The Chevy volt, and BMW i3 had range extenders. The small displacement engine didn’t hook up to the wheels, but it allowed for energy to be produced and extend the range of the vehicle. This is something that should be offered on most EVs. I think this would help with a Ev adoption, especially rural areas
The Volt’s range extender was fine mostly, but the i3’s was so unreliable and costly to maintain and repair that they ended up dropping the REX version and just selling the i3 as a pure EV for the last few years. People with short commutes also had an issue where the gasoline would spoil in the tank if it wasn’t used after several months. It’s a cool idea but it definitely needs advancement from the 2010s-era
15:25 I think the reality is we're heading towards a future where driving is more and more of a passive experience. There is a safety aspect missing with current cars which rely so heavily on touchscreens for everything and especially the ones which bury things you want to hand in secondary menus. Too many brands have rushed to follow Tesla opposed to question the logic and functionality of their interior designs.
This adds more weight, components and complexity to the whole system, without a big benefit in most cases (from a European viewpoint, distances in the US are far longer). So in general it makes more sense to just put a bigger battery in the vehicle. A range extender EV is just a type of plugin hybrid.
@@blairbrown4812 I mean it’s owned by VW, which has a commercial EV partnership with ford, and Volkswagen entered a software partnership with Rivian, so technically speaking, in a second cousin twice removed kinda way, it definitely could be
The first i3 and the Mazda Mx-30 were electric cars with Range extenders. The BYD shark also works this way. It’s PHEV but with no connection between engine and the wheels. The old Chevy Cruze was pretty much this.
I heard they have plans for a two door truck and a smaller SUV if they succeed with these. I’m routing for them. I’m curious to see the lower trim models as well.
I absolutely love these, I hope they will find their way over the pond. I especially love the front bench, so much nostalgia flowing in, EVs are actually a natural fit for something like this.
Actually, the Yangwang u8 has an ICE for charging the battery. Personally, I don't know if I'm much of a fan, since the infrastructure where I live doesn't require an Ice engine at all, but for people living in the US, this does seem like a really good solution
This is called a series hybrid if I remember correctly. A few cars in early 2010s used them, but they fell out of favor alongside the rest of the hybrid class of powertrains.
Sheer brilliance as a design. It makes the beloved past modern, while giving us actual tactile controls that are instantly familiar and easy to work with while driving. The interior is welcoming and a place one wants to spend time. The exterior speaks for itself... Absolutely stunning. Although the bulk of the driveline is clearly not Rivian, such as live axles and such, I suspect that there is a lot of Rivian DNA involved, and I'd see that as a huge positive. At age 63, I haven't been this excited over a new product offering in decades. As for the range extender, it's exactly what we need gere in the US of A. And built in the USA as well? I predict a huge win here.
been waiting for your review lol the range extender is actually old tech ford is going to add it to the f250 supposedly i am glad they are going to have it in the scout it will make it better for travel and off-roading in my opinion im also glad for the body on frame and that it has mechanical lockers and a solid axel
I love the look of these vehicles and the idea of the range extender. I’ll definitely be keeping my eye on these to see how they perform. Very interesting
Yes! If you’re gonna be a ev pls don’t be a blob. It looks beautiful, hopefully they’ll make a two door convertible version and bring back those classic colors and cool patterned interiors
Diesel locomotives have been diesel electric for 100 years. This is tried and true technology. I think it's about time we heard about something like this on passenger vehicles
I haven't watched your videos in a few months, but I've been around since the beginning of the channel, not used to the no cap and glasses look still lol.
i love modernized 80s and 70s designs with 2030 looks to it.... i love it, there is one concept of the mk3 supra looking insane on the internet, the mercedes restomod, hyundai n74, the ionic 5, the cybertruck they all look great
I wouldn’t say no one has thought about a range extender or REX. The BMW i3 had one as an option years ago. It was a Motorcycle engine coupled to a generator to charge the battery.
Yes, range extenders have been done already…Nissan has a version of one in their Qashquai, called e-Power and Ram will have it with their Ramcharger EV, coming soon, which may have about 690 miles of range.
