Her lawyer said that there are two sides to every case but quite forgot to mention what the other side in this case is. It seemed to me to be that last desperate effort of a lawyer with nothing to say.
Rightfully so, he's probably disgusted that he has to defend her. He probably has a bunch of lines he normally throws out, and 99% of cases that would be a fair line... This is the worse case alot of cops had seen, so the lawyer wouldn't have done this before. @@TheFakeyCakeMaker
Exactly 😢. She is a Narcissist and a Psychopath who is Sadistic. She enjoyed seeing the kids Suffering and she is Totally detaughed. She is Totally unable to feel anything. She should suffer many years 💔 in Prison. She is sad and Sorry just for herself that she was Caught. Efrat.
It wasn't just 2 kids that she abused, she abused her niece, those 2 kids, and who knows how many others in between over the last 15 years. Past behavior is predictive of future behavior and unfortunately l don't see too many people coming forward because she psychologically brainwashed her victims into thinking they deserved it and the parents that dished it out certainly aren't going to turn themselves in as the abusers.
“I didn’t go to trial because I didn’t want to make the children relive what happened to them” is a really funny way of saying “I don’t feel like listening to my victims explain what I did to them”
It’s counterproductive to consider her a psychopath because then she would be committed instead of incarcerated. She’s not mentally ill. She’s just evil.
as you watch the last part, where she reads her "statement", you see just how shallow it is and her own lawyer openly acknowledges that...even he doesn't seem to have much stock in her, which says all the more. The judge knows exactly what Hilderbrandt is, the architect in this whole thing...she will never 'get rehabilitated', only become more enraged and hide future acts better when given the opportunity. Psychopaths do not change.
This judge is rather - nutless - himself. Almost speaking like she was someone 'hanging around' not the chthonian DEMON who tortured them WITHIN AN INCH OF THEIR LIVES.
As if you would not be saying that she would not be honest IF she DID say that she is sorry for, and that she regrets what she did, FOR THE VICTIMS, FOR THE CHILDREN, as if you would THEN not say that she would only be sorry for herself and that she would only regret that she got caught. You would.
Unbelievably brave given he must of been terrified he would have to face their anger and their punishments if he had failed in getting help for himself and his sister.
Brave, only in that he and all those kids must have been really messed up under mom's spell. Because in most other child abuse situations, a twelve year old boy would have taken a baseball bat to his sadistically abusive mother. A 12 year old kid is about in 7th grade. 7th graders play rough tackle league football, wrestling, hockey. In some countries they fight in wars. Why didn't he escape sooner? I guess he was brainwashed into thinking Satan would catch him and drag him home to mommy and her torture schemes.
Esp being caught last year and likely punished severely. He risked his life to get away again. Jodi was out there 20 mins after he escaped looking for him. Imagine if that kind neighbor had turned him away.
She won’t. Utah state penal code prevents consecutive terms exceeding 30 years, and unfortunately it’s unlikely she’ll serve even that. Given that she has no prior felony convictions, (and is a respected member of the Mormon church which runs that state like a mafia) a parole board will probably free her in as little as 4 years.
@@peaceroolz She is NOT a respected member of the LDS church, She went far against it's teachings. I'm sure she will be excommunicated for what she has done.
@@lindas.1145 and I hope she is… but her influence within the church is well documented. The only reason she got away with it this long is her reputation.
Agree…the reality and the repeated details of what she has done for months to years is FAR worse. Just an evil women, who was shockingly embraced by Mormon church.
I couldn't believe that when he said it!! I wonder if defense attorneys secretly ask for forgiveness when they stand up for their sicko clients like that!
@@sheldonmurphy6031most defense attorneys separate their morality from their contractual duty to their client, thus there is no reason to ask for forgiveness as it’s simply an occupational requirement. That being said there are many defense attorneys who avoid certain clients based on their charges.
I really don't know what's worse...a mother who torments her own children and monetizes them or someone who encourages and assists a mother to do those things to her child. They are both equally sick!
I thought the same thing when Ruby was sentenced. If she takes the classes and programs and stays out of trouble, they could both be out in four years. Horrible.
She was complicit in ATTEMPTED MURDER - she was even planning a new and improved VENUE FOR MURDER! The prison sentence should not be for FELONY CHILD ABUSE but for ATTEMPTED MURDER!
Child abuse is a worse sentence if she goes to prison proper, they will not let leave mentally intact at the very least. Every prisoner knows what she did.
Because Hildibrand talked Frank into buying a LARGE property in the Arizona desert. She had stated, “let’s see if they try to run away here”! A Detective said IF they had moved, the children wouldn’t have lived after being subject to the outside punishments they were previously subjective to. Arizona is hotter than where they were!
@@modernbaseballfanclub Why are you NOT ?? This animal could've EASILY killed little children, how do you know she wasn't trying too, until she was caught ? Where you there ? Are you as sick as her and frankie ?
Jodi had ruined so many lives, even before she did this to the children of Ruby Franky.. Never forget as a therapist she hated men and many woman at Jody's behest were pitted against their own husbands and even had to divorce them. We have seen how much she hated children too. She should absolutely not be allowed back into society because she has no regrets whatever and would just continue ruining even more lives in the future! I assume that all her diplomas as a therapist have already been taken away from her for live?
Most likely no one will ever know, but considering the comments on various videos about how negatively Hildebrandt affected their parents and families, likely hundreds. Maybe even more indirectly through her dissemination of her deranged "teachings".
The church also pushed her on many families as an expert in marriage and family counseling. It's bad when that many people trusted the church in this aspect
Children are never listened to or taken seriously until they are either tortured or dead. The Mormon Church should apologize to their many parishioners whom they referred to Hildebrant as a couple's therapist.
