Some notes and fun facts: -While Joanna's character model is different in NTSC-J and I was the one to originally address if it affects her size, I'm pretty confident it doesn't. I also have a video of a quintuple laser skip on that version. -Captain Santiago and other intercom lines still play with music and SFX off. -Superboosts work because your hit invincibility timer continues to expire while in the pause menu, allowing for you to be hit repeatedly in essentially just a few frames apart in in-game time. That's why there are brief waiting periods with each pause. -The second Depot warp has been hit many times and is actually easier than the first, just that it's not really useful. The reason why the TAS uses 0 collision was to make the warps themselves easier to perform and to move in a console-like manner for demonstration purposes, but the second warp does not require it at all.
Not a speed runner but I've played GoldenEye with the walk through doors gameshark cheat and I've always had to open the door on the train for the objective to complete in Depot so how does the warp bypass having to open the train door?
@@MacMarshall17 It’s the trainshot. You can fire at the train from a distance the right way, and your bullet will alert the guards inside the train. They’ll come out to go after you, thus opening the train door before you arrive.
hijacking the pin to give Whitegoose a quick correction. The player who raced Sakuya is "ah-oh" shirt. AKA Blue Shirt in japanese. It's a single word, not short for anything
@45:00 = quantum-time-bending-mold theory addendum. When they eat the mold in the dishes, you cannot find them when you test once the record is obtained. Cause the dudes live and go on, trashing the dishes in the realities where they end up, since they die in every reality where they didn't become champion.
Deepest Lore: Goldeneye doesn’t exist, speedrunning doesn’t exist and we’re all furtive illusions Goose is seeing as he stares into a roaring fire in his cabin.
Then the shot backs out a window, showing a cabin in the woods snowing. The shot keeps backing off until it's a snow globe in a little boys hand. His grandfather says to his father " I just don't understand this autism thing. He just sits here looking into that thing all day, I was I knew what was going own in that mind of his."
I think it’s worth noting that the “all bonds” portraits are still in the game and can be seen using game shark codes EDIT: Now that I finished the video there’s 2 things I’d like to add. -cradle and statue were supposed to be in multiplayer: if you use game shark codes to play single player levels in multiplayer you’ll find that both statue and cradle actually have guns and ammo placed on the stage meaning that the developers set up the levels to be played on multiplayer. -Goldeneye contains the original Rare Replay: in the code of goldeneye there actually is a ZXSpectrum emulator and a lot of old Rareware games on it as well. It is inaccessible without mods. Modern Vintage Gamer did a video on it a few months ago if anyone wants more information on it.
You dont need a gameshark for the other Bonds. There's an in-game cheat code that unlocks them and a whole host of generic npcs as playable in multiplayer. As I recall that cheat code went undiscovered for years.
@@Merik2013 I'm aware of the cheat that unlocks all the extra characters (Siberian special forces is my main) but don't think the other Bonds are included in that... unless you're talking about a different cheat.
No, there is no in-game cheat nor is there a gameshark code to unlock them. Perhaps the confusion comes from a mod made a few years ago that recreated the 4 bonds cheat. You can look it up if you're interested.
42:05 It's a phenomenon called ''time dilation'' which has a speed and a gravitational variant. Being near the equator would have to do with the speed variant in which the faster a body moves (speedrunner playing Goldeneye near the equator thanks to Earth's rotation), the slower time passes for him, but only in relation to observers (other speedrunners far from the equator) outside the speed influence. For the speedrunner under the speed influence, time does not run faster or slower from his point of view; therefore, it would have zero impact on the completion time of any mission. Besides, the speed required to see the effects of time dilation require speeds close to the speed of light, or strong gravitational fields like the ones present in neutron stars or black holes. All in all, not even a speedrunner wanting to achieve Dam 00:51 would be able to do so, even if he took his N64 to space on a ship traveling at 99.9% the speed of light and came back to Earth to show off because, first of all, we and our great-great-grandchildren would be gone for thousands of years, and secondly because time dilation does not work like that. PS: Please, make that video on ''The heat death of Goldeneye speedrunning''
Well said. Might as well be Dave in the escape pod in 2001: A Space Odyssey or something hands down theoretical to even be able to perceive the change in time dilation, let alone on earth.
Great explanation. I do feel compelled to clear something else up that's...kind of silly...but given how Goose mentioned the n64's clock precision...I can't help it: even if the effect was NOT relative (thus could be appreciated by those experiencing the time dilation), this would obviously affect everything, the n64 included. Maybe some think it would just be reaction-time advantage, which is also silly since the speedrunner is moving faster in time, not slower, but anyway...all nonsense...relativity...zero technical difference (at any speed, so not just zero practical). Bam.
In total there is no time difference between equator and the poles. Yes, time runs faster if you are faster, but also time runs slower if you are nearer to a mass. Both effects cancel each other out on earth. (You can get an explanation here: ua-cam.com/video/Z4oy6mnkyW4/v-deo.html ). Although, for some "serious" time gain, you could move to the ISS…
@@richardneumann3939 Can confirm. If earth resembled a sphere, a relative velocity induced effect of time dilation would be noticable between equator and poles. However, rotational forces stretched earth at the equator making it the geoid we live on today and where gravitational + rotational time dilation cancel. Mountains or other irregularities to the basically equipotential shape of earth's surface spoil this cancellation. The given example with ISS is extreme and perfect in that sense! Yet not enough to affect a speedrun. :
I feel so bad for that Lucid guy. Dude was just minding his own business and suddenly a bunch of people are appearing doubting him and asking questions. That sounds stressful af.
