effect is even worse because although he's 20, he's still extremely young and not fully developed, and the "leader" is his own mother. She has even more influence/power over him than someone else might. He is a victim of his mother, who led him down this path. Children are highly impressionable and vulnerable to their parents' influence - whether it be good or bad - especially children who are still technically developing mentally and emotionally. It's not all white and black.
The young man in court looks close to starving as well☹️
This monster doesn’t deserve to be called a mother. This is one of those cases where I think she should be subjected to the exact same torture that she administered to Timothy. I can’t even wrap my head around how anyone could do this to another person, much less your own child. Paul is a victim of her abuse as well. My heart goes out to anyone under this monster’s thumb. So unbelievably, horrendously cruel. RIP Timothy. I hope Paul gets the therapy he needs to try to undo what Shanda has done to him. 😢💔
You took the words right out of my mouth 💔😞
You have to remember anyone can be a mother but it takes a real women to be a mom to children
I get what you mean but who would be the person to do to her what she did to Timothy. As much as I hate her, I couldn’t do that to anyone or ask anyone to do that. This woman is a demon.
Paul only lived with his mom for two years bro lol. Yall acting like he's been brainwashed over all these years... He lived with his dad until 2020 and Timothy moved into the mom's house the same year he died
This was a sudden act not years in the making. He got absued for 6 months.
Agree. I feel Paul has empathy for his little brother. 20 is not very old, yet. Paul dissociated when carrying out his 'mothers' orders, but there were times when his empathy rose to the surface
I can not imagine the horror and torture this poor child went thru. . . And all at the hands of his mother, whose sole job is to love and protect her children. I pray that Timothy is in heaven with his Heavenly Father who loves him beyond measure. Rest in peace dear Timothy.
And the hands of his brother too.
This makes me sick,wtf is wrong with her and her damb son,hes old enough to know this was wrong
There is no punishment horrifying enough for this monster mother. She killed one son, and she terrified the other. Paul had a part in what happened to his little brother, but I honestly can’t see how anyone could find him responsible.
Shanda probably has a sad story too. Doesn't get her off the hook for abusing and killing a child. Same goes for him.
@@IyamyuyamThere's a difference. I'd like to see what you'd do in Paul's situation.
@@windhammer1237 that's what Shanda wanted to see too.
For Paul I think compliance was survival. Just my humble opinion
@@Iyamyuyam That response makes no sense, just like your previous one.
She treated that kid less than a dog. Its horrible and you can tell the mom believes she did nothing wrong. Shaking her head like she didnt do that her son is lying
Dogs get treated better than this
@@brendamerkle5956houseplants do
Whites never think they do anything wrong 🤷♂️
He was brainwashed and abused as well. She made her son abuse his brother, so if the abuse was exposed, then he would face consequences while her hands were clean
dear god i cant imagine this. i make sure to tell my mother every goddamn day 'thank you'.
What kind of abuse?
Finish watching this hearing, and some of the abuse will be apparent.@@hellokeroppi5406
Is he going to have a trial?
Just as guilty as his sociopathic mother...
Exactly. He spends over an hour telling police they didn't mean to kill Timothy and if the people on UA-cam read the text messages, paul was the one who suggested numerous new torture methods like the hot sause
If I was her defence attorney listening to this I would just stand up and tell her she’s on her own. How anyone can defend the indefensible is beyond me.
God, this woman is evil. I hope she's locked up forever and this poor kid gets the help he needs.
How can you do this to a child that relies on you??? So cruel and heart breaking. 😢
She tortured this child as well.
I'd almost be willing to bet she hated Timothy's father and therefore hated him.
@@knothead5217I’m inclined to
to agree with you on that 🧐
This is a clear case Abuse by proxy. This occurs when an abuser uses another person to abuse a victim on their behalf. The abuser can be doing this for a variety of reasons. Abuse by proxy is even more insidious when it happens within a family. In such cases the abusive parent will commonly use their children to abuse their sibling(s).
He knew right from wrong, he fed him SOME times and didn't listen to his mothers commands SOME times, that shows he knew right from wrong. He wasn't even raised by his mother, only a year before Tim came there. HE SUGGESTED KILLING TIMOTHY AND STARTING NEW TORTURE SESSIONS!!!! y'all need to learn to listen
@@resinfingers3896hi. Whats with all of the cut and paste responses?
Are you one of those lazy bots?
Zero intellect. Just blah, blah, blah?
Waiting with bated breath for your scintillating response.
You have no understanding of such abuse. There had to be times it was not safe for him to provide food. Fear is a powerful, driven experience. Thank your God you have never experienced the situation.
Don't believe him. He was complicit in all of this. Watch his police interview. He hit his brother without instruction from his mother. At school, he was a cruel person. He is only nervous because he is testifying against his mother as he knows he willingly committed everything to that Timothy. Don't believe this act.
My heart aches for Paul. He was a victim too. He doesn't need jail...he needs deep therapy, and a safe life. I hope the court/jury/specialists can see this.
Agree
It would be best for him to plead guilty and let the prosecution ask the judge for leniency. Maybe could be out on time served.
I agree. I said the same thing. Prison is not where he belongs. Therapy and lots and lots of love. This is so typical with victims of abuse. They do what they are told because they are afraid the abuser will do the same to them if they don't comply. My heart goes out to this young man.
I agree he need help not jail her was scared of her and you can see that when he is answering he was living in fear also
Exactly! He is an abuse victim to! Both kids need a lot of love and therapy.
This poor baby needs to be out of jail and handcuffs. My God, what he endured along with Timothy. It's horrendous how he keeps looking at her in fear. I hope the women she's locked up with give her what she greatly deserves.
