I literally had 2 buy a ps2 memory card its $3 on ebay this cost almost as much as an xbox series its fucking ridiculous this is worse imo than ps vita memory cards but then again I'm probably 1 of 19 people who owned a Vita
For me this expansion card is a must get whether you have a Series X or S you got to take advantage of that next-gen speed. Just add an external hard drive for gamepass as well. The more the merrier
How much extra games can you put on it? I’m thinking about buying one soon but if if i can’t store a lot more games on my Series X then I’ll wait till it goes on sale.
@@DerekFisher789 it has more usable storage than the onboard storage of the series X so you get the idea because it also depends what games you install.
@@fightnight14 i only play sports games nfl, wrestling & NBA!! But when they make more new games I’ll be getting those!! What do you think though? Should i go out & buy it now or wait a few months in case they make another one with bigger memory?
@@DerekFisher789 Just depends how big your library is right now and what games you currently play. I have one now for my Series S and its not full but I like the idea of having more fast storage that can play Series X/S titles for future use.
@@timothyweakly2496 I live in germany. It is the adata xpg gammix s50 light 1tb on mindfactory. But I am sure prices in europe should be similar. Just go to a comparison site and filter cheapesr 1tb pcie 4.0 ssd.
@@ivanexell-uz4mv that would be regular storage. The dedicated SSD card doesn't hold many games, but it's not necessarily meant for that. It is meant to put on newer games that work off the "Instant Resume" feature. These are the Series S or X optimized games. You're meant to put one to three games on it, games that you typically play and will use the speed/loading features of newer games. I have a 3tb storage from a previous xbox now on my Series X, and it holds my games until I want to play them exclusively, at which point I transfer them to the dedicated SSD drive in my Series X. The SSD card in this video adds to that particular storage only.
For the people wondering Microsoft is definitely going to make bigger and smaller sizes they’ve stated essentially they just wanted to pair it with the base 1TB to see feedback and such and without a doubt I’d imagine they’ll have a range of 500gb-4tb soon enough. As well as many people don’t trust 3ed party software, many will definitely come out although I don’t think at a much cheaper price simply because they have to compete with sea gate while still being able to fully process the gpu usage of the Xbox but without a doubt some will release and lower the price a bit at the least
I read that Seagate had a one year exclusive rights agreement to be the sole supplier for Xbox Series X Console expansion ssd cards which ends this December 2021. Looking forward to many other electronic suppliers releasing newer, more reasonably priced ssd cards, to get more storage options out in the hands of consumers.
I bought one cause I was running out of space I didn’t wanna uninstall and install every-time I say it’s worth it if you need more space. The price is alittle unfair though.
That’s fine, but you lose the quick load times and quick resume feature if you don’t have this specific drive. About 8 games crippled my XSX hard drive and while having an external USB SSD drive or Mechanical is fine, it’s simply not enough if you want to have your games available immediately. $220 is expensive , but having it provides a much cleaner setup and not I can have another 8-9 100GB games instantly available. *Correction* You can quick resume from an external usb standard drive, albeit slower vs an SSD. Only specific “SERIES X/S” games whether they’re from last gen or current must be on the internal drive or the slotted one. For example , Gears 5, Halo MCC will not work “Series X 4K 100+ fps” from any external drive and MUST be internal
@@tears2040 you can't play next gen games directly off a hard drive anyway, only store that's what I think Daniel booke meant, just transfer as needed. You can still play previous gen games off one, but like you said just wouldn't have the quick load times or quick resume features. But a 90 dollar 4 tb hard drive sounds better to me than a 220 dollar 1 tb ssd. (Concidering trying to stay on a budget lol)
@@05DonnieB There is no nvme drive that size with that amount of storage, or those speeds. There is only one drive that reaches that speed and storage capacity and its from Samsung and its 3 times the size.
@@johnj8639 you're kidding right? Maybe you are thinking about PS5 in which case its SSD can reach 5500mb/s read speed raw, but the Xbox is only rated at 2400 mb/s. Here is but one example of which you can easily find even cheaper ones. Not only is it much cheaper, it is much faster. www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250110
@@05DonnieB I don't know where you heard 2400mb/s but that's not true. Same with the Playstation number. The Xbox has a peak of roughly 29,600mb/s and the Playstation has a peak of 44,000mb/s - another way is 3.7GB/s (Xbox) or 5.5GB/s (Playstation). The drive you list costs $180, and only reaches 3.4GB/s - it is slower than the xbox.
I purchased the expansion card same day and hooked the 4 TB HD from my Xbox One to the Series X. I probably spent too much time shuffling files around, but I came out with a system that makes sense to me: internal - Series X|S games, expansion - Series X|S overflow & frequent older games, external HD: everything else. I hope 🤞🏼 2 TB is good enough for this generation.
I’m thinking in the next couple of years they will be cheaper and hopefully offer more storage. I’m so used to having a 5TB external drive, which I am now using for all backward compatible games, that I can’t bring myself to spend it on 1tb...even if it is super fast. I’d probably only do it if I got to a point where the games are astronomically huge....which could happen in the next few years
My IT professor thought me to never overpay for storage solutions. He says in the early 2000’s he remembered paying hundreds of dollars for a 1gb usb flash drive
Rishabh Mulay just wait for other people to be the guinea pigs and read the reviews. I have 2 external HHD’s that aren’t branded for Xbox that had great reviews. I actually found that the Xbox branded HHD’s didn’t have as good of reviews as the generic ones. There are times that you actually get better quality with certain aftermarket items. With something like this I’m sure there will be some pretty solid aftermarket options.
Why don't you check how much is a 1TB "NVMe" SSD that's not the Xbox accessory, they are priced pretty close, so don't say it's expensive, NVMe SSDs are pricey for now regardless of who makes them
Microsoft needs to implement a storage optimization function with all of these expansion cards and HD support. It should be as simple as adding a card and hard drive, Xbox says you have a storage (pool) of X TB then moves files around to optimize. Microsoft had a technology in the past in Windows that grouped your storage devices to abstract it away to a set of content folders.