The other side is religious beliefs. They were following their religious mindset to punish those kids. Watched the Mormon stories podcast, Dr Delin explained their journal and the religious leaders they were contacting at the time 😢😮
"She made decisions with respect to the DISCIPLINE of those children," are you kidding ?! Discipline? How disgusting of her lawyer to refer to the torturous abuses these babies endured as discipline 😡 this was not discipline in any sense of the word, how infuriating!!
More than likely, the lawyer is a Mormon also and since the Mormon church recommended her to many families, he’s probably got an obligation to try to make her out to be somewhat appealing or innocent.
@Mehki227 , I would have to disagree. Prison politics always come into play. You have women who are locked for selling drugs or other crimes. Those women miss and love their kids just like anyone would. So when they get a new female inmate and they find out she hurt and tortured her kids. Someone will get at her.
I don't disagree but that's not how the law works. They weren't in his custody and they didn't live together when the abuse escalated. The court would have to prove he willingly knew and did nothing, which is near impossible here.
@@khaIid624What are you four years old? He's a defense attorney. No matter how disgusting the crime or the defendant, everyone is entitled to skilled and effective legal representation. The man is simply doing his job.
She says, “I love these children”. That’s been proven questionable. If that little boy had not escaped, this situation could have ended in an even more horrific way.
As a licensed therapist myself, I'm curious to know what her education and credentials are. No professional, ethical therapist would EVER do what she did.
Jodi has an M.S. in Educational Psychology. Those are sketchy credentials for Family/Child Therapy. That was the 1st thing I looked up. With that degree, isn't it usually for high school counseling, setting students' schedules, etc?
@Yesindeed126therapy is a job. It requires a clinical psychology major and years in training. But Jodi couldn’t diagnose or get money from health insurance. She wasn’t a licensed therapist !
@Yesindeed126I'm in this line of work; you obviously have issues but refuse to get the help, because you have been hurt by people who you trusted wouldn't hurt!! I'll 🙏 for you
Our laws on crimes against children are awful!!! I think the judge in the Shanda VanDerark trial is a hero- he said nope, I’m going outside the guidelines given to me and giving you more time because the guidelines aren’t enough for this. We need lobbyists in every state to care about kids and not some of the crap they lobby for instead!!!
Besides Jodies own niece, Who described Suffering all of these Punishments for years before, Jodie has torn apart families, Banishing husband's the same way she did to Kevin- Look into her counseling scam called connections-very destructive, traumatizing programs Jodi subjected innocent families to. She's PURE EVIL.
Well apparently she also tried to destroy her own niece, but that girl was a teenager, smarter than the average bear, and noped out of that woman's control. I can't help but wonder how many people were out there abusing their children after getting involved with the vlog these two were running?
@peace-yv4qd A lot of adult lives too. And she had plans to have a slave colony of little children working their land for her profit out in the desert.
Look up cases where she is the assigned counselor in deciding child custody.....I bet there are so many....she is a dangerous person because she was given so much power
Hildebrandt's sentence should have been life in prison. Imagine if the boy who escaped had not, this horrific treatment would have continued and possibly killed one of the children. Hildebrandt is pure evil, and evil has no place in our society.
It's a job someone must do and pays very well. Most defense attorneys have no conscience in life that's why they're able to do it. They show no empathy and have no remorse, just like their clients.
@@romuluslives2707that’s the thing that makes me scratch my head- public defense attorneys don’t make a lot! Like it really is a head scratcher and I wonder how they lay their heads on their pillows at night or look at themselves in a mirror.
There are probably some that are innocent. That's why we have this system. "Better to let 10 guilty men go than convict 1 innocent man" (because that innocent person may be you) No system is perfect, but I wouldn't trade ours for 95% of other countries systems.
She probably won’t receive parole until she does take responsibility, so let’s hope she remains in denial long enough to earn the full 60-year sentence.
I wish Utah actually gave out definitive sentences instead of hilariously wide ranges with a bunch of secrecy and shrugging about how long it will last.
This monster never apologized to the kids she terrorized, she didn’t apologize to the community, to the counseling field, and to all the people she harmed since day one of her craziness. I hope she leaves prison in a bag.
What she did is beyond horrific. I am so glad the judge spoke his mind to her, although who knows if it actually affected her. I pray that she turns to Jesus.
Truly a soulless, wicked, empty, excuse of a human. The crocodile tears won’t work on your fellow inmates. Crimes against children are unforgivable, there is no redemption for an evil like Jodi Hildebrant.
Thinking of her niece Jessie today. Jessie is a wonderful young person that is an inspiration to me! The fact that she is who she is today despite the horrors that Jodi inflicted upon her is amazing. I only wish Jodi could be charged with the crimes she committed against Jessie❤️
She did the same thing to her niece 15 years ago and didn’t care. She thinks she is right she pleaded guilty because she could get life. I heard her on the phone say they were evil and it says so in the Bible. On one of those phone calls.
Inmates as you know for the most part hate people that harm children. There are many women in prison who have children. Trust me, she will be punished, probably worse than what she did to those kids.
Indeed, she SHOULD !! One great fact is that as soon as it arrives in prison, she WILL be "dealt with properly" by mothers in that prison who haven't seen their children in a long time. It will be punished for it's crimes !!
I hate when people say "the judges failed the victims." More often than not, judges are bound by a certain sentence range for many cases that are very low for a majority of crimes. It's not neccessarily the judge's fault that he's restricted by what law makers have imposed.
because of that 30 day appeal clause in Utah. if he gives the full sentence today they will appeal. if the state of utah waits until March 19 (its a leap year this year) - they cant appeal.
Utah's strange justice system. The parole board gets to determine the sentence and if and when she might be up for parole or not. She could serve a minimum of 4 years to a maximum of 60 years.
It is part of how the penalties are set out and is also to do with the plea agreement he was following the plea. It puts it into the hand of the parole board after four years, I'm assuming she has to do the four years at least? As different offenses come under different penalty and sentencing laws. The judge has to follow what is set out from the powers at be. Judges don't make the sentence up at the time their are rules and guidelines, parameters to follow.
