KK2 Autolevel Tuning and Explanation

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  • @nickfortes383
    @nickfortes383 9 років тому

    this is the most concise, no BS explanation I've seen yet. I wish all YT videos were like this instead of 5-10 minutes of a guy wanting to hear himself talk until he finally gives the 1 minute demo you came for where you still don't gain any knowledge

  • @Painless360
    @Painless360 11 років тому +4

    Thank you for a clear, useful explanation

  • @HisXLNC
    @HisXLNC 8 років тому

    I'm in the process of tuning my first quad copter build and this is the first, plain English explanation I could find for all the settings. Good video.

  • @MarkOfBitcoin
    @MarkOfBitcoin 11 років тому

    FINALLY! Finally someone explains what P & I settings ACTUALLY mean and what they do, rather than just telling you what to set them to! Mate, can't thank you enough!!
    Oh, and also thanks for explaining the ACC trim! My quad does exactly that ALL THE TIME but had no idea how to fix it, since nobody explained what those settings do. Man, you should get paid to write the manual for the KK2 board!
    Please, if you have time, write up or video a segment on EVERY setting available.
    Cheers!

  • @YamahaChris
    @YamahaChris 11 років тому

    On behalf of all Noob and intermediate flyers I thank you for making something so many people have made complicated, look simple. After much reading and practice I managed to get my acro mode perfect but my auro level has always been rubbish and I couldn't work out why. You video showed me the right way to tune it. You're a genius

  • @robodeath
    @robodeath 11 років тому

    I upgraded from a kkmulticopter board to a kk 2.0 board and the auto level is amazing. Thanks for explaining the trims, I was trying to trim on my transmitter and was getting no where, flies perfect for FPV now.

  • @cj2006sd
    @cj2006sd 11 років тому

    Thank for the video. Very quick, easy to understand and straight to the point. Definitely appreciate the explanation. I would love to also see one on height dampening for the kk2 as well. Thanks again!

  • @chrisstolle5664
    @chrisstolle5664 10 років тому

    I have come back and watched this again and again. Thanks!

  • @mrmurder75
    @mrmurder75 11 років тому

    This what us noobs needed. A straight forward explanation of how to adjust auto level. Thanks mate:-)

  • @aaronjae7428
    @aaronjae7428 11 років тому

    Wow.......i've pretty much just ignored the ACC settings up 7ntil now since its not really listed in anyones initial setup videos for the kk2, but damn it if you didnt make me smack myself in the forehead that it took setting up a gimbal to figure it out.....great simple, concise, & logical explanation for autolevel & acc setups.....THANKS!

  • @MrMrwilem
    @MrMrwilem 11 років тому

    flash your ESCs, make sure the axis are coupled, make sure props are balanced, make sure ESCs are all calibrated as described in the instructions or here in one of this guys great videos. My stock turnigy ESCs did ok. My Blue series had to be flashed to get rid of the jitters.

  • @truthseekers666
    @truthseekers666 11 років тому

    You explain things very well... concise and clear. Please keep going.

  • @irvan36mm
    @irvan36mm 11 років тому

    THANK YOU for the best explanation of P Gains & P Limits.
    I am currently building a Hoverthings Flip FPV w/ a KK2 and hope to get it up & flying this weekend, thanks to your videos!!

  • @davygarrett
    @davygarrett 11 років тому

    cheers for this..... and for information on one of your forum posts where you recommended that the original poster should do a factory reset on his KK 2.0 board, and attempt to fly the quad again.... I followed your info and now my quad flies as sweet as a nut.... cheers buddy...

  • @dem0n1k
    @dem0n1k 11 років тому

    Thanks for the great explanation! I previously had totally the wrong idea about autolevel P limit... I thought it was just the denominator in a ratio with the gain. Thanks!

  • @Mac830302
    @Mac830302 11 років тому

    This is exactly the kind of video I need cause I'm looking att building my own quad with the KK 2.0 board and 450mm size frame.
    Very good information, Thank you :)

  • @Personal-dronesNet
    @Personal-dronesNet 11 років тому

    Very clear video, now I understand self level gains in the KK2. Just fixed a bad drift in my micro quad with the accelerometer trimming. Thanks!

  • @spidarx
    @spidarx 11 років тому

    I really needed this. I have been trying to get some oscillations out of my quad, but I was only working with the pi editor, when I needed to work with auto level adjustments. Thanks and liked.

  • @jazzartphotography
    @jazzartphotography 11 років тому

    FINALLY!!!! The KK2 Explained!!! This was an Awesome Video, I'm looking forward to dialing im my Tricopter with your Esc's on it. Thanks for this Much Needed Video, looking forward to all of your future Vids!!