I've noticed the expansion card on sale at Target and a few other retailers for $179.99, so it appears there is a pretty decent margin for retailers to play with. This isn't surprising because there's a problem for console makers producing all digital systems that cut retailers out of the software sales. (Microsoft has entered a profit sharing agreement with Gamestop to incentivize them to make hardware sales without any hope of getting a direct share of the software revenue.) One way to keep retailers on board is to jack up accessory prices. Sony tried to do this with PS Vita memory cards but went way too far and damaged the platform instead. As Microsoft mentioned in their Hot Chips presentation, they chose to go heavy on SSD storage than increasing RAM to an amount comparable to past generations because the cost of flash memory was dropping more rapidly than RAM prices. (The Xbox 360 had 8X the RAM of the first Xbox, and the Xbox One has 16X the RAM of the 360, but the Series X only has 2X the RAM of the Xbox One and only a 33% increase over the One X.) The place Microsoft is expecting to enable the first price cut of the Series X is the SSD. When that happens there should be a similar price cut of the storage expansion card, which is nearly identical other than being package for human handling. If the Series X goes down to $450, then it wouldn't be surprising to see the expansion drop to $170. Perhaps by the next holiday season if flash memory prices continue to drop at a good pace.
Idk about the speed but a nvme ssd that size i can get in most cases for under $200 the only difference is that the ones I seen weren't from Seagate & didn't have a external case or papriatory plug. It was just the part.
Is All Business New Console And Only Getting 850 Gb Compare To Ps5 665 Gb Both Companies Know The 95% Of All Games Are Over 100Gb Sad But True We The Gamers Make This Companies$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
@@bacaveli Because that's the cost of an SSD for that speed and size anywhere.. Welcome to next gen gaming it's gonna be expensive.. The price will drop thou
As of May 2022 Seagate is still the only company that makes expansion storage for xbox x. 1 tb is still $220, or you can get the 2 tb expansion and bite the bullet for $400. The beauty of being the only one who makes expansion storage for Xbox X
As a Xbox Series X owner I would highly recommend people to look at the Expansion card rather than the drive if you have Game Pass and want it for Games as almost all the games optimised for X/S only work with the games installed on the internal memory. I made the mistake of getting an external drive which now is basically useless as games needs to be on the internal memory. Yes I could use it as a storage space to then transfer over to the internal memory at a later date but it still means something on my internal memory will have to go to make space. Also constantly removing and reinstall games isn't what I want to waste time doing but I would rather have more games ready at the go to just play straight away.
I've been looking all over the internet for the answer to the question: Does the card actually have a full 1tb (1000gb) of storage or is it one of those 900~950gb once formatted deals? Haven't seen anyone talk about this anywhere.
I bought this but decided to return. I’m just going to be cheap and delete and reinstall stuff. Also when I realized the hard drive was 44% of the cost of the system that was enough for me
I also bought a 2TB NVMe SSD with an external enclosure to put it in so I can use it as an external storage for better transfers between the Xbox Series X internal and the Seagate Expansion 1TB card compare to slower transfer of an external HDD. If you’re tight on a budget then that 5TB HDD is the best way to go. I guess I’m too impatient to wait 26 minutes on transferring games, but it’s definitely faster than downloading it from the internet 😅
People are going to complain about the pricing, but these are PCI-E 4.0 drives. 1 TB PCIe-4 for PC are $200, throw in the custom interface adapter and plastic.... $229 is about right.
@@geiers6013 no, but it’s pie-4.0, which is priced at $200 for a Sabre to rocket 1 TB on Amazon... which is typically one of the lower cost drives. It’s not about speed, it’s about the hardware support.
@@mindinversions4487 Its all about the speed. Nothing else matters. Microsoft decided to give the customer no choice, so you have to buy a completely overprised Ssd. But keep on fanboying. A Ssd with the same speeds at 1tb is worth 100$, for example the Samsung 970 evo pcie 3.0.
@@geiers6013 Speed has no effect on price. Only hardware specification. There’s a reason the drives cost double a PCI-E 3.0 drive of the same size... whether you like it or not. it’s not specific to the Series X.... it crosses over into PlayStation and PC land as well. I don’t know if it’s the type of NAND flash they’re using, or the controller design to support the PCI-e 4.0 spec... but apples to apples they’re the same general price across all platforms. Just because you don’t see the VALUE doesn’t mean it’s not priced competitively for the technology involved. It just means that subjectively to YOU it’s worth less, and you’re more than welcome to not pay it.
Video says its asking if the Seagate Expansion for Xbox Seres XlS is worth buying.... but is actually just a five minute advert for the External WD Black P10.
To save even more money...take advantage of the Microsoft rewards program...just by doing the daily games and incurring points I bought the 1tb card on Microsoft points....200k equals to $200 dollars...now I am going to save towards the 2tb card
Need higher capacity or lower price, $220 for 1TB (even NVMe) is pretty pricey especially since it will only be compatible with series s/x (i.e. can't use it as an external pc ssd). Understand this drive has some unique features vs USB SSDs, but pricing is still pretty steep regardless.
I have the money but it'd not worth the price for the amount of storage. I just got a XBSX last week. I had no idea about this storage issue, had I, I would have tried harder for a PS5. $400 for a 2 TB SSD expansion is ridiculous for my taste. I've been with Xbox since the original and these last two systems have made me look closer at Sony and moreso a PC.
I'm so tempted cause it's SO annoying. But I'm too cheap lol. Hoping there's a price reduction or different options / sizes available later in the year. P.s. do you get a full 1TB with the expansion card?
@@itsChannel2K00L14 since then I bought two. It's definitely pricey, still no 3rd party yet, but maybe in another 6 months there will be. But I'm willing to pay for that speed. It transfers very quick. 100 gig games transfer in 3 mins
Funny. I actually bought 2 of those (now older) WD Black USB drives that were for Xbox ... my for PCs! You can also plug-n-play them into Windows 10. The 12 TB model had 200+ MB/s write speeds. One of them I used as a backup for my network share. The other is secondary storage for my main PC. Though it's no ssd, still very cheap and fairly fast large amount of storage at around ~$250-300 depending on sales.
