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Jubilee having that incel on was a mistake. That kind of man is an issue. The other 2 however have a good grip on men’s rights but you should also have had a black man on there because there are men’s rights issues in the black community that should have been brought to the light.
American Son yah nothing is wrong wi he presenting your opinion as you are doing here. Yes people with beliefs will present opinions that’s not a conspiracy theory. If you made this video it would have a heavy right slant, and that’s ok.
@@simonjaz1279 *yeah but um...equity for what exactly? They get what they work for as do men* When feminists say they want "gender equality" they want "equal outcomes" (achieved by treating the sexes unequally). MRAs want "equal treatment" and believe that since women and men are equal, both sexes should be treated the same.
Well, I understand where Derrick is coming from. I mean, he said that he was very traditional and if we were really talking about the old times like when men would really try everything to get a women. They would go and buy them flowers, they would pay the meal on their date, they would compete with other men because they really do like that woman, they would always be there for the woman, they won't cheat on their wife and kids. They would really be their guards (wife and kids) if there was a burglar entering the house or they met a mugger on the street, men would go and work for their family and the women would stay and raise their kids until they grow up. But now, men doesn't compete and give the best that they can to women, some would just rather catcall the women and force the woman to like them and go home with them. That's not toxic masculinity, those men doesn't have any type of masculinity in them. We cannot go and say that those men are masculine. Derrick just wants men to be what they used to be, a caring and protective people that they should be
@@Honeydewcrispso are you ignorant or defiant because you completely missed what he said he said there not equal is in what there suited for but equal as humans but fundamentally they do different thing but still make up that even 50%
You are not aware that the words "different" and "equal" are mutually exclusive because they mean the exact opposite. George Orwell introduced this way of abusing language in his novel "1984". Orwell named it "Doublethink": to simultaneously hold to mutually exclusive opinions on a topic. shaping these thought into words builds "Doublespeak", e.g. "war is peace".
@@Viewable11 i figure what they meant more accurately would be equity. Men and women are both needed in society, we cannot live without the other. They are needed in different things and are therefore equal in that sense
Because women are attracted to men with more testosterone which is why the Asian guy is getting his point across more without interruptions. Women and men treat the more attractive people better. Derrick makes many valid points but the women don’t like him being the one to bring them up. Lol
kjobful why are you comparing a debate to... attraction? like it literally doesn’t have anything to do. Btw a lot, and when i say a lot i mean a LOT of women are attracted to women so like, your point?
kjobful pretty sure Bea was pretty open to what Derrick was saying... the only reason you can tell they don’t like what he’s saying is not because of his looks, but because he literally stated that he doesn’t believe men and women should be equal... how is that a valid point?? he really thinks men are superior to women, claiming that kids aren’t equals to adults.. probably the worst analogy to use. also, the two other men i would say had valid points when it came across divorce trials and custody over children because i could understand an argument like that, but derrick is on a whole other level that’s just completely one sided.
salty sloth women historically have been treated like kids and babied by society since the beginning of time which is what has led to women having this extreme sense entitlement in western cultures. So him comparing them to children is more spot on than women would like to admit. My only knock on his statement is he didn’t provide and evidence to back his statement. And there is OVERWHELMING evidence to back that statement/comparison. And to be clear I don’t support feminism or mgtow both are capitalist funded movements to keep men and women fighting. But the non emotional dialogue is extremely healthy.
kjobful okay... but maybe women don’t want to be “babied”? women also don’t want to be compared to children, simple as that. yeah, maybe we have been because we weren’t aloud the same privileges as white males, but still. derrick wants to go back to where males were highly superior to women, that’s why they don’t like what he’s saying.
They all agreed that men and woman should be working together, as shown here we totally can, but i think a big problem is that they are trying to change one side of the medal without touching it all(maby a bad excample?) because both sides got problems and both sides got advantages, so its just them flipping the coin all the time instead of bringing it together like some human rights movement? Thats at least what I see from this video its just them telling each other both sides got their issues to deal with, like anyone who ever wasin a relationship for mor than a month knows(explains Derricks standpoint :P). Comming from a man dunno how that helps but thats my thought on it.
Christine Drummond ok buddy, they both were actually making valid points and shutting down a lot of the feminists invalid points. But as a woman you probably instinctively side with the other women and blindly disagree with the other sides points just because they are not women.
You can see the frust on everyone's face when derrick speaks , like not only from the feminist side but from the MA side too , they are like "why gotta open you mouth"
Ari Mijangos Ruiz literally not true. Feminism means the belief that men and women are equal. The large majority of men believe that too. Men can and should be feminists.
Derrick isn't even remotely representative of what the MRM wants. In fact, a part from Kursat I don't think any of them were MRAs. Zach is more of a conservative who's worried about men's role in society. He's clearly religious and seems motivated by this. "Real" MRAs though actually oppose all manners of gender roles across the board. They have zero interest in "going back to the past" and actually agree with feminists when it comes to equal treatment regardless of sex. I'm not an MRA myself but I have read a lot of their literature and it's really disappointing to see how they weren't represented in this video AT ALL. Derrick especially is a sad troll who'll give the MRM an even worse reputation than they already have.
@@SabatSch95 This is actually a good insight. Thanks for this. It would have been cool to hear more of what MRA actually stands for because from the video it seemed like the three men didn't really have a solid ground of what they would define as MRA --so it was difficult to understand their side especially the incel hahahaha.
@@mikaelatagaylo8765 IMO that's probably because MRA is heavily based in being reactionary toward feminism. It's not about men, but about fighting against feminism.
I think that was more Derrick and the feminist the French dude was respectful and factual and zack just wanted a different view and cared about men though
the way he thinks and speaks and looks , no he's not incel , he harvest the fruit of his own actions. He's being punished , and I must say rightfully so. These kind of idiots shouldn't be allowed to breed.
@Meat Pole people who self identify as incels typically come from a place of having bad experiences with women that cause them to polarize themselves against women as a whole. I'm not sure if you're familiar with TERFs but it's like the male equivalent of that. Some talking points revolve around feeling as though women only chase "Chads" which is the idea of a perfect handsome man, the idea that all women are manipulative and/or gold diggers, and that their personal issues with developing relationships with women are the result of problems such as these. Hope that helps
I think both Derrick and Mimi need to check their attitudes. All the other four were people who you would like to have a conversation with, especially Bea and Zach. But Derrick's idiocy and Mimi's blind faith put them on the top of my 'Stay away from' list
@Julius Songling haha Wow. Should put that in quotation. Maybe the lady on the left would have been better choice of words... but then again. You chose it... =[
Honestly the other guys were alright and have pretty decent points and then derrick is just there practically saying women are just here for sex and babies 🤦🏻♂️😂
exactly and he's on another video called im an lncel... but like the other guys were alright... well zach is probably the only one that didn't sound a little ehh at one point he didn't laugh at any of the woman of act as if it's incorrect, or they were sounding ignorant..
This is hard to comment on because I think many people have seen women act childish and it’s more socially acceptable because society has in the last 100 of years treated women as a commodity to be locked away, wed off to produce kids and stay at home without as much responsibility as men who overall had to protect family from threats, deal with decision making, providing income. This is controversial statement and it is definitely seen with some women who don’t want to take responsibility and grow up but it’s also a problem society has created and some people want to protect this traditional outlook but then complain about it later. Now we’re in a time period where women don’t need protection, can have equal education opportunities and can work and do jobs that men mainly dealt with and it’s amazing and a lot more easier for both sexes to deal with tackle together. I hope people can understand that and hopefully Derrick if he’s looking through these comments.