  • @pmessinger
    @pmessinger 11 років тому

    You must have heard me wondering why nobody had explained the way you just did. Thanks for a much better explanation and demonstration of PID settings. I wish you could explain some things about some of the Multiwii GUI functions now.

  • @snaprollinpitts
    @snaprollinpitts 11 років тому

    Thanks Don, I've never seen anyone explain it that well. thanks mike

  • @Cyberdactyl
    @Cyberdactyl 11 років тому

    Most excellent explanation. Really helped boost my grasp of auto-level.

  • @angelor5339
    @angelor5339 8 років тому

    I never tried the autolevel ,I get a sk450 by turnigym, after this video my quad is really stable, I even fix the rudder unstable problem, great thanks

  • @biddygerm
    @biddygerm 11 років тому

    We all love you man, keep the great educational videos coming.

  • @CaptainsCollection
    @CaptainsCollection 11 років тому

    Fantastic! I am just getting my quad going and when I can formulate a set of questions I will get back to you.
    Equipment as Follows:
    Turnigy Talon 550 frame
    Turnigy 2836 1100KV motors
    KK2.0 FC board w/v1.2
    Qbrain 4X 25 amp ESC
    Orange 6 channel receiver
    LiPo 3S 1300 mah power
    Spektrum DX4e Transmitter
    Great job with the videos.
    Regards,
    Captain David A. Johnson

  • @rotorhead1624
    @rotorhead1624 11 років тому

    Excellent explanation. I always wondered about ACC trim. Thank you for sharing!! Keep up the good work.

  • @hounddog1011
    @hounddog1011 11 років тому

    Thanks for the review/tutorial. That is a very smooth quad you have there. Very cool.

  • @madmartydiver1
    @madmartydiver1 10 років тому

    great video and explanation have just bought an HJ 450 which the seller dumbed down for me so now i will be able to perk it up abit as i get better at flying it. All this Gain stuff was a total mystery to me until i watched your video i have Subscribed to your channel so hope you will keep posting this sort of information GREAT JOB :)

  • @AndyRCchannel
    @AndyRCchannel 9 років тому +1

    best video iv seen on this subject by far cheers

  • @HiFlyer371
    @HiFlyer371 11 років тому

    Nice work and explained so that a newbie can understand.

  • @freeebord
    @freeebord 11 років тому

    I mounted my KK on the F550 frame with vibration insulating foam and velcro, it allows me to have a little 'give' in the vibrations and lets me remove things pretty easy :)

  • @andymccheyne7875
    @andymccheyne7875 11 років тому

    Awesome instructional vid. Thank you. Your kk2 vids have helped me immensely. Cheers bro.

  • @2wheelparts
    @2wheelparts 9 років тому

    Great video man. Quick to the point and perfect amount of info. Sweet background beats too! Thanks man.

  • @didge110
    @didge110 10 років тому

    Thankyou very much good sir, I had to go through and change the settings whilst watching the video and then it all made sense - very well explained.
    cheers Gerald

  • @GeoffroAU
    @GeoffroAU 11 років тому

    Fantastic video, great explanations. I watched hobbykings tutorial and they had the pgain at 100, which gave me the high speed oscillations with the overshoots, would take off well but after 3-4 seconds the wobble kicked in, but thanks to you I actually know what im doing now lol.

  • @seanjuan1973
    @seanjuan1973 11 років тому

    Great video! I had all but given up on the KK2 because that stuff has made no sense. thanks for the GOOD INFO. NOW... work on that brushless gimble! I am VERY interested!!

  • @Cheeseoverdose
    @Cheeseoverdose 10 років тому +7

    Ok great video, but what about the I settings under the P settings

  • @theflyinghamster8442
    @theflyinghamster8442 9 років тому

    Great video, very helpful ! many thanks , keep them coming please!

  • @ron888100
    @ron888100 11 років тому

    to arm the auto level using the stick, hold your throttle at mid level right, and you other stick to bottom left, The Aux setting is for when you want to assign Auto level to a channel switch, so you do not have to use the above method but this requires a separate channel.

  • @Pauldouglas691
    @Pauldouglas691 11 років тому

    Great vid i have a kk2 coming and this really helps.

  • @yugansharora174
    @yugansharora174 6 років тому

    thaxx bro was searching for this from a long time thaxx alot

  • @dhdsracer
    @dhdsracer  11 років тому

    Are you getting vibrations? Have you balanced the props and made sure your tail control is nice and tight? I've had the tails shake so bad it causes flips on Tri's before. I'm generally not a huge fan of them for that reason.

