Prosecuting attorney completes questioning of Norton Shores woman accused of torturing, killing son
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2023
- Shanda Vander Ark is facing a first-degree felony charge of murder and child abuse in the first degree for alleged crimes that stem back to July of 2022.
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This is why the death penalty was created.
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100% straight to short stay death row. What an awful excuse for a human.
Evil Cruelty on a Disturbing level !😢 😳 😬 💯
Definitely
Exactly 🤬
When you’re a mom, feeding your kids is so satisfying on a primal, instinctual level. I don’t understand this freak of a woman.
Yep. I understand that, and wasn't blessed to be a mother. This woman infuriates me.
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I can even add to that! When my eldest daughter gave birth to my 1st grandson, she wanted to do everything by the book. She was a first time mom, so she just wanted to do everything the doctors recommended. Well, to me, he was still hungry and the doctors schedule was not enough! So I had bought pre made infant formula bottles. They lived with me at the time, so after she would feed him, I would take him for grandma time and give him more formula!! I hope it doesn't sound terrible, but I felt so much better when I did it. He is 5 now and years after that time I told her I did it and I wasn't sorry then or now! I could never deny my child, my grandchild, or ANY child food! When I cook or feed my loved ones it is always an expression of love. Of course not in unhealthy ways, but keeping them fed is a good feeling to me. I may not be able to give riches or gold but you will never go hungry.
Yeah, freak she is!!!
@@marisela7825 I get your general point, but if your daughter was breast-feeding, you were interfering in her milk production and bonding with her baby. Not cool.
This freak is probably thinking the child died on purpose to get her in trouble.
You are more than likely 100% correct. What is wrong with this world, my god
The mere fact that she decided to take the stand, in her own defense, shows what a narcissist she truly is.!
Yes! This was a slam-dunk case for the prosecution. Most people listen to their lawyers and take a plea to appear remorseful. She thought she could actually get away with it and she thought she could win over the jury. Delusional narcissist who has successfully manipulated everyone her whole life.
yeah I don’t know how she thought this would end well for her.
Forreal,Forreal!!😮
I mean it definitely at least shows she has an IQ of a sea cucumber!
I mean it at least proves she has the intelligence of a sea cucumber!
She remembers everything her son did wrong, but nothing that she did. Totally believable.
So true
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She studied law. She wasn’t going to admit directly to anything. It’s like that song It Wasn’t Me even if you see it with your own eyes.
Facts!! Didn’t even think about that
Totally cruel and sadistic
Take that water away from this monster
Or like somebody else said she should be in handcuffs like her son Paul was. Maybe they wanted to read her body language,ect.
She tortured him with every move He made he never even got a meal
Just like ruby frank a woman with lots of kids and a good reputation, but behind the scenes they are torturing their kids.
Yes! I wish they could also take away the air she breathes
@@caitlynm9885Ruby did not have a good reputation. People called out her ab use for years before her son escaped.
ate the crust off a half eaten burger and was forced to throw it up. she deserves a special place in hell. Doesn’t deserve to spend her years in jail being treated better than her own son was.
Facts
And complaining about the food the cold and the lack of entertainment 📚
DISCUSTING!! I hope she rots in jail!
Yes yes yes
Or worse
And in hell
She’s disgusting
It's actually "disGusting" but yes, I wholeheartedly agree.
Love this prosecutor! He is the voice for this child. RIP
WOWZERS EVE SPEAK
Yes he is
Amen 🙏🏽 this soo sad 😢 she's so evil
I agrée he makes the jury see how a liar, a monster, an evil she is.
He’s the chief trial attorney in that office. I can see why.
The prosecutor is NAILING this despicable woman. Good to see!
AGREEEEE
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edit: anyone catch the prosecutor's name?
Absolutely agree!
@ericsbuds Mr Roberts is the prosecutor
thanks :) @@jackiesaunders9013
The constant "i don't remember " is driving me nuts..
Same !
Of course, bc it's a total lie. I have no clue why she even took the stand, only to stutter "l don't remember " numerous times?
She “doesn’t remember“ all the horrible things she said or did but she definitely remembered how much meat he was “stealing” and the exact weight he was when he was starving!! Ughhh
Same as paul saying per shandas orders. Paul could have saved Timothy but he chose not to. Timothy's father knew shanda legally could not be around him but he sent him anyway. The father should be arrested as well. And didn't show up to court why? He was afraid he would be arrested. What a coward of a man. Paul and shanda deserved the death penalty not a cushion prison.. with food, a bed, tablets for movies, games, texting and video calls..
Now she's got amnesia. Please
She was TRAUMATIZED!? Are you serious!? If I was in the jury I would have stood up and screamed “GUILTY!!” That’s probably why I would never be allowed to be on a jury.
You and me both.
While I love this prosecutor and he's really fighting hard for Timothy, I think he missed a few chances to really show the world how horrible she is.
Every time she "remembered something" I would have asked her "so you remember using Siri but you don't remember why you sent the text?"
