5:14 - Okay, for some reason a lot of people seem to mishear or misunderstand this line. I'm saying "INSERT Dr. Who reference" as in "Add your own reference here". I am NOT saying that Red Dwarf itself is referencing Dr. Who.
"Afraid I'm going to have to do something a bit sissy now: black out." *blacks out for three seconds* "Sorry about that! Let's get cracking!" ----- Ace Rimmer. (What a guy!)
Fun fact, Rob Grant and Doug Naylor were said to have received a letter from a student who hadn't done too well on his SATs, but after watching this episode, the student was inspired to do better and he did. Rob and Doug then had the letter framed and displayed in their office.
I have my own theory about how they got different outcomes. The show opens with a reminder that Rimmer was bullied throughout his school days. Speaking as someone who suffered a milder version of same, it's not helpful to your learning or your social development. (And, neither is it "constructive criticism", Mrs. Harmon.) Research shows that it causes children setbacks as they have to divide their attention between learning and surviving/enduring. Being held back a grade might be considered an embarrassment. But, it would also have resulted in Rimmer having a year's worth of physical development on everybody around him. It would also have meant some advantage in social and learning development (even if it had been a year hampered by nigh-constant bullying). Ace Rimmer got something that Arnold Rimmer never got, respite from the forces that constantly pressed in on him. Sure, his parents and his brothers would still be the problems they are, but at school, at least, he'd have a moment where he could relax and just learn/be a kid, find that studying can actually be pretty rewarding when being wrong is an opportunity for improvement rather than a weakness to be assaulted from all directions. And, yeah, I may have given this a bit too much thought when I first saw the episode, but I was a bit annoyed with Ace, too.
The books expand on things a little about what hologram Rimmer can and can't do. Ace in the books brings up that Rimmer has a light bee inside him, and he could've used that in order to manipulate the controls of a machine in order to help. Well, actually I think it's a realisation that Rimmer comes to himself internally. Ace thinks outside the box and always tries to do his best in service of doing the right thing, and he expects that of Rimmer as well, even in his physically limiting condition. Perhaps a little unfair, but Rimmer's obvious cluelessness probably annoyed Ace a little. Like you said too, that element of hating himself no doubt crept in.
It looks to me as if Ace had never met a hologram before (Lister had to point it out to him) so maybe he's not aware of their limitations, but Ace was just trying to encourage Rimmer anyway.
Love this episode! As far as I remember hearing once during an interview, Spanners is literally the alternate Lister, who had a good bunkmate named Lewis Pemberton on Red Dwarf, who encouraged him to apply himself and he became Spanners that way, getting Kochanski and everything he wanted into the bargain. Obviously Red Dwarf didn't have the accident in this reality. But he met and began working with Ace soon after. As you postulated, the other cast members are just playing roles, and aren't alternate versions of their main universe selves.
Ace Rimmer's story in the novel "Backwards" is much darker, but very gripping. Rob Grant really knows how to write suspense. It's my favourite of the Red Dwarf novels.
Not gonna lie, The "two pound, black ribbed knobler" line from Lister always made me laugh, heck even the audience laughed so much that you can hear a woman squealed in laughter
Fun fact; Ace Rimmer exists because Chris Barrie was also playing a dork in another sitcom and was burned out playing dorks, so he went to the writers and asked if he could just once play _not_ a dork. They came up with the idea of an Anti/Bizarro Rimmer from there.
recently found a clip of a panel interview from a convention from several years ago where the Red Dwarf cast was asked about this original Ace Rimmer theme and Chris Barrie recalled they wanted something that felt a bit like a James Bond theme. Wanting that James Bond vibe would explain why they'd choose a Take My Breath Away knockoff over a Danger Zone one.
The characters played by the actors of Cat, Holly and Kryten aren't meant to be the alternate universe counterparts of those 3 they're just representing other personnel aboard the ship Ace and Spanners are part of.
This is probably my favorite episode. The truth is that in real life there’s someone out there exactly like you just better and you never want to meet them
Spanners is an alternate version of Lister, but I don't think the others are meant to literally be alternate versions of Cat, Kryten and Holly. I think it was just a bit of fun for the actors to play different characters.
I just noticed a [non] continuity error lol Ace says he'll meet Melly? Nelly? at 13:00. He says he'll be free at 15:00 meaning he only spends two hours with her. But in a later episode, when asked how long he's got left to live, he says "about the time I usually like to spend making love to a woman. 12 hours, maybe less." I guess the Ace that Rimmer replaced was a bit more virile than the original!
I know a couple of drag queens who use the insult "I bet you wear mens underwear" when they're being sassy at each other, which they picked up from this. Makes me giggle.
Rimmer speculating about Ace and women's underwear... Interesting that late on, the evil distillated Rmmer ends up looking like a member of the cast of The Rocky horror picture show...
The novel which has the equivilant to this episode does actually note that the dimension jump moved him through time as well as about 3 millions years worth of travel into deep space, and Ace worked out that it meant that with a bit of work, they could come up with a version that could get them back home, to earth 3 million years prior. But then most of them got killed by Agonoids, so instead Cat and Lister (the survivors), used it to jump to a reality where they had died playing better than life, and taking their place.
Actually, NO. In the books I read, Lister died while MAROONED on a planet where giant cockroaches helped him to survive. He grew old. Then, Kryten, Cat, and Rimmer found him. When Lister suddenly died, his corpse was taken to a backwards universe where he lived his life in reverse. He was then picked up at the age of 25 by Rimmer, Kryten, and Cat whereby he lived a "regular" life with them (and Kochanski who sadly was also brought back too). NO ONE died playing Better Than Life. Perhaps you and I read different books?
@@mplum4796 actually, YES. There are different books, because the two creators both made separate book serieses. The one I was referring to, infinity welcomes careful drivers, ends as I said and entirely contains the version I detailed. I'm glad you enjoyed that other book, I've read it too. It contains the equivalent source for the backwards episode, but not for this episode, dimension jump. So not really as relevant. Though if you would like to read a much more detailed and nuanced version of ace, I recommend the book. He acts a dick in a bar, gets beaten up and loses his St Christopher model, all to try and boost the self confidence of the guy that beat him up, and get him to ask out the bar maid. They have a whole subtle lead in about the test ship, where it's thought to be a faster than light ship, and they get the ship back before they sent it. Figuring they've made a time travel engine accidentally. With an incinerated ace and grisly black box footage. So ace is aiming to go anyway, figuring it's destiny. But then notes the black box Ace still had his St Christopher and no black eye and helps work out that it is dimension jumping instead and they just need to jump harder, get to a more different universe, and the "dimensional friction" will be reduced and not incinerate him. Then does the one way jump, as per this episode. What a guy.