  • @dhdsracer
    @dhdsracer  11 років тому

    that is referring to the PI settings which are separate from the auto level settings. I'm only talking about the AutoLevel Settings in this video.

  • @ChristopherSooTho
    @ChristopherSooTho 11 років тому

    Another great video. Keep up the good work. Would you be doing a video on 'height dampening' settings for the KK2?

  • @ayuminor
    @ayuminor 11 років тому

    Thanks, very helpful and to the point. too bad I already read a 20 page documentary on PI controllers to learn about it,

  • @SwapnilNimbalkar
    @SwapnilNimbalkar 7 років тому +1

    Nice one. Thank you. The car on the left has no license number or any company logo? Confusing......

    • @iGaximus
      @iGaximus 6 років тому

      Some states don't require a front plate

  • @DeniskaNYC
    @DeniskaNYC 11 років тому

    Thank you for you videos.
    Keep up good work.

  • @milgar11
    @milgar11 11 років тому

    Now i know how to compensate for my quad backwards drift.. Thanks!!

  • @hobbyfun96
    @hobbyfun96 10 років тому

    Super helpful video, thanks a lot!

  • @davidbarker1177
    @davidbarker1177 9 років тому

    THANKS BRO FOR A NICE VIDEO ........THINK IT WILL HELP ME A LOT....

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines 11 років тому

    Big help man, thank you very muchI So to conclude, is it safe to say 1) acro P&I settings have no influence on flight with self-leveling on, and 2) "I" setting in acro is attempting to hold attitude established by stick input whereas the implied "I" setting in self-level is always just the same as attitude when armed on the ground.....hence no I setting in self-level menu? My lightbulb moment awaits....

  • @notasixpack
    @notasixpack 11 років тому

    i just solved this for my quad. Not sure if you are using 3.5mm bullet connectors but one of those on my front left motor was bad. NOT the solder.. the bullet itself. It was the male end. If the bullet rotates too easily, replace it. Not sure if this applies to you but hope it helps.

  • @SeanDuffyProductions
    @SeanDuffyProductions 11 років тому

    Great video, which frame are you using on the quad in this video?

  • @copyandpastification
    @copyandpastification 8 років тому

    thank you nice video, really easy to understand

  • @michaelrosen8311
    @michaelrosen8311 8 років тому

    Thank you so much this was so helpful

  • @fjsidebar
    @fjsidebar 9 років тому

    Thank you so much! Very well explained!

  • @cam_3d
    @cam_3d 11 років тому

    Definitely loaded the tricopter model on the KK2?
    How long before it flips?
    Checked all ESCs?
    I built the RC-Explorer tricopter, no balancing on props or motors, basic tail tilt mechanism. Only time it has ever flipped is when I was messing with the auto-level settings,

  • @ThePhilleboy
    @ThePhilleboy 11 років тому

    Very good and informative video!! But I've got one question, do you know if the "normal" PI settings matter if you use self/autolevel on KK2.0?

  • @bobot021070
    @bobot021070 10 років тому

    big thanks man you got it right!!!!! keep posting God Bless

  • @stvygr
    @stvygr 10 років тому

    great video and great explanations, have you ever thought of doing a video explaining how to use PI editor adjustments ?

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab 10 років тому

      P is the primary correctional coefficient. It looks at one moment in time and dials in adjustment of various amplitude based on its "gain" so yes, it can somewhat be considered a sensitivity setting or, how much it's going to correct. Limit is how POWERFUL the P term is, or how much motor power is used to execute the correction (user input has nothing to do with this). A large gain and small limit will make that large gain not very effective. I is a secondary correctional coefficient which looks at current vectors but also takes P into account and makes adjustments over time. The goal of I is to avoid exaggerated adjustments. This can be conceptually thought of as 'when to let go of the gas so as to avoid overshooting your target'; smooths things out. You must tune both P and I to achieve quick, accurate adjustments (typically for acro) because you want P to respond fast and hard but you need I to adjust the correction AFTER it's initially made to avoid the sloppyness of fast and hard. I'm not sure that's all 100% correct, but I just spent a while figuring it out so I hope it helps someone else too.

  • @SirArghPirate
    @SirArghPirate 11 років тому

    Very informative. My problem is that the quad tries to flip over when I'm activating self level. If it's in flight it will promptly tilt and go straight backwards and into ground. If I'm activating selv level while on ground it will try to flip backwards when I'm increasing throttle. Adjusting the trim and P gain/limit doesn't seem to affect this at all. I'm using version 1.5. What can be wrong?