May your last sentence be heard! 🙏
@@pamw9966Do you realize in order for someone to deliver prison justice means they spend up to a year in solitary and have no contact with their own children and family plus lose any good time built up so they will be in jail for extra months to years? So I hope you say nice things about prisoners and advocate for them having rights like clean water and not being chained to a bed while in labor. Otherwise why would Nancy who's got two years for theft risk it all everytime you feel extra upset about a crime. Maybe YOU could deliver justice seeing how most defendants aren't in jail while they fight the charges. I think it's so crazy people wish horrible abuse on every inmate but also want that inmate to be the hand of justice. Are the inmates animals who deserve abuse or are they like-minded people who deserve human rights? Or maybe you just think they are animals here to carry out your desires? Do it yourself you could actually get away with it.
Oh ya '🙏'
This is heartbreaking.
School districts need to implement a way of checking on children who are home schooled. Too often, abused children are taken out of school so the parents can hide the abuse.
Exactly. Home Schooling is the Abuser's Charter.
Unfortunately some public schools aren’t much better. Just recently at two different districts teachers have been found guilty of abusing special need children. It’s pitiful
Homeschooling is the perfect cover story
@@wandamccomas8628
There's no chance that kid could be seen out in public with CPS being called..
@@iamagainstyourpillows5162m I haven’t seen any photos, so I wouldn’t know. I just started with this and find it horrifying. I believe in protection our kids no matter what the case and no matter what it takes. It’s horrifying
People who say he was a victim I am not buying it. His body language reads as if he is ashamed of his behavior. He admits to also watching and reporting back when she was not available to monitor the brother. He could have easily feed and not reported “bad” behavior .
She keeps shaking her head as if her son is lying and its really pissing me off. I hope she gets made an example of in prison
Ditto
It horrifies me to know that this is happening all over the place. I can tell Paul is in pain. He was also abused. This is such a shame
Paul could have called CPS or 911 any time. He didn't have to tell her when Timothy "stole" food or walked around. He put him in an icebath multiple times.
I was abused horrendously during my childhood I have physical and emotional scars and you would never ever in a million years see me hurt my siblings in any sort of way! So I don't want to hear that he's been abused too whaaa whaaaa cry me a River! WTF CARES! It's people and opinions like you that make it possible for people like this to go free and then abuse their own kids when they have them!
@jturtle5318 oh I 100% agree. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be punished. Abuse is weird though. Control is weird. Fear is weird. Paul doesn't seem very socialized either and if he's grown up seeing this behavior he could think its normal. Again. Not an excuse, but a possible explanation
@TALLDRINKUVWATER first of all relax. Idk if you read my other reply to the other person or not but I said he still needed to be punished. Sometimes part of someone's abuse is being forced, coerced or threatened into abusing others. You can know that it's wrong, and still do it if you're in fear of it happening to you, or them getting an even worse punishment if you refuse. Psychological abuse IS abuse.
Paul is a GROWN MAN. He was complicit in this and could have saved his life but didn't.
She was shaking his head saying “no” to intimidate this young man!! So sickening this woman is the devil.
Then she gets up there and testifies and says she can't remember anything so then why would she be saying no? 🗑
He's smarter than you think. He pauses when he knows his answers will portray him as acting on his own without any direction . "Can you reiterate"?
This is absolutely heartbreaking. You can tell that this young man has been through extensive abuse and manipulation himself. I truly hope that when he is sentenced that the court has empathy and sees how much she controlled him. You can tell while he is testifying how terrified of that monster he is. I hope he’s able to be rehabilitated in someway and use his experience to honor his brothers memory, and do something positive in the future.
You're totally correct. When I first heard of his age being 20 I thought why didn't he do more to help? After seeing him and his demeanor I can tell he has a disability and is petrified. The mother fed off of his disability to control him.
I can see that he knows right from wrong and is trying extensively manipulation on the jury and Judge. I pray the jury can see through it🙏🙏🙏
@@joyceanderson8648 I pray that you never get to decide the fate of someone like him! 🙏
@@joyceanderson8648 Do you have a brain in your head? Everything you said is the exact opposite.
@@alizaepstein273 thank you I couldn't believe a person will leave a comment like that.
I'm not easily rattled, but this really got to me. A special needs kid, who already doesn't quite understand the world, lived in absolute hell, then died. His last months on the earth were spent in agony and torture. Just awful.
😢😢😢😢😢💔💔💔💔
@@lulucestmoi8797- did you hear that? It’s the sound of hearts breaking!😢
This guy has clearly been abused by his mother all his life as well. Very sad to see this on both of their parts. I wish the jail would only feed Shanda hot sauce bread.
Lmao, you and 62 others didn't listen to the full video. He only lived with her a year before Tim got there
@@resinfingers3896right, so he was abused for 2 years then - is that not long enough? How long does he need to be in a psychotic, abusive, evil home with an extremely evil controlling parent in your opinion? Not to mention, who knows what his life was like with his father?Doesn’t matter, either way - the kid definitely has some cognitive issues and is very likely autistic, himself & was easily influenced/ manipulated by his MOTHER.
@@randikenthank you for the interjection of objective reason.
I appreciate you.
P.S.- I'm autistic and know first hand that this is far more common than is currently acknowledged in "polite" society.
@@aftonair you’re so welcome 😉
@randiken He wasn’t abused by her at all. He had a history of assaulting Timothy before she even lived with them.
This is beyond my understanding, never have a heard so much torture. So much suffering 😢may this woman get the worst jail sentence😢😢