It’s incredible how much remorse she feels in court when she’s being sentenced but when she’s on the phone to her friends she expresses absolutely none.
Jodi tortured these children and is sub human - never, never let this person out. Lets not forget all of the families and children that she destroyed with the Mormon Church helping all the way.
You know what irks me is knowing the fact that Kevin said there were several FAMILES that Jodi was counseling, so every single one of those families should be having a welfare check into those children as well. I'm sure those children were being treated exactly the same way, and those parents aren't going to turn themselves in for child abuse if, like Kevin said, they adored Jodi's teachings so damn much.
If this woman were released tomorrow, she would be terrorizing new children by the end of the week. There is not a doubt in my mind she will return to committing even more heinous acts than before. When she began her pitiful speech, and said she truly loves these children, my jaw actually physically hit the floor. I cannot believe she actually said that. She is so much scarier than Ruby will ever be. This woman is so calculated it’s unreal. She is not human.
To: Riley’s: No Ruby is every bit has calculated, sadistic, scary, and evil as Jodi. Ruby is just a better and more “polished” actress than Jodi. Jodi and Ruby are soul mates in every since of the word!
Jodi had ruined so many lives, even before she did this to the children of Ruby Franky.. Never forget as a therapist she hated men and many woman at Jody's behest were pitted against their own husbands and even had to divorce them. We have seen how much she hated children too. She should absolutely not be allowed back into society because she has no regrets whatever and would just continue ruining even more lives in the future! I assume that all her diplomas as a therapist have already been taken away from her for live?
Yes especially since she is not a mother with unconditional love in her heart. Sorry she brainwashed herself to believe that they deserved to be punished. I hope those children find accepting, loving and nurturing homes to live in and receive emotional healing that they need.
So, basically the judge sentenced these 2 monsters to 4 years in prison for the atrocities they committed against CHILDREN; and left it to the LDS church to determine how much longer they should remain in prison. RIDICULOUS!
It was clear that her lawyer's hands were tied and he had nothing to work with. She clearly thinks the children and/or Ruby were wholly to blame, as evidenced by her lack of cooperation with the pre-sentence report team and her extremely sparse statement. She is a deluded and dangerous person.
She's written a book, already, so go read that. Apparently her dad was military and had a harsh upbringing. She is evil but pretty smart, I'm sure she has a host of psych disorders.
He is in the court room shaking his head saying Yes to this was Tragic what happened to his children at 9:14. Kevin's son, Chad is sitting next to him. I think Kevin should be accountable too! He was involved with things that were done while him and Ruby were together for years.
You guys need better understanding of sentencing guidelines. She got 4 CONSECUTIVE sentences meaning multiply the first sentence times 4! So she’s looking at 60 years max but she def won’t do 60.
She’s not remorseful at all! She didn’t say I’m sorry for what I’ve done to those poor children. It was all about her. She took zero responsibility! Disgusting!
That’s my thought. People are complaining about the lack of time (rightfully so) but those people and guards in prison will be merciless and they will handle her without fear. They might not make it out. Oh well those kids deserves justice.
The ONLY reason I did not go to trial was to spare the children from having to relive blah blah blah, she says. Does that mean she thinks she is innocent? She's a liar.
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2:40 no remorse what she did. No soul in her body 🧐😐😐😐😒
what about those so called father ?
There most definitely are NOT "two sides" in a child-torture case.
Her lawyer said that there are two sides to every case but quite forgot to mention what the other side in this case is. It seemed to me to be that last desperate effort of a lawyer with nothing to say.
@@Hereford1642literally, embarrassing to watch.
I know. It was like... This dude actually said that but after he said it see him fumbling? He knew he'd messed up with that statement.
You are absolutely right. The sides we know little of is the children's sides. What little has been revealed is beyond horrifying!
Rightfully so, he's probably disgusted that he has to defend her. He probably has a bunch of lines he normally throws out, and 99% of cases that would be a fair line... This is the worse case alot of cops had seen, so the lawyer wouldn't have done this before. @@TheFakeyCakeMaker
She’s not sorry for the children, she’s just sorry she got caught.
She's a trafficker.
I 100% agree she is just trying to get away scott free when this judge will not let her
@@edmonton8196 She is a trafficker to say the least.
Every Parson is like that when they behave really badly
Exactly 😢. She is a Narcissist and a Psychopath who is Sadistic. She enjoyed seeing the kids Suffering and she is Totally detaughed. She is Totally unable to feel anything. She should suffer many years 💔 in Prison. She is sad and Sorry just for herself that she was Caught. Efrat.
IF ONLY... there was a sentence of, "Your punishment will be to live
under the same treatment you gave THOSE TWO KIDS!!!"
It wasn't just 2 kids that she abused, she abused her niece, those 2 kids, and who knows how many others in between over the last 15 years. Past behavior is predictive of future behavior and unfortunately l don't see too many people coming forward because she psychologically brainwashed her victims into thinking they deserved it and the parents that dished it out certainly aren't going to turn themselves in as the abusers.
Except it’s so heinous and cruel that it’s unconstitutional…yet MULTIPLE kids (that we know of) endured that 🙄
Yeah, and watch her complain about the discomfort of her bed in prison.
She to get the same treatment she gave to those kids
@@lilpinksliplee7310 or that they just don't know yet. give it a few more years. I'm also sure if they do know they are afraid of the publicity
She's done this to multiple families, she deserves way more charges.
It should NEVER be allowed out of prison, in my opinion. A sickening, vile, monster of a being !!
she even did this to her own niece who later escaped from her
I really hope the niece comes out and presses charges.