Gosh darn it I hate her
@@PinkyakaAyannajwould be considered argumentative lmao
Seriously!
I don't think anyone cares that she is having a hard time her first month of jail "she's traumatized." Think of how traumatized that poor child must've felt, that his own mother and brother would do this. I can only imagine 😢
I also really wish that when she says “I hardly ever used words like dummy” (when talking about the pancake mix) that he reminded her that one of the last things she said to Timothy was to call him a dummy
When you're 63 lbs you aren't stealing food, you're desperately trying to survive.
which is why he was eating raw meat probably
Craving sweets and chips and frozen nuggets and refusing healthy food?
@@mmoro143 he was autistic, probably only liked certain foods.
What an astute observation, Sarah.
Ty Stephanie for pointing it out...people who have cognitive disorders cannot make good healthy choices for themselves, among other they crave sweets and junk food. It is their caregiver's responsibility to "control" this ill self-destructive behavior..to help them by keeping them away from junk (that worsens their condition) and to provide healthy options. If the patient chooses to take it! Blaming a caregiver for doing so and accusing her of starving her child when she locks the source of food to keep her child's cravings under control is rather ignorant, rude, and pardon my honesty, insane idea. Labeling it an abuse and torture is gently speaking "foolish" misunderstanding showing lack of knowledge, experience and willingness to do what is right.🤷♀️ it is not justice.
Repeatedly calling her dead son "deceitful and sneaky." She cannot hide her hate for him at all as she tries to paint herself as innocent.
She really thinks that was an excuse to treat him like she did. What a sick evil woman.
She’s very analytical.. and detached
Yes I noticed this! She SPAT it out of her mouth “he WAS sneaky!” With pure hatred in her face. She probably blames him for where she is now and his own death.
Couldnt have said it better! Absolutely disgusting
Exactly she’s disgusting
I’ve never felt such hate towards another “person” in MY LIFE.
I KNOW, Right!! I am Shocked at MYSELF for the DEPTH of my HATRED of this CREATURE but I KNOW the Good Lord will UNDERSTAND because THIS THING is NOT HUMAN!!!!! 👺👺
32:12 the way he throws the binder at her in disgust “show me the text messages between you and Paul that shows he was on a hunger strike” 👏🏼 chef’s kiss 🤌🏼
This woman trying to explain away her abuse is like listening to a pedophile rationalizing his attraction to children. It’s like nail on a chalkboard.
If that's what the footage says....🤦🏻♂️
She is claiming she can't remember crap. Even when prosecutor shows hard evidence ...she is a monster...
That is a perfect way to describe it! She is just evil. When i first started watching I saw her and thought, oh she couldn't have actually done this on purpose...WOW.
I'm 4:20 in and I'm astounded ar her lack of shame or guilt at what she did and so far her testimony is only about dragging her poor son into the bathroom, if that's where she brought him.
@miahfukinrella007 Wow..I love the way you described this! She is evil…and she feels if she says she don’t remember it’s like it didn’t happen. Liar liar
She still has anger and hatred for that poor kid. Even at her own trial for his murder, she can’t hide it. Pure evil
She’s angry at him that he died.. she blames him for her getting arrested.. that’s how sick and evil this woman is
She truly is pure evil! She remembers everything she did! If she had such memory problems there’s no way she would’ve made it through law school. I can’t comprehend how someone can be so cruel to another human, especially their child!
If that's what it shows...
@@NORTAH85 poor kid...
100% agree. What that child has to endure for 15 years! 😢
She appears angry that she is being confronted with her actions! Unreal.
The only time she is happy is when she gets to confirm how smart she is.
@@workingman-xl6xh well, I don't know why people think she's smart.
She doesn't seem that smart, to me.
Out of sight out of mind
"Applies to Timothy also,🙄 "
🎤 Great prosecutor!!!!
I have worked with special needs people and this woman makes me sick. Put her under the jail for life, she's pure evil
Ohhhh I'd be pleased if she weren't under the jail.. cuz when she goes to prison her life will be a living hell.. as it should be... Other prisoners hate on this sick shit 😮
@Anna-loves-you I totally agree with you.what a sick evil women
So you got paid to work with kids with special needs? I watched her testimony before Paul. I don’t see the jury going any other way than the obvious. She knows the foster care systems is awful, but her treatment was better? The DA worked this case very well, plugged the gaslighting the defense attorney did. Why the hell is the DA going after Paul is it to force him to testify. Paul’s testimony was a lot believable, but under the evidence, she did the best she could. Maybe she is really is just awful. Not that my judgement really matters in the end, not that’s she has much of a life worth living even getting acquitted.
Maybe someone should give her only bread and hot sauce for her stay in jail!
Add a couple of minuscule sides, and that is a meal in jail @justinshades6652
Imagine torturing your child to death then saying you were traumatized. What a monster.