100% agree I speedrun in a small community, and there can be a period of silence due to lack of progress. If you're going to be met with instant doubt and alienation, I'd rather just play by myself and be happy with the times I'd set. If I got a WR, I could just upload it to youtube and give these guys a middle finger; how would the-elite treat an off-site untied WR? It probably wouldn't be considered legitimate, because it doesn't comply with the-elite' elitist bullshit. I'm kinda motivated to try and get a WR. Imagine if the best Goldeneye player didn't appear on the-elite - they should be renamed to the-plebs in that case 😅
From what I can tell, the elite speedrunning community are a bunch of nice, collaborative people, who genuinely enjoy competing with each other and want each other to succeed. However, they are genuinely suspicious of strangers showing up out of nowhere, posting times which would rival their own. There is nothing nefarious or xenophobic about this; it is human nature to distrust an outsider, and that distrust is healthy and normal. Moreover, outsiders are known to be willing to lie and cheat to gain entry into the elite, so they must be vigilant in order to protect their collective integrity. It is natural to assume that only someone already inside the community is capable of posting times that rival those of existing members, so the records of non-elites are presumed to be inferior or suspected of being fraudulent, requiring greater scrutiny. I would expect such treatment if I were a speedrunner posting new world records, but I can understand why some people would feel alienated by the behavior.
This is quite honestly one of your greatest videos ever Goose fabulous content and provides a perfect snapshot into the world of goldeneye and the entire community much love
This being one of my all time favorite games (and movies for that matter) and having even just a mild/moderate interest in speedrunning makes this video extremely enjoyable. I love this video format. Great job!
I'm amazed there's nothing on the Iceberg about the "Speedlore Speedhoard" wherein Goose himself has actually been getting and hoarding numerous records and untieds and he will cap off the final episode of Speedlore by unhoarding all of his times and explaining how the series itself helped him achieve the World #1 that has eluded him for his career. Perhaps this was INTENTIONALLY left off the iceberg because it would get people thinking about it?
One of the best videos yet. The perfect combination of fun, informative and interesting. Kinda surprised an hour flew by that quickly. Goose=Cowen Hanes gave me a real chuckle, as did the "Then again, that's just what you would expect me to say." I'm glad to hear you found making the video fun, I think the optimism/energy really showed in the presentation. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
The “playing at the equator” thing would only give you an advantage in a race where two player at different latitudes start at the exact same time, but I will still use it as an excuse to why I don’t have facility agent 42 yet
Yeah my intuition based on my (admittedly lapsed) knowledge of relativity is that the console would still tick at the same speed relative to the player so it wouldn't make a difference but I wouldn't say for certain without checking.
@@TheEloheim Yep, but for an outside observer watching the race (from the moon or something), the guy at the equator would appear slower. So it'd be a handicap, not an advantage, to live near the equator.
I was 7 when goldeneye came out and I can clearly remember my older neighbors who were playing goldeneye in their basement telling me there was a prize in the thousands of dollars for anyone who could make it to the secret dam island.
I am not a speed runner but I find the whole subject utterly fascinating & always love to learn more about the techniques & methods used or even just how they came about. So with that in mind I found this video to be a gold mine of information and I just wanted to say thank you for that.
May i add that fantasy league hoarding "technically" did happen but rather in a form of sandbagging. Upcoming perfect dark players would achieve decent times with cheats on, to not have their time count, but it would make for great practice for when the daily double would arrive. Obviously it was frowned upon but it's funny looking back at how eager some people were to win the league. Great times Also "Performance enhancing mould," and "playing near the equator" are definitely the most cursed.. I didn't actually know about Eric S. and his weird masking of this "time he's been looking for." Definitely the most interesting one. Even being a part of the community, you can still miss a couple of things here and there Cozy watch goose keep it up
I'm a physicist here. 42:30 Got my bachelors degree in physics and currently a prospective physics grad student. I can tell you that this is indeed a real effect and your times would be faster if you live on the equator than if you lived at the north or south pole. However, the effect is so negligible that it may as well not matter. Here is the explanation. The tangential speed for someone at the north or south pole is zero. The tangential speed for someone at the equator is about 464 m/s. Keep in mind that the speed of light is about 300,000,000 m/s. You have to be moving at a significant portion of the speed of light to make any real difference with the time dilation effect. Using the time-dilation equation from special relativity, with a relative speed of 464 m/s, for every second that has passed for you on the equator, 1.000000000012 seconds has passed for someone on the north pole. Put another way you would have to play a single level for about 2642.5 years at the equator before you save 1 full second over someone that is playing at the poles. 42:52 I'll also note that it is on the scale of picoseconds 10^-12 not yoctoseconds 10^-24.
Also a physicist (final year PhD student) and it's worth noting that everything in that reference frame would be moving at the adjusted time, and so in game times would be identical even if the adjustment were measurable. But a dfferent observer somewhere else could measure the difference if using real time measuring. Edit: There's also gravitational differences to account for since the earth is slightly squashed at the poles which would have a very slight general relativistic effect too which would offset some small part of the difference.
About the equator thing, the issue is with relative speed. Even if equator was at double speed, then all the equipment also would be, and as such it would be relatively the same, i.e. a minute still is a minute for someone who is there, just half a minute for an outsider.
@@M4XD4B0ZZ Nobody is checkmated. The position is wKg8 Nh8 - bKg6 Rf7 Rf6. It is a draw, the last move was White promoting to knight. It's the end of an endgame study.