Cheeze berries I do agree. If you need the whole world to clear the way an change for you to be comfortable then you have a little bit in common with a child.
@@DeeznutztheOG same here, some people just act like we're not men enough and im very sure you mustve heard that saying too, i dont think its generally targetted against a specific gender though more or less just childish people acting childish
I think this is a really important discussion to have. Bridging this gap is important. Being a traditionalist, I will always acknowledge that many women have experienced terrible things. Some at the hands of men. I feel for them and will always validate those experiences. Using blanket statements like men’s response to feminist idealogy (albeit certain aspects) is angry or toxic is not the way forward. We must ALL listen to each other to truly find the middle ground.
@@Do27gg well tbf alesha on the womens side is pretty mental, so many of her takes in this are massivly uninformed and based on what she thinks is true about men rather than any actual fact
Bored Bored bored Well the thing was it was a discussion to allow everyone to share their opinions. Like they said they all have different perspectives, yet they fall under the same vague umbrella of Men’s Rights. And the other two should not be judged based on his comments, they are completely different people with completely yet somewhat similar perspectives.
What I still fail to understand is why women say wage gaps exist despite it being debunked thousands of times, because IF wage gaps existed, the corporations/companies would ONLY hire women because they wouldn't be paid as much, so the companies expenses would significantly decrease.
Natasel sorry but that is irrelevant , not in all arguments one of the side is right , in some argument non of them are wrong so it doesn’t matter , while in some argument both of them are wrong like in this argument both of them had faulty expressions that don’t even represent the least part of the society , they didn’t talk about real problems they talked about irrelevant matters
I personally disagree that men and women are equal, and I don't think women should be pursuing equality, but rather equity. Equality doesn't always mean fairness.
They didn't feel like the other side understood them. Both sides felt like they just got further away from each other than where they started, probably. That was so sad.
SCREW EM ALL. Except for non sjw feminism, then I'm with them, but currently in this video, f*** all of them.wait no my bad only Derrick and two of the feminists are tawxic. One of the feminists that I have called toxic arent all that bad. MAINLY SCREW DERRICK.
@@erickamunoz9497 I think he should, Ericka, he's an archetype, a representation of the mentality of a lot of people out there. I do think it's inherently problematic to give more volume to people with those opinions, but in this specific contest with the potential of counterpoints, it might have been constructive. Would not give him a UA-cam channel, though, intolerance towards intolerance isn't hypocritical.
@@auranimm "intolerance towards intolerance isn't hypocritical." It can be. What counts as intolerance and who gets to make that call? If your "intolerance towards intolerance" is greatly disproportionate to the intolerance itself, then that is hypocritical. Likewise if one is authorized to decide what counts as intolerance and another is not, then you can have a situation where: A(authorized party) does something mildly intolerant to B(non-authorized party) deeming it acceptable and not intolerant, B responds exactly in kind, A deems that intolerant and therefore worthy of escalation. Otherwise I think I agree.
I like Zach he was genuinely trying to like understand the other side and asked questions while still expressing his side respectfully. I absolutely cannot stand Derek wtf is he talking about I think that he needs therapy tbh, the fact that he said men shouldn’t show their emotions with woman. How do you deepen relationships with them like- . Also idk why he seems homophobic to me and if he doesn’t like woman so much why doesn’t he go date a man? like I need him to really just take some self reflection and everyone who genuinely agrees with him too.
Derrick is an incel. His literal purpose in life is to hate women and view them as an inferior gender. Feel bad for his mom or whoever raised him to be the clown that he is today. Yikes🤣
I genuinely don't understand why Derrick wants a patriarchal world. He won't be considered as a 'real man' in that world, and those 'real man' could just bully him and won't be condemned.
@@calthekonqueror312 Pretty much. I still can't get who had the great idea of inviting an incel like him to such a discussion. It only handicapped the men's side of the debate, making them look worse. Ayesha, on the other hand, at least looks a bit more sympathetic even despite me not agreeing with her points.
@@Plaky He does not even remotely represent anyone I ever met in person, guess I'm lucky. He is definitely an incel but that does not represent mra. They fight against "injustices" against men. Feminists fight against "injustices" against women. I try to look at things fairly and call out bias when I see it either way. In this case I feel that Derrick is a misrepresentation of their movement meant to make them look bad.
Exactly lol it’s annoying af when you’re scrolling through the comments trying to find meaningful conversations on the topic trying to see people’s opinions and even learn something, and all you see are comments about Derrick.
@@sleepypigeon8560 What's your point? People who get assaulted can be body builders and professional fighters, they still get assaulted. Terry Crews has been sexually assaulted and he knew he could handle himself well in a fight, but he chose not too because he knew the situation can escalate. Some people do fight off attackers. So again, I don't understand the point you're trying to make?
@@zeefaaldown3231 I'm centering in female because it's the theme they are talking about, I know theres all kinds of people who also need to be protected
I'd like to understand how does he planning on getting a girlfriend without even befriending her first. Be like back in first grade: "hey, you're my girlfriend now"; Girl "Okay" lol
@@UserRobot215 that is despicable how is anyone's sexuality disturbing, its who they are. And we are all born marked for evil, but you are in the top tear for assholes.
What he meant by that was, if we go back in the past where women actually appreciate men for kind and gentle gestures, are actually expected to cooperate in a relationship, and have the feeling they should help everyone other than themselves, it would be nice. Now, I am definitely NOT speaking for all women, but this is geared toward the modern radical feminists. And besides, they were talking about gender, not race, so the details about everyone's races and ethnicities isn't relevant to this topic.
@@billrussell4832 That's a pretty ignorant statement, and I as a straight Male I know as a fact that most women biologically are more open to expressing how they feel subcontiously and sometimes have trouble keeping in their feelings as much as men do. As you heard her say, she has definently had bad expereinces with men in the past and wants justice. I am black too and I have a huge idea of where she's coming from. I am not a men's activist nor am I a feminist, I'm only speaking from a general human perspective. My point is, just because a women's actions can seem childish at times doesn't mean they are because she was definently upset with every right to be upset, for a completely acceptable reason and to not see that makes you ignorant like the dude in the yellow jacket.
@@billrussell4832 Obviously I know about the real childish acting/literally crazy women I see but I can tell she doesn't represent that level of excitement.
@@hannah-7525 Um, what? As a woman have no problem being friends with a man. Although for a man, it’s difficult for them to have a friendship with a woman.
@@autumnperez6232 men and women cannot be friends because they are opposites. It usually ends up being something sexual/romantic. If not, you’re not actually “friends” you’re more acquaintances.
@@ghostspresence2172 I mean yeah, you've got to have a personality, you also have to aware of what the girl is attracted to. The girl may not even be straight but as long as you get along well with people it should be easy.
Master_ E honestly I just laughed at he comments though i don’t actually care what he say I don’t give a crap about anything to do with that or protest
The answer its fight for the rights of all humans and make things more fair FOR ALL. If we keep fighting for one side or another side all the law will be dibalanced in some point.
