The only thing you should have to service is the gasoline powered generator. There isn't really anything beyond brakes and tires to repair in an EV, which is kinda the point. Repairs are a bug, not a feature.
@@Trashed20659 Literally everything else on a car(outside of the engine}, suspension, bearings, cooling system etc... can and will need to be replaced at some point in the vehicles life. Do you think EV manufacturers don't have repair centers?
@@hamsterbrigade Actually, when a system is electrified, the maintenance becomes less. The mechanical aspect of things is what breaks most often. The fewer the moving parts, the less failure. I don't doubt there will be a need for service, just not as much of it.
I am sold on this truck. Front bench seats, body on frame construction, solid rear axle, disconnecting sway bar, harvester range extender, 10k towing capacity and classic American design with the legacy of Intl Scout. If pricing is still around 60k in 2-3 years as promised, this will be in my driveway. Bonus: 80% self serviceable components.
I'm thinking 🤔 they're going to need to speed up and get production out sooner to keep ramcharger and jeep from getting out ahead. They should make the straight ev a secondary product. Ram already pushed the Rev to the back of the line because demand is 80% to 20% in favor of the series range extender!
It is not though. It is backed by VW group, but designed and produced in the US. the reveal event goes over this in detail. They were a startup company that received funding. VW has nothing like this @rogerrussell9544
@@rogerrussell9544 Right, I do as I owned one for 11 years and believe me, that range extender ability of the Volt really worked as we always considered it an EV first but without range anxiety. Took it on several multi day trips using gas only; while at home only used battery. It eased my way into the EV world when I realized that even with a lousy 40 mile battery range of my Volt, I still relied on the battery for 95% of our driving. I now have a full EV in the Mustang Mach E but I did put a deposit down on a Traveler with Range Extender knowing that most would want this to ease their way into the EV world so figured it would help with resale. But yeah, more EVs should be adding gas range extender tech to their EV lineups as an option. I am not sure why Chevy went away from it as it would have been a great idea for their EV Blazer/Hummer/etc. It seems like EV sales are down recently since most that were not scared to buy one (like myself), already have. Its going to take something like Range Extender options to get the rest of the masses into trying an EV. In a sense, that is exactly why I was okay getting my latest one too!
Great overview and comparisons, thanks. I think the Scout, particularly the Traveler, looks terrific. I put a deposit down but who knows by 2027/2028. Still, with that Harvester gas extender and gorgeous design, I'm on board.
Красивые машины снаружи и внутри. Прекрасно, что есть много кнопок. Хорошая заявка на успех. Впрочем, китайские автопроизводители уже массово производят подобные внедорожные последовательные гибриды: BYD Leopard 5 и 8, Yangwang U8, M-hero 917 и множество других моделей. У них роскошные салоны, множество передовых систем и очень серьезная начинка. Впрочем, до американских потребителей эта техника может просто не доехать из-за таможенных пошлин и заградительных санкций.
@@marceinthemountains yeah tesla truck was also direct to consumer and supposed to 'start' at $39.9K.. ..and this has a 2027 release date, so it'll probably get released in 2030.. by 2030 Im pretty sure a toyota corolla will be 100k so this will probalby be a billon dollars
Probably most if not all people will go for the Harvester extended range... Because I mean, you can rely solely on the battery for the daily driver, specially for those daily drives less than 62 miles (or a hundred kilometers). And for the longer trips, just fill it with gasoline, and you're set to go. And unlike purely electric cars, nobody stops you from bringing one or two 20 liters cans for extra gasoline for even longer trips.
Love the older Scout and it sure looks like they put a lot of thought into the styling and usefulness of this new one.. hope it hits the ground running ! Not giving up my 4Runner too soon but hey maybe someday !
@@levyoliver5363 I do too..but i only want one 4x4. i'm too busy to maintain more than one. edit.. and i am not wanting an electric only vehicle but the scout sure is cool looking anyway !
I wonder if there's an option to make the spare tire rack detachable from the rear, because where I live, parking gets tight and the spots are quite short. Most of the times, I wouldn't want to the spare tired attached to the rear unless I go on long road/overlanding trips
Scout with range extender looks good. What I'm wondering is since they're hush on the type of range extender if they're working on one of the free piston generator motors? That would keep weight and space to a minimum.
1st of all, I love this idea! I'm just afraid this will be the VW Buzz all over again. 300 miles range seems adequate now, but by the time this comes out, it'll be too little too late. What if other EVs have 600+miles range by 2027-28 without the need of two power sources? Then this thing is a bust...
The new car/truck market is dead. There is simply no way in hell that the vast majority of us will ever pay these prices for transportation. Until they get a good selection in the low $20k's they will continue to sink.
If Stellantis can get its act together and price Jeep Wranglers below 40k, where it SHOULD be, it would leave the competition in the dust! I hear that might just happen since dealerships can't sell them at 60,70, 80k. A year-end blowout sale is about to happen. It's going to be a buyers market! Finally.
Who doesn't love the retro look of a Scout? It looks like a Rivian that decided not to be ugly. However, VW builds design obsolescence vehicles destined for the scrap yard. Replace over repair comes too quickly. Unfortunately, you won't see your neighbor working on one of these in the garage. This is not the Scout that your grandpa took hunting and fishing.