I had a problem with series x optimized games on my other external drive would the sea gate one fix this problem? The problem is I wasn’t able to play any of them
I had two 1 TB external hard drives for my Xbox one that I kept once I got my series s, and connected them to the new console. They work just as fine as these, as far as I can tell
Short answer No. Long answer No, you can transfer games from an external cheap HHD drive if you want to take advantage of load times. Also there are no next Gen games right now that uses all the fancy features. I have 10 games sitting on the internal and if needed I just move a game to the external and onto the internal. Even if you just want, you can play the backwards compatible games from the external. Once actual next gen games start coming out then maybe it will be worth the buy, and it probably will be cheaper.
Currently the expansion card in the UK is £200, the Xbox Series S is currently £199... It's like the PS Vita memory cards all over again but at least with Xbox you have other options
SSD's weren't very cheap when they first came out. Specially not at 1tb. So I'd say its worth every penny. I like PS5's option, but its lack of heat sink in the memory compartment worries me.
You dont need a heatsync for even fast ssds, because they are designed to get hot. How can this Ssd be worth it, when you can buy similar 1tb ssds for under 100$?
@@robertnees9781 Its all about the speed. Nothing else matters. Microsoft decided to give the customer no choice, so you have to buy a completely overprised Ssd. But keep on fanboying. A Ssd with the same speeds at 1tb is worth 100$, for example the Samsung 970 evo pcie 3.0.
Doesnt the expansion slot on the PS5 have enough room to accomodate an NVME with heatsink ?. It looked like the slot was deep enough in the breakdown video Sony did, could of just been the angle though.
Seagate has pulled a fast one on the Xbox community. How so? That SSD expansion drive doesn't recognize automatically all of the time. You will get a message saying the drive is not recognized and to re-insert and seat the drive properly. WTF???! Then you have to go back to the rear of your Xbox, pull out the little card and push it back in. Then, click okay and run whatever game you have on it. This happened to me with MS Flight Sim. Pissed 😡 doesn't quite explain the feeling you get after buying the expansion card. My Xbox is turned around almost backwards now so I can reach the card easier and quicker. Re-inserts of the card will also eventually DAMAGE the structure of the port the card goes into. This is beyond stupid and Microsoft let them get away with it and release the infuriating, overpriced, pain in the ass card. My Xbox doesn't even face forward now because it would be worse if it did.
It's basically just a low spec PCIE 3 SDD. It's not worth the price in terms of performance offered, but it is very user friendly so there's a trade off. Ideally it should be 40% cheaper than its list price.
I did an external storage drive that I got refurbished at less than 100 for 4 TB, but like Jordan says. It's more to move stuff around. You have to leave space on the SSD, to move Games around when you want to play them. But for sure it is way faster than installing them.
Did he not even mention buying an external SSD instead of a hard drive? That seems pretty biased. You can get nearly the same speeds as the expansion card on an SSD and get 2TB for less than the price of this 1TB card, only caveat is you can't play next gen games on the SSD. But you can just transfer them over from the SSD when you want to play them, and speeds are way faster than a mechanical hard drive.
At $299 CAD +13% HST, I'll wait till next holiday season where they hopefully knock off $50+. XSX only holds about 11 games (obviously depends on the games) but no way I'm paying that much for a memory card. Hell, give me a 500GB option and I'd take it.
@@asbestosfibers1325 I bought this and confirm. You can play some Xbox Original, Xbox 360 and most Xbox One games through an external HDD/SSD. However, if the game is Series X|S Enhanced (an X|S logo on the game tile), then you can only play it though the Internal SSD or this Seagate Expansion Card.
Using the internal and expansion card for all my X optimized games. Using a 3.2 NVMe 2TB Samsung T7 for all the One X games that I play a lot. And using a Seagate Xbox 2TB HDD for all the One, 360 and OG Xbox games I don't play too much.
Lol nice. I have a 12tb hdd that has all my stuff. Waiting for higher storage solution for series x speeds but everything im currently playing is on the internal.
Yooo quick question does yours fit in all the way where there’s no metal showing? Mine goes in basically all the way but there is still some of the segate card that’s exposed @ the very end I couldn’t tell at 1:41
I just don't like how the price of this proprietary storage expansion costs almost as much as the system itself. It's like asking someone to buy a $1600 PC then paying $850 for more storage space. The worst part is (most) 1TB NVME internal SSD's cost less then $200 let alone $220 that seagate is asking.
The real question was using SSD drives to expand storage, not the snail slow HDD. You can have a fast SSD drive for half the price of the official Seagate expansion card and you really did not cover this at all.
Thankfully my download speed is great so if I need to clear space I just uninstall a game I've not played in a while. If I want to play it again, I just download it in 20-30 mins
If you paid retail for your consul why not buy the memory card. There’s people out here paying $800-$1000 just for the consul alone. They over paid and got no extras
How much extra storage do you get meaning how much games can you save? I’m thinking about buying one soon but if it’s not that much storage then I’ll wait till the price goes down on it.
Those are older games that aren't going to be rewritten to run off of the SSD though. Who needs an NVME SSD just to load the next level in a linear game like Halo MC? An external SSD loads them plenty fast enough.
Like the Expansion card and a USB drive? Yup! That's how I have mine set up. The Seagate has it's own dedicated slot and the USB drive just takes up a USB port. Both work at the same time.
I’m looking for an external drive that can play Series X/S optimized games. The series X has 1tb but these damn triple A games just take up too much space
@@WandererHermit I have works a treat just got part from eBay and got someone to build it for me as I don't know how just bypass the system and the whole 5tb to use compare to a bloody 1tb most people are doing it and it 100% fine to do no law breaking.
Very informative, I was researching about this expansion storage and I have a Seagate 2TB HDD usb 3.0 with all my xbox one games. I am getting the xbox series x and the expansion storage as well for black Friday.
Key word HDD. The new consoles are basically NVMe speeds SSD. That's why the cost is expensive. HDD is dirt cheap but is good for storage. If your talking about gaming then you have to get SSD or constantly keep swapping data from HDD to internal memory.
I expected transferring to the expansion card to be quicker. That’s time isn’t that far off from using a Samsung T5, which is a runs at 550MB per second.
I think What I may do is that when I get the Series X, I may just put the games Optimized for it on the Xbox, and fill it with whatever else I can that I'm interested in playing, then put other games on my 2TB hard drive. I'll wait it out till larger (and hopefully) cheaper options are available. This vid has been very helpful. Thank you.