@@M4XD4B0ZZ If you are interested in the entire study (from Probleemblad, January/February 2005), it is not on my channel but I reproduce it in the comment: wKg7 Rf3 Be4 Pe5 f6 g5 - bKh5 Rh3 Ra7 Ng3 Pf7 g6 - White to move and draw. Siegfried Hornecker, Probleemblad 2005. I will reply with the solution if you want, but in case you want to solve it yourself, I don't yet. FEN: 8/r4pK1/5Pp1/4P1Pk/4B3/5Rnr/8/8 w - - 0 1
@@M4XD4B0ZZ If you also want, you can download my free e-book (an autobiographical look at endgame studies from 2003 to 2013) here (only PDF format, it is English despite the German name): www.dropbox.com/s/9ci9ecetkl0thwe/Weltenfern%20v2.pdf?dl=0 Always make sure to check all files you download from the internet from random people like me, by the way, for example with Virustotal (online) where you can just paste the link to, or with a local scanner (Malwarebytes, Windows Defender, etc.)
Goddamn, what *CAN'T* that watch do? ...I'd make the Spy Kids joke and say "tell time" for a laugh, but the pause screen watch actually *does* have an accurate analog clock relative to when the mission canonically starts, soooooo nope.
Seeing as the game is getting extremely optimized and will *eventually* run low on content per say, I think a category allowing the cheats would be neat. It would extend the game's lifespan even more and allow for a lot more creativity. Definitely a different category though.
8:30 I recall this actually happened to a GTA San Andreas speedrunner, by pure chance he accidentally pressed a combination of buttons that ended up being a cheat code, and he had to discard that run.
I wish there was more clarification that the iceberg was both Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. Also missing the hidden cheese and some other weird secrets and glitches for both games.
Holding down and holding b, here. Atleast when catching pokemon was actually difficult and you ran through hundreds of balls for one legendary. Now in new games you're GUARANTEED to catch most legendaries with any balls and the ones that you dont are still much easier to catch.
@@Kurtonator Reminds me of Animal Crossing series and mashing A to reel in fish, even though the games only required the initial A-press. It's strange, but I get the feeling the fish will somehow break free if I don't button-mash.
Hello! physics student here The speed you experience time at changes from your speed RELITIVE to the things around you, so if your at the equator time is NOT faster as your still moving at the same speed in relation to the earth, the reason people in space experience it differently is because they are moving in relation to the earth Either way if time was going faster this wouldn't effect the game as no matter how fast times going you will always measure the same time for an objects movement (aslong as its moving with you) So even if you were moving 99% the speed of light you wouldn't get faster times :P
I'm not a physicist but I believe the "playing near the equator is faster" thing is not true because all players are using an absolute unit of measurement. A second in Goldeneye is always defined as 93,750,000 cycles of the N64's CPU. Even if one person got a 0:30 time on earth while another player did the exact same run at the exact same time while on a spaceship traveling at the speed of light both runs would end with the exact same 0:30 time. The runs would happen AT different times (depending on who's observing them), but both players and consoles would experience time the same and thus record time identically.
Would a runner perceiving such cycles while experiencing time slower be an advantage? As they are essentially playing in slightly slow motion, obviously nothing anywhere near measurable but just in theory
@@SirTylerGolf The player isn't experiencing anything in slower motion, to them it's the exact same. The theory is that only to an observer they would appear slower. From the point of view of each player the experience is identical. This time dilation business is just the arrogance of us humans and our importance in the universe. We measure everything based on our observations, believing that our observation is an important part of the process.
@@jakecooper5855 interesting, would a recording of this gameplay be any different based on if the observer is experiencing time differently than the player at the time?
@@SirTylerGolf No, the recording would be identical to anyone watching it at any time. The 'time' difference experience is only achieved through observation, so the theory goes. Let's say it's a 1 minute level, it takes the player 1 minute to complete no matter how fast/slow it's observed by others. The recording shows the players experience of 1 minute, not an outside observer's experience of watching them play the level. But it's an interesting question, and I would imagine some other people would argue differently.
Man, this was a trip. What an awesome video- had a blast making it all the way to the bottom. Really enjoyed taking a moment to relish the various quirks and obscurities of goldeneye speedrunning. Thanks Goose
I've never played GoldenEye 007, I've never watched any other videos about GoldenEye, I have no plans to speedrun Golden Eye, but somehow this video was still very entertaining. Great video!
I usually don't watch your in-depth one-hour streams about certain levels. (Because I just don't have the attention span). So I saw this in my recommended like three times. Then actually decided to click on it so glad I did thought I would watch 5-10 minutes decided to watch the whole thing!
I really enjoyed this. Thanks for curating information about these games and the community behind them. Your experience and personality make you a great steward.
Great video. I feel like this iceberg was haphazardly or randomly created (a lot of the placements don't make sense to me), but I still love these things.
If Henning DID cheat his Cavern 00 agent run live, I think the only possible way it could have been cheated is if he input the in-Mission cheat codes to give himself a boost. The others were in the kitchen, instead of watching him play , so it's possible he could have used either turbo mode or invincibility, by punching in the code while they were not looking. I don't know the entire setup for the story, but I like to play Devil's Advocate.
Great to be back watching your videos again, it's been a while, I have to say most of this stuff I have no idea about, but there's always a first time for everything!
Hello Ryan, I wish you a happy week, and hope you enjoy the next couple of days. I have been feeling down with the stress of schoolwork the last couple of days. I am feeling much better now and i would like to thank you for the content you have made and the improvements youve made towards yourself in life. Stay true,
Love your content rwhitegoose! I actually heard about you on a speedrunning compilation where you were speedrunning Goldeneye, and you were having the funniest meltdown. It's the one where you call speedrunning the most "degenerate act" a human can do. Me, and my friends quote that to each other all the time. Keep on trucking man.
Hey Goose, Love the frequent updates recently. Just wanted to let you know you're an "instant click" any time I see you upload anything on UA-cam. And, as the kids always say "IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING"
I'm so glad you showcased Devin and MoPodna's B1 17, that was truly an epic moment when they got it. I started watching them in July, and they didn't even know how to implement strafing properly. They've come such a long way.