Oh my😢
“I didn’t go to trial because I didn’t want to make the children relive what happened to them” is a really funny way of saying “I don’t feel like listening to my victims explain what I did to them”
Spot on. Disgusting
Also, they don’t want the rest of the world to hear how bad those children had it. 😔
Yep and her statement was definitely an admission of guilt.
It's actually a mercy to the children to not have to testify. I think it would be re-traumatizing for them.
It sounded to me, more like she did not want the world to hear the graphic details of the obscene torture that she visited on the children.
She has no remorse and is a true psychopath. She needs to stay in prison for life. She will harm people again if she is released
!!!!!!!!!!!
Narcissist almost all family have one.
Absolutely.
It’s counterproductive to consider her a psychopath because then she would be committed instead of incarcerated. She’s not mentally ill. She’s just evil.
as you watch the last part, where she reads her "statement", you see just how shallow it is and her own lawyer openly acknowledges that...even he doesn't seem to have much stock in her, which says all the more. The judge knows exactly what Hilderbrandt is, the architect in this whole thing...she will never 'get rehabilitated', only become more enraged and hide future acts better when given the opportunity. Psychopaths do not change.
I didn’t hear “I’m sorry….” or “I regret…” What a monster.
This judge is rather - nutless - himself. Almost speaking like she was someone 'hanging around' not the chthonian DEMON who tortured them WITHIN AN INCH OF THEIR LIVES.
She's not a mother
As if you would not be saying that she would not be honest IF she DID say that she is sorry for, and that she regrets what she did, FOR THE VICTIMS, FOR THE CHILDREN, as if you would THEN not say that she would only be sorry for herself and that she would only regret that she got caught. You would.
What a brave little boy to run away to seek help and the truth
I can’t believe him I’m so proud of him
Unbelievably brave given he must of been terrified he would have to face their anger and their punishments if he had failed in getting help for himself and his sister.
Brave, only in that he and all those kids must have been really messed up under mom's spell. Because in most other child abuse situations, a twelve year old boy would have taken a baseball bat to his sadistically abusive mother. A 12 year old kid is about in 7th grade. 7th graders play rough tackle league football, wrestling, hockey. In some countries they fight in wars. Why didn't he escape sooner? I guess he was brainwashed into thinking Satan would catch him and drag him home to mommy and her torture schemes.
Esp being caught last year and likely punished severely. He risked his life to get away again. Jodi was out there 20 mins after he escaped looking for him. Imagine if that kind neighbor had turned him away.
Total desperation!
She is not a passenger on this train of child abuse. She is a willing driver.
They both were…mom Frankie was abusive way before she met this monster.
I love that the judge didn't believe for a second that she had any remorse.
Yes
I agree also.
Her own lawyer Made a point to explain that even Though she may seem insensitive or manipulative, she's sincere. RIGHT.
She needs 60 years in prison for what she did to those children.
She won’t. Utah state penal code prevents consecutive terms exceeding 30 years, and unfortunately it’s unlikely she’ll serve even that. Given that she has no prior felony convictions, (and is a respected member of the Mormon church which runs that state like a mafia) a parole board will probably free her in as little as 4 years.
@@peaceroolz She is NOT a respected member of the LDS church, She went far against it's teachings. I'm sure she will be excommunicated for what she has done.
@@lindas.1145 and I hope she is… but her influence within the church is well documented. The only reason she got away with it this long is her reputation.
I bet Ruby won't spend more than a year in there and this one probably no more than 4. It's sad they can't get a harsher sentence
@@marshapieroni6677 it’s one year minimum, for each of the four charges, to run consecutively, so it’ll be at least four years.
These two cruel individuals should never be paroled
"She is not the person that she has been portrayed to be." No, she's worse.
Agree…the reality and the repeated details of what she has done for months to years is FAR worse. Just an evil women, who was shockingly embraced by Mormon church.
I couldn't believe that when he said it!! I wonder if defense attorneys secretly ask for forgiveness when they stand up for their sicko clients like that!
I said the same thing! She’s worse. Who knows how many more victims will come out now that she’s in prison.
@@sassysue6472I absolutely agree 100%
@@sheldonmurphy6031most defense attorneys separate their morality from their contractual duty to their client, thus there is no reason to ask for forgiveness as it’s simply an occupational requirement. That being said there are many defense attorneys who avoid certain clients based on their charges.
Anyone who hurts a child should not be free....ever.
Amen to that my friend
Period
Agree...
Same thing for animal abusers
Especially when there is torture involved.
I really don't know what's worse...a mother who torments her own children and monetizes them or someone who encourages and assists a mother to do those things to her child. They are both equally sick!
May she receive as much comfort and mercy as she gave to those poor children
Amen
They will get her in jail. No one lets child abusers get away with it
What did she do to them?
@@tanjanique100it’s mentioned in the video but some incredibly awful stuff. she deserves the maximum sentence.
@@tanjanique100
You need to Google it, I did and broke my heart...
1 to 15 years consequetive - they better make her serve the full 60 years instead of a measely 4 years.
I thought the same thing when Ruby was sentenced. If she takes the classes and programs and stays out of trouble, they could both be out in four years. Horrible.
The max sentence is 30 years for second degree felony in Utah
Should have been at least 4-15 years consecutive
I agree, but we all know that's not likely.
@@ElizabethT45What?????
She was complicit in ATTEMPTED MURDER - she was even planning a new and improved VENUE FOR MURDER! The prison sentence should not be for FELONY CHILD ABUSE but for ATTEMPTED MURDER!
Child abuse is a worse sentence if she goes to prison proper, they will not let leave mentally intact at the very least. Every prisoner knows what she did.
Why are you throwing around the word murder like this?
Because Hildibrand talked Frank into buying a LARGE property in the Arizona desert. She had stated, “let’s see if they try to run away here”! A Detective said IF they had moved, the children wouldn’t have lived after being subject to the outside punishments they were previously subjective to. Arizona is hotter than where they were!
