You MUST point out the biggest difference with this storage. Portability!!!! You can hot swap these from one xbox to another, no formatting. Just log into an xbox with your account and bam your games are playable by just loading the expansion card and logging in. In a digital games world these make taking said digital games to a friends house that they dont own possible. This is how all console storage should be. It shouldnt be locked to one console.
Different tech. WD has had more years to work in this because Seagate has been sitting on the same product since the beginning… Seagate will have a replacement at some point, and it’ll be closer. That’s why there should be competition
Uh won't be closer, the Xbox is 4x2 and the Playstation is 4x4 which is also the industry standard. There's zero water for Xbox hard drives to be faster given they are physically slower on purpose to prevent... I'm not sure WTF Microsoft was thinking.
@@andyackerman7123 because ultimately *brand* doesn't matter when the Series S/X is hamstrung by Microsoft's decision to dodge "piracy" via crippling the PCI bus. There a community that's already done this guys experiments more in depth with precise numbers and the reason for the "glitches" he found. Also we used the third party adapter and turns out the reason more drives didn't work wasn't the software, but that the Xbox physically can't handle the better drives 😭😭 The PS5 was bought up to show the bus differences. It's Hella funny cause at first it looks like Xbox was gonna be the freer, hackable, affordable, friendlier system. Especially when the PS5 choked on Returnal, a game that lives or dies by hardware resume function of the internal SSD. We got played like suckered.
If both ssds were the same size ie: 1tb then this is a fair test. If one was 500gb and the other was 1tb then there will be a discrepancy because ssds usually perform better the larger it is because it will have more NAND chips and maybe a better controller(NAND).
I bought the WD for 2 reasons. 1: WD has a much longer warranty. 2: I didn't want to pay Seagate after they price gouged for years when they didn't have competition.
I hate seagate I've had way too many issues with seagate in the past I prefer wd but sadly they Dont offer a 2tb yet but will be buying the 2tb seagate but if wd ever comes out with a 2tb or bigger will be getting that to replace the seagate
@@DariusWhitehead-j1lJust wait for the price to crash. They have already halved in value since release, they will crash further I imagine probably ending up at 180-200 for the 2TB.
The 10 second difference is a known factor. The drive does indeed tranfer faster for often used files. I guess its on nand or memory or something like that.
I doubt Ray forgot, this was about relevant information. What you brought up is completely obsolete now Sony had fixed this within the first year and PlayStation owners began enjoying faster storage then the Series consoles at around a hundred and 20 bucks cheaper than Microsoft's lucrative deal with Seagate to screw over their own customers. While it's funny to note that PS5 fans were able to enjoy much more storage a year later while two years later the majority of XB customers were still stuck with 912 gigs default storage bc no one wanted to be ripped off by Seagate. Lol
I'm not doubting that the expansion was overpriced, or that ultimately Xbox should have gone a similar route as Sony, but what I am saying is it took Sony nearly a full year to enable expanded storage, and for the first 6months of availablity the prices were comparable. So it's not quite as simple as ps5 owners were given a better solution straight away. There are certain things that Xbox does that Sony can't do, you can set up the expanded storage as a portable game drive, you can't do that with the PS5, which makes it a cool solution for someone like me that has a series x downstairs and a series s in my office upstairs.
@@rrorge Fair enough, I'm in that boat too. I had a Series S so I felt like I had little choice but to bite the bullet on a Seagate 1tb SSD and when I got my Series X I gave my Series S to my daughter and shared the SSD between us. No doubt how convenient it is to truly plug and play the way XB designed their storage solution. I still bristle at the price Seagate had the nerve to charge almost the full price of a Series S. FKin Absurd. Yes no one forced me. But the way I don't know which game I get in the mood to play from day to day made managing the meager Series S storage swapping back in forth from my Samsung SSD a hard pass for me.
@@RedPillAlways You can't play PS5 games on external storage. You can play PS4 games or transfer the games over which is usually faster than redownloading them over the internet. The same can be done with Xbox series X/S. That being said with the PS5 you can install an M.2 ssd that has higher speeds, has more space and is cheaper than the Xbox card.