Like will your 4tb seagate harddrive mess with the performance of enhanced games or like is it just slow download times because I'm not trying to have games go down in frames or is it just not compatible with the newer games
I got told about getting one of these seagate ssd for Xbox series X but what am I not getting with these is this just storage? I keep seeing the word speed getting mentioned but the new Xbox is fast already I rarely get anywhere near filling up the 1tb that you get with the Xbox before deleting a game, so is this just for someone who has loads of the biggest games installed and can’t fit them all?
My green Xbox expansion hard drive doesn’t even work for the new Xbox series x games. You have got to install of internal storage which really freaking sucks. So I now have to go out and buy a new one
I still have plenty of space on my internal storage that my xbox series x came with. If I bought a seagate ssd thats designed for the storage expansion slot on the back of the console and transferred my games to that from the internal storage would it increase loading speeds/performance ?
I’m using this now on my series S but I’m about to get a series X soon and I wanted to know if I could take this out of my series S and use it on my series X?
Don't have an SX but on PS5 i just took a 2TB NVME Drive and put it in a USB case with some thermal pads. About the same price as the SX card and you still get the faster loading times at least for last gen games anyway.
They legit brought back memory cards. The nostalgia lol
@@BigChief1529 facts. This is what monopoly looks like. Once more are out it'll hit the prices hard
Hmm I dont remember them being cheap. I was paying quite a bit for just 32MB lol
I literally had 2 buy a ps2 memory card its $3 on ebay this cost almost as much as an xbox series its fucking ridiculous this is worse imo than ps vita memory cards but then again I'm probably 1 of 19 people who owned a Vita
@@BigChief1529 search for an internal SSD for pc with the same specs. They are all around that price
@@BigChief1529 not even the same thing lol...memory cards were for save files and were 8MB.
For me this expansion card is a must get whether you have a Series X or S you got to take advantage of that next-gen speed. Just add an external hard drive for gamepass as well. The more the merrier
How much extra games can you put on it? I’m thinking about buying one soon but if if i can’t store a lot more games on my Series X then I’ll wait till it goes on sale.
@@DerekFisher789 it has more usable storage than the onboard storage of the series X so you get the idea because it also depends what games you install.
@@fightnight14 i only play sports games nfl, wrestling & NBA!! But when they make more new games I’ll be getting those!! What do you think though? Should i go out & buy it now or wait a few months in case they make another one with bigger memory?
@@DerekFisher789 Just depends how big your library is right now and what games you currently play. I have one now for my Series S and its not full but I like the idea of having more fast storage that can play Series X/S titles for future use.
@@DerekFisher789 you can wait for price cuts or more storage. Im not sure if they will make one though
Apple sells their amazing wheels kit for $699. Oh, and they also have a stand for $999. So an 1TB SSD for $220 is really cheap.
But you can still buy a much faster pcie 4.0 ssd for 130$.
@@geiers6013 where sounds good to me
@@timothyweakly2496 I live in germany. It is the adata xpg gammix s50 light 1tb on mindfactory. But I am sure prices in europe should be similar. Just go to a comparison site and filter cheapesr 1tb pcie 4.0 ssd.
@@geiers6013 awesome thanks bud.
Damn what a shill. 1tb for 220 is fucking highway robbery.
No. Just buy a second xbox.
Smart man you are
200 IQ
Brilliant 💡
EXACTLY!!!
Just don’t buy any additional storage, and they’ll have no choice but to drop the price.
$200 for a 1TB storage card seems pretty steep
Much better of an offer than a 1TB SSD for $275
@@MicCheckMemoirs dude I just saw that for PS5 SSD and I'm like bruh. Almost $300 with Tax for an SSD.
@@mmm.3839 plus on series X/S is portable
I got a 4Tb for only 120. Wtf?
@@ivanexell-uz4mv that would be regular storage. The dedicated SSD card doesn't hold many games, but it's not necessarily meant for that. It is meant to put on newer games that work off the "Instant Resume" feature. These are the Series S or X optimized games. You're meant to put one to three games on it, games that you typically play and will use the speed/loading features of newer games. I have a 3tb storage from a previous xbox now on my Series X, and it holds my games until I want to play them exclusively, at which point I transfer them to the dedicated SSD drive in my Series X. The SSD card in this video adds to that particular storage only.
For the people wondering Microsoft is definitely going to make bigger and smaller sizes they’ve stated essentially they just wanted to pair it with the base 1TB to see feedback and such and without a doubt I’d imagine they’ll have a range of 500gb-4tb soon enough. As well as many people don’t trust 3ed party software, many will definitely come out although I don’t think at a much cheaper price simply because they have to compete with sea gate while still being able to fully process the gpu usage of the Xbox but without a doubt some will release and lower the price a bit at the least
Still waiting…
It seems like they have partnered with sea gate for the moment at least
@@danieljohnson4530 i think on their Xbox/Microsoft website they have a 512gb,1tb,and 2tb ssd
They all drip feed technology the xbox one could start with a 20tb....... think.
i'll wait for them to make a 2 tb or a 4 tb for the same price.
Good luck
@@Speedkilla22 I didn't wait LOL
You’ll have a long wait
@@alexwilliams7530 I didn't.
Dam I’m on the fence between waiting or not cause ima regret copping if they do drop those
I read that Seagate had a one year exclusive rights agreement to be the sole supplier for Xbox Series X Console expansion ssd cards which ends this December 2021.
Looking forward to many other electronic suppliers releasing newer, more reasonably priced ssd cards, to get more storage options out in the hands of consumers.
i hope so
Which must’ve really backfired as a deal, given how hard it has been to acquire next-gen consoles this year.
They pkayed their cards well not gonna lie i almost folded and bought an overpriced one
@@μποέμ why did you find a cheap one ? seagate are still the only ones i can find
@@jamesharnish650 frrrr
I'd like to see a 4 tb expansion for series x. Then it would be the same as my Xbox One expansion through usb.
Yeah
A 4tb ssd would cost (at least in pc terms) a minimum of 419.99. You are at that point almost paying for an entire other console.