To be fair, we know Rimmer's parents were hyper religious, old fashioned, puritanical (albeit hypocritically) and at least his father had twisted, backwards ideas about masculinity and there's the vague implication that most Io's colony held similar mindsets. It's quite possible even likely that homophobia isn't a result of Rimmer's immaturity, but something that both versions would have had ingrained into them from a very young age. Also, Ace does come off like he's overcompensating.
Only problem I have with this episode is that Ace seems rather unbothered about the fact that he'll never be able to come home again. I know that's nitpicking though.
In fairness, he had pretty much achieved everything he wanted in his own universe. Venturing off into uncharted territory was probably an exciting prospect for him.
Cat doesn’t exist in ace’s dimension. Nelly is not holly and kryten is not human there either. They’re just the same actors in different roles. Lister being there doesn’t confuse things, since their universe is pretty much identical aside from the one decision made.
To be honest, I think Ace would have gotten on my nerves too. He may be a genuinely nice guy, but he's still every bit as cheesy and overblown as Rimmer - and him being so damn helpful and supportive all the time means that I would have had to feel guilty for getting annoyed with him. You can say that for Rimmer, you always feel *completely* justified in hating him. ;)
I had to do some searching to figure out what you're talking about since I'm not that familiar with Doctor Who =P Now that I get it, that is pretty cool.
5:15 When the characters mention a "wibbly-wobbly swirly thing" she says that "it's a predictable Doctor Who reference", how does she not realize that this was made a whole decade before the Doctor Who episode "Blink"? It's even possible that's where the inspiration for "wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey" came from.
@@Cyborcat I'd seen that episode earlier and coincidentally watched another episode where they said that only hours before I saw this and also thought of the same thing, so I really appreciate you pointing that out for a wider audience, great job on the Vlogs!
Kryten couldn't have been human in Ace's dimension because he wouldn't have been build for another century. New headcanon: the guy that tries to seduce Ace is actually the ancestor of the guy that Kryten was based on/made mockery of.
It's the writers fault. In the books when Ace meet Rimmer and he told Rimmer to do something. Rimmer told him how he's just a hologram and can't touch just go through things, Ace tole him he had his little projector that could press the buttons. Thought I share
The similarity with Mellie and Bongo can just about be retconned. Versions of Bongo and Mellie exist in this universe and are in fact the physical models for the Kryten mechanoid series and the Holly A.I respectively. Kryten mentions part of his brain is organic in 'DNA,' and when he's 'humanized,' he becomes the spitting image of Jim Reaper from 'Last Day,' so perhaps he's this universe's 'Bongo' and donated some tissue to the production line. As for Holly, let's imagine he's a bit like Data in TNG and is modelled by default after his creator, who in this universe looks like Norman Lovett. Let's also imagine that he had a development team working for him that included 'Queeg' and Mellie. We saw in 'Queeg' that Holly can select different faces and voices, one of the more recent episodes had Rimmer and Kryten selecting the appearance settings of an A.I they were going to replace Holly with (until it turned out to be a lunatic) and in 'Parallel Universe,' we know 'Hilly' looks like a chick by default, so maybe Queeg and Mellie/Hattie-Holly are just two of many profile settings this universe's Holly is able to use. There might even be one that looks like Daphne from 'Frasier.' 😁 Padre Cat is quite a bit more difficult to explain. 🤔
In one of the earlier episodes, Male Holly said that his face had belonged to one of history's greatest lovers (to which Rimmer replied, "Really? Well he must have operated in the dark a lot").
My guess is, that the alternate Kryten was the doctor s ex whom she based Kryten on and that Holly was digitalized from her alt as for the cat well... Might be the dna that cats were from in some weird space bonding event that happened in those million years
Ace became a fan favourite pretty much instantly after this episode aired that's why in series 6 in Emohawk:Polymorph 2 he gets a big applause when Rimmer is transformed into him or a version of him. To be fair despite how much I love series 6 that episode was total fan service, it was still pretty good though.
I always theorised that after failing his dad basically never talked to him and that's what really helped him, he no longer had his psycho dad pushing him and this allowed him to do what he wanted to do. Also i assumed that ace his older and mature considering that the craft time travels.
Tony Marshall if I recall correctly, in the book, it time travels, but only to an equivalent point in that persons timeline. So basically, ace is rimmers age at time of death, plus the time passed since activated 3 million years into the future.
No worries Dena, I hope you enjoy Season XI when you watch them. (Still find it amazing the show still going... especially when for a while it looked like Season 6 would be the last)
I'm trying to remember to watch them as they come out. So far, I've seen the first two. The first was okay--the second was a lot funnier. I think I have the third downloaded, but haven't had a chance to watch it yet.
I met Hattie Hayridge at a convention once. Really nice lady, I have to say, but my point is that she says Dimension Jump is her favourite episode because she got to do something that wasn't just sitting against a black backdrop.
Some fanfictions use an excuse that the jumpdrive is calculated to detect other RImmers, and since our Rimmer was the closest one to Ace's dimension that's how he jumped through time. Another theory I like is that the timelines just run on different times. Same events, but one taking place 3mil years in the past. (Sorta like if you put a DVD on and later the same show on your phone. Exact same thing, different times.)
Who else thinks that lister and rimmer still roomed together on the red dwarf but only for there first tour of duty before becoming friends and then rimmer didn't keep putting him down but instead tried to push him to his full potential (I.e. Head engineer). Probably forced him to take the exams we see rimmer taking in the first episode and lister took in the third, told him to clean up and force him to learn to treat kachanski better
Im guessing in Aces reality, the drive plate never failed on Red Dwarf so the Cat never existed because the cat race never exsisted. They never got to met girl type Holly and Kryten is probaly still stuck on the Nova five. So I think your right, that they were put in as different characters for fun
I'd always assumed that anything of Rimmer physically interacting with ship controls and the like, pre-season 6, was his program communicating with the device. Doesn't account for if he ever does that with something nor electronic, though.