You're in luck. Rivian and VW signed a 5 billion deal. Rivian will have a hell of a lot to do with this in the end. And when you buy one, I bet you'll end up at Rivian center to pick it up.
In my past I have owned three Scout II and they were awesome when it came to off road. I am glad to see the name but sad that it is not a US brand. I am concerned about the batteries and water. Only time will tell.
@@arcostonian Thank you for the information. I did not know any of that. This is the first I had heard of this come back and seeing the VW name tied to the brand. It will be interesting to see how the new trucks do. Hopefully they won't rust as bad as the originals.
@@dnvm84 Yep, to be built down the road from me In Blythewood, SC. Supposedly will have 4000 jobs when all gets going. VW bought the name out in an earlier deal but is keeping it as a separate company based here in US. I think the design team is in Michigan for example.
Good idea with the generators.. can they be used the entire life of the car?, or were they ment to be a 'backup' for when you cant charge at home..? Either way it'll be good for off-roading trips, just carry extra jerry cans of gas like you would with any other ICE off-roader.. (but 2027 release date with a 50k starting price, come on, tesla truck was also supposed to start at 39k and we all know how that turned out.. I'll be amazed if it comes out before 2030 and you can get a dual generator one for under six figures)..
@chadbrinkley6358 yes indeed, old heavy-duty mechanical engineering involved, along with strong electric motors and utility of big battery with high-power outlets for camping. Strong and quiet.
Technically it is a hybrid with range extender option, but actually better than most hybrids (like the Prius types) as it could still be fully EV if you never exceed its battery range. So best of both worlds.
@@panzer948 I don’t want to rely on charging stations with continued increased cost, blackouts and wait time as primary source of power. I also don’t want to spend $60k plus to only then have to build a power plant at my home.
@RedDevilDog1207 well get this and only use gas to power it. That is what the range extender offers. Just, like our volt, if you only wanted to use gas it will allow that... albeit the gas tank capacity will be smaller than typical trucks. Then, over time, you will realize that charging at home while you sleep and never stopping at a gas station for pricey oil to feed terrorists every few days is actually a plus... heck buying an EV should be the most patriotic thing one could do since it uses 100% home grown energy.
@RedDevilDog1207 yep exactly. If you just think about it, it all makes sense! I work at a power plant and drive an American EV! So I'm about as patriotic as it gets! Didnt you ponder as a kid about the future? Jetsons and their flying cars? No we are not there yet cause we can't even get past using Dino DNA. Heck in 1890 most people wanted to continue to use horse and buggies. I want humans to advance not stand still. We each can do our part! 😀
As both a Jeep (CJ5) and new Bronco owner, I too wish for this and based on what I have seen, it will indeed. Besides, if enough of these sale there will be 3rd party companies popping up everywhere to sale aftermarket parts.
Reservation placed Terra Electric + Gas, but will cancel my reservation if Ford comes out with a Bronco Truck. I love my bronco but miss not having a truck bed.
Correction: The LC250 is only available with the turbo 2.8 inline 4 cylinder (hybrid) engine in the USA. Thus, it has less HP/Torque than stated. It is unfortunate that the Scout isn’t a true hybrid. VW, from what I understand, isn’t going to make solely powered gas powered vehicles in the immediate future.
Don't know why more hybrids don't use this setup. Let the gas engine run at it's peak efficiency rpm continuously. That way you get the most out of the gas, and the longest life out of the engine. Start stop systems on combustion engine vehicles are the dumbest thing ever. The engine never warms up, contaminating the oil, and you keep using it in rpms it doesn't like. You'd be lucky to get 90k miles out them. My Acura has 164k and I expect it do another 100k more.
Volkswagen enthusiast here. While I can appreciate the effort from Volkswagen in the end it’s Electric, and has its limitations. As a Touareg 05 4.2 V8 original owner Volkswagen needs to bring back the Touareg to the North American Market. A Diesel option or 6 cylinder hybrid would satisfy the Flagship market in North American not an Electric Vehicle.
love the Traveler but don't need all that space. make a 2 door version about 8-10k cheaper that's still eligible for the tax credit and I'll gladly buy
What happens if you puncture a gas tank and a hot exhaust burns down the forest..? you dont even need the tank to puncture, hot exhausts alone start multiple fires a year.. I'm pretty sure the random person 'puncturing' their offroad EV and starting a fire will be WAY less than the random douchebag without a spark arrester
Too expensive, too late, nothing new here. Just another techy click bite that’s way over engineered. VW should have put a 4 cylinder engine and 3 speed manual transmission. Something anyone could afford. They will sit on the lots just like the Bronco, and grand Wagoneer.
Two things here: 1. these are going to be huge. Slightly smaller than the Hummer EV. 2. Most modern large EVs are body on frame; its the easiest way to fit battery packs into the structure. Rivian is a body on frame with Unibody elements for example
Its better, but evs are not feasible unless we're going to mine other planets anytime soon. What part of "open pit mine" and "slave labor" don't people understand?
@@jamesmcfarlane5818 It's actually not funny. We overthrow foreign governments and have them go to war to make rebuilding seem like a gift. In North Coralina you can see how the dams were let loose right before the hurricane when they could have stored a lot more, just to flood out the region and so the local mining company can capitalize on one our nation's largest lithium deposits. You could look up the company, the stakeholders, and who they happened to be married too. I'm not going to tell you anything, so you HAVE to look it up just to figure out wtf I'm talking about.