@@CJ-ix3tw nooo
it’s gonna work for the xbox series x as well the 4 tb expansion
@@CJ-ix3tw I payed that much for the 4tb hdd years back for the Xbox One.
I bought one cause I was running out of space I didn’t wanna uninstall and install every-time I say it’s worth it if you need more space. The price is alittle unfair though.
I'm perfectly fine with the USB 3.0 drives and transferring games back and forth as needed. I can find something to do for 5 minutes.
That’s fine, but you lose the quick load times and quick resume feature if you don’t have this specific drive.
About 8 games crippled my XSX hard drive and while having an external USB SSD drive or Mechanical is fine, it’s simply not enough if you want to have your games available immediately.
$220 is expensive , but having it provides a much cleaner setup and not I can have another 8-9 100GB games instantly available.
*Correction*
You can quick resume from an external usb standard drive, albeit slower vs an SSD. Only specific “SERIES X/S” games whether they’re from last gen or current must be on the internal drive or the slotted one.
For example , Gears 5, Halo MCC will not work “Series X 4K 100+ fps” from any external drive and MUST be internal
@@tears2040 false
@@tears2040 you can't play next gen games directly off a hard drive anyway, only store that's what I think Daniel booke meant, just transfer as needed. You can still play previous gen games off one, but like you said just wouldn't have the quick load times or quick resume features. But a 90 dollar 4 tb hard drive sounds better to me than a 220 dollar 1 tb ssd. (Concidering trying to stay on a budget lol)
the future is now old man
Your video didn’t really answer the title... imo it’s worth the price, find me another nvme ssd at that speed for that price.
Almost all nvme drives at that size are much cheaper.
@@05DonnieB There is no nvme drive that size with that amount of storage, or those speeds. There is only one drive that reaches that speed and storage capacity and its from Samsung and its 3 times the size.
@@johnj8639 you're kidding right? Maybe you are thinking about PS5 in which case its SSD can reach 5500mb/s read speed raw, but the Xbox is only rated at 2400 mb/s. Here is but one example of which you can easily find even cheaper ones. Not only is it much cheaper, it is much faster. www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250110
@@05DonnieBon sale and second hand.
@@05DonnieB I don't know where you heard 2400mb/s but that's not true. Same with the Playstation number. The Xbox has a peak of roughly 29,600mb/s and the Playstation has a peak of 44,000mb/s - another way is 3.7GB/s (Xbox) or 5.5GB/s (Playstation). The drive you list costs $180, and only reaches 3.4GB/s - it is slower than the xbox.
I purchased the expansion card same day and hooked the 4 TB HD from my Xbox One to the Series X. I probably spent too much time shuffling files around, but I came out with a system that makes sense to me: internal - Series X|S games, expansion - Series X|S overflow & frequent older games, external HD: everything else. I hope 🤞🏼 2 TB is good enough for this generation.
Was it enough?
@@Chris-db5gy meh if you don’t mind deleting the games you play the least, 1TB is enough
I’m thinking in the next couple of years they will be cheaper and hopefully offer more storage. I’m so used to having a 5TB external drive, which I am now using for all backward compatible games, that I can’t bring myself to spend it on 1tb...even if it is super fast. I’d probably only do it if I got to a point where the games are astronomically huge....which could happen in the next few years
A 5TB SSD card is extremly expensive, like $800+
My IT professor thought me to never overpay for storage solutions. He says in the early 2000’s he remembered paying hundreds of dollars for a 1gb usb flash drive
Yeah just wait a year a two the price will have lowered by then
@@crashed6510 year or two? More like 10 🤣
@@crashed6510 still expensive today.
@@crashed6510Still the same price
@@RobbertNstill expensive today
I would wait for cheaper 3rd parties options.
3rd party options means cheaper ssd build quality
I would never trust 3rd parties with proprietary stuff. I just wish that they would make bigger drives
@@rishabhmulay5230 It should have been 2 or 3 TB
@@MyLostToys Yes, maybe they could make the SSDs physically bigger if that’s the issue
Rishabh Mulay just wait for other people to be the guinea pigs and read the reviews. I have 2 external HHD’s that aren’t branded for Xbox that had great reviews. I actually found that the Xbox branded HHD’s didn’t have as good of reviews as the generic ones. There are times that you actually get better quality with certain aftermarket items. With something like this I’m sure there will be some pretty solid aftermarket options.
I have series s, I keep all my games on a 2 tb external hard drive and then keep my couple of newer games on internal
Hi, is your 2tb external HD SSD or prior?
Why don't you check how much is a 1TB "NVMe" SSD that's not the Xbox accessory, they are priced pretty close, so don't say it's expensive, NVMe SSDs are pricey for now regardless of who makes them
Microsoft needs to implement a storage optimization function with all of these expansion cards and HD support. It should be as simple as adding a card and hard drive, Xbox says you have a storage (pool) of X TB then moves files around to optimize. Microsoft had a technology in the past in Windows that grouped your storage devices to abstract it away to a set of content folders.
oh so like raid?
I've noticed the expansion card on sale at Target and a few other retailers for $179.99, so it appears there is a pretty decent margin for retailers to play with. This isn't surprising because there's a problem for console makers producing all digital systems that cut retailers out of the software sales. (Microsoft has entered a profit sharing agreement with Gamestop to incentivize them to make hardware sales without any hope of getting a direct share of the software revenue.) One way to keep retailers on board is to jack up accessory prices. Sony tried to do this with PS Vita memory cards but went way too far and damaged the platform instead.
As Microsoft mentioned in their Hot Chips presentation, they chose to go heavy on SSD storage than increasing RAM to an amount comparable to past generations because the cost of flash memory was dropping more rapidly than RAM prices. (The Xbox 360 had 8X the RAM of the first Xbox, and the Xbox One has 16X the RAM of the 360, but the Series X only has 2X the RAM of the Xbox One and only a 33% increase over the One X.) The place Microsoft is expecting to enable the first price cut of the Series X is the SSD. When that happens there should be a similar price cut of the storage expansion card, which is nearly identical other than being package for human handling. If the Series X goes down to $450, then it wouldn't be surprising to see the expansion drop to $170. Perhaps by the next holiday season if flash memory prices continue to drop at a good pace.