I have always preferred WD over Seagate. And the WD is cheaper so this has just confirmed my choice. I also prefer Xbox over PS5 but it is much better to not be locked into a proprietary system
There was a problem with the Solar Ash test. Going from opening the game to when you can "press any button" isn't good since all those screens are designed to last as long as they did and that's why you got similar results. You should have used loading screens to make a better test of how a game loads from the cards. Just something to think about if you ever make this kind of video again. Either way, I'm hoping to get a Series X this year if I can find one during these holiday/end of year sales.
When series s/x first released, you could use a high speed SSD's. A few updates later this became not possible for most if not all series s/x games. I load all my games on to separate a SSD so i don't need to download them again - although updates can still complicate things when you actually want to play the game.
Idk, but the fast forward bits with the 80s synth track hits just right for me. Lolz. I'm on series s, and definitely have been looking into a memory upgrade.
Something was “off” there. The Seagate drive was peaking at about 6.4 to 6.5 GB/sec transfers, and the WD was only managing just under 6 at best. I think that the big difference was that finalization process. 🤔
You never answered the first question.. why do we only have 2 options for expandable storage.. Seagate and WD Black .. would like to know your thoughts on that..
I put in a 25 gig hard drive in my og Xbox. That was huge at the time. I currently have a 1tb ssd external drive for older games and swapping games to Series X.
should've done each test 10 time then take average times out of the 10 tests per file, per card. this vtest was completely useless, because you even found yourself that with the one test when you did it twice you had a 25% time difference in the same card.
My solution is two 1trb 2.5 SSDs with enclosures for XBONE games/BCGs. 1trb expansion card for SeriesX games. Since SSDs eventually die Im worried about the internal drive and would try not to put too much rd/wrt time on it. Considering you have to send it to MS for replacing.
Confused by "ssd's eventually" I mean the sun eventually burns out too. SSD with no moving parts last far longer than the mechanical drives. So what are we really talking about here, 2-4 decades of life?
You should have dressed up as a track coach with that stop watch. LOL. Btw, the loading times of Solar Ash, and most game, is probably fixed by the game manufacturer to allow the same amount of time to show the startup screens etc and may not be affected by SSD speed. I know people have done tests of applications like Photoshop and found that the startup screens are purposely slowed to stay on the screen for X amount of time, and often there will be no disc read/writes going on.
I thought that too. But then I recalled how long the Witcher 3 took to boot up on my ol XBone. On the Series S the Witcher 3 was blazing fast to boot up. And on the Series X even a little faster, although it was tested on a mostly empty internal Storage of the Series X while Series S internal ws capped. And both used the same Seagate external 1tb storage card that booted up equally just as fast. Same thing happened in my test of FO4 with 150 mods that took even longer to boot up on my XBone then TW3 even did. the results were astounding. mere seconds and I was at the loading screen, few more seconds and I was in the game.
For the load time comparison it would have been nice to see you use the load time from the internal SSD as the baseline. So we could also get an idea on how the expansion card actually compares to the internal drive.
@@tyicbranch2734 yeah I completely agree I’ve got slightly more games and you about 600. All downloaded but then I used to be a broadcaster so I do have a lot.
Man, I remember in 2003 when my son opened his playstation 2 for Christmas just to sell it and buy an xbox. I'm going to be honest I never found out until he moved out around 2010 and wondered why the hell there was a leftover xbox in his closet
I had the Seagate with my first series S, got the western digital with my current series X and overheated the system and it cooked through western digital, so back to the Seagate expansion card
Noticed on some of your runs a game was still “playing” in the background and sometimes not. This will effect transfer speeds. Made your test less than scientific.
I have a Seagate 2 TB from Best Buy that I bought for $360 USD (on sale 10% off). I enjoy it. Nothing against the WD Black, but it is in the back of the console, so I never think about it.
@@sceneV145 If he got it at launch, it is probably worth it for not having to constantly transfer games between internal SSD and external HDD, like PS5 couldn’t use any M.2 for over a year, so Xbox was definitely winning for a little while by being able to have 3tb worth of Series X games installed vs 0.8TB on PlayStation. Now he surely has more games and can get another 2TB for about half the original price. If the timing was right, it was extremely worth it.