@@modernbaseballfanclub Why are you NOT ?? This animal could've EASILY killed little children, how do you know she wasn't trying too, until she was caught ? Where you there ? Are you as sick as her and frankie ?
they follow the same religious institutions that Chad and Lori Daybell were following when they ended up the devil in their kiddos 😮
She didn’t go to trial because of all the other victims that would have come forward as witnesses, showing in full her wickedness!
Jodi had ruined so many lives, even before she did this to the children of Ruby Franky.. Never forget as a therapist she hated men and many woman at Jody's behest were pitted against their own husbands and even had to divorce them. We have seen how much she hated children too. She should absolutely not be allowed back into society because she has no regrets whatever and would just continue ruining even more lives in the future! I assume that all her diplomas as a therapist have already been taken away from her for live?
EXACTLY.
Pure evil. Death penalty or life without parole!
The last thing I heard was that they were not! Hopefully that is no longer the case.
Exactly
She says she loves the children?! She’s unbelievable!!
I'm so glad I never had that kind of love inflicted upon me
The audacity of this lady.
Yea that comment was her biggest BS!
She’s a psychopath. She’ll exploit anything she thinks will make her appear to have normal human emotions.
Notice how she didn’t mention her beliefs were wrong or that she harmed those children like Ruby did
Gosh, I really hate to think if she didn’t “sincerely love those children” what she would have done to them.
Jodi is outrageous.
It's only too bad nobody listened to her niece. How many children did she destroy in the decades.
Most likely no one will ever know, but considering the comments on various videos about how negatively Hildebrandt affected their parents and families, likely hundreds. Maybe even more indirectly through her dissemination of her deranged "teachings".
The church also pushed her on many families as an expert in marriage and family counseling. It's bad when that many people trusted the church in this aspect
@@tulam1645 and expert that couldn't maintain a healthy relationship with her children, family...and was divorced.... sure...
I am so glad that 12 year old boy escaped. The neighbor was devastated with how bad the boy was.
Children are never listened to or taken seriously until they are either tortured or dead. The Mormon Church should apologize to their many parishioners whom they referred to Hildebrant as a couple's therapist.
The look on her face says "I am flabbergasted I'm being charged and guilty"🤮🤮🤮
she's like "abuse???? WHAT ABUSE!?"
Absolutely! She’s not at all remorseful or ashamed. She’s shocked she’s being persecuted.
No Sir, There are NOT two sides to a child abuse case.
And he didn't have that other side, thereby proving there isn't any.
that's just defense attorney drivel
The other side is religious beliefs. They were following their religious mindset to punish those kids. Watched the Mormon stories podcast, Dr Delin explained their journal and the religious leaders they were contacting at the time 😢😮
@@EverythingPlus.101 it was a case of a couple of mental defectives shaping religion to fit their "beliefs"
As soon as she said @ I love those children” I was done listening to her statement.
She is discussing
@@kenc1800 What is she discussing?
"She made decisions with respect to the DISCIPLINE of those children," are you kidding ?! Discipline? How disgusting of her lawyer to refer to the torturous abuses these babies endured as discipline 😡 this was not discipline in any sense of the word, how infuriating!!
SPOT ON!
More than likely, the lawyer is a Mormon also and since the Mormon church recommended her to many families, he’s probably got an obligation to try to make her out to be somewhat appealing or innocent.
The fact that they had millions of followers of families eating up the parenting advice and thinking it’s acceptable to deny children food and water!
Clearly this one in the video didn't skip any meals.
They both got off way too light!Your Justice system is disgusting !🤮
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We are unfortunately aware of this 😢
Sadly a lot of places in the US are like this. It’s disgusting. And I’m saying this as an American myself.
Children and women receive lighter sentences.
Anyone got the balls to say why?
Crimes commited against chrildren should be held to a higher degree.
I love the Judge's reaction. Raising his brows : "You terrorized them!"
Taking a plea is not the same as accepting responsibility.
She will have to be on protective custody. When the inmates find out what she did. She will learn firsthand how it feels to be a victim.
No she won't be and women's prisons tend to be different than male ones. They tend to not punish each other for their crimes🤷🏽♀️
@Mehki227 , I would have to disagree. Prison politics always come into play. You have women who are locked for selling drugs or other crimes. Those women miss and love their kids just like anyone would. So when they get a new female inmate and they find out she hurt and tortured her kids. Someone will get at her.
@@Mehki227 B.S. No idea what you're talking about !!
Not in a female prison.
Depends. Most of the women in the Utah prison system are there for the same reason.
How did Franke's husband get off scot free? His failure to protect his own children was criminal.
I don't disagree but that's not how the law works.
They weren't in his custody and they didn't live together when the abuse escalated. The court would have to prove he willingly knew and did nothing, which is near impossible here.
He should have been prosecuted with them. He’s a disgusting human being who cares more for his psychopath wife than his poor children.
What are you talking about, he was not there she made him leave?
He was simply dominated by his psycho wife. I guess "Priesthood Power" failed here to a sadist controlling woman.
Hildebrand told him that for the sake of the marriage he needed to leave and stay away.
I bet her lawyer will be jumping for joy once he’s done with Jodi
Her lawyer is just as disgusting for his attitude and statements
@@khaIid624he can't show negativity toward his client, it would be inappropriate. but it is also understandable 😬
@@colorbugoriginals4457 He acts like this is some big inconvenience and it’s so disrespectful to the victims
I hope he charged her top dollar!!!
@@khaIid624What are you four years old? He's a defense attorney. No matter how disgusting the crime or the defendant, everyone is entitled to skilled and effective legal representation. The man is simply doing his job.
She says, “I love these children”. That’s been proven questionable. If that little boy had not escaped, this situation could have ended in an even more horrific way.
She has an exceptionally warped notion of what ‘love’ means. She hasn’t a bloody clue!