That's how much an NVM.e with that write speed and storage space costs. 1 TB drives that small are not that cheap.
Idk about the speed but a nvme ssd that size i can get in most cases for under $200 the only difference is that the ones I seen weren't from Seagate & didn't have a external case or papriatory plug. It was just the part.
Cheaper than Sony’s solution too.
It’s only so expensive now because Seagate has a monopoly over the storage expansion slot, I would just wait.
To much expensive 220$ for such a small 1T memory
I don't like how the extended storage only has a 1 TB option. I wish 2, 3, and 4 were also available.
Especially for $220, you should be getting at least 2 TB on that external.
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@@bacaveli Because that's the cost of an SSD for that speed and size anywhere..
Welcome to next gen gaming it's gonna be expensive..
The price will drop thou
@@bacaveli ive gotten 4 TB of storage from seagate it was around $115
@@arianaherrera9232 yea but that wont play next gen games…
It's the normal price for a high speed 1tb ssd. Some people look at sata ssd and think is the same.
As of May 2022 Seagate is still the only company that makes
expansion storage for xbox x. 1 tb is still $220, or you can get
the 2 tb expansion and bite the bullet for $400. The beauty of
being the only one who makes expansion storage for Xbox X
As a Xbox Series X owner I would highly recommend people to look at the Expansion card rather than the drive if you have Game Pass and want it for Games as almost all the games optimised for X/S only work with the games installed on the internal memory. I made the mistake of getting an external drive which now is basically useless as games needs to be on the internal memory. Yes I could use it as a storage space to then transfer over to the internal memory at a later date but it still means something on my internal memory will have to go to make space. Also constantly removing and reinstall games isn't what I want to waste time doing but I would rather have more games ready at the go to just play straight away.
I've been looking all over the internet for the answer to the question: Does the card actually have a full 1tb (1000gb) of storage or is it one of those 900~950gb once formatted deals? Haven't seen anyone talk about this anywhere.
I bought it recently and there’s between 900-920 gb available, hope that helps 👍
@@danewag Thanks. Appreciated.
Will it make my console run faster and smoother so I can an extra advantage in CoD?
I bought this but decided to return. I’m just going to be cheap and delete and reinstall stuff. Also when I realized the hard drive was 44% of the cost of the system that was enough for me
aint a harddrive its an ssd
I also bought a 2TB NVMe SSD with an external enclosure to put it in so I can use it as an external storage for better transfers between the Xbox Series X internal and the Seagate Expansion 1TB card compare to slower transfer of an external HDD. If you’re tight on a budget then that 5TB HDD is the best way to go. I guess I’m too impatient to wait 26 minutes on transferring games, but it’s definitely faster than downloading it from the internet 😅
People are going to complain about the pricing, but these are PCI-E 4.0 drives. 1 TB PCIe-4 for PC are $200, throw in the custom interface adapter and plastic.... $229 is about right.
The Ssd of the Xbox is not faster than pcie 3.0 drives. So the external drive is exactly worth 100$.
@@geiers6013 no, but it’s pie-4.0, which is priced at $200 for a Sabre to rocket 1 TB on Amazon... which is typically one of the lower cost drives. It’s not about speed, it’s about the hardware support.
@@mindinversions4487 Its all about the speed. Nothing else matters. Microsoft decided to give the customer no choice, so you have to buy a completely overprised Ssd. But keep on fanboying. A Ssd with the same speeds at 1tb is worth 100$, for example the Samsung 970 evo pcie 3.0.
@@geiers6013 Speed has no effect on price. Only hardware specification. There’s a reason the drives cost double a PCI-E 3.0 drive of the same size... whether you like it or not. it’s not specific to the Series X.... it crosses over into PlayStation and PC land as well. I don’t know if it’s the type of NAND flash they’re using, or the controller design to support the PCI-e 4.0 spec... but apples to apples they’re the same general price across all platforms. Just because you don’t see the VALUE doesn’t mean it’s not priced competitively for the technology involved. It just means that subjectively to YOU it’s worth less, and you’re more than welcome to not pay it.
@@geiers6013 It is PCIe 4.0 technology, same as the PS5, Sony PS5 qualified 1TB expansion drives are the same price right now...
Video says its asking if the Seagate Expansion for Xbox Seres XlS is worth buying.... but is actually just a five minute advert for the External WD Black P10.
To save even more money...take advantage of the Microsoft rewards program...just by doing the daily games and incurring points I bought the 1tb card on Microsoft points....200k equals to $200 dollars...now I am going to save towards the 2tb card
Need higher capacity or lower price, $220 for 1TB (even NVMe) is pretty pricey especially since it will only be compatible with series s/x (i.e. can't use it as an external pc ssd).
Understand this drive has some unique features vs USB SSDs, but pricing is still pretty steep regardless.
Almost anything is worth it if you have the money and it’s something you really want.
I have the money but it'd not worth the price for the amount of storage. I just got a XBSX last week. I had no idea about this storage issue, had I, I would have tried harder for a PS5. $400 for a 2 TB SSD expansion is ridiculous for my taste. I've been with Xbox since the original and these last two systems have made me look closer at Sony and moreso a PC.
I got a series x this week, and we'll I had to get one of these cause I hate deleting games and making space haha
I'm so tempted cause it's SO annoying. But I'm too cheap lol. Hoping there's a price reduction or different options / sizes available later in the year.
P.s. do you get a full 1TB with the expansion card?
@@itsChannel2K00L14 since then I bought two. It's definitely pricey, still no 3rd party yet, but maybe in another 6 months there will be. But I'm willing to pay for that speed. It transfers very quick. 100 gig games transfer in 3 mins
Just bought that expansion from Segate. My palms were sweaty as I clicked ''buy now'' on Amazon, but f*** it. YOLO
Funny. I actually bought 2 of those (now older) WD Black USB drives that were for Xbox ... my for PCs! You can also plug-n-play them into Windows 10. The 12 TB model had 200+ MB/s write speeds. One of them I used as a backup for my network share. The other is secondary storage for my main PC. Though it's no ssd, still very cheap and fairly fast large amount of storage at around ~$250-300 depending on sales.