@@sceneV145 I can recommend the Seagate 2TB, just got mine for $152 at GameStop after maximizing discounts. Not that much more than a 2TB m.2 NVME, of course the NVME is 10x faster… but that’s really only for PC, and we’re on Xbox, so this is the best we can get.
Meanwhile for someone who just bought a series X today and is finally replacing the Xbox one 1TB advanced warfare edition……. These times are still other worldly forget the differences between the two cards. I’m more than ecstatic about both 😂😂😂
If and when the 1tb cards drop below $100 I'll consider it. I don't want to pay half or more the cost of my system just for an extra terry. In the meantime, I'm only playing a couple of games on the Xbox at any one time anyway, so I just install the games I'm currently playing.
I have the Xbox series S which I barely use. I have the Xbox series X which I live on and I this Christmas picked up the one terabyte SSD Seagate Drive job done
I bought one. Now I have to buy another one for videos. I dont have a computer to reformat the SSD. Didnt know once you format for storage you cant redo the format unless you have a computer. So keep that in mind before you format one.
FULL ANALOG!! You used a digital handheld stopwatch. Should have used a mechanical windup stopwatch. You know the ones that have hands moving around in the dial.
You can have an external SSD. it's going to be much slower transfer speeds / performance than the m.2 style expansion slot, but I think you're throwing around the term SSD too loosely.
I’m waiting for more 2tB option or atleast for the prices to drop really not tryna spend another $280 on just storage 😭but I will if it’s not cheaper within next 3-6 months
Great video thanks for all the informative videos which are also entertaining too however I wish you'd done a reverse test of transferring it back to the xbox
I know this isnt a great answer, but the og Xbox could only do 8GB, but the Xbox One could accept a 16TB HDD. SSD tech for consoles is brand new, once they become easier to manufacture the size will go up and the price will go down.
@@Hellraiser988 there is absolutely no original Xbox from 2001 that shipped with a 500GB HDD. That would have added thousands of dollars to the price tag of the Xbox at that time, storage like that wasn't cheap at all, and wasn't even necessary in 2001.
@@Hellraiser988oh for sure, but the cost to manufacture a leap in storage equivalent to that is not feasible in 2023, so while it's a point, it's moot. I would imagine the XSX will be modded in its own ways down the line, but the cost of making that sort of leap today would be equally cost inefficient.
One is very expensive for this expansion, esp when you see the see the price you would pay for a normal NVME M.2 either 1 or 2 tb, not only that it is very hard to get the 2tb expansion anywhere in Ireland.
Ray I bought a Portable 2TB solid State HDD It is a 3.1 plugs in the USB Port in the back on the Series X it's compatible with XlS bought it on amazon $70.
Who wouldve thought 20 years later xbox would bring back the idea of a memory card. I know people who have multiple with different games and saves downloaded onto em, even has one strictly for game footage and screen shot. They use the ssd that plugs in the like a modernday ps2 memory card
What's pretty irritating, is that external HDD do not work, I recently bought one (NOT Knowing of the type of storage the new Xbox consoles use) you cannot play optimized games without having to move them to the console storage (or an expansion card) VERY Disappointed, frankly. Does anybody know if the Xbox Series S/X will eventually get new Expansion Sizes for storage??
@chriswright8074 Will the Xbox series s/x get any new type of external HDD or larger sized storage cards anytime soon?? I don't mind having to use a card over external storage, but I'd like larger space Than just 2TB, and cheaper as well, $200+ for Just 2TB is kinda ridiculous
@@mikeywilliams4136 it's under 200 if you find a sale I gotten the 1tb under 50 and it's hard to say because last gen Xbox was capped at 2tb but I believe we can request the feature for bigger SSD
After a year or so of series x being out u could n u can still buy custom empty storage card casing n then u just needed a ssd to install in it, just ur xbox needed to accept it. To some people it was a cheaper option n for a while was a better option as the segate cards were unable to get hold of due to high demand. Then western digital came out with theirs to provide more options.
Non-Seagate drives don't have access to the velocity architecture, so the benefit would be more in ongoing general gameplay, rather than just file transfers.