She loves the kids but blames the kids wow
Funny to say, you really love those innocent children, but when you went around destroying marriages and children you madam didn’t care.
It's unbelievable and scary how much she got away with for years before she was finally convicted.
I am 100% positive other adults knew about this abuse. I hope they never have a day of peace for the rest of their lives.
She was referred to many clients by the Mo church, who sanctioned and protected her.
The “church” supports child abuse
As a licensed therapist myself, I'm curious to know what her education and credentials are. No professional, ethical therapist would EVER do what she did.
Jodi has an M.S. in Educational Psychology. Those are sketchy credentials for Family/Child Therapy. That was the 1st thing I looked up. With that degree, isn't it usually for high school counseling, setting students' schedules, etc?
Educational psychologist. That’s it ! She only was a therapist bc the Mormon church allowed her to do counseling !
@Yesindeed126therapy is a job. It requires a clinical psychology major and years in training. But Jodi couldn’t diagnose or get money from health insurance. She wasn’t a licensed therapist !
She had Mormon Bishops' ears and eyes. Extremely dangerous
@Yesindeed126I'm in this line of work; you obviously have issues but refuse to get the help, because you have been hurt by people who you trusted wouldn't hurt!! I'll 🙏 for you
Bull crap! If she had done these things against adults the prison sentence would be longer. Outrageous. Unacceptable.
I doubt it. Women kill their kids all the time and receive little jail time. Women live life on easy mode because reasons, legally speaking.
Our laws on crimes against children are awful!!! I think the judge in the Shanda VanDerark trial is a hero- he said nope, I’m going outside the guidelines given to me and giving you more time because the guidelines aren’t enough for this.
We need lobbyists in every state to care about kids and not some of the crap they lobby for instead!!!
This is a plea bargain. The judge is following it.
What is she getting
Being a first offence - some leniency is granted subsequent to parole board approval.
Her lawyer is REACHING
The question remains. How many other children's lives has this woman ruined?
Besides Jodies own niece, Who described Suffering all of these Punishments for years before, Jodie has torn apart families, Banishing husband's the same way she did to Kevin- Look into her counseling scam called connections-very destructive, traumatizing programs Jodi subjected innocent families to. She's PURE EVIL.
Damaged marriages & family with punishment & shame & high truth responsibility & consequences.
Well apparently she also tried to destroy her own niece, but that girl was a teenager, smarter than the average bear, and noped out of that woman's control.
I can't help but wonder how many people were out there abusing their children after getting involved with the vlog these two were running?
@peace-yv4qd A lot of adult lives too. And she had plans to have a slave colony of little children working their land for her profit out in the desert.
Look up cases where she is the assigned counselor in deciding child custody.....I bet there are so many....she is a dangerous person because she was given so much power
They both deserve 60 years each account
The "nodding absent father". His absence makes him as guilty as far as I am concerned.
Adults are supposed to protect children…adults with specialized training should protect children and you failed, Jodi. Well said, Judge, well said!
So did the state and the judge blaming Jody for everything. Both of those two women are pure evil and they shouldn't of got plea deals for this case.
She was the Instigator, the manipulator, the deceiver, and as such she is the worst of the two imho.
Why isn’t the father getting called out. Did he just walk away?
Some people genuinely dont deserve the air in their lungs. Jodi and ruby are two of these people.
Ruby especially. RUBY was the mother. NO ONE could tell me how to raise, feed, teach or discipline my children. NO ONE.
I agree! 💯
Hildebrandt's sentence should have been life in prison. Imagine if the boy who escaped had not, this horrific treatment would have continued and possibly killed one of the children. Hildebrandt is pure evil, and evil has no place in our society.
Given that her phone calls are recorded, and she does not accept responsibility and blames the kids THEY'D BETTER MAKE HER SERVE THE MAX!😡
I agree with you!
I could never be a defence lawyer, imagine having to defend child abusers?
Even though I believe every indicted person has a right to an attorney, I don't think I could stomach the job.
Right! Look at Johnson, Shanda Vander Ark's lawyer, he said it was the worst case he ever worked.
It's a job someone must do and pays very well. Most defense attorneys have no conscience in life that's why they're able to do it. They show no empathy and have no remorse, just like their clients.
@@romuluslives2707that’s the thing that makes me scratch my head- public defense attorneys don’t make a lot! Like it really is a head scratcher and I wonder how they lay their heads on their pillows at night or look at themselves in a mirror.
There are probably some that are innocent. That's why we have this system. "Better to let 10 guilty men go than convict 1 innocent man" (because that innocent person may be you) No system is perfect, but I wouldn't trade ours for 95% of other countries systems.
These women are beyond cruel and disgusting !!! 😠😠
The way her statement started with "I"...all about her.
So glad the Judge called out her behaviour and accountability in all of this.
She never took responsibility.
Exactly, she did not acknowledge that she did something wrong. Embarrassing and further proof how evil she is.
@@angelacompres7947she is horrifying. $50 says she starts a cult in prison.
She probably won’t receive parole until she does take responsibility, so let’s hope she remains in denial long enough to earn the full 60-year sentence.
Jodi never takes responsibility despite that being a hallmark of her teachings
Neither did Ruby. Both are only sorry they got caught.
She shows no remorse at all, not a tear, no compassion. She does not deserve to be a mum.
I wish Utah actually gave out definitive sentences instead of hilariously wide ranges with a bunch of secrecy and shrugging about how long it will last.
I truly don't understand the logic.
@@Jenahh-aye The Mormon church runs the whole state of Utah. I'm sure this judge is Mormon.
Covering for each other.
@@ettajfan5882
Exactly.... the judge expects the same leniency when he's busted
@@Jenahh-ayewhere is the logic in no answer plain and simple
She’s just upset because she got caught. She needs to be in prison forever.