I believe she’s claiming that the trauma is from her husband having a stroke in January, which roughly coincided with Timothy coming to live with her. but it’s complete horse shit. she likely was abused as a child and became a sadist. abuse on this level is usually passed down through the generations
all BS, remember she worked for a Judge and heard that mot likely in the court room
She reminds of. Female Nazi guard at a concentration camp during WW. She got her jolly’s torturing and starving her son to death. She saw her “ final solution”
Monster, that's all I keep thinking.
Crazzzy!!
I never in my life wanted to beat someone up untill now. I did not know I had it in me. Her talking about trauma.... what about that poor boy... this is the worst human behavior I have ever seen
What evil looks like.
I have NEVER been so disgusted and infuriated by a total stranger!! The fact that she is STILL lying is absolutely pathetic.
same ... so much i hope she will be known in jail so bad
Ugh she’s trying to play “Lawyer “ but she’s not that good at it obviously. She’s tripping over her own lies and the only diction she practices is “I don’t remember sir”
No sir I don’t remember! What why what is with the French braids?🤮
I think she thinks the French braids make her look innocent ,like a little girl....🤷🏼♂️
Hunger strike again he was autistic does he know what a hunger strike is??
He was sick from no food and bread and hot sauce like he was in a concentration camp.
Disgusting
She hated Timothy then and hates him now. She continues to blame this poor child during her testimony for her horrific abuse inflicted upon him. I am so sorry for what Timothy had to endure. May he rest peacefully now.
So bizarre that she only remembers his transgressions but conveniently never any of the messages she herself typed and sent.
It’s a weak defence too. Even if she conveniently can’t remember she clearly did all and said all of it.
Im so sick with this case. It is very hard to watch and listen to this evil sick person. Those poor kids. Who is feeding the stroke husband?
@@OpeddRight? Infuriatingly obtuse 😡
My birth giver is the same way with her memory. @@Opedd
Why did the bio father give him to her?! He should be accountable for not keeping track of his care or checking on him.
Exactly
They mentioned he had a stroke so maybe incapable of doing so? Who knows
@@DomCoreLeon Eeic did not have a stroke. He's just a pos
@@DomCoreLeonhe wasn’t the bio dad. That was her husband. The bio dad sent him back from out of state
@@DaliaDippolito. so who's culpable? The step dad, the grand dad, the bio dad, the government dad... who? It seems like people are desperate to alleviate the BIO mom of agency when she is directly responsible.
But all this does is infantalize women
She was STARVING him, and torturing him, but she expects people to believe she was concerned about him eating "something dangerous"!? It's disturbing to know people like this can work in the court system!
Contradicting herself like feeding her 15 yr. old the 2 hottest peppers on planet earth isn't dangerous! She's more dangerous than the peppers!
Oh, just like she put him in baseball because she felt bad that she didn't get out much to get him socialized. Just like she said she wanted to take him off his meds because "he was like a zombie - it was horrible". Just like she argued, "oh I wouldn't send (my little son) G outside by himself, he was with Paul". LAUGHABLE. Does she actually think anyone believes she has the ability to feel empathy? She has no moral compass. I don't even know why she even TRIES to say this shit. Why even bother? Just take your sentence and go. Smh.
Plenty of such people in government jobs.
When they have power over people it soon turns perverse.
It's frightening that she is human. Then again....she isn't. The devil's spawn is what she is
People in government are the darkest, most disgusting people. Evil people.
“You don’t have to take my word for it, let’s play the video”. and “So you admit he didn’t have access to the refrigerator and freezer?” “He was on a hunger strike but you put locks on the refrigerator, freezer and pantry?” This prosecutor is outstanding! He helped her walk into traps of her own making.
i love when he calls her out for magically forgetting and also “chicken nuggets are pre-cooked” when she tried to play “he could’ve killed himself eating frozen chicken nuggets” B***H PLEASE
He was very crafty handling this very evil woman. RIP Timothy.
Agree
He was so genuine as well, when he asked her “how long was he in the tub?” She had no answer. I don’t understand this woman, how could she do this? When my daughter was born I was swaddling her and she had tons of onesies under her pjs. And I woke up when she wanted to eat immediately! I wrote everything down. Even though her days and nights were off that was ok cause I just wanted to see her eat with oh dear we had tons of different bottles and if she didn’t like one we would give her another, it’s part of nurturing. That was her baby!
Good God he’s in paradise for sure.
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This poor kid. What kind of monster does this to their own children? She used her son to torture her other son. What a sick woman. Her saying she doesn’t recall these things, is such a blatant lie. She is evil. Absolutely evil.
“From the sound of it”…
“I don’t remember, sir”…
“I trust your word there, sir”….
“If that’s what it says”….
“Apparently”….
“Sneaky and deceitful”…..
Does she really think people will believe her?..
And she does not deserve that bottle of water she keeps sipping on…
She makes me sick…
Vile, cold, evil monster
“I wanted to give him his privacy”… says the psycho with cameras everywhere, including the bathroom, to monitor his every movement 🙄
Yep. Sick so sick
She wanted to give him privacy with no clothes on the lower half of his body while cleaning the garage and then standing on his knees with no clothes😢😢😢😢 shes pissing me off.