This dude talks.. F O R E V E R about so much unrelated crap! !! On soooo many videos !!! On and on and wanting to go back in time.. bla bla bla. Dont care about all the other crap. Just get to the point already . Smh.
Real question is how do games play because these cards let you play without transfer so what's that even matter how does it affect gameplay and downloads.
Ray you left the fact that you could take apart the xbox 360 HDD down the drive itself and use it on the xbox 360 elite slim for extra space instead of buying the expansion drive although I use this method for my set for about a year tell Destinys expansions started to expand gig size. Lol.
Video starts at 5:50. This did not need to be 15 minutes.
Thank you!
You MUST point out the biggest difference with this storage. Portability!!!! You can hot swap these from one xbox to another, no formatting. Just log into an xbox with your account and bam your games are playable by just loading the expansion card and logging in. In a digital games world these make taking said digital games to a friends house that they dont own possible. This is how all console storage should be. It shouldnt be locked to one console.
Different tech. WD has had more years to work in this because Seagate has been sitting on the same product since the beginning… Seagate will have a replacement at some point, and it’ll be closer. That’s why there should be competition
Seagate 2tb have a different controller
Uh won't be closer, the Xbox is 4x2 and the Playstation is 4x4 which is also the industry standard. There's zero water for Xbox hard drives to be faster given they are physically slower on purpose to prevent... I'm not sure WTF Microsoft was thinking.
@@arnezbridges93 why are you bringing up PlayStation? The comparison was WD vs Seagate, for XBOX….
@@andyackerman7123 because ultimately *brand* doesn't matter when the Series S/X is hamstrung by Microsoft's decision to dodge "piracy" via crippling the PCI bus.
There a community that's already done this guys experiments more in depth with precise numbers and the reason for the "glitches" he found. Also we used the third party adapter and turns out the reason more drives didn't work wasn't the software, but that the Xbox physically can't handle the better drives 😭😭
The PS5 was bought up to show the bus differences. It's Hella funny cause at first it looks like Xbox was gonna be the freer, hackable, affordable, friendlier system. Especially when the PS5 choked on Returnal, a game that lives or dies by hardware resume function of the internal SSD. We got played like suckered.
@@andyackerman7123I was also really wondering why he keeps on mentioning the PS5. Wahahahaha....
This is like when Rocky Balboa faced off against Ivan Drago. This is a battle for the ages!
Ohh yeah!!!
If both ssds were the same size ie: 1tb then this is a fair test. If one was 500gb and the other was 1tb then there will be a discrepancy because ssds usually perform better the larger it is because it will have more NAND chips and maybe a better controller(NAND).
Yes but the 2tb Seagate SSD have a different controller
@@chriswright8074 this is my point. Ssd size needs to be the same for both tests
Also, were both cards empty when everything started? Ray didn't say
These “tests” were so far from following the scientific method-I’d be surprised if anyone who “liked” this video would care
He said they're both 1 TB. The WD Black costs less and is considerably faster than the Seagate. Western Digital is crushing it!
The WD Black doesn’t have a two terabyte so there’s that to consider and you know games will just keep getting bigger
I bought the WD for 2 reasons.
1: WD has a much longer warranty.
2: I didn't want to pay Seagate after they price gouged for years when they didn't have competition.
I can’t think of a time when I ever needed a warranty for a ssd lol
I hate seagate I've had way too many issues with seagate in the past I prefer wd but sadly they Dont offer a 2tb yet but will be buying the 2tb seagate but if wd ever comes out with a 2tb or bigger will be getting that to replace the seagate
@@DariusWhitehead-j1lJust wait for the price to crash. They have already halved in value since release, they will crash further I imagine probably ending up at 180-200 for the 2TB.
The 10 second difference is a known factor. The drive does indeed tranfer faster for often used files. I guess its on nand or memory or something like that.
Yea I've had the 1tb seagate expansion since it launched.