@@triipon_2774 It would show that there are men and women on both sides, and take away the male vs. female aspect. It also shows a broader perspective. Also, it shows that a person can be an activist for a movement, even when they don't have a person interest and benefit.
my girl was like "i specifically know of womens groups trying to change things for men" then saying my dude i didnt come with research i cant tell you who is just straight lying
@@brendonslife4584 If she knows that it's happening for certain, she'd know the name of at least one of the organisations, or would be able to point him in the direction of where to look, like for a specific court case or a movement or whatever. She couldn't because she was lying.
@@brendonslife4584 im not sure how this channel works but dont they tell the candidates about this debate before it happens? And if they did they should have had their research ready. And even if so she is a feminist who researched about this alot then she must know at least a name.
@@Lostachilles not really. I know for a fact there’s movements for world hunger but I couldn’t name you one!! Doesn’t mean I’m lying I just didn’t google it LMFAO
What does that mean, “can’t”? Won’t or not capable? Is it like the statement “I can’t drive”? Is it that you haven’t learned? Did you lose your license? Are you drunk? Or is it like “a male is my friend and my dog is my friend because I am able to respect their boundaries”?
As much as I disagree with Derrick, I’m glad he was there coz there’s a LOT of people in this world who share his views. These are the people we have to work on and educate.
Hey you guys, it’s real. There really is a sisterhood of women who are against men. Feminism is their disguise, look into “Lady Ishtar”- The goddess of war and love. The love she gives is used against you.
Yo Derrick isn’t in the wrong! No one is it’s just beliefs like if you were Christian and I’m atheist! We can still respect eachother and our own beliefs
16:30 i love how he put her in her place Derick is a freak they chose the worst guy ever for propoganda. But for some reason they chose normal people for the girls
@@rubenkulikyan3283a lot of feminists ARE normal people, that's why. It just gets blurred by the minority that misconstrue what feminism actually means.
Average Mo of course they were triggered and emotional from my POV they didn’t lash out or be near to tears but they did it in a calm way. How else are you supposed to have this discussion or any discussion of any topic at that without having some type of reaction. As long as we find a common ground or end goal without having one side having more power then we’ll finally be set.
No she was being a c*nt I don’t need you to protect me I can protect myself just don’t harm me seriously so what am I supposed to do when someone does it I thought you could protect yourself huh 🤔
@@formeryounglinkmain regardless of what you think of him and what he is... takes alot of balls to go on camera infront of a large audience and admit to that
@@morgyhns9235 well considering the whole world hates him I’d say it took a bit of courage to do that. People like derrick lost at birth and were most likely bullied from kindergarten up to high school.
@Barret Male feminists... the (future) king of my heart. I will never date or be in love with a man who believes that he or his gender is superior to mine. I will make this very clear to anyone who ever wants to be my S/O. So unless you live in Alabama and are forced to marry your sister, have fun being single
That's exactly what he was doing. He was infantalising women and acting as if we are children. He also did compare women to children. He even agreed to this.
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I think having an Incel to represent Men's rights activism, isn't exactly the best thing.
Jubilee pathetic
Jubilee having that incel on was a mistake. That kind of man is an issue. The other 2 however have a good grip on men’s rights but you should also have had a black man on there because there are men’s rights issues in the black community that should have been brought to the light.
when one of the feminist said she would laugh at mens rights thats honestly disgusting that just shows how toxic feminism is
You literallly picked men that knows nothing
Every time Derek said the words “even women”, the camera did an Office style pan over people’s faces because they are grossed out
It's because the left is the master of optics. They present "their truth" instead of an objective reality.
American Son yah nothing is wrong wi he presenting your opinion as you are doing here. Yes people with beliefs will present opinions that’s not a conspiracy theory. If you made this video it would have a heavy right slant, and that’s ok.
@Jason Tang yeah but um...equity for what exactly? They get what they work for as do men
Jason Tang Preach!
@@simonjaz1279
*yeah but um...equity for what exactly? They get what they work for as do men*
When feminists say they want "gender equality" they want "equal outcomes" (achieved by treating the sexes unequally). MRAs want "equal treatment" and believe that since women and men are equal, both sexes should be treated the same.
Watching a discussion that you're not able to take part in is the most frustrating thing ever...
i wanted to shout at my screen so many times
Same
Great way to practice listening, but I agree!!!
@pawtatuh e3e Some of the women were annoying as well. I don't need you to protect me. Why scream that? The guy was making a very different point
@@eagle3676 big brain jk I agree with you
There's 3 groups in this discussion
1. Men Rights
2. Feminists
3. Derrick
I see one group. Uneducated people.
@@ranyl7744 true I wasted 10 mins of my precious life in this
No Admiral Ackbar, It's a trap!
Derrick just came right out with that degree in incel, jesus.
Well, I understand where Derrick is coming from. I mean, he said that he was very traditional and if we were really talking about the old times like when men would really try everything to get a women. They would go and buy them flowers, they would pay the meal on their date, they would compete with other men because they really do like that woman, they would always be there for the woman, they won't cheat on their wife and kids. They would really be their guards (wife and kids) if there was a burglar entering the house or they met a mugger on the street, men would go and work for their family and the women would stay and raise their kids until they grow up. But now, men doesn't compete and give the best that they can to women, some would just rather catcall the women and force the woman to like them and go home with them. That's not toxic masculinity, those men doesn't have any type of masculinity in them. We cannot go and say that those men are masculine. Derrick just wants men to be what they used to be, a caring and protective people that they should be
I can't believe "Men and woman are different but equal" is an actual prompt. Like that is BASIC humanity 😭😭.
Exactly. Asian guy’s definition makes no sense. “Im not saying one is superior” that is the definition of inequality.
@@Honeydewcrispso are you ignorant or defiant because you completely missed what he said he said there not equal is in what there suited for but equal as humans but fundamentally they do different thing but still make up that even 50%
@@SekoishereWhy do you think the phrasing of the question was “different but equal”? It already accounted for those differences
You are not aware that the words "different" and "equal" are mutually exclusive because they mean the exact opposite. George Orwell introduced this way of abusing language in his novel "1984". Orwell named it "Doublethink": to simultaneously hold to mutually exclusive opinions on a topic. shaping these thought into words builds "Doublespeak", e.g. "war is peace".
@@Viewable11 i figure what they meant more accurately would be equity. Men and women are both needed in society, we cannot live without the other. They are needed in different things and are therefore equal in that sense
can’t get over how done the three women look every time Derrick talks
Because women are attracted to men with more testosterone which is why the Asian guy is getting his point across more without interruptions. Women and men treat the more attractive people better. Derrick makes many valid points but the women don’t like him being the one to bring them up. Lol
kjobful why are you comparing a debate to... attraction? like it literally doesn’t have anything to do. Btw a lot, and when i say a lot i mean a LOT of women are attracted to women so like, your point?
kjobful pretty sure Bea was pretty open to what Derrick was saying... the only reason you can tell they don’t like what he’s saying is not because of his looks, but because he literally stated that he doesn’t believe men and women should be equal... how is that a valid point?? he really thinks men are superior to women, claiming that kids aren’t equals to adults.. probably the worst analogy to use. also, the two other men i would say had valid points when it came across divorce trials and custody over children because i could understand an argument like that, but derrick is on a whole other level that’s just completely one sided.
salty sloth women historically have been treated like kids and babied by society since the beginning of time which is what has led to women having this extreme sense entitlement in western cultures. So him comparing them to children is more spot on than women would like to admit. My only knock on his statement is he didn’t provide and evidence to back his statement. And there is OVERWHELMING evidence to back that statement/comparison. And to be clear I don’t support feminism or mgtow both are capitalist funded movements to keep men and women fighting. But the non emotional dialogue is extremely healthy.
kjobful okay... but maybe women don’t want to be “babied”? women also don’t want to be compared to children, simple as that. yeah, maybe we have been because we weren’t aloud the same privileges as white males, but still. derrick wants to go back to where males were highly superior to women, that’s why they don’t like what he’s saying.