I’ve never played this game and I know very little about it outside of some stuff I found out from speed running top tens, but this video is fascinating! I never new about all those glitches and Easter eggs and the speedrunning community sounds interesting. Great video!
I've hardly watched goldeneye speedrun videos but I watched all of this (albeit at 2X speed). great and interesting video, so many interesting mysteries
Was it really proven though? Because it makes perfect sense that calculating the overlay transparency would take some resources... i’ve been a developer for 20 years and it makes good sense to me. I would consider the cycle saving to be minimal, but at times in game where lag is a problem, it may actually help.
@@goldenirie Having thought about it for probably longer than i should have... From a technical standpoint, there are two major things that can effect game lag... 1, the visual demand... 2, the cpu cycle demand... Technically, the game would still need to calculate the number of bullets remaining so that you reload on time. So turning the display off will not remove that cycle requirement. However, graphically... The edges of the munition image and the edges of the font are either pre-renders with a semi transparent edge, or are anti-aliased on demand... either way that creates a number of graphical calculations that must be performed each frame. This demand is small, but it certainly exists.
Your layout for ice bergs should be the template for them all, quick transitions and a constant reminder up top where we are in the tier and ice berg in total
In regards to soundeffects: I'm not a N64 dev, and I've certainly never seen the source code for Goldeneye, however, from a programming standpoint it is *much* easier to simply change a global volume variable to 0 than it is to actually make a second code path where sound effects are not processed. In other words, it's very very ikely that sound effects are still processed, even with the volume at 0, and therefore there's no speedup to turning them off.
Who else is here because youtube keeps reccomending all these "Iceberg" videos without any context on what they are? i've finally caved in and decided to watch one
Some notes and fun facts:
-While Joanna's character model is different in NTSC-J and I was the one to originally address if it affects her size, I'm pretty confident it doesn't. I also have a video of a quintuple laser skip on that version.
-Captain Santiago and other intercom lines still play with music and SFX off.
-Superboosts work because your hit invincibility timer continues to expire while in the pause menu, allowing for you to be hit repeatedly in essentially just a few frames apart in in-game time. That's why there are brief waiting periods with each pause.
-The second Depot warp has been hit many times and is actually easier than the first, just that it's not really useful. The reason why the TAS uses 0 collision was to make the warps themselves easier to perform and to move in a console-like manner for demonstration purposes, but the second warp does not require it at all.
Not a speed runner but I've played GoldenEye with the walk through doors gameshark cheat and I've always had to open the door on the train for the objective to complete in Depot so how does the warp bypass having to open the train door?
@@MacMarshall17 It’s the trainshot. You can fire at the train from a distance the right way, and your bullet will alert the guards inside the train. They’ll come out to go after you, thus opening the train door before you arrive.
hijacking the pin to give Whitegoose a quick correction. The player who raced Sakuya is "ah-oh" shirt. AKA Blue Shirt in japanese. It's a single word, not short for anything
The character model change is just a different face in Japan.
@45:00 = quantum-time-bending-mold theory addendum.
When they eat the mold in the dishes, you cannot find them when you test once the record is obtained.
Cause the dudes live and go on, trashing the dishes in the realities where they end up, since they die in every reality where they didn't become champion.
You can get streets 0:45 if you start bond in second gear
Thanks for the expert advice Todd
You just need to factor in the human element
@@LightOffArchives LMAO this meme will never die
You're a great Kung-Fuist
It's like Bond's always stuck in second geeeaaar....
Deepest Lore: Goldeneye doesn’t exist, speedrunning doesn’t exist and we’re all furtive illusions Goose is seeing as he stares into a roaring fire in his cabin.
I personally have never played Goldeneye, nor do I know anyone who has played it nor seen it in-person played live, so WHO KNOWS.
@@X_Baron Same here. The only place I know this game from is from Goose's and Karl's video's.
I like that word: 'Furtive'.
Then the shot backs out a window, showing a cabin in the woods snowing. The shot keeps backing off until it's a snow globe in a little boys hand. His grandfather says to his father " I just don't understand this autism thing. He just sits here looking into that thing all day, I was I knew what was going own in that mind of his."
You just discovered the secret to life.
I think it’s worth noting that the “all bonds” portraits are still in the game and can be seen using game shark codes
EDIT: Now that I finished the video there’s 2 things I’d like to add.
-cradle and statue were supposed to be in multiplayer: if you use game shark codes to play single player levels in multiplayer you’ll find that both statue and cradle actually have guns and ammo placed on the stage meaning that the developers set up the levels to be played on multiplayer.
-Goldeneye contains the original Rare Replay: in the code of goldeneye there actually is a ZXSpectrum emulator and a lot of old Rareware games on it as well. It is inaccessible without mods. Modern Vintage Gamer did a video on it a few months ago if anyone wants more information on it.
You dont need a gameshark for the other Bonds. There's an in-game cheat code that unlocks them and a whole host of generic npcs as playable in multiplayer. As I recall that cheat code went undiscovered for years.
@@Merik2013 I'm aware of the cheat that unlocks all the extra characters (Siberian special forces is my main) but don't think the other Bonds are included in that... unless you're talking about a different cheat.
There were codes to unlock a few random characters but you needed a gameshark/action replay for the all bonds if i remember right.
No, there is no in-game cheat nor is there a gameshark code to unlock them. Perhaps the confusion comes from a mod made a few years ago that recreated the 4 bonds cheat. You can look it up if you're interested.