Agreed
"She is not the person she is portrayed to be." No, she is much WORSE!
This monster never apologized to the kids she terrorized, she didn’t apologize to the community, to the counseling field, and to all the people she harmed since day one of her craziness. I hope she leaves prison in a bag.
Oh I’m sure the both won’t have a easy time in prison they don’t like kids being hurt.
What does it matter? It's not like anyone would take her apology seriously
What she did is beyond horrific. I am so glad the judge spoke his mind to her, although who knows if it actually affected her. I pray that she turns to Jesus.
Only one bag?
What does an apology do? Nothing. Even if she would honestly apologize the trauma is done.
Truly a soulless, wicked, empty, excuse of a human. The crocodile tears won’t work on your fellow inmates. Crimes against children are unforgivable, there is no redemption for an evil like Jodi Hildebrant.
To the Judge and to the penal system.
You cannot rehabilitate a demon.
Thinking of her niece Jessie today. Jessie is a wonderful young person that is an inspiration to me! The fact that she is who she is today despite the horrors that Jodi inflicted upon her is amazing. I only wish Jodi could be charged with the crimes she committed against Jessie❤️
I think the same. Jessie should also sue her for damages.
Jessie uses they/them pronouns. ❤
I was thinking about her as well 🙏🏻❤️
Agreed. Jessi deserves justice too
@@kimcarpenter3611they/them
She did the same thing to her niece 15 years ago and didn’t care. She thinks she is right she pleaded guilty because she could get life. I heard her on the phone say they were evil and it says so in the Bible. On one of those phone calls.
They should make her and Ruby endure the same "punishments" that they did to their kids. Every day while in prison.
That would be fair
Inmates as you know for the most part hate people that harm children. There are many women in prison who have children. Trust me, she will be punished, probably worse than what she did to those kids.
@@dianemorris5816Agree!
this psychopath should be locked up for life!!
Indeed, she SHOULD !! One great fact is that as soon as it arrives in prison, she WILL be "dealt with properly" by mothers in that prison who haven't seen their children in a long time. It will be punished for it's crimes !!
Please someone track her customers to find other abused children
Yes, those are the forgotten children in this horrific story. How many parents watched this sick u-tuber and followed her advice and example! 😡
Mormon Stories Podcast
Yes this!
The judge, the justice system, the families and the Mormon church failed the poor kids disgraceful!!!!
Saying the Mormon church failed a family is like saying water is wet.
-ikr .. !-
How did the judge fail the kids? She could do 60years with what he sentenced her to
I hate when people say "the judges failed the victims." More often than not, judges are bound by a certain sentence range for many cases that are very low for a majority of crimes. It's not neccessarily the judge's fault that he's restricted by what law makers have imposed.
@@BrysonSappingtonMusic The state of Utah is that better!!
Did her lawyer just say that there are TWO SIDES to every case. He needs to be seated in front of the ethics board
He’s just doing his job. He’s a defense attorney and no matter how terrible his client his he has to represent her fairly
I mean he's not wrong. The problem here is both sides of this story involve the mistreatment of children
Hes doing what hes payed to do. His job is to use any means necessary to defend his client, whether he likes it or not.
It’s his job bruh 😂😂
He is doing his job, relax. No ethics violated
The niece and prior husbands should sue and file charges next!!!
"I sincerely love these children." ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Yeah I checked out at that point . So fkg done 🤦🏻♀️
4 to 60 years - why cant the judge just commit to a definitive sentence - ridiculous
because of that 30 day appeal clause in Utah. if he gives the full sentence today they will appeal. if the state of utah waits until March 19 (its a leap year this year) - they cant appeal.
Utah's strange justice system. The parole board gets to determine the sentence and if and when she might be up for parole or not. She could serve a minimum of 4 years to a maximum of 60 years.
It is part of how the penalties are set out and is also to do with the plea agreement he was following the plea.
It puts it into the hand of the parole board after four years, I'm assuming she has to do the four years at least?
As different offenses come under different penalty and sentencing laws. The judge has to follow what is set out from the powers at be. Judges don't make the sentence up at the time their are rules and guidelines, parameters to follow.
Maximum of 30 years - not 60 - on second degree felonies in Utah. There was no chance of 60 years
@@crgirrard4210 Isn't it a maximum of 200 years? (4x 50 years consecutively = 200.)
It’s incredible how much remorse she feels in court when she’s being sentenced but when she’s on the phone to her friends she expresses absolutely none.
There is a special place in prison for child abusers.
6ft under...
Yeah...it's called Protective Custody. ( They'll eventually get her there too )
Jodi tortured these children and is sub human - never, never let this person out. Lets not forget all of the families and children that she destroyed with the Mormon Church helping all the way.
Yes, the mormon cult is hugely complicit in this matter!
THANK YOU TO THE BISHOP OF THE EDGEMONT 2nd WARD FOR REFERRING JODY TO MY PARENTS in the early 2000's!! YOU SUCK!
How much money was Jodi funneling to the church?
You know what irks me is knowing the fact that Kevin said there were several FAMILES that Jodi was counseling, so every single one of those families should be having a welfare check into those children as well. I'm sure those children were being treated exactly the same way, and those parents aren't going to turn themselves in for child abuse if, like Kevin said, they adored Jodi's teachings so damn much.
If this woman were released tomorrow, she would be terrorizing new children by the end of the week. There is not a doubt in my mind she will return to committing even more heinous acts than before. When she began her pitiful speech, and said she truly loves these children, my jaw actually physically hit the floor. I cannot believe she actually said that. She is so much scarier than Ruby will ever be. This woman is so calculated it’s unreal. She is not human.
To: Riley’s: No Ruby is every bit has calculated, sadistic, scary, and evil as Jodi. Ruby is just a better and more “polished” actress than Jodi. Jodi and Ruby are soul mates in every since of the word!