First, can I say I think this your best episode yet, and think all that you said was really on the ball! Particularly the part about why Ace is a bit of a dick to Rimmer. I think it was his own subconscious blind spot that he does demand perfection from himself and could not accept he really could have become 'Rimmer'. (I think many British guys suffer from this problem - though to a less extreme extent.) I think he was trying to prove to himself that Rimmer was not a complete failure and force him to show some 'hidden' depth and ability. The more he failed to find anything redeeming about Rimmer, the more he looked! Just as it is hard for Rimmer to accept how easily he could have become his embodiment of perfection, it must also be hard for Ace to accept how easily he could have become his own embodiment of total failure! I also liked that this episode tackled head-on - without completely disregarding either side - the issue of how much one is defined by their situation and how much it comes down to how the individual defines the situation!
I know it's a bit unlikely but say a new series comes out at around the same time as Top Gun 2. Imagine that. In that series they should have another Ace episode, and since his theme changes everytime he appears (It started off as a parody of 'Take My Breath Away' and then a cheesy WWII theme) it could be a parody of Danger Zone. We haven't seen him since 'Stoke me a klipper' anyway, so it'd make for one helluva comeback! *Edit:* What a guy!!
It's open for interpretation, but I just took it as the humans still ended up together on the alternate Earth, and we're just seeing people who look similar but aren't the same as Holy, Kryton, and Cat. Kind of a Wizard of Oz thing. But, I do a lot of "alternate reality" stuff in my role play games, so maybe that's just me. I would have wanted to toss in some guy who sounded a lot like Talkie Toaster, too.
I think I always took it that Ace's Lister was the only real parallel and the rest were all just excuses to see the other actors in different roles (we see the same with Danny in Only The Good when he plays the scientist). Mostly because Lister is the only one who Ace seems to recognise.
Actually, the scientist WAS the Cat--the whole joke is that everyone is opposite of how they are in the main universe, so Cat, who is usually stupid, was a scientist. But other than the example, I know what you mean.
Great episode! (Both Dimension Jump and this vlog.) There are a few inconsistencies in this one - like the "Ace must have time traveled" thing - but I think the alternate Lister's name being different has an explanation: "Spanners" is probably just a nickname (like Arnold "Ace" Rimmer), because he's an engineer, and his actual name is still Dave Lister. The RD wikia seems to think so! But the episode throws you off with the Mellie and Bongo. Just don't try and reconcile the existence of alternate Listers who never joined Red Dwarf with Ouroboros. There frustration lies.
@@callinater6133 Maybe, but the circumstances of the Ouroboros loop were so specific, it's hard to believe it would still happen without Lister being frozen for 3 million years. Although, since I originally posted this comment, I have seen it suggested that all alternate Red Dwarf universes branch out from the prime timeline (so e.g. in Ace's universe, Lister father is himself from a parallel dimension - our Lister - as well as from the future). As good an explanation as any, I guess! The exception of course has to be the gender swap universe. There presumably was a similar Ouroboros loop for that one.
I've been binge watching these Red Dwarf reviews and they are very hard to stop watching. I love them. I am glad I'm not the only one that thinks Kryton and Cat being human in the other time line (and millions of years ago) is a bit wierd. I'm also pretty sure that this wibbly wobbly reference pre-dates the Doctor Who one.
@@Cyborcat sorry, I wasn't all of the way through it yet. Perhaps for two of the three they were the originals that the Series 4000 and female Holly were based on. We don't know that Cat wasn't still a cat. They may have their canines altered to fit in with humans better.
This episode shows that contrary to Rimmer's excuses in other episodes as to why he never succeeded in life. He still could have made something of himself, but in order to do so he had to have hit rock bottom. Which we see he never did due to his parents meddling.
The novel ‘Backwards’ explains the drive was created my accident as it was supposed to be a FTL drive. But I know this doesn’t fit with the TV canon, but I thought I’d share this with you.
I kind of think little boy Rimmer having a cockney accent doesn't quite make sense but he could have picked it up at school and lost it as he grew up I suppose.
The only thing I strongly disliked about this episode is that Ace couldn’t ever get back home. I get that they wanted to show how dedicated he was to the space corps, but they could have achieved the same by just saying that there was no guarantee of what would happen wit( the reality drive. Making Ace permanently leave his friends seemed very wrong to me, and it also made no sense: surely the whole point of the reality drive was to test the dimension theory. How is it supposed to do that if Ace can’t return to report his findings?
Nice way to end it, Dena. I liked Dimension Jump, too, but I also had a few things to say that I wasn't sure of. If Ace Rimmer was able to visit other realities and dimensions with the use of that device, why couldn't he go back to his own? Also, if he was so much in love with Mellie, who resigned her commission after wanting to go out with him, why didn't he take her with him? At least they know they could be together. One of the things I liked was when the Cat was injured and he was more worried about the colours not matching then the actual hurting of his leg. The beginning part of it, where Rimmer is being neglected because the others don't want him to go fishing with them, reminds me of my youth and how I had to deal with my friends, too, so that is another reason why I liked this episode. Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for the next one.
Maybe the device takes you to a random alternate universe, so whilst you might theoretically end up back in your original reality, in practice the chances of this happening are so minute that it might as well not be an option.
Surprised you didn't bring up the fact that Ace has to be from an alternate reality that's literally millions of miles, light years as well as regular years apart from where the dwarf is.
I think you could argue that since holly and krypton are machines there ulternate universe look alikes are (or related to) the visual models for them, like how We someone who worked for the robot company that looked just like krypton but human
I loves red dwarf but this episode always confused me. Our Lister got Frozen for 3million yrs. So unless Ace did aswell they shudnt have Eva met. Parallel universe is same time difference reality. Maybe Ace travelled in time bt they dint say he did.....so I'm confused......:$
In the books it's made a bit clear, and it's specifically brought up that it traveled in time as well as vastly in space, and they even talk about being able to rig up a version to get them all home. The ship jumps to equivalent points on his alternative selfs personal timeline. Like, Ace has been alive before making the jump for about as long as Rimmer has been alive, and then a hologram for?
@@FFKonoko There's a huge amount of inconsistencies in the whole series because they didn't let logic get in the way of a fun story; the MST3K mantra "repeat to yourself it's just a show, I should really just relax" very much applies to Red Dwarf :)
well maybe the later eps will show shin more light on this somewhat dark...well not dark more like an unclear answer then it is yeah that is the word for it.