I really believe this is a good thing depending on the battery that is in the vehicle, and that is why Toyota CEO said EVs are failures and the world will never be just EV. The Toyota CEO was referring to the Lithium battery. I am not sure people remember or are aware of what the Obama administration did (being Obama did.) Obama placed restriction on how EVs and Hybrids were able to be used in the USA. VW came out with a 2 cylinder diesel engine to charge a battery and would travel 207 mile on a gallon of fuel. One gallon. In the USA it would go approximately 198 miles on a gallon of fuel. Obama said if you build a Hybrid as a charging only, then you could only have one gallon of fuel to use no matter if it was gasoline or diesel. Well, we don't want EVs due to numerous things, but range is a big reason before charging for a large amount of time. I am not sure what happened, but right now there are Manufactures building vehicles with a charging engine generator and not to put the vehicle in motion. Good! The good is due to hydrogen fuel or even ammonia fuel will be the future and neither of the two we use now and are zero emission. That pisses off the Swamp in office now, because their money tree will die. It isn't just the Democrats, but mostly are. It is Republicans also and some are not in office now. Obama and Biden are two in the mix and we know Biden was due to the info that has come to light. Just think what we don't know.
Modern hi tec??....I thought the whole idea was to keep them simple and make them affordable? ...they should not /can notcompete with other similar products...but they could if the price was kept low and maintenance simple.
Those Land Cruiser numbers are completely wrong. It looks like someone mixed up the specs with a GX550. A new land cruiser definitely doesn't tow 8100 pounds.
It will be a another symbol/status car like a tesla or cyber truck. EV everything is not the best way forward right now. Should've done hybrid or a good 4 cylinder. Sucks these price tags will be jacked up too
We need 'cheaper' options, not many people can drop six figures on a car.. .. but lucky for you, these companies always lie about numbers. Tesla Truck was supposed to start at $39K remember..? ..and dont worry, the one you'd want, aka the Dual-Generator 'Off-Road' model will be a six figure vehicle for sure.. so good for you if you want to spend house money on a car, but its bad for the rest of us who want cars, but those six figures would be better spent towards a house, or feeding a family for a few months.
Wait a min. The Rivian doesn't have mechanical front and rear differentials or sway bar disconnect like the Bronco, Jeeps, and planned Scout so no way it would excel offroad. In most tests the Rivian doesn't do as well as the Jeep/Bronco so how could it be better than the Scout at offroad prownessnes since the Scout seems to be designed with more of the pure offroad specs of Jeep/Bronco.
While hybrids are unsettling, full ev's are terrifying to own. Vehicles are way too expensive to buy and reliability from all manufacturers, which has been in downward death spiral. Batteries for both hybrids and ev's are so expensive to replace, and if the vehicle is in a minor accident, chances are the insurance company will total it. The majority of hard-working Americans can not afford such vehicles to support families. Too much risk and expense.
so much misinformation here that I don't know where to begin. Sadly, you are drinking the negative Kool-Aid and not looking at the full picture. As an owner of either a Hybrid or full EV for the past 23 years, I am speaking from experience in knowing both pros and cons and believe me, the pros far outweigh the cons. Don't be scared and just go buy one yourself to find out the truth. Why are so many people scared of progress or change is beyond me. Folks like you back in 1890 would still be fighting for the horse and buggy... Now that is funny.
@elefterioskoukoulis7612 exactly what VW parts? only a few generic parts will be used in both VW and Scouts, that most consumers will never see or touch.... (FWIW Tesla wants other automakers to adopt its 48V architecture to reduce the net cost of production for those generic parts, it doesn't make them Tesla parts) And it's hard to see how Scout will fit any existing VW engine in such a flat tight space, where they stated they are planning on putting it .... @avery3991 Scout does have some former Volkswagen executives.... But the current EV architecture VW / Rivian Partnership.... Means there's a good chance Scouts will feel more like a Rivian, than a Volkswagen...
Bringing back the iconic Scout brand is brilliant, making them EVs is just stupid. They're dead in the water unless they make gas- or diesel-engined models. I would never take an EV off-road, their range is too limited with no hope for refueling. The new "bronco" has been another ill-conceived attempt at cashing in on an iconic SUV. Looks similar to a proven winner but, like Jeeps, they are junk. I'll keep my 60 year old Scout because I can strap on a 5-gallon gas can and get home, it only requires a very basic set of SAE tools to work on almost everything - and it keeps appreciating in value.
pure ev dogcrap, first deep water this goes through its done. And what are you actually going to scout? the nearest charging station? Going to be a bunch of pavement queens. What will the winch mount to? beautiful truck but should've offered a all gas option along with the ev and hybrid. Also dreaming if you'll touch this for under 70k and it'll sink like a rock in the mud, has to be heavy when all electric. Im betting it will fail
Thanks to Volkswagen scout is back, but now Volkswagen is going down so scout will fade back into history again. Parts are hard to get and the price before dealer bs is 65 grand, goodbye scout 😂
@ Due to franchise laws, direct to consumer won’t happen. They know that, thats why they partnered with VW. But if that was the case, they should partner with Amazon 😂
The reason most automakers are going under they're trying to convert to electric vehicles but most of America doesn't want an electric vehicle this is why they're not selling
well most Americans could ease their way into EVs if they bought one with range extender options like Scout is offering. That is essentially what I did back in 2011 with the first year model Chevy Volt. I later replaced it 11 years later with a full EV after I realized that 99% of our driving was with a battery (and that is on a vehicle with only 40 mile range...).