42:05 It's a phenomenon called ''time dilation'' which has a speed and a gravitational variant. Being near the equator would have to do with the speed variant in which the faster a body moves (speedrunner playing Goldeneye near the equator thanks to Earth's rotation), the slower time passes for him, but only in relation to observers (other speedrunners far from the equator) outside the speed influence. For the speedrunner under the speed influence, time does not run faster or slower from his point of view; therefore, it would have zero impact on the completion time of any mission. Besides, the speed required to see the effects of time dilation require speeds close to the speed of light, or strong gravitational fields like the ones present in neutron stars or black holes.
All in all, not even a speedrunner wanting to achieve Dam 00:51 would be able to do so, even if he took his N64 to space on a ship traveling at 99.9% the speed of light and came back to Earth to show off because, first of all, we and our great-great-grandchildren would be gone for thousands of years, and secondly because time dilation does not work like that.
PS: Please, make that video on ''The heat death of Goldeneye speedrunning''
Pretty sure all the GoldenEye speedrunners will think after reading this is "let's go to space to make our speedruns go faster brrrr"
Well said. Might as well be Dave in the escape pod in 2001: A Space Odyssey or something hands down theoretical to even be able to perceive the change in time dilation, let alone on earth.
Great explanation. I do feel compelled to clear something else up that's...kind of silly...but given how Goose mentioned the n64's clock precision...I can't help it: even if the effect was NOT relative (thus could be appreciated by those experiencing the time dilation), this would obviously affect everything, the n64 included. Maybe some think it would just be reaction-time advantage, which is also silly since the speedrunner is moving faster in time, not slower, but anyway...all nonsense...relativity...zero technical difference (at any speed, so not just zero practical). Bam.
In total there is no time difference between equator and the poles. Yes, time runs faster if you are faster, but also time runs slower if you are nearer to a mass. Both effects cancel each other out on earth. (You can get an explanation here: ua-cam.com/video/Z4oy6mnkyW4/v-deo.html ).
Although, for some "serious" time gain, you could move to the ISS…
@@richardneumann3939 Can confirm. If earth resembled a sphere, a relative velocity induced effect of time dilation would be noticable between equator and poles. However, rotational forces stretched earth at the equator making it the geoid we live on today and where gravitational + rotational time dilation cancel.
Mountains or other irregularities to the basically equipotential shape of earth's surface spoil this cancellation. The given example with ISS is extreme and perfect in that sense! Yet not enough to affect a speedrun. :
I feel so bad for that Lucid guy. Dude was just minding his own business and suddenly a bunch of people are appearing doubting him and asking questions. That sounds stressful af.
Yep, can thank Clemens for that one. Basically chased him out.
@@ian2714 What a willy.
100% agree
I speedrun in a small community, and there can be a period of silence due to lack of progress. If you're going to be met with instant doubt and alienation, I'd rather just play by myself and be happy with the times I'd set. If I got a WR, I could just upload it to youtube and give these guys a middle finger; how would the-elite treat an off-site untied WR? It probably wouldn't be considered legitimate, because it doesn't comply with the-elite' elitist bullshit. I'm kinda motivated to try and get a WR. Imagine if the best Goldeneye player didn't appear on the-elite - they should be renamed to the-plebs in that case 😅
From what I can tell, the elite speedrunning community are a bunch of nice, collaborative people, who genuinely enjoy competing with each other and want each other to succeed. However, they are genuinely suspicious of strangers showing up out of nowhere, posting times which would rival their own. There is nothing nefarious or xenophobic about this; it is human nature to distrust an outsider, and that distrust is healthy and normal. Moreover, outsiders are known to be willing to lie and cheat to gain entry into the elite, so they must be vigilant in order to protect their collective integrity. It is natural to assume that only someone already inside the community is capable of posting times that rival those of existing members, so the records of non-elites are presumed to be inferior or suspected of being fraudulent, requiring greater scrutiny. I would expect such treatment if I were a speedrunner posting new world records, but I can understand why some people would feel alienated by the behavior.
@@TheZetaKai bout a perfect comment
This is quite honestly one of your greatest videos ever Goose
fabulous content and provides a perfect snapshot into the world of goldeneye and the entire community
much love
This being one of my all time favorite games (and movies for that matter) and having even just a mild/moderate interest in speedrunning makes this video extremely enjoyable. I love this video format. Great job!
As someone who helped Jezz with his homework, I can tell that the channel Jezz-Homework-Hideout was Legendary.
Your commemt reminded me of an old game i used to play called jezz ball on pc.
I'm amazed there's nothing on the Iceberg about the "Speedlore Speedhoard" wherein Goose himself has actually been getting and hoarding numerous records and untieds and he will cap off the final episode of Speedlore by unhoarding all of his times and explaining how the series itself helped him achieve the World #1 that has eluded him for his career. Perhaps this was INTENTIONALLY left off the iceberg because it would get people thinking about it?
It's on the back of the meme
Iceberg iceberg 😂
Career? Speed running this game is low tier
Eric Sones was looking for a ridge wallet
why was Eric Sones's last name censored in the video, then Goose doesn't censor it one time when he says it????? that's the real mystery to me
Wondering the same thing...
that's tier 9 territory
why is it censored?
+1, I'm curious as well
Sones is an acronym for Some One Nibbles Egg Spice, a true speedrun legend. Stay true friends
One of the best videos yet. The perfect combination of fun, informative and interesting. Kinda surprised an hour flew by that quickly. Goose=Cowen Hanes gave me a real chuckle, as did the "Then again, that's just what you would expect me to say." I'm glad to hear you found making the video fun, I think the optimism/energy really showed in the presentation. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
Just got myself a pizza. Pizza + you uploaded a new vid = best saturday ever
The density of information in this video is amazing. 15 minutes in, and i can already say this is my favorite of all your videos.
Thank you very much!