I had a problem with series x optimized games on my other external drive would the sea gate one fix this problem? The problem is I wasn’t able to play any of them
I purchased the Seagate 1TB SSD Card for both my Series S and Series X, bought it afew days after I got the machines on launch
It cost me $238
What
Ur point
Man I'd pay top dollar for 4 or 5 tb.
what you cant do is use the usable storage on the series for only next gen titles but still save other last gen games on to a hard drive or SSD
You can buy a 10 terabyte harddrive that will work for the series x and one for 120$. I filled half of 10 terabytes with games lol.
I had two 1 TB external hard drives for my Xbox one that I kept once I got my series s, and connected them to the new console. They work just as fine as these, as far as I can tell
Short answer No.
Long answer No, you can transfer games from an external cheap HHD drive if you want to take advantage of load times. Also there are no next Gen games right now that uses all the fancy features. I have 10 games sitting on the internal and if needed I just move a game to the external and onto the internal.
Even if you just want, you can play the backwards compatible games from the external.
Once actual next gen games start coming out then maybe it will be worth the buy, and it probably will be cheaper.
Currently the expansion card in the UK is £200, the Xbox Series S is currently £199... It's like the PS Vita memory cards all over again but at least with Xbox you have other options
It now cost $149 on Amazon
SSD's weren't very cheap when they first came out. Specially not at 1tb. So I'd say its worth every penny.
I like PS5's option, but its lack of heat sink in the memory compartment worries me.
You dont need a heatsync for even fast ssds, because they are designed to get hot. How can this Ssd be worth it, when you can buy similar 1tb ssds for under 100$?
@@geiers6013 ALL 1TB Nvme PCIe 4.0 drives are all around the $200 price point right now (both PS5 and XSX|S are using PCIe 4 from the AMD SoC)
@@robertnees9781 Its all about the speed. Nothing else matters. Microsoft decided to give the customer no choice, so you have to buy a completely overprised Ssd. But keep on fanboying. A Ssd with the same speeds at 1tb is worth 100$, for example the Samsung 970 evo pcie 3.0.
Doesnt the expansion slot on the PS5 have enough room to accomodate an NVME with heatsink ?. It looked like the slot was deep enough in the breakdown video Sony did, could of just been the angle though.
@@geiers6013 your wrong. The nvme's that are actually compatible with a PS5 are the exact same price or more then the seagate for the XSX.
Can you play the games straight from the drive? Or do you have to port them over before you can play the titles.
Straight from the SSD. It combines with the velocity architecture inside the X/S.
Seagate has pulled a fast one on the Xbox community. How so? That SSD expansion drive doesn't recognize automatically all of the time. You will get a message saying the drive is not recognized and to re-insert and seat the drive properly. WTF???! Then you have to go back to the rear of your Xbox, pull out the little card and push it back in. Then, click okay and run whatever game you have on it. This happened to me with MS Flight Sim. Pissed 😡 doesn't quite explain the feeling you get after buying the expansion card. My Xbox is turned around almost backwards now so I can reach the card easier and quicker. Re-inserts of the card will also eventually DAMAGE the structure of the port the card goes into. This is beyond stupid and Microsoft let them get away with it and release the infuriating, overpriced, pain in the ass card. My Xbox doesn't even face forward now because it would be worse if it did.
@shadowki1647 then I guess I just stay with external hard drives when I get one. Thanks
Cool gamer tag you have there; where did you get that? 🤔
It's basically just a low spec PCIE 3 SDD. It's not worth the price in terms of performance offered, but it is very user friendly so there's a trade off. Ideally it should be 40% cheaper than its list price.
The problem is its the only one for the xbox, we dont really have a choice other than to wait for the price to drop
@@danielthibodeaux3874 This is why I prefer the PS5 solution of just using off the shelf PC SSDs
I did an external storage drive that I got refurbished at less than 100 for 4 TB, but like Jordan says. It's more to move stuff around. You have to leave space on the SSD, to move Games around when you want to play them. But for sure it is way faster than installing them.
Video starts at 1:00
Did he not even mention buying an external SSD instead of a hard drive? That seems pretty biased. You can get nearly the same speeds as the expansion card on an SSD and get 2TB for less than the price of this 1TB card, only caveat is you can't play next gen games on the SSD. But you can just transfer them over from the SSD when you want to play them, and speeds are way faster than a mechanical hard drive.
xbox series x does not have usb 3.2 but it only has usb 3.1 gen 1
If they make a 2tb version it will likely cost twice as much so 400. Let that sink in.
At $299 CAD +13% HST, I'll wait till next holiday season where they hopefully knock off $50+. XSX only holds about 11 games (obviously depends on the games) but no way I'm paying that much for a memory card. Hell, give me a 500GB option and I'd take it.
Is it true that you can't play Series X Enhanced games directly from an external SSD either?
Correct, you need to play it from the internal storage or this external storage that is just as fast as the internal.
@@9to5toys That makes no sense at all. You said yes but then explain a no? So which is it?
@@asbestosfibers1325 I bought this and confirm. You can play some Xbox Original, Xbox 360 and most Xbox One games through an external HDD/SSD.
However, if the game is Series X|S Enhanced (an X|S logo on the game tile), then you can only play it though the Internal SSD or this Seagate Expansion Card.
Using the internal and expansion card for all my X optimized games. Using a 3.2 NVMe 2TB Samsung T7 for all the One X games that I play a lot. And using a Seagate Xbox 2TB HDD for all the One, 360 and OG Xbox games I don't play too much.
Lol nice. I have a 12tb hdd that has all my stuff. Waiting for higher storage solution for series x speeds but everything im currently playing is on the internal.
Yooo quick question does yours fit in all the way where there’s no metal showing? Mine goes in basically all the way but there is still some of the segate card that’s exposed @ the very end I couldn’t tell at 1:41
So with the sea gate I don’t have to shuffle them back and forth?
I believe you do.
Is coping the game from external to internal pretty effective?
I just jumped from xbox 1 and got the digital series s and ordered this 2tb so far happy just getting ready for some heavy gaming
I plan on getting one expansion card eventually so I don't have to do much swapping between hard drives and do all the rest on external HDs
My external non SSD Hard Drive loads game really fast also. Just use the internal SSD for the next gen games and you’re set.
