F-5E Tiger vs Mig-21bis Fishbed: Which Is The Best Dogfighter? | DCS WORLD

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  • @Danofcanada
    @Danofcanada 3 роки тому +6

    Would of the two even have a dogfight of any kind if there was a war during that era?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому +10

      ua-cam.com/video/9zUvMEnwvW8/v-deo.html

  • @crossonyx8463
    @crossonyx8463 3 роки тому +8

    Last time I was this early the Red Baron was still flying above the western front.

  • @flighttherapybullisticfpv133
    @flighttherapybullisticfpv133 3 роки тому +8

    Ooooh Can we pls get a Skyhawk vs Fishbed comparison? I think the new flight model makes it at least a viable video

  • @sheeplord4976
    @sheeplord4976 3 роки тому +8

    The delta wing of the MiG-21 allows it to very quickly get nose on target at the cost of speed. This makes it exceptional for missile fights and snapshots. It is not very good in an extended fight like the one shown.

    • @CAL1MBO
      @CAL1MBO 9 місяців тому

      It is very good in extended fights too. Has a very high thrust to weight ratio. Just needs a competent pilot.

  • @TheFanatical1
    @TheFanatical1 3 роки тому +3

    Loving the F-5E being shown off. Hands down one of my favouite planes.

  • @B61Mod12
    @B61Mod12 3 роки тому +4

    27:05 Why would anyone reverse their turn in a single circle fight like this? He just gave up any angle he had on his opponent and totally invited that missile shot, which was unlucky to have not ended him.

  • @reichenwald-gm4qd
    @reichenwald-gm4qd 3 роки тому +12

    Please do the Mig 19 against F5 next. It’s a very interesting fight in my opinion because the planes are very different

  • @madaxe606
    @madaxe606 Рік тому +2

    The AIM-9P5 is a MUCH better missile than the R-60M. I expect that if this test had been AIM-9B/AIM-9P against R-3S/R-60, this would have been a lot less lopsided.

    • @CAL1MBO
      @CAL1MBO 9 місяців тому

      They should have done R13 vs AIM-9B. Agreed.

  • @Pookybr
    @Pookybr 11 місяців тому

    This might be a good what if. F20 tigershark vs Mig21. Seeing that we have seen the F5 vs Mig21.

  • @AXL4LIFE229
    @AXL4LIFE229 3 роки тому +2

    Going to comment b4 I watch the out come.. I'm personally partial to the F-5. It's one of my top five Aircraft I love to pilot In the game. So I'm rooting for it.. JS.

  • @einar8019
    @einar8019 3 роки тому +1

    max aoa for the draken at 350kmh is about 24 degrees per second sustained. if youre fancy you could do a cobra and get a 90 degree aoa

  • @palwanar
    @palwanar Рік тому

    That's a lot of effort, thanks guys.

  • @julianviefers6703
    @julianviefers6703 3 роки тому +1

    Really looking forward to the f5a in warthunder and see how itll pair against the mig21.
    dont have a pc so itll have todo for me :D

  • @ptrisonic
    @ptrisonic 3 роки тому +1

    Cap, can you prepare a plan for a quick pre-emptive strike on the HQ of the SNP? ;)
    Good to see "Tail" back in the F5 once more..

  • @slowhornet4802
    @slowhornet4802 3 роки тому +2

    Hi Cap, maybe you could test the following scenario: Let the F-15, F-14, F-16, F/A-18 defend the fleet: incoming Bombers launching streams of anti-ship missiles.
    Is the F-14 superior in this scenario? Could the other aircraft defend the fleet at all? (Fleet close to shore so F-15/F-16 could land and rearm).
    "Fleet" should be just a carrier (no anti air ships). Scenario with and without Aim-120.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому

      Are we shooting down bombers or missiles?

    • @slowhornet4802
      @slowhornet4802 3 роки тому

      I would say primarily the bombers, but in the end it is up to the interceptors whether or not they want to go for the bombers or the missiles.
      If number of bombers is high enough it might be more important to knock out the bombers, but especially with Aim-7 it might be an issue.
      # of interceptors should also be limited, so landing + rearming would be a challenge.
      F-16 fast but only 6 missiles. F/A-18 slow but more missiles. F-15 fast with 8 missiles... Tomcat with the longest punch.
      Airforce or Navy?

  • @kotor1892
    @kotor1892 3 роки тому +3

    Can't wait to see fulcrum vs falcon and flanker vs hornet! Do you take bets :D?

    • @koekiejam18
      @koekiejam18 3 роки тому

      I think best counterpart to the hornet is the flanker D, (naval flanker essentially)

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому +3

      16 vs 29 done. REALLY good.

    • @slowhornet4802
      @slowhornet4802 3 роки тому +1

      "Do you take bets?" At least Cap as an Englishman physically could not answer "no". Betting is hardcoded in their genes.