But thinks hot sauce in the privates is fine.
Including his bm's. I have a hard time wondering what went thru his mind. He gave up. She's psychotic 💯
Right! She wanted her flying monkey to pour hot sauce on his penis but she wants us to believe she cared about his privacy.
She never cries for her son, only cries when she is undeniably shown to be cruel and torturing her son. She only cries for herself!
Like a true sociopath.
Not real tears evil 👿 monster
She remindes me of Amber H.,the voice..all of it. Pshycos.
Did she even throw up? Anyone check the trash?
@@gyptess4794 of course not. She pulled the same stunt when she was being arrested.
She was getting off on torturing that child! It’s beyond disgusting.
She did not get off she was convicted I hope she gets her uppance in jail- why is she putting him in the bath at 15 anyway
Its really ironic that the cameras which she used to punish and torture Timothy, was the main evidence used to convict her.
She's not the brightest person.
I’m glad that she had the audacity to testify. The jury got to see a heartless, soulless, evil piece of trash.
I don't think she comes across like that but okay
I don't think anyone would believe the I don't remember line
thats the thing about this type of garbage... they really think they are the smartest in the room. thank god she is is so slick she wants to testify and thank god for text messages
Yep, she left no doubt she's a sadistic monster.
@@rachela4071Lady, let her babysit your kids. You’ve lost it.
Isn’t it amazing that she passed the bar while having such a terrible memory!
And was able to work for a judge! Maybe with all her “memory problems” someone should audit all her work.
she wasn’t an attorney so she didn’t pass a bath or ever taken the bar 🤦🏻♀️ she just for a the courts for one summer but she wasn’t an attorney or whatever.. more like a court Secretary
She took the LSAT, people are confusing it with the bar, but she did do well. @@beautifuldisaster139
@@beautifuldisaster139Actually she had graduated law school and was a law clerk for two different circuit court judges. She had just passed the Bar exam right before being arrested. How she managed all of this is beyond me.
Maybe all of her schooling will be usefull after all. She can advise her fellow prisoners pro Bono. 😆
@@deniece0821sorry i misunderstood but i watch the the beginning & heard but i thought she just worked at a court clerk so i misunderstood the first video of certain ?s that i watched my bad
She talks like this is normal. The trauma crap about her is sickening.
On my birthday.. may 17th.. she called him a dummy for wanting to eat raw pancake flour in a cup and punishing him by giving him bread and Tabasco hot sauce. I don’t want kids as a 28 yo and haven’t wanted to but I would have taken this child in a heart beat to protect him from this. Such a disgrace to human society.
She really has the audacity to say SHE’S traumatized.
Narcissism
@@matteframe Nope. Please stop misusing this word.
@@veraboltondefinitely narcissism involved in the rest of the psychosis of this woman. We all have a little narcissism.
@@pl1763 Absolutely not. Narcissism is a mental disorder and maybe "you all" have it there but not here.
This woman has no psychosis, she's more likely a sadistic psychopath.
And the way she started to tear up/break down during her own "trauma", but not a single tear for her poor child. I cannot fathom how anyone can be so blatantly self-centered. She is absolutely evil. The fact that she feels sadness for her herself means she is capable of feeling, she just isn't capable of empathy or feeling for any one but herself. That is just plain evil.
A child shouldn't have to "sneak" food or toys in his own home. She didn't even supply her own son with basic needs. What a monster.
In the toilet because the child was speaking of was 15 I don’t know why the brother or sister wouldn’t have said something to somebody it’s crazy😢
poor kid...
The truly mindboggling part to me is how she's clearly thinking the jury is going to find her behavior perfectly reasonable.
I can't say for sure but obviously she had a hold over the older son, most likely long term emotional/psychological abuse and trauma. He was most likely afraid of her. Same thing happens when a spouse is being abused, with long term trauma you feel hopeless, afraid, and powerless.
When she said toys I was like really?? He was literally living in HELL
It's amazing how she remembers in detail all the "sneaky" (we're supposed to say, well then, everything you did was justified, let's all go home) things her son did, but can't remember things she did. She remembers how many cabinets doors were open, but nothing how she tortured him.
doesn’t understand he was “sneaking” because he would get punished for being curious and he was also literally starving. I wish someone had been there to defend this poor kid.
The only time she actually gets emotional is when she references how she didn't eat her first month in jail.......sickening
I’m autistic with ADHD and sensory processing disorder. We’re not subhuman. We grow into adults if our parents “allow” it. My heart is broken for Timothy. I would have loved him and cared for him. This woman is truly a monster.
God Bless You! She is an horrific monster
So, I assume you’re saying this bc Timothy was autistic with ADHD? (Sorry. Not trying to be disrespectful, I just started watching this) It seems to me that she loathed her son. She despised her child. What is broken inside of a mother that she could hate her child so much that she would torture and kill him?
@@sylvermoon1745 no, that Shanda is a hateful psychopath. Ignorant NTs always use autism as an excuse. If we’re allowed to thrive we can do amazing things. Or just live a life.