I just don't like how the price of this proprietary storage expansion costs almost as much as the system itself. It's like asking someone to buy a $1600 PC then paying $850 for more storage space. The worst part is (most) 1TB NVME internal SSD's cost less then $200 let alone $220 that seagate is asking.
a year later and i still don't have the series x, i gave up and got the series s and the expansion card
Same
I got a year of game pass too
My ssd doesn’t work
The real question was using SSD drives to expand storage, not the snail slow HDD. You can have a fast SSD drive for half the price of the official Seagate expansion card and you really did not cover this at all.
Thankfully my download speed is great so if I need to clear space I just uninstall a game I've not played in a while. If I want to play it again, I just download it in 20-30 mins
If you paid retail for your consul why not buy the memory card. There’s people out here paying $800-$1000 just for the consul alone. They over paid and got no extras
I just bought one a couple days ago. It’s def fast and especially copying and moving games over to it
How much extra storage do you get meaning how much games can you save? I’m thinking about buying one soon but if it’s not that much storage then I’ll wait till the price goes down on it.
@@DerekFisher789 I have about 19-20 games installed with a lil over 500gb left. It’s a bit expensive for the storage but worth it
@@YEP2X I’ll save up then buy it next time i go to Best Buy!!
I've noticed there are actually some optimized games that can run from external storage 🤔
Those are older games that aren't going to be rewritten to run off of the SSD though. Who needs an NVME SSD just to load the next level in a linear game like Halo MC? An external SSD loads them plenty fast enough.
@@DigitalHaze65536 what about apex optimized version? And if Apex can why can't Fortnite ?
Question: is it possible to have both Hardrives hooked up to the same Xbox
Like the Expansion card and a USB drive? Yup! That's how I have mine set up. The Seagate has it's own dedicated slot and the USB drive just takes up a USB port. Both work at the same time.
I’m looking for an external drive that can play Series X/S optimized games. The series X has 1tb but these damn triple A games just take up too much space
I am making my own ssd drive WITH a 5tb 89.99
yeah good luck with that
@@WandererHermit I have works a treat just got part from eBay and got someone to build it for me as I don't know how just bypass the system and the whole 5tb to use compare to a bloody 1tb most people are doing it and it 100% fine to do no law breaking.
@@gunshipzeroone3546 bullcrap detected
What a weird way for Microsoft to add the possibility of storage expansion.. PS5 went the easy way and just gave full choice to the players..
So the seagate is like the internal upgrade and it’s the only thing I can use to play games huh. I might have to cop it next month.
Very informative, I was researching about this expansion storage and I have a Seagate 2TB HDD usb 3.0 with all my xbox one games. I am getting the xbox series x and the expansion storage as well for black Friday.
Key word HDD. The new consoles are basically NVMe speeds SSD. That's why the cost is expensive. HDD is dirt cheap but is good for storage. If your talking about gaming then you have to get SSD or constantly keep swapping data from HDD to internal memory.
The fact they didnt put the slot in front of the device is just weird
Seagate SSD card is working great. I highly recommend it if you can afford it.
@@Inlovewithlifefr then don’t buy it my dude
@@Inlovewithlifefr then delete and redownlod
Some games require you to swap from the external drive to the internal drive just to play
I expected transferring to the expansion card to be quicker. That’s time isn’t that far off from using a Samsung T5, which is a runs at 550MB per second.
I think What I may do is that when I get the Series X, I may just put the games Optimized for it on the Xbox, and fill it with whatever else I can that I'm interested in playing, then put other games on my 2TB hard drive. I'll wait it out till larger (and hopefully) cheaper options are available. This vid has been very helpful. Thank you.
Same
Like will your 4tb seagate harddrive mess with the performance of enhanced games or like is it just slow download times because I'm not trying to have games go down in frames or is it just not compatible with the newer games
Not compatible with Series Enhanced games
Thank you for a fast and informative video!!! 🥳
I got told about getting one of these seagate ssd for Xbox series X but what am I not getting with these is this just storage? I keep seeing the word speed getting mentioned but the new Xbox is fast already I rarely get anywhere near filling up the 1tb that you get with the Xbox before deleting a game, so is this just for someone who has loads of the biggest games installed and can’t fit them all?
Can you play big games on that card, cause the External Hard drive I have won’t let me play certain games it makes transfer them over to internal.
My green Xbox expansion hard drive doesn’t even work for the new Xbox series x games. You have got to install of internal storage which really freaking sucks. So I now have to go out and buy a new one
When transferring a game from a external hard drive does it take the same time as installing it ??
Hyping up accessories for next gen consoles when the BOTS have all the systems.
What is worth more in terms of cost versus benefit 1 terabyte or 2 terabyte?
So you can use the regular drives to move games back and forth to the console storage? But not storage directly on the console?
So let me get this straight. The SSD card can play optimized Series X games off it?
What happens when you remove it is there a setting you have to click to safely remove it?
A super fast 1 tb ssd for your pc also costs like 180-220 euro ish, so it’s not even that expensive to be honest.
Why cant they make a bigger card? Like 2 tb 3 and 4 tb?
Because the technology isn't that far along, and because nobody would buy them. It's already $220 for 1TB.
They can, and will. Eventually, the 4tb NVME will be the same price as the current 1tb. It is the nature of silicon technology.
@@deistdean486 but the tEcHnoLoGY iSnT tHAt fAR AloNg
I still have plenty of space on my internal storage that my xbox series x came with. If I bought a seagate ssd thats designed for the storage expansion slot on the back of the console and transferred my games to that from the internal storage would it increase loading speeds/performance ?
Thanks for the demo and info, have a great day
Can you use an internal and external drive at the same time???
I’m using this now on my series S but I’m about to get a series X soon and I wanted to know if I could take this out of my series S and use it on my series X?
Don't have an SX but on PS5 i just took a 2TB NVME Drive and put it in a USB case with some thermal pads. About the same price as the SX card and you still get the faster loading times at least for last gen games anyway.
No matter how you put it, €220 for a proprietary storage expansion card is ridiculous.
For real. It’s almost a price of console