  • @gbillesbach
    @gbillesbach 11 років тому

    Thanks, your kk2 videos are great! Could you do one that shows the history of the f/w. For example, what is the difference between ver 1.5 and 1.6, and explain which menus have changed or been eliminated or added.
    Also.. When making kk2 board videos please include the boot screen that has the version displayed or note in the title of the video, the version f/w the video is about.
    thanks again!

  • @jimbass7867
    @jimbass7867 10 років тому

    Informative and well done...thanks. I hit like!

  • @on7rd
    @on7rd 10 років тому

    nice video......
    Have to look and again.....
    Thanks a lot

  • @HyperJoe
    @HyperJoe 10 років тому

    I've looked all over for this explanation on the KK2 board, so glad you posted this vid, helps a bunch, thanks! I also question as did "Nathan JR" what about the I settings, mine are at "zero" I'm guessing, that's a NULL setting making it inactive?
    Thanks agian for sharing Your knowledge..Awesome Vids! :D

  • @esavage25
    @esavage25 11 років тому

    Hey, I love your vids! Can you tell me what should I do when height is hard to control? Small th inputs make quad speeding up in to the sky or dropping like a stone.
    Thanks!

  • @itsfishi
    @itsfishi 11 років тому

    nice vid thanks quick and to the point cheers

  • @jordanlittle866
    @jordanlittle866 11 років тому

    I noticed you sell preflashed escs on your website.. I will definitely be purchasing 3. I have a question though, I just ordered a kk2 board, if it comes with 1.2 firmware as advertised would you be willing to flash it to 1.5 firmware for money?

  • @SeanDuffyProductions
    @SeanDuffyProductions 11 років тому

    Thanks for the quick reply! I'm guessing you don't ship your parts outside the US?

  • @ron888100
    @ron888100 11 років тому

    yes, at higer voltage, your motors response quicker, which produce the oscillation

  • @SirArghPirate
    @SirArghPirate 11 років тому

    I found of later what was wrong. I was using the 'gear'-channel to turn the autolevel function on/off and it turned out that on my radio this switch was also linked to the 'aileron'-channel (I used this radio with an airplane earlier and the grear-switch to turn flaps on/off). When I corrected it everything worked fine, and still does.

  • @plugtheheliflyer
    @plugtheheliflyer 11 років тому

    Thanks for a easy way of putting it for some.All this board needs now which would be nice if it could be done is GPS.

  • @jerryzito6840
    @jerryzito6840 9 років тому

    Hi..very informative videos. On my tricopter, I will fly away from me, then I will turn nose in toward me, but the copter snaps back 180 degrees away from me. No matter how many time i turn toward me, it snaps back. What do I need to change?

  • @jkflorida
    @jkflorida 11 років тому

    Nice video. My quad always has a rudder trim problem. Do you have any idea why?

  • @Personal-dronesNet
    @Personal-dronesNet 11 років тому +1

    Dhdsracer I have a question. Do you think the gains set in the "normal" PID settings menu (not the auto level menu) will affect at all the craft behavior when in auto level? Or are the normal PID settings only used when in manual mode?

    • @cup_and_cone
      @cup_and_cone 11 років тому

      I have the same question. Did you ever find an answer to this? Hoping someone can anser.
      I've always tuned the self-leveling and regular PI menu's completely independently. I never tried to tune one then switch from self-leveling into acro or vice-versa and see if there was a change.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab 10 років тому +1

      Yes, the regular PI settings DO affect the craft when in auto-level mode albeit not nearly as much as when auto-level is off. Auto-level will just correct on top of what the PI settings are doing so it's continuously taking over...

  • @dhdsracer
    @dhdsracer  11 років тому

    This is a Talon 2 frame with my RCMC motors and ESC's.

  • @MarkLutze
    @MarkLutze 11 років тому

    TheBishonator - a guess on this but since a 4s will weigh more then a 3s it will shift the center of mass and change the flight characteristics of the craft.

  • @Dreamsarefragile
    @Dreamsarefragile 10 років тому

    This is gold thank you !!

  • @mrmurder75
    @mrmurder75 11 років тому

    Jordan, if you are in the UK I will flash it for you if you want. Just cover the postage mate.

  • @ron888100
    @ron888100 11 років тому

    have you calibrated your sensor? lay your quad on a flat and level surface and go in to sensor calibration

  • @TheBishonator
    @TheBishonator 11 років тому

    If i use a different battery does it affect the settings? because I usually use a 3s lipo but when i use my 4s lipo I get this 'high speed oscillation' you described in the video? HELP !!!!