@@sylvermoon1745 Shanda is a monster and Timothy was her scapegoat.
@@sylvermoon1745
Why would you ask such a terrible question?
Do you NOT take a person for their word?
This woman is pure evil. Justice will be served. RIP young man.
I have watched many different trials about parents slowly murdering their Children EVIL😢
I am shocked she testified. Her narsacism couldn't help itself..
Good though, because it's the nail for sure...
@@deannawiederhold3326
I wouldn’t be able to sleep ..
The most disgusting part is that she justifies all of her actions, because "he was sneaky and deceitful". We need a license to own a dog, but not to parent. What an unfortunate world we live in that allows a defenseless child to endure such torture.
I loved the prosecution lawyer he wasnt taking non of her shit
THEY SHOULD HAVE SHOWED HER THAT VIDEO! She should have to witness everything she did to that poor boy
This B makes my blood boil Yes Exactly!!! Play the video !! She's a Damn Moonnsstteerr!!!
For sure
She was very aware of everything she did.
The only reason, why I’m glad they didn’t is for the jury’s sake. There is enough evidence stock piled against her and everyone knew it. The video should have just caused the jury to need further therapy after this.
For sure but some how she stopped it ,
So he has 60 seconds to go to the bathroom but then gets abused when he has an accident? She starves him and when he tries to sneak food to survive, he gets punished. This here folks is pure hatred. He couldnt win. What a evil human she is.
Right poor Timothy had accidents because of her torture she ordered paul to give him the hot sauce. This poor baby could not do anything right right in her eyes. The poor boy was starving and literally dying with his mouth open before her eyes and she had her nerve to say he was faking? 😭
She obviously still hates him! Hope she rots in prison
Yes, it's so awful. And it wasn't impulsive, it was actions she had to think about ahead of time and then do repeatedly. I agree with the sentence handed down 100%.
She is not a human, she’s an animal, even worse! a liar of the first degree!
I was traumatized and I don't remember....WT??!!
4 slices of bread with hot sauce. Why didn’t she get the chair ??? My son begs me for spicy things a lot and I’m like noooooo I don’t want u to even try it’s hot. It took a lot for me to let him try hot Cheetos !! What a demon that woman is !!!
that sauce is basically a weapon not food it’s concentrated acid.
can’t believe her entire defense hinged on “ I don’t remember?” How did she think that was gonna work?
Has anyone else noticed that she hasn't shed a tear over her own son????
No tears and when she fake cries she can't even get a tear out
The devil has no tears. There all dried up from the heat of flanes😅
She attempted to shed a tear, but it was about a frozen chicken nugget, and the lawyer shut that down..
She's not capable of empathy. I believe she abused all of her kids😢😢
This case with these details make me nauseous
The kid was dying and couldn’t even walk. She dragged him ?WTF?🤬
and when he was dying and his mouth was open for air, she called him a dummy.
He was in the ice bath for 9.5 hrs.
@@fanofthedog😤😡🤬😢
@@unapologeticallyauthentic I am just so hurt for the boy. He suffered so bad. Hunger pains are horrible. Being chained up. Having to ask permission to go to the bathroom. Handcuffed ? Ice baths for hours? I didn’t know this child. But I hurt for him. This one is very painful.
I totally misread the situation initially. I am now nauseous.
She doesn't think it's "appropriate" to look at her child when she's putting him in an ice bath but it's perfectly fine to put cameras in the bathroom to watch him use the toilet
The sheer audacity of her ACTUALLY taking this to trial and pleading not guilty. Disgusting.
She deserves everything she gets in prison. She’s speaking like she believes she is smarter than the attorney questioning her. She’s evil personified. Timothy’s Dad needs to be punished for sending him to live with her. Everyone failed this child.
I am sure she will get some much deserved prison justice.
Keep your misandry in check! This typically manipulative and narcissistic Karen is solely to blame but do keep on venting if it helps.
Unless he sent him back knowing about the abuse, witnessed and/or contributed to the abuse.....then his only crime is having faith that the incubator would care for him as it should. And I say incubator for lack of a more fitting and appropriate word. Cause truly, being called an incubator is too good of a title for her!
@@diamoniquechanelvalentina2014agreed!!
Awful human
If she could, I'm pretty sure this woman would demand an apology from poor Timothy for dying and getting her in trouble.
Pero por que ella puede beber agua, cuando ella le negó ese derecho al pobre niñito?😢😢😢😢
@@mildrelugo3642 Alas, she would have legal grounds to get people in trouble if she's denied human rights. Even if she herself denied them to others.
100%
Totally
Absolutely. She hated poor Timothy
Playing the "memory loss due to trauma" card.
Crazy how she doesn’t remember anything but as soon as she sees a loophole to lie she all the sudden gains her memory back
And she thinks the jury’s not going to notice that
She gets to drink water in court room and her son never got any . I hate it when she gets to drink water, her child did not get to drink this amout at any time. This is so hard for me to see her drink water . When he so was denied a swallow of water.
I’ve never hated a stranger so much. Pure evil.