I saw everyone talking bout how they hate Derrick and I was like who's Derrick, then I saw the men walk in and it was all clear.
Jelly the jellyfish ikr lol 😂
Same😂
oh he's most likely saying that bc after a female heard the words coming out of his mouth, they made the right decision and waled away.
Bro same. I skipped to the middle and I was expecting to be confused trying to find out who's Derrick, but I knew it the moment I saw him
Jelly the jellyfish LITEEALLY
This comment section taught us: it's not Men vs Women, it's Men and Women vs Derrick
😂
They all agreed that men and woman should be working together, as shown here we totally can, but i think a big problem is that they are trying to change one side of the medal without touching it all(maby a bad excample?) because both sides got problems and both sides got advantages, so its just them flipping the coin all the time instead of bringing it together like some human rights movement? Thats at least what I see from this video its just them telling each other both sides got their issues to deal with, like anyone who ever wasin a relationship for mor than a month knows(explains Derricks standpoint :P). Comming from a man dunno how that helps but thats my thought on it.
I haven’t watched the whole video yet but I’m going to guess Derrick is the guy in the yellow.
Edit: Yehp, that’s definitely him.
I cringed at a lot of what he was saying, but also when Kursat kept insisting men was a class. Oof.
Christine Drummond ok buddy, they both were actually making valid points and shutting down a lot of the feminists invalid points. But as a woman you probably instinctively side with the other women and blindly disagree with the other sides points just because they are not women.
I'm going to be honest I would have refused to shake Derrick's hand regardless of which side I was on
You're so real for saying thattt
Omg tru
Same. He looks like a chronic master debater.
Yep
You can see the frust on everyone's face when derrick speaks , like not only from the feminist side but from the MA side too , they are like "why gotta open you mouth"
@Angry Egalitarian facts
derrick just committed suicide because of all the hate he got... rip
@@umamifan is there an article for that I wanna see
@@umamifan wait fr??
@@umamifan hopefully thats true
oh God, the way Derrick looks at those women and says things with a sarcastic undertone like 100% of sure I CAN'T
So true It was Cringe hearing him say all that face to face with a Feminist saying that online with a comment is a Different statement
He’s embarrassing like when he laughed when they stepped up on the first question. Also of course he had to look like that.
i haven’t seen a single comment that wasn’t about derrick
Including yours, ironically enough.
I have
But was hard to find
@@angelwashere4259 hi chrollo want to have dinner and discuss Hisoka?
Check my comment. Derrick does suck but videos like this beed to have comment sections about the bigger picture
The men's side was very understanding and the women's side as well. Then, you have Derrick.
Mens side a bunch of sexists
" you came in with your little research" thats what you call understanding lol
“Why do you need a whole men’s rights movement?”
That doesn’t sound very understanding
@@alexa7437but why do you?
@@엄복순-i6n watch the video and listen to what Kursat actually said and you’ll understand.
I feel like they should've found a girl who went along with men's rights or a man who was a feminist
Men can’t be feminists, sweetie
Ari Mijangos Ruiz I’m a man who considers myself a feminist lol
Bengiamino feminists don’t hate men you toad
Ari Mijangos Ruiz literally not true. Feminism means the belief that men and women are equal. The large majority of men believe that too. Men can and should be feminists.
Jeana Geertgens they hav another video similar to this one where they do!
Y’all know those women held back a lot of words for Derrick
Joy their faces say it all
@@M4RZ1Z I like watching Naruto
@Lea Sford you like Naruto
Now I’m not a feminist, but I was hopin one of em would explode on him 😂
@Lea Sford If your hope is realized then you yourself have lost this discussion.
Did anyone else read the comments about Derrick and immediately know who he was before he introduced himself just by looking at him
The Venom sweatshirt definitely helped
Who is he then?
Daniela what will that prove
Yuuup
yes
sometimes you can judge a book by its cover. the guy in yellow is proof of it.
i already thought he was going to be a piece of sheet, the rest on two men seems pretty resonable and actually debates.
This is so fr
I dont care bout deric but the woman completly failed on 16:30
@@rubenkulikyan3283sorry some people don't have a photographic memory
Derrick digs himself into a deeper hole with everything he says
Yup. He seemed to realize that too, but a little too late.
Derrick isn't even remotely representative of what the MRM wants. In fact, a part from Kursat I don't think any of them were MRAs. Zach is more of a conservative who's worried about men's role in society. He's clearly religious and seems motivated by this.
"Real" MRAs though actually oppose all manners of gender roles across the board. They have zero interest in "going back to the past" and actually agree with feminists when it comes to equal treatment regardless of sex. I'm not an MRA myself but I have read a lot of their literature and it's really disappointing to see how they weren't represented in this video AT ALL. Derrick especially is a sad troll who'll give the MRM an even worse reputation than they already have.
@@SabatSch95 This is actually a good insight. Thanks for this. It would have been cool to hear more of what MRA actually stands for because from the video it seemed like the three men didn't really have a solid ground of what they would define as MRA --so it was difficult to understand their side especially the incel hahahaha.
@@mikaelatagaylo8765 Those interviews are called the "raw files" btw.
@@mikaelatagaylo8765 IMO that's probably because MRA is heavily based in being reactionary toward feminism. It's not about men, but about fighting against feminism.
The way the women are looking at derick when he’s talking is killing me
Same lmaooo
SAMEEE THEY BE LIKE: 👁👄👁
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👁👄👁
RIGHT AGKSJDKD
That's what happens when you are raised without a father.
This one was the most tense. They seemed like they hated each other before even discussing.
True...but have you seen the flat-earther + scientists one? Cause I think that one takes the cake for intensity haha
Maya Owen I probably shoulda just said they hated Derrick. But yeah, the flat earth one just has the scientists looking annoyed.
this comment made me audibly giggle
worst thing, I don't agree with eather of the 6
I think that was more Derrick and the feminist the French dude was respectful and factual and zack just wanted a different view and cared about men though
derrick looks like he screams at his mom if she forgets mustard in his sandwich
Assumptions are dangerous things
@@Disci-pain so is derrick if he doesnt get his mustard.
@@ganjalfcreamcorn8438LMFAO I AM DEAD
FRR
@@ganjalfcreamcorn8438YOU’RE AMAZING.
Derrick referring himself as an incel in his introduction told me everything I needed to know about him right away
the way he thinks and speaks and looks , no he's not incel , he harvest the fruit of his own actions. He's being punished , and I must say rightfully so. These kind of idiots shouldn't be allowed to breed.