So lucky to have Ray Ramano teaching me xbox stuff
You kind of forgot that for the first year you just couldn't expand the storage of PlayStation at all, it was disabled
I doubt Ray forgot, this was about relevant information. What you brought up is completely obsolete now
Sony had fixed this within the first year and PlayStation owners began enjoying faster storage then the Series consoles at around a hundred and 20 bucks cheaper than Microsoft's lucrative deal with Seagate to screw over their own customers.
While it's funny to note that PS5 fans were able to enjoy much more storage a year later while two years later the majority of XB customers were still stuck with 912 gigs default storage bc no one wanted to be ripped off by Seagate. Lol
I'm not doubting that the expansion was overpriced, or that ultimately Xbox should have gone a similar route as Sony, but what I am saying is it took Sony nearly a full year to enable expanded storage, and for the first 6months of availablity the prices were comparable. So it's not quite as simple as ps5 owners were given a better solution straight away. There are certain things that Xbox does that Sony can't do, you can set up the expanded storage as a portable game drive, you can't do that with the PS5, which makes it a cool solution for someone like me that has a series x downstairs and a series s in my office upstairs.
@@rrorge Fair enough, I'm in that boat too. I had a Series S so I felt like I had little choice but to bite the bullet on a Seagate 1tb SSD and when I got my Series X I gave my Series S to my daughter and shared the SSD between us. No doubt how convenient it is to truly plug and play the way XB designed their storage solution. I still bristle at the price Seagate had the nerve to charge almost the full price of a Series S. FKin Absurd.
Yes no one forced me. But the way I don't know which game I get in the mood to play from day to day made managing the meager Series S storage swapping back in forth from my Samsung SSD a hard pass for me.
Now you can hold 8TBs on PS5 just on External an it true PCIe gen4 speeds
@@RedPillAlways You can't play PS5 games on external storage. You can play PS4 games or transfer the games over which is usually faster than redownloading them over the internet. The same can be done with Xbox series X/S. That being said with the PS5 you can install an M.2 ssd that has higher speeds, has more space and is cheaper than the Xbox card.
I have always preferred WD over Seagate. And the WD is cheaper so this has just confirmed my choice. I also prefer Xbox over PS5 but it is much better to not be locked into a proprietary system
There was a problem with the Solar Ash test. Going from opening the game to when you can "press any button" isn't good since all those screens are designed to last as long as they did and that's why you got similar results. You should have used loading screens to make a better test of how a game loads from the cards. Just something to think about if you ever make this kind of video again.
Either way, I'm hoping to get a Series X this year if I can find one during these holiday/end of year sales.
When series s/x first released, you could use a high speed SSD's. A few updates later this became not possible for most if not all series s/x games. I load all my games on to separate a SSD so i don't need to download them again - although updates can still complicate things when you actually want to play the game.
Idk, but the fast forward bits with the 80s synth track hits just right for me. Lolz.
I'm on series s, and definitely have been looking into a memory upgrade.
Something was “off” there. The Seagate drive was peaking at about 6.4 to 6.5 GB/sec transfers, and the WD was only managing just under 6 at best. I think that the big difference was that finalization process. 🤔
You never answered the first question.. why do we only have 2 options for expandable storage.. Seagate and WD Black .. would like to know your thoughts on that..
Dude, you're the man. You really love this stuff and it shows. Long live your channel.
I believe Walmart has a 1 terabyte card and a 2 terabyte SSD Seagate for 200 dollars as a bundle
An Xbox ssd and a regular HDD bundle
@@UA-camCensorsYes it's even on there app. It's the Xbox dual pack and it's amazing
I’ve seen a 4 terabyte on Amazon
I put in a 25 gig hard drive in my og Xbox. That was huge at the time.
I currently have a 1tb ssd external drive for older games and swapping games to Series X.
i like that your trying something new keep making w videos!
I have 6 TB of Seagate storage cards, and 12TB of Samsung 860 SSDs external which houses 4 generations of Xbox games.
should've done each test 10 time then take average times out of the 10 tests per file, per card.
this vtest was completely useless, because you even found yourself that with the one test when you did it twice you had a 25% time difference in the same card.
I got the Western digital card recently and its running great so far.
Be nice to run optimized games on externals
My solution is two 1trb 2.5 SSDs with enclosures for XBONE games/BCGs. 1trb expansion card for SeriesX games. Since SSDs eventually die Im worried about the internal drive and would try not to put too much rd/wrt time on it. Considering you have to send it to MS for replacing.