  • @tonyjweller3187
    @tonyjweller3187 10 років тому

    Helped loads, thanks.

  • @llommel1
    @llommel1 11 років тому

    very good video, nice explanation

  • @knlg
    @knlg 8 років тому

    hey bro....i would love if you post a step by step video for setting up p and i values within effect on quad stability.

  • @aksdiyprojects1999
    @aksdiyprojects1999 2 роки тому

    Very good and much informative session!!!loved it!!keep going
    I ve a hk x525 frame, 30 a generic escs, kk2.1.5 FC, batt 4000 amh 3s!!can you pls saggest best appropriate motors for the same?
    Thanks in adv

  • @vfrvtec
    @vfrvtec 11 років тому

    Just got my kk2 for my hexacopter im building.Whats the best way to mount it to my 550 frame ie, hard mounted or double sided foam.
    Any input would be great thanks.

  • @gyro59
    @gyro59 11 років тому

    Thankyou.
    Nice and easy
    cheers Bud....

  • @mrmurder75
    @mrmurder75 11 років тому

    I have had to dial my p gain down to 9 to stop the it shaking while setting up the auto level, giving me virtually no stick control, even with the I gain way up high. Evidently my issue lies elsewhere, but I don't know where. Any suggestions as to what I should do? thanks

  • @ron888100
    @ron888100 11 років тому

    When in Acrobat mode, when you tilt forward, and let go of your stick, it continues to go forward, in Auto level mode, it reverts back to flat, or at least to your calibrated position

  • @dhdsracer
    @dhdsracer  11 років тому

    Yeah, it's tough to say but you could have bad vibrations affecting everything. Your P is too low and too much I can kill your control too. Just set the PI to stock settings and only decrease the AL P gain down. You won't have a snappy autolevel but it shouldn't shake. Flashed ESC's will help a lot too.

  • @MyJazz66
    @MyJazz66 9 років тому

    Great vid now to put it in to practice

  • @sunbird327
    @sunbird327 11 років тому

    Can you do a video explaining the p and I gain and limit for when you're not in auto level? I have a hard time flying without auto level, my quad feels very fast and I can't fly it... Maybe I'm just not good enough yet? Thanks

  • @rcflightseeker3488
    @rcflightseeker3488 10 років тому

    Let's say I have a separate battery supply for my KK 2 board, and I plan to use it on my plane not quadcopter. If the battery supply to the KK board dies out, will my receiver still power my servos? Or would I lose all control except throttle?

    • @johnrobertson7583
      @johnrobertson7583 9 років тому

      You would have to make sure you lift either the signal wire and pin from your cables, or the + and - pins from any of the cables coming from the rx to the fcm, and insulate them with spare pin shrouds, and only leave the signal wires if you want to totally have separate power. If you dont, your power sources will be mixed since the power pins at the M1 set are common to ALL the input pins of the KK. Your receiver never powers your servos, except maybe the M1, if you are supplying it Rx-FCM-Thr. Now if youre running some 5 or 6 heavier duty servos, your BEC in your ESC cant handle that load. For that you need a power source going to the M2-M8 pins of the KK, those are a separate bus from the M1. So bottom line: the rx and kk CAN be powered together, and a separate battery for anything controlled off the M2-M8 pins.

  • @cardsmen6387
    @cardsmen6387 7 років тому

    i made a quadcopter myself using the same kk board but i am not getting stable flight
    no lift off
    what could be the problem?

  • @HuwFerris-John
    @HuwFerris-John 8 років тому

    you made this so much simpler could you go through the pi settings for acro mode in a video please?

  • @biswajitbanik894
    @biswajitbanik894 7 років тому

    thank u.... it is very helpful for me =)

  • @aymanfatani
    @aymanfatani 10 років тому +1

    Hey there dhdsracer, I have a problem with my quad it keeps turning around itself slowly when hovering on the air, any idea ? thanks

    • @dhdsracer
      @dhdsracer  10 років тому

      Make sure all your motors are leveled first. After that it i is ok to trim your yaw at the TX.

  • @dronauticaltech-fun3485
    @dronauticaltech-fun3485 5 років тому

    Brother I really like your video and it helps me a lot. Please explain stick scaling settings on KK FLIGHT CONTROLLER. Please brother make a video.

  • @darkrose3344
    @darkrose3344 6 років тому

    Hello, i am having problem in test flight. When i turned on it rotates randomly . Could u tell me about pi settings that i could change. It is difficult to control landing, either it goes too high or crash.

  • @smartwork5988
    @smartwork5988 6 років тому +1

    Very nice information ✌️