Bet they don't fare very well in a German winter either unless you live in a city and keep it in a heated garage. Oh wait, Germans can't heat anything because they cuddled up to Pootie! 🤣🤣
actually, the fact that this has an option for a range extender automatically makes it a special class beyond the standard EV and yes that includes all Tesla models. Its an EV first with the option to use gas. Should help win over many that are still nervous about changing technology. More EV manufactures should have this as an option.
big thing you missed is scout says these have 80% user serviceable parts, so you can work on it in your driveway.
The only thing you should have to service is the gasoline powered generator. There isn't really anything beyond brakes and tires to repair in an EV, which is kinda the point. Repairs are a bug, not a feature.
best feature, this commitment and promise. hoping for Wrangler-like variety of third-party add-ons and interfacing to electrical system, too.
@@Trashed20659 Literally everything else on a car(outside of the engine}, suspension, bearings, cooling system etc... can and will need to be replaced at some point in the vehicles life. Do you think EV manufacturers don't have repair centers?
@@hamsterbrigade Actually, when a system is electrified, the maintenance becomes less. The mechanical aspect of things is what breaks most often. The fewer the moving parts, the less failure. I don't doubt there will be a need for service, just not as much of it.
really working on your high voltage battery pack and mc/inverter.
I am sold on this truck. Front bench seats, body on frame construction, solid rear axle, disconnecting sway bar, harvester range extender, 10k towing capacity and classic American design with the legacy of Intl Scout. If pricing is still around 60k in 2-3 years as promised, this will be in my driveway. Bonus: 80% self serviceable components.
Would love to get one, but 3 years? I’m 77. I don’t even buy green bananas!
Live long!
I'm thinking 🤔 they're going to need to speed up and get production out sooner to keep ramcharger and jeep from getting out ahead. They should make the straight ev a secondary product. Ram already pushed the Rev to the back of the line because demand is 80% to 20% in favor of the series range extender!
Good one 😂.
Without the Scout, there would not have been a Bronco OR Blazer.
😂
Or even a Ram Charger. 😂
Doesn’t matter. Fact is these new scouts are exact replicas of Rivian truck and SUVs
@@tetchuma I'm glad the Scout had been made.
@@zandercerlong9693Do you need glasses? They are made quite differently and the front is definitely different.
I placed the $100 deposit the same day I heard about it. Hopefully, the infrastructure catches up a bit by 2027. Looks great!
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I did too! 😊 For the range extender.
Don’t trust the charging infrastructure being there yet.
Got the range extender for mine!
On paper these things sound great. And the design is beautiful. I just wish we didn't have to wait 3 years to see them. I'm all in.
You realize this is a VW?
It is not though. It is backed by VW group, but designed and produced in the US. the reveal event goes over this in detail. They were a startup company that received funding. VW has nothing like this @rogerrussell9544
@@rogerrussell9544not even close!
Volks Wagen Scout Terra and Traveler. So my favorite model would be VW's Scout! 😅😂
@levyoliver5363 they are located in SC, they plan to source local workers and materials. The made it clear that VW is only a financial backer.
Love the brown leather against the touch screen, perfect of old and new.
The scene where the guy is pulling the stainless trim off the Cybertruck that was adhered with a caulking gun is priceless. 🤣
This is actually the first EV I would consider owning props to them for developing the range extender before the big 3 domestic kings
Remember the Chevy Volt?
@@rogerrussell9544 Right, I do as I owned one for 11 years and believe me, that range extender ability of the Volt really worked as we always considered it an EV first but without range anxiety. Took it on several multi day trips using gas only; while at home only used battery. It eased my way into the EV world when I realized that even with a lousy 40 mile battery range of my Volt, I still relied on the battery for 95% of our driving. I now have a full EV in the Mustang Mach E but I did put a deposit down on a Traveler with Range Extender knowing that most would want this to ease their way into the EV world so figured it would help with resale. But yeah, more EVs should be adding gas range extender tech to their EV lineups as an option. I am not sure why Chevy went away from it as it would have been a great idea for their EV Blazer/Hummer/etc. It seems like EV sales are down recently since most that were not scared to buy one (like myself), already have. Its going to take something like Range Extender options to get the rest of the masses into trying an EV. In a sense, that is exactly why I was okay getting my latest one too!
@@rogerrussell9544 I owned 2 volts, best powertrain ever
Absolutely nailed it
Great overview and comparisons, thanks. I think the Scout, particularly the Traveler, looks terrific. I put a deposit down but who knows by 2027/2028. Still, with that Harvester gas extender and gorgeous design, I'm on board.
So start at under 60k. Will end up like 85k just like every other model.