@@mcsike7264 You can make "American Sedans"... by excluding the D-pillars to many of such SUVs / trucks. Take Ford Explorer (who is also an "Interceptor" in Police version)... and remove its D-pillars. Taa-daa! "American, Jumbo, Big Mac, King-size, Extralarge, Supersized ... Sedan!"
@@RazvanMihaeanu lmao the reason why Americans dont want sedans anymore is bc oems trick em into thinking bigger vehicle is safer or you need a truck for that one time every two years your gonna tow something 😂
Chinese EV companys like Li Auto has been use range extenders for 5 years and they just delivered their 1M vehicles last month. It's a great idea if the battery is big enough for a half week commute and the gas powered extender will cover the long travel over 200 miles.
Gas engines in EVs have been done, just in other countries. Ram has an EV truck coming out soon with a gas engine to charge the battery. I'm no automotive engineer, but I believe its not a bad idea. Because the engine doesn't have to propel the car, I think it can be a simpler, possibly smaller, and more efficient engine, which saves fuel and costs lest to produce. This is in contrast to a plug in hybrid, which requires the engine to be able to propel the car.
They are gorgeous. For range extender in USA makes sense especially if you are towing!! Like I would. But needs a simple motor that maintain rpms and just charges batteries and that's all. As all evs my main concern is the battery replacement really... They need to solve that particular probl m that affects all Evs.
Would love to see more electric motor vehicles with combustion engines driving generators instead of mechanical transmissions - the setup diesel locomotives have used for decades.
The launch timing is interesting. Scout will be coming to market at almost the exact same moment as solid state batteries will be coming to market in competing electric vehicles. For example, Toyota is saying their first solid state electric vehicle will launch in 2027 with a range of 625 miles and a charge time of ten mins. If true, this will be a major problem for Scout (and others).
Firstly, I think the styling on the outside and inside looks excellent. These are some of my favorite designs for an upcoming vehicle. I think the EV versions of these will turn out well. However, I have my doubts on the plug-in hybrid, or "extended range" versions. They're being strangely quiet on what the EV range will be on the model with the gas engine. Historically, EVs with "range extenders" tend to have much smaller batteries and shorter EV range than full EVs. Packaging both an ICEV powertrain and an EV powertrain into a single vehicle is expensive, and usually the first thing to get the chopping block is the battery. This is why I think you don't see this type of vehicle often, because a lot has to be sacrificed to make it work, which often results in a car that's expensive and poor performing compared to its full EV counterpart. Some of the most notable PHEVs/EREVs are the BMW i3 REx, Chevrolet Volt, Honda Clarity PHEV, and the Fisker Karma. None sold particularly well and all were eventually cancelled. It seems the only successful one (at least in the US) has been the Jeep Wrangler 4xe. I'm not against the tech, I just haven't been especially impressed with any so far, but I'll see if that changes with the extended range versions of these vehicles, and to a similar extent, the Ram Ramcharger.
The Chevy volt, and BMW i3 had range extenders. The small displacement engine didn’t hook up to the wheels, but it allowed for energy to be produced and extend the range of the vehicle. This is something that should be offered on most EVs. I think this would help with a Ev adoption, especially rural areas
The Volt’s range extender was fine mostly, but the i3’s was so unreliable and costly to maintain and repair that they ended up dropping the REX version and just selling the i3 as a pure EV for the last few years. People with short commutes also had an issue where the gasoline would spoil in the tank if it wasn’t used after several months. It’s a cool idea but it definitely needs advancement from the 2010s-era
correct
15:25 I think the reality is we're heading towards a future where driving is more and more of a passive experience.
There is a safety aspect missing with current cars which rely so heavily on touchscreens for everything and especially the ones which bury things you want to hand in secondary menus.
Too many brands have rushed to follow Tesla opposed to question the logic and functionality of their interior designs.
This adds more weight, components and complexity to the whole system, without a big benefit in most cases (from a European viewpoint, distances in the US are far longer). So in general it makes more sense to just put a bigger battery in the vehicle. A range extender EV is just a type of plugin hybrid.