Same
Casey Anthony
Hope she gets prison justice.
@@Inletwatcher1965honestly this lady is worse and that’s saying a Lot
She’s a evil awful person. Feel sorry for her son omggg what he went thru
The thought of the poor boy 'sneaking food out of cans' is just heart breaking. I hope this woman has the worst time when she gets sent to prison
She is there already.
I wonder how it’s going
January 29 is her sentencing. I hope she gets life with no chance of parole.
She's in jail. Prison will be different!
That poor child was tortured to death. She deserves life in prison.😢
😭
She is pure evil .
Sounds like she treated her dog better then her son.😢
Your commissary tells a different story. You ate better than Timothy ever did.
This is the most disastrous (for the defendant) cross examination I’ve ever seen. There is absolutely no doubt that she will be found guilty.
Honestly hearing this cross I think they could have charged her much more harshly
and so waht????? They slap her hand and then she has a 4th kid to torture!
@@lindanorris2455she already has 4 other kids today. But you’re right courts have mercy on women who do this but fathers get the max+max
💯‼️
Has she tried to claim insanity?
"I was traumatized. I didnt eat for a month".
Wow she has the nerve to play victim like this
“Hunger strike”
The gall of this piece of crap
She reminds me of Amber Heard and every other pathological malignant sociopathic psychopathic narcissist, cluster B type etc, that I've ever seen on a witness stand or in an interview after a crime.
People can suffer from these disorders and not become entirely monsters! Some of them work hard to understand the issues in their own brain, background and behavior, to get better! And to not hurt other people, certainly not to this premeditated and horrific extent and over long amounts of time!
Like I've often heard, the devil and pathology lack creativity. Sickness all becomes the same, and evil people resemble each other. How they do! It all follows such commonly predictable patterns most of the time 😢
@@Sonworshipper She was obsessed with this idea of hunger strikes? It seems?
I love your screen name!
@@iahelcathartesaura3887 Thanks! ☺️
I cannot believe that was the BEST she could come up with.
The " i don't remember" is infuriating not to mention the audacity of her claiming not "eating anything for the first month in jail" asif we're supposed to feel sorry for her.
Even a dog will not steal food. ... if he is being fed...if you don't feed your dog he has every right to steal food ...that's not theft
She’s beyond infuriating!!! Her testimony can be condensed into “sorry Sir, I don’t remember torturing my child to death” WTF…?
But she conveniently 'vaguely' remembers selective parts of conversations that may be something she can use to her advantage, but as soon as something in the same conversation puts her in a bad light, she forgets again. Infuriating.
She thinks shes the smartest person in the room - psychopath. Delusional - actually thinks she's believable.
@@AshleeMarie-tb5fi fact
She knows exactly what she's doing, she remembers everything except the torture she did to him and MADE HER OTHER SON HELP . She's a sorry excuse for a mother. Doesn't even deserve the title of mother!
I know right!
This boy was starved and tortured… starved so much that he was eating frozen chicken, raw burger meat, ripping locks off pantry doors, risking his own safety just to survive… the poor lad..
This woman is pure evil.. her tears are for herself and no-one else
You really believe he did that? She sounded like she was lying about that.
@@Ritsukaberrywhy would she lie about that when it’s obviously evidence that the kid was starving?
@@Ritsukaberryhe was desperate for food, he was doing anything to try to survive. Why would that be a lie?
@@Ian-Omega But I thought he wasn’t allowed to move so how did he get access to the fridge?
@@amelie9271 Read my response to previous person that replied to me.
Calling Timothy weird for eating canned food without warming it up!! I just want 5 min alone with her. Maybe even 2 min. If he actually did that it's because he was STARVING!
Wow. She gets very emotional when recounting how much she suffered in jail, but not when describing the horrible torture and abuse she inflicted on her child.
She tried to give him his privacy??? I'm sorry, but she told Paul to take the shower curtain down so she could watch him while he showered. She's such a liar!
She’s so creepy also plus evil
@@veronicawilson1048demonic
I think she’s also a sexual pervert
What they did tying him up amounts to kidnapping
Has anyone realized that her nose and her upper lip turns red when she gets upset? Maybe she is a form of pinocchio.
This prosecutor does an outstanding job! Forcing her to admit to the torture and lies. Powering through all the "I can't remember " and " I was traumatized". What a horrible horrible person!
It was very unusual the way she kept saying that, instead of saying yes, that’s a possibility, we did that or no we would never do that….about things someone should never do.
She doesn’t have memory issues. She never would have made it through law school if her memory was as bad as she’s trying to convince people of.
Well, she is claiming she has memory issues related to PTSD, she mentioned that a couple of times, but that is a weak excuse for everything that led up to it. @@NORTAH85
That demon is no person.
She has selective memory in addition to being a monster.
How did she think she could talk her way out of this.
did she really just say that out loud? "he messed with flash cards and got them out of order" what a bad crime omfg
that struck me too. what a criminal.