Rivian was supposed to be affordable as well to the average person lol
Красивые машины снаружи и внутри. Прекрасно, что есть много кнопок. Хорошая заявка на успех. Впрочем, китайские автопроизводители уже массово производят подобные внедорожные последовательные гибриды: BYD Leopard 5 и 8, Yangwang U8, M-hero 917 и множество других моделей. У них роскошные салоны, множество передовых систем и очень серьезная начинка. Впрочем, до американских потребителей эта техника может просто не доехать из-за таможенных пошлин и заградительных санкций.
Don't kid yourself this thing will be $100K+ before it reaches your hands.
Hopefully not, they are saying it will be direct to consumer, so hopefully no insane dealer markups. Time will tell.
@@marceinthemountains yeah tesla truck was also direct to consumer and supposed to 'start' at $39.9K..
..and this has a 2027 release date, so it'll probably get released in 2030.. by 2030 Im pretty sure a toyota corolla will be 100k so this will probalby be a billon dollars
Pulled a muscle reading this stretch
@@rogerwilco1777 Ha, you're probably right, sadly. Six figures on a depreciating asset is just... no.
You work in the accounting department for Scout?
Probably most if not all people will go for the Harvester extended range... Because I mean, you can rely solely on the battery for the daily driver, specially for those daily drives less than 62 miles (or a hundred kilometers). And for the longer trips, just fill it with gasoline, and you're set to go. And unlike purely electric cars, nobody stops you from bringing one or two 20 liters cans for extra gasoline for even longer trips.
Love the older Scout and it sure looks like they put a lot of thought into the styling and usefulness of this new one.. hope it hits the ground running ! Not giving up my 4Runner too soon but hey maybe someday !
@@g.fortin3228 No. I have my very own house and lot, i'd keep both the 4Runner and the Scout forever.
@@levyoliver5363 I do too..but i only want one 4x4. i'm too busy to maintain more than one. edit.. and i am not wanting an electric only vehicle but the scout sure is cool looking anyway !
I have a 79 SS two. I will keep my big gas guzzling V8 y’all can have the hybrid.
Same here. '78 Traveltop for me.
Already have a deposit down. Can't wait!
I wonder if there's an option to make the spare tire rack detachable from the rear, because where I live, parking gets tight and the spots are quite short. Most of the times, I wouldn't want to the spare tired attached to the rear unless I go on long road/overlanding trips
So, can you just fill it up and keep moving or do you have to plug in?
Scout with range extender looks good. What I'm wondering is since they're hush on the type of range extender if they're working on one of the free piston generator motors? That would keep weight and space to a minimum.
These EVs with range extender sounds good, like these Scouts and the new Ram pickup. Might be the only EVs I'm interested in
Same.
the range extender will be the best option if they have at least 80 electric miles range
Bring it on, ASAP, with Harvester range extender engine, like Ramcharger.
I know VW will never do a v8 but I’d love to have either of these if they offered an inline 6
Great insight bro. I got my deposit in. 😊
1st of all, I love this idea!
I'm just afraid this will be the VW Buzz all over again. 300 miles range seems adequate now, but by the time this comes out, it'll be too little too late.
What if other EVs have 600+miles range by 2027-28 without the need of two power sources? Then this thing is a bust...
The new car/truck market is dead. There is simply no way in hell that the vast majority of us will ever pay these prices for transportation. Until they get a good selection in the low $20k's they will continue to sink.
If Stellantis can get its act together and price Jeep Wranglers below 40k, where it SHOULD be, it would leave the competition in the dust! I hear that might just happen since dealerships can't sell them at 60,70, 80k. A year-end blowout sale is about to happen. It's going to be a buyers market! Finally.
Hybrid? Fits 35s? Looks like an IH Scout? Ok, I’m interested. Well done VW.
Great, love the pick up, but need a smaller one.
Built here I would buy just for that reason alone.
Holy shit these cars have something i never thought possible, an SUV with a porsche engine configuration.
Who doesn't love the retro look of a Scout? It looks like a Rivian that decided not to be ugly. However, VW builds design obsolescence vehicles destined for the scrap yard. Replace over repair comes too quickly. Unfortunately, you won't see your neighbor working on one of these in the garage. This is not the Scout that your grandpa took hunting and fishing.
Might replace my appreciation of Rivian.
You're in luck. Rivian and VW signed a 5 billion deal. Rivian will have a hell of a lot to do with this in the end. And when you buy one, I bet you'll end up at Rivian center to pick it up.
In my past I have owned three Scout II and they were awesome when it came to off road. I am glad to see the name but sad that it is not a US brand. I am concerned about the batteries and water. Only time will tell.
It is a US brand. Literally based, designed, and built in the US, by Americans. VW is just putting up the money
@@arcostonian Thank you for the information. I did not know any of that. This is the first I had heard of this come back and seeing the VW name tied to the brand. It will be interesting to see how the new trucks do. Hopefully they won't rust as bad as the originals.
@@dnvm84 Yep, to be built down the road from me In Blythewood, SC. Supposedly will have 4000 jobs when all gets going. VW bought the name out in an earlier deal but is keeping it as a separate company based here in US. I think the design team is in Michigan for example.
If you have a option to remove the doors and the roof like the Jeep or Bronco.... I am sold.
want the round headlights...
Good idea with the generators.. can they be used the entire life of the car?, or were they ment to be a 'backup' for when you cant charge at home..?