@Meat Pole people who self identify as incels typically come from a place of having bad experiences with women that cause them to polarize themselves against women as a whole. I'm not sure if you're familiar with TERFs but it's like the male equivalent of that. Some talking points revolve around feeling as though women only chase "Chads" which is the idea of a perfect handsome man, the idea that all women are manipulative and/or gold diggers, and that their personal issues with developing relationships with women are the result of problems such as these.
Hope that helps
What I expected to see in the comments: *People arguing about rights*
What there is: *People hating on Derrick*
David Hernandez Eh, I don’t blame em. Some people are just not the likable type *cough* Derick.
I think both Derrick and Mimi need to check their attitudes. All the other four were people who you would like to have a conversation with, especially Bea and Zach. But Derrick's idiocy and Mimi's blind faith put them on the top of my 'Stay away from' list
Ikr I love it 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
Derrick isnt that bad
@@SDLXVI said no one Ever... 😂
The two guys on the sides of Derrick are just like: crap, this dude is ruining our whole argument
Taterman 02 who is Derrick
@@user-gb2ol2cp1n The incel... the one with the fricking yellow jacket lol
@Julius Songling haha Wow. Should put that in quotation. Maybe the lady on the left would have been better choice of words... but then again. You chose it... =[
@@imnotaweebyounormie547 Haha... yeah
I'm Not A Weeb You Normie ok
bro introduced himself as an incel☠️☠️
They chose the worst of both sides
@@OZZIEBUILDING you gotta admit it was funny af
🤡
@@OZZIEBUILDINGThere's no way you actually believe in that statement
@@sthepcorms6747 what it is each of them act like the other has no problems in their life
i love all the women’s expressions whenever derrick talks
Lol ikr
Lmfaoo Yes!🤣
Yasss👍😂👍
They said:😐😒
Im 100% sure it's not alll about his opinions
“I feel empathy for the other side”
Derrick: *hesitates*
Derrick is that one student that didn’t research for his group presentation
beatsbysweat lmfao
“I don’t need you to protect me. I just need you to not harm me.”
Winner
Lazy fantasy
@@smayansrivastava12s32why so?
@@basichumanrights. because we live in reality not a lala land. And the reality sucks
@@smayansrivastava12s32 okay? So it’s better to spread what they want, some people actually need to hear this and some won’t listen and some will 😐
@@basichumanrights. ok
I can feel the other men saying in their heads “Derrick you’re making us look bad stfu.”
Yeah
nope
Honestly the other guys were alright and have pretty decent points and then derrick is just there practically saying women are just here for sex and babies 🤦🏻♂️😂
exactly and he's on another video called im an lncel... but like the other guys were alright... well zach is probably the only one that didn't sound a little ehh at one point he didn't laugh at any of the woman of act as if it's incorrect, or they were sounding ignorant..
I feel like he should have been there that way the other 2 men can see exactly what kind of men the women in the room have to protect themselves from.
question: men=women?
derrick: hmmmm, child...
Derrick is my father figure
Erin : tHat’S nOt vEgAn
This is hard to comment on because I think many people have seen women act childish and it’s more socially acceptable because society has in the last 100 of years treated women as a commodity to be locked away, wed off to produce kids and stay at home without as much responsibility as men who overall had to protect family from threats, deal with decision making, providing income. This is controversial statement and it is definitely seen with some women who don’t want to take responsibility and grow up but it’s also a problem society has created and some people want to protect this traditional outlook but then complain about it later. Now we’re in a time period where women don’t need protection, can have equal education opportunities and can work and do jobs that men mainly dealt with and it’s amazing and a lot more easier for both sexes to deal with tackle together. I hope people can understand that and hopefully Derrick if he’s looking through these comments.
Cheeze berries I do agree. If you need the whole world to clear the way an change for you to be comfortable then you have a little bit in common with a child.
@@DeeznutztheOG same here, some people just act like we're not men enough and im very sure you mustve heard that saying too, i dont think its generally targetted against a specific gender though more or less just childish people acting childish
25% of the comments: random stuff
75% of comments: everyone vs derrick
Including yours
Derrick: *Speaks*
Both rights movements: No
@@3HeadedGOAT311 as it should.
I think this is a really important discussion to have. Bridging this gap is important. Being a traditionalist, I will always acknowledge that many women have experienced terrible things. Some at the hands of men. I feel for them and will always validate those experiences. Using blanket statements like men’s response to feminist idealogy (albeit certain aspects) is angry or toxic is not the way forward. We must ALL listen to each other to truly find the middle ground.
Somebody needs to tell Derrick that "Heath Ledger's Joker" is not a valid personality.
*ded* 🤣
Lmaooooo, you put it into words
@@supposedlyaperson2168
_"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win” originated with Mahatma Gandhi_
This is the best comment I’ve ever seen
@@DemonsCrest1 I haven't seen any fighting going on, the whole point is to avoid that
This is how every question ends up:
They have a civilized conversation, Derrek speaks, and then it becomes chaos.
I really wanna like your comment but it’s at 69.
@@sulfur_americium2993 u can like now lol
Not chaos ... Syndrome!!
like number 609
Derrek speaks and then I wonder why he is even allowed in the conversation
I would have LOVED to see a feminist man and a men's rights woman.
Totally agree.
that’s exactly what i was thinking tho
Ngl me to
same.
Mee too 100%
Bro Derrick should never be allowed to go near a woman
He clearly doesn’t want to
Pretty telling that they chose to get a mental case like Derrick but not an equivalent for the women’s side
@@Do27gg well tbf alesha on the womens side is pretty mental, so many of her takes in this are massivly uninformed and based on what she thinks is true about men rather than any actual fact
Thats just your opinion bro.
I died lmao!!!
They should have gotten a man feminist and a woman men’s rights person... or just replaced Derrick.
tbh replacing derrick would make them agree on everything
yesss
@Quantum x Relativity You get two seats and double money!!!
yes
@doomzone megabomb lmao fr
You can tell everyone was weirded out and uncomfortable around Derrick
Might be worth empathising with what it's like to be him and know that what you're saying is true.
I was watching him
the other guys were probably like “godamn derrick quit making us look bad”
So true 😂
I know I was
Though they didnt need help either
Well they clearly didn't tell him anything to stop him... actions speak louder than words, my friend.
Bored Bored bored Well the thing was it was a discussion to allow everyone to share their opinions. Like they said they all have different perspectives, yet they fall under the same vague umbrella of Men’s Rights. And the other two should not be judged based on his comments, they are completely different people with completely yet somewhat similar perspectives.
I resonated with a lot of things from both sides. people often forget that we need each other and need to seek to understand each other
What I still fail to understand is why women say wage gaps exist despite it being debunked thousands of times, because IF wage gaps existed, the corporations/companies would ONLY hire women because they wouldn't be paid as much, so the companies expenses would significantly decrease.
@@RisumiesEditsthey are looking for an argument
Derrick shouldn't have been there, all he did was push the conversation back about 10 steps every time he opened his mouth
and that's the point. what bode lang's video Faking Authority, Destroying Merit
Couldn't have put it better myself
Thats why im glad he was there lmfao
the men's rights activist people were also embarrassed by derrick
All of us men are embarrassed that derrick is himself a "man"
@@LanxPenzenpepper correction: all of us men are embarrassed by anyone that thinks a "men activist" is a real thing
Maybe he didn't learn enough history.