BYD Shark has a range extender
Looks like if you combine a Rivian with a Bronco.
exactly
I literally thought Rivian was doing a refresh before I read the title
Maybe Scout is co-owned by Rivian and Ford
I think you’re right
@@blairbrown4812 I mean it’s owned by VW, which has a commercial EV partnership with ford, and Volkswagen entered a software partnership with Rivian, so technically speaking, in a second cousin twice removed kinda way, it definitely could be
The first i3 and the Mazda Mx-30 were electric cars with Range extenders. The BYD shark also works this way. It’s PHEV but with no connection between engine and the wheels. The old Chevy Cruze was pretty much this.
Don't you mean the Chevy Volt?
*Chevy Volt
So does Nissan's E-Power system
Ram also announced a range extended ev truck recently.
@@a-dino I thought about that one but there’s no cord to plug in so it’s basically a kooky series hybrid like a Prius but different
This looks so good and the interior is excellent as well. This is how modern EVs should be designed like
This thing looks PHENOMENAL.
Agreed.
The BMW i3 had a 2cyl. range extender.
My first impressions are cowboy vibes for some reason. Never underestimate a first impression. I really like this design.
It looks a lot to me like an F100 from the 70s
I heard they have plans for a two door truck and a smaller SUV if they succeed with these. I’m routing for them. I’m curious to see the lower trim models as well.
I'd rather like if they made a proper 7/8 seater SUV
I absolutely love these, I hope they will find their way over the pond. I especially love the front bench, so much nostalgia flowing in, EVs are actually a natural fit for something like this.
Actually, the Yangwang u8 has an ICE for charging the battery. Personally, I don't know if I'm much of a fan, since the infrastructure where I live doesn't require an Ice engine at all, but for people living in the US, this does seem like a really good solution
The best US design for a long time. Range extenders are already available in some other cars too.
Love to see wood, dials, knobs and integrated screens...
I really like the design. I think the SUV looks way better than the truck and it kinda looks like an electric bronco. The interior is amazing
BMW i3 has a range extender option. Upcoming Ram 1500 Ramcharger will also have a range extender.
My man, the extended range technology has existes in china for at least 8 years.
No kidding. Also wasn’t there a Ram truck that was supposed to have it?
It was in the bmw i3 for a decade too. Stop glazing west Taiwan
This is why he does not read/respond to comments. 😂
@@h20dancing18boohoo if you guys can add negative comment on Chinese cars learn to take the same comments...
And the volt had a Rex when the i3 was still on the drawing board.
It’s so beautifully designed
A range extender has been used in multiple EVs at this point
Car companies do have to use the interior of these scout cars as a massive inspiration for their car interiors
This track is well designed, you can tell they did not compromise, i think this track represents the True American tracks, love it, my Number 1 track.
Yeah, they look awesome to me. That Gas engine might be like the new Civic, where it runs the generator the charges the battery.
the interior looks so nice
Best looking EVs BY FAR
This is called a series hybrid if I remember correctly. A few cars in early 2010s used them, but they fell out of favor alongside the rest of the hybrid class of powertrains.
Masterful design. Pray they follow everything through to production ❤
Yes, this is just perfect design, simle, elegant, fantastic!
The fisher karma had the EVER system before this, same with the i3, and multiple plug in hybrids.
*Fisker* ...
Sheer brilliance as a design. It makes the beloved past modern, while giving us actual tactile controls that are instantly familiar and easy to work with while driving. The interior is welcoming and a place one wants to spend time. The exterior speaks for itself... Absolutely stunning. Although the bulk of the driveline is clearly not Rivian, such as live axles and such, I suspect that there is a lot of Rivian DNA involved, and I'd see that as a huge positive. At age 63, I haven't been this excited over a new product offering in decades. As for the range extender, it's exactly what we need gere in the US of A. And built in the USA as well? I predict a huge win here.
been waiting for your review lol
the range extender is actually old tech ford is going to add it to the f250 supposedly
i am glad they are going to have it in the scout it will make it better for travel and off-roading in my opinion
im also glad for the body on frame and that it has mechanical lockers and a solid axel
I love the look of these vehicles and the idea of the range extender. I’ll definitely be keeping my eye on these to see how they perform. Very interesting
It feels very Rivian, which makes sense I guess since Rivian’s designs also feel very informed by old Scout and Bronco designs.
Scout and Rivian look more contemporary where other manufacturers are designing for 2008 UA-cam future vision videos (BMW)
Rivian partnered with VW. VW owns SCOUT.