The “playing at the equator” thing would only give you an advantage in a race where two player at different latitudes start at the exact same time, but I will still use it as an excuse to why I don’t have facility agent 42 yet
Yeah my intuition based on my (admittedly lapsed) knowledge of relativity is that the console would still tick at the same speed relative to the player so it wouldn't make a difference but I wouldn't say for certain without checking.
@@TheEloheim Yep, but for an outside observer watching the race (from the moon or something), the guy at the equator would appear slower. So it'd be a handicap, not an advantage, to live near the equator.
The way that guard zooms at the bond that’s just spawning at 1:05:00 deeply unsettles me. I genuinely got chills when I saw it.
Oh yeah lmao that's so uncanny it gave me the spooked giggles
I was 7 when goldeneye came out and I can clearly remember my older neighbors who were playing goldeneye in their basement telling me there was a prize in the thousands of dollars for anyone who could make it to the secret dam island.
They should of called “Line mode”, “Take on me mode”.
Ah ha!
I just recently got into both speedrunning and icebergs and an hour of this is everything I want in my life.
This was a really great video, I love learning about all of these different theories!
I was going to say the same thing. The shear amount of knowledge is amazing
Hey Mah Dry Bread!
Comments are good for the UA-cam algorithm.
@@rhodahaque i wonder what fossil he took
Ruwels
I am not a speed runner but I find the whole subject utterly fascinating & always love to learn more about the techniques & methods used or even just how they came about. So with that in mind I found this video to be a gold mine of information and I just wanted to say thank you for that.
May i add that fantasy league hoarding "technically" did happen but rather in a form of sandbagging. Upcoming perfect dark players would achieve decent times with cheats on, to not have their time count, but it would make for great practice for when the daily double would arrive. Obviously it was frowned upon but it's funny looking back at how eager some people were to win the league. Great times
Also "Performance enhancing mould," and "playing near the equator" are definitely the most cursed..
I didn't actually know about Eric S. and his weird masking of this "time he's been looking for." Definitely the most interesting one. Even being a part of the community, you can still miss a couple of things here and there
Cozy watch goose keep it up
20+ Yr old game and still managing to squeeze out interesting content about it. Great work goose
I'm a physicist here. 42:30 Got my bachelors degree in physics and currently a prospective physics grad student. I can tell you that this is indeed a real effect and your times would be faster if you live on the equator than if you lived at the north or south pole. However, the effect is so negligible that it may as well not matter.
Here is the explanation. The tangential speed for someone at the north or south pole is zero. The tangential speed for someone at the equator is about 464 m/s. Keep in mind that the speed of light is about 300,000,000 m/s. You have to be moving at a significant portion of the speed of light to make any real difference with the time dilation effect. Using the time-dilation equation from special relativity, with a relative speed of 464 m/s, for every second that has passed for you on the equator, 1.000000000012 seconds has passed for someone on the north pole. Put another way you would have to play a single level for about 2642.5 years at the equator before you save 1 full second over someone that is playing at the poles.
42:52 I'll also note that it is on the scale of picoseconds 10^-12 not yoctoseconds 10^-24.
Based
@@v3ck1n and redpilled
Also a physicist (final year PhD student) and it's worth noting that everything in that reference frame would be moving at the adjusted time, and so in game times would be identical even if the adjustment were measurable. But a dfferent observer somewhere else could measure the difference if using real time measuring.
Edit: There's also gravitational differences to account for since the earth is slightly squashed at the poles which would have a very slight general relativistic effect too which would offset some small part of the difference.
Fun fact. 83% of goose's audience are physicist.
About the equator thing, the issue is with relative speed. Even if equator was at double speed, then all the equipment also would be, and as such it would be relatively the same, i.e. a minute still is a minute for someone who is there, just half a minute for an outsider.
Hey I was wondering about your pfp.. How is that possible? Both players are checkmate?
@@M4XD4B0ZZ Nobody is checkmated. The position is wKg8 Nh8 - bKg6 Rf7 Rf6. It is a draw, the last move was White promoting to knight. It's the end of an endgame study.
@@Lovuschka thx for clarifying
@@M4XD4B0ZZ If you are interested in the entire study (from Probleemblad, January/February 2005), it is not on my channel but I reproduce it in the comment: wKg7 Rf3 Be4 Pe5 f6 g5 - bKh5 Rh3 Ra7 Ng3 Pf7 g6 - White to move and draw. Siegfried Hornecker, Probleemblad 2005. I will reply with the solution if you want, but in case you want to solve it yourself, I don't yet.
FEN: 8/r4pK1/5Pp1/4P1Pk/4B3/5Rnr/8/8 w - - 0 1
@@M4XD4B0ZZ If you also want, you can download my free e-book (an autobiographical look at endgame studies from 2003 to 2013) here (only PDF format, it is English despite the German name): www.dropbox.com/s/9ci9ecetkl0thwe/Weltenfern%20v2.pdf?dl=0
Always make sure to check all files you download from the internet from random people like me, by the way, for example with Virustotal (online) where you can just paste the link to, or with a local scanner (Malwarebytes, Windows Defender, etc.)
The third arm bond glitch looks like he has the gun mounted onto his arm and he's using the watch to fire it.. lol
Goddamn, what *CAN'T* that watch do?
...I'd make the Spy Kids joke and say "tell time" for a laugh, but the pause screen watch actually *does* have an accurate analog clock relative to when the mission canonically starts, soooooo nope.
Seeing as the game is getting extremely optimized and will *eventually* run low on content per say, I think a category allowing the cheats would be neat. It would extend the game's lifespan even more and allow for a lot more creativity.
Definitely a different category though.
8:30 I recall this actually happened to a GTA San Andreas speedrunner, by pure chance he accidentally pressed a combination of buttons that ended up being a cheat code, and he had to discard that run.