Ryan Moores you are my new favorite person
he was the worst person they could have chosen for this episode lol
All the women facial expressions when derrick speaks is killing me 💀💀
Lmao right Aleyshas face 💀💀
Natasel Wait whose side are you one here? I am very confused with those words that are on my screen.
Natasel Do you mean that no matter what side your on it has some wrong faults?
Natasel sorry but that is irrelevant , not in all arguments one of the side is right , in some argument non of them are wrong so it doesn’t matter , while in some argument both of them are wrong like in this argument both of them had faulty expressions that don’t even represent the least part of the society , they didn’t talk about real problems they talked about irrelevant matters
Natasel you confusing me lmao.
In my opinion. We are different but equal. We complement each other differences.
Facts I mean ofc we aren't equal in every way. I do think that we are equal in most things
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️@@omotayosatuyi252
I personally disagree that men and women are equal, and I don't think women should be pursuing equality, but rather equity.
Equality doesn't always mean fairness.
Why do you not think we are equal?
@@liamreid4161 What's equity and fairness to you? Women have privilege over men?
"I don't think you can be friends with women," derrick says after being rejected
So he just marries random women?
XD
Not taking a girl to prom really did a number on derrick
@@ponderofluna8345 nah this dude will be forever single
@@namjoonsoldmyjamsfor3dolla404 lol your username and pfp😂😂..and hi armyblink
@@ponderofluna8345 funny of you to assume he’s ever going to get married.
I think this was the first middle argument I've watched, where everyone did not hug at the end
I don't want to imagine hugging derrick
The men were worried about going in for a hug because the women were feminist
At least they shook hands...
They didn't feel like the other side understood them. Both sides felt like they just got further away from each other than where they started, probably. That was so sad.
The men. Are scared of accusations
Men’s rights vs feminism vs Derrick
You decide.
I don't get what people hate about Derrick.
Wolfram Eicke Rest in peace he’s sexist
@@wolframeickerestinpeace2562 being an incel is not involentary you do it to yourself
SCREW EM ALL. Except for non sjw feminism, then I'm with them, but currently in this video, f*** all of them.wait no my bad only Derrick and two of the feminists are tawxic. One of the feminists that I have called toxic arent all that bad. MAINLY SCREW DERRICK.
Which one is derrick
Derrick literally explained toxic masculinity 😭
Could we get a timestamp?
@@STIMULATION_NEEDEDthey mean that he is the definition of it, by his actions
@@Apexwingman I just need a timestamp because of how much he is toxic masculinity.
Me: Comes to comments to look for insightful opinions.
Everyone: *Derrick*
Same😤
DR.LILJAY It’s because he shouldn’t of been there
@@erickamunoz9497 I think he should, Ericka, he's an archetype, a representation of the mentality of a lot of people out there. I do think it's inherently problematic to give more volume to people with those opinions, but in this specific contest with the potential of counterpoints, it might have been constructive. Would not give him a UA-cam channel, though, intolerance towards intolerance isn't hypocritical.
@@auranimm "intolerance towards intolerance isn't hypocritical."
It can be. What counts as intolerance and who gets to make that call?
If your "intolerance towards intolerance" is greatly disproportionate to the intolerance itself, then that is hypocritical. Likewise if one is authorized to decide what counts as intolerance and another is not, then you can have a situation where: A(authorized party) does something mildly intolerant to B(non-authorized party) deeming it acceptable and not intolerant, B responds exactly in kind, A deems that intolerant and therefore worthy of escalation.
Otherwise I think I agree.
Nobody:
Derrick lookin like a whole 4th grade boy and then a middle school boy attitude-
Istg he looks like the youngest person here with his attitude.
He’s dead he killed himself smh
Ugh yes this
@@respectablegunowner big if true
That's disrespectful to middle schoolers, I'm sure most have them have better views than Derrick ugh
Before Derrick even said anything I’m looking at this man like “Yep he’s gonna be _that_ guy”
same
SJW detected
Yeah
@@ManMan-ko7ll
Incel spotted
He was pretty nice in the previous video, but he is shockingly gross in this video.
Derrick is definitely a discord mod. He acts, talks and looks like one. Honestly.
I like Zach he was genuinely trying to like understand the other side and asked questions while still expressing his side respectfully. I absolutely cannot stand Derek wtf is he talking about I think that he needs therapy tbh, the fact that he said men shouldn’t show their emotions with woman. How do you deepen relationships with them like- . Also idk why he seems homophobic to me and if he doesn’t like woman so much why doesn’t he go date a man? like I need him to really just take some self reflection and everyone who genuinely agrees with him too.
I agree
i think zach has a youtube channel- zach hing. hes rlly respectful about it all too.
Derrick is an incel. His literal purpose in life is to hate women and view them as an inferior gender. Feel bad for his mom or whoever raised him to be the clown that he is today. Yikes🤣
I think derek gets rejected by woman so many times because he looks like a crushed pineapple and now he hates woman.
And kursat is the intelligent guy that no one understands
I genuinely don't understand why Derrick wants a patriarchal world. He won't be considered as a 'real man' in that world, and those 'real man' could just bully him and won't be condemned.
The only reason he's even there is to give feminists a way to use the "strawman argument"
@@calthekonqueror312 Pretty much. I still can't get who had the great idea of inviting an incel like him to such a discussion. It only handicapped the men's side of the debate, making them look worse. Ayesha, on the other hand, at least looks a bit more sympathetic even despite me not agreeing with her points.
I know he looks like your standard capital g gamer and yes i play video games but i dont identify as a gamer.
He was an absolute child.
@@Plaky He does not even remotely represent anyone I ever met in person, guess I'm lucky. He is definitely an incel but that does not represent mra. They fight against "injustices" against men. Feminists fight against "injustices" against women. I try to look at things fairly and call out bias when I see it either way. In this case I feel that Derrick is a misrepresentation of their movement meant to make them look bad.
20% of the comments: *opinions on the topic*
80% of the comments: Derrick
I mean,, Derrick is kind of a big deal
he is the video
Exactly lol it’s annoying af when you’re scrolling through the comments trying to find meaningful conversations on the topic trying to see people’s opinions and even learn something, and all you see are comments about Derrick.
lol, not even 80%💀💀
@@akilbrazier1421
He is annoying
The camera cuts to Alyshea’s face every time Derrick spoke
"-Sometimes finding a girl at all is hard."
For him I can see why...
I mean it’s true it’s hard for us but Derrick will never find one if he’s that sexist
@@huaraches8934 true
Its hard to find a girl even if you are not Derrick
@@dodgemaster6963 fr
400th like
there was really a three-way conversation:
feminists
mens rights activists
derrick
lol, ur comment is right under the one u copied
Sarah Jade fr
Bruh, copied
There’s always a Derrick
Period
“I can protect myself, I am very capable of doing what I need to do”
Derek: ok sure
@PC 2020 You aknowledge that it's better having men and women protecting each other? Many women that said they are capable have been asaulted.
I wanted to smack him through the screen
@@sleepypigeon8560 What's your point? People who get assaulted can be body builders and professional fighters, they still get assaulted. Terry Crews has been sexually assaulted and he knew he could handle himself well in a fight, but he chose not too because he knew the situation can escalate. Some people do fight off attackers. So again, I don't understand the point you're trying to make?