This is also bigger then the Rivian.
They have. Toyota and Honda are developing EREV technology. Small gas generators that will produce electricity.
Yes! If you’re gonna be a ev pls don’t be a blob. It looks beautiful, hopefully they’ll make a two door convertible version and bring back those classic colors and cool patterned interiors
Ram announced months ago the gas motor as a generator with their upcoming Charger model
The specs on it are sick too
Diesel locomotives have been diesel electric for 100 years. This is tried and true technology. I think it's about time we heard about something like this on passenger vehicles
even the microphone is excited
Wow, dude, this is my favorite new car. They got to have it priced right to sell
Actually range extender EVs are biggest growing trend in some markets right now....
im not an suv / truck kinda guy, but ngl this looks absolutely amazing, great job !
8:12 reminds me of 1990s Tahoes
I cant believe they didnt go with a design like this when bronco came out...
Great looking new vehicle. Fits 35’s too. Excellent job VW.
Problem with those range extenders is usually the packaging and the extra weight you always carry around with it
I haven't watched your videos in a few months, but I've been around since the beginning of the channel, not used to the no cap and glasses look still lol.
It’s kinda like a cleaner hybrid, instead of engine based electric assistance, it’s electric based engine assistance.
VW has a stake in Rivian, VW owns the Scout brand, coincidence? We're heading towards brand singularity...
i love modernized 80s and 70s designs with 2030 looks to it.... i love it, there is one concept of the mk3 supra looking insane on the internet, the mercedes restomod, hyundai n74, the ionic 5, the cybertruck they all look great
except the cybertruck
How did you possibly fit Cybertruck into that list?
I wouldn’t say no one has thought about a range extender or REX. The BMW i3 had one as an option years ago. It was a Motorcycle engine coupled to a generator to charge the battery.
Reminds me of Bronco and that's a great looking car.
The Suv would look perfect next to a challenger in the same colour 👌😌
The 2025 Ramcharger is the same thing and is about to go on sale in a few months...
This looks sick! Since Scout Motors is owned by VW, I think this looks promising for both Rivian and VW!
Yes, range extenders have been done already…Nissan has a version of one in their Qashquai, called e-Power and Ram will have it with their Ramcharger EV, coming soon, which may have about 690 miles of range.
Make it.. a Sedan!
Come on, TSM ! (TheSedanMafia = TheSketchMonkey)
Usa don't want sedans they want trucks and suvs the numbers speak for themselves
@@mcsike7264 You can make "American Sedans"... by excluding the D-pillars to many of such SUVs / trucks.
Take Ford Explorer (who is also an "Interceptor" in Police version)... and remove its D-pillars.
Taa-daa!
"American, Jumbo, Big Mac, King-size, Extralarge, Supersized ... Sedan!"
@@RazvanMihaeanu lmao the reason why Americans dont want sedans anymore is bc oems trick em into thinking bigger vehicle is safer or you need a truck for that one time every two years your gonna tow something 😂
The new ram 1500 and the old BMW i3 got a range extender
They look better than the ultra complex transformer-esque styling that the Colorado and Tacoma embodies.
So a Rivian with a different name. Got it.
Is this an electric Chinese truck underneath ???
Like Great Wall perhaps?
The Scout vehicles use a standalone platform, developed with a partnership with VW. Afaik no Chinese connection
Hopefully it is narrow enough to run 4wd trails. And I would love a 2 door 4wd pickup with a 6.5 foot bed.
You nailed on the knob issue. I was considering a GMC Canyon until they removed a headlight control switch. wtf?
I really want this to be a success from Ford. Looks great. It's an innovative idea. If Scout is reliable, it's going to be great
I think at least offering an option of mechanical speedometer gauge would also go a long way.
Love the Traveler I just wish the doors came off! That’s the best part a Jeep! Already reserved a Traveler Harvester.
thank god for those physical door handles, dude. So happy the pendulum is swinging back on that tucked in techy bullshit
Looks really nice! 👍🏼
It’s a hybrid. Lots of manufacturers do this. BMW has range extender cars too.
Honestly hope that Scout does well, I’m not expecting tesla like sales but atleast the second best
look at front end of 1980 I owned one for over 25 years and the scout was replaced by international on my 80 but in same spot
The range extender gas generator has been done. The Chevy Volt from over 10 years ago.
ev with a gas tank
how do you like your bbq sir? well done, please
Wow, take my money please.