I don't think Ace is homophobic. He agrees to have lunch with Spanners, Mellie and Bongo, so i'm guessing he's Bisexual. Making him homophobic would be a step too low for him.
i still hate the use of the term mary sue since it all but meanless at this point since it used for every chat people dont like superman , Rey from star wars , starlight from mlp
Cyborcat yes i know you used right i am just saying to me it one of them Words that long since i hated thanks to abuse it given also like the words overrated or opinion
I don't see Ace as being homophobic. He got angry at Rimmer's insult because it was an obvious insult directed at Lister, and he literally just told Rimmer to say what he likes about him but to not insult Lister. And while the implication of the insult is about them being gay, I imagine Ace would've reacted the same way had Lister been a woman and she had displayed no sexual interest in him, because the remark was clearly disrespectful.
LOL. I guess my timing with them is just right. Generally I use them, along with the MLP Vlogs, as filler between Film Dens and such and I alternate two episodes of each show.
I love your vlogs on Red Dwarf and other shows, but I must point out the wibbly wobbly was not truly a Dr. Who reference. The first doctor who actually SAID it was David Tennant's version of the doctor in 2017, long after this episode aired. It's more apt to say that wibbly wobbly in Dr. Who was a Red Dwarf easter egg/reference.
You misunderstood what I said in the video. It was "INSERT Dr. Who reference" meaning "add your own because I'm too lazy" or whatever. I was not saying that Red Dwarf was referencing Dr. Who.
I'm not sure women's underwear really qualifies as a gay joke but there's also intent. I don't think the writers had malicious intent towards a certain culture.
I don't think I ever implied that the writers had malicious intent. Rimmer is written to be an asshole who is a laughing stock, and making homophobic cracks is one of the ways he shows that. I can't imagine anyone thinking that Rimmer's opinions reflect that of the creators.
I doubt Ace is homophobic. Bongo made a suggestion of gay intimacy earlier in the episode, and although Ace turned down the offer because he’s straight, he didn’t seem horrified or
Homophobia isn't a black-and-white thing. You can think it's okay for other people to be gay, and still think it's a horrible thing for someone to accuse you of, because you still have an issue with it, deep down.
And yet, he still got mad at Rimmer for calling him gay. Why would he be mad about that if he had literally no issues with gayness? It's only insulting if you take it that way, and he did.
5:10 Insert predictable Dr Who reference? Shouldn't it be instead, Doctor Who writers must have been Red Dwarf fans. I know both have to do with time travel but RD did it first. Not to say that it wasn't fun as usual watching all your Vlogs.
Wait, Ace is married to Kochanski and he flirts with Nellie (Alternate Holly), and it's implied that he was going to... umm... let her smoke his kipper. (Sorry for the mental image. ) So, was Ace going to cheat on Kochanski? What a git.
Oh, sorry. It's just that they were talking about Ace, and how it's good to have an alternative reality version of yourself and I jumped to conclusions. *Engage Embarrassed mode*
5:14 - Okay, for some reason a lot of people seem to mishear or misunderstand this line. I'm saying "INSERT Dr. Who reference" as in "Add your own reference here". I am NOT saying that Red Dwarf itself is referencing Dr. Who.
"Afraid I'm going to have to do something a bit sissy now: black out."
*blacks out for three seconds*
"Sorry about that! Let's get cracking!"
----- Ace Rimmer. (What a guy!)
Brilliant
I need to find that video lol
Fun fact, Rob Grant and Doug Naylor were said to have received a letter from a student who hadn't done too well on his SATs, but after watching this episode, the student was inspired to do better and he did. Rob and Doug then had the letter framed and displayed in their office.
That's awesome ^.^
“What a guy...”
I have my own theory about how they got different outcomes.
The show opens with a reminder that Rimmer was bullied throughout his school days. Speaking as someone who suffered a milder version of same, it's not helpful to your learning or your social development. (And, neither is it "constructive criticism", Mrs. Harmon.) Research shows that it causes children setbacks as they have to divide their attention between learning and surviving/enduring.
Being held back a grade might be considered an embarrassment. But, it would also have resulted in Rimmer having a year's worth of physical development on everybody around him. It would also have meant some advantage in social and learning development (even if it had been a year hampered by nigh-constant bullying).
Ace Rimmer got something that Arnold Rimmer never got, respite from the forces that constantly pressed in on him. Sure, his parents and his brothers would still be the problems they are, but at school, at least, he'd have a moment where he could relax and just learn/be a kid, find that studying can actually be pretty rewarding when being wrong is an opportunity for improvement rather than a weakness to be assaulted from all directions.
And, yeah, I may have given this a bit too much thought when I first saw the episode, but I was a bit annoyed with Ace, too.
1:17 - "Take my smeg awaaaaaaay..."
The books expand on things a little about what hologram Rimmer can and can't do. Ace in the books brings up that Rimmer has a light bee inside him, and he could've used that in order to manipulate the controls of a machine in order to help. Well, actually I think it's a realisation that Rimmer comes to himself internally. Ace thinks outside the box and always tries to do his best in service of doing the right thing, and he expects that of Rimmer as well, even in his physically limiting condition. Perhaps a little unfair, but Rimmer's obvious cluelessness probably annoyed Ace a little. Like you said too, that element of hating himself no doubt crept in.
It looks to me as if Ace had never met a hologram before (Lister had to point it out to him) so maybe he's not aware of their limitations, but Ace was just trying to encourage Rimmer anyway.
That's possible.
Love this episode!
As far as I remember hearing once during an interview, Spanners is literally the alternate Lister, who had a good bunkmate named Lewis Pemberton on Red Dwarf, who encouraged him to apply himself and he became Spanners that way, getting Kochanski and everything he wanted into the bargain. Obviously Red Dwarf didn't have the accident in this reality. But he met and began working with Ace soon after.
As you postulated, the other cast members are just playing roles, and aren't alternate versions of their main universe selves.
Ace Rimmer's story in the novel "Backwards" is much darker, but very gripping. Rob Grant really knows how to write suspense. It's my favourite of the Red Dwarf novels.
With Ace you can really see how handsome Chris Barrie actually is.
Actually, I agree with Ace's first instinct. To me the brown curls are more flattering, while the long fringe makes his jawline kinda doughy.
I know! I have always thought Chris to be quite handsome, but with that hairstyle he becomes a work of fine art.
I think Chris is more handsome as Rimmer.