Either way it'll be good for off-roading trips, just carry extra jerry cans of gas like you would with any other ICE off-roader..
(but 2027 release date with a 50k starting price, come on, tesla truck was also supposed to start at 39k and we all know how that turned out..
I'll be amazed if it comes out before 2030 and you can get a dual generator one for under six figures)..
Solid front axle and sway bar disconnect too, like Jeep Wrangler, right?
yes, do we have very old engineering in this new vehicle?
@chadbrinkley6358 yes indeed, old heavy-duty mechanical engineering involved, along with strong electric motors and utility of big battery with high-power outlets for camping. Strong and quiet.
@@CrumResearch What about those of us that actually want to go faster in the desert and climb rocks?
@chadbrinkley6358 Good point, Baja racers and RZRs generally have independent front suspension with large amount of travel, right!
Make it a hybrid and dump the cabana top for roof rack with integrated solar
Technically it is a hybrid with range extender option, but actually better than most hybrids (like the Prius types) as it could still be fully EV if you never exceed its battery range. So best of both worlds.
@@panzer948 I don’t want to rely on charging stations with continued increased cost, blackouts and wait time as primary source of power. I also don’t want to spend $60k plus to only then have to build a power plant at my home.
@RedDevilDog1207 well get this and only use gas to power it. That is what the range extender offers. Just, like our volt, if you only wanted to use gas it will allow that... albeit the gas tank capacity will be smaller than typical trucks. Then, over time, you will realize that charging at home while you sleep and never stopping at a gas station for pricey oil to feed terrorists every few days is actually a plus... heck buying an EV should be the most patriotic thing one could do since it uses 100% home grown energy.
@panzer948 🤣🤣🤣 okay sure
@RedDevilDog1207 yep exactly. If you just think about it, it all makes sense! I work at a power plant and drive an American EV! So I'm about as patriotic as it gets! Didnt you ponder as a kid about the future? Jetsons and their flying cars? No we are not there yet cause we can't even get past using Dino DNA. Heck in 1890 most people wanted to continue to use horse and buggies. I want humans to advance not stand still. We each can do our part! 😀
For me its design and price
I'd take old over new. Lawnmower simple engineering, will continue to appreciate in value as opposed to Rivian-like depreciation.
Ready to see a scout compete with HUMMER these are some nice trucks indeed
Can it been modified the parts like Jeep or Bronco? If no, it will not be too much fun to me
like 37 tires, suspensions, or winch mounted?
@brucesong286 yes. They said you can customize it when you order.
As both a Jeep (CJ5) and new Bronco owner, I too wish for this and based on what I have seen, it will indeed. Besides, if enough of these sale there will be 3rd party companies popping up everywhere to sale aftermarket parts.
I'd take one customized with I4 turbo diesel or an inline 6, otherwise it's a hard pass.
What sucks is they're gonna be like 4 years too late without revisions
Actual production remains to be seen. Weren’t the prototypes built by Magna?
Reservation placed Terra Electric + Gas, but will cancel my reservation if Ford comes out with a Bronco Truck. I love my bronco but miss not having a truck bed.
I wonder how the range extender will work. Would I ever need to charge the car? Couldn’t I just fill it with gas and let the generator do the rest?
You would waste a lot of money that way, it's way cheaper to charge at home and then you never waste time going to a gas station.
Correction: The LC250 is only available with the turbo 2.8 inline 4 cylinder (hybrid) engine in the USA. Thus, it has less HP/Torque than stated. It is unfortunate that the Scout isn’t a true hybrid. VW, from what I understand, isn’t going to make solely powered gas powered vehicles in the immediate future.
Like everything about it but the fact that it only an EV.
Don't know why more hybrids don't use this setup. Let the gas engine run at it's peak efficiency rpm continuously. That way you get the most out of the gas, and the longest life out of the engine.
Start stop systems on combustion engine vehicles are the dumbest thing ever. The engine never warms up, contaminating the oil, and you keep using it in rpms it doesn't like. You'd be lucky to get 90k miles out them.
My Acura has 164k and I expect it do another 100k more.
Why can't we get a V6?
Volkswagen enthusiast here. While I can appreciate the effort from Volkswagen in the end it’s Electric, and has its limitations.
As a Touareg 05 4.2 V8 original owner Volkswagen needs to bring back the Touareg to the North American Market. A Diesel option or 6 cylinder hybrid would satisfy the Flagship market in North American not an Electric Vehicle.
Beauty
love the Traveler but don't need all that space. make a 2 door version about 8-10k cheaper that's still eligible for the tax credit and I'll gladly buy
One I will say is that I like the Scott design besides that if doesn’t offer a ICE then I’m not buying 😑🗑️
What happens when you damage battery underneath while "offroading". Then you get that battery wet and 🔥 the forest down because you cant put it out.
What happens if you puncture a gas tank and a hot exhaust burns down the forest..? you dont even need the tank to puncture, hot exhausts alone start multiple fires a year..
I'm pretty sure the random person 'puncturing' their offroad EV and starting a fire will be WAY less than the random douchebag without a spark arrester
@rogerwilco1777 easy to put out fuel fire with on board extinguishers as well friends.
Now try that with a giant lithium battery on fire.