Jodi had ruined so many lives, even before she did this to the children of Ruby Franky.. Never forget as a therapist she hated men and many woman at Jody's behest were pitted against their own husbands and even had to divorce them. We have seen how much she hated children too. She should absolutely not be allowed back into society because she has no regrets whatever and would just continue ruining even more lives in the future! I assume that all her diplomas as a therapist have already been taken away from her for live?
Agreed
need to make sure that the public deals with her IF she gets out.
I have a feeling she'll be trying her best to establish a cult of faithful followers from behind the bars as well 😒
This woman doesn’t know what love means how dare she say she loves those poor kids.
Yes especially since she is not a mother with unconditional love in her heart. Sorry she brainwashed herself to believe that they deserved to be punished. I hope those children find accepting, loving and nurturing homes to live in and receive emotional healing that they need.
She should spend the rest of her life in prison
Franke is a grown woman she know what she was doing two of the most evil narcissists
And she did it smiling every time you saw the two of them together
Absolutely
Ruby still blamed others this morning.
She really did
And did thank yous like it was the Oscar's. She is a creep.
Wha a monster!
Ruby is evil!!
She did not. She took full responsibility.
Her lawyer's position: she's ok, she hasn't tied me up and starved me... 🤨
I hope Jodi is shown the same love that she showed the children. See how loving that is.
Thry need to release those phone conversations.
So, basically the judge sentenced these 2 monsters to 4 years in prison for the atrocities they committed against CHILDREN; and left it to the LDS church to determine how much longer they should remain in prison. RIDICULOUS!
All about the plea agreement. It is a minimum sentence and goes to 60 years it is left in the hand of the parole board.
Totally crazy . It's a 🤣
No the parole board decides how long and it’s not looking good for Jodi
It could be even worse - the sentences could have been concurrent.
@@khaIid624 the parole board is full with LDS members. They take care f their own.
When your attorney admits that your statement would appear hollow. That speaks volumes.
It was clear that her lawyer's hands were tied and he had nothing to work with. She clearly thinks the children and/or Ruby were wholly to blame, as evidenced by her lack of cooperation with the pre-sentence report team and her extremely sparse statement. She is a deluded and dangerous person.
Yep, he wasn't feelin' it
I'm so sorry I got caught, Judge.
Detached from reality, decency or even common sense. Well said!
I would love to study Jodi's personal history and childhood.
Just what went wrong, when, and how?
She's written a book, already, so go read that. Apparently her dad was military and had a harsh upbringing. She is evil but pretty smart, I'm sure she has a host of psych disorders.
She sincerely loves these children ? THAT IS NOT LOVE !😤
Please stop loving children...you suck at it.
She loves having power over people and children. She is a. Monster.
I too say that what she said was nothing more than steaming pile of dragon dung.
No it is not love at all on the contrary it's horrible😢
In religion, it is love. Such as love me forever or get thrown in a fire 🔥 forever.
Just when you think you've seen and heard the worst with these type of monsters, these two creatures have topped it. Very disturbing people.
Maybe I missed it. When will the children's father be charged with neglect?
He is in the court room shaking his head saying Yes to this was Tragic what happened to his children at 9:14. Kevin's son, Chad is sitting next to him. I think Kevin should be accountable too! He was involved with things that were done while him and Ruby were together for years.
So far he hasn’t been allowed to care for the children either. Hopefully they are in a loving, caring home somewhere safe.
1-15 years is a travesty. Woefully insufficient.
it's x 4 and it's maybe 60 years in prison it's a long sentence
You guys need better understanding of sentencing guidelines. She got 4 CONSECUTIVE sentences meaning multiply the first sentence times 4! So she’s looking at 60 years max but she def won’t do 60.
@@Manu_Lemoine_FR Thanks for clarifying. 👍
30 years max in Utah.
It should have been minimum 10-15 offered the parole board. 1 is disgusting for a minimum
That Punishment is not ENOUGH !!!!!! Those two demons should rot in jail !
Agreed
They were NOT sentenced to jail.
@@Ausgar-yc1yl They were , for 15 years.
@@ToTylkoJaaa There is NO such thing as being sentenced to jail for years. Try again
@@Ausgar-yc1yl Ok they were sentenced to 15 years in prison , better?
She’s not remorseful at all! She didn’t say I’m sorry for what I’ve done to those poor children. It was all about her. She took zero responsibility! Disgusting!
Long after time served these children will suffer life long trauma. Period.
She tortured children and adults
Once these pictures are released to the public, Jodi isn’t going to make it out of prison.
That’s my thought. People are complaining about the lack of time (rightfully so) but those people and guards in prison will be merciless and they will handle her without fear. They might not make it out. Oh well those kids deserves justice.
What pictures?
GOOD
The ONLY reason I did not go to trial was to spare the children from having to relive blah blah blah, she says. Does that mean she thinks she is innocent? She's a liar.
That’s exactly what I heard. Witch!
She didn't want every detail coming out ..that's why she pled guilty.
She didn't want to admit in front of the Mormon church and the world that her and Franke were lesbian lovers
@@georgemonde8237You got that right!
Right! Didn’t she deny what happened to them? So what is it she’s trying to have them be spared from reliving?
When not even your own lawyer wants to defend you.
Did anyone hear ‘I’m sorry?’ Nope!
they both need to be locked up for LIFE
I can't even begin to imagine what those poor kids went through. She is SICK!!!
Poor Jody - she can’t even make herself sound sorry. She’s the one that orchestrated this mess. Get er Judge!!
Ruby blamed others in her statement this am, too. They're both incorrigible.
-the perpetrators always feel-
-they are the victims !-
@@mortalclown3812 But without her Ruby would’ve never done this
@@khaIid624 That’s not true. There were concerns raised WELL BEFORE Jodi got involved.
@@sunnystormy4973
What's wrong with your keyboard???😅