You were the perfect person to do one of these iceberg videos. So entertaining and engaging.
But why is James Bonds mouth so wide on the cover? 🤔🤔
Missed oportunity to call it the Goldeneye-sberg
I'm sad that the "Perfect Dark Auto-gun Windmill in Carrington Villa" is not in the iceberg :(
What is this
@@mathprodigy There's a windmill in Villa that is encoded as an autogun.
I wish there was more clarification that the iceberg was both Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. Also missing the hidden cheese and some other weird secrets and glitches for both games.
@@WilfredCthulu Yeah I found it very confusing when he started talking about PD without any introduction in a Goldeneye titled video
It's the ultimate defense weapon
Hey Ryan, fellow canadian here. Keep up the great work. Your videos mellow me out
I knew it was only a matter of time that you covered this. This’ll be a fun hour long listen
Classic clemmens myth is pressing down and tapping A when catching pokemon.
I always heard tapping A and B once every time the ball rocks back and forth.
I used to tap A repeatedly believing it would make it more likely to catch the Pokémon, lmao
Holding down and holding b, here. Atleast when catching pokemon was actually difficult and you ran through hundreds of balls for one legendary. Now in new games you're GUARANTEED to catch most legendaries with any balls and the ones that you dont are still much easier to catch.
A classic one is also mashing a during a load screen, I used to mash the a/x button on burnout games after crashing to respawn faster.
@@Kurtonator Reminds me of Animal Crossing series and mashing A to reel in fish, even though the games only required the initial A-press. It's strange, but I get the feeling the fish will somehow break free if I don't button-mash.
Hello! physics student here
The speed you experience time at changes from your speed RELITIVE to the things around you, so if your at the equator time is NOT faster as your still moving at the same speed in relation to the earth, the reason people in space experience it differently is because they are moving in relation to the earth
Either way if time was going faster this wouldn't effect the game as no matter how fast times going you will always measure the same time for an objects movement (aslong as its moving with you)
So even if you were moving 99% the speed of light you wouldn't get faster times :P
Been seeing a lot of these iceberg videos lately and I can't get enough of em. Amazing video as always
I'm not a physicist but I believe the "playing near the equator is faster" thing is not true because all players are using an absolute unit of measurement. A second in Goldeneye is always defined as 93,750,000 cycles of the N64's CPU. Even if one person got a 0:30 time on earth while another player did the exact same run at the exact same time while on a spaceship traveling at the speed of light both runs would end with the exact same 0:30 time. The runs would happen AT different times (depending on who's observing them), but both players and consoles would experience time the same and thus record time identically.
Would a runner perceiving such cycles while experiencing time slower be an advantage? As they are essentially playing in slightly slow motion, obviously nothing anywhere near measurable but just in theory
@@SirTylerGolf The player isn't experiencing anything in slower motion, to them it's the exact same. The theory is that only to an observer they would appear slower. From the point of view of each player the experience is identical. This time dilation business is just the arrogance of us humans and our importance in the universe. We measure everything based on our observations, believing that our observation is an important part of the process.
@@jakecooper5855 interesting, would a recording of this gameplay be any different based on if the observer is experiencing time differently than the player at the time?
@@SirTylerGolf No, the recording would be identical to anyone watching it at any time. The 'time' difference experience is only achieved through observation, so the theory goes. Let's say it's a 1 minute level, it takes the player 1 minute to complete no matter how fast/slow it's observed by others. The recording shows the players experience of 1 minute, not an outside observer's experience of watching them play the level. But it's an interesting question, and I would imagine some other people would argue differently.
"Yea but my 30 is faster"
Was Eric's name censored due to privacy or will saying his full name create a universal paradox that would shatter the multiverse?
his full name is on the elite rankings so its probably the second one
He said it uncensored the third time he said it
Both.
thats the best iceberg video I have ever seen, you took your time to equally address and explain every single category (even the meme ones)
FORTUIN T WILL RETURN
Did you hear? They decided the Arecibo radio telescope (aka “Cradle”) will not be rebuilt after it was damaged :(
That's fucked up
@@mathprodigy too dangerous to repair it
On the in game cheat code thing, I wouldn't see the harm in creating a "Line Mode" category to pass levels.
Man, this was a trip. What an awesome video- had a blast making it all the way to the bottom. Really enjoyed taking a moment to relish the various quirks and obscurities of goldeneye speedrunning. Thanks Goose
In the last year or so I've become totally engrossed by the world of speedrunning and it's mostly thanks to this channel. Love your videos.
I've never played GoldenEye 007, I've never watched any other videos about GoldenEye, I have no plans to speedrun Golden Eye, but somehow this video was still very entertaining. Great video!
Everyone: "lag."
Goose: "lāæïgh"
I usually don't watch your in-depth one-hour streams about certain levels. (Because I just don't have the attention span). So I saw this in my recommended like three times. Then actually decided to click on it so glad I did thought I would watch 5-10 minutes decided to watch the whole thing!
Is it odd that I don't enjoy watching speedruns at all, but I love content ABOUT speedrunning history like Goose's and Karl's?
It means you just like hearing people talk
I really enjoyed this. Thanks for curating information about these games and the community behind them. Your experience and personality make you a great steward.
"AO Shirt" is actually just "Blue Shirt" in japanese. Which is precisely what that dude was.
Great video. I feel like this iceberg was haphazardly or randomly created (a lot of the placements don't make sense to me), but I still love these things.
If Henning DID cheat his Cavern 00 agent run live, I think the only possible way it could have been cheated is if he input the in-Mission cheat codes to give himself a boost. The others were in the kitchen, instead of watching him play , so it's possible he could have used either turbo mode or invincibility, by punching in the code while they were not looking. I don't know the entire setup for the story, but I like to play Devil's Advocate.