@@HamRadioN0CKL non issue. ICE vehicles catch on fire 80 times more than ev's. so for every ev forest fire there will be 80 ice related forest fires.
@@HamRadioN0CKL🧠💀🤡
Too expensive, too late, nothing new here. Just another techy click bite that’s way over engineered. VW should have put a 4 cylinder engine and 3 speed manual transmission. Something anyone could afford. They will sit on the lots just like the Bronco, and grand Wagoneer.
This is a concept vehicle with a one off interior. We shall see in 2028 what it looks like then . Relax
Two things here: 1. these are going to be huge. Slightly smaller than the Hummer EV. 2. Most modern large EVs are body on frame; its the easiest way to fit battery packs into the structure. Rivian is a body on frame with Unibody elements for example
Its better, but evs are not feasible unless we're going to mine other planets anytime soon. What part of "open pit mine" and "slave labor" don't people understand?
lol
@@jamesmcfarlane5818 It's actually not funny. We overthrow foreign governments and have them go to war to make rebuilding seem like a gift. In North Coralina you can see how the dams were let loose right before the hurricane when they could have stored a lot more, just to flood out the region and so the local mining company can capitalize on one our nation's largest lithium deposits. You could look up the company, the stakeholders, and who they happened to be married too. I'm not going to tell you anything, so you HAVE to look it up just to figure out wtf I'm talking about.
@@jamesmcfarlane5818 Lahaina, N.C., LA., I'm wondering what you think is funny? Maybe you're one those people investing in all of this.
This looks exactly like a Rivian.
You forgot Ineos
“Game changing” they are just literal copies of Rivians.
I really believe this is a good thing depending on the battery that is in the vehicle, and that is why Toyota CEO said EVs are failures and the world will never be just EV. The Toyota CEO was referring to the Lithium battery. I am not sure people remember or are aware of what the Obama administration did (being Obama did.) Obama placed restriction on how EVs and Hybrids were able to be used in the USA. VW came out with a 2 cylinder diesel engine to charge a battery and would travel 207 mile on a gallon of fuel. One gallon. In the USA it would go approximately 198 miles on a gallon of fuel. Obama said if you build a Hybrid as a charging only, then you could only have one gallon of fuel to use no matter if it was gasoline or diesel. Well, we don't want EVs due to numerous things, but range is a big reason before charging for a large amount of time. I am not sure what happened, but right now there are Manufactures building vehicles with a charging engine generator and not to put the vehicle in motion. Good! The good is due to hydrogen fuel or even ammonia fuel will be the future and neither of the two we use now and are zero emission. That pisses off the Swamp in office now, because their money tree will die. It isn't just the Democrats, but mostly are. It is Republicans also and some are not in office now. Obama and Biden are two in the mix and we know Biden was due to the info that has come to light. Just think what we don't know.
Modern hi tec??....I thought the whole idea was to keep them simple and make them affordable? ...they should not /can notcompete with other similar products...but they could if the price was kept low and maintenance simple.
Those Land Cruiser numbers are completely wrong. It looks like someone mixed up the specs with a GX550. A new land cruiser definitely doesn't tow 8100 pounds.
Oddly enough..., the warranty on my current vehicle runs out in 2027...😊
It will be a another symbol/status car like a tesla or cyber truck. EV everything is not the best way forward right now. Should've done hybrid or a good 4 cylinder. Sucks these price tags will be jacked up too
Price will tell.
They aren't changing any game at that price point. Doubtful they'll even hit that price point.
We need 'cheaper' options, not many people can drop six figures on a car..
.. but lucky for you, these companies always lie about numbers. Tesla Truck was supposed to start at $39K remember..?
..and dont worry, the one you'd want, aka the Dual-Generator 'Off-Road' model will be a six figure vehicle for sure.. so good for you if you want to spend house money on a car, but its bad for the rest of us who want cars, but those six figures would be better spent towards a house, or feeding a family for a few months.
Wait a min. The Rivian doesn't have mechanical front and rear differentials or sway bar disconnect like the Bronco, Jeeps, and planned Scout so no way it would excel offroad. In most tests the Rivian doesn't do as well as the Jeep/Bronco so how could it be better than the Scout at offroad prownessnes since the Scout seems to be designed with more of the pure offroad specs of Jeep/Bronco.
While hybrids are unsettling, full ev's are terrifying to own. Vehicles are way too expensive to buy and reliability from all manufacturers, which has been in downward death spiral. Batteries for both hybrids and ev's are so expensive to replace, and if the vehicle is in a minor accident, chances are the insurance company will total it. The majority of hard-working Americans can not afford such vehicles to support families. Too much risk and expense.
so much misinformation here that I don't know where to begin. Sadly, you are drinking the negative Kool-Aid and not looking at the full picture. As an owner of either a Hybrid or full EV for the past 23 years, I am speaking from experience in knowing both pros and cons and believe me, the pros far outweigh the cons. Don't be scared and just go buy one yourself to find out the truth. Why are so many people scared of progress or change is beyond me. Folks like you back in 1890 would still be fighting for the horse and buggy... Now that is funny.
The headlight design is too close to a shitty Hyundai Santa Fe. They need to pull more from the old design of the Scout.
so many ev start ups failed already. scout should just keep hybrid/gas models
No wonder vw helps rivian
I’ll take a restored Terra two door with the 345 and the Chrysler automatic over this thing. Pretty trucks but where i live EVs dont cut it.