Not gonna lie, The "two pound, black ribbed knobler" line from Lister always made me laugh, heck even the audience laughed so much that you can hear a woman squealed in laughter
Fun fact; Ace Rimmer exists because Chris Barrie was also playing a dork in another sitcom and was burned out playing dorks, so he went to the writers and asked if he could just once play _not_ a dork. They came up with the idea of an Anti/Bizarro Rimmer from there.
recently found a clip of a panel interview from a convention from several years ago where the Red Dwarf cast was asked about this original Ace Rimmer theme and Chris Barrie recalled they wanted something that felt a bit like a James Bond theme.
Wanting that James Bond vibe would explain why they'd choose a Take My Breath Away knockoff over a Danger Zone one.
This season was so good, every episode was on point, Ace, what a guy 😊
The characters played by the actors of Cat, Holly and Kryten aren't meant to be the alternate universe counterparts of those 3 they're just representing other personnel aboard the ship Ace and Spanners are part of.
This is probably my favorite episode. The truth is that in real life there’s someone out there exactly like you just better and you never want to meet them
Spanners is an alternate version of Lister, but I don't think the others are meant to literally be alternate versions of Cat, Kryten and Holly. I think it was just a bit of fun for the actors to play different characters.
Yeah, I thought of that at some point. I think I added annotations about it before UA-cam removed that feature.
I like how 1950s/1960s fashions has made yet another comeback...
I just noticed a [non] continuity error lol Ace says he'll meet Melly? Nelly? at 13:00. He says he'll be free at 15:00 meaning he only spends two hours with her. But in a later episode, when asked how long he's got left to live, he says "about the time I usually like to spend making love to a woman. 12 hours, maybe less."
I guess the Ace that Rimmer replaced was a bit more virile than the original!
Well, the season 7 version of Ace was a hologram, so energy wouldn’t be an issue for him.
I know a couple of drag queens who use the insult "I bet you wear mens underwear" when they're being sassy at each other, which they picked up from this. Makes me giggle.
cute
Rimmer speculating about Ace and women's underwear... Interesting that late on, the evil distillated Rmmer ends up looking like a member of the cast of The Rocky horror picture show...
The novel which has the equivilant to this episode does actually note that the dimension jump moved him through time as well as about 3 millions years worth of travel into deep space, and Ace worked out that it meant that with a bit of work, they could come up with a version that could get them back home, to earth 3 million years prior. But then most of them got killed by Agonoids, so instead Cat and Lister (the survivors), used it to jump to a reality where they had died playing better than life, and taking their place.
Actually, NO. In the books I read, Lister died while MAROONED on a planet where giant cockroaches helped him to survive. He grew old. Then, Kryten, Cat, and Rimmer found him. When Lister suddenly died, his corpse was taken to a backwards universe where he lived his life in reverse. He was then picked up at the age of 25 by Rimmer, Kryten, and Cat whereby he lived a "regular" life with them (and Kochanski who sadly was also brought back too). NO ONE died playing Better Than Life.
Perhaps you and I read different books?
@@mplum4796 actually, YES.
There are different books, because the two creators both made separate book serieses. The one I was referring to, infinity welcomes careful drivers, ends as I said and entirely contains the version I detailed. I'm glad you enjoyed that other book, I've read it too. It contains the equivalent source for the backwards episode, but not for this episode, dimension jump. So not really as relevant. Though if you would like to read a much more detailed and nuanced version of ace, I recommend the book.
He acts a dick in a bar, gets beaten up and loses his St Christopher model, all to try and boost the self confidence of the guy that beat him up, and get him to ask out the bar maid. They have a whole subtle lead in about the test ship, where it's thought to be a faster than light ship, and they get the ship back before they sent it. Figuring they've made a time travel engine accidentally. With an incinerated ace and grisly black box footage. So ace is aiming to go anyway, figuring it's destiny. But then notes the black box Ace still had his St Christopher and no black eye and helps work out that it is dimension jumping instead and they just need to jump harder, get to a more different universe, and the "dimensional friction" will be reduced and not incinerate him. Then does the one way jump, as per this episode. What a guy.
Would it make any difference if it was...hummus? **scribble scribble scribble**
Iv seen this episode so many times but never worked out what was in the net, this episode just got so much better :'D
To be fair, we know Rimmer's parents were hyper religious, old fashioned, puritanical (albeit hypocritically) and at least his father had twisted, backwards ideas about masculinity and there's the vague implication that most Io's colony held similar mindsets. It's quite possible even likely that homophobia isn't a result of Rimmer's immaturity, but something that both versions would have had ingrained into them from a very young age. Also, Ace does come off like he's overcompensating.
Only problem I have with this episode is that Ace seems rather unbothered about the fact that he'll never be able to come home again.
I know that's nitpicking though.
I think it was supposed to be part of his "cool factor".
In fairness, he had pretty much achieved everything he wanted in his own universe. Venturing off into uncharted territory was probably an exciting prospect for him.
Rimmer has a hard light drive making him solid doesn't he?
He does as of Season 6. In Season 4, he was still soft light.
Cat doesn’t exist in ace’s dimension. Nelly is not holly and kryten is not human there either. They’re just the same actors in different roles. Lister being there doesn’t confuse things, since their universe is pretty much identical aside from the one decision made.
I pretty much said that at the end.
"... Ace... What a guy..."
To be honest, I think Ace would have gotten on my nerves too. He may be a genuinely nice guy, but he's still every bit as cheesy and overblown as Rimmer - and him being so damn helpful and supportive all the time means that I would have had to feel guilty for getting annoyed with him. You can say that for Rimmer, you always feel *completely* justified in hating him. ;)
LOL, good point XD
I like the commentary of the Red Dwarf episode from this channel
this was one of my favorite episodes, I love seeing what Rimmer could/should have been
And that being held back in school, might be the best thing to happen to a person that is behind his class in maturity.
@@Carewolf i know it's genuienly a good morale lesson
oh, here's a fun tidbit: Kryten in the parallel universe had a jacket with the Varos logo on it. :D
I had to do some searching to figure out what you're talking about since I'm not that familiar with Doctor Who =P Now that I get it, that is pretty cool.
5:15 When the characters mention a "wibbly-wobbly swirly thing" she says that "it's a predictable Doctor Who reference", how does she not realize that this was made a whole decade before the Doctor Who episode "Blink"? It's even possible that's where the inspiration for "wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey" came from.
You're misquoting me. The actual quote was "INSERT predictable Dr. Who reference" meaning "add your own". I didn't say the show was doing it.