She’s so evil that she doesn’t even realize how abnormal and shocking her statements are to people
Part of her life sentence should have included that she can not have commissary. I can not comprehend a mother so evil.
She won't last long in prison
@@jasonhernandez5312 God forgive me. I hope ur right
I wish... All she does is beg ppl for money on her jail calls... Also the good thing is now she complains about how cold it is, horrible the food is, how miserable it is in jail.
That's exactly what I think ,and her so called friend should be ashamed of herself after hearing all this
People everyday in the USA kill their children through abortion and you don’t think there are sadistic people out there.
This monster is really pissing me off. Going to the kitchen to grab a snack IS NOT BEING "SNEAKY" OR "DECEITFUL"....Its just a 15 year old boy trying to eat and NOT DIE. Period. 🤬😡😤
Thank you! I have a teenage son and daughter, my boy eats everything in the house, he’s a growing boy! It’s what they do, if they eat it buy more! Sneaking..stealing is just crap it’s food not gold! She is a psychopath who is controlling. I watched a video on ZavGirl where Paul is doing a live of G’s game and it’s the only time you can hear Timothy speak. You can tell he had severe autism, he wasn’t high functioning. But he was so excited, they were so annoyed with him it’s sad. You hear Satan over here tell Paul “Stop recording!” Paul says “I’m doing a live, just recording the game” she says “No turn it off! You can record but not live stream. Shut it off!” She was extremely controlling and sadistic
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Listen to the full text thread on zav girls site. She TORTURED him beyond imagination. The prosecuting attorney took it easy on her compared to what she did
Same. And the “hunger strike” nonsense makes my blood boil too.
@@ajvourakissame! No teen boy would go a damn hunger strike!
She clearly remembers his deceit but can't remember her texts.
Shes not crying because shes ashamed of herself. Shes crying because she is being held accountable for her actions.
This woman is sadistic and evil.
How cruel.
That poor kid.
She deserves as much mercy as she showed this vulnerable child.
Exactly! None
how convenient for you to simply dismiss it as 'evil'
And she talks about how ‘she’ was traumatized. What a sociopath.
Well said!!!
likely a descendant of slaveowners and founders of our great nation. Always need to be degrading , torturing, killing and harming someone then blaming them. it's like a national brand. this is the face of evil. it's not "toxic masculinity" it's not some all powerful monster, it's meek acting, decent acting grey people. How do we walk past homeless hungry people? how do we ignore injustice? we are compartmentalized. it's awful.
Blaming HER SICK, EVIL DEEDS on that poor child.....She is WORSE than imagined....
.TAKE THAT WATER FROM HER
Yeah!! That's what I keep thinking!
Amen to that! She’s one cold b!
When she said "I can't handle hot sauce" I'm like "pour some in her eyes 😠"
Imagination, ignorance and assumption lead to anger and revenge. Understanding, knowledge and wisdom heal...what will you choose for yourself all the righteous people?🙏
Those are just feelings that are understandable thinking about the nature of this crime. I doubt any of us are actually revenging anything but her sitting there calmly and sipping water after brutally torturing her son to death is hard to comprehend.
I wonder if people were forced to endure the same treatment they force upon others if they’d think twice before committing such heinous crimes.
Wait wtf!? This lady is mad Evil to her Own kids
What was her point for even testifying herself she sounds absolutely ridiculous
"I cant remember!" I cant believe how cruel!!😪😮💨😮💨
Stupid
Shes a narcassist. She cant help it
The defence probably ran out of options
Ikr…not sure why she chose to testify? She now has zero chance of appeal & for someone with ‘an excellent legal brain’ who actually worked in that SAME courtroom with an appellant judge…such a stupid move 🤦🏻♀️ I honestly think she believed she was justified in what she did…she’s one of the worst criminals I’ve ever seen
God…the sheer gall of her saying SHE is traumatized!
She reminds me of Amber Heard.
@@gloriaflanders3481Amber Turd.
yet she managed to go to a job, it's funny she knew what she was doing at her job..some trauma..
@@gloriaflanders3481 Totally. She even sounds just like her
That really got to me!
Wtf is the crust of a burger? The bun?
And these people have kids where other people beg for child and don’t have 🤷🏼♀️
When she called him weird for eating out of a can that killed me. What a terrible lady.
Lady?😮
I will never stop being upset over this and here she is being so unbothered
She slipped up so many times, and almost admitted he was hungry. A normal person couldn't even talk about their deceased child this way, calling them "deceitful and sneaky". My God this woman is just wrong on every single level, a true abomination.
This monster needed to be prosecuted by the prosecuter in the jessica groves case!
@@lyndzierugg1242 Or Juan Martinez
Only a true narcissist would think she could talk her way out of this and convince a jury it was all Timothy's fault
100% Kind of fun to watch in a weird way how she is talking herself into prison for life.
100% Kind of fun to watch in a weird way how she is talking herself into prison for life.
So dumb is the jury and the world, that all she has to do is say "I don't remember" and we will all be like oooooh, okay then, then it maybe didn't happen? We set you freeeeee!