Chinese EV companys like Li Auto has been use range extenders for 5 years and they just delivered their 1M vehicles last month. It's a great idea if the battery is big enough for a half week commute and the gas powered extender will cover the long travel over 200 miles.
The BMW i3 literally offered a model called Range Extender with a tiny motorcycle engine.
Love it! I'll be waiting to get one!
Nissan did it since 2016 with their e-Power platform
An EV with a range extender is not an EV but a HYBRID.
1:27 We have it actually the Nissan Kicks
Why does it remind me of a ford bronco 0:29 🤨 0:47
It was the Branco’s predecessor, I believe Ford borrowed the design and built the Bronco which ended up being far more successful. As you know.
Chevy volt (car engine), bmw i3 (motorcycle engine), and mazda mx-30 (rotory engine) were/are ev's built with gas electric generators/extenders.
we've reached a time where door handles are advertised as features
Gas engines in EVs have been done, just in other countries. Ram has an EV truck coming out soon with a gas engine to charge the battery. I'm no automotive engineer, but I believe its not a bad idea. Because the engine doesn't have to propel the car, I think it can be a simpler, possibly smaller, and more efficient engine, which saves fuel and costs lest to produce. This is in contrast to a plug in hybrid, which requires the engine to be able to propel the car.
Ever heard of the fisker karma?
They are gorgeous.
For range extender in USA makes sense especially if you are towing!! Like I would. But needs a simple motor that maintain rpms and just charges batteries and that's all.
As all evs my main concern is the battery replacement really...
They need to solve that particular probl m that affects all Evs.
Would love to see more electric motor vehicles with combustion engines driving generators instead of mechanical transmissions - the setup diesel locomotives have used for decades.
mic got excited too
Beautiful trucks
Here’s to hoping they make a hatchback or sedan…I love what they’re going for but will never buy an SUV or Truck.
The launch timing is interesting. Scout will be coming to market at almost the exact same moment as solid state batteries will be coming to market in competing electric vehicles. For example, Toyota is saying their first solid state electric vehicle will launch in 2027 with a range of 625 miles and a charge time of ten mins. If true, this will be a major problem for Scout (and others).
Would like one, but I’m 77! I don’t even buy green bananas.
They got everything right except the powertrain.
like the wagon /s.u.v. model with its short wheel base over the ute please no 3rd row and more utility with plugs ins for our camping kit
2-door car missing
The nissan x trail e power has a similar thing to the range extender but as a hybrid. Its quite confusing lol
They need to release a gas hybrid. I'd buy one. Electric - no thanks. Maybe in 5+ years.
Also, optional third row.
Firstly, I think the styling on the outside and inside looks excellent. These are some of my favorite designs for an upcoming vehicle. I think the EV versions of these will turn out well.
However, I have my doubts on the plug-in hybrid, or "extended range" versions. They're being strangely quiet on what the EV range will be on the model with the gas engine. Historically, EVs with "range extenders" tend to have much smaller batteries and shorter EV range than full EVs. Packaging both an ICEV powertrain and an EV powertrain into a single vehicle is expensive, and usually the first thing to get the chopping block is the battery. This is why I think you don't see this type of vehicle often, because a lot has to be sacrificed to make it work, which often results in a car that's expensive and poor performing compared to its full EV counterpart. Some of the most notable PHEVs/EREVs are the BMW i3 REx, Chevrolet Volt, Honda Clarity PHEV, and the Fisker Karma. None sold particularly well and all were eventually cancelled. It seems the only successful one (at least in the US) has been the Jeep Wrangler 4xe.
I'm not against the tech, I just haven't been especially impressed with any so far, but I'll see if that changes with the extended range versions of these vehicles, and to a similar extent, the Ram Ramcharger.
The new Ram charger already announced it has a generator like this.
I am curious if they are still using the EA211 1.4/1.5 Turbo for range extender
Opel Ampera had range extender
Actually BMW i3 did this before .. i8 as well if I am not mistaken
When will they be available for purchase ???
Okay I don't know where they come from but this looks good as fck
Gorgeous.