@@zeefaaldown3231 Exactly. Sleepy Pigeon, you don't seem like you look through all the cracks of assault.
@@zeefaaldown3231 I'm centering in female because it's the theme they are talking about, I know theres all kinds of people who also need to be protected
They should definitely redo this one
without derek
Did he really just say “I don’t think you can be friends with a woman so...”(8:34) I’m not even gon hate... that’s just sad bro... I have no words💀
Aisya McCormick like, if you can’t be friends with a woman...why would a woman find you desirable 😂
I'd like to understand how does he planning on getting a girlfriend without even befriending her first. Be like back in first grade: "hey, you're my girlfriend now"; Girl "Okay" lol
@Lzb Lmvm how so is feminism disgusting?
@@m.t2824 how is feminism disgusting? Lol just look at the pride marches or the womens marches. The only thing you'll find in those marches is filth.
@@UserRobot215 that is despicable how is anyone's sexuality disturbing, its who they are. And we are all born marked for evil, but you are in the top tear for assholes.
Derrick: *speaks* Everyone: 😐
Ight imma like
meme man 2.0 owo u have the perfect profile pic for that comment 👌🏿👌🏿
@@coltonhenry7990 thanks
Critical Hit couldn’t help but feel like that kid is the worst kind of person to ask for this show.
meme man 2.0 owo ur a 🐐
Derrick: **telling a black women it would be better to go back to the past**
"Oh yeah that's just derrick being friendly"
Ikr
Sometimes i think i would like to try and be in one of these videos, then I heard that part and wanted to reach through the screen.
@@kennedyjojackson1202 honestly same, it annoyed me so much. The audacity of some people ffs
What he meant by that was, if we go back in the past where women actually appreciate men for kind and gentle gestures, are actually expected to cooperate in a relationship, and have the feeling they should help everyone other than themselves, it would be nice. Now, I am definitely NOT speaking for all women, but this is geared toward the modern radical feminists. And besides, they were talking about gender, not race, so the details about everyone's races and ethnicities isn't relevant to this topic.
She's brown, please , van you see her color? Why you american must talk always about black people?
im covering my drink around derrick
you don't need to, he never leaves his basement
@@jimmkekw true that
Derrick: I’m a youtu-
Everyone: *I’m gonna stop you right there*
nessie now has a phone why do I feel like Derrick only got one like on his UA-cam videos
I literally said oh my god here we go 🙄
That black womans face when he said youtuber lmao
Bro
garlic bread thats exactly what I did lmao
When Derrick said he’s a UA-camr Aleysha’s face had me dead.
If he gets that look before even saying he's an incel I almost can't blame him for being one.
Aleysha was by far the most toxic one in the room
@@bryansalinas5547 ikr and people like her are the reason why feminism and men's right are a thing. Her behavior is really childish.
@@billrussell4832 That's a pretty ignorant statement, and I as a straight Male I know as a fact that most women biologically are more open to expressing how they feel subcontiously and sometimes have trouble keeping in their feelings as much as men do. As you heard her say, she has definently had bad expereinces with men in the past and wants justice. I am black too and I have a huge idea of where she's coming from. I am not a men's activist nor am I a feminist, I'm only speaking from a general human perspective. My point is, just because a women's actions can seem childish at times doesn't mean they are because she was definently upset with every right to be upset, for a completely acceptable reason and to not see that makes you ignorant like the dude in the yellow jacket.
@@billrussell4832 Obviously I know about the real childish acting/literally crazy women I see but I can tell she doesn't represent that level of excitement.
The disappointment on the women’s faces when Derrick talks...
And the men’s tbh...
everyone looks disappointed when derrick talks hahahah
@@joaopedroflausinodelima9147 ikr
Yep
The disappointment on everyones face when derrick talks
“I didn’t come with a list”
“Just 1”
“I didn’t come with a list my dude
proves shes wrong lmao you dont need a list for one
This isn’t Men’s Right vs. Feminism
It’s Men’s Rights
vs.
Feminism
vs.
Derrick
Actually this is Everyone vs Derrick
@@veryrealdrdog who is derren
I mean derrick
@@PolymathAtif The incel with the yellow sweater.
It’s two educated young men and a confused virgin vs feminism
Derick: finding a girl is hard
Also derick: why would I be friends with a woman?
Mylesthe Goat Ikr it’s just logic
Women and men cannot be just friends. It is against nature
@@hannah-7525 Um, what? As a woman have no problem being friends with a man. Although for a man, it’s difficult for them to have a friendship with a woman.
@@autumnperez6232 men and women cannot be friends because they are opposites. It usually ends up being something sexual/romantic. If not, you’re not actually “friends” you’re more acquaintances.
@@hannah-7525 lol no
i can’t tell if derricks hair is wet or just greasy
Hannah Johnson definitely greasy 🤮🤢🤢
obviously greasy.... I can smell the creature from here.
Hannah Johnson all three
Greasy
Everything about that guy is greasy.
I like how as soon as yellow jacket spoke everyone immediately knew what type of person he was and his vibe
The video title should be: "Men's Rights vs Feminism vs Derrick: Is Toxic Masculinity Real?"
اصص يا طعمية
If they don’t edit this I’m gonna be pissed💀
Honestly
@Liam Tate Not really the words I would pick, but like the whole 'I'm not like other girls' are sorta related to that.
@Swaggerdagger more like "Men remain deaf to all the woman's arguments and remain ignorant"
“For a guy, finding a girl is like, really hard.”
*kind of ironic coming from a guy like Derrick*
Its not ironic its actually true
@@ghostspresence2172 I mean yeah, you've got to have a personality, you also have to aware of what the girl is attracted to. The girl may not even be straight but as long as you get along well with people it should be easy.
XDDD TRUE
@@spandildhaka9398 so what is an eligible woman? a woman who listens to a mans every word? a women who isn’t confident? a submissive woman?
ayyeee Kim Jisoo!!!
Most comments are about how much they hate Derek and I’m living for it
Master_ E true
Master_ E honestly I just laughed at he comments though i don’t actually care what he say I don’t give a crap about anything to do with that or protest
@Master_ E Several men here hate Derrick too
were u the one that kicked his ass in school and took his lunch money lol just clowning but i cant help it something wrong with him
The answer its fight for the rights of all humans and make things more fair FOR ALL.
If we keep fighting for one side or another side all the law will be dibalanced in some point.
Derick is like every cliche rolled into one to the point where I'm wondering if he's an actor researching a role.
Sadly ive meant men like him
cj222100 I had the exact same thought
Right, like there's no way people
Like him still exist in this time and bruh if he's real
@Brandon Bevill I agree and him being a incel is even worse
As soon as I saw an overweight, white dude in a Venom hoodie, I thought to myself "he's going to make us all look bad isn't he?".
You shoulda had a feminist who is a man and a women mens rights activist
YES
what would that change
@@triipon_2774 it would show more perspectives
@@triipon_2774 It would show that there are men and women on both sides, and take away the male vs. female aspect. It also shows a broader perspective. Also, it shows that a person can be an activist for a movement, even when they don't have a person interest and benefit.