Or the brother. Narcissism is the least of her problems.
Or the brother. Narcissism is the least of her problems.
Sneak food? Sneak toys? This woman is diabolical… so is Paul.
The way she tries to rationalize the abuse she inflicted on him is unbelievable
Agreed. One relatively minor point though: she said that when he was forced to stand up against the wall, he had to keep his hands up on his head for a period of time. Ten minutes? An hour? And how long did he have to stand up against the wall?
Yet prosecutor sarcastically called her a brilliant lawyer.
She just gave him a warm bath...
As I watch her on the stand.. Gulping, and evading questions… In her mind she is thinking. Ugh this makes me look so bad! But it hasn’t even remotely occurred to her that, it’s because you are bad. An awful parent. It would make Auschwitz’s survivors blush at her treatment.
@uservictory9 I'm willing to bet she peed on him!! I'm sure that's the closest to a warm bath he got in that house.
35:22 How many times a day did he have to take an ice bath??? Holy sh*t!! Why didn't she send him to his Dad & step-Mom? Even if they beat him, it would have been better than starving to death. And he never got anything that was healthy. NOT one time did I hear a food item offered to him, that was remotely healthy.
38:48 What's up with taunting him with food, and then take it away before he can grab it. How bad both boys must have felt!! One starving and wondering why he was hated so badly, and the other one was forced to do this to his brother, or God knows what she would do to him.
Did she believe that they wouldn't ever find out what they were doing to him?
Thank God Paul refused to pour hot sauce on his penis!! I guess he realized that he was torturing his brother already, and that was just too much?!?!
I'm just sick, thinking about that poor boy!!!
Funny how she can remember all the bad stuff her boy allegedly did but when it comes to her wrong doings, “I can’t remember”
She’s embarrassing, she really thought her intelligence would outweigh the evidence. So she wasn’t that smart was she, 🙌🏼🙌🏼
She must be a psychopath. Emotions have a strong role in memory formation. So that tells you she was experiencing anger towards him, but zero empathy or shame when harming him.
Although I really do wonder if she actually can't remember. Seems like a convenient avenue to squirm out of things. Deny deny deny.
Such a great point j-r. So inconsistent.
@@c.eb.1216 She absolutely remembers. During this testimony, at multiple points she goes to her default "I can't remember" excuse, despite already answering and providing details to the question.
Not smart at all! She was a dizzy biotch!!! Hell, Paul, smarter than she is! He saw that Timothy was losing weight and needed to eat. She should have listened to that dummy, and they would have been a dynamic duo!!!
And she was "teaching him to not be sneaky". But she tried to hide everything from the police. In fact, she was sneaky all along. "Don't let Grandma go inside". "Stay in the back yard". " Keep the garage door closed". She knew what she was doing was wrong, and she would get in trouble if anyone reported her. She was sneaky!!!
The most bizarre thing is she sits there and testifies like her punishments were the most normal thing in the world. Evil!
I hope that Timothy knows we all agree that he deserves LOVE, ITS NOT HIS FAULT THAT SHE IS A EVIL WOMAN! SHE HAS NO ABILITY TO LOVE. WE ALL LOVE YOU TIMOTHY ❤😢
"I wanted him to stop being decietful and sneaky"..mission accomplished you horrible psychopath RIP Timothy I pray this woman will get her Karma from some mom's in jail.
She said he snuck toys snuck them from where
It's just so sad, so sad poor Timothy. He was disabled FFS
She was so stuck on him being sneaky with never one thought to WHY he felt he had to be sneaky. He was merely trying to survive. Any one of us being starved would be sneaking anything and everything to get something to eat and not die.
So strange why SHE was so fixated on food and the control of it. He wasn’t preoccupied with it, she was.
She's just using sneaky as a cop out like justification. Anything to try&put herself on a pedistole.@@Shylade
she’s her own worst witness for the defense… she’s obviously a blatant liar
Are you talking about Pippi Longstocking?
The defence wants her put away for life too, that’s why they let her testify.
Does her testimony remind you of AH? IMO, they could be twins on the stand.
But she doesn’t remember her lies so they don’t count 😂
@@caitlankelly4367 oh ok 👍 🤣🤣🤣 I forgot that a jury would find that a valid defense! 😅
Her attorney really told her “get up there and act like your life depends on it, because it does” and she things she ate 😂
She could have just not testified and admitted she was guilty instead of making a mockery of the justice system. Wasting tax payers money.
The poor kid had Autism and she calls him sneaky and deceitful. Basically abused for having a disability, her own bloody son. This woman is dangerous and should never be released.
The harder part that she continues to call him dummy because he’s autistic…that’s what upsets me
@@angeleyes2093 Timothy wasnt her son, he was her step son. Which is just as bad but in a different sadistic way.
Amen!
@@squnk3613
Timothy was Shanda's son.
Paul,Nolan and his sister are children from her first marriage Marriage to Eric Ferguson.
Gabriel was from her marriage to Adam who died.
He lived without his medications the entire time he lived with Shonda too.