Confused by "ssd's eventually" I mean the sun eventually burns out too. SSD with no moving parts last far longer than the mechanical drives. So what are we really talking about here, 2-4 decades of life?
@@srobeck77thank you for clarifying be I saw the comment above and was a little confused/worried
You should have dressed up as a track coach with that stop watch. LOL. Btw, the loading times of Solar Ash, and most game, is probably fixed by the game manufacturer to allow the same amount of time to show the startup screens etc and may not be affected by SSD speed. I know people have done tests of applications like Photoshop and found that the startup screens are purposely slowed to stay on the screen for X amount of time, and often there will be no disc read/writes going on.
I thought that too. But then I recalled how long the Witcher 3 took to boot up on my ol XBone. On the Series S the Witcher 3 was blazing fast to boot up. And on the Series X even a little faster, although it was tested on a mostly empty internal Storage of the Series X while Series S internal ws capped. And both used the same Seagate external 1tb storage card that booted up equally just as fast.
Same thing happened in my test of FO4 with 150 mods that took even longer to boot up on my XBone then TW3 even did. the results were astounding. mere seconds and I was at the loading screen, few more seconds and I was in the game.
The best way to time these things is through recording the screens and post production timing them
This is a really cool video Ray. I'm actually fascinated by this.
For the load time comparison it would have been nice to see you use the load time from the internal SSD as the baseline. So we could also get an idea on how the expansion card actually compares to the internal drive.
finishing things up is when it takes the downloaded parts and assembles them in the most efficient way
I’m definitely in the market for one of these. Sick to death of hard drives.
I'm the same way I have like 90 games and I'm sick of swaping games over Im thinking about getting one of these to download my next gen games on
@@tyicbranch27342tb
@@tyicbranch2734 yeah I completely agree I’ve got slightly more games and you about 600. All downloaded but then I used to be a broadcaster so I do have a lot.
Man, I remember in 2003 when my son opened his playstation 2 for Christmas just to sell it and buy an xbox. I'm going to be honest I never found out until he moved out around 2010 and wondered why the hell there was a leftover xbox in his closet
If there were 4 tb external ssd I will start getting hyped..
Would u get just as hyped for the $1,000 price tag it would come with?
Lol overkill
You forgot that the 360 actually had small memory cards that went into the front of the console!
I had the Seagate with my first series S, got the western digital with my current series X and overheated the system and it cooked through western digital, so back to the Seagate expansion card
Noticed on some of your runs a game was still “playing” in the background and sometimes not. This will effect transfer speeds. Made your test less than scientific.
Love the 80s workout music selection for the timing portion.
Np
This is why I love this channel thank you Xbox Ready you are always the best facts about Xbox
I have a Seagate 2 TB from Best Buy that I bought for $360 USD (on sale 10% off). I enjoy it. Nothing against the WD Black, but it is in the back of the console, so I never think about it.
Is it worth getting still
@@sceneV145definitely not
@@sceneV145 If he got it at launch, it is probably worth it for not having to constantly transfer games between internal SSD and external HDD, like PS5 couldn’t use any M.2 for over a year, so Xbox was definitely winning for a little while by being able to have 3tb worth of Series X games installed vs 0.8TB on PlayStation. Now he surely has more games and can get another 2TB for about half the original price. If the timing was right, it was extremely worth it.
@@sceneV145 I can recommend the Seagate 2TB, just got mine for $152 at GameStop after maximizing discounts. Not that much more than a 2TB m.2 NVME, of course the NVME is 10x faster… but that’s really only for PC, and we’re on Xbox, so this is the best we can get.
Meanwhile for someone who just bought a series X today and is finally replacing the Xbox one 1TB advanced warfare edition……. These times are still other worldly forget the differences between the two cards. I’m more than ecstatic about both 😂😂😂
If and when the 1tb cards drop below $100 I'll consider it. I don't want to pay half or more the cost of my system just for an extra terry.
In the meantime, I'm only playing a couple of games on the Xbox at any one time anyway, so I just install the games I'm currently playing.