@@Cyborcat Thanks for the clarification, the "insert" sounded like "it's a" to me, sorry to misquote you.
Fair enough. I probably could have worded it better, like "Add your own reference here" or something.
@@Cyborcat I'd seen that episode earlier and coincidentally watched another episode where they said that only hours before I saw this and also thought of the same thing, so I really appreciate you pointing that out for a wider audience, great job on the Vlogs!
@@MadScientist512 Interesting timing XD
And thanks, glad you like the videos ^.^
Kryten couldn't have been human in Ace's dimension because he wouldn't have been build for another century.
New headcanon: the guy that tries to seduce Ace is actually the ancestor of the guy that Kryten was based on/made mockery of.
I approve of that headcannon =P
It's the writers fault. In the books when Ace meet Rimmer and he told Rimmer to do something. Rimmer told him how he's just a hologram and can't touch just go through things, Ace tole him he had his little projector that could press the buttons.
Thought I share
Also In the books it said that the Dimension Jumper will only jump him to an other Rimmer no matter if it's time or space.
The similarity with Mellie and Bongo can just about be retconned. Versions of Bongo and Mellie exist in this universe and are in fact the physical models for the Kryten mechanoid series and the Holly A.I respectively. Kryten mentions part of his brain is organic in 'DNA,' and when he's 'humanized,' he becomes the spitting image of Jim Reaper from 'Last Day,' so perhaps he's this universe's 'Bongo' and donated some tissue to the production line.
As for Holly, let's imagine he's a bit like Data in TNG and is modelled by default after his creator, who in this universe looks like Norman Lovett. Let's also imagine that he had a development team working for him that included 'Queeg' and Mellie. We saw in 'Queeg' that Holly can select different faces and voices, one of the more recent episodes had Rimmer and Kryten selecting the appearance settings of an A.I they were going to replace Holly with (until it turned out to be a lunatic) and in 'Parallel Universe,' we know 'Hilly' looks like a chick by default, so maybe Queeg and Mellie/Hattie-Holly are just two of many profile settings this universe's Holly is able to use. There might even be one that looks like Daphne from 'Frasier.' 😁
Padre Cat is quite a bit more difficult to explain. 🤔
In one of the earlier episodes, Male Holly said that his face had belonged to one of history's greatest lovers (to which Rimmer replied, "Really? Well he must have operated in the dark a lot").
My guess is, that the alternate Kryten was the doctor s ex whom she based Kryten on and that Holly was digitalized from her alt as for the cat well... Might be the dna that cats were from in some weird space bonding event that happened in those million years
Ace became a fan favourite pretty much instantly after this episode aired that's why in series 6 in Emohawk:Polymorph 2 he gets a big applause when Rimmer is transformed into him or a version of him. To be fair despite how much I love series 6 that episode was total fan service, it was still pretty good though.
Why is fan service a bad thing? Since it’s the fans that make the show a success I don’t think it’s too shameful to respect their requests and wishes.
@@mopanov how gay was that guy btw
I always theorised that after failing his dad basically never talked to him and that's what really helped him, he no longer had his psycho dad pushing him and this allowed him to do what he wanted to do. Also i assumed that ace his older and mature considering that the craft time travels.
Tony Marshall if I recall correctly, in the book, it time travels, but only to an equivalent point in that persons timeline. So basically, ace is rimmers age at time of death, plus the time passed since activated 3 million years into the future.
No worries Dena, I hope you enjoy Season XI when you watch them. (Still find it amazing the show still going... especially when for a while it looked like Season 6 would be the last)
I'm trying to remember to watch them as they come out. So far, I've seen the first two. The first was okay--the second was a lot funnier. I think I have the third downloaded, but haven't had a chance to watch it yet.
I met Hattie Hayridge at a convention once. Really nice lady, I have to say, but my point is that she says Dimension Jump is her favourite episode because she got to do something that wasn't just sitting against a black backdrop.
LOL, can't blame her.
Some fanfictions use an excuse that the jumpdrive is calculated to detect other RImmers, and since our Rimmer was the closest one to Ace's dimension that's how he jumped through time. Another theory I like is that the timelines just run on different times. Same events, but one taking place 3mil years in the past. (Sorta like if you put a DVD on and later the same show on your phone. Exact same thing, different times.)
My thought was the only lister and rimmer have counterparts, Danny, Hattie and Robert are playing different characters.
Who else thinks that lister and rimmer still roomed together on the red dwarf but only for there first tour of duty before becoming friends and then rimmer didn't keep putting him down but instead tried to push him to his full potential (I.e. Head engineer). Probably forced him to take the exams we see rimmer taking in the first episode and lister took in the third, told him to clean up and force him to learn to treat kachanski better
Im guessing in Aces reality, the drive plate never failed on Red Dwarf so the Cat never existed because the cat race never exsisted. They never got to met girl type Holly and Kryten is probaly still stuck on the Nova five. So I think your right, that they were put in as different characters for fun
I'd always assumed that anything of Rimmer physically interacting with ship controls and the like, pre-season 6, was his program communicating with the device. Doesn't account for if he ever does that with something nor electronic, though.
First, can I say I think this your best episode yet, and think all that you said was really on the ball! Particularly the part about why Ace is a bit of a dick to Rimmer.
I think it was his own subconscious blind spot that he does demand perfection from himself and could not accept he really could have become 'Rimmer'. (I think many British guys suffer from this problem - though to a less extreme extent.) I think he was trying to prove to himself that Rimmer was not a complete failure and force him to show some 'hidden' depth and ability. The more he failed to find anything redeeming about Rimmer, the more he looked!
Just as it is hard for Rimmer to accept how easily he could have become his embodiment of perfection, it must also be hard for Ace to accept how easily he could have become his own embodiment of total failure!
I also liked that this episode tackled head-on - without completely disregarding either side - the issue of how much one is defined by their situation and how much it comes down to how the individual defines the situation!
I know it's a bit unlikely but say a new series comes out at around the same time as Top Gun 2. Imagine that. In that series they should have another Ace episode, and since his theme changes everytime he appears (It started off as a parody of 'Take My Breath Away' and then a cheesy WWII theme) it could be a parody of Danger Zone. We haven't seen him since 'Stoke me a klipper' anyway, so it'd make for one helluva comeback! *Edit:* What a guy!!