I didn't imagine that an iceberg for such a forgotten game would be an hour long. Good job mate.
Not a forgotten game
Please do these for any icebergs you can explain. Massive entertainment
explaining the iceberg memes are the best thing that's come out of youtube this year
Absolutely fantastic video. From the sound of your voice to the cozy cabin fireside stories. Love it all. Keep it up!
22:22 It didn't have the colon so the guy must have thought Clemens was counting his run in seconds instead of minutes, I mean it's a valid question
A whole hour of rwhitegoose on Saturday?! Amazing!!!
How do people see this video and dislike it?? Great vid as always goose
Marc is still using performance enhancing mold. He just did the 1:54 between PEM cycles lol
This was an amazing video, I loved diving deep into the eldritch knowledge of the Elite
I think you left Eric’s name uncensored in the audio at one point. Also why is it censored in the first place?
id like to know myself
Lol rip censorship
This is the secret hidden layer of the iceberg.
@@btf_flotsam478 Tier 9.
I love the idea of a chat dedicated to helping someone with their homework getting deleted therefore leading to total mayhem on the leader boards
Great to be back watching your videos again, it's been a while, I have to say most of this stuff I have no idea about, but there's always a first time for everything!
I had a feeling you were gonna be making this video. Made myself a pizza and some tea and thoroughly enjoyed it, good stuff man :)
Hello Ryan, I wish you a happy week, and hope you enjoy the next couple of days. I have been feeling down with the stress of schoolwork the last couple of days. I am feeling much better now and i would like to thank you for the content you have made and the improvements youve made towards yourself in life.
Stay true,
Love your content rwhitegoose! I actually heard about you on a speedrunning compilation where you were speedrunning Goldeneye, and you were having the funniest meltdown. It's the one where you call speedrunning the most "degenerate act" a human can do. Me, and my friends quote that to each other all the time. Keep on trucking man.
Congratulations on getting 100K subscribers!
Man.. your channel is the best ever! So nostalgic for me! It's amazing knowing how til this days n64 GoldenEye is still played!
Greatings from Brazil!
Anyone else wish he started off with
"My friends, the icebergs just keep happening?"
Hey Goose, Love the frequent updates recently. Just wanted to let you know you're an "instant click" any time I see you upload anything on UA-cam.
And, as the kids always say "IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING"
99,9 k subscribers now.
I am so happy to see that this channel will reach the 100k subscribers milestone very soon.
Early congratulations from me
This video is so interesting yet half way thru fell asleep because Goose is also relaxing asf to listen to lol
I'm so glad you showcased Devin and MoPodna's B1 17, that was truly an epic moment when they got it. I started watching them in July, and they didn't even know how to implement strafing properly. They've come such a long way.
Jezz-Homework-Hideout is really wholesome
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching this! Thanks for putting it together.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yay, goldeneye iceberg and it’s goose
Great video! I was stunned that it was an hour long, didn't feel like an hour at all!
I’ve never played this game and I know very little about it outside of some stuff I found out from speed running top tens, but this video is fascinating! I never new about all those glitches and Easter eggs and the speedrunning community sounds interesting. Great video!
I respect you linking sources to other youtubers and references.
Amazing video man as always very nice
Greetings from Colombia!
I've hardly watched goldeneye speedrun videos but I watched all of this (albeit at 2X speed). great and interesting video, so many interesting mysteries
God I love the elite. What a great community!
I knew nothing about this game before this love the ice bergs videos
That has t be the longest youtube video I have ever watched.
It was very entertaining thank you.
I hope this video blows up, cheers to 100k!
now this was a really entertaining video lol thanks for the fun you did a good job on this
i didn't even played the game but when such a 1h video still is really good imo, you did an amazing job
Watched this entire video in one sitting. Thanks for being so comfy
Ammo off screen was proven to NOT save time before I even started using it religiously, but I'm happy to be attributed to such a meme anyway
Was it really proven though? Because it makes perfect sense that calculating the overlay transparency would take some resources... i’ve been a developer for 20 years and it makes good sense to me.
I would consider the cycle saving to be minimal, but at times in game where lag is a problem, it may actually help.
@@zerg9523 yeah as much as the tassers could see looking into it
@@zerg9523 would love if you or someone else could prove otherwise though, unfortunately some things are kinda hard to 100% figure out
@@goldenirie Having thought about it for probably longer than i should have...
From a technical standpoint, there are two major things that can effect game lag... 1, the visual demand... 2, the cpu cycle demand...
Technically, the game would still need to calculate the number of bullets remaining so that you reload on time. So turning the display off will not remove that cycle requirement.
However, graphically... The edges of the munition image and the edges of the font are either pre-renders with a semi transparent edge, or are anti-aliased on demand... either way that creates a number of graphical calculations that must be performed each frame. This demand is small, but it certainly exists.
Great stuff RWhiteGoose! Awesome video, well done! :)
Your layout for ice bergs should be the template for them all, quick transitions and a constant reminder up top where we are in the tier and ice berg in total
In regards to soundeffects:
I'm not a N64 dev, and I've certainly never seen the source code for Goldeneye, however, from a programming standpoint it is *much* easier to simply change a global volume variable to 0 than it is to actually make a second code path where sound effects are not processed.
In other words, it's very very ikely that sound effects are still processed, even with the volume at 0, and therefore there's no speedup to turning them off.
Who else is here because youtube keeps reccomending all these "Iceberg" videos without any context on what they are? i've finally caved in and decided to watch one
I love how this iceberg had speedrun facts it was a pleasant surprise, great video.
More Japanese would probably post times on the elite if the website had a japanese language version
This is one of my favorite videos you've made. thank you!
Love these kinds of videos, thank you 👍👍