Whoa whoa. Did the exclusivity end?
I have the Xbox series S which I barely use. I have the Xbox series X which I live on and I this Christmas picked up the one terabyte SSD Seagate Drive job done
What we need is an adapter that allows any m.2 nvme with sufficient speed.
Hey ray Do you think Microsoft will ever release a light gun For the Xbox Series S and x To compete with the playstation VR2
Great video these things matter I got PS 1 vibes from these MCs ✌🏽
They should make a cd that you put in the slot that gives you storage that would be way better if you never use physical games
Can I get a compilation of all the "ooohh's!!" Lol
I do have a USB-SSD on my XBox Series. It's a Crucial X8 2TB which often did go for like 80 bucks.
That's really helpful.
Thnx 'X-Ray!' very informative n helpful video 🤘🏼
Hes going full analog baby! ..But with a digital stop-watch! LUL
I bought one. Now I have to buy another one for videos. I dont have a computer to reformat the SSD. Didnt know once you format for storage you cant redo the format unless you have a computer. So keep that in mind before you format one.
FULL ANALOG!! You used a digital handheld stopwatch. Should have used a mechanical windup stopwatch. You know the ones that have hands moving around in the dial.
Thanks for detailed comparison. Can you post a link to your TV stand?
I subscribed just off the 80s intro. Solid
Low key, that stop watch is not analog, it’s digital. 🤫
You can have an external SSD. it's going to be much slower transfer speeds / performance than the m.2 style expansion slot, but I think you're throwing around the term SSD too loosely.
The 2TB seagate SSD has faster read/write times then the 1tb version.
I have a complaint right away! A Digitial Stop watch is not going full analog!!!
Most scientific testing ever 😂
They never have those damn Storage cards at my GameStop or Walmart. They should have just released the series s with the 1tb tf!
Amazon
The PS5 doesnt even release with 1tb. Its about the cost me boy.
@@srobeck77 damn not even the ps5 huh rip
I’m waiting for more 2tB option or atleast for the prices to drop really not tryna spend another $280 on just storage 😭but I will if it’s not cheaper within next 3-6 months
Great video thanks for all the informative videos which are also entertaining too however I wish you'd done a reverse test of transferring it back to the xbox
after two years both mine and my sons interal ssd died killing the xbox went to pc so sad hope yalls get a longer life
I know this isnt a great answer, but the og Xbox could only do 8GB, but the Xbox One could accept a 16TB HDD.
SSD tech for consoles is brand new, once they become easier to manufacture the size will go up and the price will go down.
Wrong the original xbox could do up to 500GB but with a few deactivated points activated it's up to 2.2TB this is a FAT32 limitation
@@Hellraiser988 there is absolutely no original Xbox from 2001 that shipped with a 500GB HDD. That would have added thousands of dollars to the price tag of the Xbox at that time, storage like that wasn't cheap at all, and wasn't even necessary in 2001.
@@blackmesacake5361 never said shipped though
@@blackmesacake5361 I'm saying it could be upgraded to support those sizes not that it came with
@@Hellraiser988oh for sure, but the cost to manufacture a leap in storage equivalent to that is not feasible in 2023, so while it's a point, it's moot. I would imagine the XSX will be modded in its own ways down the line, but the cost of making that sort of leap today would be equally cost inefficient.
One is very expensive for this expansion, esp when you see the see the price you would pay for a normal NVME M.2 either 1 or 2 tb, not only that it is very hard to get the 2tb expansion anywhere in Ireland.
5:46 Holding digital stopwatch... Says he going full analog. Uh, no...
I Like That TV Stand Where Did You Get That ???
Thanks for keeping us XBOX Ready with this informative video I was trying to decide which one to get this definitely help a ton appreciate you.
6 gigs per second??? Give me ur wifi plzzz😂
This is transfer speed from console memory to expansion card not downloading speed!
Ray
I bought a Portable 2TB solid State HDD It is a 3.1 plugs in the USB Port in the back on the Series X it's compatible with XlS bought it on amazon $70.
The Seagate drive is nearly flush with the Xbox so there's nothing to see when installed anyway 🤷🏻♂️. Does the WD stick out at all?