It's open for interpretation, but I just took it as the humans still ended up together on the alternate Earth, and we're just seeing people who look similar but aren't the same as Holy, Kryton, and Cat. Kind of a Wizard of Oz thing. But, I do a lot of "alternate reality" stuff in my role play games, so maybe that's just me. I would have wanted to toss in some guy who sounded a lot like Talkie Toaster, too.
I think I always took it that Ace's Lister was the only real parallel and the rest were all just excuses to see the other actors in different roles (we see the same with Danny in Only The Good when he plays the scientist). Mostly because Lister is the only one who Ace seems to recognise.
Actually, the scientist WAS the Cat--the whole joke is that everyone is opposite of how they are in the main universe, so Cat, who is usually stupid, was a scientist. But other than the example, I know what you mean.
+Cyborcat Ha see I think that would have been more obvious to me if we had got to see Lister and Krytens opposite. seems like a missed oppertunity.
Great episode! (Both Dimension Jump and this vlog.) There are a few inconsistencies in this one - like the "Ace must have time traveled" thing - but I think the alternate Lister's name being different has an explanation: "Spanners" is probably just a nickname (like Arnold "Ace" Rimmer), because he's an engineer, and his actual name is still Dave Lister. The RD wikia seems to think so! But the episode throws you off with the Mellie and Bongo.
Just don't try and reconcile the existence of alternate Listers who never joined Red Dwarf with Ouroboros. There frustration lies.
It’s possible that in ace’s universe the ouroboros loop still exists, but it’s played out differently due to lister having a different life.
@@callinater6133 Maybe, but the circumstances of the Ouroboros loop were so specific, it's hard to believe it would still happen without Lister being frozen for 3 million years.
Although, since I originally posted this comment, I have seen it suggested that all alternate Red Dwarf universes branch out from the prime timeline (so e.g. in Ace's universe, Lister father is himself from a parallel dimension - our Lister - as well as from the future). As good an explanation as any, I guess!
The exception of course has to be the gender swap universe. There presumably was a similar Ouroboros loop for that one.
I've been binge watching these Red Dwarf reviews and they are very hard to stop watching. I love them. I am glad I'm not the only one that thinks Kryton and Cat being human in the other time line (and millions of years ago) is a bit wierd. I'm also pretty sure that this wibbly wobbly reference pre-dates the Doctor Who one.
Thanks so much, glad you like 'em ^.^
“Smoke me a kipper I’ll be back for breakfast.”
You missed that Ace's boss was a human Kryten.
The first thing I said was "Nice to see Robert Lewellen without make-up".
@@Cyborcat sorry, I wasn't all of the way through it yet. Perhaps for two of the three they were the originals that the Series 4000 and female Holly were based on. We don't know that Cat wasn't still a cat. They may have their canines altered to fit in with humans better.
Aces dimension must be 3million years in past too. Unless Rimmer & Lister & Kochanski where also put in stasis in his dimension too!
This episode shows that contrary to Rimmer's excuses in other episodes as to why he never succeeded in life. He still could have made something of himself, but in order to do so he had to have hit rock bottom.
Which we see he never did due to his parents meddling.
Yep in makings stuff, the creators openly admit they asked the music guy to make it sound like Top Gun.
The novel ‘Backwards’ explains the drive was created my accident as it was supposed to be a FTL drive. But I know this doesn’t fit with the TV canon, but I thought I’d share this with you.
oh my god i never realised until now that the girl covered in maple syrup or whatever was Holly *facepalm* anyway I love your vlogs !!
well to be fair Kryten was based on his Creators exboyfriend
I kind of think little boy Rimmer having a cockney accent doesn't quite make sense but he could have picked it up at school and lost it as he grew up I suppose.
The only thing I strongly disliked about this episode is that Ace couldn’t ever get back home. I get that they wanted to show how dedicated he was to the space corps, but they could have achieved the same by just saying that there was no guarantee of what would happen wit( the reality drive. Making Ace permanently leave his friends seemed very wrong to me, and it also made no sense: surely the whole point of the reality drive was to test the dimension theory. How is it supposed to do that if Ace can’t return to report his findings?
Good point XD
Nice way to end it, Dena. I liked Dimension Jump, too, but I also had a few things to say that I wasn't sure of. If Ace Rimmer was able to visit other realities and dimensions with the use of that device, why couldn't he go back to his own? Also, if he was so much in love with Mellie, who resigned her commission after wanting to go out with him, why didn't he take her with him? At least they know they could be together.
One of the things I liked was when the Cat was injured and he was more worried about the colours not matching then the actual hurting of his leg. The beginning part of it, where Rimmer is being neglected because the others don't want him to go fishing with them, reminds me of my youth and how I had to deal with my friends, too, so that is another reason why I liked this episode.
Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for the next one.
Oh, my sweet summer child! He didn't LOVE her. He was a womanizing, sex-obsessed BEAST who had it on with anyone who offered, basically. HAHAHA
Maybe the device takes you to a random alternate universe, so whilst you might theoretically end up back in your original reality, in practice the chances of this happening are so minute that it might as well not be an option.
oh theyre kippers! never knew, I thought it was metal or something
We're gonna see JAWS
on discord i use ace's name as a username, so now everyone calls me ace and i can understand the power of having that as a name
isn't it a Red Dwarf reference that modern Doctor Who appropriated? Which explains a lot more about the modern DW show than it should, LOL...
Surprised you didn't bring up the fact that Ace has to be from an alternate reality that's literally millions of miles, light years as well as regular years apart from where the dwarf is.
Yah, it slipped my mind while recording, so I added an annotation about it at 13:20.
It’s totally obvious that the theme from “Top Gun” was intentional!
5:30 - isn't it also pointless Rimmer worrying considering he's a hologram. XD
Maybe but his light beam can still be damaged. Especially when he's in soft light mode
I kind of think of the alternate Rimmer and Lister's universe as the coin flip.
I think you could argue that since holly and krypton are machines there ulternate universe look alikes are (or related to) the visual models for them, like how We someone who worked for the robot company that looked just like krypton but human
I loves red dwarf but this episode always confused me. Our Lister got Frozen for 3million yrs. So unless Ace did aswell they shudnt have Eva met. Parallel universe is same time difference reality. Maybe Ace travelled in time bt they dint say he did.....so I'm confused......:$
In the books it's made a bit clear, and it's specifically brought up that it traveled in time as well as vastly in space, and they even talk about being able to rig up a version to get them all home. The ship jumps to equivalent points on his alternative selfs personal timeline. Like, Ace has been alive before making the jump for about as long as Rimmer has been alive, and then a hologram for?