Derrick is why feminists exist
Everyone just deserves to be treated equally. No one is better than anyone else.
except derick
Someone is always gonna be better. Equality is unattainable
Zoe Kanu I’m sorry that you feel that way
I mean... zoe's not wrong, some people are just better than other people
Crebelcombs Yeah. Like many people are better than derrick.
my girl was like "i specifically know of womens groups trying to change things for men" then saying my dude i didnt come with research i cant tell you who is just straight lying
cause she knows that its happening she didnt look up that specific question the night before or anything unlike that other guy
@@brendonslife4584 If she knows that it's happening for certain, she'd know the name of at least one of the organisations, or would be able to point him in the direction of where to look, like for a specific court case or a movement or whatever. She couldn't because she was lying.
@@Lostachillesreal bro
@@brendonslife4584 im not sure how this channel works but dont they tell the candidates about this debate before it happens? And if they did they should have had their research ready. And even if so she is a feminist who researched about this alot then she must know at least a name.
@@Lostachilles not really. I know for a fact there’s movements for world hunger but I couldn’t name you one!! Doesn’t mean I’m lying I just didn’t google it LMFAO
The moment Derrick said “I’m also known as an incel.” I immediately was just like “Oh no...”
Insert Jontron saying oh no
as soon as i saw him i knew and when he admitted it i let out an audible sigh
The moment I saw your profile picture I knew I had finally seen everything
He was so proud of saying it and he shouldn't be, lmao.
It explains a lot of inner frustrations. He needs to try some mediation or healthy ways of being at peace inward. His outward angst is showing.
The moment of disgusted SHOCK when Derreck said that WE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE OLD WAYS WTF dude
Well he is a self proclaimed and proud incel. That sort of toxic mentality is expected from his kind.
@@drycoochie2146 name checks out lmao
IKR!!! First of all, the patriarchy is still sound. Second, which time period was he tryna back to?? MAGA head ass
Ikr like of course he wants to go back to the old days cause men could control women all they want and the women couldn't do much abt it
@@kingace6186 wild west days I guess but I don't think he'd survive
I love how Derrick was like “I can’t have a female friend” like what?!?! You can’t that’s just ridiculous
You can't unless one of them is in the closet
I didn't hear that part can you give me the time stamp?
And that is why he is an incel. Why would a woman want to bang or even go on a date with a guy who is not capable of being a friend?
@@faiyettes 8:35
What does that mean, “can’t”? Won’t or not capable? Is it like the statement “I can’t drive”? Is it that you haven’t learned? Did you lose your license? Are you drunk? Or is it like “a male is my friend and my dog is my friend because I am able to respect their boundaries”?
As much as I disagree with Derrick, I’m glad he was there coz there’s a LOT of people in this world who share his views. These are the people we have to work on and educate.
that was definitely the first time derrick has ever spoken to a woman
Hahahahhaha
and that was also the last time
This is why MRA should exist
When Derrick says he's studied something - it means he's been on google and youtube for a few hours.
you mean on r/incel
this is a horrible joke i almost killed my self
@@DiscAgent Derrick is that you?
@Reaganomics •101 damn I played myself by replying to a troller bot.
Hey you guys, it’s real. There really is a sisterhood of women who are against men. Feminism is their disguise, look into “Lady Ishtar”- The goddess of war and love. The love she gives is used against you.
The actual title: *everyone's rights vs Derrick.*
HAHAHAHAAHA
Lmao
Fr
Yes
Yo Derrick isn’t in the wrong! No one is it’s just beliefs like if you were Christian and I’m atheist! We can still respect eachother and our own beliefs
5:13 I LOVE HOW SHE PUT DERRICK IN HIS PLACE OML
16:30 i love how he put her in her place
Derick is a freak they chose the worst guy ever for propoganda. But for some reason they chose normal people for the girls
I wonder whyyy?🤔
@@rubenkulikyan3283a lot of feminists ARE normal people, that's why. It just gets blurred by the minority that misconstrue what feminism actually means.
2 men's rights activists and 3 feminists + Derrick
Derrick is his own species
@@yeehaw8835 xD
@Zackyboi Sharp xD
derrick is for sure a feminist no doubt about it
Average Mo of course they were triggered and emotional from my POV they didn’t lash out or be near to tears but they did it in a calm way. How else are you supposed to have this discussion or any discussion of any topic at that without having some type of reaction. As long as we find a common ground or end goal without having one side having more power then we’ll finally be set.
“Are you comparing women to children?”
She was READY to break Derrick at that moment
Same
I was too
I wonder how that would look like.
@@justinnamuco9096 14 jumbo-sized gummy worms would fly out from under that dark blue undershirt.
No she was being a c*nt I don’t need you to protect me I can protect myself just don’t harm me seriously so what am I supposed to do when someone does it I thought you could protect yourself huh 🤔
Everyone:
Derrick: I’m whats called an incel
that’s literally what he is
@@formeryounglinkmain regardless of what you think of him and what he is... takes alot of balls to go on camera infront of a large audience and admit to that
@@harrypottersucks12 it takes no brain cells to do that. No one in the right mind would admit to that
@@morgyhns9235 well considering the whole world hates him I’d say it took a bit of courage to do that. People like derrick lost at birth and were most likely bullied from kindergarten up to high school.
Go back to 2019
Oh great! Some people are going to have a great conversation and maybe agree on something!!!
Derrick has entered the chat.
*post switched for my personal amusement*
They don't need to, we have this comment section.
THIS video could've been called that.
Feminists and MRAs would just team up to say that Derrick is a straight-up misogynist....because he is 🤣
@@josenotmarichan I don’t know what Derek’s thought process was, but he just created a whole new side that contradicts MRA and Feminism
Derricks getting bitched
I wonder what the comment section would look like without derrick
Most likely alot of arguing but derrick seems to have been that unifying force
DUUUUUUUUDE It would be good
Lol same
Love how nobody is calling out the woman on their awful takes and logicies, instead focus on the ONE awful men's rights activist.
Less funny
I wish they had a male feminist and a female men’s rights
Barret thinking women should be equal as a man isn’t being a simp
Barret don’t use the word simp if u don’t know the meaning to it and in what situation it’s appropriate to use .
Ah yes one of the LEGIONS of female mra's
@Barret 🤡
@Barret Male feminists... the (future) king of my heart. I will never date or be in love with a man who believes that he or his gender is superior to mine. I will make this very clear to anyone who ever wants to be my S/O. So unless you live in Alabama and are forced to marry your sister, have fun being single
5:05 I love how she tries to put words in their mouth while she knows what she ment
That's exactly what he was doing. He was infantalising women and acting as if we are children. He also did compare women to children. He even agreed to this.
@@daliam8715 🫵🤡
I would have liked to see a male feminist or a female, male rights activist.
You mean a simp? A simp is no better than an incel. Both losers with no backbone
Nombie why would you as a woman would want to lower yourself and be under men’s control?!
I wanna see Bill Burr in this thing 😂
yeah 1 of each wouldve been good
Mona __ that’s not what it means to be a men rights activist.
There's right, there's wrong, and there's Derrick.
They should have gotten a man feminist and a woman men’s rights person rather than just 3 men vs 3 women
so glad i'm not the only one that thought that
I immediately thought of that when I saw them
Replace Derek
Are there really any women who are men's rights activists?
@@derpdawg3492 yes