I like these type of videos, please make more dude!💖💖👍👍
Who wouldve thought 20 years later xbox would bring back the idea of a memory card. I know people who have multiple with different games and saves downloaded onto em, even has one strictly for game footage and screen shot. They use the ssd that plugs in the like a modernday ps2 memory card
They also have M.2 expansion adapters for the Xbox
What's pretty irritating, is that external HDD do not work, I recently bought one (NOT Knowing of the type of storage the new Xbox consoles use) you cannot play optimized games without having to move them to the console storage (or an expansion card) VERY Disappointed, frankly.
Does anybody know if the Xbox Series S/X will eventually get new Expansion Sizes for storage??
What do you mean by the last sentence
@chriswright8074
Will the Xbox series s/x get any new type of external HDD or larger sized storage cards anytime soon?? I don't mind having to use a card over external storage, but I'd like larger space Than just 2TB, and cheaper as well, $200+ for Just 2TB is kinda ridiculous
@@mikeywilliams4136 it's under 200 if you find a sale I gotten the 1tb under 50 and it's hard to say because last gen Xbox was capped at 2tb but I believe we can request the feature for bigger SSD
@chriswright8074 I had an external HDD for my xb1 that was 3TB, so it wasn't capped. (Assuming that's what you're talking about)
Which one do I have? I have a 2TB Seagate on my XSX and a 1TB Western Digital on my XSS.
I like Seagate best...🤘🏼💯✔️
After a year or so of series x being out u could n u can still buy custom empty storage card casing n then u just needed a ssd to install in it, just ur xbox needed to accept it. To some people it was a cheaper option n for a while was a better option as the segate cards were unable to get hold of due to high demand. Then western digital came out with theirs to provide more options.
I have 2 of the 2tb seagate cards got too many series x games now and seriously moving from one drive to the next without these cards sucks
Non-Seagate drives don't have access to the velocity architecture, so the benefit would be more in ongoing general gameplay, rather than just file transfers.
Wd c50 advertises that it does have velocity
Rubbish...
"velocity architecture" is a marketing buzzword lol
Got 8tb hhd with the series x and the card. So 10tb, but games are going to have to be streamed if they keep going!
is there a 8tb of any kind
Time to time the time it takes to take … data from one place to another 😂
You have to start time when you press start game and see how long until you're in the game.
You have to do it on the internal storage also for a baseline
So the newer cards are faster to d/l and transfer, but same speed on startup 🤔
You should test the 2tb vs 1tb... BC the 2tb is a few Gbps faster
I think some of the copy attempts you show us must be cached by the time you do reruns
A headphone warning would be nice 0:48
This comment popped up under the the video at exactly 0:46 seconds into the video. Sadly I was also killed by my Headphones.☠️⚰️
Don't know how fast the cards are but it takes 15.55 to test 2 cards 😂😂
This dude talks.. F O R E V E R about so much unrelated crap! !! On soooo many videos !!! On and on and wanting to go back in time.. bla bla bla. Dont care about all the other crap. Just get to the point already . Smh.
Back then on the Xbox - Xbox 360 we didn't have to download the games the memories were just for saving game progress
Yeah you forget solid state drives will be fast between SSD to SSD drives now the real speed test is hdd to ssd
8 gigs was fine for the og Xbox
Real question is how do games play because these cards let you play without transfer so what's that even matter how does it affect gameplay and downloads.
There no mention mentioning of 2nd Xbox site of 2nd Xbox series x other than one on market with green light.😊
I feel like the Western Digital wins because it's just a slight bit faster plus it is less money
Ray you left the fact that you could take apart the xbox 360 HDD down the drive itself and use it on the xbox 360 elite slim for extra space instead of buying the expansion drive although I use this method for my set for about a year tell Destinys expansions started to expand gig size. Lol.
My Dad went to a hard drive repair place, said the majority 90% of hdds there were Seagate. They are inferior. I buy everything WD.
I doubt in the real world you will never be able to notice the difference in speed between the 2 drives.
Late to the game, Sega Master System had internal hard drive with Hang On and Snail Maze.