    • @kotor1892
      @kotor1892 3 роки тому

      @@grimreapers Go go GR!!

  • @fernandorosati9450
    @fernandorosati9450 3 роки тому +2

    Hello, very good channel, I wanted to ask you if you could reproduce the combat of Giora Epstein in the Dagger (M2000C) against 11 MIG-21 on the Sinai in 1973?

  • @Thetequilashooter1
    @Thetequilashooter1 2 роки тому +3

    No doubt that the F-5 would win . A Soviet pilot who got to test a F-5 after it was left by US forces in Vietnam said that the F-5 won every time in dogfights against the Mig-21 and Mig-23.

    • @saltMagic
      @saltMagic 2 роки тому

      They have the F-5 way too toned down imo.

  • @ricardomartinez1871
    @ricardomartinez1871 3 роки тому +1

    Let me share my Eureka moment during this video: Soviets didn't want that their pilots have a chance at defending themselves according to the design of the cockpit and the mirror to watch the rear section. Luckily that doctrine changed 180°.

  • @blackhatch46
    @blackhatch46 3 роки тому +2

    You cant deploy flares and just keep flying straight. You have to break phase and plane.

  • @baron1c
    @baron1c 3 роки тому +2

    F15 vs F16 guns and fox 2s.

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley5790 3 роки тому

    Woudl imagine it would be difficult for an F5 to get a MiG21to overshoot - huge delta wing would alow it to dump speed quickly.

  • @JTelli786
    @JTelli786 3 роки тому

    21:44 minor mistake but I can't help but point it out lol. You labeled the pilot of the Mig21 as Penguin when it was Pilatus

  • @stanpan4126
    @stanpan4126 3 роки тому +5

    Can you plz make a video on what you need to play dcs as well as the best plane to buy for beginners as I am in the market for the game I just need to know what I need to get.

    • @koekiejam18
      @koekiejam18 3 роки тому

      Go watch his buyers guides, as far as equipment ive seen people play dcs with just a keyboard, but just an xbox controller will work a little bit better. And in the end make sure you buy a plane that you like otherwise youll never be motivated to learn it.

    • @starwarsisajoke
      @starwarsisajoke 3 роки тому

      @@koekiejam18 my xbox controller can work on my laptop? I'll have to try that. Keyboard is so difficult.

    • @stanpan4126
      @stanpan4126 3 роки тому

      @@koekiejam18 thx

    • @koekiejam18
      @koekiejam18 3 роки тому +1

      @@starwarsisajoke keyboard might be difficult (but ive seen people fly all the planes with ease using it, just takes alot of time to get used to) and xbox controller definitly works, altough you might have to use your cable if your laptop doesnt have bluetooth

    • @graht1
      @graht1 3 роки тому +2

      ua-cam.com/video/9Tpp0pnR498/v-deo.html

  • @Decrepit_biker
    @Decrepit_biker 3 роки тому +2

    Might 21 vs mig 28 1980s soviet test footage, colourised

  • @jamesnorth7318
    @jamesnorth7318 3 роки тому +2

    Can we get the Aussie guy back on that knows what he's talking about more? He describes the fights very well.
    Cap I think you need to draw on your wall a one circle and 2 circle
    Nose to tail is not a one circle fight.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому

      LB? Yeh def would want him back.

    • @jamesnorth7318
      @jamesnorth7318 3 роки тому

      @@grimreapers yay you replied lol. It's bloody confusing sometimes lol I'll give you that. Anyway even though I'm yapping, I should be thanking you for the hours and hours of content and entertainment you've provided.
      Thankyou.

  • @SurelyYewJest
    @SurelyYewJest 3 місяці тому

    How did NATO come up with "Fishbed"?

  • @jamesnorth7318
    @jamesnorth7318 3 роки тому +1

    Yea I think the others were better without the cinematic view and just talk over the tac view

  • @jamesnorth7318
    @jamesnorth7318 3 роки тому +1

    No talking through the tac view instead cap? Tbh I think that was a better way or maybe I'm commenting too early in the video

  • @Skybolter
    @Skybolter Рік тому

    F-5E Tiger II Rules.

  • @Mrv9019
    @Mrv9019 3 роки тому +1

    mig 21

  • @mrsirkosky7618
    @mrsirkosky7618 3 роки тому +1

    This one's easy
    Mirage

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 роки тому +2

      Mirage goes twice as fast as it should in certain configurations, too arcade to be serious sim aircraft.

    • @mrsirkosky7618
      @mrsirkosky7618 3 роки тому

      @@grimreapers I am just teasin' you a bit.
      Edit: does this speed-problem sill occur in newer versions of the plane? Because I have bought it last fall and I never encounterd this.