@@FFKonoko There's a huge amount of inconsistencies in the whole series because they didn't let logic get in the way of a fun story; the MST3K mantra "repeat to yourself it's just a show, I should really just relax" very much applies to Red Dwarf :)
Its 5yrs later+I was about to ask the the same question.....thanks for the reply!!!😂😂😂😂🏴
I think it was more then just being held back a year. He learned he can't skate by.
Actually, the bigger thing is how does ace jump to another dimension 3 million years in the future
I did pick up on that like right after I finished and uploaded the video--I think I mentioned it in an annotation before UA-cam removed those.
Nice touch with the Hammond Organ theme at the end. Suppose you might use the Elvis ending for the next episode?
I'd like to think George RR Martin watched this show and based Jaime Lannister on Ace Rimmer
well maybe the later eps will show shin more light on this somewhat dark...well not dark more like an unclear answer then it is yeah that is the word for it.
I miss when they used to do alternative ending themes. This one. Elvis. In fact. Are they the only two?
Not an alternative theme, but there's also "Waiting for God" where Rimmer kept interrupting the credits. That's all I can think of.
@@Cyborcat ah yes. It's a smegging garbage pod!
Man. What a guy.
I don't think Ace is homophobic. He agrees to have lunch with Spanners, Mellie and Bongo, so i'm guessing he's Bisexual. Making him homophobic would be a step too low for him.
He didn’t agree to have lunch with bongo, and spanners didn’t even ask him such a thing.
i still hate the use of the term mary sue since it all but meanless at this point since it used for every chat people dont like
superman , Rey from star wars , starlight from mlp
It's still a legitimate term when used correctly and I never said I hated Ace.
Cyborcat yes i know you used right
i am just saying to me it one of them Words that long since i hated thanks to abuse it given
also like the words overrated or opinion
I don't see Ace as being homophobic. He got angry at Rimmer's insult because it was an obvious insult directed at Lister, and he literally just told Rimmer to say what he likes about him but to not insult Lister.
And while the implication of the insult is about them being gay, I imagine Ace would've reacted the same way had Lister been a woman and she had displayed no sexual interest in him, because the remark was clearly disrespectful.
You know, every time I think "Hey, it's been a while since Dena's uploaded an RD Vlog", one suddenly appears. Are you psychic?
LOL. I guess my timing with them is just right. Generally I use them, along with the MLP Vlogs, as filler between Film Dens and such and I alternate two episodes of each show.
If they do a RD / MLP cross-over, it'll throw your scheduling all to hell.
I love your vlogs on Red Dwarf and other shows, but I must point out the wibbly wobbly was not truly a Dr. Who reference. The first doctor who actually SAID it was David Tennant's version of the doctor in 2017, long after this episode aired. It's more apt to say that wibbly wobbly in Dr. Who was a Red Dwarf easter egg/reference.
You misunderstood what I said in the video. It was "INSERT Dr. Who reference" meaning "add your own because I'm too lazy" or whatever. I was not saying that Red Dwarf was referencing Dr. Who.
@@Cyborcat AAAHHH...thanks for that! It went by so quickly that I didn't catch that. Thx for your response dear!
I'm with Lister... I AM that better version of me...:)
A male Mary Sue is a Gary Stu.
8:19
Cyborcat Just saying.
No, it is a Mary Sue character. The idea is not tied in anyway to sex, so there no is no reason to use alternative names.
I was always told Male equiverlent of "Mary Sue" was Marty Stu. Though technically Mary Sue can be used on either gender.
Cyborcat a male mary sue is ace rimmer
I'm not sure women's underwear really qualifies as a gay joke but there's also intent. I don't think the writers had malicious intent towards a certain culture.
I don't think I ever implied that the writers had malicious intent. Rimmer is written to be an asshole who is a laughing stock, and making homophobic cracks is one of the ways he shows that. I can't imagine anyone thinking that Rimmer's opinions reflect that of the creators.
@@Cyborcat Sorry I didn't mean to come off as rude or dumb. My brain doesn't work well sometimes.
It's called an alternate universe.thats why there different lol
I doubt Ace is homophobic. Bongo made a suggestion of gay intimacy earlier in the episode, and although Ace turned down the offer because he’s straight, he didn’t seem horrified or
offended at the suggestion.
Homophobia isn't a black-and-white thing. You can think it's okay for other people to be gay, and still think it's a horrible thing for someone to accuse you of, because you still have an issue with it, deep down.
Bongo’s suggestion wasn’t about other people though, it was about Ace and himself, and Ace didn’t seem to think it was a horrible thing to suggest.
And yet, he still got mad at Rimmer for calling him gay. Why would he be mad about that if he had literally no issues with gayness? It's only insulting if you take it that way, and he did.
5:10 Insert predictable Dr Who reference? Shouldn't it be instead, Doctor Who writers must have been Red Dwarf fans. I know both have to do with time travel but RD did it first. Not to say that it wasn't fun as usual watching all your Vlogs.
I meant, *I* would have been making the reference. "insert _____" means "pretend I made this reference".
Got it!
Wait, Ace is married to Kochanski and he flirts with Nellie (Alternate Holly), and it's implied that he was going to... umm... let her smoke his kipper. (Sorry for the mental image. )
So, was Ace going to cheat on Kochanski? What a git.
Ace isn't married to Kochanski, alternate Lister is.
Oh, sorry. It's just that they were talking about Ace, and how it's good to have an alternative reality version of yourself and I jumped to conclusions. *Engage Embarrassed mode*
I want that Top Gun rip off soundtrack!!
Everyone is gay for Ace.
Ro Jaws i am
Wearing woman’s underwear does not constitute being gay……a…..friend told me
No, but it's the kind of insult a homophobe would use because they don't know the difference.
when you are talking about men you say garry stu.
No. "Mary Sue" is the name of a trope, and I think it's silly to have gendered versions of it.
Awww... you're right... Ace is a Mary Sue...
Now I'm sad...
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Why do you keep posting numbers?
Cyborcat Umm... it’s a long story. I was editing my stop motions while watching your videos and so I needed to remember some numbers so sorry lol
Okay, well, at least I know now. Just use Notepad in the future--using my comments section for that is kinda spammy.
Cyborcat Yh sorry
oh my god i never realised until now that the girl covered in maple syrup or whatever was Holly *facepalm* anyway I love your vlogs !!