If it is not a Tesla. I am all in!
No, it's a pos vw.
@@T.I.R24 If it had the 345 or 392 I'd be more tempted.
@@T.I.R24VW doesn’t have anything to do with this brand other than funding
@@avery3991 they use the vw parts bin, the range extender would likely be developed from a vw 3 or 4 cylinder engine
@elefterioskoukoulis7612 exactly what VW parts?
only a few generic parts will be used in both VW and Scouts, that most consumers will never see or touch.... (FWIW Tesla wants other automakers to adopt its 48V architecture to reduce the net cost of production for those generic parts, it doesn't make them Tesla parts)
And it's hard to see how Scout will fit any existing VW engine in such a flat tight space, where they stated they are planning on putting it ....
@avery3991 Scout does have some former Volkswagen executives.... But the current EV architecture VW / Rivian Partnership.... Means there's a good chance Scouts will feel more like a Rivian, than a Volkswagen...
I hear EV I run as fast as I can while humming some V8 noises
I hope the prices is not High.
And comes with a gasoline engine
Will it be midsize? ( like ranger,colorado, tacoma) or fullsize ( like f150, silverado, ram)
Isn’t scout part of ford
Bringing back the iconic Scout brand is brilliant, making them EVs is just stupid. They're dead in the water unless they make gas- or diesel-engined models. I would never take an EV off-road, their range is too limited with no hope for refueling.
The new "bronco" has been another ill-conceived attempt at cashing in on an iconic SUV. Looks similar to a proven winner but, like Jeeps, they are junk.
I'll keep my 60 year old Scout because I can strap on a 5-gallon gas can and get home, it only requires a very basic set of SAE tools to work on almost everything - and it keeps appreciating in value.
Too bad there’s no two-door convertible
There is a two door in the pipeline but specs have not been announced yet.
pure ev dogcrap, first deep water this goes through its done. And what are you actually going to scout? the nearest charging station? Going to be a bunch of pavement queens. What will the winch mount to? beautiful truck but should've offered a all gas option along with the ev and hybrid. Also dreaming if you'll touch this for under 70k and it'll sink like a rock in the mud, has to be heavy when all electric. Im betting it will fail
I'll pass on anything with a battery. Hydrogen is the next best bet.
These are VW/Rivians. Using IH Scout names is a disgrace to the legacy.
How much did Scout pay you to blow them, @Ideal Cars?
Reservation placed in the first three minutes they went live.
Thanks to Volkswagen scout is back, but now Volkswagen is going down so scout will fade back into history again. Parts are hard to get and the price before dealer bs is 65 grand, goodbye scout 😂
Scout says these will be direct to consumer, so no ridiculous dealer markups.
@ Due to franchise laws, direct to consumer won’t happen. They know that, thats why they partnered with VW. But if that was the case, they should partner with Amazon 😂
Making it an EV is a loser. Try crossing a river and getting your batteries wet since they are in the floor of the frame.
You do know ppl iffroad there rivians hummer ev and cybertrucks right and cross rivers all the time dont talk shit when you dont know shit😂
@@mcsike7264 ok. I guess your version of crossing a puddle and my version of crossing a river are different.
@@nunyabiznus5428 rivians can go in 3 feet deep water the cyber truck even have a mode for it
Scout made a toaster - what is happening to us :)
The reason most automakers are going under they're trying to convert to electric vehicles but most of America doesn't want an electric vehicle this is why they're not selling
Tesla model Y becoming best selling in the us this year
well most Americans could ease their way into EVs if they bought one with range extender options like Scout is offering. That is essentially what I did back in 2011 with the first year model Chevy Volt. I later replaced it 11 years later with a full EV after I realized that 99% of our driving was with a battery (and that is on a vehicle with only 40 mile range...).
Why can’t we get a real gas motor? EV’s don’t work in the Rocky Mountains in the winter!
Bet they don't fare very well in a German winter either unless you live in a city and keep it in a heated garage. Oh wait, Germans can't heat anything because they cuddled up to Pootie! 🤣🤣
electric. period. with a briggs and stratton to recharge the battery. not interested.
With dealer lots full of EVs they can't sell, let's come up with a new EV that won't sell. Makes sense to me.
They're staying out of dealer networks and are selling direct to consumer like Tesla, that alone is a huge draw.
actually, the fact that this has an option for a range extender automatically makes it a special class beyond the standard EV and yes that includes all Tesla models. Its an EV first with the option to use gas. Should help win over many that are still nervous about changing technology. More EV manufactures should have this as an option.
The Scouts actually also come with an EREV option with a gas engine range extender.
@@faheemabbas3965 it is still an EV
Nope! Lost most at EV!
It will be dead on arrival in two years.
You lost me at "Now under VW."
It's American sub brand run like a start up with VW money.
Another overpriced unwanted EV that nobody asked for. This is a VW EV that will be no more reliable than their other EV's.
If this is just a VW, why would I trust it more than a VW? I wouldn't buy a VW EV.
It not. It is rivian software and has a completely new design. They're likely using the Bosch motors that rivian did not use.
“looking for who ask?”